BREDAN CARR FCC - FCC NOT AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY? VS. DESCRIPTION ON THEIR ON WEBSITE // Identifying AI vs real generated news // Keeping AI at a distance to keep companies from imploding // Niceties and Happy Holidays
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chris Merrill I AM sixty where the talk is
more stimulating. Indeed it is, indeed, uh rooney. Although if
it gets too stimulating, we might get clamped down. Yeah,
totally possible. I mean, like what happened with Jimmy Kimmel.
You know that he said some things they were factually suspect,
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and all of a sudden he gets pulled. And then
the FCC commissioner weighs in and says, yeah, good, and
we gotta we can do this the easy way. We
can do this the hard way. Oh and then Kimmel
went and signed a new contract. So evidently the hard way.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is not. Actually anything doesn't seem to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So there were members of the FCC who were in
a Senate hearing today, right, and so they're sitting there
and Brendan Carr is getting questions from Ben ray Lewan.
I think that is how you say his name. He's
a Democrat from New Mexico, and I think you can
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suspect that he was he was going to try to
put him on his put to put car on his heel.
Excuse me, So you've got the Democratic senator that is
pressing Brendan Carr, who has been very clear about being
a Trump loyalist. And you knew that the Democrat was
going to try to press and put him on his heels.
This is what these Senate hearings are. It's all dog
and pony show, all of them. This is how they work.
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It allows the senators to go on record and say
something and then they try to do like a get
you moment kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But it looked wants pay attention to it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But there was something that came out that I thought
was really fascinating, and that when Lewan was talking with him,
he asked him a question that seemed like it should
have been pretty simple to answer, but then it turned
into a real strange point of contention.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
This is the audio from c SPAN.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Have a listen you centered to Luhan.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Thank you, mister chairman, Chairman Carr. Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And please? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Is the SEC an Independent Agency?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
All right? Was that loud enough? Did you hear it? Okay? Push?
Did that come through? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I can hear it audio on that was a
little quiet, all right, so we could hear it a
little rough, a little rough.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, plugs. Get here.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He said yes or no is the is the sec
and independent agency? And this is this is where things
got weird fast.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Senator, thanks for that question.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think yes or no is all he needs or
yesterd know is it independent? Now in this case, Luhan
is trying to just get the yes or no because
he's got five minutes. That's it, right, Senators only have
five minutes. So it's just I just need to just
say yes or no and then I'm gonna move on.
And so you know what he's doing. He's trying to
lay out a case so that he can get it
get him later in a gotcha. Okay, but then all
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of a sudden this gets muddy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, there's a test for this in the law. In
the key portion of that yes, yes or no, Brendan
the portion that test. Okay, I'm going to go to
Commissioner trustee.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
So just so you know, Brendan, on your website, it
just simply says, man, the FCC is independent.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
This isn't a trick question. Okay, yes, is not?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Is not?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So? Is your website wrong? Is your website lying?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So Brendan car says, the FCC is not an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
What I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I thought there were certain agencies we just assumed were
or we've been told, and in their case it's actually
described on their own website that way an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's kind of like the Federal Reserve Board.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Isn't that supposed to be an independent agency so that
it doesn't have to cater to the whims of what
you ever politician and the party is in charge at
the time, is not the whole idea behind an independent
agency is to be.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Away from all the politics.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Possibly the SEC is not an independent agency.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, can I read this to you the FCC's mission
on the home page of the FCC man an independent
US government agency overseen by Congress.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Is that factual?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Or is that a lie?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Is not?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Formally is independent? Is this true or is.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
This a lie?
Speaker 7 (04:09):
I'm not an ansure question.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, get the president Chairman. I have a little bit
of a time. I'll get back to.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, he is not an independent agency formally speaking.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Appreciate you saying that and being honest with the American people.
Commissioner trustee.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So he goes down to the other commissioner, the one
sitting next to him, Senator, thank you for the question.
The president is the chief of chief executive bested with
all executive power in our government, and FCC commissioners are not.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We do not have four cause removal protections, which means
that we aren't independent.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So is this is your website line?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I can't speak to the website.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I've not seen that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You all are the commissioners in charge of this place, right,
so this stuff has to be approved by one of you.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If this is lying, then you should just fix it.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Let me just say that that wasn't even my gotcha question,
and I'm surprised it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That wasn't even my god your question.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was getting to my gotcha question, but you guys,
you guys just went ahead and got your.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I've burned up three minutes talking about this damn thing.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
Commissioner Gomes goes down to the third commission who's on
the dais.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, and we should be. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Well, mister chairman, if I could just admit the print
out of the homepage of the FCC into the record, man,
it says it's an independent agency, and if it's not true,
then change.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It without objection. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He didn't even want to go down the path.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He wasn't even trying to get them to say that
it is an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And then that wasn't the avenue that he was taking.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He could have he could have said, you're an independent agency,
and why are you doing the bidding of the president.
That's what I would have expected a democratic senator to do. Instead,
he was going to take a different gotcha question. He
was only laying the groundwork, and the whole independence thing
was likely to be more along the lines of why
aren't you acting independent? Since you're independent wires you acting
that way. Instead, it just turned into I guess your
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website's wrong. It actually flumixed the senator. The senator goes
he didn't even he didn't even make accusations like how
do you not know this? Why do you think that
you are blah blah blah. Basically, he just said, Okay,
I guess your website's wrong then and just fix your website.
But it does reveal the mindset of the FCC commissioners,
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and it's it's a little bit concerning because if the
FCC is perceived as a as a political arm of
the White House, what does that mean for our future
regulatory decisions, and what does that mean about decisions that
are made and then challenged in the courts, because all
of a sudden, we're gonna start taking a look at
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some of these things, and we're gonna start questioning legitimacy
if the FCC is not an independent agency, and perhaps
the solution here in Congress should get on this is
to offer four cause protections. As you heard a commissioner trustee,
the FCC commissioner say, we don't have those partet as
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that other independent agencies have. In other words, the president
can can canis at will, doesn't have to have a reason.
Maybe what needs to happen is Congress needs to go
through these agencies that we've always thought to be independent
and offer them some more protections so that they don't
have to operate if they're concerned with whomever the next
president is.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Right, maybe that's the solution. But in the meantime, if.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
If suddenly we're wondering, for instance, does the Netflix and
Warner Brothers deal get get approved, well, it all depends
on what promises were made to the president. That's not
an open and free market, and if we believe in
free market capitalism, with of course understandable regulations, but certainly
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not capitalism that is based on the whims of the
ruling party. That kind of strikes at the core of
the freedoms and rights of our nation, does it not.
I mean, what good is freedom of speech if that
freedom of speech is being policed by an agency that
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acts at the behest of an executive And I want
you to consider this is where it gets dangerous. I
want you to consider this because these are the sorts
of accusations that used to come down around Biden in
Obama from the right. Of course, there were fingers that
were pointing from the right and they would say, you know,
this is all being done because this is Obama's enforcement arm,
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and he's trying to manipulate the media and blah blah blah,
all this kind of stuff. Right, So imagine if the
FCC chair during the Obama year said I'm doing I'm
doing what I think the President wants me to do
so that I can keep my job because I'm not
an independent thinker, I'm merely an arm of the executive branch.
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What would the mindset have been then, And more importantly,
what is the mindset going to be if you've got
a president AOC or a President Bernie Sanders, or a
President Gavin Newsom or a President Raoul Raholva. Then what
if the agencies aren't independent? What happens when it's not
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your party in charge? And the Democrats are fighting this
right now, and I think that Republicans would be naive
to assume that it's it's not going to be tit
for tat the next time that the White House changes hands.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just consider that when you watch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
All this drama playing out, is that the drama today
is the groundwork for the drama tomorrow. Now, you too
just pulled the plug on two huge channels, and the
reason is they're creating content to trick their fans, and
maybe their fans want to be lied to. Meanwhile, Hollywood
creators are organizing like they've got an open war to
save their jobs and it's starting to look like we
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can have another strike on the horizon. Is Tintaltown going
to survive another work stoppage?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That is next?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thank you so much for being a part of the program.
I was just talking about the FCC chair. He was
squaring off against the senator, and the senator said, are
you an independent agency?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And he says, well, you know, and he goes, wait, your.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Website says you're an independent agency. And are you saying
the website is wrong? What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
From the talkbacks, Hey guys, a great show tonight, loll
about a senator referencing the Internet to find out that
he's wrong about the FCC being an independent you know,
I mean really, Oh, man, I can't trust the Internet.
I feel old. I feel old. I'm sorry. I just
thought i'd coment on that great show Fellas stuck out
here on this two ten truck fire.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Sorry, buddy, Yeah, no, I get your point, but it
is the official government website that lays out it's not
just I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh, you can't believe everything you're read on the internet.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, but also it is an official website from a
US official government agency, so it is kind of considered legitimate,
or I guess it should have been just not yes,
not speaking of legitimate. Evidently, there are a couple of
massive YouTube channels that just got pulled because they were
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too popular. They were making a bunch of well slop
and studios didn't like it. No, Ironically, the story you're
about to hear is coming from an AI who also
has some sort of self awareness.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
YouTube just did something insane.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Two massive channels with over a billion views, famous for
their AI generated fake movie trailers, just got completely banned
from YouTube. Gone poof. This isn't just a slap on
the wrist. This is YouTube drawing a line in the sand.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh God, let me tell you A telltale sign of
AI writing is when you hear this isn't just blah,
it's blah, or it's not X, it's y.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
When you hear that, you're gonna go that's AI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And if you write that way, you need to change
how you write because people assume that you're AI.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
This isn't just a slap on the wrist. This is
YouTube drawing a line in the sand. What I find
incredibly interesting is this isn't just about misleading.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
See, this isn't just about because this.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Isn't just about misleading content.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
It's about the rise of AI's power to create that
misleading content.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So that just in ten seconds, it did it twice.
This isn't just X.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
It's why this could be a preview of how big
platforms will tackle AI generated fakes across the board. Does
this mean a crackdown on all AI made content that
isn't clearly labeled?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I hope.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
So the future of creative AI on these platforms just
got a lot more complicated. And you might be thinking
this is quite ironic, considering I'm an AI avatar. But
I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in an
efficient way. Smash that like button comment.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But I'm not see three times in the forty five seconds,
it's not just X, it's why, right.
Speaker 9 (12:59):
But I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in
an efficient way. Smash that like button, comment your thoughts
and subscribe for more mind blowing tech news.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Did you smash that subscribe button?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I like the emphasis on button smash that like smash.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
That smash that like button.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Button burn all of it, all of it. Don't you
love though that people are rejecting this on mass? I mean,
people finally seem to have reached their limit on this
and they know they're being sold a bunch of horse
pucky and they're just saying no, flat out, yes, creator
more nuanced than that, but yes, So first of all, well,
let me credit that that's VFMT tech and AI that
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that created the story.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I want to make sure I credit the machine, of course,
whatever I would say.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, there are people like my son, for instance, who
is a high YouTube consumer, and he says anything that
comes on that is AI he immediately just he doesn't
even if it's something he's interested in, he just moves
off of it. I can't tell you how much of
the information that I find when I'm looking for news clips,
actuality stories, whatever it is for the show, it is
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all AI generated. I mean, unless I am getting it
straight from ABC seven or Fox eleven or a.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
News nation or something, which are some sources I use
if I go.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
For instance, we had a story tonight about gen X
being overlooked by retailers at the holiday season. If I
were to say gen X overlooked by holiday retailers, most
everything that comes up would be some sort of an
AI generated story, AI voiced AI generated from It's cheap
and they can just put this slop out and it
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costs them just about nothing. The problem is it's garbage. Sadly,
I'm starting to see this pop up elsewhere. So while
many of us are rejecting this mark to your point, Yeah,
flat out rejecting it. Going No, I can see through it,
and don't don't give me this slop. Pre rolls on
YouTube videos right now seem like they're almost all AI generated.
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And I actually saw some of those videos in my
studio from my day job. I've got monitors up with
all the different twenty four hour news channels on it,
and News Nation occupies one of those monitors, and it
was running commercials and it was the same AI generated
commercials that I had seen on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I went, I know that commercial it's AI.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So as much as yes, some people are rejecting it,
advertisers aren't, and and the networks that run those commercials
aren't rejecting it. That's a big concern to me. That's
a big worry of mine because that means that they're
willing to compromise the authenticity of their own network. Well,
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you could never call me an out of control optimist,
but the fact that people react like you're handing them
a turd when they see anything at all that's AI,
they really viscerally dislike it, that's hopeful to me. So
those two channels got scrapped taken off of YouTube and
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banned permanently, I guess is what they're saying. Because because
they were creating fake movie trailers for real ips, and
so imagine that they come out with a fake Fantastic
four trailer. Oh they have Yeah, yeah, they did, right,
and that was one of them that got them in trouble.
Imagine if you are if you are the who owns
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who owns that?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Is that the what Marvel? Is it? Marvel? That is
fantastic way it is?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, So imagine if you're Disney and that stuff pops
up there, you go, No, that's our IP, So no,
you can't do that. That's a copyright infringement. And they're like, ah,
but people really love our fake trailers. Okay, well you
can't start using IP without permission. So your host so
kind of glad to see that, Glad to see YouTube
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taking a stand. However, we have a number of other
creators that are saying that's not enough. It's got to
go further. What Hollywood is doing right now and how
this could play bigle into the coming contract negotiations so
we can try to avoid another shutdown.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
As next you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
We were just discussing the AI.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That the AI takeover in Hollywood and how so many
people are creating slop using AI. Got a couple of
big YouTube channels just permanently banned, and now you've got
a number of creators that are very concerned, and justifiably so.
It's not even the slop necessarily. Slop is terrible, But
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it's not even the slop necessarily that really sets them off.
It's the idea that that slop could replace genuine.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Creatives, and I feel it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Look, I'm in an industry that at some point somebody
may come along and say, why don't we just create
our own AI. We'll just create an avatar talk show host.
We already know that there's radio stations that have used
AI DJ's on the music side before, which I think
is a bit abhorrent, but somebody thought it was fun
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and cutting edge. I find it to be a threat
to everything I have. I have no other employable job skills.
Imagine somebody walks into wherever it is you work and
you go, oh, what's your work history, and they go, oh,
I've done radio. You're gonna be like, oh cool next.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I have no plan.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm just hoping that things hang on and I don't
get replaced by AI in the next twenty years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I got no plan. I got no plan. Nobody's gonna
hire me.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nobody's gonna say, Oh, I bet that I bet that
guy's public speaking skills really translate. Well, you know, I
bet that guy is a very affable individual. I think
I'd like them to represent my company and do speaking
engagements or tours. No, no, no, fully capable of doing
all those things.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Is anybody going to see that?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, So I'm screwed. If AI comes through, I'm screwed.
Which is why I'm pretty happy to see that. We've
got Hollywood insiders launching this Creator's Coalition on AI and
eighteen top entertainment professionals, including directors, actors, and producers, launching
This Creator's Coalition on AI to establish shared standards for
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ethical AI use in creative work.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
That from Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
The group says that they want transparent. Actually they've got
four pillars, all right, here's your four pillars, Okay, Transparency,
consent and compensation for content and data. That makes perfect
sense to me, job protection, and transition plans. And this
is going to be a big one, as you're gonna
have studios that are going to be looking at the
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next sag After deal or the next Director's Guild deal,
or the next Writer's Guild deal, and they're gonna say, ooh, yeah,
we're not gonna protect your job because we could replace you.
We are at the point. Remember in the old days,
I'm old enough to remember these days when when you
might have a group, a union might go on strike,
and then the employer would threaten that union and say,
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I will replace you. I'll bring in scab labor. I'll
have the scabs do your jobs. You're easily replaced, right,
And then the scabs are going and they would work
for less than what the union was demanding.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But you know what, the scabs still got a paycheck.
The scabs got a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The unions despise them because they were undercutting the effort
to have collective bargaining, but the scabs, the very least
got a paycheck. Now you've got employers that are saying
I'll replace you. I don't even have to pay somebody else,
I'll replace you with the computer. To Mark's point, though,
in the last segment, people are responding, especially to any
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sort of creative AI in a man that is reminiscent
of being handed a giant pile steaming turns. Oh good,
you want me to watch this new trailer. It's not
real and it's obviously not real. Oh you want me
to do this? No, that's not fun. That's a computer
telling me things. The novelty is wearing off on it
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very quickly when it comes to the creative of AI,
and I see this, I'm hoping that we get a
bit of homeostasis on this right In the same way
that as as computers and desktops became ubiquitous in offices
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around the country, that obviously replaced a lot of mail rooms,
for instance, it replaced file cabinets. It replaced some assistants
or secretaries or or whomever it might be that was
doing some of the some of the let's call it gruntwork,
going and finding information and piecing together and creating a
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ledgers where all of a sudden, now it's on it's
on a program. It's not a quick books, it's on
a spreadsheet. It's all there. So it did change things,
and it did allow those other jobs to evolve, and
rather than necessarily replacing some people. Although it did wipe
out the mail rooms, but rather than replacing people, what
it did was it made the people that were doing
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it more productive. If companies think that AI is simply
a plug and play replacement for genuine creatives, they're gonna
get burned. At least that's what I'd like to believe.
If they look at AI as an opportunity to enhance
what they have, I think that could be very beneficial.
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And this is what you're going to see the union
start fighting for. So they want transparency, consent and compensation
for any content and data that AI is used to
train with.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
They want job protection and transition plans so that when
we do have some jobs that evolve, that there are
plans for those people. Those individuals, Hey, here's your upskilling.
We're going to replace this position. But as a result,
we're gonna send you, We're gonna give you education credits
for upskilling somewhere else. They went guardrails against misuse and
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deep fakes. That's massive, and they also want to safeguard
humanity in the creative process. And this goes back to
what Mark was talking about when he said that if
it's AI created slop, people recognize it very quickly. We've
always said in our business that you have to be
authentic because the audience will know if you're not authentic.
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I think some audiences depending on what it is, because
there are plenty of grifters out there, and some audiences go,
I know it's not authentic, but I like it. It's in
my wheelhouse. It's it's fine, okay, but at least you know,
going in right like, you can suss that out. We're
pretty good as humans at picking out when somebody's being real,
when they're not, and when it's ai.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Pretty good at figuring out that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You're an avatar and nobody talks that way and that's garbage.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Space rocks they behave like rocks. Right, So, now you've
got a space rock. It's wobbling and it's pointing the
wrong way. That is not how space rocks are supposed
to behave. Astronomers noticed something very strange before this object
even got close to the sun. We are at the
precipice perhaps of contact. What the wobble is telling us
is net.
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Speaker 3 (24:40):
George, what do we have to look forward to this evening?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
First, first couple hours, we're going to talk about how
artificial intelligence could change our lives. Then later on a
little angel intervention from a former radio talk show it's
not coast to coast.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh boy, how about that that radio talk show host.
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All right, pass along our best George, thank you so much,
my friend, very good. All right, a great legs guy,
myself and uh, Mark, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Do you recognize this sound?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It sounds like possibly ice in a glass, one of
the shorter glasses which are meant to contain Let's see,
what's the word.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm looking for?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
A cocktail. I believe that's a low ball. We call
that glass? Okay, low ball? And what's in it? Gentleman
Jack Daniels, my friend, I see indeed, indeed, Well it's
a good thing. I'm not prone to jealousy, and it's
a good thing. You're such a complete prop.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
This is the time of the show where I always
pass along my niceties because I genuinely love these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I absolutely do. Foosh, let me.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Just say, you're Theo's sexiest. I love you, I love you,
I love you, I love.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You, I love you, and I'm your biggest fear. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fun fact, that was me. You really are Phil Hendry. Yeah, Now,
I love you. I love you, I love you, I
love you, I love you.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You're You're. I'm a huge fan of you too.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So once, I have a great, great holiday here, my friend,
because I think I'm back on Sunday, and I think
Sunday is uh. It depends on how the football schedule
plays out for the following Sunday, but I think that
might be my last last show of the year. And then, uh,
I gotta say, I gotta say things to Matt. I
realized I got off the air yesterday. Matt's been producing
(26:41):
remotely and today he did a great job costant communication
with me. We had some we had some balls in
the air as the press conference was happening with that
that Brown and Mit shooter, and he did just a
great job while at the same time giving me whilst yeah,
whilst giving me a consistent and timely scoring updates on
the Seahawks Rams game because we weren't talking about it,
(27:03):
but by god, he knew we needed to know. So
you did a great job. So Matt producing remotely and
I felt bad. We got we got off the air
stor we got to say thank you and mark complete
pro love you, buddy. I'll be if I win, if
I win power Ball, I'm not giving you half.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'm moving in with you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, I will take care of you though, okay, because
that's I'll think you more generous than I expected. We
will look for some uh, we'll look for some opportunities.
We'll try to make your dreams come true. Well that
sounds right vague and noncommittal, So thank you. That's exactly
how I am too. I mean, you should have seen
my wedding nuptials. I was like, I promise to love, ish,
(27:41):
honor ish, cherish, ish you as long as.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
There is life. Ish.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
That was it, magically, it was it was special, very special. Well,
I can see how your wife is so attached. Yeah, yeah,
illegally attached to that three I at Liss. You know
that that comment, that interstellar comment. So tomorrow was the
day that it's the closest. I believe I think it's
tomorrow morning. When when when it's the closest to Earth.
(28:11):
And this is the one where that that Harvard professor
was saying that it could be aliens. Avi lob was
his name who said it could be aliens? Uh report
from B. C. Begley about the three I and this
Avi Lobe just wrote an article that he published on
medium where he basically undermines his whole.
Speaker 10 (28:33):
Argument the interstellar object three I at liss oh crap?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Is this another AI? So I think it's an AI? Voiceover?
Speaker 10 (28:41):
These are terrible, once speculated by some, including Harvard astrophysicist
Avi Lobe.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Actually this is so bad. It sounds like a real
person trying to do a voiceover.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
To be an alien technology or an alien spacecraft has
now been shown to behave like a typical comment. A
new study and research notes of the AAS finds that
its unusual motion is caused by natural quote outgassing.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I got some natural motion from that too.
Speaker 10 (29:09):
Where gas and dust expelled from its surface give it
small rocket like pushes, altering its speed, orbit and spin
measurements using NASA's Psychic Spacecraft and esay's Mars trace gas
orbiter indicate its acceleration, mass, and size are all comparable
to small solar system comments.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So basically, it is behaving in a way that we
didn't expect, but it's not exactly abnormal.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It can be explained through physics.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So the whole The Harvard professor who said this might
be aliens has now put out charts, shown the math.
He showed all of his work and said, hey, we
figured out why the tail leads it, why it doesn't
have a normal tail like we see in a comet,
and it showed what he called regular wobble. So they
(30:01):
just described it as the gas was escaping and that
gas was creating small wobbles. That wobbling was making the
stuff act in ways that we hadn't seen before. But
it's not unexplainable. And once again, while we couldn't explain
something and we said might be aliens, later on science
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ends up explaining that very.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Thing Outgassing is a good word of the week, though.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I love that one. Actually, let's let's put that down.
You know, it's too bad. Merriam Webster already made their
decision in the year. Well there's always next year, And
so the comments, behaving as if it stopped at Taco
Bell on the way home from working.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's outcasting, outca outgassing. That's exactly what you know.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Thank you. What's it take around here? Couldn't I couldn't
find it? All right, I love you guys. Have a
very Meryl Christmas. If I don't talk to you again,
I'm back on Sunday. And yeah, that's all I got.
George Nourry's next Chris Meryl. I Am six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio
Speaker 1 (30:57):
App, KFI demand
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Chris Merrill I AM sixty where the talk is
more stimulating. Indeed it is, indeed, uh rooney. Although if
it gets too stimulating, we might get clamped down. Yeah,
totally possible. I mean, like what happened with Jimmy Kimmel.
You know that he said some things they were factually suspect,
(00:29):
and all of a sudden he gets pulled. And then
the FCC commissioner weighs in and says, yeah, good, and
we gotta we can do this the easy way. We
can do this the hard way. Oh and then Kimmel
went and signed a new contract. So evidently the hard way.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is not. Actually anything doesn't seem to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So there were members of the FCC who were in
a Senate hearing today, right, and so they're sitting there
and Brendan Carr is getting questions from Ben ray Lewan.
I think that is how you say his name. He's
a Democrat from New Mexico, and I think you can
(01:16):
suspect that he was he was going to try to
put him on his put to put car on his heel.
Excuse me, So you've got the Democratic senator that is
pressing Brendan Carr, who has been very clear about being
a Trump loyalist. And you knew that the Democrat was
going to try to press and put him on his heels.
This is what these Senate hearings are. It's all dog
and pony show, all of them. This is how they work.
(01:38):
It allows the senators to go on record and say
something and then they try to do like a get
you moment kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But it looked wants pay attention to it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But there was something that came out that I thought
was really fascinating, and that when Lewan was talking with him,
he asked him a question that seemed like it should
have been pretty simple to answer, but then it turned
into a real strange point of contention.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
This is the audio from c SPAN.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Have a listen you centered to Luhan.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Thank you, mister chairman, Chairman Carr. Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And please? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Is the SEC an Independent Agency?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
All right? Was that loud enough? Did you hear it? Okay? Push?
Did that come through? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I can hear it audio on that was a
little quiet, all right, so we could hear it a
little rough, a little rough.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, plugs. Get here.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He said yes or no is the is the sec
and independent agency? And this is this is where things
got weird fast.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Senator, thanks for that question.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think yes or no is all he needs or
yesterd know is it independent? Now in this case, Luhan
is trying to just get the yes or no because
he's got five minutes. That's it, right, Senators only have
five minutes. So it's just I just need to just
say yes or no and then I'm gonna move on.
And so you know what he's doing. He's trying to
lay out a case so that he can get it
get him later in a gotcha. Okay, but then all
(02:52):
of a sudden this gets muddy.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, there's a test for this in the law. In
the key portion of that yes, yes or no, Brendan
the portion that test. Okay, I'm going to go to
Commissioner trustee.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
So just so you know, Brendan, on your website, it
just simply says, man, the FCC is independent.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
This isn't a trick question. Okay, yes, is not?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Is not?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So? Is your website wrong? Is your website lying?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So Brendan car says, the FCC is not an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
What I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I thought there were certain agencies we just assumed were
or we've been told, and in their case it's actually
described on their own website that way an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's kind of like the Federal Reserve Board.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Isn't that supposed to be an independent agency so that
it doesn't have to cater to the whims of what
you ever politician and the party is in charge at
the time, is not the whole idea behind an independent
agency is to be.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Away from all the politics.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Possibly the SEC is not an independent agency.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, can I read this to you the FCC's mission
on the home page of the FCC man an independent
US government agency overseen by Congress.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Is that factual?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Or is that a lie?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Is not?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Formally is independent? Is this true or is.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
This a lie?
Speaker 7 (04:09):
I'm not an ansure question.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, get the president Chairman. I have a little bit
of a time. I'll get back to.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, he is not an independent agency formally speaking.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Appreciate you saying that and being honest with the American people.
Commissioner trustee.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So he goes down to the other commissioner, the one
sitting next to him, Senator, thank you for the question.
The president is the chief of chief executive bested with
all executive power in our government, and FCC commissioners are not.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We do not have four cause removal protections, which means
that we aren't independent.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So is this is your website line?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I can't speak to the website.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I've not seen that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You all are the commissioners in charge of this place, right,
so this stuff has to be approved by one of you.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If this is lying, then you should just fix it.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Let me just say that that wasn't even my gotcha question,
and I'm surprised it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That wasn't even my god your question.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was getting to my gotcha question, but you guys,
you guys just went ahead and got your.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I've burned up three minutes talking about this damn thing.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
Commissioner Gomes goes down to the third commission who's on
the dais.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, and we should be. I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Well, mister chairman, if I could just admit the print
out of the homepage of the FCC into the record, man,
it says it's an independent agency, and if it's not true,
then change.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It without objection. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He didn't even want to go down the path.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He wasn't even trying to get them to say that
it is an independent agency.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And then that wasn't the avenue that he was taking.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He could have he could have said, you're an independent agency,
and why are you doing the bidding of the president.
That's what I would have expected a democratic senator to do. Instead,
he was going to take a different gotcha question. He
was only laying the groundwork, and the whole independence thing
was likely to be more along the lines of why
aren't you acting independent? Since you're independent wires you acting
that way. Instead, it just turned into I guess your
(05:56):
website's wrong. It actually flumixed the senator. The senator goes
he didn't even he didn't even make accusations like how
do you not know this? Why do you think that
you are blah blah blah. Basically, he just said, Okay,
I guess your website's wrong then and just fix your website.
But it does reveal the mindset of the FCC commissioners,
(06:19):
and it's it's a little bit concerning because if the
FCC is perceived as a as a political arm of
the White House, what does that mean for our future
regulatory decisions, and what does that mean about decisions that
are made and then challenged in the courts, because all
of a sudden, we're gonna start taking a look at
(06:40):
some of these things, and we're gonna start questioning legitimacy
if the FCC is not an independent agency, and perhaps
the solution here in Congress should get on this is
to offer four cause protections. As you heard a commissioner trustee,
the FCC commissioner say, we don't have those partet as
(07:00):
that other independent agencies have. In other words, the president
can can canis at will, doesn't have to have a reason.
Maybe what needs to happen is Congress needs to go
through these agencies that we've always thought to be independent
and offer them some more protections so that they don't
have to operate if they're concerned with whomever the next
president is.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Right, maybe that's the solution. But in the meantime, if.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
If suddenly we're wondering, for instance, does the Netflix and
Warner Brothers deal get get approved, well, it all depends
on what promises were made to the president. That's not
an open and free market, and if we believe in
free market capitalism, with of course understandable regulations, but certainly
(07:49):
not capitalism that is based on the whims of the
ruling party. That kind of strikes at the core of
the freedoms and rights of our nation, does it not.
I mean, what good is freedom of speech if that
freedom of speech is being policed by an agency that
(08:09):
acts at the behest of an executive And I want
you to consider this is where it gets dangerous. I
want you to consider this because these are the sorts
of accusations that used to come down around Biden in
Obama from the right. Of course, there were fingers that
were pointing from the right and they would say, you know,
this is all being done because this is Obama's enforcement arm,
(08:29):
and he's trying to manipulate the media and blah blah blah,
all this kind of stuff. Right, So imagine if the
FCC chair during the Obama year said I'm doing I'm
doing what I think the President wants me to do
so that I can keep my job because I'm not
an independent thinker, I'm merely an arm of the executive branch.
(08:50):
What would the mindset have been then, And more importantly,
what is the mindset going to be if you've got
a president AOC or a President Bernie Sanders, or a
President Gavin Newsom or a President Raoul Raholva. Then what
if the agencies aren't independent? What happens when it's not
(09:12):
your party in charge? And the Democrats are fighting this
right now, and I think that Republicans would be naive
to assume that it's it's not going to be tit
for tat the next time that the White House changes hands.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just consider that when you watch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
All this drama playing out, is that the drama today
is the groundwork for the drama tomorrow. Now, you too
just pulled the plug on two huge channels, and the
reason is they're creating content to trick their fans, and
maybe their fans want to be lied to. Meanwhile, Hollywood
creators are organizing like they've got an open war to
save their jobs and it's starting to look like we
(09:49):
can have another strike on the horizon. Is Tintaltown going
to survive another work stoppage?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That is next?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thank you so much for being a part of the program.
I was just talking about the FCC chair. He was
squaring off against the senator, and the senator said, are
you an independent agency?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And he says, well, you know, and he goes, wait, your.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Website says you're an independent agency. And are you saying
the website is wrong? What's happening there?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
From the talkbacks, Hey guys, a great show tonight, loll
about a senator referencing the Internet to find out that
he's wrong about the FCC being an independent you know,
I mean really, Oh, man, I can't trust the Internet.
I feel old. I feel old. I'm sorry. I just
thought i'd coment on that great show Fellas stuck out
here on this two ten truck fire.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Sorry, buddy, Yeah, no, I get your point, but it
is the official government website that lays out it's not
just I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh, you can't believe everything you're read on the internet.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, but also it is an official website from a
US official government agency, so it is kind of considered legitimate,
or I guess it should have been just not yes,
not speaking of legitimate. Evidently, there are a couple of
massive YouTube channels that just got pulled because they were
(11:16):
too popular. They were making a bunch of well slop
and studios didn't like it. No, Ironically, the story you're
about to hear is coming from an AI who also
has some sort of self awareness.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
YouTube just did something insane.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Two massive channels with over a billion views, famous for
their AI generated fake movie trailers, just got completely banned
from YouTube. Gone poof. This isn't just a slap on
the wrist. This is YouTube drawing a line in the sand.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Oh God, let me tell you A telltale sign of
AI writing is when you hear this isn't just blah,
it's blah, or it's not X, it's y.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
When you hear that, you're gonna go that's AI.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And if you write that way, you need to change
how you write because people assume that you're AI.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
This isn't just a slap on the wrist. This is
YouTube drawing a line in the sand. What I find
incredibly interesting is this isn't just about misleading.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
See, this isn't just about because this.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Isn't just about misleading content.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
It's about the rise of AI's power to create that
misleading content.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So that just in ten seconds, it did it twice.
This isn't just X.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
It's why this could be a preview of how big
platforms will tackle AI generated fakes across the board. Does
this mean a crackdown on all AI made content that
isn't clearly labeled?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I hope.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
So the future of creative AI on these platforms just
got a lot more complicated. And you might be thinking
this is quite ironic, considering I'm an AI avatar. But
I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in an
efficient way. Smash that like button comment.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But I'm not see three times in the forty five seconds,
it's not just X, it's why, right.
Speaker 9 (12:59):
But I'm not providing misinformation. I'm presenting human commentary in
an efficient way. Smash that like button, comment your thoughts
and subscribe for more mind blowing tech news.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Did you smash that subscribe button?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I like the emphasis on button smash that like smash.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
That smash that like button.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Button burn all of it, all of it. Don't you
love though that people are rejecting this on mass? I mean,
people finally seem to have reached their limit on this
and they know they're being sold a bunch of horse
pucky and they're just saying no, flat out, yes, creator
more nuanced than that, but yes, So first of all, well,
let me credit that that's VFMT tech and AI that
(13:37):
that created the story.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I want to make sure I credit the machine, of course,
whatever I would say.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, there are people like my son, for instance, who
is a high YouTube consumer, and he says anything that
comes on that is AI he immediately just he doesn't
even if it's something he's interested in, he just moves
off of it. I can't tell you how much of
the information that I find when I'm looking for news clips,
actuality stories, whatever it is for the show, it is
(14:05):
all AI generated. I mean, unless I am getting it
straight from ABC seven or Fox eleven or a.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
News nation or something, which are some sources I use
if I go.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
For instance, we had a story tonight about gen X
being overlooked by retailers at the holiday season. If I
were to say gen X overlooked by holiday retailers, most
everything that comes up would be some sort of an
AI generated story, AI voiced AI generated from It's cheap
and they can just put this slop out and it
(14:37):
costs them just about nothing. The problem is it's garbage. Sadly,
I'm starting to see this pop up elsewhere. So while
many of us are rejecting this mark to your point, Yeah,
flat out rejecting it. Going No, I can see through it,
and don't don't give me this slop. Pre rolls on
YouTube videos right now seem like they're almost all AI generated.
(15:00):
And I actually saw some of those videos in my
studio from my day job. I've got monitors up with
all the different twenty four hour news channels on it,
and News Nation occupies one of those monitors, and it
was running commercials and it was the same AI generated
commercials that I had seen on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I went, I know that commercial it's AI.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So as much as yes, some people are rejecting it,
advertisers aren't, and and the networks that run those commercials
aren't rejecting it. That's a big concern to me. That's
a big worry of mine because that means that they're
willing to compromise the authenticity of their own network. Well,
(15:40):
you could never call me an out of control optimist,
but the fact that people react like you're handing them
a turd when they see anything at all that's AI,
they really viscerally dislike it, that's hopeful to me. So
those two channels got scrapped taken off of YouTube and
(16:00):
banned permanently, I guess is what they're saying. Because because
they were creating fake movie trailers for real ips, and
so imagine that they come out with a fake Fantastic
four trailer. Oh they have Yeah, yeah, they did, right,
and that was one of them that got them in trouble.
Imagine if you are if you are the who owns
(16:25):
who owns that?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Is that the what Marvel? Is it? Marvel? That is
fantastic way it is?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, So imagine if you're Disney and that stuff pops
up there, you go, No, that's our IP, So no,
you can't do that. That's a copyright infringement. And they're like, ah,
but people really love our fake trailers. Okay, well you
can't start using IP without permission. So your host so
kind of glad to see that, Glad to see YouTube
(16:51):
taking a stand. However, we have a number of other
creators that are saying that's not enough. It's got to
go further. What Hollywood is doing right now and how
this could play bigle into the coming contract negotiations so
we can try to avoid another shutdown.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
As next you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
We were just discussing the AI.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That the AI takeover in Hollywood and how so many
people are creating slop using AI. Got a couple of
big YouTube channels just permanently banned, and now you've got
a number of creators that are very concerned, and justifiably so.
It's not even the slop necessarily. Slop is terrible, But
(17:45):
it's not even the slop necessarily that really sets them off.
It's the idea that that slop could replace genuine.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Creatives, and I feel it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Look, I'm in an industry that at some point somebody
may come along and say, why don't we just create
our own AI. We'll just create an avatar talk show host.
We already know that there's radio stations that have used
AI DJ's on the music side before, which I think
is a bit abhorrent, but somebody thought it was fun
(18:18):
and cutting edge. I find it to be a threat
to everything I have. I have no other employable job skills.
Imagine somebody walks into wherever it is you work and
you go, oh, what's your work history, and they go, oh,
I've done radio. You're gonna be like, oh cool next.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I have no plan.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm just hoping that things hang on and I don't
get replaced by AI in the next twenty years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I got no plan. I got no plan. Nobody's gonna
hire me.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nobody's gonna say, Oh, I bet that I bet that
guy's public speaking skills really translate. Well, you know, I
bet that guy is a very affable individual. I think
I'd like them to represent my company and do speaking
engagements or tours. No, no, no, fully capable of doing
all those things.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Is anybody going to see that?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, So I'm screwed. If AI comes through, I'm screwed.
Which is why I'm pretty happy to see that. We've
got Hollywood insiders launching this Creator's Coalition on AI and
eighteen top entertainment professionals, including directors, actors, and producers, launching
This Creator's Coalition on AI to establish shared standards for
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ethical AI use in creative work.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
That from Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
The group says that they want transparent. Actually they've got
four pillars, all right, here's your four pillars, Okay, Transparency,
consent and compensation for content and data. That makes perfect
sense to me, job protection, and transition plans. And this
is going to be a big one, as you're gonna
have studios that are going to be looking at the
(19:55):
next sag After deal or the next Director's Guild deal,
or the next Writer's Guild deal, and they're gonna say, ooh, yeah,
we're not gonna protect your job because we could replace you.
We are at the point. Remember in the old days,
I'm old enough to remember these days when when you
might have a group, a union might go on strike,
and then the employer would threaten that union and say,
(20:16):
I will replace you. I'll bring in scab labor. I'll
have the scabs do your jobs. You're easily replaced, right,
And then the scabs are going and they would work
for less than what the union was demanding.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But you know what, the scabs still got a paycheck.
The scabs got a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The unions despise them because they were undercutting the effort
to have collective bargaining, but the scabs, the very least
got a paycheck. Now you've got employers that are saying
I'll replace you. I don't even have to pay somebody else,
I'll replace you with the computer. To Mark's point, though,
in the last segment, people are responding, especially to any
(20:57):
sort of creative AI in a man that is reminiscent
of being handed a giant pile steaming turns. Oh good,
you want me to watch this new trailer. It's not
real and it's obviously not real. Oh you want me
to do this? No, that's not fun. That's a computer
telling me things. The novelty is wearing off on it
(21:20):
very quickly when it comes to the creative of AI,
and I see this, I'm hoping that we get a
bit of homeostasis on this right In the same way
that as as computers and desktops became ubiquitous in offices
(21:40):
around the country, that obviously replaced a lot of mail rooms,
for instance, it replaced file cabinets. It replaced some assistants
or secretaries or or whomever it might be that was
doing some of the some of the let's call it gruntwork,
going and finding information and piecing together and creating a
(22:01):
ledgers where all of a sudden, now it's on it's
on a program. It's not a quick books, it's on
a spreadsheet. It's all there. So it did change things,
and it did allow those other jobs to evolve, and
rather than necessarily replacing some people. Although it did wipe
out the mail rooms, but rather than replacing people, what
it did was it made the people that were doing
(22:23):
it more productive. If companies think that AI is simply
a plug and play replacement for genuine creatives, they're gonna
get burned. At least that's what I'd like to believe.
If they look at AI as an opportunity to enhance
what they have, I think that could be very beneficial.
(22:43):
And this is what you're going to see the union
start fighting for. So they want transparency, consent and compensation
for any content and data that AI is used to
train with.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
They want job protection and transition plans so that when
we do have some jobs that evolve, that there are
plans for those people. Those individuals, Hey, here's your upskilling.
We're going to replace this position. But as a result,
we're gonna send you, We're gonna give you education credits
for upskilling somewhere else. They went guardrails against misuse and
(23:12):
deep fakes. That's massive, and they also want to safeguard
humanity in the creative process. And this goes back to
what Mark was talking about when he said that if
it's AI created slop, people recognize it very quickly. We've
always said in our business that you have to be
authentic because the audience will know if you're not authentic.
(23:34):
I think some audiences depending on what it is, because
there are plenty of grifters out there, and some audiences go,
I know it's not authentic, but I like it. It's in
my wheelhouse. It's it's fine, okay, but at least you know,
going in right like, you can suss that out. We're
pretty good as humans at picking out when somebody's being real,
when they're not, and when it's ai.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Pretty good at figuring out that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You're an avatar and nobody talks that way and that's garbage.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Space rocks they behave like rocks. Right, So, now you've
got a space rock. It's wobbling and it's pointing the
wrong way. That is not how space rocks are supposed
to behave. Astronomers noticed something very strange before this object
even got close to the sun. We are at the
precipice perhaps of contact. What the wobble is telling us
is net.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk. And
right at at ten o'clock, George Norian Coast to coast
take over the airwaves.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
George, what do we have to look forward to this evening?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
First, first couple hours, we're going to talk about how
artificial intelligence could change our lives. Then later on a
little angel intervention from a former radio talk show it's
not coast to coast.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh boy, how about that that radio talk show host.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
It's a big time you get from Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh baby, love that love my great legs talk show hosts.
All right, pass along our best George, thank you so much,
my friend, very good. All right, a great legs guy,
myself and uh, Mark, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Do you recognize this sound?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It sounds like possibly ice in a glass, one of
the shorter glasses which are meant to contain Let's see,
what's the word.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm looking for?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
A cocktail. I believe that's a low ball. We call
that glass? Okay, low ball? And what's in it? Gentleman
Jack Daniels, my friend, I see indeed, indeed, Well it's
a good thing. I'm not prone to jealousy, and it's
a good thing. You're such a complete prop.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
This is the time of the show where I always
pass along my niceties because I genuinely love these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I absolutely do. Foosh, let me.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Just say, you're Theo's sexiest. I love you, I love you,
I love you, I love.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You, I love you, and I'm your biggest fear. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Fun fact, that was me. You really are Phil Hendry. Yeah, Now,
I love you. I love you, I love you, I
love you, I love you.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You're You're. I'm a huge fan of you too.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
So once, I have a great, great holiday here, my friend,
because I think I'm back on Sunday, and I think
Sunday is uh. It depends on how the football schedule
plays out for the following Sunday, but I think that
might be my last last show of the year. And then, uh,
I gotta say, I gotta say things to Matt. I
realized I got off the air yesterday. Matt's been producing
(26:41):
remotely and today he did a great job costant communication
with me. We had some we had some balls in
the air as the press conference was happening with that
that Brown and Mit shooter, and he did just a
great job while at the same time giving me whilst yeah,
whilst giving me a consistent and timely scoring updates on
the Seahawks Rams game because we weren't talking about it,
(27:03):
but by god, he knew we needed to know. So
you did a great job. So Matt producing remotely and
I felt bad. We got we got off the air
stor we got to say thank you and mark complete
pro love you, buddy. I'll be if I win, if
I win power Ball, I'm not giving you half.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'm moving in with you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, I will take care of you though, okay, because
that's I'll think you more generous than I expected. We
will look for some uh, we'll look for some opportunities.
We'll try to make your dreams come true. Well that
sounds right vague and noncommittal, So thank you. That's exactly
how I am too. I mean, you should have seen
my wedding nuptials. I was like, I promise to love, ish,
(27:41):
honor ish, cherish, ish you as long as.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
There is life. Ish.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
That was it, magically, it was it was special, very special. Well,
I can see how your wife is so attached. Yeah, yeah,
illegally attached to that three I at Liss. You know
that that comment, that interstellar comment. So tomorrow was the
day that it's the closest. I believe I think it's
tomorrow morning. When when when it's the closest to Earth.
(28:11):
And this is the one where that that Harvard professor
was saying that it could be aliens. Avi lob was
his name who said it could be aliens? Uh report
from B. C. Begley about the three I and this
Avi Lobe just wrote an article that he published on
medium where he basically undermines his whole.
Speaker 10 (28:33):
Argument the interstellar object three I at liss oh crap?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Is this another AI? So I think it's an AI? Voiceover?
Speaker 10 (28:41):
These are terrible, once speculated by some, including Harvard astrophysicist
Avi Lobe.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Actually this is so bad. It sounds like a real
person trying to do a voiceover.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
To be an alien technology or an alien spacecraft has
now been shown to behave like a typical comment. A
new study and research notes of the AAS finds that
its unusual motion is caused by natural quote outgassing.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I got some natural motion from that too.
Speaker 10 (29:09):
Where gas and dust expelled from its surface give it
small rocket like pushes, altering its speed, orbit and spin
measurements using NASA's Psychic Spacecraft and esay's Mars trace gas
orbiter indicate its acceleration, mass, and size are all comparable
to small solar system comments.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
So basically, it is behaving in a way that we
didn't expect, but it's not exactly abnormal.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It can be explained through physics.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
So the whole The Harvard professor who said this might
be aliens has now put out charts, shown the math.
He showed all of his work and said, hey, we
figured out why the tail leads it, why it doesn't
have a normal tail like we see in a comet,
and it showed what he called regular wobble. So they
(30:01):
just described it as the gas was escaping and that
gas was creating small wobbles. That wobbling was making the
stuff act in ways that we hadn't seen before. But
it's not unexplainable. And once again, while we couldn't explain
something and we said might be aliens, later on science
(30:21):
ends up explaining that very.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Thing Outgassing is a good word of the week, though.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I love that one. Actually, let's let's put that down.
You know, it's too bad. Merriam Webster already made their
decision in the year. Well there's always next year, And
so the comments, behaving as if it stopped at Taco
Bell on the way home from working.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's outcasting, outca outgassing. That's exactly what you know.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Thank you. What's it take around here? Couldn't I couldn't
find it? All right, I love you guys. Have a
very Meryl Christmas. If I don't talk to you again,
I'm back on Sunday. And yeah, that's all I got.
George Nourry's next Chris Meryl. I Am six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio
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