July 28, 2025 • 15 mins
Dr. John Kim is covering the casual hook up dangers and psycholgical side effects of hormonal birth control and how it could impact relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. So,
my next guest is a pharmacist. He's also one of
the leading experts on drug induced mitrochondrial dysfunction. We'll talk
about that in a minute. He has lectured at on pharmacy,
medical and holistic health at various conferences. But here's where
(00:23):
I found him. Where I find all my greatest thinkers
on the planet on Instagram because that algorithm figured out
that I needed to hear this, and he had a
post about how casual hookups are bad for our mental health. Well,
I know the psychological reasons for that, right. They don't
(00:44):
call you back, you get ghosted, you feel disappointed. You
thought it was going to be a long term relationship,
but it wasn't. Oh no, no, no. My next guest
has a totally different idea of it. I would like
to welcome doctor John Kim, who's out in New Jersey. Hi,
doctor Kim, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thank you so much for this opportunity. I'm very excited
to talk about this topic. Yeah, so I'm feeling great
as well. So sorry, let's.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Talk about let's talk about your post. So, how is
it that casual sex is bad for our mental health?
Besides the fact they don't call us back.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, one of the things that I actually focused on
was not just a casual sex. It's more of a kissing.
That was when focal point that I talked.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
About kissing strangers is usually part of casual sex.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's definitely. Yet, I mean, there's so many things going on.
There's definitely some hook up parties going on there, or
it could be some club, random clubs you go to.
There's so much, you know, thing going on these days
that you don't know who you meeting, and not even
that what kind of particular medical history or I call
(01:54):
it the microbiome.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
History, the microbiome history. So let's say somebody meets somebody
on a date app, and this is a very common
situation by the way, they meet via text by messaging
on a dating app. They get together in the real
real world while they're having their coffee or dinner, they
find they're sexually attracted to each other, and then they
go home and have sex and nobody's done any background checks,
(02:17):
and nobody knows about their medical history. So what are
the dangers and how does it could it negatively impact
our mental health?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, the couple of things that I like to really
look at is when I look at science and human biology,
look at the microbiome, and if people are not knowing
what micaelbooms are, it's basically your bacteria, yours viruses, as
well as parasites and fung guide. Those all are part
of our entire ecosystems inside and outside.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, we all have little microscopic bugs, and it's all
our unique pattern of bugs that we allow the flora
and fauna that we allow to live in our body.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, And our macrobiome is our second genome basically, and
shoelas are super organisms. Over one hundred trillion microbes live
in US and around US, and these microbiomes that can
affect our mood, immunity, hormones, and even decision making skills.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So one thing I will tell you is that I'm
quite aware that we make ninety percent of our serotonin
in our gut, and that I don't want to tell
people to go off there antidepressant. However, there are ways
like giving up drugs and alcohol and antibiotics and eating
a really healthy prebiotic diet that can help increase your
(03:34):
serotonin levels but go on.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Becaut and we've seen that happening in our in my
practice and all the patients that I take care of
eat of them. They're dealing with gut issues. Usually when
you have a leaky gut, we're having that IBS or
other historic gut issues. It kind of goes into having
depressure and anxiety. So that's all into linked. But going
back to the saint topic, every kiss or sexual interaction
(03:57):
is a biological handshake. We pulled your inner world, and
so kissing himself transfers micros statacinds. These are inflammatory markers
in our immune system and hormone signaling. And it's a
part that I was talking about how saliva contains quotosol,
testosterion statakins, which is the inflammatory markers and immune messengers
(04:20):
which can modulate your stress response even if you're not
consciously aware of it. So if you think about a
random hookup, or let's just say it is a steady hookup,
but there's nothing going on in terms of a congruent,
solid relationship for that matter, even then there's some major
psychological impact there stress response. But then you're also sharing
(04:44):
that person's microbiome and every other things I just mentioned before.
And so when I saw this study, this the particular
study back in twenty fourteen, and there's a title called
Shaping the Oral Microbiota through Intimate Pissing. It was published
back in twenty fourteen in the Journal of Microbiome. So
(05:04):
this is really the interesting part where this particular study
show that ten second intimate kiss can transfer up to
eighty million bacteria from one person to the other.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
A ten second kiss transfers eighty million bacteria, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Eighty million.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Back, let's say they are suffering from depression. Can they
actually transfer that Can you catch depression?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, I it's not. It's not the depression they're catching,
but the you're actually now mixing that particular microbiome. Right,
So remember microbiomes, I should before they actually transfer messengers
into our body as well as changes are moved. Right.
I've seen this happen where patients who actually have a
(05:50):
very bad gut issues, when they start to get better
in their guts, they start to feel better, not even
just that their mental health and their outlook becomes a
whole lot better decision skills, It gets better, they become
a lot more tentative around their surroundings. So all these
things are interrelated into our microbiota, and so it's the
(06:13):
important part that we have to look at. But when
you look at the long term partner tends tend to
develop similar microbiota as well. So let's just say amerried couple,
they're living together, they end up having two have that
similar microbiome status between the two. And I've seen this
where a husband who actually has an H. Pylori infection
(06:34):
the white gets at the same time, right, and they
end up having to develop the similar gut issues. And
so when you do a more frequent kissing, the greater
the micro microbial synchronization that goes in. And this exchange
is not limited to the mouth. It can also affect
the gut and then it also affects the systemic inflammation
over time. And there's a part that I've mentioned about
(06:56):
in my real that over time, Right, this is going
to affect your health. It's going to give you much
more stress response going on. Never mind the casual sex part.
This is even broader topic of who you date, who
you interact with, who you have sex with. Right, these
are the really important parts that you have to look at.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This makes me think of another study I read once
that showed that long term relationship health, mental health, well being,
satisfaction in a romantic relationship is less determined by frequency
of sex and more often determined by frequency of kissing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes. Why because that microbiotic exchange that goes on is
so powerful that you know, I jokingly say, I don't
want to mix my microbiome with you, like it's just
like it's a very you know, all fish comment. But
the thing is it has a lot of truth behind that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is amazing. So this is a Okay, Doctor Kim,
we have to go for a break. When we come,
I want to talk out about another piece of biology
that you can hopefully expand on about women's old factory
response when they're on the birth control pill and their
ability to smell good partners or not. Because on this break,
(08:15):
my husband happens to be down in the conference room
and I'm gonna run down and kiss him because I
think I need to do that. Right now, you're listening.
You're listening to the Doctor Wendywall Show on kf I
A M six forty. My guest doctor John Kim, By
the way, doctor Kim, where can they find you? On Instagram?
What's your handle?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Absolutely is John dot farm D p h A r
m D. I'm a function synphomsist with twenty years of
experiencing clinical experience in dealing with hormone gut and as
well as immune imbalance.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
John farm MD, not farm like you know, the cattle
and the chickens p h A r M farm m D.
John farm MD. Got it? And John is j O
N no h there, okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Write it down.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh it is n oh?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, that said. You can find you on my website
is Kimwaalness dot co.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Kim Wellness dot Co. Got it? Okay, you guys write
that down please, John Pharma MD on Instagram. All right,
So we've been talking about how kissing and frequent casual
sex with strangers means that you're taking a lot of
biome into you. And you may wonder that your bad
mood is just because you've had bad dates, but it
could be actually biologically related. But let's turn the conversation
(09:30):
to something I'm well aware of which and I'm sure
you are too, The famous Swiss T shirt study right
where women smelled a man's pheromone simply by smelling a
T shirt he'd slept in and decided how attracted to
him or not they were. And then the researchers looked
at the the pheromones indicate immune system cells, and they
(09:54):
found that the more different someone's immune system, in other words,
their ancestors fought off a whole bunch of other disease.
Then you did there If the more different it was,
the more delicious they smelled, the more sexually attractive. And
actually there's research to show that couples who have disparate
different immune systems have a longer sustained, exciting sex life.
(10:16):
There's research into this. You know, they pay researchers to
do this kind of stuff. All right, So doctor Kim,
I want to know about what happens when women are
on the birth control pill, and it kind of mimics pregnancy, right,
So wouldn't that change things?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No, it's not. Actually, what they have seen is that
for mortal birth control pills, so oral contraceptors actually also
the woman's natural hormone balancing. As a result, it she
flattens the natural cyclic fluctuation of estrogen and progection. So
there's actually profound effect on all factory receptors, especially those
tunes to immune compatibility, pheromone perception, and preference. And so
(11:00):
there's a studied actually shown, and there's a particular thing
that I just had to research on before we got on.
It was a study back in two thousand and eight,
and it was a study called the Major Historic Compatibility
Complex or MC dependent mate preference reverse in women taking pills.
And there's a part that's really complex is that women
(11:21):
on birth control pills have this diverse preference, often choosing
genetically similar partners, which makes you reduce sexual satisfaction. You
heard me, They.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Actually choose bad mates when they're on the birth control pill.
It reduces sexual satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yep, an increased risk of infertility or relationship breakdown. You
know what, how profounded that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I know people who've had so many fertility problems and
so many miscarriages and so much stuff, and they have
said to me, you know, we met when I was
on the pill, and this could be part of it.
Then I think back about some of the questionable long
term relationships I was in and I was on the
pill when I chose them. Who knew that doing something
(12:10):
to protect yourself from pregnancy would actually decrease your ability
to be fertile if you chose a partner that was
too genetically compatible. That's what you're saying. They're too genetically compatible.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right, So in order for a diverse genetic modification that
goes on generation generation, you need to find somebody the
opposite of you. Right. So that's human evolution, right. That's
the reason why there's genetic issues within incestful relationship as well,
which you should not be doing anyway. But there's a
(12:42):
reason why when we were talking about all these things.
Attraction is immune based, right. Women off the pills are
drug to mats that are said that are signaling immune compatibility.
So you don't have those particular ways to find who
is compatible for me to make the best baby, lid.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Off, right, And we should say that we should. I
just want to explain something in lay people's terms for
how immune cells work. When two people mate to try
to procreate and make another baby, they take might take
brown eyes from one, dark hair from another, long legs
from another, freckles from another parent. They choose, right, accept
immune system genes. Immune system genes are a kind of
(13:25):
gene that combines to create a stronger human. So it
makes sense that the more different your immune system, the
more you will be chemically drawn towards them to make
a stronger human. Did I get that right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Absolutely? So that's a human evolution right. And then I
just mentioned that before pills flattens the hormone response, so
it actually flattens nature, and so homo contraception blunts this
old factory. They are like trying to pick a wine?
What up? Plug those? Basically right, we don't know what
kind of a good flavor is going to be, and
(14:01):
saw you're just picking random bottles and then you're like,
wait a minute, this tastes horrible.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh that's a perfect metaphor. Ladies, don't go out there
and try to choose a man with your nose plugged
or being on the pill. I you know what, doctor Kim,
what you've done for me. You have pulled me off
the guilt train here tonight, because I'm gonna blame all
my past or relationships on the fact that I was
on the pill and I just didn't have the ability
(14:28):
to choose good medical information. Thank you so much for
joining us. My guest is doctor John Kim. You can
find him on Instagram at John dot Pharma MD Pharma
or farm farm D farm D farm D at John
dot farm d got it. Thanks so much for being
with us Dot.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That brings the Doctor Wendywall Show to a close. It's
always my pleasure to be with you here every Sunday
night from seven to nine pm. If you'd like to
follow me on my social media, the handle is at
Dr Wendy Walsh. But I'm always here for you on KFI.
Thanks much for being here. You've been listening to the
Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on KFI a M six forty
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. So,
my next guest is a pharmacist. He's also one of
the leading experts on drug induced mitrochondrial dysfunction. We'll talk
about that in a minute. He has lectured at on pharmacy,
medical and holistic health at various conferences. But here's where
(00:23):
I found him. Where I find all my greatest thinkers
on the planet on Instagram because that algorithm figured out
that I needed to hear this, and he had a
post about how casual hookups are bad for our mental health. Well,
I know the psychological reasons for that, right. They don't
(00:44):
call you back, you get ghosted, you feel disappointed. You
thought it was going to be a long term relationship,
but it wasn't. Oh no, no, no. My next guest
has a totally different idea of it. I would like
to welcome doctor John Kim, who's out in New Jersey. Hi,
doctor Kim, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thank you so much for this opportunity. I'm very excited
to talk about this topic. Yeah, so I'm feeling great
as well. So sorry, let's.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Talk about let's talk about your post. So, how is
it that casual sex is bad for our mental health?
Besides the fact they don't call us back.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, one of the things that I actually focused on
was not just a casual sex. It's more of a kissing.
That was when focal point that I talked.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
About kissing strangers is usually part of casual sex.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's definitely. Yet, I mean, there's so many things going on.
There's definitely some hook up parties going on there, or
it could be some club, random clubs you go to.
There's so much, you know, thing going on these days
that you don't know who you meeting, and not even
that what kind of particular medical history or I call
(01:54):
it the microbiome.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
History, the microbiome history. So let's say somebody meets somebody
on a date app, and this is a very common
situation by the way, they meet via text by messaging
on a dating app. They get together in the real
real world while they're having their coffee or dinner, they
find they're sexually attracted to each other, and then they
go home and have sex and nobody's done any background checks,
(02:17):
and nobody knows about their medical history. So what are
the dangers and how does it could it negatively impact
our mental health?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, the couple of things that I like to really
look at is when I look at science and human biology,
look at the microbiome, and if people are not knowing
what micaelbooms are, it's basically your bacteria, yours viruses, as
well as parasites and fung guide. Those all are part
of our entire ecosystems inside and outside.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, we all have little microscopic bugs, and it's all
our unique pattern of bugs that we allow the flora
and fauna that we allow to live in our body.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, And our macrobiome is our second genome basically, and
shoelas are super organisms. Over one hundred trillion microbes live
in US and around US, and these microbiomes that can
affect our mood, immunity, hormones, and even decision making skills.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So one thing I will tell you is that I'm
quite aware that we make ninety percent of our serotonin
in our gut, and that I don't want to tell
people to go off there antidepressant. However, there are ways
like giving up drugs and alcohol and antibiotics and eating
a really healthy prebiotic diet that can help increase your
(03:34):
serotonin levels but go on.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Becaut and we've seen that happening in our in my
practice and all the patients that I take care of
eat of them. They're dealing with gut issues. Usually when
you have a leaky gut, we're having that IBS or
other historic gut issues. It kind of goes into having
depressure and anxiety. So that's all into linked. But going
back to the saint topic, every kiss or sexual interaction
(03:57):
is a biological handshake. We pulled your inner world, and
so kissing himself transfers micros statacinds. These are inflammatory markers
in our immune system and hormone signaling. And it's a
part that I was talking about how saliva contains quotosol,
testosterion statakins, which is the inflammatory markers and immune messengers
(04:20):
which can modulate your stress response even if you're not
consciously aware of it. So if you think about a
random hookup, or let's just say it is a steady hookup,
but there's nothing going on in terms of a congruent,
solid relationship for that matter, even then there's some major
psychological impact there stress response. But then you're also sharing
(04:44):
that person's microbiome and every other things I just mentioned before.
And so when I saw this study, this the particular
study back in twenty fourteen, and there's a title called
Shaping the Oral Microbiota through Intimate Pissing. It was published
back in twenty fourteen in the Journal of Microbiome. So
(05:04):
this is really the interesting part where this particular study
show that ten second intimate kiss can transfer up to
eighty million bacteria from one person to the other.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
A ten second kiss transfers eighty million bacteria, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Eighty million.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Back, let's say they are suffering from depression. Can they
actually transfer that Can you catch depression?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, I it's not. It's not the depression they're catching,
but the you're actually now mixing that particular microbiome. Right,
So remember microbiomes, I should before they actually transfer messengers
into our body as well as changes are moved. Right.
I've seen this happen where patients who actually have a
(05:50):
very bad gut issues, when they start to get better
in their guts, they start to feel better, not even
just that their mental health and their outlook becomes a
whole lot better decision skills, It gets better, they become
a lot more tentative around their surroundings. So all these
things are interrelated into our microbiota, and so it's the
(06:13):
important part that we have to look at. But when
you look at the long term partner tends tend to
develop similar microbiota as well. So let's just say amerried couple,
they're living together, they end up having two have that
similar microbiome status between the two. And I've seen this
where a husband who actually has an H. Pylori infection
(06:34):
the white gets at the same time, right, and they
end up having to develop the similar gut issues. And
so when you do a more frequent kissing, the greater
the micro microbial synchronization that goes in. And this exchange
is not limited to the mouth. It can also affect
the gut and then it also affects the systemic inflammation
over time. And there's a part that I've mentioned about
(06:56):
in my real that over time, Right, this is going
to affect your health. It's going to give you much
more stress response going on. Never mind the casual sex part.
This is even broader topic of who you date, who
you interact with, who you have sex with. Right, these
are the really important parts that you have to look at.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This makes me think of another study I read once
that showed that long term relationship health, mental health, well being,
satisfaction in a romantic relationship is less determined by frequency
of sex and more often determined by frequency of kissing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes. Why because that microbiotic exchange that goes on is
so powerful that you know, I jokingly say, I don't
want to mix my microbiome with you, like it's just
like it's a very you know, all fish comment. But
the thing is it has a lot of truth behind that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is amazing. So this is a Okay, Doctor Kim,
we have to go for a break. When we come,
I want to talk out about another piece of biology
that you can hopefully expand on about women's old factory
response when they're on the birth control pill and their
ability to smell good partners or not. Because on this break,
(08:15):
my husband happens to be down in the conference room
and I'm gonna run down and kiss him because I
think I need to do that. Right now, you're listening.
You're listening to the Doctor Wendywall Show on kf I
A M six forty. My guest doctor John Kim, By
the way, doctor Kim, where can they find you? On Instagram?
What's your handle?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Absolutely is John dot farm D p h A r
m D. I'm a function synphomsist with twenty years of
experiencing clinical experience in dealing with hormone gut and as
well as immune imbalance.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
John farm MD, not farm like you know, the cattle
and the chickens p h A r M farm m D.
John farm MD. Got it? And John is j O
N no h there, okay, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Write it down.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh it is n oh?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, that said. You can find you on my website
is Kimwaalness dot co.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Kim Wellness dot Co. Got it? Okay, you guys write
that down please, John Pharma MD on Instagram. All right,
So we've been talking about how kissing and frequent casual
sex with strangers means that you're taking a lot of
biome into you. And you may wonder that your bad
mood is just because you've had bad dates, but it
could be actually biologically related. But let's turn the conversation
(09:30):
to something I'm well aware of which and I'm sure
you are too, The famous Swiss T shirt study right
where women smelled a man's pheromone simply by smelling a
T shirt he'd slept in and decided how attracted to
him or not they were. And then the researchers looked
at the the pheromones indicate immune system cells, and they
(09:54):
found that the more different someone's immune system, in other words,
their ancestors fought off a whole bunch of other disease.
Then you did there If the more different it was,
the more delicious they smelled, the more sexually attractive. And
actually there's research to show that couples who have disparate
different immune systems have a longer sustained, exciting sex life.
(10:16):
There's research into this. You know, they pay researchers to
do this kind of stuff. All right, So doctor Kim,
I want to know about what happens when women are
on the birth control pill, and it kind of mimics pregnancy, right,
So wouldn't that change things?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
No, it's not. Actually, what they have seen is that
for mortal birth control pills, so oral contraceptors actually also
the woman's natural hormone balancing. As a result, it she
flattens the natural cyclic fluctuation of estrogen and progection. So
there's actually profound effect on all factory receptors, especially those
tunes to immune compatibility, pheromone perception, and preference. And so
(11:00):
there's a studied actually shown, and there's a particular thing
that I just had to research on before we got on.
It was a study back in two thousand and eight,
and it was a study called the Major Historic Compatibility
Complex or MC dependent mate preference reverse in women taking pills.
And there's a part that's really complex is that women
(11:21):
on birth control pills have this diverse preference, often choosing
genetically similar partners, which makes you reduce sexual satisfaction. You
heard me, They.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Actually choose bad mates when they're on the birth control pill.
It reduces sexual satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yep, an increased risk of infertility or relationship breakdown. You
know what, how profounded that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I know people who've had so many fertility problems and
so many miscarriages and so much stuff, and they have
said to me, you know, we met when I was
on the pill, and this could be part of it.
Then I think back about some of the questionable long
term relationships I was in and I was on the
pill when I chose them. Who knew that doing something
(12:10):
to protect yourself from pregnancy would actually decrease your ability
to be fertile if you chose a partner that was
too genetically compatible. That's what you're saying. They're too genetically compatible.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right, So in order for a diverse genetic modification that
goes on generation generation, you need to find somebody the
opposite of you. Right. So that's human evolution, right. That's
the reason why there's genetic issues within incestful relationship as well,
which you should not be doing anyway. But there's a
(12:42):
reason why when we were talking about all these things.
Attraction is immune based, right. Women off the pills are
drug to mats that are said that are signaling immune compatibility.
So you don't have those particular ways to find who
is compatible for me to make the best baby, lid.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Off, right, And we should say that we should. I
just want to explain something in lay people's terms for
how immune cells work. When two people mate to try
to procreate and make another baby, they take might take
brown eyes from one, dark hair from another, long legs
from another, freckles from another parent. They choose, right, accept
immune system genes. Immune system genes are a kind of
(13:25):
gene that combines to create a stronger human. So it
makes sense that the more different your immune system, the
more you will be chemically drawn towards them to make
a stronger human. Did I get that right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Absolutely? So that's a human evolution right. And then I
just mentioned that before pills flattens the hormone response, so
it actually flattens nature, and so homo contraception blunts this
old factory. They are like trying to pick a wine?
What up? Plug those? Basically right, we don't know what
kind of a good flavor is going to be, and
(14:01):
saw you're just picking random bottles and then you're like,
wait a minute, this tastes horrible.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh that's a perfect metaphor. Ladies, don't go out there
and try to choose a man with your nose plugged
or being on the pill. I you know what, doctor Kim,
what you've done for me. You have pulled me off
the guilt train here tonight, because I'm gonna blame all
my past or relationships on the fact that I was
on the pill and I just didn't have the ability
(14:28):
to choose good medical information. Thank you so much for
joining us. My guest is doctor John Kim. You can
find him on Instagram at John dot Pharma MD Pharma
or farm farm D farm D farm D at John
dot farm d got it. Thanks so much for being
with us Dot.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
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