August 4, 2025 • 15 mins
Hailey Heuckman, is the woman who turned her Instagram into a dating app. She is 38, 5'1" with a big enough personality to compensate for at least 3 inches. All this information is on her dating profile on Instagram plus more. She had 30k followers before the viral post but now she has almost doubled that. It's been an interesting journey. Take a listen and get some tips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Doctor Wendywell Show on KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm so
excited to invite my next guest on the show because
I fell in love with her on Instagram. No, I
didn't send her a DM and ask her out, not
like that. I just loved her posts, her profile, her honesty,
(00:22):
her authenticity. You know they say that good social media
is really about being real. Well, my next guest, her
name is Hailey Heckman, is more real than you can imagine.
Instead of going on dating apps, or maybe after going
on dating apps and finding problems, she created a post
(00:42):
called my dating application and it is the most adorable post.
Welcome Hailey Heckman.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi, Wendy, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So where First of all, where do you live?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I live in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh you're in Boise, Idaho. Wonderful and yes, So if
I can just describe you a little bit into just
basic schema for people, because this is there listening with
their ears only. She is a very attractive young woman
in her thirties. She has a career in mental health
and addiction prevention. What does that mean? Prevention.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So I work with communities to provide dragon alcohol free
events to promote folks to seek mental health and also
promote suicide prevention awareness.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And in addition, she also has her own online vintage
business where you sell other people's trash and you turn
it into treasures.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Is that right? Sort of like that? Yes, And so
my niche that I've fallen into is vintage Western and
that I live out here in the West. Though it's
kind of it's pretty popular, and I'm seeing it more
in mainstream as well.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, so you don't know, but I have an airbnb
farm in Oregon and I had to decorate that barn
with all kinds of cool stuff that I should have
gone on to your site to find what I needed.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I can be your new source exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So let's talk about before we talk about what was
in your Instagram post, which now has one point four million.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Views, yes, correct.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And before you began how many followers did you have
when you put this out?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think around thirty thousand on my business page is
where I posted this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Thirty thousand and one point four million views. This is huge,
And we'll talk about the content of that post. But
I want to talk about first Where you were in
your life that made you decide to do this. Had
you been dating, were you just coming out of relationship?
Had you tried the dating apps? Set it up for me?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I actually had just moved here to Boise. I
lived in a much smaller town in Oregon, actually, and
I've been single for quite a few years, and since
I lived pretty remotely, I had tried dating apps, and
so a lot of that meant that I was dating
folks here in the Boise area, and so I just
(03:02):
I haven't had much luck and a lot of that
on the dating app. I just found that, you know,
I was wasting maybe is not a great word to use,
but a whole day, a whole tank of gas to
drive for a first date that maybe went nowhere. Communication
was lacking, commitment was lacking. I just didn't feel like
(03:24):
dating apps did a great job of kind of conveying
who I was, my personality, you know, I really did
that on my Instagram page. That's sort of how I
marketed myself. And so I kind of was like, I
should really utilize this thing that I've already kind of
grew from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So when you were deciding to create the post my
dating application. By the way, if people want to search
for it, how do they find it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
My business page is at Rice and Beans Collective, at.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rice and Bean's Collective, and you will see it, I
hope you. Yet you pinned it to the top right, Yes,
I did at Rice and Beings Collective. Okay, So it's
very brave and very open. Tell me exactly what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So I have strategic photos.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The great thing about owning my own businesses, and it's
a clothing business, primarily is that I had nice photos,
you know, to accompany this. But the context and the
content in that application, you know, some of it is
funny and lighthearted. But at the core of this dating
application is that I do truly want to find a partner.
(04:35):
I'm thirty eight years old, I've never been married, I
don't have kids. Those are things that I would like
in my life, and so I do talk about that
in the application. I talk about a general age range,
I talk about my job, that I'm a homeowner. Those
(04:55):
are sort of things that you would find on a
dating app application anyways. But then I mixed it a
little bit of humor, like references from an old boyfriend
or the fact that I have a hot mom. You know,
sometimes guys look at the mom of their girlfriend or
their fiancee and like think, oh, she's got good geens.
So I liked I like that I could kind of
(05:16):
add that personality in there that was truly me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And it is a slideshow, right, how many slides.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
In your set?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Show?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It is seven and she.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Looks like a beautiful girl in the west, cowboy hat
and all beautiful photography. As you said, and with some humor,
you say, my height is five to one, but my
personality is big enough to compensate for at least three
three inches. I love that talk about funny enough to
laugh at my own jokes and sometimes yours. Right, good jeans,
(05:49):
my mom's hot, because that's what men think. What is
her mom gonna you know, she gonna look like her
mom someday? And oh dear right. She talks about her
interests corn dogs and sushi, that's arranged, hiking, backpacking, hot springs,
making playlist, camping, et cetera. But then very clearly what
you're looking for, no current felony charges. I love that
you use the word current because you know I've had
(06:12):
guests on this show before who actually paid their dues,
serve their time, and they are the most discriminated against
on dating apps and most they're ten percent of men
in America have experienced incarceration. Ten percent of men in American. Well,
when you break it down by race and the injustices
(06:35):
of the system, blah blah blah, you'll see that it's
different depending on the races. But the vast majority of
that time served was for a non violent crime, and
many of them learned their lesson right, and so those
people are highly So you said no current felony charges.
I like that. You also say the ability to have
a real conversation without quoting Joe Rogan, a way to
(06:57):
kind of say, dudes, if you're one of those stay
away looking for someone who is open minded and likes
to learn, and someone likes to have a good time,
you know, guys like to hear that. And so her
references she puts for references. I love this quote, high risk,
high reward from a guy on hinge from an ex boyfriend.
(07:17):
Would have married her if I wasn't such a dumb
ass a man at yard sale. She smelled great, paid
in cash. This woman is adorable, Okay, aren't you falling on?
And I'm not even showing you all seven of the
slides and what she went through. You've got to go
to Rice and Beans Collective to hear that. If you're
on Instagram, make sure you go to Rice and Bean's
(07:38):
collective and look at this adorable young woman, Hailey Heckman,
who lives in boise Ida, Idaho. She's in her thirties,
She's got a career in mental health and addiction prevention.
She owns a successful online business, she owns her home,
and she decided to forego the dating apps because she
was having a hard time there and create her own
dating application online. And how many people have reached out
(08:01):
to you, Hailey?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So I have gotten so I just as you know, honestly,
probably to the minute. Forty days total i've had that
application of I don't know the total number of actual
men that have messaged me, but there's been a lot
of dms from very kind, thought provoking men. There's also been,
you know, quite a few that I won't mention here,
(08:26):
only one blocks account so far, and also a lot.
I want to give a shout out to moms and sisters.
They have been hyping up the men and sons and
brothers in their life as well, and so all of
those messages have led to I've got three first dates
(08:46):
so far, but I do want to point out that
I really have. I just moved to Boise, and I
moved here, and I want to be totally honest because
this is a place where there are more people than
where I used to live. I'm a single person in
a small town and that tends to be very hard
to meet people. So I really am right now interested
in meeting people in the general area of where I live.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And so the three first dates were kind of from
far away. Do they fly in for you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Nope, they were right here in Boise and they so
they all went good. There's only been one second date.
I'm still just trying to navigate when I feel like
a date goes good and then it doesn't go past that,
I'm still trying to figure that part out.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It doesn't go past night, they don't call and pursue
a second date, or because you're not so interested.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Both on the second date, that the second date person
was not interested in a third date. On the first date,
I think it just kind of fizzled out, which I
think happens, and then this last first date, I think
still pending on a second date, and I'm, you know,
in that gray area that we all hate to be.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You have to be in the land of unknowing for
a while, Hayley, and you have.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
To be like, hey, I'm not comfortable to be able.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
To contain yourself during that time and go, Okay, I'm
not a bad person. I'm just going to wait and see. Okay,
let me give you a little bit of dating advice.
It's going to help you with the forty more men
that are going to call you after this radio show hits. Okay, Uh,
First relationships do best when they lead with intimacy. When
I met by the way, I just got married in August,
(10:35):
and when I met my husband five years ago. I
we sat down for our little coffee date and I
said to him, you know, we could sit here and
tell each other just how fabulous we are, but why
don't we begin by telling each other why we think
we're completely undateable? And he said, okay, you go first,
(10:59):
which I did, and after I disclose some very personal things,
then he said okay, and he disclosed a very big
personal thing about him, and so we began our relationship
talking about intimate, vulnerable things, so nobody had to front,
nobody had to be cool, all that kind of stuff, right,
So I would say that I also am a big
(11:20):
believer in the coffee date first, because, like you said,
when you know, used half a tank of gas, got
dressed up and drove to far away to see people,
and what a disappointment it was. That happens to so
many people of all genders, by the way, and really
for you to just say, hey, just get on the phone. Oh,
get on the phone first. If they won't get on
the phone and even chat for five minutes, you should
(11:41):
not give them one minute of your in person time.
They don't deserve. They need to work for you just
a little bit. And if they're too afraid to get
on the phone, how are they going to handle your
big personality that's three inches taller than you. Right, So
get them on the phone. Just say hey, I'm not
a big texter. Here's my number if you want to call,
get a Google number if you want. If you don't
(12:02):
want to put out your real fine, fine, you know,
find a way to protect yourself technologically. You can do
that and then chat for a few minutes, and after
that first phone call, say to yourself, did that sound
like my husband? Do I want to meet this person?
And don't ghost them. But afterwards you might compose a
text that says, hey, just delight to chat with you.
Good luck at your cousin's wedding next week. I don't
(12:23):
think romance is in the cards for us, but I
really appreciate it your time, that's all you do. And
I did that to probably my own forty men before
I found my husband. And then go on that coffee
date and just say, hey, I'm really busy Tuesday, but
I have a quick thirty minutes here. If he's in
the same city, it's no big deal. And when you
show up, don't be over sexualized, which I can tell
(12:45):
by your pictures. You're a regular looking, gorgeous woman, So
I love this. So wear nice makeup, but not date makeup,
not overdone out to dinner makeup, and be a little
bit cash and just very just your authentic self. And
then from that, after that coffee you both know whether
you want to have a first date or not, and
(13:07):
so that should be that commitment. Low. I wouldn't call
it low commitment. I would call it high exploration, So
you're just exploring. You're just exploring, and then when you
go on that first date, you know what you're going
to get and you won't have that huge disappointment because
you've already had a phone conversation, you've already had a
coffee date, You're already like okay. And then the last
(13:30):
bit of advice I want to give is there's lots
of research to show that couples who have what they
call chemistry or high sexual energy at the beginning, that
does not predict relationship longevity. So give some of those
nice guys that you had a fun conversation with a
little bit of time, because the attraction part can grow.
(13:53):
It really can anything else that you can think that
you might have thought of. Ask me by any chance.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think for me, my age thing is the only
thing that I Sometimes I feel like guys who are
dating me knowing that I want to be married or
have children at thirty eight feel like I might be
in a rush.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well then I think, yeah, you know what those guys
need to do. Take a hike, because there is a
guy who's going to be so activated for you. He's
probably listening right now and he's going to go what
And he's forty two years old. He's in the same thing.
He was busy working and playing and having fun. And
he's like, I want a family now. All the colleagues
at work have wives, and I don't have one to
(14:40):
take to any function. And here's like a clean, nice
looking country girl. I want her and owns her own
business and her own house. Oh my god, there's somebody.
And here's the thing, Hayley, you only need one.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You don't have to worry.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
About the guys. Who cares about them? You only need one.
We have to go, but it's such a pleasure. Will
you keep in touch Let me know how it goes,
Semi dms on ig because I really, I swear I'm
on a hunt to find you the perfect man.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I appreciate it. I need all the help I can get.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
With Wendy Hailey Heckman, go to Rice, Rice and Beans
Collective at Rice and Bean's Collective on Instagram. Watch her
video her dating application. It's absolutely adorable. Keep in touch
with me because soon I'm going to have you and
your man on this radio show. I can tell thanks
for being with us. I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We'll be there okay, and you've
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Been listening to The Doctor Wendy Walls Show on kf
I Am six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
Welcome back to the Doctor Wendywell Show on KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm so
excited to invite my next guest on the show because
I fell in love with her on Instagram. No, I
didn't send her a DM and ask her out, not
like that. I just loved her posts, her profile, her honesty,
(00:22):
her authenticity. You know they say that good social media
is really about being real. Well, my next guest, her
name is Hailey Heckman, is more real than you can imagine.
Instead of going on dating apps, or maybe after going
on dating apps and finding problems, she created a post
(00:42):
called my dating application and it is the most adorable post.
Welcome Hailey Heckman.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi, Wendy, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So where First of all, where do you live?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I live in Boise, Idaho.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh you're in Boise, Idaho. Wonderful and yes, So if
I can just describe you a little bit into just
basic schema for people, because this is there listening with
their ears only. She is a very attractive young woman
in her thirties. She has a career in mental health
and addiction prevention. What does that mean? Prevention.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So I work with communities to provide dragon alcohol free
events to promote folks to seek mental health and also
promote suicide prevention awareness.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And in addition, she also has her own online vintage
business where you sell other people's trash and you turn
it into treasures.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Is that right? Sort of like that? Yes, And so
my niche that I've fallen into is vintage Western and
that I live out here in the West. Though it's
kind of it's pretty popular, and I'm seeing it more
in mainstream as well.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, so you don't know, but I have an airbnb
farm in Oregon and I had to decorate that barn
with all kinds of cool stuff that I should have
gone on to your site to find what I needed.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I can be your new source exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So let's talk about before we talk about what was
in your Instagram post, which now has one point four million.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Views, yes, correct.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And before you began how many followers did you have
when you put this out?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think around thirty thousand on my business page is
where I posted this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Thirty thousand and one point four million views. This is huge,
And we'll talk about the content of that post. But
I want to talk about first Where you were in
your life that made you decide to do this. Had
you been dating, were you just coming out of relationship?
Had you tried the dating apps? Set it up for me?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I actually had just moved here to Boise. I
lived in a much smaller town in Oregon, actually, and
I've been single for quite a few years, and since
I lived pretty remotely, I had tried dating apps, and
so a lot of that meant that I was dating
folks here in the Boise area, and so I just
(03:02):
I haven't had much luck and a lot of that
on the dating app. I just found that, you know,
I was wasting maybe is not a great word to use,
but a whole day, a whole tank of gas to
drive for a first date that maybe went nowhere. Communication
was lacking, commitment was lacking. I just didn't feel like
(03:24):
dating apps did a great job of kind of conveying
who I was, my personality, you know, I really did
that on my Instagram page. That's sort of how I
marketed myself. And so I kind of was like, I
should really utilize this thing that I've already kind of
grew from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So when you were deciding to create the post my
dating application. By the way, if people want to search
for it, how do they find it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
My business page is at Rice and Beans Collective, at.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Rice and Bean's Collective, and you will see it, I
hope you. Yet you pinned it to the top right, Yes,
I did at Rice and Beings Collective. Okay, So it's
very brave and very open. Tell me exactly what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So I have strategic photos.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
The great thing about owning my own businesses, and it's
a clothing business, primarily is that I had nice photos,
you know, to accompany this. But the context and the
content in that application, you know, some of it is
funny and lighthearted. But at the core of this dating
application is that I do truly want to find a partner.
(04:35):
I'm thirty eight years old, I've never been married, I
don't have kids. Those are things that I would like
in my life, and so I do talk about that
in the application. I talk about a general age range,
I talk about my job, that I'm a homeowner. Those
(04:55):
are sort of things that you would find on a
dating app application anyways. But then I mixed it a
little bit of humor, like references from an old boyfriend
or the fact that I have a hot mom. You know,
sometimes guys look at the mom of their girlfriend or
their fiancee and like think, oh, she's got good geens.
So I liked I like that I could kind of
(05:16):
add that personality in there that was truly me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And it is a slideshow, right, how many slides.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
In your set?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Show?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It is seven and she.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Looks like a beautiful girl in the west, cowboy hat
and all beautiful photography. As you said, and with some humor,
you say, my height is five to one, but my
personality is big enough to compensate for at least three
three inches. I love that talk about funny enough to
laugh at my own jokes and sometimes yours. Right, good jeans,
(05:49):
my mom's hot, because that's what men think. What is
her mom gonna you know, she gonna look like her
mom someday? And oh dear right. She talks about her
interests corn dogs and sushi, that's arranged, hiking, backpacking, hot springs,
making playlist, camping, et cetera. But then very clearly what
you're looking for, no current felony charges. I love that
you use the word current because you know I've had
(06:12):
guests on this show before who actually paid their dues,
serve their time, and they are the most discriminated against
on dating apps and most they're ten percent of men
in America have experienced incarceration. Ten percent of men in American. Well,
when you break it down by race and the injustices
(06:35):
of the system, blah blah blah, you'll see that it's
different depending on the races. But the vast majority of
that time served was for a non violent crime, and
many of them learned their lesson right, and so those
people are highly So you said no current felony charges.
I like that. You also say the ability to have
a real conversation without quoting Joe Rogan, a way to
(06:57):
kind of say, dudes, if you're one of those stay
away looking for someone who is open minded and likes
to learn, and someone likes to have a good time,
you know, guys like to hear that. And so her
references she puts for references. I love this quote, high risk,
high reward from a guy on hinge from an ex boyfriend.
(07:17):
Would have married her if I wasn't such a dumb
ass a man at yard sale. She smelled great, paid
in cash. This woman is adorable, Okay, aren't you falling on?
And I'm not even showing you all seven of the
slides and what she went through. You've got to go
to Rice and Beans Collective to hear that. If you're
on Instagram, make sure you go to Rice and Bean's
(07:38):
collective and look at this adorable young woman, Hailey Heckman,
who lives in boise Ida, Idaho. She's in her thirties,
She's got a career in mental health and addiction prevention.
She owns a successful online business, she owns her home,
and she decided to forego the dating apps because she
was having a hard time there and create her own
dating application online. And how many people have reached out
(08:01):
to you, Hailey?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So I have gotten so I just as you know, honestly,
probably to the minute. Forty days total i've had that
application of I don't know the total number of actual
men that have messaged me, but there's been a lot
of dms from very kind, thought provoking men. There's also been,
you know, quite a few that I won't mention here,
(08:26):
only one blocks account so far, and also a lot.
I want to give a shout out to moms and sisters.
They have been hyping up the men and sons and
brothers in their life as well, and so all of
those messages have led to I've got three first dates
(08:46):
so far, but I do want to point out that
I really have. I just moved to Boise, and I
moved here, and I want to be totally honest because
this is a place where there are more people than
where I used to live. I'm a single person in
a small town and that tends to be very hard
to meet people. So I really am right now interested
in meeting people in the general area of where I live.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And so the three first dates were kind of from
far away. Do they fly in for you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Nope, they were right here in Boise and they so
they all went good. There's only been one second date.
I'm still just trying to navigate when I feel like
a date goes good and then it doesn't go past that,
I'm still trying to figure that part out.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It doesn't go past night, they don't call and pursue
a second date, or because you're not so interested.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Both on the second date, that the second date person
was not interested in a third date. On the first date,
I think it just kind of fizzled out, which I
think happens, and then this last first date, I think
still pending on a second date, and I'm, you know,
in that gray area that we all hate to be.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You have to be in the land of unknowing for
a while, Hayley, and you have.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
To be like, hey, I'm not comfortable to be able.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
To contain yourself during that time and go, Okay, I'm
not a bad person. I'm just going to wait and see. Okay,
let me give you a little bit of dating advice.
It's going to help you with the forty more men
that are going to call you after this radio show hits. Okay, Uh,
First relationships do best when they lead with intimacy. When
I met by the way, I just got married in August,
(10:35):
and when I met my husband five years ago. I
we sat down for our little coffee date and I
said to him, you know, we could sit here and
tell each other just how fabulous we are, but why
don't we begin by telling each other why we think
we're completely undateable? And he said, okay, you go first,
(10:59):
which I did, and after I disclose some very personal things,
then he said okay, and he disclosed a very big
personal thing about him, and so we began our relationship
talking about intimate, vulnerable things, so nobody had to front,
nobody had to be cool, all that kind of stuff, right,
So I would say that I also am a big
(11:20):
believer in the coffee date first, because, like you said,
when you know, used half a tank of gas, got
dressed up and drove to far away to see people,
and what a disappointment it was. That happens to so
many people of all genders, by the way, and really
for you to just say, hey, just get on the phone. Oh,
get on the phone first. If they won't get on
the phone and even chat for five minutes, you should
(11:41):
not give them one minute of your in person time.
They don't deserve. They need to work for you just
a little bit. And if they're too afraid to get
on the phone, how are they going to handle your
big personality that's three inches taller than you. Right, So
get them on the phone. Just say hey, I'm not
a big texter. Here's my number if you want to call,
get a Google number if you want. If you don't
(12:02):
want to put out your real fine, fine, you know,
find a way to protect yourself technologically. You can do
that and then chat for a few minutes, and after
that first phone call, say to yourself, did that sound
like my husband? Do I want to meet this person?
And don't ghost them. But afterwards you might compose a
text that says, hey, just delight to chat with you.
Good luck at your cousin's wedding next week. I don't
(12:23):
think romance is in the cards for us, but I
really appreciate it your time, that's all you do. And
I did that to probably my own forty men before
I found my husband. And then go on that coffee
date and just say, hey, I'm really busy Tuesday, but
I have a quick thirty minutes here. If he's in
the same city, it's no big deal. And when you
show up, don't be over sexualized, which I can tell
(12:45):
by your pictures. You're a regular looking, gorgeous woman, So
I love this. So wear nice makeup, but not date makeup,
not overdone out to dinner makeup, and be a little
bit cash and just very just your authentic self. And
then from that, after that coffee you both know whether
you want to have a first date or not, and
(13:07):
so that should be that commitment. Low. I wouldn't call
it low commitment. I would call it high exploration, So
you're just exploring. You're just exploring, and then when you
go on that first date, you know what you're going
to get and you won't have that huge disappointment because
you've already had a phone conversation, you've already had a
coffee date, You're already like okay. And then the last
(13:30):
bit of advice I want to give is there's lots
of research to show that couples who have what they
call chemistry or high sexual energy at the beginning, that
does not predict relationship longevity. So give some of those
nice guys that you had a fun conversation with a
little bit of time, because the attraction part can grow.
(13:53):
It really can anything else that you can think that
you might have thought of. Ask me by any chance.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think for me, my age thing is the only
thing that I Sometimes I feel like guys who are
dating me knowing that I want to be married or
have children at thirty eight feel like I might be
in a rush.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well then I think, yeah, you know what those guys
need to do. Take a hike, because there is a
guy who's going to be so activated for you. He's
probably listening right now and he's going to go what
And he's forty two years old. He's in the same thing.
He was busy working and playing and having fun. And
he's like, I want a family now. All the colleagues
at work have wives, and I don't have one to
(14:40):
take to any function. And here's like a clean, nice
looking country girl. I want her and owns her own
business and her own house. Oh my god, there's somebody.
And here's the thing, Hayley, you only need one.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You don't have to worry.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
About the guys. Who cares about them? You only need one.
We have to go, but it's such a pleasure. Will
you keep in touch Let me know how it goes,
Semi dms on ig because I really, I swear I'm
on a hunt to find you the perfect man.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I appreciate it. I need all the help I can get.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
With Wendy Hailey Heckman, go to Rice, Rice and Beans
Collective at Rice and Bean's Collective on Instagram. Watch her
video her dating application. It's absolutely adorable. Keep in touch
with me because soon I'm going to have you and
your man on this radio show. I can tell thanks
for being with us. I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We'll be there okay, and you've
Speaker 1 (15:31):
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