October 4, 2025 • 34 mins
We are talking to the absolute legend Terri Hardin about her career, art, and some tips so you can do it too. Take a listen what she has done and what she has coming up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Neil Savandra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is the four Report. I'm your well fed host,
Neil Savandra. How do you do? Holding in my hand?
A book by my next guest, a very talented artist,
Pumpkin Carver And uh former imagineer with Disney, which is Disney?
(00:26):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I've been wondered that do you do you ever leave?
Or is it like once you have your like Seal
Team six or something. Once you have those abilities, they
call you back for projects.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Once an imagine, you're always an imagine well, of course,
but uh, yes, because I was very fast at what
I did, they would bring me back. And at one
point they asked me to come back and I said
I wasn't able to. I'll keep the reason why later,
but I was unable to. And so when I came,
I said, how can I be of service? And they said, well,
we'll bring in as a contractor and that allows me
(01:09):
to do what I do on the outside over here,
and then what do you need me? They just reach
out and say hey, are you free, and I say
yes or no. I call it the catbird seat.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, oh yeah, thats are great. And of course that
is the voice of Terry Harden, who is We had
her on last year around this time to talk about
pumpkin carving and the like. But you know, I've asked
my friend Derek to Derek Young to stay because he's
also a fan of Disney and the like and to
be able to sit and hang out with you as
(01:40):
a real treat as well. So when it comes to Disney,
you said that you were faster what you do. Every imagineer,
I imagine has to be sort of a universalist in the
sense that you have a bunch of skills, but you're
known for one. What's the skill that they lean on
you for.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally and sculptor
of hard foam, and that means the floral foam that
you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I know
you know this, there's different grades. He knows that he's
like the two and the gold foam is the four
(02:19):
pound phone man. The white foam is the six pound foam.
But each one is for carving. And one of the
things that many companies realize because I had been doing
it for the film industry for so long, and they'd
bring in the green foam. And when you carve the
green foam, it creates static, which means it gets all
over you, which means you try to spray yourself off,
(02:39):
and then you go home and someone who's unsuspecting and
loves you and cares about you gets it in their eye.
It's like glass. So I would come in and say,
if you are willing to invest in the gold, the
gold falls to the ground. And Disney said, this is fantastic.
We don't need to wear suits, we don't have to
try and spray off all we all we have to
(03:00):
do is carve it. So that's how a lot of
the gold foam came in.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And that's that's an expertise that you that only comes
from getting that crap in your eye. I mean, really,
it's only once you use any material and you start
learning its limitations and your lamentations with it is when
you become an expert. So what was do you remember
the very first thing you ever carved out of foam.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my dragons Layer. So
underneath the castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(03:43):
are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Aren't we Disney. Don't we animate stuff? Why is it stone?
And I had to go to battle to fight for
it to be animated, and Tony Baxter, who was in charge,
the person I stood before, said Okay, we'll do it,
but you got to design the attraction. And I remember
in my heart I went, oh, but I just let
through the door. I tell everybody, go through that door.
(04:07):
Worry about how to do it later. Right, I would
have been, That's exactly what I did, Just go through
the door. I got this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, because you can't know if it's always, if
you're always going to be breaking new ground in some form,
and with a company like Disney, you have to. Then
you can't be sure of anything but yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I had never done an attraction before, but I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's not, but I will say, as someone who just
recently visited a couple of years ago, it's absolutely fantastic
and probably my favorite thing in the entire park.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's so I'm glad that you got to see it,
because it breaks my heart when people say, oh, I
went to Paris, and I say, do you see did
you see my dragon? And they said there's a dragon
in Paris? And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you do slap them hard? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh no, you got to go back to Paris now
and see the dragon And they're like, what do you mean?
I mean, you know, because people save up to go
to these places, you want to make sure they that
they see.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So were you at carving mccatts? Are you doing it
to scale? Are you creating that and fun?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Were we were carving models. I was first hired in
nineteen eighty seven, and it took them three months to
decide that I was someone that they wanted to have there.
Once I went there, they put me in what was
called the rock work division and we started carving big
Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that, the person
(05:41):
I was working with was not the easiest to get
along with, but they said, we think you're gregarious enough
you can do it. And I think the way we
ended up working together was I told him, you know,
we're equal level, and so if he doesn't want to
see me climb all over him when people of higher
authority want to hear about the attraction, then he needs
(06:03):
to enter. He needs to include me. He was just
a few days before me, and he said okay, And
then afterwards he really liked me and wanted me to
do the area where the queue and I said, no,
I'm I'm going to fight for dragons Layer because I
had seen it and said, I paid my penance, Now
I want good for you. I want to do And
I asked for dragons Lair and fought for it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone, though I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures meant rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring, And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they were, well, no, but it's can't be like
carving a face or carving. But what I realized was
when you're sculpting, most of the time you go from
(06:57):
A to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop
somewhere on your way to Z because that's where you
see God is God moments. Yeah, So, because if you
take it to the one hundred percent, it looks fake
and you can't do horsehead rock, you can't do papoose
rock because it looks fake. And that's when you realize
(07:18):
that you're going to have to back off of that
because you're not God. And I thought that was really liberating,
you know, learning to carve to a certain point and
then that's what kept it real. But if you went
too far, it was like ah ah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You get into that territory where your humanity is seen
more clearly, and you start going that looks like the
set of Star Trek. You're having a business complex, yes,
you know, never me. All right, it's the Fork or
Fort Nil Savadre. As we celebrate Halloween this month. Of
course we've got Terry Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress,
(07:57):
but also a book. This book I'm holding in my hands,
giggling pumpkin, Pumpkin that you were kind enough to bring
to me for my boy. And it's got some art
in here by you as well, Disney Imagineer at all,
all that wonderful stuff. And we'll come back and talk
about pumpkins and some more. So go know where you're.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
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and what a treat to have Terry back to the show.
She's a Disney Imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't you, Yes,
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this has been a tumultuous month because people started
wanting to book classes and then they would say, I'd say,
I like to provide the pumpkins so that everybody has
an equal chance of carving them. A lot of people
will go to a market and carve a pumpkin. If
you're a first timer, those market pumpkins can be the
devil and you would be trying to carve it, and
(09:31):
you'd feel like if you've done it, if it's your
first time, you feel it's you because that's what first
timers do. I can't carve this pumpkin the way I've
seen Terry do it. Why am I having so much trouble?
And if I'm there with you, I can say, because
that pumpkin is terrible. And what you need to do
is go to a pumpkin patch and find a couple
(09:52):
of pumpkins that are really, very very good for carving.
The dimensional carvings that you see on Outrageous pump which
is the show that I'm the judge on.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So do you have you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
Oh yeah, I want to say.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That it's not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get
you another one.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay. So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons, everything.
How do you how do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner and I don't like that,
(10:53):
so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victor and she has a lot of followers and
she reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass
and we're doing it next weekend. On the twelfth, she said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:14):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to answer your question, the easiest is
a white ghost, but not the kind you see at Walmart.
The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge, and
the problem is that it's more closer to a gourd
than it is a pumpkin. You want that super smooth
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white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that has
that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get what's
called a wolf wolf it has what appears to have
a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio from
pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes up
two thirds of the little bitty punkin underneath, or the
(11:56):
size of the pumpkin if it's a basketball it has
like a three inch or a two and a half inch.
Then that looks like a tree drunk. So you know
that that's a wolf and that's the easiest way to
identify it. Go to a patch and if you don't know, ask,
But these classic jack lantern ones are completely designed and
created for jack Landers for carving a hole and putting
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a light inside. But this technique that I teach and
many have seen is to carve like the show and
do faces and monsters and all kinds skulls.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The flesh, the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
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do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're gonna
get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to think of.
You hit something and then all of a sudden, it's
like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Up to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, with his wife, there are only happy accents. Be okay,
he did.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That, my dad, God rest his soul was an artist too.
He said, use your mistakes. Until I got into tattooing.
I'm like, that is easy. The whole key is not
to have them in this case. And do you let
the I don't know, not to get sappy, but do
you let the pumpkin shape speak to you as far
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as how you're gonna what you're gonna put on it?
Or do you go in with, you know, looking for
a pumpkin that fits something that's in your head already.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:19):
They've seen pumpkins on the internet they want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm going to catch it
from some of my outrageous pumpkins contestants because they do
one thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem
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with that is the beginner we'll look over at the
person next to them and go, oh, mine's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't they
won't go any further. So I can't have that in
my class, with everyone doing something different that they're passionate about. Yes,
it's hard to work for me as a teacher. I'm
leaping around with a leprechaut. But they're so much happier
(15:02):
when they're done, and they never look at someone else
and say that person is doing better than me, because
they're all different.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I love that, and that's a superior teaching method. And
it's a pain in the ass, like what you said,
I but it is because of the fact that, unlike
our school system that tries to fit everybody into one mold,
you teach people on the level and the desire and
the passion of the individual. We'll talk more. Can you
(15:29):
stick around?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Let's talk all right with Terry Harden. She is a
Disney imagineer. She is a pumpkin carver. She is a
delight and an artist and a kindred spirit, and we'll
talk more about pumpkin carving when we return on the
Fork Report.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevadra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff. So, uh,
it just is I love this time of year, and
so we're making sure each show is chalk filled with
(16:12):
holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins. And obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
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pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
you know, methods, but I never thought that there's a
species or a type of pumpkin that I should be
looking for even though I've carved a gorge and you
(16:56):
know or you know having this, you know a squash
which is the same family and everything, and the flesh
is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so. The wolf, the wolf with
the big step.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Easy ones, but like on the show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Holy that's small.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's lovely about these and I try to get them
for beginners. Is the wall is about four inches thick.
When you take the covering off, you have four inches
of depth to play with. And this was usually the
pumpkins I would carve for shows like True Blood or
Desperate Housewives or many of them. Many people would have
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me carve them for parties and stuff, and I would
always say, you know, I can carve it for you,
but take my video and take my tools and I'll
teach you how to do it. In the class, this
is only like a hundred bucks instead of five or
six to have me do it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So it's and my Patreon page, which is something that
is just great because people it's the one place they
can find me live and live. We do a call
each week on my Patreon page, and this is something
that they all love to do. So we tried to
get together and do it. This year's been a little
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bit crazier than usual because we lost the location that
we were going to do it at. But I said,
you know, so now we've relocated to a place in
see Me Valley and we're going to do it on Wednesday,
the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and I will
provide the pumpkin and they will be a smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow. I love that. God bless Patreon. I'm got to
tell you something about artistry. This could be actors, singers, performers, artists.
So there was always a gatekeeper, so someone made money
off of the artist, thry for you to do what
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you do. Patreon moves that out of the way and
allows those of us that love what artists do to
directly pay to them. Of course, Patreon takes its portion
or what have you but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh,
you can only do your art if you do it
through our system and we get the cut. Whether it's
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you know, recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever.
That owning your own craft is important, and it's one
of the reasons why I do what I can to
support artists that I enjoy because you know, so I
love that you're on Patreon as.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, and even as well, you can still do well
on it because people find you and they say, you know,
I want to support what you're doing. I want to
support the support you're giving and stuff like that. And
I have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page and
all of that. It's best just to google my name.
It's easier. Terry Harden dot com is my website. But
(20:08):
Patreon is a place that I've decided as I work
towards semi retirement, no artist ever retires, that that's where
I'm going to be live. So if you want to
talk to me live, that's where you're going to be
able to do it. Unless I'm at a venue like
these sure courses and classes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I love it, so there's got to be someone listening that,
and I don't just mean that, by the way, Kayla,
there's got to be someone listening. I know that there's
people that there's got to be I'm sorry, I want
to say something from there's we know there's people listening.
(20:44):
My point being that that are looking to get into
carving pumpkins, You've told them what kind of pumpkins they
should look into. What are the tools because it can
also be dangerous too, because the sticky nature of the
flesh and the sharp blade and all of that. So
what's the best tools to carve with.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well now and untrageous pumpkins? The pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
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tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terry arn dot com click on online store, and then
you can say.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's cool, so that's what they need.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I've teaked about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting,
they're going to see these tools and go, I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is and you know. And they're made by Kemper.
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them up,
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and so I didn't get to lose I didn't have
to lose those tools. I'm very, very fun.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Doesn't that stink? When things change or don't change hands
and they go away and nobody picks up the legacy
or the molds or the techniques or those types of things.
That's very frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and
once you find something you love.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And this is a beautiful tool. It's made in the USA.
I've carved with it since it was about twenty fifteen,
twenty years old. So I was devastated when I heard
it might not have you know, it wasn't going to
go away. It was gonna go a wait. I think
everybody was buying a big amount of them, and then
Sculpture How stepped in and said, we're going to adopt it,
so it's still good, it's still there. You don't have
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to rely on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You
can actually get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're
going to do right by you, and they really are
wonderful for carving pumpkins.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to
like you about.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Some of the my some of my students want to
stencil because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it
out with Kimber makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a
tiny tool, and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool.
So you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing. And if
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you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger Kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that
really and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in more Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Farms under I was just looking up. I think it's
underwood farms and we can.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
See these ghosts. They're about the size of a large
medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes when you take the
white off of it, they are like a casaba mel
and they're white or they're peach, and peach is like
winning at the lottery because they're just beautiful peach color
in the daylight. But then when they're lit you get
all of that as well. But the closer you go
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to the light, the brighter the light. So you think
of a hole in a jack lantern. And then anywhere
from the outside where it can be black to and
then between that that stectrum and you can really create
some wonderful things. And lighting them is really good because
your beginner is going to carve and they're gonna feel
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You'll always get one person you're asking, you know do
you You have to kind of coax them along. And
I had one woman. She cried the whole time she
was and I said to her, I say, you're only
an inch deep. You have three inches to go. Let's
fix this. It's fine, You're just not far enough. And
then when we took it into a booth and we
put a light in it, she cried because she couldn't
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believe how gorgeous it was. So it was just someone
who just had heard that voice that people often say
to you, which is, don't quit your day job. What's
that supposed to share? What makes you think you're an artist?
Don't let someone else tell you what you can do
and how you can do it. And I do the
pumpkins to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're
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just listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh yeah, I've been deaf to those voices forever. Derek
and I were talking about those today, about people who
feel the need. I mean, when you're public in any
way obviously a YouTube channel or whatever, there's comment sections, whatever.
Thirty years plus of doing talk radio, trust me, I'm
so calloused when people say things. I'm just like, wow,
(26:01):
I apologize if I did anything that made you think
I cared about your opinion, if that was wrong of
me to imply that it's important to me. If you
have you know, if somebody steps out and said, hey,
I heard you say this, and the confused me, that's
a different thing. I said, no, no, no, that's not
what I meant, or you know, that's not really me.
I'm playing a character of poking around with people I
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work with, just the same way you would it your
work or things like that, they clarify. But the people
that sit there in a dark room somewhere in their
mom's basement and try and tell me, I'm like, brother,
where were you when I was climbing this pole in
the first place? But that is really I love that,
And Terry, it's always a real treat to take some
(26:43):
time and chat with you. Please make sure that you
give all the information for people to be able to
find you again. Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, Terry Harden dot com is a good place to
start because from there you can go to my Instagram page,
which is Terry Harden Legend. You can go over to
the YouTube channel which is just put it in there
under Terry Harden. It really is best to google because
there's two Wikipedia pages. Someone has done a dulsier on
me that's like twenty four pages long. Wow, and I
(27:11):
was amazed at how much I had done when I
read it, and I was like, this is kind of
fun that someone else decided to do this. I guess
others would think it was a stalker, but honestly, I
really did love that they.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Seriously, I double think that whole stalker thing. That's a
good puff. Anybody wrote twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Pages, and it really has done me well because there
are places that want me to speak at schools and things.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh that one.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'll do it a bio that's short, and I'll say
I have this one that's twenty four pages long, and
they go, let me have that one, and they'll actually
read through the whole thing. So it's I think the
main thing is that if someone is out there and
they're worried that their topic is to everybody's talking about
it and whatever. Just remember you you are your unique
(27:58):
self sure, and you always have something to add to
the conversation. So please, if you want to do a
YouTube channel, if you want to, you know, talk on
the Instagram or whatever, just do it because you'll find that,
even if nobody's listening, it's a good vent point for you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, huh yeah, do it for yourself first, and people
can figure out what to do with it after my.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Opinion out in the airwaves.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Let's see if anybody's listening stick around. We'll have one
final segment as we as we usher in Tiffany Hobbs,
who comes up at five o'clock, we'll chat just a
little bit more. I think what a twenty five page
Wikipedia page on me would be. Neil's been in radio
for a very very very very very very very very
(28:44):
very very how many pages, very very very AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You're listening to the Fork Report with nilsa Adra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
My YouTube but YouTube is it's Terry. You can do
Terry harden slash. It's Terry. I do my best to
do a broadcast every Monday and just talk about the
upcoming news like the figure from of Walt Disney was
one of the later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
(29:17):
Then then there's the instag you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it's very lovely that you keep yourself so accessible
to other creatives and people that want to learn. Thanks
for taking time to come on. It's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you for asking me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you for of course you're a perennial.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Times a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have to do two things already on my in
my car, so when I use his car, I don't
have to search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's lots we like to hear. And what you'll be
listening to on your way home is this next lady,
Tiffany Hobbs. How are you?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm well, you have two so cow legends in here, Terry.
I'm I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck following Neil
because he has the best guests. But no one has
ever come in here with that jacket that you have here,
Terry with the soles on it. You can leave that
(30:28):
behind you as a partying gift for your love for the.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Station design myself. Please, that is inredible.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh my god, but I'm well, how are you, Neil?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I hello, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Hi. Yeah, No, it's this is leading into your show.
This is where we do the handshake. Yes, and you
grab the baton and hopefully not drop it. No, I
never do. I enjoy your show. And I told you
when I saw you today that I'm very proud of you.
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
(31:05):
and thought. It's very easy to be ejaculatory and needs
on the station. And I like thinkers. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I like to think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I put the.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Socowhaunt list dot Com into my phone because I love
a good haunt. I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I love it. I love I don't know. I love
make believe. And the more real you can make it,
the more I suspend disbelief, the better and I love that.
So what's going on tonight on the Tiffany h Speaking of.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Real things, we have quite a few updates about some
huge stories in the news. Of course, Sean Diddycomb's was sentenced,
So I'll tell you about what happened in the courtroom yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
More like a phrase than sentence more.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
That's abbreviation at this point, but he will do some time.
And as you've been hearing, former USC quarterback Mark Sanchez
was stabbed.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
What now is right? And now he's around it the Yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Some crazy twists and turns to this story. So I
have some of the details as they continue to unfold,
because this is an ever unfolding situation. We're going to
talk about kind of the blowback from the Chevron refinery fire.
What does it mean for your gas prices? That's definitely
the question on everybody everyone's minds. No fatalities, no injuries, luckily,
(32:33):
but what will happen to gas prices? Costco is going
to be stocking their shelves with something that could change
your life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'll tell you what that is.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And I fully expect Bill to do this story on
Monday because it's a Costco story and he loves his Costco,
so I'll share the details therein keep listening and deep dive.
At six o'clock, we're going to get into why kids
can't read anymore. It's a lot to this, and then
after six thirty a pair of AI and Chat GPT
(33:02):
stories that will undoubtedly terrify you. Speaking of haunts and
speaking of real and speaking of not real AI and
Chat GPT, all of those things are going to mesh
together for our final final pair of stories, Big Show.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Now that's guy and everybody else is talking weird with
all these full sentences and syntax and all that stuff. Weird.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Seriously, or as the kids would say, before GTA six. Ok, Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Always good to see you. I will be listening and
have a wonderful show thanks to my wonderful guest to
be Halloween and we will catch you again next week.
Have empathy, be kind to each other. It's free. This
is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. You've
been listening to the Fork Report. You can always hear
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us live on KFI AM six forty two to five
pm on Saturday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Hey, it's Neil Savandra. You're listening to kfi EM six
forty the four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is the four Report. I'm your well fed host,
Neil Savandra. How do you do? Holding in my hand?
A book by my next guest, a very talented artist,
Pumpkin Carver And uh former imagineer with Disney, which is Disney?
(00:26):
Are you do you still do work with them?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm a Camier Camier get Away get Away imagineer. Well,
when they need me, they call me, and when they don't,
they put me back in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I've been wondered that do you do you ever leave?
Or is it like once you have your like Seal
Team six or something. Once you have those abilities, they
call you back for projects.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Once an imagine, you're always an imagine well, of course,
but uh, yes, because I was very fast at what
I did, they would bring me back. And at one
point they asked me to come back and I said
I wasn't able to. I'll keep the reason why later,
but I was unable to. And so when I came,
I said, how can I be of service? And they said, well,
we'll bring in as a contractor and that allows me
(01:09):
to do what I do on the outside over here,
and then what do you need me? They just reach
out and say hey, are you free, and I say
yes or no. I call it the catbird seat.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, oh yeah, thats are great. And of course that
is the voice of Terry Harden, who is We had
her on last year around this time to talk about
pumpkin carving and the like. But you know, I've asked
my friend Derek to Derek Young to stay because he's
also a fan of Disney and the like and to
be able to sit and hang out with you as
(01:40):
a real treat as well. So when it comes to Disney,
you said that you were faster what you do. Every imagineer,
I imagine has to be sort of a universalist in the
sense that you have a bunch of skills, but you're
known for one. What's the skill that they lean on
you for.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They brought me in as a sculptor originally and sculptor
of hard foam, and that means the floral foam that
you often put flowers in. There's different grades. I know
you know this, there's different grades. He knows that he's
like the two and the gold foam is the four
(02:19):
pound phone man. The white foam is the six pound foam.
But each one is for carving. And one of the
things that many companies realize because I had been doing
it for the film industry for so long, and they'd
bring in the green foam. And when you carve the
green foam, it creates static, which means it gets all
over you, which means you try to spray yourself off,
(02:39):
and then you go home and someone who's unsuspecting and
loves you and cares about you gets it in their eye.
It's like glass. So I would come in and say,
if you are willing to invest in the gold, the
gold falls to the ground. And Disney said, this is fantastic.
We don't need to wear suits, we don't have to
try and spray off all we all we have to
(03:00):
do is carve it. So that's how a lot of
the gold foam came in.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And that's that's an expertise that you that only comes
from getting that crap in your eye. I mean, really,
it's only once you use any material and you start
learning its limitations and your lamentations with it is when
you become an expert. So what was do you remember
the very first thing you ever carved out of foam.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Big Thunder Mountain I did for Disney. That was the
thing for Big Thunder Paris was the first thing. And
then I went to battle for my dragons Layer. So
underneath the castle in Paris there's a dragon, thirty five
foot dragon that is animated and roars and breezes fire.
And originally it was going to be stone, and I went,
(03:43):
are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Aren't we Disney. Don't we animate stuff? Why is it stone?
And I had to go to battle to fight for
it to be animated, and Tony Baxter, who was in charge,
the person I stood before, said Okay, we'll do it,
but you got to design the attraction. And I remember
in my heart I went, oh, but I just let
through the door. I tell everybody, go through that door.
(04:07):
Worry about how to do it later. Right, I would
have been, That's exactly what I did, Just go through
the door. I got this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, because you can't know if it's always, if
you're always going to be breaking new ground in some form,
and with a company like Disney, you have to. Then
you can't be sure of anything but yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I had never done an attraction before, but I
said to myself, if it's one thing I do know,
it's dragons. So I said, I'll just go in and
I'll make it for myself. And it became one of
the most popular attractions in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Even though it's not really an attraction. Everyone will day
it's not really attraction.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's not, but I will say, as someone who just
recently visited a couple of years ago, it's absolutely fantastic
and probably my favorite thing in the entire park.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's so I'm glad that you got to see it,
because it breaks my heart when people say, oh, I
went to Paris, and I say, do you see did
you see my dragon? And they said there's a dragon
in Paris? And it just crushes you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you do slap them hard? Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh no, you got to go back to Paris now
and see the dragon And they're like, what do you mean?
I mean, you know, because people save up to go
to these places, you want to make sure they that
they see.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So were you at carving mccatts? Are you doing it
to scale? Are you creating that and fun?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Were we were carving models. I was first hired in
nineteen eighty seven, and it took them three months to
decide that I was someone that they wanted to have there.
Once I went there, they put me in what was
called the rock work division and we started carving big
Thunder Mountain. And while we were doing that, the person
(05:41):
I was working with was not the easiest to get
along with, but they said, we think you're gregarious enough
you can do it. And I think the way we
ended up working together was I told him, you know,
we're equal level, and so if he doesn't want to
see me climb all over him when people of higher
authority want to hear about the attraction, then he needs
(06:03):
to enter. He needs to include me. He was just
a few days before me, and he said okay, And
then afterwards he really liked me and wanted me to
do the area where the queue and I said, no,
I'm I'm going to fight for dragons Layer because I
had seen it and said, I paid my penance, Now
I want good for you. I want to do And
I asked for dragons Lair and fought for it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
See, I'm fascinated by carving stone, though I mean carving
anything organic that has to make me believe that it's
real for part of the entertainment. To me, that's a
that's a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You bring up a really good point. So here's the thing.
Most most sculptures meant rocks. You have to carve rocks.
How boring, And I said, have you ever carved rocks?
And they were, well, no, but it's can't be like
carving a face or carving. But what I realized was
when you're sculpting, most of the time you go from
(06:57):
A to Z to carve rocks, you have to stop
somewhere on your way to Z because that's where you
see God is God moments. Yeah, So, because if you
take it to the one hundred percent, it looks fake
and you can't do horsehead rock, you can't do papoose
rock because it looks fake. And that's when you realize
(07:18):
that you're going to have to back off of that
because you're not God. And I thought that was really liberating,
you know, learning to carve to a certain point and
then that's what kept it real. But if you went
too far, it was like ah ah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You get into that territory where your humanity is seen
more clearly, and you start going that looks like the
set of Star Trek. You're having a business complex, yes,
you know, never me. All right, it's the Fork or
Fort Nil Savadre. As we celebrate Halloween this month. Of
course we've got Terry Harden here master pumpkin carver and sculptress,
(07:57):
but also a book. This book I'm holding in my hands,
giggling pumpkin, Pumpkin that you were kind enough to bring
to me for my boy. And it's got some art
in here by you as well, Disney Imagineer at all,
all that wonderful stuff. And we'll come back and talk
about pumpkins and some more. So go know where you're.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Listening to The Fork Report with Nil Savedra on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Chatting with Terry Harden on the Fork Report right now.
And of course I'm always thrilled to talk with creatives
on the show, whether it's talking about food or right
now talking about the you know, the Halloween season and
participating in making food, creating you know, fun elements, whether
you're decorating the house on the inside, decorating on the outside,
(08:49):
and what a treat to have Terry back to the show.
She's a Disney Imagineer, a sculptor, an artist, and she
loves pumpkin carving. And this is you know, this is
your super Bowl season two because you do a lot
of classes and teach people how to carve pumpkins, don't you, Yes,
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this has been a tumultuous month because people started
wanting to book classes and then they would say, I'd say,
I like to provide the pumpkins so that everybody has
an equal chance of carving them. A lot of people
will go to a market and carve a pumpkin. If
you're a first timer, those market pumpkins can be the
devil and you would be trying to carve it, and
(09:31):
you'd feel like if you've done it, if it's your
first time, you feel it's you because that's what first
timers do. I can't carve this pumpkin the way I've
seen Terry do it. Why am I having so much trouble?
And if I'm there with you, I can say, because
that pumpkin is terrible. And what you need to do
is go to a pumpkin patch and find a couple
(09:52):
of pumpkins that are really, very very good for carving.
The dimensional carvings that you see on Outrageous pump which
is the show that I'm the judge on.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So do you have you really looked in someone's eyes
and said, darling, it's not you, it's the pumpkin. Oh yeah,
Oh yeah, I want to say.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That it's not you, it's the pumpkins. Here, let's get
you another one.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Okay. So is there a way? I mean, people are
I've tested every theory about choosing produce and watermelons, everything.
How do you how do you pick a good pumpkin
for carving?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Don't go to the supermarket, don't go to Walmart, don't
go to a cheap place where they probably ordered them
from Mexico. No offense to Mexico, but Mexico has a
variety of pumpkin that is a lot like celery, and
if your tool catches it, it rips the pumpkin in half.
This is devastating for a beginner and I don't like that,
(10:53):
so I always so this year I had to say,
I'm doing a class up in Santa Anna with the
Vogel Victor and she has a lot of followers and
she reached out to me and we're doing a masterclass
and we're doing it next weekend. On the twelfth, she said,
we're going to have to tell them to get their
own pumpkins because I want to make the price in August.
(11:14):
And I said, the pumpkins aren't available, they won't price
them yet. So to answer your question, the easiest is
a white ghost, but not the kind you see at Walmart.
The white ghosts have a shape and a ridge, and
the problem is that it's more closer to a gourd
than it is a pumpkin. You want that super smooth
(11:35):
white ghost that looks almost like a cassaba that has
that smooth, smooth feel, or you want to get what's
called a wolf wolf it has what appears to have
a tree trunk growing out of it. The ratio from
pumpkin to stem is ridiculous, like the stem takes up
two thirds of the little bitty punkin underneath, or the
(11:56):
size of the pumpkin if it's a basketball it has
like a three inch or a two and a half inch.
Then that looks like a tree drunk. So you know
that that's a wolf and that's the easiest way to
identify it. Go to a patch and if you don't know, ask,
But these classic jack lantern ones are completely designed and
created for jack Landers for carving a hole and putting
(12:18):
a light inside. But this technique that I teach and
many have seen is to carve like the show and
do faces and monsters and all kinds skulls.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
The flesh, the meat of the pumpkins different. Yeah, wow,
that is Those are great tips because people will call
me all the time about you know, I went and
got a pumpkin to try and make pumpkin pie from scratch,
and I said, oh, no, that's a different pumpkin. You know,
those sugar pumpkins are different, and that you can't just
(12:52):
do it with a store pumpkin because they are bred
differently for different uses. I wouldn't cook with them to
begin with. But I never thought that carving you're gonna
get in the celery. God, that sounds horrible to think of.
You hit something and then all of a sudden, it's
like pulling a zipper.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Now, my husband was carving with me and this happened.
It was like a zipper and then he took thread
and he stitched it back.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Up to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, with his wife, there are only happy accents. Be okay,
he did.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That, my dad, God rest his soul was an artist too.
He said, use your mistakes. Until I got into tattooing.
I'm like, that is easy. The whole key is not
to have them in this case. And do you let
the I don't know, not to get sappy, but do
you let the pumpkin shape speak to you as far
(13:49):
as how you're gonna what you're gonna put on it?
Or do you go in with, you know, looking for
a pumpkin that fits something that's in your head already.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It kind of depends on the pumpkin, It depends on
the class. I try to get people to do a face, eyes, nose, mouth,
teeth or no teeth, angry or not angry, because then
I can teach you the techniques and then you can
carve it. Learn the techniques, and then you can go
off and carve another one with whatever you want. But
most of the people that come to my class have
an idea. They want to do a lot of Disney stuff.
(14:19):
They've seen pumpkins on the internet they want to do,
and my goal is to teach them, you know, to
do what picture they're doing. Because one of the things
I hate about classes, and I'm going to catch it
from some of my outrageous pumpkins contestants because they do
one thing and then they teach everybody. But the problem
(14:40):
with that is the beginner we'll look over at the
person next to them and go, oh, mine's not that good,
and they'll put the tool down and they won't they
won't go any further. So I can't have that in
my class, with everyone doing something different that they're passionate about. Yes,
it's hard to work for me as a teacher. I'm
leaping around with a leprechaut. But they're so much happier
(15:02):
when they're done, and they never look at someone else
and say that person is doing better than me, because
they're all different.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I love that, and that's a superior teaching method. And
it's a pain in the ass, like what you said,
I but it is because of the fact that, unlike
our school system that tries to fit everybody into one mold,
you teach people on the level and the desire and
the passion of the individual. We'll talk more. Can you
(15:29):
stick around?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Let's talk all right with Terry Harden. She is a
Disney imagineer. She is a pumpkin carver. She is a
delight and an artist and a kindred spirit, and we'll
talk more about pumpkin carving when we return on the
Fork Report.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You're listening to The Fork Report with Nil Sevadra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thanks for hanging out with us today. The holidays are
upon us, and of course I'm a big fan of Halloween,
and then Thanksgiving is you know, foodies uniting to be
thankful via food, and then Christmas and all that stuff. So, uh,
it just is I love this time of year, and
so we're making sure each show is chalk filled with
(16:12):
holiday stuff. And we talked about building props for a
haunt if you want to do that in your front yard.
We're talking right now with Terry Harden. She's an imagineer
for Disney and she is a sculptor and an artist,
and she teaches people how to carve pumpkins. And obviously
she just taught us how to even pick the right
(16:33):
pumpkin for carving. I never thought about that. And I've
carved pumpkins before, and I've experimented with all kinds of different,
you know, methods, but I never thought that there's a
species or a type of pumpkin that I should be
looking for even though I've carved a gorge and you
(16:56):
know or you know having this, you know a squash
which is the same family and everything, and the flesh
is different, yes, and that you know you could tell,
but I never thought so. The wolf, the wolf with
the big step.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Easy ones, but like on the show of Outrageous Pumpkins,
there's a great one if you can find it, mostly
at patches, called the big mac or the prize winner.
Now a lot of times prize winners grow really really huge,
but a big mac can be about one hundred, two
hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Holy that's small.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's lovely about these and I try to get them
for beginners. Is the wall is about four inches thick.
When you take the covering off, you have four inches
of depth to play with. And this was usually the
pumpkins I would carve for shows like True Blood or
Desperate Housewives or many of them. Many people would have
(17:49):
me carve them for parties and stuff, and I would
always say, you know, I can carve it for you,
but take my video and take my tools and I'll
teach you how to do it. In the class, this
is only like a hundred bucks instead of five or
six to have me do it.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Wow, that's super cool.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
So it's and my Patreon page, which is something that
is just great because people it's the one place they
can find me live and live. We do a call
each week on my Patreon page, and this is something
that they all love to do. So we tried to
get together and do it. This year's been a little
(18:28):
bit crazier than usual because we lost the location that
we were going to do it at. But I said,
you know, so now we've relocated to a place in
see Me Valley and we're going to do it on Wednesday,
the twenty ninth, and it's eighty dollars and I will
provide the pumpkin and they will be a smaller big mac.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Wow. I love that. God bless Patreon. I'm got to
tell you something about artistry. This could be actors, singers, performers, artists.
So there was always a gatekeeper, so someone made money
off of the artist, thry for you to do what
(19:07):
you do. Patreon moves that out of the way and
allows those of us that love what artists do to
directly pay to them. Of course, Patreon takes its portion
or what have you but there's no gatekeepers anymore that says, oh,
you can only do your art if you do it
through our system and we get the cut. Whether it's
(19:28):
you know, recording artists, whether it's actors or writers or whatever.
That owning your own craft is important, and it's one
of the reasons why I do what I can to
support artists that I enjoy because you know, so I
love that you're on Patreon as.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, and even as well, you can still do well
on it because people find you and they say, you know,
I want to support what you're doing. I want to
support the support you're giving and stuff like that. And
I have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page and
all of that. It's best just to google my name.
It's easier. Terry Harden dot com is my website. But
(20:08):
Patreon is a place that I've decided as I work
towards semi retirement, no artist ever retires, that that's where
I'm going to be live. So if you want to
talk to me live, that's where you're going to be
able to do it. Unless I'm at a venue like
these sure courses and classes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I love it, so there's got to be someone listening that,
and I don't just mean that, by the way, Kayla,
there's got to be someone listening. I know that there's
people that there's got to be I'm sorry, I want
to say something from there's we know there's people listening.
(20:44):
My point being that that are looking to get into
carving pumpkins, You've told them what kind of pumpkins they
should look into. What are the tools because it can
also be dangerous too, because the sticky nature of the
flesh and the sharp blade and all of that. So
what's the best tools to carve with.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Well now and untrageous pumpkins? The pros use all different
kinds of tools, including knives and chainsaws and all kinds
of crazies. Sure, but for the beginner, you can use
a ceramic sculpting tool, which is a loop tool that
is often used in ceramics. The difference is it has
a beveled edge, so it's not a soft tool. It's
got edges on it. And I have a set of
(21:23):
tools you can buy at my store by going to
Terry arn dot com click on online store, and then
you can say.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's cool, so that's what they need.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I've teaked about four if you don't know, but
a lot of people who do sculpting or ceramics sculpting,
they're going to see these tools and go, I have
a set right here. You know, you may not want
to gum them up with pumpkin, but you know what
it is and you know. And they're made by Kemper.
And we almost lost Kemper, but Sculpture House picked them up,
(21:54):
and so I didn't get to lose I didn't have
to lose those tools. I'm very, very fun.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Doesn't that stink? When things change or don't change hands
and they go away and nobody picks up the legacy
or the molds or the techniques or those types of things.
That's very frustrating because artists are a picky bunch and
once you find something you love.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And this is a beautiful tool. It's made in the USA.
I've carved with it since it was about twenty fifteen,
twenty years old. So I was devastated when I heard
it might not have you know, it wasn't going to
go away. It was gonna go a wait. I think
everybody was buying a big amount of them, and then
Sculpture How stepped in and said, we're going to adopt it,
so it's still good, it's still there. You don't have
(22:36):
to rely on a cheap tool from somewhere else. You
can actually get those Kemper tools and they're gonna they're
going to do right by you, and they really are
wonderful for carving pumpkins.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you freehand on the pumpkin? If so, what kind
of marker or do you use? And then two, is
there stencils or anything that a newbie would want to
like you about.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Some of the my some of my students want to
stencil because they feel comfortable. I'll usually just map it
out with Kimber makes a mini ribbon tool. It's a
tiny tool, and once you've taken the skin off, you can,
by the way you use it, draw with that tool.
So you can dig in about a I'd say a
sixteenth of an inch to do your drawing. And if
(23:19):
you don't like it, then you take one of the
bigger Kemper tools and scrape it off. Because remember you've
got walls that are two inches or four inches, so
scraping it off isn't going to do much to the
thickness of your pumpkins. So you can do it several
times and really get that depth and all of that
really and then I light mine, which okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's my next question. So lighting them, you have to
think and reverse. The thinner the wall, the brighter the
light is going to shine through the thicker the wall
is going to be your shadows.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yes, and they are gorgeous. You get roses and peach color.
And if you get certain ghosts, like there's a farm
in more Park which I can't remember the name of it,
but they have ghosts, and some of the ghosts when
you take the flesh off, are peach or pink underwood underwood.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Farms under I was just looking up. I think it's
underwood farms and we can.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
See these ghosts. They're about the size of a large
medicine ball or basketball. And sometimes when you take the
white off of it, they are like a casaba mel
and they're white or they're peach, and peach is like
winning at the lottery because they're just beautiful peach color
in the daylight. But then when they're lit you get
all of that as well. But the closer you go
(24:35):
to the light, the brighter the light. So you think
of a hole in a jack lantern. And then anywhere
from the outside where it can be black to and
then between that that stectrum and you can really create
some wonderful things. And lighting them is really good because
your beginner is going to carve and they're gonna feel
(24:57):
You'll always get one person you're asking, you know do
you You have to kind of coax them along. And
I had one woman. She cried the whole time she
was and I said to her, I say, you're only
an inch deep. You have three inches to go. Let's
fix this. It's fine, You're just not far enough. And
then when we took it into a booth and we
put a light in it, she cried because she couldn't
(25:18):
believe how gorgeous it was. So it was just someone
who just had heard that voice that people often say
to you, which is, don't quit your day job. What's
that supposed to share? What makes you think you're an artist?
Don't let someone else tell you what you can do
and how you can do it. And I do the
pumpkins to help everyone realize that they are artists. You're
(25:39):
just listening to the wrong voice.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh yeah, I've been deaf to those voices forever. Derek
and I were talking about those today, about people who
feel the need. I mean, when you're public in any
way obviously a YouTube channel or whatever, there's comment sections, whatever.
Thirty years plus of doing talk radio, trust me, I'm
so calloused when people say things. I'm just like, wow,
(26:01):
I apologize if I did anything that made you think
I cared about your opinion, if that was wrong of
me to imply that it's important to me. If you
have you know, if somebody steps out and said, hey,
I heard you say this, and the confused me, that's
a different thing. I said, no, no, no, that's not
what I meant, or you know, that's not really me.
I'm playing a character of poking around with people I
(26:22):
work with, just the same way you would it your
work or things like that, they clarify. But the people
that sit there in a dark room somewhere in their
mom's basement and try and tell me, I'm like, brother,
where were you when I was climbing this pole in
the first place? But that is really I love that,
And Terry, it's always a real treat to take some
(26:43):
time and chat with you. Please make sure that you
give all the information for people to be able to
find you again. Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, Terry Harden dot com is a good place to
start because from there you can go to my Instagram page,
which is Terry Harden Legend. You can go over to
the YouTube channel which is just put it in there
under Terry Harden. It really is best to google because
there's two Wikipedia pages. Someone has done a dulsier on
me that's like twenty four pages long. Wow, and I
(27:11):
was amazed at how much I had done when I
read it, and I was like, this is kind of
fun that someone else decided to do this. I guess
others would think it was a stalker, but honestly, I
really did love that they.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Seriously, I double think that whole stalker thing. That's a
good puff. Anybody wrote twenty four.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Pages, and it really has done me well because there
are places that want me to speak at schools and things.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh that one.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'll do it a bio that's short, and I'll say
I have this one that's twenty four pages long, and
they go, let me have that one, and they'll actually
read through the whole thing. So it's I think the
main thing is that if someone is out there and
they're worried that their topic is to everybody's talking about
it and whatever. Just remember you you are your unique
(27:58):
self sure, and you always have something to add to
the conversation. So please, if you want to do a
YouTube channel, if you want to, you know, talk on
the Instagram or whatever, just do it because you'll find that,
even if nobody's listening, it's a good vent point for you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, huh yeah, do it for yourself first, and people
can figure out what to do with it after my.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Opinion out in the airwaves.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Let's see if anybody's listening stick around. We'll have one
final segment as we as we usher in Tiffany Hobbs,
who comes up at five o'clock, we'll chat just a
little bit more. I think what a twenty five page
Wikipedia page on me would be. Neil's been in radio
for a very very very very very very very very
(28:44):
very very how many pages, very very very AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You're listening to the Fork Report with nilsa Adra on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
My YouTube but YouTube is it's Terry. You can do
Terry harden slash. It's Terry. I do my best to
do a broadcast every Monday and just talk about the
upcoming news like the figure from of Walt Disney was
one of the later ones I did as I discussed that, gotcha. Yeah.
(29:17):
Then then there's the instag you know Instagram, which is
Terry Harden legend. So the best thing to do is
to google and then it'll come through and tell you
and then write to me if you have questions at
Terry at Terry Harden dot com.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it's very lovely that you keep yourself so accessible
to other creatives and people that want to learn. Thanks
for taking time to come on. It's nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you for asking me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you for of course you're a perennial.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Times a fan of this station.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh you know what, we never ever hate hearing that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I know and I can't stop saying. My husband is like,
I have to do two things already on my in
my car, so when I use his car, I don't
have to search for it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's lots we like to hear. And what you'll be
listening to on your way home is this next lady,
Tiffany Hobbs. How are you?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm well, you have two so cow legends in here, Terry.
I'm I'm stars struck. I'm often stars struck following Neil
because he has the best guests. But no one has
ever come in here with that jacket that you have here,
Terry with the soles on it. You can leave that
(30:28):
behind you as a partying gift for your love for the.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Station design myself. Please, that is inredible.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh my god, but I'm well, how are you, Neil?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I hello, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Hi. Yeah, No, it's this is leading into your show.
This is where we do the handshake. Yes, and you
grab the baton and hopefully not drop it. No, I
never do. I enjoy your show. And I told you
when I saw you today that I'm very proud of you.
I think you do a fantastic job. I love balance
(31:05):
and thought. It's very easy to be ejaculatory and needs
on the station. And I like thinkers. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I like to think.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And you're an artist as well.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And I'm an artist. I'm a photographer. Yeah, so I'm
not an imagineer. I would never consider myself you know,
your legion, either of yours. But I am an artist,
so I appreciate everything you do. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I put the.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Socowhaunt list dot Com into my phone because I love
a good haunt. I'll be looking at that site.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I love it. I love I don't know. I love
make believe. And the more real you can make it,
the more I suspend disbelief, the better and I love that.
So what's going on tonight on the Tiffany h Speaking of.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Real things, we have quite a few updates about some
huge stories in the news. Of course, Sean Diddycomb's was sentenced,
So I'll tell you about what happened in the courtroom yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
More like a phrase than sentence more.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
That's abbreviation at this point, but he will do some time.
And as you've been hearing, former USC quarterback Mark Sanchez
was stabbed.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
What now is right? And now he's around it the Yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Some crazy twists and turns to this story. So I
have some of the details as they continue to unfold,
because this is an ever unfolding situation. We're going to
talk about kind of the blowback from the Chevron refinery fire.
What does it mean for your gas prices? That's definitely
the question on everybody everyone's minds. No fatalities, no injuries, luckily,
(32:33):
but what will happen to gas prices? Costco is going
to be stocking their shelves with something that could change
your life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'll tell you what that is.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And I fully expect Bill to do this story on
Monday because it's a Costco story and he loves his Costco,
so I'll share the details therein keep listening and deep dive.
At six o'clock, we're going to get into why kids
can't read anymore. It's a lot to this, and then
after six thirty a pair of AI and Chat GPT
(33:02):
stories that will undoubtedly terrify you. Speaking of haunts and
speaking of real and speaking of not real AI and
Chat GPT, all of those things are going to mesh
together for our final final pair of stories, Big Show.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It is weird when the younger generation watches Star Wars
and thinks the only one that speaks correctly is Yoda.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Now that's guy and everybody else is talking weird with
all these full sentences and syntax and all that stuff. Weird.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Remember when Dystopia used to be kind of a figment
of the imagination Joe, and now it's here.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, we got Dystopia before we got flying cars.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Seriously, or as the kids would say, before GTA six. Ok, Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Always good to see you. I will be listening and
have a wonderful show thanks to my wonderful guest to
be Halloween and we will catch you again next week.
Have empathy, be kind to each other. It's free. This
is KFI and KOSTHD two Los Angeles, Orange County. You've
been listening to the Fork Report. You can always hear
(34:08):
us live on KFI AM six forty two to five
pm on Saturday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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