October 22, 2025 • 14 mins
Gary and Shannon put Justin Worsham in the hot seat — first over his lack of football knowledge, then about modern parenting. The trio dives into how parents are so focused on keeping kids “feeling good” that they’re robbing them of learning how to handle life’s inevitable setbacks. Justin also shares how a little car trouble with his son turned into a lesson on independence and problem-solving — plus, the three job skills every parent should teach their kids before AI takes over.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't think I'm just saying that because kid could
clean up boy, but he can't.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He can't. He's a good look at live world.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I heard tomorrow night, Thursday night football Chargers are hosting
the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You have another pair of I don't care. Yes, I
knew what your.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Tier ramsam okay back seven years.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, cause it's gonna be one of those things. So
you know, this is a hard room. It takes a
lot to impress. Yeah, I'm not very good at reading rooms,
So give me some more time. Caller, I haven't read
the football season very well.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Caller number six is going to win a couple of
tickets to tomorrow night's game Chargers Vikings at SOFI Stadium,
so one eight hundred five to zero one five three
four eight hundred five to oh one k F. I again,
Caller number six is going to win the next pair
of tickets.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'll be honest about my emotions and why I probably
said what I said is that I have been excited
that football is back. But also last night basketball was
back and I got to watch both games, and I
was very excited, and so I was happy to be
able to watch both games. I thought they were fun
to watch, and then I was like, oh, and then
there's another football game tonight. This is great, like or
tomorrow night. There's what I meant, there's more basketball tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Billy Blanks is on the TV, the Tybo guy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I haven't seen him since about nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You guys remember Tybo? Do you guys ever get into that?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Just so you guys know, Gary looked at Shannon with
a smile that only a father.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Would give, like a toddler. He does that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You've noticing a guy. Oh he made a video game
of Tybo.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Look at him? Go reboot.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, that's kind of cool. Justin Warsham has joined as
we talk about world of parenting. Well, we've talked a
lot about what you do to your kids earlier on
in life that can screw them up pretty bad. And
there is an article from Newsweek actually about child psychologists
(02:06):
talking about some of those habits that we parents engage
in that create adults who struggle.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love this quote.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
They said, the intention is love, but the outcome is
often dependency. By making things smooth and easier for our kids,
we're accidentally making them more dependent on us.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's not really our intent. We're trying to take care
of them.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, there's a generalization. The world is not an easy
place to be. Regardless of who you are, where you're born,
what color your skin is, if you have money, you
don't have money. The world is never an easy place
to be. It can be made easier by some of
those things kind of falling into place, but it's not easy.
(02:48):
And the way parents try to make it easy a
lot of times is by patting on the head and
you're the greatest, and you're so pretty, and you're so
cute and you're so smart. That is not what happens
once they get out from under the parent. No one,
I shouldn't say no one. Very few people will walk
by you and pat you on the head and say
(03:09):
you're so cute and you're It's like the difference between
walking down Main Street, USA and Topeka, Kansas and walking
down fifty seventh Street in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Is that sure? I don't even know if that's in Brooklyn, but.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, where people are gonna yell, get out of my
off and way, what are you so? Why are you
so slow? I mean, that's what the world is more like.
And if you try just to soothe your kids the
whole time. They're gonna get run over when they go
to Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, don't feel like people are going out of their
way to make me feel good, right, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You guys are my friends, and we all heard how
this started. Like I just I was. I was.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I was overjoyed that there was a football game. I
was excited to see, and you guys like me.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are very dismissive. This is part of the point we're making.
I accept you for who you are. You don't often
see genuine joy this wind. I don't know what to do.
It more protection for ourselves. Yes, yeah, this is your
version of recoil.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Think that we just install it joy Like I love
watching cats slap things and videos online. Now, I don't
know if that's a new level of old that I've
achieved what I'm here for. I like it, like, just
watch it go. It makes me laugh. That's what I
felt like. It was just you guys. I don't know
what this is and I don't want it stop it.
But it's funny that you talk about. Because my older
(04:30):
son is very smart wise, like I love to tell
the story when he was in second grade he did
this project where they talk about like the thing you
like the most or the thing you don't like the most,
and then you build like this bubble chart around it
and you rank it. And the thing he did not
like the most. He's second grade. Thing he did not
like the most was time because there was never enough
of it. Kids seven years old and understands that time
(04:50):
is a finite resource that he cannot get more of.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I was like, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
His the fender well on his car, like something knocked
it off.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Whack. He completely shut.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Him down, couldn't couldn't figure it out, didn't know, like
I had to call me. He was like, the car's
making a noise. I don't know what's going on. I said, well,
did you? Did you pull over and like look at
the tires. He's like, no, I'll do that now. And
he goes, oh, the plastic, it's all it's all over
the place. I'm like, well, it might have just getting
knocked off.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I said, try to clip it back in.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, all right, I think I got it. I go, okay,
when we remind me tomorrow and we'll look at it
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He slept in. He goes through a rehearsal. The next
day it got worse. He's like, the.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Tire is shaking.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And I was in the middle of helping with the show.
So he talked to his mom. I go out there.
The plastic had just folded under. I just pulled it
out and the car was completely drivable. He was he
barked his car in the red zone with hazards on
because he was like it was yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Like I don't know what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Ay from it a little. There's quote a quote from
this professor that we're talking about out of Toro University
of New York. He says, a little discomfort today can
build the psychological flexibility they will need tomorrow. And if
there if I could say, there is one like running
theme from these segments that we've been doing over the years, right,
it's this that we have developed a parental society or
(06:11):
culture that says, I need to try to make my
feel good as much as I can. And the outcome
of that is that we have removed their ability to
deal with negative experiences. Kids are so easily triggered, traumatized,
all of that stuff, because it's all a perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Is it a pushback then that so many of them
are coming up with things that are hurdles?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Ooh, like you, you feel like you if you're.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A lawnmower parent, say we went through a lawnmower lawnmower
parent generation of parents kind of getting rid of all
the obstacles, and now the kids are kind of psychologically
hungry for an obstacle.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah. I think I don't even think it's kids. I
think it's people in general.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I say anxiety, you need something as a human.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You need a struggle. I don't know why you need
a struggle.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You need to struggle, you need an you need some
kind of you need something to overcome because that is
where we get I think our prime dopamine release is
that when you overcome that adversity, when you get through
that difficult time on the other side, it feels amazing.
And I think your brain is hardwired to find that,
even if you don't have it right to try to
get you that fix. Maybe. And so what's happening is
(07:20):
it just seems like the bar for struggle is being
lower and lower and lower, Like it doesn't it's not
the same bar that I think it was for us.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But maybe that's just what every generation says.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's probably what every generation thinks.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Because everybody that I talk to thinks it's worse to
be a kid today, and I don't think so. I
think kids are nicer to each other than they ever were. Yeah,
they are nicer, and the parents are nicer to the
kids than they ever were.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They know their first names. Now. It's a really it's
a big job. We've made it three job skills.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Every parent should be teaching their kid before AI takes over.
Justin Warsham has joined us, So we're talking about some
parenting issues and few things. AI is now going to
creep into our lives much more so. It's put its
foot in the door already and it's going to barge
in here pretty quickly. And there are things that parents
might want to start talking to their kids, teaching their
(08:10):
kids about before AI really just holds them down and
does bad things to me.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I want to say that this is very pro AI.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
If you remember, I think it was a couple of
weeks ago, maybe it was even last week that I
talked about. Like in Asia, they are already embracing in
the eighty percentile of parents embracing AI like parenting assistant.
Sure so, but what they're talking about here is these
are the skill sets that you're going to need your
kid to have in an AI like generation. So they
need you need to teach your teens the art of
(08:40):
communication and storytelling with data. So they're going to use
AI to generate data in order to be able to
like humanize it and provide a narrative or a story
that you can sell with it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
They said.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
This is as per a twenty twenty four study for
by PUBE Research, written and spoken communication skills and critical
thinking skills are rated extremely at very important by around
eighty five percent of workers in twenty twenty four National
I'm messing this up. What I'm trying to say is
is that they're saying that there's going to be this
huge jump in what people are going to need to
(09:15):
know how to interface with AI.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That's the better way to say that than what I
just did.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And at this point, the vast majority of us have
just barely dipped our toe into it. Like write a
funny song about the Blue Jays using the O Canada
as the basis, but instead of oh Canada, make it
say screw Canada, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And then that's it. That's all we do.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
We don't ask it to go through and compare this
year's Q four incomes to the previous ten years of
Q four and figure out what went wrong and why
this year.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Was different than the other years or something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And then they also talk about being able to develop
critical thinking and telling what AI is getting giving you
is it factor fiction, so you have to go back
and double check resource.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I wouldn't have any clue how to try to instruct
my kids one way or the other. And my kids
are old enough now that they know that it, they
know what it is, yep. But how would you even
begin to tell them, Hey, that video of Donald Trump
flying inn F thirty five is not real. Well, they
see it and they go, but it's on.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well the same way, you know, sometimes you have to
use your own experience in life, like when you tell
your kids that you actually didn't fly that plane. Remember
when I looked like I flew that plane, kid, and
they gave me it out for it. They put me
in the plane. I looked, but I flew that plane.
And I didn't fly that plane either, kids.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I flew it for seconds. I was gonna say I
saw you. I feel like I saw that. You don't
need to do that. We all know he didn't really
fly the plane. I flew the plane for a few seconds. Yeah,
that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I didn't have to take off. No, nor did I
have to land. It doesn't mean you didn't fly the plane.
But I grabbed the wheel halfway down the freeway.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I mean it's a stick, I think, but you know true,
maybe they call it wheel when you're an actual.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Pilot like you, did you get to tell to the stick.
Excuse me, yes, I put the thing in a barrel
roll and you've seen the video.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm sorry, No, you're not. You left that door wide open.
I tell my kids he wasn't really flying the plane.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, okay, you know what I was gonna say, I
felt like you kicked in that door like somebody's serving
an arrest warrant.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But when you tell it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That way, that does I guess I did kind of
open it. Really No, I'm going to backtrack. This is
her like spinning it. You were just having a conversation,
and these conversational moments for her, the way her brain
is wired, go off like fireworks. It's like a flare
if you're a down boat in the ocean for the coastguard.
She sees it go off and goes, there's my moment,
and she jumps in it and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Always leaning forward. She's always leaning forward.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's like Caesar Malan says, dogs that see red like
you just you can't help yourself. It's a visceral reaction
that you have, and be like, I can ridicule him
about this, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You did this. You did this to yourself. Offman, You
can't you know who I am. Have your kids used
AI yet? Yes? I was gonna say last night, my
son or not last night.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The night before I was going to say good night,
I go, you got everything done right? And he was like,
he goes, oh no, I go what He goes, I
have to write a speech? And I go Jacob and
he goes, he goes, that's okay, I could use AI.
And he came in and he goes, look at this
like AI. And he had it done in less than
five minutes. I don't know he decided.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just in a feedback loop right now. Uh No,
he had to.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's playing Hades in Hadestown in like a local children's
theater production, and so he decided to do a speech
from his character, from the perspective of his character, and
he used AI to kind of give him a launching point.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then he goes in and he cleans it up.
But he also came in.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And wrote this, Uh, Carnegie, not Dale, Andrew Andrew Carnegie.
He was his history teacher, did this cool thing where
he said, you guys are going to pick up figure
and then you have to debate, So you have to
learn about the perspective of your historic figure and then
you're going to debate somebody. So he was Andrew Carnegie,
and he debated like a prominent feminist person out.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Fun that sounds like fun. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It was a great idea, and he loved it, and
he wrote like this very eloquent thing. And so he
came in he goes, look at this and he read
this thing. And I was like, who said that? He goes,
I did, And I go, what do you mean you did?
I go, oh, you used AI to write something in
the way that Andrew Carnie. He's like, no, I wrote
it and it sounded like a like a presidential speech,
like it was beautiful, And I go, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Use AI and all of that. He's like, no, and
he looked at me like why would you say that?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And I'm like, if the other if it had happened
in the other order, then I could use that example.
But that was before he said last night, oh U
wrote this like, it's something.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Fun listening to your kids grow up, and say, watching
your kids, but I don't want them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's just kind of fun to hear all the anecdotes
you bring up. Oh good, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I'm in a phase right now where I'm really liking it.
I'm liking the teenage parenting. I think I've gone through phases.
Middle school sucks. I still stand by that totally, but
this is getting nicer and fun, like I get to
play with them. I don't know if I'm being a
bad parent because I don't think it's so bad that
they're using AI.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think it's a tool they're going to have to
use in their course. It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I do my job of being the old guy with
his pants up around his sternam and I have to
shake my head and roll my eyes and go, well,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Make sure you know how to really do it. But
I mean I'm also.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
A guy who uses a GPS to go to the
grocery store, So do I have any credibility?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Probably not,
I don't think I'm just saying that because kid could
clean up boy, but he can't.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He can't. He's a good look at live world.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I heard tomorrow night, Thursday night football Chargers are hosting
the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You have another pair of I don't care. Yes, I
knew what your.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Tier ramsam okay back seven years.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, cause it's gonna be one of those things. So
you know, this is a hard room. It takes a
lot to impress. Yeah, I'm not very good at reading rooms,
So give me some more time. Caller, I haven't read
the football season very well.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Caller number six is going to win a couple of
tickets to tomorrow night's game Chargers Vikings at SOFI Stadium,
so one eight hundred five to zero one five three
four eight hundred five to oh one k F. I again,
Caller number six is going to win the next pair
of tickets.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'll be honest about my emotions and why I probably
said what I said is that I have been excited
that football is back. But also last night basketball was
back and I got to watch both games, and I
was very excited, and so I was happy to be
able to watch both games. I thought they were fun
to watch, and then I was like, oh, and then
there's another football game tonight. This is great, like or
tomorrow night. There's what I meant, there's more basketball tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Billy Blanks is on the TV, the Tybo guy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I haven't seen him since about nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You guys remember Tybo? Do you guys ever get into that?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Just so you guys know, Gary looked at Shannon with
a smile that only a father.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Would give, like a toddler. He does that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You've noticing a guy. Oh he made a video game
of Tybo.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Look at him? Go reboot.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, that's kind of cool. Justin Warsham has joined as
we talk about world of parenting. Well, we've talked a
lot about what you do to your kids earlier on
in life that can screw them up pretty bad. And
there is an article from Newsweek actually about child psychologists
(02:06):
talking about some of those habits that we parents engage
in that create adults who struggle.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love this quote.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
They said, the intention is love, but the outcome is
often dependency. By making things smooth and easier for our kids,
we're accidentally making them more dependent on us.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's not really our intent. We're trying to take care
of them.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, there's a generalization. The world is not an easy
place to be. Regardless of who you are, where you're born,
what color your skin is, if you have money, you
don't have money. The world is never an easy place
to be. It can be made easier by some of
those things kind of falling into place, but it's not easy.
(02:48):
And the way parents try to make it easy a
lot of times is by patting on the head and
you're the greatest, and you're so pretty, and you're so
cute and you're so smart. That is not what happens
once they get out from under the parent. No one,
I shouldn't say no one. Very few people will walk
by you and pat you on the head and say
(03:09):
you're so cute and you're It's like the difference between
walking down Main Street, USA and Topeka, Kansas and walking
down fifty seventh Street in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Is that sure? I don't even know if that's in Brooklyn, but.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, where people are gonna yell, get out of my
off and way, what are you so? Why are you
so slow? I mean, that's what the world is more like.
And if you try just to soothe your kids the
whole time. They're gonna get run over when they go
to Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, don't feel like people are going out of their
way to make me feel good, right, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You guys are my friends, and we all heard how
this started. Like I just I was. I was.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I was overjoyed that there was a football game. I
was excited to see, and you guys like me.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are very dismissive. This is part of the point we're making.
I accept you for who you are. You don't often
see genuine joy this wind. I don't know what to do.
It more protection for ourselves. Yes, yeah, this is your
version of recoil.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Think that we just install it joy Like I love
watching cats slap things and videos online. Now, I don't
know if that's a new level of old that I've
achieved what I'm here for. I like it, like, just
watch it go. It makes me laugh. That's what I
felt like. It was just you guys. I don't know
what this is and I don't want it stop it.
But it's funny that you talk about. Because my older
(04:30):
son is very smart wise, like I love to tell
the story when he was in second grade he did
this project where they talk about like the thing you
like the most or the thing you don't like the most,
and then you build like this bubble chart around it
and you rank it. And the thing he did not
like the most. He's second grade. Thing he did not
like the most was time because there was never enough
of it. Kids seven years old and understands that time
(04:50):
is a finite resource that he cannot get more of.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And I was like, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
His the fender well on his car, like something knocked
it off.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Whack. He completely shut.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Him down, couldn't couldn't figure it out, didn't know, like
I had to call me. He was like, the car's
making a noise. I don't know what's going on. I said, well,
did you? Did you pull over and like look at
the tires. He's like, no, I'll do that now. And
he goes, oh, the plastic, it's all it's all over
the place. I'm like, well, it might have just getting
knocked off.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I said, try to clip it back in.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, all right, I think I got it. I go, okay,
when we remind me tomorrow and we'll look at it
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He slept in. He goes through a rehearsal. The next
day it got worse. He's like, the.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Tire is shaking.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And I was in the middle of helping with the show.
So he talked to his mom. I go out there.
The plastic had just folded under. I just pulled it
out and the car was completely drivable. He was he
barked his car in the red zone with hazards on
because he was like it was yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Like I don't know what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Ay from it a little. There's quote a quote from
this professor that we're talking about out of Toro University
of New York. He says, a little discomfort today can
build the psychological flexibility they will need tomorrow. And if
there if I could say, there is one like running
theme from these segments that we've been doing over the years, right,
it's this that we have developed a parental society or
(06:11):
culture that says, I need to try to make my
feel good as much as I can. And the outcome
of that is that we have removed their ability to
deal with negative experiences. Kids are so easily triggered, traumatized,
all of that stuff, because it's all a perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Is it a pushback then that so many of them
are coming up with things that are hurdles?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Ooh, like you, you feel like you if you're.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A lawnmower parent, say we went through a lawnmower lawnmower
parent generation of parents kind of getting rid of all
the obstacles, and now the kids are kind of psychologically
hungry for an obstacle.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah. I think I don't even think it's kids. I
think it's people in general.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I say anxiety, you need something as a human.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You need a struggle. I don't know why you need
a struggle.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You need to struggle, you need an you need some
kind of you need something to overcome because that is
where we get I think our prime dopamine release is
that when you overcome that adversity, when you get through
that difficult time on the other side, it feels amazing.
And I think your brain is hardwired to find that,
even if you don't have it right to try to
get you that fix. Maybe. And so what's happening is
(07:20):
it just seems like the bar for struggle is being
lower and lower and lower, Like it doesn't it's not
the same bar that I think it was for us.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But maybe that's just what every generation says.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's probably what every generation thinks.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Because everybody that I talk to thinks it's worse to
be a kid today, and I don't think so. I
think kids are nicer to each other than they ever were. Yeah,
they are nicer, and the parents are nicer to the
kids than they ever were.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They know their first names. Now. It's a really it's
a big job. We've made it three job skills.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Every parent should be teaching their kid before AI takes over.
Justin Warsham has joined us, So we're talking about some
parenting issues and few things. AI is now going to
creep into our lives much more so. It's put its
foot in the door already and it's going to barge
in here pretty quickly. And there are things that parents
might want to start talking to their kids, teaching their
(08:10):
kids about before AI really just holds them down and
does bad things to me.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I want to say that this is very pro AI.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
If you remember, I think it was a couple of
weeks ago, maybe it was even last week that I
talked about. Like in Asia, they are already embracing in
the eighty percentile of parents embracing AI like parenting assistant.
Sure so, but what they're talking about here is these
are the skill sets that you're going to need your
kid to have in an AI like generation. So they
need you need to teach your teens the art of
(08:40):
communication and storytelling with data. So they're going to use
AI to generate data in order to be able to
like humanize it and provide a narrative or a story
that you can sell with it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
They said.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
This is as per a twenty twenty four study for
by PUBE Research, written and spoken communication skills and critical
thinking skills are rated extremely at very important by around
eighty five percent of workers in twenty twenty four National
I'm messing this up. What I'm trying to say is
is that they're saying that there's going to be this
huge jump in what people are going to need to
(09:15):
know how to interface with AI.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That's the better way to say that than what I
just did.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And at this point, the vast majority of us have
just barely dipped our toe into it. Like write a
funny song about the Blue Jays using the O Canada
as the basis, but instead of oh Canada, make it
say screw Canada, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And then that's it. That's all we do.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
We don't ask it to go through and compare this
year's Q four incomes to the previous ten years of
Q four and figure out what went wrong and why
this year.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Was different than the other years or something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And then they also talk about being able to develop
critical thinking and telling what AI is getting giving you
is it factor fiction, so you have to go back
and double check resource.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I wouldn't have any clue how to try to instruct
my kids one way or the other. And my kids
are old enough now that they know that it, they
know what it is, yep. But how would you even
begin to tell them, Hey, that video of Donald Trump
flying inn F thirty five is not real. Well, they
see it and they go, but it's on.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well the same way, you know, sometimes you have to
use your own experience in life, like when you tell
your kids that you actually didn't fly that plane. Remember
when I looked like I flew that plane, kid, and
they gave me it out for it. They put me
in the plane. I looked, but I flew that plane.
And I didn't fly that plane either, kids.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I flew it for seconds. I was gonna say I
saw you. I feel like I saw that. You don't
need to do that. We all know he didn't really
fly the plane. I flew the plane for a few seconds. Yeah,
that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I didn't have to take off. No, nor did I
have to land. It doesn't mean you didn't fly the plane.
But I grabbed the wheel halfway down the freeway.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I mean it's a stick, I think, but you know true,
maybe they call it wheel when you're an actual.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Pilot like you, did you get to tell to the stick.
Excuse me, yes, I put the thing in a barrel
roll and you've seen the video.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm sorry, No, you're not. You left that door wide open.
I tell my kids he wasn't really flying the plane.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, okay, you know what I was gonna say, I
felt like you kicked in that door like somebody's serving
an arrest warrant.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But when you tell it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
That way, that does I guess I did kind of
open it. Really No, I'm going to backtrack. This is
her like spinning it. You were just having a conversation,
and these conversational moments for her, the way her brain
is wired, go off like fireworks. It's like a flare
if you're a down boat in the ocean for the coastguard.
She sees it go off and goes, there's my moment,
and she jumps in it and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Always leaning forward. She's always leaning forward.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's like Caesar Malan says, dogs that see red like
you just you can't help yourself. It's a visceral reaction
that you have, and be like, I can ridicule him
about this, then yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You did this. You did this to yourself. Offman, You
can't you know who I am. Have your kids used
AI yet? Yes? I was gonna say last night, my
son or not last night.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The night before I was going to say good night,
I go, you got everything done right? And he was like,
he goes, oh no, I go what He goes, I
have to write a speech? And I go Jacob and
he goes, he goes, that's okay, I could use AI.
And he came in and he goes, look at this
like AI. And he had it done in less than
five minutes. I don't know he decided.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just in a feedback loop right now. Uh No,
he had to.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's playing Hades in Hadestown in like a local children's
theater production, and so he decided to do a speech
from his character, from the perspective of his character, and
he used AI to kind of give him a launching point.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then he goes in and he cleans it up.
But he also came in.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And wrote this, Uh, Carnegie, not Dale, Andrew Andrew Carnegie.
He was his history teacher, did this cool thing where
he said, you guys are going to pick up figure
and then you have to debate, So you have to
learn about the perspective of your historic figure and then
you're going to debate somebody. So he was Andrew Carnegie,
and he debated like a prominent feminist person out.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Fun that sounds like fun. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
It was a great idea, and he loved it, and
he wrote like this very eloquent thing. And so he
came in he goes, look at this and he read
this thing. And I was like, who said that? He goes,
I did, And I go, what do you mean you did?
I go, oh, you used AI to write something in
the way that Andrew Carnie. He's like, no, I wrote
it and it sounded like a like a presidential speech,
like it was beautiful, And I go, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Use AI and all of that. He's like, no, and
he looked at me like why would you say that?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And I'm like, if the other if it had happened
in the other order, then I could use that example.
But that was before he said last night, oh U
wrote this like, it's something.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Fun listening to your kids grow up, and say, watching
your kids, but I don't want them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's just kind of fun to hear all the anecdotes
you bring up. Oh good, I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I'm in a phase right now where I'm really liking it.
I'm liking the teenage parenting. I think I've gone through phases.
Middle school sucks. I still stand by that totally, but
this is getting nicer and fun, like I get to
play with them. I don't know if I'm being a
bad parent because I don't think it's so bad that
they're using AI.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think it's a tool they're going to have to
use in their course. It's not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I do my job of being the old guy with
his pants up around his sternam and I have to
shake my head and roll my eyes and go, well,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Make sure you know how to really do it. But
I mean I'm also.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
A guy who uses a GPS to go to the
grocery store, So do I have any credibility?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Probably not,
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