April 30, 2025 • 15 mins
PARENTING – Want to Raise Successful Kids? Cognitive Research Says Work on This 1 Key Emotion / Research Shows Reading is More Important for Our Kids Than You Ever Imagined.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Justin Morsham has joined us takes.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, we talk with don't get me started on center stage,
because that's a.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Whole other thing.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Justin is probably the most popular multi hyphen it here'kfi.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We talk about parenting on Wednesdays and on Sundays you
roll in and talk about real estate.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
These are renaissance.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We talk about adulting.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Uh, let's talk about successful kids working on one key emotion.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
And this was I gotta be honest, I was taken
aback by this that the key emotion for your kids
to grow up successful is awe. And if I'm reading
this correctly based on the information of the study, is
that the parents need to be in awe of their children.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I thought it was going to be keep the
awe in your kids as long as possible, so where
your kids are like, oh, that's wonderful or that's great,
or that's beautiful or that's cool or you know, so
your kids aren't quicker than they should be.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And that could because there's other parts of it where
they allude to the fact that the parents who were
also experiencing awe. So what my general takeaway from it
was is that if your bar is very low, then
you tend to be happier in general and maybe more successful.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Welling parents should be in awe of their kids. Don't
give it the kids the power, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, don't get me wrong. My kids have there.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Each of them have had two moments or one each
where I was genuinely, insincerely in awe of what they
decided to do. So I was proud of them that
the proud pride is the second in this study. So
you the number one emotion for the predictor of success
is awe, and pride is number two, which I thought
was also I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Think of in awe of something, I think like delighted
or surprised by the magnitude.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
They did the thing, and I'll try and pull it
up here. They did the thing of they gave you like.
The Webster's Dictionary defines alle as and uh and they
give you a different one the Merriam Webster Dictionary. An
emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired
by authority or by the sacred or sublime.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now hit the second one if you don't mind strong.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
This one from dictionary dot com an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, fear,
et cetera, produced by what produced by that which is grand, sublime,
extremely powerful or the light.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Something that should be revered is not your child.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, and that's what.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So again, this just kind of threw me off my
balance because I'm like, am I supposed to be admire
And there's a lot again, there's a lot of ways
that I genuinely, sincerely do admire my kids. But I
don't know, I don't know that you know, like to me,
the equivalent of like, you know, who rescued who?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, if this kid does something kind or you know, wonderful,
you can.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Can you imagine being a base because your kid does
something kind? So true?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
But yeah, true kids are selfish, little being.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Kids made me dinner last night while I was on
like a zoom meeting.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And that's really like he was sick or he was
inhabited by an alien. I'm like, you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
That is when AWE comes in. I was so.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Along those lines when when you say awe, I think
of the context of like, this is the most beautiful
sunset I've ever seen in my life. I can't wrap
my head around what is going on right now. If
you if you are in awe of your kids, maybe
it's not because of what they've done, but you're like,
I can't believe that two human beings can get together
(03:25):
and create another human being.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Person, and you're in awe of yourself, not the kid.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It did say.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The author of the article said, when I read things
like this, it reminds me, if I needed it to,
that being a parent really is an almost incomprehensible.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Gift, which I do not feel that being a parent
is an incomprehension. It sounds like I feel like it's
a job that.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I signed up for that I didn't know what I
was getting into. But I do enjoy like that's like
from time to time. That's a better way to say,
I enjoy it from time to time. I do not
find joy in it every day.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I don't. I probably am through swaths of it I didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I could say I did not find enjoyment from it
most of the time. Right there, it's fleeting moments of
joy and I have enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Moment worth it. They do that.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But again, I don't know if this is like an
evolutionary thing that we've just had, Like it has to
be ingrained in us, that we have to psychologically think
that because he smiles after he farts when he's kept
me up all night, but that makes it all worth it.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Maybe it is, but it's still.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
There's a little bit of, like I don't know, sociopathic
aspects to it, that you have to like trick yourself
into finding the fun and being beat on and vomited on.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's frue.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I mean, parents do make allowances for their kids.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
A lot, and then they get older and all they
do is not appreciate you and become generally annoyed by
you and don't want you around. Like so, I'm just
when I see this, it's a thing that's very conflicting
for me because obviously I come in here, I cry
about my kids.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I love them dearly.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I could not imagine my life being any different than
what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I did not. I do not think I would.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Use AWE to describe how I feel a good chunk
of the time. And maybe we'll see, maybe my kids
will be less successful because of it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
No, that is not true, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Listen, you're a successful guy. I thank you clearly I
have hyphens. Your dad would not be in awe of you, No,
and if he was, he would never admit it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Which is a funny thing because I feel like this
is the push towards telling your kids that you're in
awe of them, and that I think puts a very
That's a bad move.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a bawful It's so stupid. I think it's really stupid.
I feel like the thing that I've strived for is
to hear that my parents are proud of me.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That's like the number one thing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And I think that it's never changed throughout my entire life,
Like that's what I want.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You want that?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And there's this weird I think high wire tuggle war
whatever where it's like because if they give the pride
too fast and east right, then it's like it doesn't
feel earned.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They've got to pay attention to you for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Exactly right, you can't. But is it funny how we
all we all have these similar vibes like.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I have this one, and you should want that as
a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You should want to make your parent proud and your
parents should want to be proud of you. You know,
all of these things The awe thing is just like
give me that's a little too new parent age foo
food to me.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It be in awe of your check coming back.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
This right here is my biggest feared anxiety I've always
had as a parent is that I've always felt exactly
like we're all saying we feel yeah, but I'm like,
what if everybody else who is blowing that much sunshine
up their kids a that like, that's they're actually the one.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have a lot of friends, most of my friends
have kids, and that that is never a conversation. I
was in awe of my daughter and like, that's not
a thing.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I've never heard somebody heap that much praise on that kid.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But let me go back to what I said earlier,
when I said, is that when you think of the
awe of being in awe of something this bigger than you,
I'm in awe of the the skyscraper that I would
never be able to design or build or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
If you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Display that, if you show that to your kids, not
directed towards them, but you show them that you are
still capable of being impressed by something that I think
is a good quality to exactly, because then that gives
the gives the kid the ability to not be a
giant jade like you said earlier, a jaded a hole
through the rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
One of my least favorite things. When a child is
not impressed by something. Yeah, so annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I agree. I mean they should all be impressed by you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean by you know, even if it's just like
a meal out or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
They got for Christmas, Like they can't wrap their head
around the fact they don't deserve it. You gave it
to them because you you love them, right or whatever,
But they don't get the awe that should be involved
with you spent how much money on a on a
game system that's going to eat my brain out?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I love it, Thank you. Yeah, I'm all I'm in
awe of that. I mean that I pulled a fast
one on.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I will get the you know, text messages from friends
like can you believe they're you know, thirteen and fifteen?
Can you believe I made these kids? You know what
I mean kind of thing, and and that I get
the awe there of like you know, like we were
talking about, I can see that like, oh my god,
I did this, we did this. We've all done this,
The family has done this. Look at them. They're grown
up and they're not broken.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
So here's one last bit of perspective is that it
also says there was a twenty twenty study that found
that if you spent fifteen minutes in a walk out
in nature where the things you were seeing were things
that you would be considered to be in awe of,
you were significantly more likely to feel pro social emotions.
So what if like, let's just say the parent is
(08:39):
very easily find finds themselves in a state of awe
and that somehow begets this perspective for the kid because
they're modeling it to also just appreciate what they have
for around them. So that's really what because they they're
also maybe that removes a little bit of like the
insecurity obstacles that you usually have to overcome to achieve stuff, yes,
and that you just like you just have a more
(09:00):
positive mindset and it's more about.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Birds, yeah, feather, it's it's it's the same thing with
the people you surround yourself, even as adults, Like if
you're surrounding yourself with people who are like, oh it's
beautiful today, Like look, do you see those flowers.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Those are incredible.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
How bright they're the ones right outside the door, you know,
I opposed to someone who's like, I hate my life
this day.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
My favorite study is the one that said my grandparents'
generation was happier than all of us because their bar
for happiness was so low.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yes, they expect keep the bar low.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Justin will continue.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It's like the turban kids.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Justin war just joined us and we're talking about parenting issues,
and so new research talks about the importance of reading.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I have a feeling when I read this, I was
gobspeck like, I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And I have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You guys are be like, oh, no, it's important, no, nothing,
But fifty four percent of US adults read below a
sixth grade level.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Not surprised, really, you've been the target. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Watch your mouth about target.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I just dealing with people.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, exactly. And I also think that reading, uh, reading
ability can regress. I mean you get out of the practice,
just like handwriting, right, your handwriting now is nowhere what
it was, nowhere near what it was like probably when
you were junior senior in high school because you were
constantly writing. I don't write things down I mean chicken
(10:35):
scratch numbers here and there. I don't write things down
every day. I'll go days without using a pen or
a pencil.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I always had third grade level handwriting.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Unfortunately, write me something right, I like, well, you're right with.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The wrong hand, dummy. The it gets even worse.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They didn't beat that out. Uh huh, you're my age.
There were no left handing, that's perfectly.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Would you write like you're right handed though?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh I do. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I just always like people. When I signed my niece's
like certificate for because I like a left hand, yet
I officiated her wedding and like both her and her
now husband were like whoa dude?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Like when I was just writing my name, like GEO,
I didn't realize you had palsy exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You should have been a doctor.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But look at how lame that is when I write
with my left hand.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh, it would be legible.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah that's a joke.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
O can't turn hers off for a second time out.
Good for you. You found my limit.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Evidently I didn't even know I had one. The other part,
so my kids, I've seen them like read aloud. They
mess up words constantly, which drives me up a wall.
I was never like I imagine both of you enjoyed reading.
I know Shannon does a lot. I have never been
a person who enjoyed reading. I like listening to like
business books, like audio books.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I like that. I'm I will read a book if
I like it.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I read like Ready Player one and the Harry Potter
book said there was stuff like that, but sixth grade
level exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That's what I'm saying is and I've been I'm the
guy who's.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Shocked when you say your kids mix up words? What
do you mean?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
They say it like they'll say something like, uh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Even give the example because it's such poor grammar.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like I just feel like I'm constantly going it's uh,
it's I don't know, it's magnification.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like I would say something mess up, could care less
versus no.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, we're not even at that high level.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And it's like blatantly like I don't think the words
you just put together Like I.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Understood you on this show.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I understood that every day people lose their freaking minds.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No we're not there, then they should.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Definitely, we could desensitize these people by having them dinner
with my family okay, because it's me constantly going no,
it's this word, and my Jack loves to drive me
a ball.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
He goes same difference. I'm like, no, no, it's not
the same difference.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
If it was, then I would understand.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I go, I can't send you into a job interview
using words like this.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That is nothing to Oh, yes, I know. That's the
one time that I know I'm being the victim of it.
You still can't stop it, can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's how we communicates, Like communication is very important. The
other part that shocked me about this is like how
much it's directly correlated to like earnings. People will read
at a sixth grade level on average in US make
sixty three thousand dollars a year. If you're at a
fifth grade level, dips all the way down to forty eight.
And I was like, wow, like especially, I mean, I
guess today we're all on computers, but just pick of books.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I guess, Yeah. It's not just the book, it's the
kind of book. It's the style of book. It's the
language of the book.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
And I think of different writing styles. The most outlandish
writing style that I can think of that I of
a book that I enjoyed was The Road by Cormick
McCarthy because there, I mean, he was missing punctuation in
that book, but it was so I mean, you got
to know the rules to break the rules. So clearly
(13:59):
he knows how to use punctuation, but he didn't in
this book. That to me is a well above a
sixth grade level book because of that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Not just the big words, not.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Just the the technical aspects potentially of a book that
you're reading, but the way the language is used is
probably the best indicator of the level of book. You
don't get that anywhere. I mean even you know, you
could read the New York Times online or in print,
(14:32):
whatever you want to do. It's not written. You know,
you're always taught in journalisms the newspaper writing. It's not
written that way. It's written to be consumed by the
I wouldn't say the lowest common denominator, but a pretty
low common denominator. And there's no challenge after you get
past sixth grade. You read science books, biology or something
(14:54):
like that in high school, but after that there's no more.
There's no challenge unless you bring it upon yourself. Where
you work in an industry where that's going to be
required reading.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It's just not out there.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
And I also always wonder, like Chicken or the Egg, like,
are people who naturally inclined to read are just gonna
also they're just going to naturally want to improve, right
like schmucks like me, like I like to improve in business.
Like that's interesting to me. But I very rarely will
read a piece of fiction or something like that. It's
not my jam. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I would much rather watch.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The movie an somebody else figure out all the visuals
for you. Yeah, yeah, paint the picture for me and
I break it down. What a flip book?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Very male ver. We will talk trenday.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Only time I've been called that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
It was the only time I've done that about you.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's not a good right.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
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Justin Morsham has joined us takes.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, we talk with don't get me started on center stage,
because that's a.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Whole other thing.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Justin is probably the most popular multi hyphen it here'kfi.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We talk about parenting on Wednesdays and on Sundays you
roll in and talk about real estate.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
These are renaissance.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We talk about adulting.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Uh, let's talk about successful kids working on one key emotion.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
And this was I gotta be honest, I was taken
aback by this that the key emotion for your kids
to grow up successful is awe. And if I'm reading
this correctly based on the information of the study, is
that the parents need to be in awe of their children.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I thought it was going to be keep the
awe in your kids as long as possible, so where
your kids are like, oh, that's wonderful or that's great,
or that's beautiful or that's cool or you know, so
your kids aren't quicker than they should be.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And that could because there's other parts of it where
they allude to the fact that the parents who were
also experiencing awe. So what my general takeaway from it
was is that if your bar is very low, then
you tend to be happier in general and maybe more successful.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Welling parents should be in awe of their kids. Don't
give it the kids the power, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, don't get me wrong. My kids have there.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Each of them have had two moments or one each
where I was genuinely, insincerely in awe of what they
decided to do. So I was proud of them that
the proud pride is the second in this study. So
you the number one emotion for the predictor of success
is awe, and pride is number two, which I thought
was also I.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Think of in awe of something, I think like delighted
or surprised by the magnitude.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
They did the thing, and I'll try and pull it
up here. They did the thing of they gave you like.
The Webster's Dictionary defines alle as and uh and they
give you a different one the Merriam Webster Dictionary. An
emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired
by authority or by the sacred or sublime.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now hit the second one if you don't mind strong.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
This one from dictionary dot com an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, fear,
et cetera, produced by what produced by that which is grand, sublime,
extremely powerful or the light.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Something that should be revered is not your child.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, and that's what.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So again, this just kind of threw me off my
balance because I'm like, am I supposed to be admire
And there's a lot again, there's a lot of ways
that I genuinely, sincerely do admire my kids. But I
don't know, I don't know that you know, like to me,
the equivalent of like, you know, who rescued who?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, if this kid does something kind or you know, wonderful,
you can.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Can you imagine being a base because your kid does
something kind? So true?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
But yeah, true kids are selfish, little being.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Kids made me dinner last night while I was on
like a zoom meeting.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And that's really like he was sick or he was
inhabited by an alien. I'm like, you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
That is when AWE comes in. I was so.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Along those lines when when you say awe, I think
of the context of like, this is the most beautiful
sunset I've ever seen in my life. I can't wrap
my head around what is going on right now. If
you if you are in awe of your kids, maybe
it's not because of what they've done, but you're like,
I can't believe that two human beings can get together
(03:25):
and create another human being.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm in awe of that.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Person, and you're in awe of yourself, not the kid.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It did say.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The author of the article said, when I read things
like this, it reminds me, if I needed it to,
that being a parent really is an almost incomprehensible.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Gift, which I do not feel that being a parent
is an incomprehension. It sounds like I feel like it's
a job that.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I signed up for that I didn't know what I
was getting into. But I do enjoy like that's like
from time to time. That's a better way to say,
I enjoy it from time to time. I do not
find joy in it every day.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I don't. I probably am through swaths of it I didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I could say I did not find enjoyment from it
most of the time. Right there, it's fleeting moments of
joy and I have enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Moment worth it. They do that.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But again, I don't know if this is like an
evolutionary thing that we've just had, Like it has to
be ingrained in us, that we have to psychologically think
that because he smiles after he farts when he's kept
me up all night, but that makes it all worth it.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Maybe it is, but it's still.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
There's a little bit of, like I don't know, sociopathic
aspects to it, that you have to like trick yourself
into finding the fun and being beat on and vomited on.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's frue.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I mean, parents do make allowances for their kids.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
A lot, and then they get older and all they
do is not appreciate you and become generally annoyed by
you and don't want you around. Like so, I'm just
when I see this, it's a thing that's very conflicting
for me because obviously I come in here, I cry
about my kids.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I love them dearly.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I could not imagine my life being any different than
what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But I did not. I do not think I would.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Use AWE to describe how I feel a good chunk
of the time. And maybe we'll see, maybe my kids
will be less successful because of it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
No, that is not true, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Listen, you're a successful guy. I thank you clearly I
have hyphens. Your dad would not be in awe of you, No,
and if he was, he would never admit it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Which is a funny thing because I feel like this
is the push towards telling your kids that you're in
awe of them, and that I think puts a very
That's a bad move.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a bawful It's so stupid. I think it's really stupid.
I feel like the thing that I've strived for is
to hear that my parents are proud of me.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That's like the number one thing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And I think that it's never changed throughout my entire life,
Like that's what I want.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You want that?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And there's this weird I think high wire tuggle war
whatever where it's like because if they give the pride
too fast and east right, then it's like it doesn't
feel earned.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They've got to pay attention to you for thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Exactly right, you can't. But is it funny how we
all we all have these similar vibes like.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I have this one, and you should want that as
a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You should want to make your parent proud and your
parents should want to be proud of you. You know,
all of these things The awe thing is just like
give me that's a little too new parent age foo
food to me.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It be in awe of your check coming back.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
This right here is my biggest feared anxiety I've always
had as a parent is that I've always felt exactly
like we're all saying we feel yeah, but I'm like,
what if everybody else who is blowing that much sunshine
up their kids a that like, that's they're actually the one.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have a lot of friends, most of my friends
have kids, and that that is never a conversation. I
was in awe of my daughter and like, that's not
a thing.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I've never heard somebody heap that much praise on that kid.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But let me go back to what I said earlier,
when I said, is that when you think of the
awe of being in awe of something this bigger than you,
I'm in awe of the the skyscraper that I would
never be able to design or build or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
If you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Display that, if you show that to your kids, not
directed towards them, but you show them that you are
still capable of being impressed by something that I think
is a good quality to exactly, because then that gives
the gives the kid the ability to not be a
giant jade like you said earlier, a jaded a hole
through the rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
One of my least favorite things. When a child is
not impressed by something. Yeah, so annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I agree. I mean they should all be impressed by you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
No no, no, no, not me.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean by you know, even if it's just like
a meal out or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
They got for Christmas, Like they can't wrap their head
around the fact they don't deserve it. You gave it
to them because you you love them, right or whatever,
But they don't get the awe that should be involved
with you spent how much money on a on a
game system that's going to eat my brain out?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I love it, Thank you. Yeah, I'm all I'm in
awe of that. I mean that I pulled a fast
one on.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I will get the you know, text messages from friends
like can you believe they're you know, thirteen and fifteen?
Can you believe I made these kids? You know what
I mean kind of thing, and and that I get
the awe there of like you know, like we were
talking about, I can see that like, oh my god,
I did this, we did this. We've all done this,
The family has done this. Look at them. They're grown
up and they're not broken.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
So here's one last bit of perspective is that it
also says there was a twenty twenty study that found
that if you spent fifteen minutes in a walk out
in nature where the things you were seeing were things
that you would be considered to be in awe of,
you were significantly more likely to feel pro social emotions.
So what if like, let's just say the parent is
(08:39):
very easily find finds themselves in a state of awe
and that somehow begets this perspective for the kid because
they're modeling it to also just appreciate what they have
for around them. So that's really what because they they're
also maybe that removes a little bit of like the
insecurity obstacles that you usually have to overcome to achieve stuff, yes,
and that you just like you just have a more
(09:00):
positive mindset and it's more about.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Birds, yeah, feather, it's it's it's the same thing with
the people you surround yourself, even as adults, Like if
you're surrounding yourself with people who are like, oh it's
beautiful today, Like look, do you see those flowers.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Those are incredible.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
How bright they're the ones right outside the door, you know,
I opposed to someone who's like, I hate my life
this day.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
My favorite study is the one that said my grandparents'
generation was happier than all of us because their bar
for happiness was so low.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yes, they expect keep the bar low.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Justin will continue.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
It's like the turban kids.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Justin war just joined us and we're talking about parenting issues,
and so new research talks about the importance of reading.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I have a feeling when I read this, I was
gobspeck like, I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And I have a feeling.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You guys are be like, oh, no, it's important, no, nothing,
But fifty four percent of US adults read below a
sixth grade level.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Not surprised, really, you've been the target. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Watch your mouth about target.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I just dealing with people.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, exactly. And I also think that reading, uh, reading
ability can regress. I mean you get out of the practice,
just like handwriting, right, your handwriting now is nowhere what
it was, nowhere near what it was like probably when
you were junior senior in high school because you were
constantly writing. I don't write things down I mean chicken
(10:35):
scratch numbers here and there. I don't write things down
every day. I'll go days without using a pen or
a pencil.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I always had third grade level handwriting.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Unfortunately, write me something right, I like, well, you're right with.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The wrong hand, dummy. The it gets even worse.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They didn't beat that out. Uh huh, you're my age.
There were no left handing, that's perfectly.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Would you write like you're right handed though?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh I do. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I just always like people. When I signed my niece's
like certificate for because I like a left hand, yet
I officiated her wedding and like both her and her
now husband were like whoa dude?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Like when I was just writing my name, like GEO,
I didn't realize you had palsy exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You should have been a doctor.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But look at how lame that is when I write
with my left hand.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh, it would be legible.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah that's a joke.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
O can't turn hers off for a second time out.
Good for you. You found my limit.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Evidently I didn't even know I had one. The other part,
so my kids, I've seen them like read aloud. They
mess up words constantly, which drives me up a wall.
I was never like I imagine both of you enjoyed reading.
I know Shannon does a lot. I have never been
a person who enjoyed reading. I like listening to like
business books, like audio books.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I like that. I'm I will read a book if
I like it.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I read like Ready Player one and the Harry Potter
book said there was stuff like that, but sixth grade
level exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That's what I'm saying is and I've been I'm the
guy who's.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Shocked when you say your kids mix up words? What
do you mean?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
They say it like they'll say something like, uh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Even give the example because it's such poor grammar.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like I just feel like I'm constantly going it's uh,
it's I don't know, it's magnification.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like I would say something mess up, could care less
versus no.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, we're not even at that high level.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And it's like blatantly like I don't think the words
you just put together Like I.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Understood you on this show.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I understood that every day people lose their freaking minds.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No we're not there, then they should.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Definitely, we could desensitize these people by having them dinner
with my family okay, because it's me constantly going no,
it's this word, and my Jack loves to drive me
a ball.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
He goes same difference. I'm like, no, no, it's not
the same difference.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
If it was, then I would understand.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
I go, I can't send you into a job interview
using words like this.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That is nothing to Oh, yes, I know. That's the
one time that I know I'm being the victim of it.
You still can't stop it, can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It's how we communicates, Like communication is very important. The
other part that shocked me about this is like how
much it's directly correlated to like earnings. People will read
at a sixth grade level on average in US make
sixty three thousand dollars a year. If you're at a
fifth grade level, dips all the way down to forty eight.
And I was like, wow, like especially, I mean, I
guess today we're all on computers, but just pick of books.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I guess, Yeah. It's not just the book, it's the
kind of book. It's the style of book. It's the
language of the book.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
And I think of different writing styles. The most outlandish
writing style that I can think of that I of
a book that I enjoyed was The Road by Cormick
McCarthy because there, I mean, he was missing punctuation in
that book, but it was so I mean, you got
to know the rules to break the rules. So clearly
(13:59):
he knows how to use punctuation, but he didn't in
this book. That to me is a well above a
sixth grade level book because of that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Not just the big words, not.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Just the the technical aspects potentially of a book that
you're reading, but the way the language is used is
probably the best indicator of the level of book. You
don't get that anywhere. I mean even you know, you
could read the New York Times online or in print,
(14:32):
whatever you want to do. It's not written. You know,
you're always taught in journalisms the newspaper writing. It's not
written that way. It's written to be consumed by the
I wouldn't say the lowest common denominator, but a pretty
low common denominator. And there's no challenge after you get
past sixth grade. You read science books, biology or something
(14:54):
like that in high school, but after that there's no more.
There's no challenge unless you bring it upon yourself. Where
you work in an industry where that's going to be
required reading.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It's just not out there.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
And I also always wonder, like Chicken or the Egg, like,
are people who naturally inclined to read are just gonna
also they're just going to naturally want to improve, right
like schmucks like me, like I like to improve in business.
Like that's interesting to me. But I very rarely will
read a piece of fiction or something like that. It's
not my jam. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I would much rather watch.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The movie an somebody else figure out all the visuals
for you. Yeah, yeah, paint the picture for me and
I break it down. What a flip book?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Very male ver. We will talk trenday.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Only time I've been called that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
It was the only time I've done that about you.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's not a good right.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
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