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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now it's time for our True Crime Tuesday. The story
is true? Sounds true?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Gerry and Shannon present True Crime one day.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Do you think tearing the sky's in True crime will unite?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
What if we ever did that dB Cooper story?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You do that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I still don't know who dB Cooper is? What door?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Exactly? This story of Jennifer and photiest Dulos from a
couple of years ago still never It never reached a
satisfactory conclusion because the guy ended up killing himself before
he appeared for a bail hearing.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I often think when I'm watching my true crime fair
why didn't you just get a divorce? Money usually play
is a big role in that, and you mix around
money with jealousy, that plays a big role in it.
But some of these it just why do you have
to kill someone? Just get a divorce? Vanity Farah is
(01:13):
an article about how the Jennifer Dulo's death, that was
that mother of five that was killed by her estranged husband,
how it shook a generation that was already freaked out
by mom and dad and divorce. And they highlight that
by between seventy and eighty. Nineteen seventy nineteen eighty, the
divorce great rate grew by more than one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Suddenly it was okay to get a divorce.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The number here. If you were married in nineteen fifty,
less than twenty percent of couples ended up in divorce,
But if you were married in nineteen seventy, that number
was about fifty percent of marriages that ended in divorce.
And about half of the children born to married parents
in the seventy saw their parents apart, compared to only
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about eleven percent of those born in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So a lot of them grew up thinking we would
not do to our kids what has been done to us.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Stay married even when it's hard.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
We're gonna raise this generation that would grow up without
worrying that they were just one talk away from domestic upheaval.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And there was a drop in divorce rates.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Gen X divorce rate is eighteen divorces per one thousand people,
putting this generation and millennials at the bottom of the
divorce rate table.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's funny, the writer for Vanity Fair says, along with
the dangers of smoking, this is one of the few
lessons we've actually seen to learn, but then pointed to
the Dulos murder case. The Jennifer Dulos murder as such
a weird result maybe of our attitudes towards divorce.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It was May twenty nineteen when Jennifer Dulos was in
a contentious divorce. She dropped her five kids off at
that fancy school in knetic Get, went home and vanished.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Body never been found.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Jennifer and her husband Fotus born in sixty eight and
sixty seven, the heart of early gen X. She grew
up rich. They just they grew up fine. It seemed
like one of those situations where if you didn't get along,
you'd get a divorce, right, But it seemed like they're
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not willingness to get a divorce led to the eventual murder.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This did get bad because there was divorce. It did
read like a childhood nightmare. They said that this, in fact,
was one of the most contentious divorce cases in the
history of the state of Connecticut. I mean, how many
thousands of cases, and this thing rises to near the
top or the top in terms of the most contentious.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The thing about divorce is, too, is it's not just
the two parties. You get the lawyers involved in they
start fighting over things that the parties didn't even know
they wanted to fight over, right, you know. And that's
the ugly that's another ugly layer to it all. They
don't want to deal with it. They don't and people
don't want to deal with it. They read stories like
this and they go, oh, no, I deal with that.
(04:15):
There was a point in and then if you don't
want to deal with it and you don't, does it
fester and lead to murder?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It could. The second day of court, the judge in
their divorce case broke routine and spoke directly to them
and warned them in all of his experience, he said,
I want to snap you out of where you are.
Try to see what you where you're going, and what
you're about to do. And he said, this is again
the judge talking to them in their divorce case. I've
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known you now from no more than twenty four hours,
and you seem like nice people with wonderful children. You
have all the opportunities in the world that many families
don't have, healthy children, wealth all that provides. One thing
it doesn't provide is happiness. I hope you can put
this all aside and maybe in the next week or
ten days as things cool down, figure out of way
to solve the problem yourselves, instead of having three or
four lawyers, judge, court, monitor, clerk all be involved in
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your life.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's like a Jerry McGuire judge move right, like, Hey,
this is ridiculous. I know I do this all the time,
but just cool down, resolve this yourselves amicably.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And they didn't. Obviously. They continued to go through the divorce,
they continued to grow angry with each other, and for
some reason he thought that the best, the best way
to deal with it was then to chop up her body.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And dump it in various different places.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, guys, and then to off himself. So now as
kids don't have any parent, would you like your Jeopardy question?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Sure? Okay, do it for the gram for six hundred
dollars ramgr Am. Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
For an American last stand commander, it would be gac.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Gac last. I don't get it. I'm not getting it.
I don't get it, Last stand commander.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Your internally, Oh Custer, this is what is monogram? Oh,
General Custer? General Custer monogram would be right, Well, that's
one of those ones you kind of have to read
rite When I just say G a C. It doesn't
stick out as it would be a monogram. I got
the custom party, Well, what's his first name? George, Gabby,
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Tom all right,