July 15, 2025 • 14 mins
3 Teens Almost Got Away with Murder. Then Police Found Their Google Searches.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you love police work, you will love this edition
of True Crime Tuesday. The story is true, sounds true?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Gary and
Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We'll start with the crime itself, Arson that led to murder.
It was just after two thirty a m. August fifth,
twenty twenty. People are just coming out of the pandemic
of the lockdowns. Amadal Sao woke to the shrieking sound
that could only be smoke detectors and his home there
(00:45):
in the suburbs of Denver was on fire.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's forty six.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He rushes to his bedroom door, but a column of
smoke and heat beat him back. He's panic. He runs
to the rear window, breaks the screen with his hand,
and jumps the two story drop, fractured his left foot.
His wife woke their daughter, who shared their room. She
(01:13):
dragged the ten year old little girls of the window
and pushed her out. Dad tried to catch her but missed. Miraculously,
she landed on her hands and feet uninjured. Then it
was Mom's turn. When she leaped, she fell on her back,
shattered her spine in two places. Dad barely hurt. His
wife's howls of pain. He was thinking about their twenty
(01:35):
two year old son. He couldn't see any movement in
the son's room. He hurls a rock through the window,
but the glass was steady, it didn't break, and he
just feel filled with despair. I mean, the whole place
is on fire. Then he notices that a son's car
wasn't in the driveway. Thank god, his family is safe,
But what about the other people in the house. At
(01:57):
that time, nine people called it home. It was at
fifty three to twelve Truckee Street. The dad had bought
the four bedroom property and Green Valley Ranch area in
twenty eighteen. This was a newly built neighborhood, sparsely populated,
kind of cut off from the city, kind of giving
an isolated ghost town feel, and it was a refuge.
(02:20):
Dad is from Senegal. He's an immigrant work nights at Walmart.
Not long after his family moved in, his old friend
and his family joined them as well. His friend's twenty
nine years old much younger six' eight civil. Engineer first
fire truck arrives about sixteen minutes After dad first woke.
(02:43):
Up by, then the fire had shattered the windows of
smoke was filled the entire neighborhood is filled with, smoke
and stench of burning wood fills the, area and firefighters
get in the front, door and there they find the
small body of a. Child it was dad's. Friend it
(03:03):
was his, daughter just two years, old barely two years.
Old and there was his. Friend and there was his
young wife twenty, three and there was his young wife's.
Sister an entire family wiped. Out, oh by the, way
the sister died with her arms wrapped around her seven
month old. Daughter all five died of smoke in. Elation
(03:27):
at the same time firefighters are arriving at the. House Neil,
baker a homicide detective For DENVER, pd is awoken by
a call from his. Sergeant neil is in his. Fifties
he's got reading, glasses thinning, hair rosy, face and he
throws on a, suit tells the Wife sea and jumps
in his.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Car he's been a cop for thirty years in The denver.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Area he knows his way around, town but also knows
That Green Valley ranch is a. Mess it is a
rabbit's warren of identical. Roads so he jumped On google
like we all. Do jumped On. Google that night trying
to find the source of the, fire the location of the,
fire not knowing that it would Be google that would
help him solve this. Case it was three weeks before
(04:09):
this fire that a sixteen year Old kevin went into
Central denver to buy a.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Gun kevin had led a charmed.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Life his family had come there From, vietnam but right
before he was born they were well. Off his dad's
accounting business was. Successful they lived In lakewood views of the.
Mountains kevin Wore gucci belts And Air. Jordan's he is a.
Psychopath that sounds like a little. PSYCHOPATH i disliked, school
(04:38):
BUT i was always really good with. It, athletic a,
swimmer inside. Linebacker he was close with his older, Sister,
tanya seven years in age, difference And tanya was friends
With kevin's girlfriend and they were thinking at the time
of getting a dog. Together But kevin And tanya also
liked to deal in fentanyl marijuana and they would find
(05:01):
their customers On. Snapchat And kevin planned to start, karting
which is basically stealing people's credit card information on the dark,
web and he started collecting weapons as seasoned drug dealers
are won to, do and the guys Of kevin had
arranged to meet in Central denver on the day In,
july promised to sell him a.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Gun, instead they robbed.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Him here's this kid From lakewood showing up in His
gucci belt and His jordan's and like a. Place they
rob him of his, cash his, iPhone in his. Shoes,
well this is the, kid know what he's. Doing he was.
Humiliated kevin was. Humiliated he thought he was a big
time drug. Dealer he's this kid from the. Suburbs this
was a time when classes were. Virtual this is during the.
(05:45):
Pandemic football practice had shut. Down classes are. Virtual he
wasn't doing anything but this whole drug snapchat.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Operation and he's.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Pissed he's just sitting in his room getting pissed and
being filled with revenge and feeling, stupid and he decides
to get. Even so he pulls up to find my
device on his iPad and watches as it pings his
phone and it lands At Green Valley ranch and a
pin drops at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street where those
two families. Live the next, Afternoon kevin sends a snapchat
(06:15):
to his Friend, gavin and things got. Rolling his Friend
gavin is also a troubled teenager plagued by insecurity struggles
with multiple learning, disabilities not great in school as opposed
To kevin's perfect cookie cutter. Life gavin's parents split when
he was, young father not. Absent he also has idle
(06:37):
hands a lot of. Time and they decide to go
after the people at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street the
people they thought Robbed. Kevin so we're talking true Crime,
tuesday and this is a story about a man who
awoke and his house was on, fire and, unfortunately the
(06:58):
other family that lived there. Perished and this all started
when a teenager who fancied himself a drug dealer and
Suburban denver decided to go to the big city and
buy a weapon and he was robbed because the people
who he was buying it from knew what they had
on their. Hands and it was a kid from the
suburbs who was not a real drug dealer and needed
(07:19):
to be, robbed taken down a. Notch And kevin is his,
name was very. Mad he was, disgraced his self image was.
Suffering his self image is a, winner a, champ top dog.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Shattered so he searched that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Address remember he used to find my iPhone app and
he found the pin at fifty three to Twelve Truckee,
street the house that would later three weeks later burn
to the. Ground he searched that address thirteen. Times he
searched it On, zillow and he persuaded his, friend who
was kind of a, loner not a, success not a top,
(07:54):
dog a go along to get along Friend, dylan who
was about sixteen as, well and another friend of fourteen
Old dylan to help him exact. Revenge so they all
three of them had searched the address multiple times and they.
Decided they later insisted that they just wanted to vandalize the,
place you, know throw rocks at the, windows egg the.
Place but somehow things took a darker, turn and On august,
(08:19):
First kevin Mentioned dylan hashtag possibly ruin our futures and
burn his house. Down three evenings, later they all go
To Party city to buy black theater. Masks they grab
dinner At wendy's On august, fifth about one, am they
pile Into kevin's. Camera they stop at a gas station
fill a red fuel canister to the. Brim they set
off for that. Home they saw a minivan parked outside
(08:43):
a family. Vehicle they found the house's back door. Unlocked
they doused the gas on the living room walls and the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Floors they set it on fire and they took. Off
now back To.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Detective baker who was, there and everything's on fire and
the air tastes like app and they tear told right
away there could be five. FATALITIES a neighbor actually has
some video footage to, share but it's not, great three
figures in hoodies and. Masks but at least it put
to bed the idea that maybe this was falsy.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wiring it was.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Not but they can't tell who these people. Are the detective, thinking,
oh you're kidding. Me they're five people. Murdered their only
lead is a few seconds of video that reveal nothing
about the criminal's. Identity, well they the. BOYS i call
them boys because they're sixteen and. Fourteen they begin to
(09:38):
realize that this thing has made the, headlines and the, Leader,
kevin realizes that they targeted the wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
House they killed a.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Family but the cops go.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
On and they do their.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Jobs they go through video, footage they, clips they piece
together clips from nearby ring. Cameras they see that the
the suspects were in took a series of wrong, turns
but the videos weren't enough to make out the make
or model of the. Car they triangulated the cell tower
(10:13):
information as.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well there were about.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Fifteen hundred devices registered TO tea mobile within a mile
of the house when it, Ignited so they checked off
the bouncing from one cell tower to the, next and
they narrowed the list down to one hundred devices nearer
the house at the time of. Ignition all of the,
things these are things that are. Done it's just common
(10:39):
protocol now of. Days but nothing pointed to any obvious.
Suspects but they were still convinced there would be something
that would give them the breakthrough they. Needed but the
months went on and the progress on the case began to.
Falter the tips stopped rolling, in the psychics started. Calling
(11:00):
they're feeling the pressure, Right and then this is in
the midst of The Black Lives matter, protests and the
victims in this case are people of, color and is
this a reason why the investigation is? Dragging so the
detectives do what detectives are not always want to.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Do they ask for fresh.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Eyes they plead with colleagues for ideas was there anything
we haven't, Tried and another detective, wonders maybe if the
perpetrators had googled the address before heading, there Perhaps google
had a record of that. Search perhaps you could match
up the people that had googled that exact address with
the cell phone records that pinged off the towers in
(11:38):
the area when that house went, up and there would
be a common, name and guess what there was and
it Was kevin's. Name there was a lot of high,
fiving but they realized it was too soon to fully,
celebrate and in, fact what a legal hurdle this would
(11:59):
turn out to.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Be they were able to.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Dive into all of the kids' social, media all their
messages back and, forth but kind of looks like they
were going to hit a hurdle with allowing That google
search to be the main pin in the. Case one
of the defendant's lawyers announced that The Colorado Supreme court
(12:26):
had agreed to address the constitutionality of a keyword. Warrant,
now this verdict would only apply In, colorado but it
would influence law enforcement's behavior in other, states potentially THE
Us department Of justices stance on these warrants as. Well
this is quite the legal. Process they heard arguments The
(12:46):
Supreme court. Did one of the defendant's attorneys argued that
reverse keyword searches were alarmingly similar to geofense, warrants which
they had begun to question in courts across the country
the constitutionality of such. Warrants and you, know you can't
just ask for whoever searched this and then narrow it.
(13:09):
Down that's a violation of price casting too large of a.
Net but ultimately the court ruled in their. Favor so
one slid by the, goals slid by the. Net there
there are now police departments from across the country regularly
(13:31):
calling these detectives asking for a copy of their. Warrant In,
denver they've said that they would only be very careful
about using this. Again but already police departments are, saying,
hey we could really use. That no systemic data is
being collected on how often reverse keywords warrants are being,
(13:52):
used but it's. Possible there have been hundreds of examples to.
Date by the, way by the summer of last, year
all three teams had accepted plea. Deals the youngest one
got ten years in. Juvie kevin got Sixty dylan got,
forty both in adult. Prison kevin got the harshest sentence
because he masterminded the. Arson oh and he was also
(14:15):
caught with ninety two pills of. Fentanyl but to the, victims,
then of this is. Enough the husband of the sister
of the other family had never.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Met his young. Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Man he, says you took away from, me my, wife
the most beautiful THING i ever. Had you took away
from me my baby THAT i never had a chance to.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Meet it's just. Heartbreaking
If you love police work, you will love this edition
of True Crime Tuesday. The story is true, sounds true?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Gary and
Shannon present True Crime.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We'll start with the crime itself, Arson that led to murder.
It was just after two thirty a m. August fifth,
twenty twenty. People are just coming out of the pandemic
of the lockdowns. Amadal Sao woke to the shrieking sound
that could only be smoke detectors and his home there
(00:45):
in the suburbs of Denver was on fire.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's forty six.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He rushes to his bedroom door, but a column of
smoke and heat beat him back. He's panic. He runs
to the rear window, breaks the screen with his hand,
and jumps the two story drop, fractured his left foot.
His wife woke their daughter, who shared their room. She
(01:13):
dragged the ten year old little girls of the window
and pushed her out. Dad tried to catch her but missed. Miraculously,
she landed on her hands and feet uninjured. Then it
was Mom's turn. When she leaped, she fell on her back,
shattered her spine in two places. Dad barely hurt. His
wife's howls of pain. He was thinking about their twenty
(01:35):
two year old son. He couldn't see any movement in
the son's room. He hurls a rock through the window,
but the glass was steady, it didn't break, and he
just feel filled with despair. I mean, the whole place
is on fire. Then he notices that a son's car
wasn't in the driveway. Thank god, his family is safe,
But what about the other people in the house. At
(01:57):
that time, nine people called it home. It was at
fifty three to twelve Truckee Street. The dad had bought
the four bedroom property and Green Valley Ranch area in
twenty eighteen. This was a newly built neighborhood, sparsely populated,
kind of cut off from the city, kind of giving
an isolated ghost town feel, and it was a refuge.
(02:20):
Dad is from Senegal. He's an immigrant work nights at Walmart.
Not long after his family moved in, his old friend
and his family joined them as well. His friend's twenty
nine years old much younger six' eight civil. Engineer first
fire truck arrives about sixteen minutes After dad first woke.
(02:43):
Up by, then the fire had shattered the windows of
smoke was filled the entire neighborhood is filled with, smoke
and stench of burning wood fills the, area and firefighters
get in the front, door and there they find the
small body of a. Child it was dad's. Friend it
(03:03):
was his, daughter just two years, old barely two years.
Old and there was his. Friend and there was his
young wife twenty, three and there was his young wife's.
Sister an entire family wiped. Out, oh by the, way
the sister died with her arms wrapped around her seven
month old. Daughter all five died of smoke in. Elation
(03:27):
at the same time firefighters are arriving at the. House Neil,
baker a homicide detective For DENVER, pd is awoken by
a call from his. Sergeant neil is in his. Fifties
he's got reading, glasses thinning, hair rosy, face and he
throws on a, suit tells the Wife sea and jumps
in his.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Car he's been a cop for thirty years in The denver.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Area he knows his way around, town but also knows
That Green Valley ranch is a. Mess it is a
rabbit's warren of identical. Roads so he jumped On google
like we all. Do jumped On. Google that night trying
to find the source of the, fire the location of the,
fire not knowing that it would Be google that would
help him solve this. Case it was three weeks before
(04:09):
this fire that a sixteen year Old kevin went into
Central denver to buy a.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Gun kevin had led a charmed.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Life his family had come there From, vietnam but right
before he was born they were well. Off his dad's
accounting business was. Successful they lived In lakewood views of the.
Mountains kevin Wore gucci belts And Air. Jordan's he is a.
Psychopath that sounds like a little. PSYCHOPATH i disliked, school
(04:38):
BUT i was always really good with. It, athletic a,
swimmer inside. Linebacker he was close with his older, Sister,
tanya seven years in age, difference And tanya was friends
With kevin's girlfriend and they were thinking at the time
of getting a dog. Together But kevin And tanya also
liked to deal in fentanyl marijuana and they would find
(05:01):
their customers On. Snapchat And kevin planned to start, karting
which is basically stealing people's credit card information on the dark,
web and he started collecting weapons as seasoned drug dealers
are won to, do and the guys Of kevin had
arranged to meet in Central denver on the day In,
july promised to sell him a.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Gun, instead they robbed.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Him here's this kid From lakewood showing up in His
gucci belt and His jordan's and like a. Place they
rob him of his, cash his, iPhone in his. Shoes,
well this is the, kid know what he's. Doing he was.
Humiliated kevin was. Humiliated he thought he was a big
time drug. Dealer he's this kid from the. Suburbs this
was a time when classes were. Virtual this is during the.
(05:45):
Pandemic football practice had shut. Down classes are. Virtual he
wasn't doing anything but this whole drug snapchat.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Operation and he's.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Pissed he's just sitting in his room getting pissed and
being filled with revenge and feeling, stupid and he decides
to get. Even so he pulls up to find my
device on his iPad and watches as it pings his
phone and it lands At Green Valley ranch and a
pin drops at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street where those
two families. Live the next, Afternoon kevin sends a snapchat
(06:15):
to his Friend, gavin and things got. Rolling his Friend
gavin is also a troubled teenager plagued by insecurity struggles
with multiple learning, disabilities not great in school as opposed
To kevin's perfect cookie cutter. Life gavin's parents split when
he was, young father not. Absent he also has idle
(06:37):
hands a lot of. Time and they decide to go
after the people at fifty three Twelve Trucky, street the
people they thought Robbed. Kevin so we're talking true Crime,
tuesday and this is a story about a man who
awoke and his house was on, fire and, unfortunately the
(06:58):
other family that lived there. Perished and this all started
when a teenager who fancied himself a drug dealer and
Suburban denver decided to go to the big city and
buy a weapon and he was robbed because the people
who he was buying it from knew what they had
on their. Hands and it was a kid from the
suburbs who was not a real drug dealer and needed
(07:19):
to be, robbed taken down a. Notch And kevin is his,
name was very. Mad he was, disgraced his self image was.
Suffering his self image is a, winner a, champ top dog.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Shattered so he searched that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Address remember he used to find my iPhone app and
he found the pin at fifty three to Twelve Truckee,
street the house that would later three weeks later burn
to the. Ground he searched that address thirteen. Times he
searched it On, zillow and he persuaded his, friend who
was kind of a, loner not a, success not a top,
(07:54):
dog a go along to get along Friend, dylan who
was about sixteen as, well and another friend of fourteen
Old dylan to help him exact. Revenge so they all
three of them had searched the address multiple times and they.
Decided they later insisted that they just wanted to vandalize the,
place you, know throw rocks at the, windows egg the.
Place but somehow things took a darker, turn and On august,
(08:19):
First kevin Mentioned dylan hashtag possibly ruin our futures and
burn his house. Down three evenings, later they all go
To Party city to buy black theater. Masks they grab
dinner At wendy's On august, fifth about one, am they
pile Into kevin's. Camera they stop at a gas station
fill a red fuel canister to the. Brim they set
off for that. Home they saw a minivan parked outside
(08:43):
a family. Vehicle they found the house's back door. Unlocked
they doused the gas on the living room walls and the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Floors they set it on fire and they took. Off
now back To.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Detective baker who was, there and everything's on fire and
the air tastes like app and they tear told right
away there could be five. FATALITIES a neighbor actually has
some video footage to, share but it's not, great three
figures in hoodies and. Masks but at least it put
to bed the idea that maybe this was falsy.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Wiring it was.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Not but they can't tell who these people. Are the detective, thinking,
oh you're kidding. Me they're five people. Murdered their only
lead is a few seconds of video that reveal nothing
about the criminal's. Identity, well they the. BOYS i call
them boys because they're sixteen and. Fourteen they begin to
(09:38):
realize that this thing has made the, headlines and the, Leader,
kevin realizes that they targeted the wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
House they killed a.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Family but the cops go.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
On and they do their.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Jobs they go through video, footage they, clips they piece
together clips from nearby ring. Cameras they see that the
the suspects were in took a series of wrong, turns
but the videos weren't enough to make out the make
or model of the. Car they triangulated the cell tower
(10:13):
information as.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well there were about.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Fifteen hundred devices registered TO tea mobile within a mile
of the house when it, Ignited so they checked off
the bouncing from one cell tower to the, next and
they narrowed the list down to one hundred devices nearer
the house at the time of. Ignition all of the,
things these are things that are. Done it's just common
(10:39):
protocol now of. Days but nothing pointed to any obvious.
Suspects but they were still convinced there would be something
that would give them the breakthrough they. Needed but the
months went on and the progress on the case began to.
Falter the tips stopped rolling, in the psychics started. Calling
(11:00):
they're feeling the pressure, Right and then this is in
the midst of The Black Lives matter, protests and the
victims in this case are people of, color and is
this a reason why the investigation is? Dragging so the
detectives do what detectives are not always want to.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Do they ask for fresh.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Eyes they plead with colleagues for ideas was there anything
we haven't, Tried and another detective, wonders maybe if the
perpetrators had googled the address before heading, there Perhaps google
had a record of that. Search perhaps you could match
up the people that had googled that exact address with
the cell phone records that pinged off the towers in
(11:38):
the area when that house went, up and there would
be a common, name and guess what there was and
it Was kevin's. Name there was a lot of high,
fiving but they realized it was too soon to fully,
celebrate and in, fact what a legal hurdle this would
(11:59):
turn out to.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Be they were able to.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Dive into all of the kids' social, media all their
messages back and, forth but kind of looks like they
were going to hit a hurdle with allowing That google
search to be the main pin in the. Case one
of the defendant's lawyers announced that The Colorado Supreme court
(12:26):
had agreed to address the constitutionality of a keyword. Warrant,
now this verdict would only apply In, colorado but it
would influence law enforcement's behavior in other, states potentially THE
Us department Of justices stance on these warrants as. Well
this is quite the legal. Process they heard arguments The
(12:46):
Supreme court. Did one of the defendant's attorneys argued that
reverse keyword searches were alarmingly similar to geofense, warrants which
they had begun to question in courts across the country
the constitutionality of such. Warrants and you, know you can't
just ask for whoever searched this and then narrow it.
(13:09):
Down that's a violation of price casting too large of a.
Net but ultimately the court ruled in their. Favor so
one slid by the, goals slid by the. Net there
there are now police departments from across the country regularly
(13:31):
calling these detectives asking for a copy of their. Warrant In,
denver they've said that they would only be very careful
about using this. Again but already police departments are, saying,
hey we could really use. That no systemic data is
being collected on how often reverse keywords warrants are being,
(13:52):
used but it's. Possible there have been hundreds of examples to.
Date by the, way by the summer of last, year
all three teams had accepted plea. Deals the youngest one
got ten years in. Juvie kevin got Sixty dylan got,
forty both in adult. Prison kevin got the harshest sentence
because he masterminded the. Arson oh and he was also
(14:15):
caught with ninety two pills of. Fentanyl but to the, victims,
then of this is. Enough the husband of the sister
of the other family had never.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Met his young. Baby.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Man he, says you took away from, me my, wife
the most beautiful THING i ever. Had you took away
from me my baby THAT i never had a chance to.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Meet it's just. Heartbreaking
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