December 22, 2024 • 35 mins
Marla Tellez talks with Matt Capelouto on Alexandras Law, Marcia Clark on “Trial By Ambush”, and more! It's all live on KFI AM 640!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Get
it Bill, so you get it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Marla.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You're writing solo.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
Oh, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
If I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio,
I am Marlteaz. You may know me from Fox eleven,
where you can catch me weeknights at six and eleven
and then every once in a while. I'm blessed to
be able to sit right here in the KFI studio
in Burbank and fill in.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I've actually never sat in this seat.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
This is the Gary Hoffman seat as far as I'm concerned,
because and the John Cobalt and the Mo Kelly. This
is the big Week's the chair. I'm in the grown
up chair today, folks. I'm growing up. This is my
first solo show, but I've said since we started at
two o'clock because I'm not solo at all.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I got Andrew, I got Bella, and I have producer Kayla.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You all are making me feel so at home and
so at ease, So I thank you so much. All Right,
I want to get to our next guest, who I'm
looking for to talking to.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
He is a force.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
He has worked valiantly over the last five years to
get Alexandra's Law passed. He did that, and this law
holds drug dealers accountable. He and his wife they lost
their daughter, Alexandra, whom, of course, this law was named after,
to fentanyl poisoning. That was five years ago. He's been
on a crusade ever since. It has not been easy.
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He did not give up and it has paid off
for him. Matt Cappaluto, he joins me. Now on the line.
You are southern California based. I believe you're coming to
us from Riverside County. Matt, thank you so much for
being here today. I know you were on with John
Colbalt earlier in the week. I know our Hal Eisner
at Fox eleven also featured you, but I wanted to
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bring you on because I think it's just such an
important topic to delve into, and that is Alexandra's Law.
Congratulations on getting this on the books officially.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hi Marla, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think Alexandra's Law is going to be a game
changer in the drug trade, so I appreciate you giving
it attention absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You know what, before though, I get into the nitty
gritty of the law. I want you to tell us,
you know, summarize if you will, your daughter, Alexandra.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
What kind of a young lady was she?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Alexandra was a young lady. She was going to college.
She was very smart. She had a full academic scholarship
to a major university. Alex also had some issues. She
suffered from depression and anxiety. Was clinically diagnosed with what's
called massive depressive disorder in her teenage years, and at
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some point, unbeknownst to us, she started self medicating. And
while she was home for Christmas break in twenty nineteen,
two days before Christmas. In fact, five years ago, today
was the last day my wife and I saw her alive.
She was a drug dealer in search of the prescription
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painkiller percoset. Day drug dealer ended up selling her counterfeit pills.
She took half of one of these pills before going
to bed, because the other half was found on her dresser,
and it killed her very quickly, because these pills were
simply packed with lethal dose. As a sentinel.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So sorry, I'm so sorry to hear that. I can
feel your heartache. My heart aches for you. Of course,
our condolences for your daughter, for your loss to you
and your wife. You know you are a champion though,
and you've turned this pain into purpose. And Alexander's Law
went into effect Wednesday, this past Wednesday. What was news
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to me, and I'm in the news business, Matt, is
that this was this flew under the radar, really because
it was part of Prop thirty six, and that's the
reform of Prop. Forty seven that you know increases penalties
for drug crimes, et cetera. So we know that Prop
thirty six, it was passed by almost seventy percent overwhelmingly
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in the state of Caia, California, and in that is
Alexandra's Law. And so tell us what Alexandra's Law does
in terms of holding drug dealers accountable, because it's not
just for fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Sure, it could be various hard drugs. But I want
to make one more point in regards to my daughter.
I like to emphasize this. My daughter did make a
poor choice to purchase what she believed was a prescription
drug illegally. There's no doubt it was a poor choice,
but it was not an evil choice. The evil choice
was made by the man who knew he was selling
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counterfeit pills and profited off of her life, not giving
a damn about her one bit. And I was surprised
at this time that we did not have a law
in California to hold people like drug dealers like this accountable.
So what Alexandra's Law does? It really refrains drug related
deaths from being viewed as accidental overdoses to actually being
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prosecutable homicides. Alexandra's Law is an admonishment given in court
to someone convicted of a drug offense. It makes you
aware that drugs are dangerous and deadly to human life,
and if you provide drugs that result in a death,
you can be charged with murder. The admonishment is documented
in court records and also given to the defendant and writing,
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and the goal is really to deter a drug dealer
from becoming a death dealer. We want them to stop.
But if this warning is ignored, it can serve as
evidence of what is known as implied malice, which can
be used to charge murder. Under an implied malice murder
prosecutors don't need to prove someone intended to kill. They
simply need to prove someone, in this case, a drug
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dealer was aware of their actions, and despite knowing the
dangers of their actions, they did it anyways. And let
me make one more point. Anyone who lost someone at
the hands of a drug dealer that had a prior
drug related arrest might be alive today if our legislature
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had passed this over four years ago when we first
introduced it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, because as mentioned, you've been on this path to
get this passed for five years and it has failed
in the California legislature not once, not twice, I think
even more than three times, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it was introduced three times, but heard between our
Senate Public Safety Committee and Assembly Public Safety committees. It
was heard a total of seven times. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Alexander's dealer and correct me if I'm wrong, was indicted
on federal charges of distributing fentanyl resulting and death.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. Fortunately, our federal laws are a bit better than
our state laws. And two years for death. He was
arrested on the charges of distribution of sentinel resulting in death.
And I would want to make another point. These people
don't stop. He knew alex was dead within two weeks
after her dying, and within a couple of weeks of
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that knowledge, he was reaching out to his supplier to
purchase more of these death pills. So we have to
have a means of locking these people up. You know,
there's arguments those who oppose essay that locking up these
street level dealers doesn't do any good. I beg to differ.
I don't know how many lives this man is responsible for,
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but if he was not locked up right now, I
can guarantee you there would be more lives lost in
his hands. And that's how it is with these street
level dealers these days.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'll ask this most respectfully, and this is going to
be my last question because we are at a time.
But has this has your fight and the conclusion of it,
the fact that Alexander's law is now on the books.
Has this given you and your wife some sort of
closure that you didn't feel prior.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, anybody who's lost a child knows there's never closure.
We learned to keep moving forward. But you know, this
is a gift for the holidays. There's no doubt that
we're pleased at this past and it gives us some
solace during this time of year. But there's still work
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to be done. Just because this law has passed, we're
going to still need law enforcement to their job to
do their job, and that is to arrest and for
prosecutors to prosecute these drug related crimes so people do
get this admonishment. We need to get as many people
as many people involved in the drug trade as admonished
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as possible so it can actually do what it's supposed
to do and save lives.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I know you also have a nonprofit. Why don't you
give that website so people can learn more about you.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Thank you. Anybody can learn more about what we do
at Stop Drug Homicide dot org.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Stop drug homicides, homicides or homicide.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, homicide not plural side drug homicide.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Stop drug Homicide dot org to learn more about Matt
Cappaludo Alexander's Law. We thank you so much for taking
the time out. I hope that you and your wife
can have a happy holiday season despite the backdrop of
all this. But congratulations again on Alexander's Law.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Hello everybody on this Sunday afternoon, three days before Christmas
and Hanukkah. On this Wednesday, it's been almost twenty years
since the two have landed on the same day. So
there's a little trivia. If you didn't know that already,
I'm Marlataeus. You might know me from Fox eleven and
then also from film in here every once in a while,
typically on the Gary and Channon Show nine to one.
(09:40):
Of course, you know that Monday through Friday, the incomparable
Gary and Shannon. Good to be here on this Sunday afternoon.
I have neglected the talk back. I was pretty good
off the top of the hour in the two o'clock hour,
but I want to remind you we do want to
hear from you. So if you have a comment about
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what Kayla. I think it's a max of fifteen seconds,
thirty seconds, thirty seconds, okay, so you can voice your
frustrations or your pleasure with the show in thirty seconds.
So earlier this week we were just talking about Alexander's
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Law went into effect on Wednesday, but earlier this week
we had on the Fox elevenues at six o'clock, I
had a local assemblyman out of Riverside County, Bill A. Saley, Republican.
He joined me in studio to talk about a new
bill that he reintroduced to the California legislature this last
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couple of weeks, right after the Oroville school shooting. You
may recall that happened in the beginning of December up
in northern California at a Christian school. A gunman went
on there, opened fire, left to kinder gardeners in critical condition.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And Bill A.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Saley based out of Riverside County, he out of Corona specifically,
he reintroduced legislation that he tried to get passed before,
and that is to require armed police officers, armed officers,
armed guards at every California school campus.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Moving forward.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And he when I say he reintroduced this, he had
tried to do this almost two years ago. But we
know that there's a Democratic supermajority in Sacramento, so it
did not pass well. He is now on a mission
to get this passed to increase what he says, school security,
school safety for students again, to have an armed officer
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on every California school campus.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Here's a clip when he was with me earlier this week.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
This would make it a state wide issue, and it
would be state law that there will be a school
resource officer, especially trained armed officer, on every school campus.
I'm talking elementary through high school, and the state would
pay for it because it's an important issue.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Is there evidence that having a school police officer, a
school resource officer actually makes the difference, Because, of course
we can all point to what happened at rob Elementary
and Uvalde, Texas. That district said they had threat assessment teams,
perimeter fencering around the school, yet nineteen.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Children were killed, two teachers.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Is there evidence, well, what happened, you've all doe was
a failure. And I think when we have police officers
that actually do their job, and I think most of
them do a great job. By the way, we know
that seconds matter, and I've been in law enforcement. I
can tell you the only thing you could do when
there's a mad person with a gun is you need
a police officer there who can put them down quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
There are private schools, there are cath of schools, for instance,
that already have armed officers. Have you visited those schools
to talk about how this works, how it has potentially
prevented something terrible from happening.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
I can just tell you based of my experience working
with police departments, working with school resource officers, not only
for school shootings, but also all kinds of other incidences
at school, whether it's assault cases or there's some social
issues going on with the kids. The police officer are
a great resource and I think we should be welcoming
them on campus. They provide an additional level of safety
and security. And frankly, why should the politicians in Sacramento
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have more security than our kids in school?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Democratic majority?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Of course in Sacramento, you had a bill last year
that basically that was essentially this and it died, didn't
get out a committee.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And that was almost two years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What's different now, what's changed is still Democratic majority.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Well, I'm hoping that these shootings make a difference. I mean,
what is their solution? And we've had multiple school shootings
now just in.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The last two weeks.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Kids are literally being gunned down at school by gunmen,
So what is their solution? Only thing the Democrats offer
are more gun laws, and I would submit that we've
already passed almost every gun law that's possible in the
state of California. We have the Second Amendment. You're not
going to take guns away. Let's give our kids a
chance and let's protect them. Like I said, give them
the same protection that I have in Sacramento. If cops
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don't work, then let's take the cops away from the politicians.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah. That his last sentence there, if the cops don't work,
then take them away from the politicians in Sacramento, noting
that ourslat legislators in California they get security, and his
point is the kids need security too. I want to
get your thoughts on this, Kayla, what do you think
about this idea.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I think that it's a good idea.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
I think that there hasn't been enough solutions that the
school shooting number is going down, so I think that
it could only help the situation, because the situation seems
to be getting worse and worse year after year. I
just really hope that they vet the officers that they
put into these situations and hope that they are from
the communities of the schools that they are protecting, because
sometimes some communities don't feel safe even with officers. So
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we've got to make sure the officers are from the
communities that they're protecting, so they understand the children and
the children can feel safe with them and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, you know, I was heard from some parents and said,
it's bad enough that my child already has to do
lockdown drill.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You know, these little.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Idy bed things that are going to school and they
have to know what a lockdown drill is and what
to do in the event of a school shooter. But
that is the reality, and that is as Sally's point
these days, and those same parents says, heartbreaking newt as
it is to send their kids to school to have
to do a lockdown. Man evem reach out to me
and said, but this is what we need to do,
so they are on the side of a saie. But again,
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you know, he didn't necessarily have a great answer when
I asked, what's changed in terms of the votes, because
that's what it's going to take. And his one answer was, sure,
it's still a democratic super majority in Sacramento, but it's
up to the people. When the people rally and say
we want this, and the politicians need to listen to
the constituents, then that's when he says action would be taken.
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So it's on the onus, he says, at this point
of the constituents up and down the state of California.
So we will continue to watch that and see what
comes of that. It's going to be a fight, but
a sale is hard pressed and he will. He's committed
to seeing this through, so we'll see what happens with that. Again,
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let me just make sure that I got that correct
when I say it is Assembly bill. If you want
to do your own homework, Assembly Bill sixty eight against
just reintroduced by Republican assembly member out of Riverside County,
Bill Assali.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All right, still to come.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'm very much looking forward to this conversation because I
just finished her podcast and it is gripping, and I
hope I think you'll find it interesting too. Marcia Clark,
of course, the famed attorney, lead prosecutor in the OJ
Simpson trial. She's out with a new book, a new podcast.
She's going to be joining the program coming up next.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Thanks so much for chiming in on the talk back.
We've got quite a few talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
We appreciate that we're going to play those coming up,
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Speaker 5 (17:04):
Like I've been saying, we have fixed skin around here.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, a woman who does have fixed skin is someone
I admire and had the pleasure of interviewing on Fox
eleven News at six o'clock. Recently, she's got a new
book out. You may not know her as an author,
but she is a New York Times bestselling author, so
now you are aware. It's Marcia Clark, of course, lead
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prosecutor in the OJ Simpson trial, famed attorney as mentioned,
New York Times bestselling author, She's a TV producer, and
she has a podcast. I listened to that podcast. It
is fascinating stuff. So I'm so excited to have Marcia
joining the program. Good to have you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Thanks for shlving me.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So I talked to you not long ago. We were
talking about your book. I want to start with a
book because I made the tie in KFI is located
here in Burbank. You have a brand new book out
just released. It's called Trial by Ambush, and this is
about a murder that happened in Burbank in the nineteen fifties.
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It was really known as the trial of the Century
before you, in turn, got the Trial of the Century
in the nineteen nineties. You said that you stumbled upon
this and you were just hooked and you had to
write about it.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Why it was.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
A fascinating case, And you're right. It happened in Burbank.
It's a quiet residential neighborhood, as you know, and these
kind of things just didn't happen there. It was a
home Ephasian Robert burglary of an elderly woman, Nabel Monahan.
She was found bludgeoned to death and strangled to death
in her home. It turned out to be a group
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of four who broke into her home in the belief
that there would be a safe filled with money, which
turned out to be completely false. And in the center
of this trial was Barbara Graham, peat woman very beautiful,
I don't have any violent crime in her background, and
it just didn't fit a woman like that. Sitting in
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the middle of those thugs in the courtroom, and she
wound up becoming the centerpiece of the whole trial because
the press went nuts with her.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And come to find out, when you stumbled upout this case,
you realized you thought that somebody had done this already,
that there's got to be a lot of books about
this case because it was that fascinating, and you found
out there wasn't.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, it was a shock, I have to say. I
didn't expect that at all. I thought, well, we should
tell everybody. In nineteen fifty three, when this crime happened,
it was its own trial of the century, and so
it was covered very heavily by the press. And so
there were a lot of newspapers back then and they
covered morning, noon, and night. They were all over the place,
and it got national attention as well. And then after
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she was put to death, there was a film made
about it called I Want to Live. You can still
see it, I'm sure you look up, you know, on
the streaming, and Susan Hayward played Barbara Graham and won
an Oscar for it Best Actress. So it was a
very famous case and I thought there'd be a lot
written about it all books, and it turned out there
really wasn't. So it was wide open and certainly no
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one had written about the trial. And I thought the
answer to how Barbara, who seems so unlikely, wound up
as the centerpiece of that trial when she very unlikely
that she was really involved in the murder itself, had
to be in what happened during that trial. And sure
enough it did. But you know, getting those transcripts, that
was a whole journey in itself.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I'm sure it was okay.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So again, the book is called Trial by Ambush, about
a murder that happened in Burbank in nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Marcia Clark writes about it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Please check out that book and please check out her
new podcast too.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
This is on Wondery Plus.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Download the app Wondery Plus and you can listen to
Informants Lawyer X Marcia.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I listened to this.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
It's a nine part series and this is about a
case that rocked Australia, a legal case that rocked Australia.
The center of it is a defense attorney turned police informant,
Nikola Gobo and she is currently in hiding. And you
tell the story. Why did you want to write about
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this story.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
It was just such a wild story. Now, this one's current.
This is all happening in the two thousands. She was
one of the most high profile criminal defense attorneys in
Australia and particularly in Melbourne, which is a very lovely city.
But there was the gangland wars that were happening around
that time in the early aughts and late nineties where
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mes and fennamon and ecstasy were flooding the markets, and
they were the drug trade had exploded, with gangland wars
over the turf being fought by all these drug lords
and these kingpins who were making millions out of it.
She was representing the worst of the worst, the most
notorious of them, and she eventually turned police informant and
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while she was still representing her clients and passing information
back and forth between the clients and the police. It
was one of the most incredible stories I've ever seen.
I've never heard of a thing like this before. It
wound up when the case broke, they wound up holding
a Royal Commission hearing that went on for some period
of time where police and Nicolagabo, everybody was hauled before
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the court to talk about their role in it. Fascinating,
fascinating story that was just It's like something if I
wrote this in a script.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
It would be unbelievable. It would really be unbelievable. I mean,
this character and again real life in hiding. Right now,
I'm not going to give it away because I can't
believe how this ended. I mean, you had me on
pins and needles at the end in episode nine and
I'm still shocked of the outcome of this one. So again,
this is called informants lawyer X on wondery plus check
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that out.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
While I have you.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Of course, you know your name became a household name
in the nineteen nineties as a lead prosecutor in the O. J.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Simpson trial.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I asked you the other night sort of you know,
do you look at that case as a blessing or
a curse? And it sort of hindsights twenty twenty sort
of a thing. But one thing you did say is
it essentially changed your life trajectory.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Can you elaborate on that? How did that trial change
your life?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I had God joined the Day's office thinking that that
was going to be where I ended everything. I was
going to be there forever and I expected them to
carry me out of the courtroom in a pine box.
So I did not expect to be doing anything other
than prosecuting cases for the rest of my career, you know,
And so they since in trial, changed all that and
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kind of threw me out into the world and you know,
doing a lot of different things, producing for television and
writing scripts and writing books on making doing podcasts, just
a whole lot of different things. It was certainly a
nothing I could anticipate. But you know what they say,
man plans and God laughs.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yes, yeah, and that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
H Well, no shortage of material for you, because there
is an obsession. And it's not just an American obsession.
It's a global obsession with true crime. Why why are
we so fascinated with true crime?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
You know, it's a good question. I'm fascinated by true crime.
That's why I became a criminal lawyer. I can only
speak for myself, although I think probably togethers will feel
the same. It's an ultimate mystery, especially when it comes
to murder, which is, you know, the the ultimate app
in terms of crime, and the stakes are so high
and you know, there's life and death and you have
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a victim, who will who has lost their lives? And
the reason, the reasons why they do this. It's not
just who done it, but increasingly in this day and age,
it's why, Why does somebody what pushes someone to commit
an app like that? How do you wind up in
that situation? It's it's endlessly intriguing and mystifying, and I
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think that we are constantly trying, I think, to solve
that puzzle.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, our appetite for true crime is very strong. I
don't think that's going anywhere either. So you have a
lot of work ahead of you, no doubt, and I'll
be looking for your latest work. So again, Marcia Clark
on the line with us. She has a new book
out it's called Trial by Ambush about a real life
murder that happened in Burbank, and then a podcast out
which is completely fascinating on Wondery Plus Informants Lawyer X.
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There it is Marcia Clark. Thanks so much for taking
the time out. Happy holidays to you and your family.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
And to you as well. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It was my pleasure, our pleasure today. Okay, still to come.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We're going to have a little bit of fun We're
going to lighten things up when Kayla, and Andrew and
Bella and maybe even my husband he happens to be
here in studio today, we're going to weigh in on
why millennials and gen Z are calling out baby boomers
for these what they consider bad habits. We'll have a
little bit of fun and we'll also play your talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm Marla Tayas. I'm having way too much fun in here.
I can't believe it's already been almost two hours since
we've been on. Thanks so much to all the listeners
who've taken the time out in the last two hours. Well,
I've been on thanks to Kayla, thanks to Andrew, thanks
to Bella. You've made it so easy.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And we want to get to the talk back.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I understand we have a couple to get too, and
I know one is wonderful for Kayla.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Hey, Marla, I'm down here in San Diego and I
listened to KFI all the time. I just want to
say you're a very refreshing voice, and I'm glad to
glad to listen to you and really get educated on
a lot of issues. Thank you for all you're doing,
and hope you and your family have a merried Christmas.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Okay, that was wonderful for me because you are refreshing
and I did learn a lot in these two hours.
It was amazing working with you. So that was actually
amazing for me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, but I have to just tell you right when
the voice came on, I know you played it earlier,
but I couldn't get a clear voice.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That is my father in law. Is it really? You
just told me that all yeah, yeah, feel.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't know when you played it originally. Okay, I
call him Baz Baz. That's very sweet. Okay, so let's
get that's too funny. Let's get to Kayla's.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Damn Kayla a great point. I'm all about cops and schools,
you know.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
Keep them safe.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But you had a really good point about them being
from the community.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's very good point.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
Awesome, thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
That was a good point. So it's a great I
agree with me one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I agree with you a thousand percent because that gets
to the point of community policing, and we talk about
that how important it is for police officers to get
to know the community because then it just takes away
the stigma.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Of bad cop. Absolutely, and so that's why it's so important.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And if you're you know, just joining in, this is
about the idea of putting there's a new legislation, new
bill that came out that wants to put armed guard cauards,
armed officers on every California school campus. So, Kaylee, great point.
I love having your perspective and I want your perspective
on this too. All right, everybody chime in, and that
includes you know, it's a family affair. Come on, this
(28:13):
is my first time. It's a Sunday. My husband is
here in studio with me because he could be because
it's a Sunday and he loves KFI.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
He's a true fan. So this is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Why Millennials I saw this on a site called Retirely
Why Millennials and gen z are calling out these fourteen
that's a lot fourteen bad baby boomer habits.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We don't need to get to all fourteen.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I've highlighted five that I think we could all probably
relate to. Number one, you won't stop complaining about quote
kids these days, I complain about kids these days.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Okay, so as a millennial, I do that with all
those gen alphas and even the gen z ers like Bella, I.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Can't even I understand the kids these days.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Gen Z is the worst, Like Bella, Ohio toilet, that's
not a thing.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
It's not You're like so beta, Like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Kids? Yeah? I have a fourteen year old sister and
she's technically gen Z, but I don't understand half the
things she says despite being older gen Z.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
So I'm right with you, guys, I feel so old.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
And I'm looking at my husband across at the table
here with the microphone in front of him. We are
gen X. So I'm not I'm transparent. I'm forty eight,
he's fifty one. But I'm the same way kids these days.
I feel like a senior as well. I feel like
I'm a baby boomer because I say it just as well.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
Yeah you do, but I actually probably say it more
than you do, and always think that I'm too old.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
That's right, these kids these days, we're all turning into
our parents. That's that's the reality. Okay, what about this again?
These are bad habits, bad baby boomer habits. According to
millennials and and Gen z ers. You're weirdly proud of
not knowing how technology works.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
I don't know because I do think like every time
new tech comes out, I have to teach it to myself.
And I can't even imagine not growing up with it
in your life, like it makes it like ten times hrd.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Okay, I apologize all the boomers out there, like my mom,
but I grew up with America online, with the modem
right Oh yeah, yeah, in the in the mid nineties
where your parents said, well, you gotta be careful. You
don't know who you're talking to they're on the internet.
This is the same generation that just posts memes like
they're going out of style on Facebook and thinks it's gospel.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yes, that's true, Kayla.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
I want to understand the technology. I'm not proud of
not understanding things. I want to be cool. I want
to be hip or I don't want to be replaced by AI.
I want to know everything that they know. Yeah, so yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
This is the epitome of my own mother, though she
you know, I don't Mom, I sent you the email.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Did you get it?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I don't look at my email.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What's the real thing is she doesn't know how to
look at her email. But then when it comes down
to it, she'll she'll say, can John show me my
husband John?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Can John show me your parents? My in laws? They
are very tech saut, they are very textic, so they're good.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
But but Marvel will attest to this is I love technology,
but when it doesn't work, I can't stand it. So
if I want AirPod charges and only I want, that's
the worst.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, look out now you mentioned the memes Andrew you
write this is one of the quote bad baby boomer habits.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
You write Facebook comments like their letters.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Yet yes, yes you get the notification from your Auntcy
and you're like, I don't like reading this book right now?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Can you not?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
And then the other one is you love forwarding chain emails.
Remember the day.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
If you don't for allow this to ten people, you know,
bad things will happen to you.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
My generation did that too, but on snapchat like of text,
but it would be like like holiday specific, like it
would happen around the holidays.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Lastly, here you you judge them for not owning a home.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I think there's a lot of that that goes boomers
not owning homes. No, the boomers judged us.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Yes, because of their mistakes that we can't hold.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I just want to put it out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
So the boomers blame us for the economy they created,
that they created.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, let's that's screwed.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
There's just it's just I know it's all relative, but
nonetheless it's there's such a whopping difference between now and then.
It says, you know you, they bought their first time
at forty thousand. That's not remotely possible today.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I wish I could buy a home at forty thousand.
I wish I could buy a car at forty.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Thousand, right right, I think I'll ever own a home.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
No, I don't say that.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Shouldn't one day, one day say sure, yeah, we've got
to save some money.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I think Chris marrill's a boomer. We could blame him
for all of them. Oh, no, he's a boomer.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Oh, I think we're in the same boat, Chris.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm a gen xer. I'm a gen xer. Chris.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
No, this is what I have to deal with every week.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
The Hey, Chris, gang up on me. Go ahead, Chris.
Kids these days, the kids these.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Days right, absolute worst. I don't know about you.
Speaker 11 (33:21):
But the older I get, the more scroogye I get.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Too, Yeah, more curmudgeon.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Get into the holidays. And maybe you're one of these
people that gets into the holidays where I just hear
Christmas music and I go, I hit that Christmas.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
You're the Grinch, I am, Oh, come on no.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
And the older I get, the more grinchy I am.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
And my brother keeps breeding and I have to keep
buying crap for his kids for mine.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Well, I'm expecting to Chris. You got Uncle Chris for me?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Zero, zero, nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Well, what can the people expect for you coming up
when you take over to you just complete Grinch style?
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Three hours of me telling you why Christmas sucks and
Kayla and Andrew ganging up on me to tell me
why I need to go to bed early and stop
working in my slippers.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, and don't forget to take your meds while you're
at home.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
You know what I can't stand is that we run
into these millennials and these gen zers and they get
mad at me for double spacing at the end of
my sentences.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But you know what that.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Was drilled into our heads and we failed typing class
if we didn't double space.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And you got to go to the home. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
I know.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
The good comeback is, do you know how to do
right cursive?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I do?
Speaker 11 (34:33):
And it's a waste of time. Yeah yeah, No, I
just hate everything. I'm the biggest missingthrope you will ever meet.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I just hate it all. Why are we teaching algebra?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We don't use it.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Why are we teaching cursive?
Speaker 11 (34:45):
Nobody uses it?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well I like cursive. I think it's a lost art.
You probably have that nice hand right That means you don't.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It's like a doctor wishes.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, all right, doctor Chris Merrill.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
He is coming up next.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Hey can It was really an honor talk with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Nice to talk to.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
You too, Kayla, Andrew Bella, thanks so much for having
me into all the listeners. Thank you and my father
in law. I cannot believe he called in on the
talkback and I didn't catch that.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Oh my god. I love it.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
And guess what, I'll be here next Sunday as well,
two to four next Sunday, so I look forward to
that again.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Have a great week, Happy holidays. I'll talk to you
next Sunday. I'm Marlo TEUs. This is KFI AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Marla.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
You're writing solo.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
Oh, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
If I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio,
I am Marlteaz. You may know me from Fox eleven,
where you can catch me weeknights at six and eleven
and then every once in a while. I'm blessed to
be able to sit right here in the KFI studio
in Burbank and fill in.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I've actually never sat in this seat.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
This is the Gary Hoffman seat as far as I'm concerned,
because and the John Cobalt and the Mo Kelly. This
is the big Week's the chair. I'm in the grown
up chair today, folks. I'm growing up. This is my
first solo show, but I've said since we started at
two o'clock because I'm not solo at all.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I got Andrew, I got Bella, and I have producer Kayla.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You all are making me feel so at home and
so at ease, So I thank you so much. All Right,
I want to get to our next guest, who I'm
looking for to talking to.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
He is a force.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
He has worked valiantly over the last five years to
get Alexandra's Law passed. He did that, and this law
holds drug dealers accountable. He and his wife they lost
their daughter, Alexandra, whom, of course, this law was named after,
to fentanyl poisoning. That was five years ago. He's been
on a crusade ever since. It has not been easy.
(01:24):
He did not give up and it has paid off
for him. Matt Cappaluto, he joins me. Now on the line.
You are southern California based. I believe you're coming to
us from Riverside County. Matt, thank you so much for
being here today. I know you were on with John
Colbalt earlier in the week. I know our Hal Eisner
at Fox eleven also featured you, but I wanted to
(01:44):
bring you on because I think it's just such an
important topic to delve into, and that is Alexandra's Law.
Congratulations on getting this on the books officially.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hi Marla, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think Alexandra's Law is going to be a game
changer in the drug trade, so I appreciate you giving
it attention absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You know what, before though, I get into the nitty
gritty of the law. I want you to tell us,
you know, summarize if you will, your daughter, Alexandra.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
What kind of a young lady was she?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Alexandra was a young lady. She was going to college.
She was very smart. She had a full academic scholarship
to a major university. Alex also had some issues. She
suffered from depression and anxiety. Was clinically diagnosed with what's
called massive depressive disorder in her teenage years, and at
(02:37):
some point, unbeknownst to us, she started self medicating. And
while she was home for Christmas break in twenty nineteen,
two days before Christmas. In fact, five years ago, today
was the last day my wife and I saw her alive.
She was a drug dealer in search of the prescription
(02:57):
painkiller percoset. Day drug dealer ended up selling her counterfeit pills.
She took half of one of these pills before going
to bed, because the other half was found on her dresser,
and it killed her very quickly, because these pills were
simply packed with lethal dose. As a sentinel.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So sorry, I'm so sorry to hear that. I can
feel your heartache. My heart aches for you. Of course,
our condolences for your daughter, for your loss to you
and your wife. You know you are a champion though,
and you've turned this pain into purpose. And Alexander's Law
went into effect Wednesday, this past Wednesday. What was news
(03:35):
to me, and I'm in the news business, Matt, is
that this was this flew under the radar, really because
it was part of Prop thirty six, and that's the
reform of Prop. Forty seven that you know increases penalties
for drug crimes, et cetera. So we know that Prop
thirty six, it was passed by almost seventy percent overwhelmingly
(03:59):
in the state of Caia, California, and in that is
Alexandra's Law. And so tell us what Alexandra's Law does
in terms of holding drug dealers accountable, because it's not
just for fentanyl.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Sure, it could be various hard drugs. But I want
to make one more point in regards to my daughter.
I like to emphasize this. My daughter did make a
poor choice to purchase what she believed was a prescription
drug illegally. There's no doubt it was a poor choice,
but it was not an evil choice. The evil choice
was made by the man who knew he was selling
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counterfeit pills and profited off of her life, not giving
a damn about her one bit. And I was surprised
at this time that we did not have a law
in California to hold people like drug dealers like this accountable.
So what Alexandra's Law does? It really refrains drug related
deaths from being viewed as accidental overdoses to actually being
(04:55):
prosecutable homicides. Alexandra's Law is an admonishment given in court
to someone convicted of a drug offense. It makes you
aware that drugs are dangerous and deadly to human life,
and if you provide drugs that result in a death,
you can be charged with murder. The admonishment is documented
in court records and also given to the defendant and writing,
(05:17):
and the goal is really to deter a drug dealer
from becoming a death dealer. We want them to stop.
But if this warning is ignored, it can serve as
evidence of what is known as implied malice, which can
be used to charge murder. Under an implied malice murder
prosecutors don't need to prove someone intended to kill. They
simply need to prove someone, in this case, a drug
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dealer was aware of their actions, and despite knowing the
dangers of their actions, they did it anyways. And let
me make one more point. Anyone who lost someone at
the hands of a drug dealer that had a prior
drug related arrest might be alive today if our legislature
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had passed this over four years ago when we first
introduced it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, because as mentioned, you've been on this path to
get this passed for five years and it has failed
in the California legislature not once, not twice, I think
even more than three times, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it was introduced three times, but heard between our
Senate Public Safety Committee and Assembly Public Safety committees. It
was heard a total of seven times. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Alexander's dealer and correct me if I'm wrong, was indicted
on federal charges of distributing fentanyl resulting and death.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. Fortunately, our federal laws are a bit better than
our state laws. And two years for death. He was
arrested on the charges of distribution of sentinel resulting in death.
And I would want to make another point. These people
don't stop. He knew alex was dead within two weeks
after her dying, and within a couple of weeks of
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that knowledge, he was reaching out to his supplier to
purchase more of these death pills. So we have to
have a means of locking these people up. You know,
there's arguments those who oppose essay that locking up these
street level dealers doesn't do any good. I beg to differ.
I don't know how many lives this man is responsible for,
(07:20):
but if he was not locked up right now, I
can guarantee you there would be more lives lost in
his hands. And that's how it is with these street
level dealers these days.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I'll ask this most respectfully, and this is going to
be my last question because we are at a time.
But has this has your fight and the conclusion of it,
the fact that Alexander's law is now on the books.
Has this given you and your wife some sort of
closure that you didn't feel prior.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, anybody who's lost a child knows there's never closure.
We learned to keep moving forward. But you know, this
is a gift for the holidays. There's no doubt that
we're pleased at this past and it gives us some
solace during this time of year. But there's still work
(08:09):
to be done. Just because this law has passed, we're
going to still need law enforcement to their job to
do their job, and that is to arrest and for
prosecutors to prosecute these drug related crimes so people do
get this admonishment. We need to get as many people
as many people involved in the drug trade as admonished
(08:30):
as possible so it can actually do what it's supposed
to do and save lives.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I know you also have a nonprofit. Why don't you
give that website so people can learn more about you.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Thank you. Anybody can learn more about what we do
at Stop Drug Homicide dot org.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Stop drug homicides, homicides or homicide.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, homicide not plural side drug homicide.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Stop drug Homicide dot org to learn more about Matt
Cappaludo Alexander's Law. We thank you so much for taking
the time out. I hope that you and your wife
can have a happy holiday season despite the backdrop of
all this. But congratulations again on Alexander's Law.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Hello everybody on this Sunday afternoon, three days before Christmas
and Hanukkah. On this Wednesday, it's been almost twenty years
since the two have landed on the same day. So
there's a little trivia. If you didn't know that already,
I'm Marlataeus. You might know me from Fox eleven and
then also from film in here every once in a while,
typically on the Gary and Channon Show nine to one.
(09:40):
Of course, you know that Monday through Friday, the incomparable
Gary and Shannon. Good to be here on this Sunday afternoon.
I have neglected the talk back. I was pretty good
off the top of the hour in the two o'clock hour,
but I want to remind you we do want to
hear from you. So if you have a comment about
the show, good or bad, bring it on. I have
fixed skin I want to hear. Just look for the
(10:01):
microphone icon in the iHeartRadio app and you can click
that and you send me your thoughts. I think it's
what Kayla. I think it's a max of fifteen seconds,
thirty seconds, thirty seconds, okay, so you can voice your
frustrations or your pleasure with the show in thirty seconds.
So earlier this week we were just talking about Alexander's
(10:24):
Law went into effect on Wednesday, but earlier this week
we had on the Fox elevenues at six o'clock, I
had a local assemblyman out of Riverside County, Bill A. Saley, Republican.
He joined me in studio to talk about a new
bill that he reintroduced to the California legislature this last
(10:45):
couple of weeks, right after the Oroville school shooting. You
may recall that happened in the beginning of December up
in northern California at a Christian school. A gunman went
on there, opened fire, left to kinder gardeners in critical condition.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And Bill A.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Saley based out of Riverside County, he out of Corona specifically,
he reintroduced legislation that he tried to get passed before,
and that is to require armed police officers, armed officers,
armed guards at every California school campus.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Moving forward.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And he when I say he reintroduced this, he had
tried to do this almost two years ago. But we
know that there's a Democratic supermajority in Sacramento, so it
did not pass well. He is now on a mission
to get this passed to increase what he says, school security,
school safety for students again, to have an armed officer
(11:48):
on every California school campus.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Here's a clip when he was with me earlier this week.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
This would make it a state wide issue, and it
would be state law that there will be a school
resource officer, especially trained armed officer, on every school campus.
I'm talking elementary through high school, and the state would
pay for it because it's an important issue.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Is there evidence that having a school police officer, a
school resource officer actually makes the difference, Because, of course
we can all point to what happened at rob Elementary
and Uvalde, Texas. That district said they had threat assessment teams,
perimeter fencering around the school, yet nineteen.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Children were killed, two teachers.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Is there evidence, well, what happened, you've all doe was
a failure. And I think when we have police officers
that actually do their job, and I think most of
them do a great job. By the way, we know
that seconds matter, and I've been in law enforcement. I
can tell you the only thing you could do when
there's a mad person with a gun is you need
a police officer there who can put them down quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
There are private schools, there are cath of schools, for instance,
that already have armed officers. Have you visited those schools
to talk about how this works, how it has potentially
prevented something terrible from happening.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
I can just tell you based of my experience working
with police departments, working with school resource officers, not only
for school shootings, but also all kinds of other incidences
at school, whether it's assault cases or there's some social
issues going on with the kids. The police officer are
a great resource and I think we should be welcoming
them on campus. They provide an additional level of safety
and security. And frankly, why should the politicians in Sacramento
(13:17):
have more security than our kids in school?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Democratic majority?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Of course in Sacramento, you had a bill last year
that basically that was essentially this and it died, didn't
get out a committee.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And that was almost two years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What's different now, what's changed is still Democratic majority.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Well, I'm hoping that these shootings make a difference. I mean,
what is their solution? And we've had multiple school shootings
now just in.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The last two weeks.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Kids are literally being gunned down at school by gunmen,
So what is their solution? Only thing the Democrats offer
are more gun laws, and I would submit that we've
already passed almost every gun law that's possible in the
state of California. We have the Second Amendment. You're not
going to take guns away. Let's give our kids a
chance and let's protect them. Like I said, give them
the same protection that I have in Sacramento. If cops
(14:00):
don't work, then let's take the cops away from the politicians.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah. That his last sentence there, if the cops don't work,
then take them away from the politicians in Sacramento, noting
that ourslat legislators in California they get security, and his
point is the kids need security too. I want to
get your thoughts on this, Kayla, what do you think
about this idea.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I think that it's a good idea.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
I think that there hasn't been enough solutions that the
school shooting number is going down, so I think that
it could only help the situation, because the situation seems
to be getting worse and worse year after year. I
just really hope that they vet the officers that they
put into these situations and hope that they are from
the communities of the schools that they are protecting, because
sometimes some communities don't feel safe even with officers. So
(14:48):
we've got to make sure the officers are from the
communities that they're protecting, so they understand the children and
the children can feel safe with them and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, you know, I was heard from some parents and said,
it's bad enough that my child already has to do
lockdown drill.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You know, these little.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Idy bed things that are going to school and they
have to know what a lockdown drill is and what
to do in the event of a school shooter. But
that is the reality, and that is as Sally's point
these days, and those same parents says, heartbreaking newt as
it is to send their kids to school to have
to do a lockdown. Man evem reach out to me
and said, but this is what we need to do,
so they are on the side of a saie. But again,
(15:23):
you know, he didn't necessarily have a great answer when
I asked, what's changed in terms of the votes, because
that's what it's going to take. And his one answer was, sure,
it's still a democratic super majority in Sacramento, but it's
up to the people. When the people rally and say
we want this, and the politicians need to listen to
the constituents, then that's when he says action would be taken.
(15:46):
So it's on the onus, he says, at this point
of the constituents up and down the state of California.
So we will continue to watch that and see what
comes of that. It's going to be a fight, but
a sale is hard pressed and he will. He's committed
to seeing this through, so we'll see what happens with that. Again,
(16:06):
let me just make sure that I got that correct
when I say it is Assembly bill. If you want
to do your own homework, Assembly Bill sixty eight against
just reintroduced by Republican assembly member out of Riverside County,
Bill Assali.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All right, still to come.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'm very much looking forward to this conversation because I
just finished her podcast and it is gripping, and I
hope I think you'll find it interesting too. Marcia Clark,
of course, the famed attorney, lead prosecutor in the OJ
Simpson trial. She's out with a new book, a new podcast.
She's going to be joining the program coming up next.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Thanks so much for chiming in on the talk back.
We've got quite a few talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
We appreciate that we're going to play those coming up,
not this segment, but the next one, so stay tuned
for that and keep them coming. If you want to
tell us how you feel about the show, just look
for the microphone icon on the iHeart Radio app and
we will get to yours even if it's bad, good
or bad.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Like I've been saying, we have fixed skin around here.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, a woman who does have fixed skin is someone
I admire and had the pleasure of interviewing on Fox
eleven News at six o'clock. Recently, she's got a new
book out. You may not know her as an author,
but she is a New York Times bestselling author, so
now you are aware. It's Marcia Clark, of course, lead
(17:26):
prosecutor in the OJ Simpson trial, famed attorney as mentioned,
New York Times bestselling author, She's a TV producer, and
she has a podcast. I listened to that podcast. It
is fascinating stuff. So I'm so excited to have Marcia
joining the program. Good to have you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Thanks for shlving me.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So I talked to you not long ago. We were
talking about your book. I want to start with a
book because I made the tie in KFI is located
here in Burbank. You have a brand new book out
just released. It's called Trial by Ambush, and this is
about a murder that happened in Burbank in the nineteen fifties.
(18:06):
It was really known as the trial of the Century
before you, in turn, got the Trial of the Century
in the nineteen nineties. You said that you stumbled upon
this and you were just hooked and you had to
write about it.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Why it was.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
A fascinating case, And you're right. It happened in Burbank.
It's a quiet residential neighborhood, as you know, and these
kind of things just didn't happen there. It was a
home Ephasian Robert burglary of an elderly woman, Nabel Monahan.
She was found bludgeoned to death and strangled to death
in her home. It turned out to be a group
(18:40):
of four who broke into her home in the belief
that there would be a safe filled with money, which
turned out to be completely false. And in the center
of this trial was Barbara Graham, peat woman very beautiful,
I don't have any violent crime in her background, and
it just didn't fit a woman like that. Sitting in
(19:00):
the middle of those thugs in the courtroom, and she
wound up becoming the centerpiece of the whole trial because
the press went nuts with her.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And come to find out, when you stumbled upout this case,
you realized you thought that somebody had done this already,
that there's got to be a lot of books about
this case because it was that fascinating, and you found
out there wasn't.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, it was a shock, I have to say. I
didn't expect that at all. I thought, well, we should
tell everybody. In nineteen fifty three, when this crime happened,
it was its own trial of the century, and so
it was covered very heavily by the press. And so
there were a lot of newspapers back then and they
covered morning, noon, and night. They were all over the place,
and it got national attention as well. And then after
(19:43):
she was put to death, there was a film made
about it called I Want to Live. You can still
see it, I'm sure you look up, you know, on
the streaming, and Susan Hayward played Barbara Graham and won
an Oscar for it Best Actress. So it was a
very famous case and I thought there'd be a lot
written about it all books, and it turned out there
really wasn't. So it was wide open and certainly no
(20:05):
one had written about the trial. And I thought the
answer to how Barbara, who seems so unlikely, wound up
as the centerpiece of that trial when she very unlikely
that she was really involved in the murder itself, had
to be in what happened during that trial. And sure
enough it did. But you know, getting those transcripts, that
was a whole journey in itself.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
I'm sure it was okay.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So again, the book is called Trial by Ambush, about
a murder that happened in Burbank in nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Marcia Clark writes about it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Please check out that book and please check out her
new podcast too.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
This is on Wondery Plus.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Download the app Wondery Plus and you can listen to
Informants Lawyer X Marcia.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I listened to this.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
It's a nine part series and this is about a
case that rocked Australia, a legal case that rocked Australia.
The center of it is a defense attorney turned police informant,
Nikola Gobo and she is currently in hiding. And you
tell the story. Why did you want to write about
(21:12):
this story.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
It was just such a wild story. Now, this one's current.
This is all happening in the two thousands. She was
one of the most high profile criminal defense attorneys in
Australia and particularly in Melbourne, which is a very lovely city.
But there was the gangland wars that were happening around
that time in the early aughts and late nineties where
(21:35):
mes and fennamon and ecstasy were flooding the markets, and
they were the drug trade had exploded, with gangland wars
over the turf being fought by all these drug lords
and these kingpins who were making millions out of it.
She was representing the worst of the worst, the most
notorious of them, and she eventually turned police informant and
(21:57):
while she was still representing her clients and passing information
back and forth between the clients and the police. It
was one of the most incredible stories I've ever seen.
I've never heard of a thing like this before. It
wound up when the case broke, they wound up holding
a Royal Commission hearing that went on for some period
of time where police and Nicolagabo, everybody was hauled before
(22:20):
the court to talk about their role in it. Fascinating,
fascinating story that was just It's like something if I
wrote this in a script.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
It would be unbelievable. It would really be unbelievable. I mean,
this character and again real life in hiding. Right now,
I'm not going to give it away because I can't
believe how this ended. I mean, you had me on
pins and needles at the end in episode nine and
I'm still shocked of the outcome of this one. So again,
this is called informants lawyer X on wondery plus check
(22:50):
that out.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
While I have you.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Of course, you know your name became a household name
in the nineteen nineties as a lead prosecutor in the O. J.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Simpson trial.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I asked you the other night sort of you know,
do you look at that case as a blessing or
a curse? And it sort of hindsights twenty twenty sort
of a thing. But one thing you did say is
it essentially changed your life trajectory.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Can you elaborate on that? How did that trial change
your life?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I had God joined the Day's office thinking that that
was going to be where I ended everything. I was
going to be there forever and I expected them to
carry me out of the courtroom in a pine box.
So I did not expect to be doing anything other
than prosecuting cases for the rest of my career, you know,
And so they since in trial, changed all that and
(23:40):
kind of threw me out into the world and you know,
doing a lot of different things, producing for television and
writing scripts and writing books on making doing podcasts, just
a whole lot of different things. It was certainly a
nothing I could anticipate. But you know what they say,
man plans and God laughs.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yes, yeah, and that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
H Well, no shortage of material for you, because there
is an obsession. And it's not just an American obsession.
It's a global obsession with true crime. Why why are
we so fascinated with true crime?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
You know, it's a good question. I'm fascinated by true crime.
That's why I became a criminal lawyer. I can only
speak for myself, although I think probably togethers will feel
the same. It's an ultimate mystery, especially when it comes
to murder, which is, you know, the the ultimate app
in terms of crime, and the stakes are so high
and you know, there's life and death and you have
(24:37):
a victim, who will who has lost their lives? And
the reason, the reasons why they do this. It's not
just who done it, but increasingly in this day and age,
it's why, Why does somebody what pushes someone to commit
an app like that? How do you wind up in
that situation? It's it's endlessly intriguing and mystifying, and I
(24:58):
think that we are constantly trying, I think, to solve
that puzzle.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, our appetite for true crime is very strong. I
don't think that's going anywhere either. So you have a
lot of work ahead of you, no doubt, and I'll
be looking for your latest work. So again, Marcia Clark
on the line with us. She has a new book
out it's called Trial by Ambush about a real life
murder that happened in Burbank, and then a podcast out
which is completely fascinating on Wondery Plus Informants Lawyer X.
(25:24):
There it is Marcia Clark. Thanks so much for taking
the time out. Happy holidays to you and your family.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
And to you as well. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It was my pleasure, our pleasure today. Okay, still to come.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
We're going to have a little bit of fun We're
going to lighten things up when Kayla, and Andrew and
Bella and maybe even my husband he happens to be
here in studio today, we're going to weigh in on
why millennials and gen Z are calling out baby boomers
for these what they consider bad habits. We'll have a
little bit of fun and we'll also play your talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm Marla Tayas. I'm having way too much fun in here.
I can't believe it's already been almost two hours since
we've been on. Thanks so much to all the listeners
who've taken the time out in the last two hours. Well,
I've been on thanks to Kayla, thanks to Andrew, thanks
to Bella. You've made it so easy.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And we want to get to the talk back.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I understand we have a couple to get too, and
I know one is wonderful for Kayla.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Hey, Marla, I'm down here in San Diego and I
listened to KFI all the time. I just want to
say you're a very refreshing voice, and I'm glad to
glad to listen to you and really get educated on
a lot of issues. Thank you for all you're doing,
and hope you and your family have a merried Christmas.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Okay, that was wonderful for me because you are refreshing
and I did learn a lot in these two hours.
It was amazing working with you. So that was actually
amazing for me.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Okay, but I have to just tell you right when
the voice came on, I know you played it earlier,
but I couldn't get a clear voice.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That is my father in law. Is it really? You
just told me that all yeah, yeah, feel.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I don't know when you played it originally. Okay, I
call him Baz Baz. That's very sweet. Okay, so let's
get that's too funny. Let's get to Kayla's.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Damn Kayla a great point. I'm all about cops and schools,
you know.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
Keep them safe.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But you had a really good point about them being
from the community.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's very good point.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
Awesome, thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
That was a good point. So it's a great I
agree with me one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I agree with you a thousand percent because that gets
to the point of community policing, and we talk about
that how important it is for police officers to get
to know the community because then it just takes away
the stigma.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Of bad cop. Absolutely, and so that's why it's so important.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And if you're you know, just joining in, this is
about the idea of putting there's a new legislation, new
bill that came out that wants to put armed guard cauards,
armed officers on every California school campus. So, Kaylee, great point.
I love having your perspective and I want your perspective
on this too. All right, everybody chime in, and that
includes you know, it's a family affair. Come on, this
(28:13):
is my first time. It's a Sunday. My husband is
here in studio with me because he could be because
it's a Sunday and he loves KFI.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
He's a true fan. So this is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Why Millennials I saw this on a site called Retirely
Why Millennials and gen z are calling out these fourteen
that's a lot fourteen bad baby boomer habits.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
We don't need to get to all fourteen.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I've highlighted five that I think we could all probably
relate to. Number one, you won't stop complaining about quote
kids these days, I complain about kids these days.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Okay, so as a millennial, I do that with all
those gen alphas and even the gen z ers like Bella, I.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Can't even I understand the kids these days.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Gen Z is the worst, Like Bella, Ohio toilet, that's
not a thing.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
It's not You're like so beta, Like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Kids? Yeah? I have a fourteen year old sister and
she's technically gen Z, but I don't understand half the
things she says despite being older gen Z.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
So I'm right with you, guys, I feel so old.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
And I'm looking at my husband across at the table
here with the microphone in front of him. We are
gen X. So I'm not I'm transparent. I'm forty eight,
he's fifty one. But I'm the same way kids these days.
I feel like a senior as well. I feel like
I'm a baby boomer because I say it just as well.
Speaker 12 (29:43):
Yeah you do, but I actually probably say it more
than you do, and always think that I'm too old.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
That's right, these kids these days, we're all turning into
our parents. That's that's the reality. Okay, what about this again?
These are bad habits, bad baby boomer habits. According to
millennials and and Gen z ers. You're weirdly proud of
not knowing how technology works.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
I don't know because I do think like every time
new tech comes out, I have to teach it to myself.
And I can't even imagine not growing up with it
in your life, like it makes it like ten times hrd.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Okay, I apologize all the boomers out there, like my mom,
but I grew up with America online, with the modem
right Oh yeah, yeah, in the in the mid nineties
where your parents said, well, you gotta be careful. You
don't know who you're talking to they're on the internet.
This is the same generation that just posts memes like
they're going out of style on Facebook and thinks it's gospel.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yes, that's true, Kayla.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
I want to understand the technology. I'm not proud of
not understanding things. I want to be cool. I want
to be hip or I don't want to be replaced by AI.
I want to know everything that they know. Yeah, so yeah,
I know.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
This is the epitome of my own mother, though she
you know, I don't Mom, I sent you the email.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Did you get it?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I don't look at my email.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What's the real thing is she doesn't know how to
look at her email. But then when it comes down
to it, she'll she'll say, can John show me my
husband John?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Can John show me your parents? My in laws? They
are very tech saut, they are very textic, so they're good.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
But but Marvel will attest to this is I love technology,
but when it doesn't work, I can't stand it. So
if I want AirPod charges and only I want, that's
the worst.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, look out now you mentioned the memes Andrew you
write this is one of the quote bad baby boomer habits.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
You write Facebook comments like their letters.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Yet yes, yes you get the notification from your Auntcy
and you're like, I don't like reading this book right now?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Can you not?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
And then the other one is you love forwarding chain emails.
Remember the day.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
If you don't for allow this to ten people, you know,
bad things will happen to you.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
My generation did that too, but on snapchat like of text,
but it would be like like holiday specific, like it
would happen around the holidays.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Lastly, here you you judge them for not owning a home.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I think there's a lot of that that goes boomers
not owning homes. No, the boomers judged us.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Yes, because of their mistakes that we can't hold.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I just want to put it out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
So the boomers blame us for the economy they created,
that they created.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, let's that's screwed.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
There's just it's just I know it's all relative, but
nonetheless it's there's such a whopping difference between now and then.
It says, you know you, they bought their first time
at forty thousand. That's not remotely possible today.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I wish I could buy a home at forty thousand.
I wish I could buy a car at forty.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Thousand, right right, I think I'll ever own a home.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
No, I don't say that.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Shouldn't one day, one day say sure, yeah, we've got
to save some money.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I think Chris marrill's a boomer. We could blame him
for all of them. Oh, no, he's a boomer.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Oh, I think we're in the same boat, Chris.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm a gen xer. I'm a gen xer. Chris.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
No, this is what I have to deal with every week.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
The Hey, Chris, gang up on me. Go ahead, Chris.
Kids these days, the kids these.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Days right, absolute worst. I don't know about you.
Speaker 11 (33:21):
But the older I get, the more scroogye I get.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Too, Yeah, more curmudgeon.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Get into the holidays. And maybe you're one of these
people that gets into the holidays where I just hear
Christmas music and I go, I hit that Christmas.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
You're the Grinch, I am, Oh, come on no.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
And the older I get, the more grinchy I am.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
And my brother keeps breeding and I have to keep
buying crap for his kids for mine.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Well, I'm expecting to Chris. You got Uncle Chris for me?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Zero, zero, nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Well, what can the people expect for you coming up
when you take over to you just complete Grinch style?
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Three hours of me telling you why Christmas sucks and
Kayla and Andrew ganging up on me to tell me
why I need to go to bed early and stop
working in my slippers.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, and don't forget to take your meds while you're
at home.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
You know what I can't stand is that we run
into these millennials and these gen zers and they get
mad at me for double spacing at the end of
my sentences.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But you know what that.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Was drilled into our heads and we failed typing class
if we didn't double space.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And you got to go to the home. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
I know.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
The good comeback is, do you know how to do
right cursive?
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I do?
Speaker 11 (34:33):
And it's a waste of time. Yeah yeah, No, I
just hate everything. I'm the biggest missingthrope you will ever meet.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I just hate it all. Why are we teaching algebra?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
We don't use it.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Why are we teaching cursive?
Speaker 11 (34:45):
Nobody uses it?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well I like cursive. I think it's a lost art.
You probably have that nice hand right That means you don't.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It's like a doctor wishes.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, all right, doctor Chris Merrill.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
He is coming up next.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Hey can It was really an honor talk with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Nice to talk to.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
You too, Kayla, Andrew Bella, thanks so much for having
me into all the listeners. Thank you and my father
in law. I cannot believe he called in on the
talkback and I didn't catch that.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Oh my god. I love it.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
And guess what, I'll be here next Sunday as well,
two to four next Sunday, so I look forward to
that again.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Have a great week, Happy holidays. I'll talk to you
next Sunday. I'm Marlo TEUs. This is KFI AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 1 (35:27):
App, kf I AM six forty on demand
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