June 17, 2025 • 18 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae, host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on’ why former NBA player Iman Shumpert thinks the world is flat, the meaning behind LA Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw’s “Pride Hat” and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Been joining me in the studio is Jackie Ray. Jackie
is great to see you. We missed you last week. Yes,
Now we have to talk about some athletes, and you
and I are usually in agreement. Athletes should have a
space to be able to talk about things other than
sports or their sport. Absolutely, you know, professional athletes are people,
(00:28):
and people have politics and beliefs.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
But but here's the caveat some.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Of these guys, it's just idiots, just straight up idiots.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I got two idiots for you, Jackie Ray, and I
want to see what you could gather from their idiocy. First,
is Miami heat guard Tyler Hero. Okay, and he can ball, yeah,
get me wrong, but he doesn't believe any history before
the year nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Listen to this real thing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah I think so, yeah, I don't think he's I
don't think he's behind history.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, you said you don't believe he hap like Twitterland, No,
I don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't believe anything that happened before nineteen fifty. Wait wait, no,
thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, So wait, you don't believe something that happened, like like,
how do we know when did he when did he
come to the land or whatever?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Churchill, they said.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There's no way really knowing if it was him could be.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Involved, right, okay, the forest Columbus as if history did
not exist in any form before YouTube or YEV or videotape.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I mean like World War II happened before nineteen fifty?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
How did Okay, here's that was a lot like I'm stuttering,
just just trying to regurgitate. So when you look at
this political landscape, if you don't know how we got here,
what do.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
You think happening right now? This is a lung. Let's
say he's a voter, a voter he votes for. But
let's say he is a voter, his vote means as
much as mine in theory.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Right, But this is the problem then, because what is
he voting based upon?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He has no framework, his dumbosity. How did you?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Let's unpack this because if you don't believe in history,
when was the.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
NBA created pre nineteen fifty? So you playing point? You
playing in a game you don't believe in.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Stop trying to make sense. Let's get to the other idiot,
because we'll be here all night. Amon Shumpert. He is
a retired NBA player. He played with Cleveland. I don't
know where else he played. He played with Lakers for
a hot second. Those who may be in just popular culture.
He was married to rapper and actress Tianna Taylor for
some time. Fumbled it fumbled that bag, as they say,
(02:54):
he is of the opinion, like an increasing number of
NBA players, is of the opinion that the Earth is
not spherical, or in his terminology, it's not round, And
there's nothing you can do to convince him, prove to
him otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
This is a mon shumper in all of his ignorants.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
World being flat.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Bro, you have no proof that it's okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
What be crazy. How you're gonna prove to me is round?
Speaker 7 (03:23):
And how have you ever like flown? Yeah, the whole time,
really never ever ever, you know it, don't look.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I never saw one of them little windows and saw
enough earth to see a curve.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
You didn't do that. Look, but you can't see the
end of it, like I'm saying, if you like, go
to the go to the beach and look at the ocean.
It stops at one point because the curve you can't
keep going.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Like if it was flat, you could keep seeing.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
You could pull out a telescope and see farther and farther.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You want to know, it's crazy.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
I could paint you a picture right now and draw
a straight line and you could say it looked like
a curve picture exactly look like from where?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Why Tiana Taylor somewhere going? Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
How did that guy impress her?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I don't know, because I would have been done as
soon as he put an F on the end of Earth.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We are done.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
For the science people out there, the curvature of the
Earth is about eight inches per mile. Okay, if you
can get up high enough or have enough distance and
get perspective, you'll see the curvature of the earth. Why
Imon Schumper thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the world,
even though he.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Doesn't believe figured this out hundreds of years ago? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I feel like most of us when we were kids
in school, we made these sun dials and we could
see you know how so so did he fail that
or did he what happened? I need a history lesson
that Tyler hero doesn't believe exists.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I short of just putting all these dumb the fathers
on a rocket and take and shooting them off towards
the moon so they can Jeff Bezos Elon Musk helped
me out here where they can actually see it for themselves.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
They will wallow, okay, But the thing is, though you
don't have to see it for yourself. Then NASA literally
has a camera that's in space.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They don't believe.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They don't believe anything that that's happening on the International
Space Station, the pictures which are being back to us.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
They don't believe any of that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So short of them actually being in a rocket and
then they dip their head out the window and decompress
and explode because they think this probably just images being
pasted on the side of.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The right of the capsule. They're not going to believe.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's insane. So what's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is
that what that they believe in the Truman Show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Maybe maybe all of this is just a big lie,
But but that is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Part and parcel.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Here's the serious point of our nation today, because we
believe that everything is some sort of plot to deceive
us and control us, and everything which is told to
us is actually a lie, and we can't believe reality.
We can't believe history, we can't believe whatever we see
in the news today because fake news, fake news.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Listen, I write, it's not real. What you're seeing is
not real. Okay, I invented that. But I know where
we are and it's and it's interesting though. It is
because I have I have people that you know, not
that I'm related to or I know personally, but that
I've been in acquaintance with, who i would consider really
intelligent and insightful but very religious at the same time.
(06:40):
And I've sat down with them and I've had conversation
and randomly I like museums, and so anytime there's a
new dinosaur thing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I love dinosaurs. Where this is going, yeah, you know
where this is going.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They don't believe that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are not
in the.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Bible, right, And according to the Bible, the Earth is
only so many thousands of.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Years ago, right, and so that way when people are saying,
you know, millions, so for them, nothing predates the Bible,
and so therefore dinosaurs don't exist. And then the bones
that are in the museum are absolutely fake and fabricated
to what end though, and that's always my question, what
how are you deceiving the people except for to say,
(07:19):
at some point we want somebody to make too many
series of Jurassic Park. Aside from that, what would be
the purpose of the lie?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The same with what would be the purpose of deceiving
all civilizations, not just in the United States, but all
civilization to convince them that the world is flat even
though scientifically.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
There's so many holes in that, so many, so many,
I mean, you know, and what's the upside of it?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And when is someone going to find the edge of the.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Disc because listen, I used to tell now this person
was a friend, but no longer, not now, But I
used to tell him. I was like, listen, I know
for a fact the Earth is not flat, because if
it was, do you know how many people I were
to kick off the side of it?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, I could make a really joke about certain news
going on today. Listen, there'll be a way in which
people would be removed from this country.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
There was an edge. Not going to call it the earth.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, Earth might be flat, but Earth is not.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Vague news. Jamie Fox,
That was.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Jammy Fox Fox when we come back, we got some
more athletes to talk about and what they've done, what
they said. Antonio Brown, he's in the news for two things.
One he's in the news for attempted.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Murder charges again.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And he said that he slept with Governor Newsom's wife.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Same story.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And also Clayton Kershaw what he had on his hat
on Pride Night. He had a Bible verse on Pride Night.
And people are trying to talk about the Bible and
Christian beliefs. People are trying to read into the message
he was trying to share. We're gonna talk about that
when we come back. KFI AM six forty Going Beyond
the box Score with Jackie Ray. We're live everywhere on
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(09:00):
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we talked about the dumbness Tyler Herro, the dumbness of
(09:36):
the Mond shemperd NBA. Now this we need to talk about.
I will say the views in Major League Baseball and football,
if you will, this is kind of politics for both
of them. Let's start with Clinton Kershaw, Dodger's great first
ballot Hall of Famer. He's an outspoke When I say
(09:56):
outspoken Christian, he's not in a political sense. He you
just know that's a part of his life and he
will let you know that when opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
During Pride Night on Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
On his hat his cap, there was a little inscription
which said Genesis nine twelve sixteen, and if you're not
familiar with that passage, this is on Pride Night for
context quote and God said, this is the sign of
the covenant that I make between me and you and
every living creature that is with you for all future generations.
(10:30):
I have set my bow in the cloud and it
shall be a sign of the covenant between me and
the earth. Talking about ratios, there has been some conjecture
about whether Clayton Kershaw was saying, no, this is the
true meaning of rainbow. It's not the Pride symbol. I know,
you've seen the story. How did it look to you?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It looked like exactly that.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
It looked like he was saying, you know, you guys
kind of hijacked this symbol that has meant this one
thing for generations, because it didn't used to mean that
when I was a kid. I distinctly remember I was
raised in the church, though, and I remember one time
we moved to Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm from Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
That's kind of like our West Hollywood is in Capitol Hill,
and I remember I drove down the street with my
mom and I was like, there's so many Christians in
this neighborhoods everywhere.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's such a good neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
My mom was like, Okay, you know, I was too
young for her to really break down to me what
that meant. So I you know, and this might not
be a popular opinion, I'm not mad at him for this.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I feel like this is his belief system. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The backlash would have been swift and severe if he
hadn't participated, or if he didn't partake in any way,
or maybe whatever. That's always a thing when people decide
to opt out because they don't want to take part
in Pride Night.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We've seen athletes do that before.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He is a Christian man, and so there's a lot
of Christians that believe, you know, homosexuality is not a sin.
There's a lot of Christians I believe homosexuality is a sin.
Wherever he falls on that spectrum, that is his belief.
And as long as he's not harming anyone or bringing
any physical harm to anyone or berating anyone verbally, if
(12:13):
he wants to remind everybody what the rainbow originally meant,
I'm actually fine with it.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm fine with it in this way.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And this has nothing to do with Clayton Clearshaw specifically,
but it has to do with athletes generally.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Athletes will put slogans.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And things, Bible verses on their shoes or cleats and
what have you.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's not new.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Different leagues respond differently, And if you are comfortable with
putting who you are, whatever that means on your cleats,
on your hat, and you're welcome with whatever response the
league like. For example, if you do this in the NFL,
if you make any type of variation in your uniform,
you get fined instantly. Doesn't matter what you do. If
you wear one sock too high the other sock too low,
(12:56):
you get fine.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Depending on who you are, though not every athlete gets
fine in the same way.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But that's story fun another day.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Another thing.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But my point is if you want to make some
sort of statement and everyone knows that the camera's going
to be on Clayton Krishaw, so he knew that people
would see it, it would be enlarged and people would
speculate if you're okay with whatever the response will be,
be it fine.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Questions in the media, then I'm fine with it.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Right I When I saw this, my initial thought was like, uh, oh,
you know, people are going to get upset. But at
the same time, I feel the point that some people
will miss is everyone has a right to live their
life the way that they see fit that's best for them,
as long as it's not causing harm to other people.
So why you might while you might see this and
be offended by it. That is a problem between you
(13:43):
and whoever you pray to. This is his feeling, his
belief system, and he is showing that in a very
non evasive, non confrontational way, and he has every right
to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Let's stay with the Dodgers real quick.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And I didn't give you the story, but you may
know about the TikTok singer Natalie who sang the national anthem,
didn't chase the words, but saying it in Spanish against
the wishes of the Dodgers, who said explicitly don't do that.
They went carnation on this, said don't do that. You
did it anyway? And was I offended?
Speaker 8 (14:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Was I think? Did I think it was the right
thing to do?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
It goes back to Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now, if you believe in your heart that you need
to do it, going back to protests, however that is,
and you are willing to deal with whatever consequences in
this case, she'll probably probably be never asked back by
the Dodgers, then okay, follow your convictions.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It didn't hurt anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And if you know the history of it, it's not
the first time it's been done. You know, You're just
it's just in another language. You're not changing the words
to make a formal protest. You're not trying to say
the land of the Free for immigrants in the home
of the Brave and immigrants too. You didn't make any changes,
you just say it in a different language.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, it's definitely a form of protest.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And I think, you know, given this climate, especially what's
happening to the Latino community in our country, that's why
she did it like that. I would bet my last
dollar that if what we're seeing with ice and things
of that nature weren't happening, she wouldn't have even considered
singing it in Spanish. So it was definitely a form
of protest. And look, that's the time that we're in.
People are the way that people protest. Not everybody's going
(15:20):
to go out into the street and risk getting a
rubber bullet in the thigh. You know, right, Mark, you
got a rubber bullet in the thigh all over the place.
Good gobally, So not everybody wants to be Mark Ronner.
Safety first, Safety first, because I know that left a
welt or two, Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I Actually I don't bruise and those gave me massive bruises.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, so see they're terrible. Not recommended.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Next time, just sing a song in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
No, well he can't sing. No, no, great plan, that's
my plan.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, he said, I had to be on key.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
He wouldn't be the first person that sung that national
anthem off key.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Very quickly before we go, Antonio Brown, I want to
call him a former NFL player At this point, I
don't think anyone's going to sign him. I don't know
if he's trolling, but he was a prominent Trump supporter.
I don't know if he's trolling because I don't think
he's not. That's what I'm saying. I don't think I
can't think him seriously with bost things that he say.
But now he's wanted for attempted murder. A warrant has
been issued for the rest of Antonio Brown with the
(16:20):
shooting that took place in Miami last month.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But that's not that's not even the main.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Part of the story because in the story, as he
was proclaiming his innocence, at the same time, he also said,
and I'm trying to keep it as you know, peg
as possible said that. Well, he said, quote, I had
sex with your wife, Gavin as in Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I don't know. Stop laughing more. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I don't there's no evidence that's been presented that there's
actually connection between them. I do believe that there's something
emotionally wrong with until Brown.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
He took that big hit.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Anybody who's been following football, there was that moment in
time when he was in Pittsburgh. He came over the
middle and he got And ever since then, I've been
saying this that he did not. You know, the NFL
is horrible in my opinion when it comes to concussion protocol,
especially given what they know about CTE, which can't be
diagnosed until after you pass away. But the amount of
time that they leave people in concussion protocol doesn't make
(17:24):
sense to me. It's not really when we know for
sure you're healed, it's when we need your back kind
of thing. And so he's been out here playing with
some mental stress so much so that we know Tom
Brady moved him into his house, which I wouldn't have
done that, Like, I'm a very nice person.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
But he's got enough money where he can just pay Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I'm gonna get you servants and like a medical professional
to be in there, a mental health care professional and
all that. So you know, as far as him attempting
to off somebody, I don't know. I have to see
the video because it's said he was in a fight
with several people.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And so for me, you know, if it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
One on one, cool, depending on how I'm doing with
you with somebody else, jump.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Saying cool, But I don't care about attempted murder.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Tell me about the governor's wife.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I think the governor's wife is sitting at home and.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Saying, there's a phrase we call catching astray, were you're
not doing anything one someone, You're in a situation through
no faulty, right, the governor's wife caught astray because I'm
quite sure her communications person said, ma'am, we have to
talk to you about it. Antonio Brown story, Did you
have sex with a black football player at any time?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
She's like, first of all, I only have sex with
people who comb their hair on a regular basis. Oh
too far, too far, My bad?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
My bad?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Is that too much time to go?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Jackie Ray, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Been joining me in the studio is Jackie Ray. Jackie
is great to see you. We missed you last week. Yes,
Now we have to talk about some athletes, and you
and I are usually in agreement. Athletes should have a
space to be able to talk about things other than
sports or their sport. Absolutely, you know, professional athletes are people,
(00:28):
and people have politics and beliefs.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
But but here's the caveat some.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Of these guys, it's just idiots, just straight up idiots.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I got two idiots for you, Jackie Ray, and I
want to see what you could gather from their idiocy. First,
is Miami heat guard Tyler Hero. Okay, and he can ball, yeah,
get me wrong, but he doesn't believe any history before
the year nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Listen to this real thing?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah I think so, yeah, I don't think he's I
don't think he's behind history.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, you said you don't believe he hap like Twitterland, No,
I don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't believe anything that happened before nineteen fifty. Wait wait, no,
thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, So wait, you don't believe something that happened, like like,
how do we know when did he when did he
come to the land or whatever?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Churchill, they said.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
There's no way really knowing if it was him could be.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Involved, right, okay, the forest Columbus as if history did
not exist in any form before YouTube or YEV or videotape.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I mean like World War II happened before nineteen fifty?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
How did Okay, here's that was a lot like I'm stuttering,
just just trying to regurgitate. So when you look at
this political landscape, if you don't know how we got here,
what do.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
You think happening right now? This is a lung. Let's
say he's a voter, a voter he votes for. But
let's say he is a voter, his vote means as
much as mine in theory.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Right, But this is the problem then, because what is
he voting based upon?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He has no framework, his dumbosity. How did you?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Let's unpack this because if you don't believe in history,
when was the.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
NBA created pre nineteen fifty? So you playing point? You
playing in a game you don't believe in.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Stop trying to make sense. Let's get to the other idiot,
because we'll be here all night. Amon Shumpert. He is
a retired NBA player. He played with Cleveland. I don't
know where else he played. He played with Lakers for
a hot second. Those who may be in just popular culture.
He was married to rapper and actress Tianna Taylor for
some time. Fumbled it fumbled that bag, as they say,
(02:54):
he is of the opinion, like an increasing number of
NBA players, is of the opinion that the Earth is
not spherical, or in his terminology, it's not round, And
there's nothing you can do to convince him, prove to
him otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
This is a mon shumper in all of his ignorants.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
World being flat.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Bro, you have no proof that it's okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
What be crazy. How you're gonna prove to me is round?
Speaker 7 (03:23):
And how have you ever like flown? Yeah, the whole time,
really never ever ever, you know it, don't look.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I never saw one of them little windows and saw
enough earth to see a curve.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
You didn't do that. Look, but you can't see the
end of it, like I'm saying, if you like, go
to the go to the beach and look at the ocean.
It stops at one point because the curve you can't
keep going.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Like if it was flat, you could keep seeing.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
You could pull out a telescope and see farther and farther.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You want to know, it's crazy.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
I could paint you a picture right now and draw
a straight line and you could say it looked like
a curve picture exactly look like from where?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Why Tiana Taylor somewhere going? Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
How did that guy impress her?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I don't know, because I would have been done as
soon as he put an F on the end of Earth.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We are done.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
For the science people out there, the curvature of the
Earth is about eight inches per mile. Okay, if you
can get up high enough or have enough distance and
get perspective, you'll see the curvature of the earth. Why
Imon Schumper thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the world,
even though he.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Doesn't believe figured this out hundreds of years ago? Okay?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I feel like most of us when we were kids
in school, we made these sun dials and we could
see you know how so so did he fail that
or did he what happened? I need a history lesson
that Tyler hero doesn't believe exists.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I short of just putting all these dumb the fathers
on a rocket and take and shooting them off towards
the moon so they can Jeff Bezos Elon Musk helped
me out here where they can actually see it for themselves.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
They will wallow, okay, But the thing is, though you
don't have to see it for yourself. Then NASA literally
has a camera that's in space.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They don't believe.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They don't believe anything that that's happening on the International
Space Station, the pictures which are being back to us.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
They don't believe any of that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So short of them actually being in a rocket and
then they dip their head out the window and decompress
and explode because they think this probably just images being
pasted on the side of.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The right of the capsule. They're not going to believe.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's insane. So what's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is
that what that they believe in the Truman Show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Maybe maybe all of this is just a big lie,
But but that is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Part and parcel.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Here's the serious point of our nation today, because we
believe that everything is some sort of plot to deceive
us and control us, and everything which is told to
us is actually a lie, and we can't believe reality.
We can't believe history, we can't believe whatever we see
in the news today because fake news, fake news.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Listen, I write, it's not real. What you're seeing is
not real. Okay, I invented that. But I know where
we are and it's and it's interesting though. It is
because I have I have people that you know, not
that I'm related to or I know personally, but that
I've been in acquaintance with, who i would consider really
intelligent and insightful but very religious at the same time.
(06:40):
And I've sat down with them and I've had conversation
and randomly I like museums, and so anytime there's a
new dinosaur thing.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I love dinosaurs. Where this is going, yeah, you know
where this is going.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They don't believe that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are not
in the.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Bible, right, And according to the Bible, the Earth is
only so many thousands of.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Years ago, right, and so that way when people are saying,
you know, millions, so for them, nothing predates the Bible,
and so therefore dinosaurs don't exist. And then the bones
that are in the museum are absolutely fake and fabricated
to what end though, and that's always my question, what
how are you deceiving the people except for to say,
(07:19):
at some point we want somebody to make too many
series of Jurassic Park. Aside from that, what would be
the purpose of the lie?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The same with what would be the purpose of deceiving
all civilizations, not just in the United States, but all
civilization to convince them that the world is flat even
though scientifically.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
There's so many holes in that, so many, so many,
I mean, you know, and what's the upside of it?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And when is someone going to find the edge of the.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Disc because listen, I used to tell now this person
was a friend, but no longer, not now, But I
used to tell him. I was like, listen, I know
for a fact the Earth is not flat, because if
it was, do you know how many people I were
to kick off the side of it?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, I could make a really joke about certain news
going on today. Listen, there'll be a way in which
people would be removed from this country.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
There was an edge. Not going to call it the earth.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Okay, Earth might be flat, but Earth is not.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Vague news. Jamie Fox,
That was.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Jammy Fox Fox when we come back, we got some
more athletes to talk about and what they've done, what
they said. Antonio Brown, he's in the news for two things.
One he's in the news for attempted.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Murder charges again.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And he said that he slept with Governor Newsom's wife.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Same story.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And also Clayton Kershaw what he had on his hat
on Pride Night. He had a Bible verse on Pride Night.
And people are trying to talk about the Bible and
Christian beliefs. People are trying to read into the message
he was trying to share. We're gonna talk about that
when we come back. KFI AM six forty Going Beyond
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we talked about the dumbness Tyler Herro, the dumbness of
(09:36):
the Mond shemperd NBA. Now this we need to talk about.
I will say the views in Major League Baseball and football,
if you will, this is kind of politics for both
of them. Let's start with Clinton Kershaw, Dodger's great first
ballot Hall of Famer. He's an outspoke When I say
(09:56):
outspoken Christian, he's not in a political sense. He you
just know that's a part of his life and he
will let you know that when opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
During Pride Night on Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
On his hat his cap, there was a little inscription
which said Genesis nine twelve sixteen, and if you're not
familiar with that passage, this is on Pride Night for
context quote and God said, this is the sign of
the covenant that I make between me and you and
every living creature that is with you for all future generations.
(10:30):
I have set my bow in the cloud and it
shall be a sign of the covenant between me and
the earth. Talking about ratios, there has been some conjecture
about whether Clayton Kershaw was saying, no, this is the
true meaning of rainbow. It's not the Pride symbol. I know,
you've seen the story. How did it look to you?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It looked like exactly that.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
It looked like he was saying, you know, you guys
kind of hijacked this symbol that has meant this one
thing for generations, because it didn't used to mean that
when I was a kid. I distinctly remember I was
raised in the church, though, and I remember one time
we moved to Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm from Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
That's kind of like our West Hollywood is in Capitol Hill,
and I remember I drove down the street with my
mom and I was like, there's so many Christians in
this neighborhoods everywhere.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's such a good neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
My mom was like, Okay, you know, I was too
young for her to really break down to me what
that meant. So I you know, and this might not
be a popular opinion, I'm not mad at him for this.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I feel like this is his belief system. It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The backlash would have been swift and severe if he
hadn't participated, or if he didn't partake in any way,
or maybe whatever. That's always a thing when people decide
to opt out because they don't want to take part
in Pride Night.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We've seen athletes do that before.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He is a Christian man, and so there's a lot
of Christians that believe, you know, homosexuality is not a sin.
There's a lot of Christians I believe homosexuality is a sin.
Wherever he falls on that spectrum, that is his belief.
And as long as he's not harming anyone or bringing
any physical harm to anyone or berating anyone verbally, if
(12:13):
he wants to remind everybody what the rainbow originally meant,
I'm actually fine with it.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm fine with it in this way.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And this has nothing to do with Clayton Clearshaw specifically,
but it has to do with athletes generally.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Athletes will put slogans.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And things, Bible verses on their shoes or cleats and
what have you.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's not new.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Different leagues respond differently, And if you are comfortable with
putting who you are, whatever that means on your cleats,
on your hat, and you're welcome with whatever response the
league like. For example, if you do this in the NFL,
if you make any type of variation in your uniform,
you get fined instantly. Doesn't matter what you do. If
you wear one sock too high the other sock too low,
(12:56):
you get fine.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Depending on who you are, though not every athlete gets
fine in the same way.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But that's story fun another day.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Another thing.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But my point is if you want to make some
sort of statement and everyone knows that the camera's going
to be on Clayton Krishaw, so he knew that people
would see it, it would be enlarged and people would
speculate if you're okay with whatever the response will be,
be it fine.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Questions in the media, then I'm fine with it.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Right I When I saw this, my initial thought was like, uh, oh,
you know, people are going to get upset. But at
the same time, I feel the point that some people
will miss is everyone has a right to live their
life the way that they see fit that's best for them,
as long as it's not causing harm to other people.
So why you might while you might see this and
be offended by it. That is a problem between you
(13:43):
and whoever you pray to. This is his feeling, his
belief system, and he is showing that in a very
non evasive, non confrontational way, and he has every right
to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Let's stay with the Dodgers real quick.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And I didn't give you the story, but you may
know about the TikTok singer Natalie who sang the national anthem,
didn't chase the words, but saying it in Spanish against
the wishes of the Dodgers, who said explicitly don't do that.
They went carnation on this, said don't do that. You
did it anyway? And was I offended?
Speaker 8 (14:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Was I think? Did I think it was the right
thing to do?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
It goes back to Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now, if you believe in your heart that you need
to do it, going back to protests, however that is,
and you are willing to deal with whatever consequences in
this case, she'll probably probably be never asked back by
the Dodgers, then okay, follow your convictions.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It didn't hurt anyone.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And if you know the history of it, it's not
the first time it's been done. You know, You're just
it's just in another language. You're not changing the words
to make a formal protest. You're not trying to say
the land of the Free for immigrants in the home
of the Brave and immigrants too. You didn't make any changes,
you just say it in a different language.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, it's definitely a form of protest.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And I think, you know, given this climate, especially what's
happening to the Latino community in our country, that's why
she did it like that. I would bet my last
dollar that if what we're seeing with ice and things
of that nature weren't happening, she wouldn't have even considered
singing it in Spanish. So it was definitely a form
of protest. And look, that's the time that we're in.
People are the way that people protest. Not everybody's going
(15:20):
to go out into the street and risk getting a
rubber bullet in the thigh. You know, right, Mark, you
got a rubber bullet in the thigh all over the place.
Good gobally, So not everybody wants to be Mark Ronner.
Safety first, Safety first, because I know that left a
welt or two, Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I Actually I don't bruise and those gave me massive bruises.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, so see they're terrible. Not recommended.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Next time, just sing a song in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
No, well he can't sing. No, no, great plan, that's
my plan.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, he said, I had to be on key.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
He wouldn't be the first person that sung that national
anthem off key.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Very quickly before we go, Antonio Brown, I want to
call him a former NFL player At this point, I
don't think anyone's going to sign him. I don't know
if he's trolling, but he was a prominent Trump supporter.
I don't know if he's trolling because I don't think
he's not. That's what I'm saying. I don't think I
can't think him seriously with bost things that he say.
But now he's wanted for attempted murder. A warrant has
been issued for the rest of Antonio Brown with the
(16:20):
shooting that took place in Miami last month.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
But that's not that's not even the main.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Part of the story because in the story, as he
was proclaiming his innocence, at the same time, he also said,
and I'm trying to keep it as you know, peg
as possible said that. Well, he said, quote, I had
sex with your wife, Gavin as in Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I don't know. Stop laughing more. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I don't there's no evidence that's been presented that there's
actually connection between them. I do believe that there's something
emotionally wrong with until Brown.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
He took that big hit.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Anybody who's been following football, there was that moment in
time when he was in Pittsburgh. He came over the
middle and he got And ever since then, I've been
saying this that he did not. You know, the NFL
is horrible in my opinion when it comes to concussion protocol,
especially given what they know about CTE, which can't be
diagnosed until after you pass away. But the amount of
time that they leave people in concussion protocol doesn't make
(17:24):
sense to me. It's not really when we know for
sure you're healed, it's when we need your back kind
of thing. And so he's been out here playing with
some mental stress so much so that we know Tom
Brady moved him into his house, which I wouldn't have
done that, Like, I'm a very nice person.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
But he's got enough money where he can just pay Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I'm gonna get you servants and like a medical professional
to be in there, a mental health care professional and
all that. So you know, as far as him attempting
to off somebody, I don't know. I have to see
the video because it's said he was in a fight
with several people.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And so for me, you know, if it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
One on one, cool, depending on how I'm doing with
you with somebody else, jump.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Saying cool, But I don't care about attempted murder.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Tell me about the governor's wife.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I think the governor's wife is sitting at home and.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Saying, there's a phrase we call catching astray, were you're
not doing anything one someone, You're in a situation through
no faulty, right, the governor's wife caught astray because I'm
quite sure her communications person said, ma'am, we have to
talk to you about it. Antonio Brown story, Did you
have sex with a black football player at any time?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
She's like, first of all, I only have sex with
people who comb their hair on a regular basis. Oh
too far, too far, My bad?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
My bad?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Is that too much time to go?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Jackie Ray, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty
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