June 24, 2025 • 16 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on the controversary surrounding Lolo Jones being banned from the Olympic Training Center AND Shedeur Sanders Traffic Stop - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We live everywhere on social media and let's go beyond
the box score with our regular commentator Jackie Ray, who
joins us in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I saw this story regarding former Olympian Lolo Jones.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It is made by Blood Boil.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
If you don't know Lolo Jones, multi Olympics, multi sport
medaled athlete. She was suspended from using the training and
sports medicine facilities at the US Olympic and Paralympic Training
Center in Lake Placid for the past four months because
of a verbal confrontation with a sports medicine staff member
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after she was denied medical treatment at the center.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's important she was denied and then.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Make a long story short, she said to one of
the top officials, John Faltis, over there, you are a
fing excuse me, a horrible f in human being. Then
she was put out and they released a statement saying
this conduct is unacceptable and I want to make it
clear that such behavior cannot be tolerated. They did a
(01:13):
subsequent investigation and found that she should have not been
denied treatment at the Olympic Training Center.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They did not reinstate her and remove her suspension.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
For me, it's like, okay, so you basically admit that
you were in the wrong trained center. You also admit
that you're not going to remove the suspensions. Well, how
could you be wrong and also keep the penalty in place?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Obviously she was righteous in her anger, was she not?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
She was absolutely righteous, And I'm I would just love
to meet this medical professional, to meet someone who is
trying their best to finish out their career as strong
as possible. Know she's in some pain. I saw that
she had some incontinence at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That is, if y'all don't know what that is, Google
it lost control of bowels. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I couldn't figure out a good way to describe that.
But that is the worst possible scenario, especially when you're
an athlete, when you're any human being. So as a
medical professional to not say, hold on, even if she
was in the wrong, to see that she's in pain
and to know she has this issue, to not say,
let me take a beat, let me see what I
can do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Maybe we can get you in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Maybe we can get you in later today, because had
they taken that extra step, they might have seen instantly
that they were in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could have done both.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
In other words, they could have shown grace during right
or grace after right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Either or it would have been better than this.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
If they would have shown grace during this, you point out,
they probably could have rectified it all immediately. If they
showed grace afterward, it could have been an apology, our mistake.
Let's lift the suspension and move forward. But they couldn't
do either right.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And the crazy thing is is I love how they said, Oh,
she used, you know, foul language. If she would have
said you are a horrible human being and just left
out the pleasant adjective, it's my favorite word in the
English language. If she would have left that out, I
feel like they still would have done this to her
because she was probably irate when she said it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't feel like it's what she said. I think
it's how she said it, and it is probably all that.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But then you have to wonder if you're gonna talk
about the hippocratic oath and do no harm, well, there
has to be some sort of caveat that also says
help when you.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Can right right, And that's the thing when you're talking
about athletes, and when you're talking you have this center,
so athletes can really perform at their best and their
highest level. And then when you find out. So there's
two things that brothered me about this. Number One, you
found out you were wrong. You didn't even say oops,
my bad. You said, oh, we were wrong, so sorry
for you. We're just gonna stay on this road. But
you didn't even get both sides of the story. So
their little whack investigation only asked one person, and that
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was the person she said, you're a horrible f in
human being or whatever she said, But they didn't ask
the athletes around. The athletes around her said this is terrible,
This is way too far. This is retaliatory that should
not be happening. But their voices don't matter either. So
even the athletes that are in this that are not
suspended or didn't get access, you have to wonder how
they feel.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's something else to this.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
There's also allegations of selective enforcement of this code of conduct.
This past winner, a team USA Winter Sport athlete screamed
and cursed at a US teammate at an international event,
refusing to stop even after being warned by team officials
and other teammates. This code of conduct is supposed to
be all encompassing, is when you're trading facility, when you're
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competing all of those things, and if you're not going
to enforce it all the time, then I really have
to look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Even if the whole thing, to me, I just see
Kobe going soft. You soft, Like, what are we talking about.
We're talking about words, We're not talking about people getting physical.
We're talking about athletes. I don't know an athlete on
the planet who's never cursed in their lifetime and been
agitated about something, especially when they're competing at a high level.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So this is asinine protocol.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To me, it's soft, and it gives them leeway to
be selective and who they retaliate against.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I think it's intentional.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I wonder if there's not a lawsuit coming only because
the physical aspect of being in pain and being denied
treatment and then also being proven that you were wrongfully
denied treatment.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Lolo Jones, I think is forty one or forty Yeah,
this is it for her, Yeah, this is it so
this is.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The end of her career, and if you denied her
rehabilitation any type of treatment which shortened her career or
brought it on quicker, I could see a case there
I would be interested to see, and especially if you
start digging up more instances of selective.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Enforcement, right, And I'm wondering why they're not thinking about that,
because that would have made me immediately reverse it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Doing you know you're in the wrong, and you're saying, hey,
you're admitting you're in the wrong, publicly admitting and you're
in the wrong, but you're still going to suspend like
there's no one in your legal department that said, hey.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Excuse me, don't say that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
If you're watching a YouTube show or on Instagram, you
can see some of the video of Lolo Jones at
the point of reference. And she is a marketable individual
and I I mean not to say that she'll be
found very sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yes, and she's in fantastic shape to be her like
any age really, but she's in fantastic shape. And so
that's going to even garner more sympathy because you see
a woman who knows she's at the end of her career,
and she's trying to go out with a bang, and
you denied her the ability to do that. She's going
to have instant public sympathy.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Someone else who's in the news when we come back,
who I don't know, deserves public sympathy. Shaduor Sanders, the
son of Dion Sanders, you know, coach of Colorado. You
followed him, We followed the family for quite some time.
He originally was thought to be a first round draft pick,
a high first round draft pick. Long story short, deon
Sanders gotten away and basically boguarded and said certain teams
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were not going to be able to draft his son.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
He dropped to the fifth round for Eli's dad. But
you know the Eli didn't Eli say something similar.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, he said he was not going to play for
the San Diego Chargers. But I say that to say
to set this up that Shadoor Sanders, it was a feeling.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
There's a question about his character.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
There's a question about whether he was mature enough to
lead a franchise as a quarterback. He gets two speeding
tickets in a week, one for driving forty miles an
hour over the limit. I want to talk about that
with you when we come back, let's do it. If
I AM six forty We're going to be on the
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Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (07:28):
CAF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We're live on YouTube and everywhere else on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. We like to talk about sports,
but through the lens of just societal issues and things
that we don't break down the box Score. We break
down the issues in sports and how they apply to us.
Shadoor Sanders, very famous son of legendary football coach Hall
(07:51):
of Famer Dion Sanders, is now coming into the NFL
with a lot of expectations and I think maybe shud
Or Sanders fancy himself a little better than he is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But we'll see what happens on the field.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I know that if you're going to play quarterback in
the NFL, you are looked at as the face of
the franchise. Presumably after every game you are doing the
interview speaking on behalf of the team. Right, you have
to carry a much larger load and from that, higher expectations,
higher maturity level demanded. And when I see that Shudor
sanders not one but two speeding tickets, one for going
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ninety one and a sixty five zone and one going
one hundred in a one on one in a sixty
two days apart, that says to me that there may
be some immaturity issues, which has been highlighted in recent
recent weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, I think it's more than immaturity though too. I
think it's a level of entitlement. I think because of
who his father is and the expectation and the way
that he talks, and he does see himself at a
level that he has not reached yet. So the expectation is,
in my opinion, is he feels like he can he
can do these things, and if he does get pulled over,
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it's a oh my god, you're sure and you know
and then it's over. I think he sees himself at
a higher stature than what he actually is.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What scares me is life is going to happen. It
is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They're going to remind him that he's not for a
number of reasons. One, because you're a twenty two year
old black man with flowing a lot of money, right,
that draws unnecessary attention to you, a lot of attention
you may not want. And also you're your contract is
not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's not there.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But again, so I'm gonna tread lightly on this one, okay,
because if it was anybody else who had this opportunity,
this is an opportunity of a lifetime. This is an
opportunity that can change his life. This is not the
situation for him. He gonna have money regardless, He.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Had money coming in already because of the nil or
family money.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right, and so he he's in a different place. I
can tell you right now. If he gets dropped next week,
he's going to be someone where on commentating some game.
His career is not going to end just because football
doesn't work out. So he doesn't have the same Okay,
let me hunker down, let me prove myself. He doesn't
have that because he's never had to have that. So
his a little flip it with it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
The first ticket didn't bother me. I'm gonna say that
didn't bother me. I'm a speed demon myself, you know
what I mean. So I just I don't get caught
a lot. I know where they are, you know, so
it's different. The second ticket bothered me because once you
get that first one, then it should be a okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I still have to prove myself.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I still have to show the world that I am
the leader, because like it or not, I do think
that sometimes it's separate. Your life in football is different
from your real life. However it's not perceived that way.
How you are perceived is in totality. So if you
act crazy in the world, they're going to assume you're
acting crazy in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And you have to know.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Look, whether y' all like it or not, black people
we have to work twice as hard to get half
the credit. He knows this because he's seen this, and
this is America. We know what we know we're up against,
and he has an obligation, in my opinion, to make
sure that he's not only living up to certain standards,
but he exceeds the standards, and he makes sure that
black men coming up after him are not seeing like, oh,
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I bet you he's just like just because now he's
the standard that people can say, Oh, if Librador will do.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It, let me put it in just my terms.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I know whenever I walk into a room or whenever
I open this mic here on KFI, either I will
confirm or debunk stereotypes, right, and people will look for
that and they will say, well, he is this or
he's not that. Now, I don't mind someone twenty two
big twenty two. I don't want to have the wisdom
or sophistication of a fifty five year.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Old man because I didn't have that when I was
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I was a knucklehead, but I didn't have the same
level of expectations or burden on my shoulders. I hope
Deon Sanders can pull his son aside and say, look,
you are representing more than just yourself, right, and you
are also expected to conduct yourself in a different than
everyone else. And it may not be fair, but it's
a fact. You have to live up to those expectations.
(12:05):
Should Door Standers to me, as of yet, has not
shown that he's ready to accept that level of the responsibility,
from the way that he handled his time at the
Combine and how he handled his interviews to what he's
doing right now. I always wish the best for young athletes,
but I don't know that he's getting a wise counsel.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's my concern because you know, if you if
you're not old enough to remember Dion when he came
in the league, he was very showy as well. He
was very over the top, but it was still a limit.
He's still he was great in interviews.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
His teammates trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Didn't he didn't get in any trouble. His teammates loved him.
He was he was over the top, but in a
way that was very acceptable and it made him fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This isn't fun, so he has to learn.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And I'm surprised that there's not a level of self
reflection because sometimes when we just sit back and watch ourselves,
we can go ooh, that was not the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Should do us.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Not a generational talent, he's not as far, absolutely, and
he does not have the personality and affability of his father.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Do you think that maybe that's what we're seeing is
him understanding that he's not his father, and that's messing
with his mind in some way.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Maybe, But this is way too late in the game
to have a you know, an adolescent crisis of you're
trying to figure it out or Daddy issues. I'm just saying,
you know, you want to be in the league, you're
going to have to be a man in a man's league.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And what responsibility does Dion. Dion knows the game, Yes,
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I think he has the ultimate responsibility as coach and
father to make sure that his son is prepared to
deal with not only the league, but to deal with
the world.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And you know it's hard.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I've never experienced it, but to be twenty two and
be worth eight figures, that's insane. Yeah, it's insane, and
it's I know that I would not have been mature
enough for it, but this was the adventure that Dion
and Shaduur have both chosen.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think as a parent, I would know that that's
way too much money for a child, So I think
as a parent, I would want to set things up
have people around him. Sometimes the word from your parents
is not the words you want to hear, so you
have to make sure that there are other people in
play that can help. And maybe he just doesn't have that,
or maybe Dion needs to circulate some people out of
his circle.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
If there's another incident like this in the near term,
then I'm going to start believing that he's just not
mature enough.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
For the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I wouldn't let this speeding if I was Dion, I'm
snatching his keys. You're gonna get a driver's.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes, sometimes you have to protect people from themselves. But
you know, I hope that he will put it this way.
He will get a chance to prove himself on the field.
At some point, he may get cut by Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm being very.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Serious, yeah, this one, And that was going to be
my next question. If he gets cut, do we all
of a sudden see a different kid who now needs
he has humbled.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He hasn't been humbled yet. He hasn't dealt with any
real adversity.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't know if he's learned to take responsibility for
that which he does. You know, if people look at
him a certain way because of his antics honor off
the field, he has to own that right. And there's
a larger message I think for young people and athletes
in general, beyond shud or Sanders like. Look, I call
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this free wisdom. You don't need to make the same
mistakes as someone else to be able to extract the
wisdom from it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
One hundred percent. I wish him the best.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I want to see him succeed, but it's I think
his talent will eventually catch up. We just have to
make sure that his personality is in check.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Good luck your faith Sanders, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
But Dion, it's such a humble being now he he is.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
But I don't know that his son gets that maturation process.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Of his own father.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well. I mean, the kid's been on TV since he
was little, you know, so it's like he's never he's
not lived real life yet.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Let's just be honest, and.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I don't think he I don't think he's the star
that his father was at eighty level of football.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You can't tell him that though.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We'll talk to you soon,
Jackie Red KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We live everywhere on social media and let's go beyond
the box score with our regular commentator Jackie Ray, who
joins us in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good evening, Jackie, Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I saw this story regarding former Olympian Lolo Jones.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It is made by Blood Boil.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
If you don't know Lolo Jones, multi Olympics, multi sport
medaled athlete. She was suspended from using the training and
sports medicine facilities at the US Olympic and Paralympic Training
Center in Lake Placid for the past four months because
of a verbal confrontation with a sports medicine staff member
(00:45):
after she was denied medical treatment at the center.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's important she was denied and then.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Make a long story short, she said to one of
the top officials, John Faltis, over there, you are a
fing excuse me, a horrible f in human being. Then
she was put out and they released a statement saying
this conduct is unacceptable and I want to make it
clear that such behavior cannot be tolerated. They did a
(01:13):
subsequent investigation and found that she should have not been
denied treatment at the Olympic Training Center.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They did not reinstate her and remove her suspension.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
For me, it's like, okay, so you basically admit that
you were in the wrong trained center. You also admit
that you're not going to remove the suspensions. Well, how
could you be wrong and also keep the penalty in place?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Obviously she was righteous in her anger, was she not?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
She was absolutely righteous, And I'm I would just love
to meet this medical professional, to meet someone who is
trying their best to finish out their career as strong
as possible. Know she's in some pain. I saw that
she had some incontinence at that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That is, if y'all don't know what that is, Google
it lost control of bowels. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I couldn't figure out a good way to describe that.
But that is the worst possible scenario, especially when you're
an athlete, when you're any human being. So as a
medical professional to not say, hold on, even if she
was in the wrong, to see that she's in pain
and to know she has this issue, to not say,
let me take a beat, let me see what I
can do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Maybe we can get you in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Maybe we can get you in later today, because had
they taken that extra step, they might have seen instantly
that they were in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could have done both.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
In other words, they could have shown grace during right
or grace after right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Either or it would have been better than this.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
If they would have shown grace during this, you point out,
they probably could have rectified it all immediately. If they
showed grace afterward, it could have been an apology, our mistake.
Let's lift the suspension and move forward. But they couldn't
do either right.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And the crazy thing is is I love how they said, Oh,
she used, you know, foul language. If she would have
said you are a horrible human being and just left
out the pleasant adjective, it's my favorite word in the
English language. If she would have left that out, I
feel like they still would have done this to her
because she was probably irate when she said it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't feel like it's what she said. I think
it's how she said it, and it is probably all that.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But then you have to wonder if you're gonna talk
about the hippocratic oath and do no harm, well, there
has to be some sort of caveat that also says
help when you.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Can right right, And that's the thing when you're talking
about athletes, and when you're talking you have this center,
so athletes can really perform at their best and their
highest level. And then when you find out. So there's
two things that brothered me about this. Number One, you
found out you were wrong. You didn't even say oops,
my bad. You said, oh, we were wrong, so sorry
for you. We're just gonna stay on this road. But
you didn't even get both sides of the story. So
their little whack investigation only asked one person, and that
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was the person she said, you're a horrible f in
human being or whatever she said, But they didn't ask
the athletes around. The athletes around her said this is terrible,
This is way too far. This is retaliatory that should
not be happening. But their voices don't matter either. So
even the athletes that are in this that are not
suspended or didn't get access, you have to wonder how
they feel.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There's something else to this.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
There's also allegations of selective enforcement of this code of conduct.
This past winner, a team USA Winter Sport athlete screamed
and cursed at a US teammate at an international event,
refusing to stop even after being warned by team officials
and other teammates. This code of conduct is supposed to
be all encompassing, is when you're trading facility, when you're
(04:24):
competing all of those things, and if you're not going
to enforce it all the time, then I really have
to look at you sideways.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Even if the whole thing, to me, I just see
Kobe going soft. You soft, Like, what are we talking about.
We're talking about words, We're not talking about people getting physical.
We're talking about athletes. I don't know an athlete on
the planet who's never cursed in their lifetime and been
agitated about something, especially when they're competing at a high level.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So this is asinine protocol.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
To me, it's soft, and it gives them leeway to
be selective and who they retaliate against.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I think it's intentional.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I wonder if there's not a lawsuit coming only because
the physical aspect of being in pain and being denied
treatment and then also being proven that you were wrongfully
denied treatment.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Lolo Jones, I think is forty one or forty Yeah,
this is it for her, Yeah, this is it so
this is.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The end of her career, and if you denied her
rehabilitation any type of treatment which shortened her career or
brought it on quicker, I could see a case there
I would be interested to see, and especially if you
start digging up more instances of selective.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Enforcement, right, And I'm wondering why they're not thinking about that,
because that would have made me immediately reverse it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Doing you know you're in the wrong, and you're saying, hey,
you're admitting you're in the wrong, publicly admitting and you're
in the wrong, but you're still going to suspend like
there's no one in your legal department that said, hey.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Excuse me, don't say that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
If you're watching a YouTube show or on Instagram, you
can see some of the video of Lolo Jones at
the point of reference. And she is a marketable individual
and I I mean not to say that she'll be
found very sympathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yes, and she's in fantastic shape to be her like
any age really, but she's in fantastic shape. And so
that's going to even garner more sympathy because you see
a woman who knows she's at the end of her career,
and she's trying to go out with a bang, and
you denied her the ability to do that. She's going
to have instant public sympathy.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Someone else who's in the news when we come back,
who I don't know, deserves public sympathy. Shaduor Sanders, the
son of Dion Sanders, you know, coach of Colorado. You
followed him, We followed the family for quite some time.
He originally was thought to be a first round draft pick,
a high first round draft pick. Long story short, deon
Sanders gotten away and basically boguarded and said certain teams
(06:42):
were not going to be able to draft his son.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
He dropped to the fifth round for Eli's dad. But
you know the Eli didn't Eli say something similar.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, he said he was not going to play for
the San Diego Chargers. But I say that to say
to set this up that Shadoor Sanders, it was a feeling.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
There's a question about his character.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
There's a question about whether he was mature enough to
lead a franchise as a quarterback. He gets two speeding
tickets in a week, one for driving forty miles an
hour over the limit. I want to talk about that
with you when we come back, let's do it. If
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Speaker 1 (07:22):
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Speaker 2 (07:28):
CAF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
We're live on YouTube and everywhere else on social media
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down the issues in sports and how they apply to us.
Shadoor Sanders, very famous son of legendary football coach Hall
(07:51):
of Famer Dion Sanders, is now coming into the NFL
with a lot of expectations and I think maybe shud
Or Sanders fancy himself a little better than he is.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But we'll see what happens on the field.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I know that if you're going to play quarterback in
the NFL, you are looked at as the face of
the franchise. Presumably after every game you are doing the
interview speaking on behalf of the team. Right, you have
to carry a much larger load and from that, higher expectations,
higher maturity level demanded. And when I see that Shudor
sanders not one but two speeding tickets, one for going
(08:27):
ninety one and a sixty five zone and one going
one hundred in a one on one in a sixty
two days apart, that says to me that there may
be some immaturity issues, which has been highlighted in recent
recent weeks.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, I think it's more than immaturity though too. I
think it's a level of entitlement. I think because of
who his father is and the expectation and the way
that he talks, and he does see himself at a
level that he has not reached yet. So the expectation is,
in my opinion, is he feels like he can he
can do these things, and if he does get pulled over,
(09:07):
it's a oh my god, you're sure and you know
and then it's over. I think he sees himself at
a higher stature than what he actually is.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What scares me is life is going to happen. It
is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They're going to remind him that he's not for a
number of reasons. One, because you're a twenty two year
old black man with flowing a lot of money, right,
that draws unnecessary attention to you, a lot of attention
you may not want. And also you're your contract is
not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's not there.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But again, so I'm gonna tread lightly on this one, okay,
because if it was anybody else who had this opportunity,
this is an opportunity of a lifetime. This is an
opportunity that can change his life. This is not the
situation for him. He gonna have money regardless, He.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Had money coming in already because of the nil or
family money.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right, and so he he's in a different place. I
can tell you right now. If he gets dropped next week,
he's going to be someone where on commentating some game.
His career is not going to end just because football
doesn't work out. So he doesn't have the same Okay,
let me hunker down, let me prove myself. He doesn't
have that because he's never had to have that. So
his a little flip it with it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
The first ticket didn't bother me. I'm gonna say that
didn't bother me. I'm a speed demon myself, you know
what I mean. So I just I don't get caught
a lot. I know where they are, you know, so
it's different. The second ticket bothered me because once you
get that first one, then it should be a okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I still have to prove myself.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I still have to show the world that I am
the leader, because like it or not, I do think
that sometimes it's separate. Your life in football is different
from your real life. However it's not perceived that way.
How you are perceived is in totality. So if you
act crazy in the world, they're going to assume you're
acting crazy in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And you have to know.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Look, whether y' all like it or not, black people
we have to work twice as hard to get half
the credit. He knows this because he's seen this, and
this is America. We know what we know we're up against,
and he has an obligation, in my opinion, to make
sure that he's not only living up to certain standards,
but he exceeds the standards, and he makes sure that
black men coming up after him are not seeing like, oh,
(11:14):
I bet you he's just like just because now he's
the standard that people can say, Oh, if Librador will do.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It, let me put it in just my terms.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I know whenever I walk into a room or whenever
I open this mic here on KFI, either I will
confirm or debunk stereotypes, right, and people will look for
that and they will say, well, he is this or
he's not that. Now, I don't mind someone twenty two
big twenty two. I don't want to have the wisdom
or sophistication of a fifty five year.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Old man because I didn't have that when I was
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I was a knucklehead, but I didn't have the same
level of expectations or burden on my shoulders. I hope
Deon Sanders can pull his son aside and say, look,
you are representing more than just yourself, right, and you
are also expected to conduct yourself in a different than
everyone else. And it may not be fair, but it's
a fact. You have to live up to those expectations.
(12:05):
Should Door Standers to me, as of yet, has not
shown that he's ready to accept that level of the responsibility,
from the way that he handled his time at the
Combine and how he handled his interviews to what he's
doing right now. I always wish the best for young athletes,
but I don't know that he's getting a wise counsel.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's my concern because you know, if you if
you're not old enough to remember Dion when he came
in the league, he was very showy as well. He
was very over the top, but it was still a limit.
He's still he was great in interviews.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
His teammates trouble.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Didn't he didn't get in any trouble. His teammates loved him.
He was he was over the top, but in a
way that was very acceptable and it made him fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This isn't fun, so he has to learn.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And I'm surprised that there's not a level of self
reflection because sometimes when we just sit back and watch ourselves,
we can go ooh, that was not the right thing.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Should do us.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Not a generational talent, he's not as far, absolutely, and
he does not have the personality and affability of his father.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Do you think that maybe that's what we're seeing is
him understanding that he's not his father, and that's messing
with his mind in some way.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Maybe, But this is way too late in the game
to have a you know, an adolescent crisis of you're
trying to figure it out or Daddy issues. I'm just saying,
you know, you want to be in the league, you're
going to have to be a man in a man's league.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And what responsibility does Dion. Dion knows the game, Yes,
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I think he has the ultimate responsibility as coach and
father to make sure that his son is prepared to
deal with not only the league, but to deal with
the world.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And you know it's hard.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I've never experienced it, but to be twenty two and
be worth eight figures, that's insane. Yeah, it's insane, and
it's I know that I would not have been mature
enough for it, but this was the adventure that Dion
and Shaduur have both chosen.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think as a parent, I would know that that's
way too much money for a child, So I think
as a parent, I would want to set things up
have people around him. Sometimes the word from your parents
is not the words you want to hear, so you
have to make sure that there are other people in
play that can help. And maybe he just doesn't have that,
or maybe Dion needs to circulate some people out of
his circle.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
If there's another incident like this in the near term,
then I'm going to start believing that he's just not
mature enough.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
For the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I wouldn't let this speeding if I was Dion, I'm
snatching his keys. You're gonna get a driver's.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes, sometimes you have to protect people from themselves. But
you know, I hope that he will put it this way.
He will get a chance to prove himself on the field.
At some point, he may get cut by Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm being very.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Serious, yeah, this one, And that was going to be
my next question. If he gets cut, do we all
of a sudden see a different kid who now needs
he has humbled.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He hasn't been humbled yet. He hasn't dealt with any
real adversity.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't know if he's learned to take responsibility for
that which he does. You know, if people look at
him a certain way because of his antics honor off
the field, he has to own that right. And there's
a larger message I think for young people and athletes
in general, beyond shud or Sanders like. Look, I call
(15:17):
this free wisdom. You don't need to make the same
mistakes as someone else to be able to extract the
wisdom from it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
One hundred percent. I wish him the best.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I want to see him succeed, but it's I think
his talent will eventually catch up. We just have to
make sure that his personality is in check.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Good luck your faith Sanders, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
But Dion, it's such a humble being now he he is.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
But I don't know that his son gets that maturation process.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Of his own father.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Well. I mean, the kid's been on TV since he
was little, you know, so it's like he's never he's
not lived real life yet.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Let's just be honest, and.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I don't think he I don't think he's the star
that his father was at eighty level of football.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You can't tell him that though.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We'll talk to you soon,
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