July 15, 2025 • 18 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on John Elway avoiding charges in the golf cart accident wherein close friend Jeff Sperbeck died AND the idea of Laila Ali coming out of retirement to fight Claressa Shields - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is a Lady with mo Kelly with live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
and the iHeartRadio app. And joining us at this time
as she customarily does, is Jackie Ray. Let's go beyond
the box score, Jackie Ray.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Let's start with some professional football or adjacent to that.
John Elway Hall of Famer, ye football legend news broke
today that he will not be charged in the golf
cart incident that killed his close friend and superagent Jeff Spurbeck.
For those who don't know, it was being investigated investigated
(00:36):
by Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, who's also a candidate
for governor, and he confirmed that his department's investigation into
the golf cart incident that led to Spurbek's death found
nothing criminal. And I don't think I'm not going to
disagree with that because I'm not part of the investigation.
But I always wonder when you have very powerful, influential people,
(01:01):
and there are all sorts of incidences where you can
go to the death of Natalie Wood and the boating accident, right,
you just always naturally wonder when this story broke prior
to them finding nothing of the fairase here, What did
you think about the story?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So I'm from Colorado and so very familiar with John Elway.
My dad used to be his insurance agent for a time,
so yeah, he was an insurance agent for John Elway
and Steve School. So yeah, very familiar with him. And
I just assumed, because of the knowledge that I have
(01:36):
about him from just outside of football, I assumed that
it would at least be some negligence because he was
probably drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You say probably drinking because we know as a fact
that they were leaving a party, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And we know they both drink.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, and John Elway is no stranger to having a
very fond relationship with alcohol. So I just assumed at minimum,
I don't think that this was something you know, try
horse plays, probably just goofing around, you know. I didn't
think it would be anything nefarious, but I definitely thought
negligence would be at least, you know, some sort of
(02:10):
charge in that and what that would have meant for him.
I didn't I don't think it would have met any
jail time or anything like that, but definitely would have
found him guilty of some sort of negligence.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
For people who don't know, Spurbeck was not riding in
the golf cart. He was standing on the back with
one other person who was also standing. John Oway's wife
was in the golf seat next to him. Now, it's
from what I understand, there were five people on this cart,
which I don't think is bad for five.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Also tells you that everybody was probably drinking because it
was only made for two people.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That goes back to negligence as well, right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Right, So at some point it's like, what responsibility do
you have when you have this golf cart that's only
built for two people? Do you say, And this is
a question that I would ask people, even when you
are completely sober, when all your friends are walking back
from something, is this something that you don't say, Oh yeah,
I just jump off like and then if something happened,
are you negligent in that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Again, I don't think it was nefarious in any way,
but definitely negligent.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I don't think there was any moment where you're doing
something where you're consciously putting your friend in danger. Right,
he may have just slipped off the back and fell
and hit.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
His head, and why the old man was standing instead
of sitting as crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are you gonna have his wife's stand?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, somebody needed somebody who if they fell off, would
be less likely to have a devastating injury.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Should have been standing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
But you're thinking soberly correct and you're thinking clearly this
was after a party.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
They were leaving a party.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
They're actually pictures of Lway and Spurbek holding wine glasses together, imposing.
So there is a reasonable assumption, right that alcohol was
part of the equation, not all of it, and it
may not have been connected to even him falling and slipping,
or it may have been that, yeah, he Spurbek was
drunk and that maybe why why Yeah, Yeah, it could
(03:58):
be a combination of things. It's just one of those
things where there's always a part of me which makes
me wonder because I know for a fact, and I
can't say all the reasons why that prominent sports.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Figures are covered for yes, the one hundred percent. I
actually had a David Cowboy fans would know him David
Irvin on my podcast that'll be out shortly, and he
talked about all the ways that he was covered when
he would partake in cannabis and how he was told, hey,
we're gonna mark you whatever. They marked him so he
(04:31):
wouldn't show up to practice that day so he didn't
have to get drug tested. So there's all kinds of
ways that people in the sports world cover their athletes,
especially now. They might not do that for you if
you're coming off the bench and you're not good, are you?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But if you're a yeah, Hall of famer, yes, yes,
I'll tell you. I'll tell you a conspiracy theory, m
but I almost believed it because of who this person
was at the time. Okay, cal Ripkin Junior was playing
for the Baltimore Oriols, and if you know anything about
cal Ripton Junior, he was chasing Lou Gegg's consecutive game streak.
(05:09):
I was working for Jim Rome at the time, and
I won't say who because it was a prominent baseball executive.
But that person told me that he didn't believe that
cal Ripkin had genuinely beaten lou Garrick's streak because there
was a question about one night.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Now, this is all.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Conspiracy theory, so I'm not you know, this is what
was told to me that cal Ripton got liquored up
and did something something something, got put in jail and
was unable to play. The next day, the organization covered
for him. Again, it's just a conspiracy theory. It's not
going to change the record or anything. But this was
coming from someone who was relatively in the know.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
It's only a conspiracy theory because nobody's coming out with
the proof proof right.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But if it does come out years later in some documentary,
just know that that it had legs many years before.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
R right.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But that's you know, that's called protecting your brand. It's
not good for the brand.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We can debate all day, every day and twice on
Sunday if it's actually good for the individual because they
get used to being coddled in such such a way
and that could potentially increase bad habits that can affect
you later on in life or in an incident like this.
So I'm not saying it's a good thing. But protecting
the brand is something most companies do.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right, and sometimes it gets so big that they can't
right exactly. I remember Jim Orsay, now recently departed, got
into some incidents of dui in sense and it got
to be so big that they.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Couldn't cover it right, right, The Dallas Mavericks the situation
there with the harassment that got so big that no
longer can cover it up, but somebody had been trying
for a while, So yeah, always got to protect the brand.
And in this case, I think the positive in this
situation is because they were such good friends and they've
known each other for so long. I don't know if
(06:59):
there's any punished that they could have put on John
Elway that was going to be worse than the punishment
that he's probably feeling himself. So I mean, I get
justice might not have necessarily been served, but I'm sure
as far as like the family and stuff, he is
doing things on his own, So I'm not sure that
there's any punishment that could have matched what he's doing
to himself.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Speaking of punishment, we told you about the story of
Joy Taylor and Foxfort Yes and how the lawsuit which
came for which allege that Joy Taylor, among other things,
was sleeping with an executive that which opened the door
for her TV show which has now been canceled.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Let's talk about that when we come back to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And also Laila Ali is she getting back in the
boxes better than not. Well, she's saying they offer the
right money. She might at the age of we'll she
walk out. We'll find out sixty Live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I Am six forty is Later Moll Kelly. We're live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. And I got to tell
you I enjoy speaking with Jackie Ray because I like
talking about sports, but I don't want to get into
all the stats and everything. I like the things circling
around sports. And we told you some time ago, a
few months ago about a lawsuit in which former now
(08:19):
former Fox Sports television host Joy Taylor was named in
a lawsuit which was filed by an ex employee, where
Taylor allegedly told makeup artists Nushan Faraji, the person who
filed the lawsuit, to get over the sexual harassment that
she had been a victim of, allegedly and also by
(08:39):
programming executive Charlie Dixon, who allegedly Taylor was in a
longtime sexual relationship with Dixon, who is also married, that
scandal I told you watched very closely is going to
be very important. And it was announced today that Joey
Taylor was either fired or her contract was not renewed,
depending on how you look at at it, and the
(09:01):
show that she was on those hosts Keishawn Johnson and
Paul Pierce. That show was I think it was called
The Breakfast Ball and the facility were also canceled.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Do you do you connect it to the lawsuit or
am I connecting dots which aren't there?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, it's absolutely connected. This is again what we just
talked about in the last segment, protecting the brand. So
do I think that this wasn't common knowledge before the
lawsuit was filed? I absolutely do not. There's always you
and I have been in this business long enough to
know there's very few secrets in close quarters like that,
(09:41):
right right I.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
May not be spoken of, but you kind of know.
Some of it is rumor and conjecture, some of it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Is fact, and some of it is just blatantly obvious.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I e.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Your holiday party, that's where you literally find out a
lot of tea some of the time. And it's not
just about who can drink the most. Just since y'all
keep backing that bus up over if.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're not aware, in the moviegos motown Chat, they are
still discussing Chateau le Mo, the sare and how Jack
Ray Daniels look.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I just passed around the love nobody turned it down.
So but now take that for example, if something had crazy,
it happened, well, we have downplayed it, probably because it's
not nobody's business, right, But if it affects the brand,
it doesn't affect the brand until it affects the brand.
And this is what this lawsuit did. So I think
ESPN is just covering their tracks right now.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You mean Fox? I mean, I'm sorry Fox. We don't
want to throw them money. Yeah, we done. Sorry, bad bad,
But staying right there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
As far as women in sports, not necessarily sports media,
but actual sports, Leila Ali, I don't know how serious
she was. We know that she's undefeated, Phenom had last
boxed two thousand and seven years ago. She threw it
out to that she would be willing to come out
of retirement and fight and fight Clarissa t Rex Shields
(10:59):
for the right amount.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I would fight Mike Tyson for the right I'm
gonna run around the ring.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But if you put one hundred million dollars out there
and I can go out there and with some head gear, yeah,
and a and a baseball bat, I might take my
chances for thirty seconds.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Absolutely, Tyson will knock me out if he can catch me.
But he's not gonna catch me on first pick.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The first time he hits me, him going down like Sunday,
that'll be it. And you can say what you want
about me. But Laila a La said, yeah, for fifteen
to twenty million, I come out of retirement, and before
people just laughed it off. Remember we're in the world
of Jake Paul right What I mean of that, the
world of exhibitions where you have the older, more venerable,
(11:40):
respected fighter fighting the up and coming young buck what
have you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's about spectacle, right I. So here's my think thinking
on this one. And this is gonna be this is
just conjecture, This is just my opinion. Layla was what
was he twenty one fights, no losses, twenty knockouts something
like that. Yeah, it's Banana's her record. You don't come
out of retirement and try to tarnish that and not
(12:06):
unless you broke. That's my opinion. I feel like this
is a money thing.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Would you start with no, no, no, no. I want to
protect my legacy or something. I want to show that
I'm the all time greatest, right, that's what they know.
She said, no, No, You're gonna come up with the money,
A whole bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, on top of that. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't
do that if I were here. Before I got here,
I looked up to see if Clarissa had issued a response,
and she did, and the response was crazy, let me
see if I can find it. But she basically just said,
you know what, I've been wanting to put you in
your place. You're one hundred and seventy five pounds and
forty seven. I will knock you out. And she would.
(12:41):
I mean, she is an amazing fighter as well. And
the reality of it is is like people once they
passed And I think this is an athlete problem because
we see this at every sport. Once people pass their prime,
they have a hard time accepting that they are past
their prime.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Darryl Sexton in the Motown Chat says, hey, hey, hey,
slow down. How long of a layoff did George Foreman
have when he came back in the nineties and regained
the heavyweight championship of the world, and he was, if
I remember correctly, forty seven he was.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Is that the exception which proves the rule? No, it's
just the exception. It's just the exception. Well, I guess
the rule is, yeah, you know, you're two damn old to.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Becoming and why would you even want to suggest? And
the thing is for me, if she had just said, hey,
like if they had been beefing on X or whatever,
and then she was like, all right, we're gonna have
to put your money where your mouth is. That's fine, Okay,
I get it. But the price tag to me says
this isn't really about protecting her legacy as much as
it is protecting her bank account.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's a payday fifteen to twenty million for someone.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Who has not fought in at least seventeen years, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Even though it was undefeated.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But we can't say that she is credibly one of
the best in the world anymore?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And how could she be? You're not?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
People forget like the training that you do when you're
active in your sport, is it? It's insane. There's no
way she's training right now the same way she was
training when she was fighting. Why would she.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Nobody is as good at forty seven as the word
twenty four. And I say that very humbly, right as
someone who's practiced martial arts and competing.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Actually, I'm sorry, I'm not the same fighter I was.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
No ilso don't like working out like it's not fun.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not fun.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, I want to go sit down somewhere as we're.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Talking about the elite athlete. Now, was she an elite athlete? Absolutely? Absolutely,
but that was maybe three presidents ago, no four presidents.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I think I think her bigger concern, and again this
is just my opinion, y'all, and I love Leila Ali,
but I think her bigger concern should be why isn't
she working? Why isn't she commentating boxing like the men
the women's Like there's something going on, whether it's a
personality thing, ego or whatever. This woman should be commentating
(14:50):
about boxing. We should be seeing her ringside. She shouldn't
be asking for this kind of pay day because she
should be getting paid right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
She should be one of the loudest voices within female
boxing community. Yes, not only does she have the pedigree
and the name recognition just herself Leila Ali and of
course the daughter of muhammadad right, but she was one of.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
The of the.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Not necessar the forerunners, but the torch bearers of women's boxing.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
She made women's boxing relevant. She made it a sport
that everybody, both men and women, looked at as oh,
this is legitimate. She is a legitimately good fighter, full stop,
so that legacy. No one can ever take that legacy
away from her. So again, I think this should be
a bigger She's She might need the money, I still
stand by that, but let's listen, but let's figure out
(15:40):
a way that we can get you paid consistently and
still have your name be relevant in the sports you
can you clearly still love without you having a step
in the ring.
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Speaker 3 (16:26):
Jackiu Ray, what are you working on on the Jackuary Show?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So I have the David Irvin podcast coming out with
the JACKU Ray Show, but that one, I'm really excited
for people to hear because what he's talking about is
the amount of pain that he was in as an
athlete and how he chose not to take like the
prescription drugs that most people get because he saw the
addictions and things like that that come with those kinds
(16:48):
of things. So he went, you know, the marijuana route,
and then that's why he was covered for. But now
he's trying to branch out and he's partnered with another
company that does like holistic healing and he's trying to
bring that to the public. So I'm excited for people
to hear that one.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is a Lady with mo Kelly with live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
and the iHeartRadio app. And joining us at this time
as she customarily does, is Jackie Ray. Let's go beyond
the box score, Jackie Ray.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Let's start with some professional football or adjacent to that.
John Elway Hall of Famer, ye football legend news broke
today that he will not be charged in the golf
cart incident that killed his close friend and superagent Jeff Spurbeck.
For those who don't know, it was being investigated investigated
(00:36):
by Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco, who's also a candidate
for governor, and he confirmed that his department's investigation into
the golf cart incident that led to Spurbek's death found
nothing criminal. And I don't think I'm not going to
disagree with that because I'm not part of the investigation.
But I always wonder when you have very powerful, influential people,
(01:01):
and there are all sorts of incidences where you can
go to the death of Natalie Wood and the boating accident, right,
you just always naturally wonder when this story broke prior
to them finding nothing of the fairase here, What did
you think about the story?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So I'm from Colorado and so very familiar with John Elway.
My dad used to be his insurance agent for a time,
so yeah, he was an insurance agent for John Elway
and Steve School. So yeah, very familiar with him. And
I just assumed, because of the knowledge that I have
(01:36):
about him from just outside of football, I assumed that
it would at least be some negligence because he was
probably drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You say probably drinking because we know as a fact
that they were leaving a party, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And we know they both drink.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, and John Elway is no stranger to having a
very fond relationship with alcohol. So I just assumed at minimum,
I don't think that this was something you know, try
horse plays, probably just goofing around, you know. I didn't
think it would be anything nefarious, but I definitely thought
negligence would be at least, you know, some sort of
(02:10):
charge in that and what that would have meant for him.
I didn't I don't think it would have met any
jail time or anything like that, but definitely would have
found him guilty of some sort of negligence.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
For people who don't know, Spurbeck was not riding in
the golf cart. He was standing on the back with
one other person who was also standing. John Oway's wife
was in the golf seat next to him. Now, it's
from what I understand, there were five people on this cart,
which I don't think is bad for five.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Also tells you that everybody was probably drinking because it
was only made for two people.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That goes back to negligence as well, right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Right, So at some point it's like, what responsibility do
you have when you have this golf cart that's only
built for two people? Do you say, And this is
a question that I would ask people, even when you
are completely sober, when all your friends are walking back
from something, is this something that you don't say, Oh yeah,
I just jump off like and then if something happened,
are you negligent in that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Again, I don't think it was nefarious in any way,
but definitely negligent.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I don't think there was any moment where you're doing
something where you're consciously putting your friend in danger. Right,
he may have just slipped off the back and fell
and hit.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
His head, and why the old man was standing instead
of sitting as crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Are you gonna have his wife's stand?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, somebody needed somebody who if they fell off, would
be less likely to have a devastating injury.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Should have been standing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
But you're thinking soberly correct and you're thinking clearly this
was after a party.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
They were leaving a party.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
They're actually pictures of Lway and Spurbek holding wine glasses together, imposing.
So there is a reasonable assumption, right that alcohol was
part of the equation, not all of it, and it
may not have been connected to even him falling and slipping,
or it may have been that, yeah, he Spurbek was
drunk and that maybe why why Yeah, Yeah, it could
(03:58):
be a combination of things. It's just one of those
things where there's always a part of me which makes
me wonder because I know for a fact, and I
can't say all the reasons why that prominent sports.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Figures are covered for yes, the one hundred percent. I
actually had a David Cowboy fans would know him David
Irvin on my podcast that'll be out shortly, and he
talked about all the ways that he was covered when
he would partake in cannabis and how he was told, hey,
we're gonna mark you whatever. They marked him so he
(04:31):
wouldn't show up to practice that day so he didn't
have to get drug tested. So there's all kinds of
ways that people in the sports world cover their athletes,
especially now. They might not do that for you if
you're coming off the bench and you're not good, are you?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But if you're a yeah, Hall of famer, yes, yes,
I'll tell you. I'll tell you a conspiracy theory, m
but I almost believed it because of who this person
was at the time. Okay, cal Ripkin Junior was playing
for the Baltimore Oriols, and if you know anything about
cal Ripton Junior, he was chasing Lou Gegg's consecutive game streak.
(05:09):
I was working for Jim Rome at the time, and
I won't say who because it was a prominent baseball executive.
But that person told me that he didn't believe that
cal Ripkin had genuinely beaten lou Garrick's streak because there
was a question about one night.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Now, this is all.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Conspiracy theory, so I'm not you know, this is what
was told to me that cal Ripton got liquored up
and did something something something, got put in jail and
was unable to play. The next day, the organization covered
for him. Again, it's just a conspiracy theory. It's not
going to change the record or anything. But this was
coming from someone who was relatively in the know.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
It's only a conspiracy theory because nobody's coming out with
the proof proof right.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But if it does come out years later in some documentary,
just know that that it had legs many years before.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
R right.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
But that's you know, that's called protecting your brand. It's
not good for the brand.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
We can debate all day, every day and twice on
Sunday if it's actually good for the individual because they
get used to being coddled in such such a way
and that could potentially increase bad habits that can affect
you later on in life or in an incident like this.
So I'm not saying it's a good thing. But protecting
the brand is something most companies do.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right, and sometimes it gets so big that they can't
right exactly. I remember Jim Orsay, now recently departed, got
into some incidents of dui in sense and it got
to be so big that they.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Couldn't cover it right, right, The Dallas Mavericks the situation
there with the harassment that got so big that no
longer can cover it up, but somebody had been trying
for a while, So yeah, always got to protect the brand.
And in this case, I think the positive in this
situation is because they were such good friends and they've
known each other for so long. I don't know if
(06:59):
there's any punished that they could have put on John
Elway that was going to be worse than the punishment
that he's probably feeling himself. So I mean, I get
justice might not have necessarily been served, but I'm sure
as far as like the family and stuff, he is
doing things on his own, So I'm not sure that
there's any punishment that could have matched what he's doing
to himself.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Speaking of punishment, we told you about the story of
Joy Taylor and Foxfort Yes and how the lawsuit which
came for which allege that Joy Taylor, among other things,
was sleeping with an executive that which opened the door
for her TV show which has now been canceled.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Let's talk about that when we come back to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And also Laila Ali is she getting back in the
boxes better than not. Well, she's saying they offer the
right money. She might at the age of we'll she
walk out. We'll find out sixty Live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I Am six forty is Later Moll Kelly. We're live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. And I got to tell
you I enjoy speaking with Jackie Ray because I like
talking about sports, but I don't want to get into
all the stats and everything. I like the things circling
around sports. And we told you some time ago, a
few months ago about a lawsuit in which former now
(08:19):
former Fox Sports television host Joy Taylor was named in
a lawsuit which was filed by an ex employee, where
Taylor allegedly told makeup artists Nushan Faraji, the person who
filed the lawsuit, to get over the sexual harassment that
she had been a victim of, allegedly and also by
(08:39):
programming executive Charlie Dixon, who allegedly Taylor was in a
longtime sexual relationship with Dixon, who is also married, that
scandal I told you watched very closely is going to
be very important. And it was announced today that Joey
Taylor was either fired or her contract was not renewed,
depending on how you look at at it, and the
(09:01):
show that she was on those hosts Keishawn Johnson and
Paul Pierce. That show was I think it was called
The Breakfast Ball and the facility were also canceled.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Do you do you connect it to the lawsuit or
am I connecting dots which aren't there?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
No, it's absolutely connected. This is again what we just
talked about in the last segment, protecting the brand. So
do I think that this wasn't common knowledge before the
lawsuit was filed? I absolutely do not. There's always you
and I have been in this business long enough to
know there's very few secrets in close quarters like that,
(09:41):
right right I.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
May not be spoken of, but you kind of know.
Some of it is rumor and conjecture, some of it.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Is fact, and some of it is just blatantly obvious.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I e.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Your holiday party, that's where you literally find out a
lot of tea some of the time. And it's not
just about who can drink the most. Just since y'all
keep backing that bus up over if.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You're not aware, in the moviegos motown Chat, they are
still discussing Chateau le Mo, the sare and how Jack
Ray Daniels look.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I just passed around the love nobody turned it down.
So but now take that for example, if something had crazy,
it happened, well, we have downplayed it, probably because it's
not nobody's business, right, But if it affects the brand,
it doesn't affect the brand until it affects the brand.
And this is what this lawsuit did. So I think
ESPN is just covering their tracks right now.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You mean Fox? I mean, I'm sorry Fox. We don't
want to throw them money. Yeah, we done. Sorry, bad bad,
But staying right there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
As far as women in sports, not necessarily sports media,
but actual sports, Leila Ali, I don't know how serious
she was. We know that she's undefeated, Phenom had last
boxed two thousand and seven years ago. She threw it
out to that she would be willing to come out
of retirement and fight and fight Clarissa t Rex Shields
(10:59):
for the right amount.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I would fight Mike Tyson for the right I'm
gonna run around the ring.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But if you put one hundred million dollars out there
and I can go out there and with some head gear, yeah,
and a and a baseball bat, I might take my
chances for thirty seconds.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Absolutely, Tyson will knock me out if he can catch me.
But he's not gonna catch me on first pick.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The first time he hits me, him going down like Sunday,
that'll be it. And you can say what you want
about me. But Laila a La said, yeah, for fifteen
to twenty million, I come out of retirement, and before
people just laughed it off. Remember we're in the world
of Jake Paul right What I mean of that, the
world of exhibitions where you have the older, more venerable,
(11:40):
respected fighter fighting the up and coming young buck what
have you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's about spectacle, right I. So here's my think thinking
on this one. And this is gonna be this is
just conjecture, This is just my opinion. Layla was what
was he twenty one fights, no losses, twenty knockouts something
like that. Yeah, it's Banana's her record. You don't come
out of retirement and try to tarnish that and not
(12:06):
unless you broke. That's my opinion. I feel like this
is a money thing.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Would you start with no, no, no, no. I want to
protect my legacy or something. I want to show that
I'm the all time greatest, right, that's what they know.
She said, no, No, You're gonna come up with the money,
A whole bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, on top of that. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't
do that if I were here. Before I got here,
I looked up to see if Clarissa had issued a response,
and she did, and the response was crazy, let me
see if I can find it. But she basically just said,
you know what, I've been wanting to put you in
your place. You're one hundred and seventy five pounds and
forty seven. I will knock you out. And she would.
(12:41):
I mean, she is an amazing fighter as well. And
the reality of it is is like people once they
passed And I think this is an athlete problem because
we see this at every sport. Once people pass their prime,
they have a hard time accepting that they are past
their prime.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Darryl Sexton in the Motown Chat says, hey, hey, hey,
slow down. How long of a layoff did George Foreman
have when he came back in the nineties and regained
the heavyweight championship of the world, and he was, if
I remember correctly, forty seven he was.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Is that the exception which proves the rule? No, it's
just the exception. It's just the exception. Well, I guess
the rule is, yeah, you know, you're two damn old to.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Becoming and why would you even want to suggest? And
the thing is for me, if she had just said, hey,
like if they had been beefing on X or whatever,
and then she was like, all right, we're gonna have
to put your money where your mouth is. That's fine, Okay,
I get it. But the price tag to me says
this isn't really about protecting her legacy as much as
it is protecting her bank account.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's a payday fifteen to twenty million for someone.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Who has not fought in at least seventeen years, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Even though it was undefeated.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But we can't say that she is credibly one of
the best in the world anymore?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And how could she be? You're not?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
People forget like the training that you do when you're
active in your sport, is it? It's insane. There's no
way she's training right now the same way she was
training when she was fighting. Why would she.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Nobody is as good at forty seven as the word
twenty four. And I say that very humbly, right as
someone who's practiced martial arts and competing.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Actually, I'm sorry, I'm not the same fighter I was.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
No ilso don't like working out like it's not fun.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not fun.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, I want to go sit down somewhere as we're.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Talking about the elite athlete. Now, was she an elite athlete? Absolutely? Absolutely,
but that was maybe three presidents ago, no four presidents.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I think I think her bigger concern, and again this
is just my opinion, y'all, and I love Leila Ali,
but I think her bigger concern should be why isn't
she working? Why isn't she commentating boxing like the men
the women's Like there's something going on, whether it's a
personality thing, ego or whatever. This woman should be commentating
(14:50):
about boxing. We should be seeing her ringside. She shouldn't
be asking for this kind of pay day because she
should be getting paid right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
She should be one of the loudest voices within female
boxing community. Yes, not only does she have the pedigree
and the name recognition just herself Leila Ali and of
course the daughter of muhammadad right, but she was one of.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
The of the.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Not necessar the forerunners, but the torch bearers of women's boxing.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
She made women's boxing relevant. She made it a sport
that everybody, both men and women, looked at as oh,
this is legitimate. She is a legitimately good fighter, full stop,
so that legacy. No one can ever take that legacy
away from her. So again, I think this should be
a bigger She's She might need the money, I still
stand by that, but let's listen, but let's figure out
(15:40):
a way that we can get you paid consistently and
still have your name be relevant in the sports you
can you clearly still love without you having a step
in the ring.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Just want to let you know before we go to break,
we have two Coachella Valley Coffee swag bags to give
away tonight. Each bag contains some cool swag, some classic
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(16:10):
this in the next hour. Just want to let you know,
so stick around for that, especially if you are a
frequent listener to show. We know that I should say,
you know that we love to give stuff away, so
we're going to be giving away two Coachella Valley Coffee
swag bags to night.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Jackiu Ray, what are you working on on the Jackuary Show?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So I have the David Irvin podcast coming out with
the JACKU Ray Show, but that one, I'm really excited
for people to hear because what he's talking about is
the amount of pain that he was in as an
athlete and how he chose not to take like the
prescription drugs that most people get because he saw the
addictions and things like that that come with those kinds
(16:48):
of things. So he went, you know, the marijuana route,
and then that's why he was covered for. But now
he's trying to branch out and he's partnered with another
company that does like holistic healing and he's trying to
bring that to the public. So I'm excited for people
to hear that one.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
And Jackie Ray, they can find you where everywhere.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You can follow me on my website jackieatv dot com
and all social media at Jackie Ray TV and it's
our A E R A E j A c k
I E R A E.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Why do they keep misspelling your name in the check
because they can literally see you you are participating.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
With I don't know, but but you know, y'all talk
about me and drinking y'all read my name.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Are also real quick. There's two things going on, talking
about getting backed over the bus. And she's got some
fans tonight too.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Oh I got some fans.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, no, no, they are complimenting. You have some stalkers. Yeah,
you have some stalkers. Some folks want people are trying
to get some dates.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Well, you know, we got height requirements now, so post
a hike start.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay, let's not go there again. No, no, let's go there.
What's what's the minimum? Oh it's like six to two.
I know it's like six'. Five, no you a? Minimum
said That i'm five to.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Eleven six foot is, preferable but the LOWEST i would
go would be five to.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Nine as a six, FOOTER i think this is perfectly.
Reasonable thank, you thank. You.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Mark, no, yeah he's saying that he's as a six.
Footer he's saying, That, okay, yeah not, you but he
Mark ronner.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
As a six. Footer he's presenting. HIMSELF i love.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
That got.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It gotta take the, shot, miss all the shots you don't.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Take does that mean that you're accepting resumes in the?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Chat, YES i mean because it's either except resumes OR
i just got to buy that, man coon, Cat i've been.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
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