July 22, 2025 • 20 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on some truly outrageous commentary made on the Club 520 podcast targeting Erving Magic Johnson AND Shannon Sharpe rape accuser Gabriella Zuniga announcing her Retirement from OnlyFans after settling her lawsuit against Sharpe - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sorry, hey, y'all, I I got him into some stuff
k IF I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We just had some misunderstandings in the studio during the break.
I want to know what happened because I.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Know you don't. No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'll just I'll just say this so people know that
I'm not making this stuff. I'm not going to tell
the whole story. Jackie Jackie Ray when she came over
to Chateau Lemo brought a male friend, a friend friend friend,
and during the break, Jackie was telling us good Evening,
Jackie Ray, Good Evening, why they're not more than friends
(00:40):
and and got to be very It was a heartfelt
story and then it turned dark.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
But I did not turn it there. She's there. No,
I just told you how he was going to move on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're just gonna move on because I can't talk about
what you said. It's it's rated X and I don't
feel comfortable toime. We're gonna get ready to catch a
human resources case up in here, though. We're just going
to talk about sports in the Intersection with Society, Magic
Johnson is my favorite Laker of all time, bar none,
It's not close. I think he is one of the
(01:15):
most transformational players in the history of the NBA, even
more so than Larry Bird, even though they're put together.
I know that's the biased comment because I'm a Laker fan,
but I don't have time for all that. In other words,
any type of Magic Johnson's slander, I have a problem, right,
so I'm super sensitive to that. But I've noticed lately
he's been catching strays, as they say, and he's not
(01:38):
even in the public discourse. People just keep want to
insert himself. Part of it is because Bleacher Report had
a list of the top one hundred players of all
time NBA players, and Magic on the list was number four.
The new generation thinks us too high. The older generation
thinks is just right. But he's been a topic of
conversation Jeff Tigue on his five twenty podcast and Jeff
(02:00):
in the League for maybe I don't know, seven eight
years or so. He's a guard. He and his co
hosts engaged, and I would thought was very disrespectful. Magic
Johnson's slander. I want you to hear it and then
tell me what you think and see if I'm being
too sensitive for being upset about it. Magic Johnson survived
(02:23):
HIV and his son. That's crazy. His son is out
and gay and feminine projecting. Okay, I wouldn't say he's trans,
but everything he wears is feminine and as far as
I know, EJ goes by he So I don't think
(02:44):
he's trans. But it seems like if you're going to
discuss the top players in the NBA of all time,
I don't see how either his HIV status or his
son being gay is relevant to the conversation. I thought
it was just an unnecessary shot both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I first of all, I was an attempt at
bad humor. The HIV thing, if he would have presented
it as a more an educated statement wouldn't have bothered me,
because at the time in Magic Johnson was diagnosed with HIV,
it was a huge thing. It was terrifying to the
entire world. There wasn't enough education about it. People were
ostracized if they had it education. So he really was
(03:23):
the catalyst of really not only educating the world, but
specifically the black community because there was a level of yeah,
and we were like, that is that is a gay disease.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We're going to get more into that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, So he he really was the pivotal moment again
not only for the Black community, but for the world
and really educating themselves, finding out how it was transmitted
and ending the stigmatism for those who did have it
because he kind of proved I don't want to say
kind of he did. He did prove that if you
get proper treatment, this is something you could potentially live with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And part of that education, let me be explicit, I
think it needs to be said. In an African American community,
we were largely of the opinion that only gave people God, correct,
And so when Magic Johnson came out and said I
am HIV positive, it turned all that upside down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then for him to leave the league for a
while and then come back. So when him saying, oh,
he survived HIV, because again at the time when he
was diagnosed, it was a level of stigmatism, so him, yeah, exactly,
So he definitely survived that in a way where it
you know, he came back, and he came back in
a big way, and he now he really is Magic Johnson.
So that comment, if it had been phrased with a
(04:33):
level of intellect wouldn't have bothered me, But phrasing it
as a joke, I can see why that's offensive. At
the same token, you know, Jeff t he comes from
that same time where you kind of look at Magic
and he's a man's man, and so having a son
that isn't a man's man. When you have a perception
about a certain now that has nothing to do with magic,
let me be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This is your perception, this is what you think.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And so in your mind, he survived HIV at a
time when it was very stigmatized and a son who
is female presenting.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But you say, what would you say survived is if
it's on the same level to be put to be
juxtaposed with which HIV. Now, if you know the history
of Magic Johnson, his father was really really hard on him.
And I'll never know what the relationship was between Magic's
father and his grandson e J because I know that
had to have been a very difficult, very relationship. I
(05:26):
know he's passed on, but I don't know when he
was alive. So I think that would have been the
smarter conversation. Now, maybe I'm just expecting too much. I
thought we were past some of those homophobic jokes. Oh no,
I don't think we'll ever get past those kinds of things.
If Jeff Tigat said, look, it's amazing to me that
at the time Magic got was diagnosed with HIV that
he was able to salvage his career in any way,
(05:47):
I don't think he would have had a problem with
that statement, because again that's based in the time and
what it was. The son comment, I understand where he's
getting at because he's coming from a very slightly homophobic
and very man's kind of way. You just gotta leave
you survived, Yeah, you just you just what he's saying
is like, oh, when you're viewed in a certain way,
(06:08):
when you're viewed as this manly man, and then you
have this son who's the exact opposite of that, and
you can still have him in pictures and you can
still have him on the red carpet with you and
the people that he thought. He loves his But I
take issue with the words survived because he loves his
son as he should, survive.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
As he should.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But in Jeff Tigue's mind, it's not necessarily magic the
person surviving it. It's magic his image surviving it, but
he wasn't educated enough to articulate it that way. And
the reason why he wasn't educated enough is because a
father loving his son is never something you need to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay. Now, because of that quote unquote controversy, there were
some remarks by comedian Marlon Wayans who made these remarks
and I'm getting ready to play about ten months ago
with his city now with Shaquille O'Neil on Shaquille's podcast.
It speaks to the rapid home with phobia. But with
Marlon Wayans, doesn't he have a trans.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah try and has very been very open and very
proud about that. So I haven't heard this. I'm a
little I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Glad you're hearing this for the first time. This is
comedian Marlon Wayans ten months ago. It's now recirculating because
of those remarks that I just played. This is Marlon
Wayans with Shaquille O'Neal. That's why I don't do the
same jokes and stand up right, I retire the material.
I do something brand new. So you good, I got
my chat joke in you a magic got good? That's
what you said about magic. You couldn't give me to
(07:31):
say that. I just said he had the good aides,
and I said, what age you get where you lived
fifty years? I want those aids. He's become a billionaire
with aides. Give me those aids.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What kind of aids is this financial aids?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
What? This goes back to ignorance because Matgiew Johnson's never
had aids.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't find humor in that. And I'm not
someone who's saw uptight that you can't find the things
that you just can't talk about. I just I just
don't think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not funny. HIV and AIDS are two totally different things.
He didn't survive as he is living with HIV. There's
a difference. I had not heard. I'm shocked and bewildered, right,
because that's not even a good joke, And especially when
you have one of the reasons why we are so
educated now and about HIV is because of the gay camp.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Not any but not everyone is educated. But clearly I
do remember Magic Johnson going all around the world as
part of the White House Council and about the something
something some HIV education task force.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thought we were passed that that's in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
This joke was said in twenty.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Twenty two ago.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh dear, I don't have I know, I really got
a good one for Jeff. I got nothing from Marlin
except for he's he should probably retire from comedy if
that's the best that you can do is produce an
uneducated joke.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I thought Marlon Wayans was better and smarter than that.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I thought wrong, Clearly I did too.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I thought I thought he was one of those comedians
because you can take even sadness. Sometimes we've seen comedians
take tragedy and turn it into something that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Made laugh plus time.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, tragedy plus time. And if you have an educated joke,
you know he could have. I've heard comedians say, you know,
I want to have enough money where I can be
like magic, and if I do get sick, I can
afford all the best doctors. Because right now, you know,
I've heard jokes like that. It's more about the money
he has versus the disease that he has, right, And
so I've heard jokes like that, But this was just
in poor taste and the fact that I didn't even
(09:40):
hear it when it was said the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The only reason I found is because people say, like, oh,
if you heard this, you should have heard what Marlon
Wayans said. I said, golle.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He catching all the strays, all necessary.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And Magic Johnson has been, I would say, the beacon
of the perfect example of how you should represent yourself
and be an upstanding member of the community.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, he is part owner, if you guys don't know,
for of the La Sparks, and so I've had an
opportunity to meet him a couple of times. His smile
lights up a room. He never turns down a hug.
He's willing to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, how are you always When when I met him
in Rosco's chinga Waffles for some reason, he took a
liking to me and said, how are you, young man? Yes,
that's the way he is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And I saw him because I've seen him at basically
at the start of every season, and I'm like magic
and he goes, I don't remember your name, young lady,
but I remember your face and gave me a hug.
He is just the nicest man. He doesn't deserve to
be catching these random strays.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. We
told you about the Shannon sharp lawsuit. He was being
sued from like fifty million dollars from a former girlfriend
one third his age who's an OnlyFans model, and you know,
it basically ruined a lot of his career. We don't
know to what degree even yet, because he was let
go from ESPN as far as we know, has been back.
(10:59):
We don't know what his future is going to be
beyond this podcast. Well, we know that the suit was settled,
and we have an announcement on the other side about
that lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're going beyond the box
Score with Jackie Ray and no, I'm not going to
tell you what she said off air about our personal life.
It's X rated and it's gonna get us fired. And
Jacku Ray, not me. Jackie Ray, I thought better of
you now and I'm gonna beat you differently.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You gotta say the other part six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (11:33):
Kf I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. I
gotta tell you sometimes I don't understand. I just not
that I know everything sometings. I just don't understand Shannon Sharp,
public figure. I don't understand why he would involve himself. Yes,
(11:54):
he's a single man, but I don't know why he
would involve himself at as a fifty six year old
man with like a twenty year old woman or how
old sheese, she's just the side of teenager. I don't
understand it. And from both sides, both accounts it was
a relationship of some amount of time. There was an
(12:14):
allegation of forcible rape made by this woman who originally
was a Jane Doe. Just recounting the story, Shannon Sharp
took it upon himself to out her by name Gabriella Zuniga,
and also published text messages that they had exchanged to
somehow stave off her lawsuit that go as well as
(12:35):
he planned. As it turned out, it was announced of
the weekend that they reached some sort of settlement and
the lawsuit was thrown out with prejuice. It cannot be
filed again, So it's a done deal. And if you
were wondering if there was a settlement, yes, there was
a settlement, because Gabriella Zuniga said as much on social media,
(12:56):
and then also made the announcement get this, she is
quote retiring unquote from Only Fans. Getting back to what
I don't understand. How does someone retire from a site
where you just post pictures, usually of yourself in scantily
(13:17):
clad or sexually compromised positions or straight up nudity. From
what I understand, I don't know for it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
She just stops logging on. But how can you retire that?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That means like you have a job. You know, I
can understand if you said I'm retiring from being a
sex worker. That's a actual job, okay, But when you're
on OnlyFans, you don't punch a clock, you don't get
the benefits. No one's giving you a check for services rendered.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You're just posting pictures.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And if people want to buy your subscription then you
know you get a percentage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But retire I think it would have been better because
basically what she's saying is, hey, I met this goal.
You know I because I think when you go on
to Onlyfan, your into a very specific demographic who will
pay for sexual favors of some sort, in this case,
digital favors digital figures.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So this is what she is used to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the Shannon Sharp situation, I think I guess to
her discredit, that's probably what shot her in the foot
a little bit there too, because people are saying, hey,
you know, this is kind of what you do. You
can't really go now. I'm not saying that once a
woman says yes, she can never say no. That's not
what I'm saying. But I am saying the optics for
her looked bad. So what she's saying is, hey, you know,
I got on only fans for a very specific reason.
(14:32):
I was wanting to make money from off of men.
I no longer have to do that because I got
my cash cow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, So I'm thinking she had to have gotten eight figures.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, she didn't get she didn't get the fifty million,
but she probably got.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
At least five.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think she got eight figures. I think she got
at least ten.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I think she got ten.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, because when she makes announcements she's retiring from only fans.
Five million is not enough, right, I'm saying she got
at least ten.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she got all of Shannon's Kat Williams money because
he keep selling that he made a whole bunch of
money off of that, so she got a lot of
kat William's money.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think of it this way, and I learned this
from just following the Bill Cosby saga. A lot of
these high profile individuals, especially who are unmarried or potential targets,
they have extensive insurance policies to pay out the This
is not coming out of Shannon Sharp's.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Pocket, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, So if he paid let's say, fifteen to twenty million,
it's not coming out of his pocket. He's probably not
insurable going forward, but it's not coming out of his pocket,
So he would be more inclined to settle as opposed
to a long protracted court battle, discovery all the text
messages and pictures and laisons and possibly other women coming forward.
If Shannon Sharp did anything right with respect to Diddy,
(15:46):
is he paid the accuser off early, as opposed to
waiting years and having it it blow up in his
face in the way that Diddy did he waited to
pay off Cassie. If he paid off Cassie earlier, sooner
you heard about it, and no one else would have
come forward and her lawsuit would have never happened. Honestly,
you know the other lawsuits definitely would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think that what I find the most perplexing about
this entire situation is you have men in power that
consistently go for younger women who are just normal women
that are probably in this situation to try to take
advantage of a cash cow, when there are literally women
who do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
There are things well this, They say, you don't pay
a woman, you pay her to leave. Fact, there are
things that I can think are true of most men.
And I'm not going to ask Twala or Daniel or Mark.
They're just going to silently agree with me. Part of
the reason why you have men of power or wealth
going after these young women is about control. Part of
(16:48):
the reason why they're attracted to him is because the
woman needs the money from the man and is willing
to enter into this relationship with this man because of
his power, his wealth, his fame and can do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But doesn't a sex worker provide at least the illusion
of that she still needs your money. She's still going
to try to please you as best that she can
and give you another. Professionals at that point, they can
give you an illusion of power, but.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You don't control that person in the way of let's
say if Shannon Sharp is paying for her rent, is
paid her carnal, helped her parents with you know, building
a new deck at their house, whatever, all that has happened.
In many instances, there's a degree of control because if
you looked at the text messages and the lawsuit, it
was about control, doing this, not doing this, go here,
(17:33):
can't go there, right, It's all about control, and you
don't have that over a quote unquote sex worker who
you're paying to leave. You're just paying for the physical act.
There was a degree of interaction beyond that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So what you're saying is instead of he should just
pay for therapy among other things, that's what he's going
as far as paying. Because when you reach and I've
heard that before, people say, oh, it's about power, it's
about power, But you've already reached a point of power.
And if you need a young basically child at this point,
because I believe he has a daughter around the same age,
around about like that's if something doesn't happen in your
(18:07):
mind that says, this is the same age as my daughter.
I need to have power over someone that could literally
be my child. There's something psychologically wrong with you. You
need to talk to somebody about that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, there is a psychological misfire here, and I can't
diagnose him from a distance. I'm not a doctor, but
I know that if you're fifty six and you want
to enter into a relationship, We're not even talking about
a sex worker relationship. We're talking about a bona fide
relationship where you go out and you go out to dinner,
and you spend time together and that person is borderline
(18:36):
young enough to be your granddaughter. Borderline. Yeah, there's something
not quite right with you. There's something that's emotionally and
I would say mentally deficient. It's not about being of
the age of majority where you can legally do this.
This is not about legally versus illegally. This is about
something that is deficient in you as a man, where
(18:57):
you think that that poet teenager can provide something that
you need.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I read an article yesterday I forget was one of
the girly magazines that said that women that are typically
walking in their own power versus in their career taking
care of themselves, they are not as attractive to power
for men. They do powerful men do not like women
who can be like yeah, no, you can kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, they don't like I would.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Agree that because men of power or fame want to
wield that, if you will, in all forms of their life.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So it's not about an emotional connection.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Not really. Well, part of that emotional connection is connected
to the powerful or having power.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Over something, but not love, y'all, not love.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Jackie Ray. We're getting ready to take it to the
hallway because people want us to talk about this explicitly
in the hallway. So Daniel, we're taking it to the hallway.
We're taking it to the hall.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes, can I tell people really quick?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know. I'm doing a news show every Monday, Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday on TikTok now ten thirty eight am
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Speaker 1 (20:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sorry, hey, y'all, I I got him into some stuff
k IF I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We just had some misunderstandings in the studio during the break.
I want to know what happened because I.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Know you don't. No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'll just I'll just say this so people know that
I'm not making this stuff. I'm not going to tell
the whole story. Jackie Jackie Ray when she came over
to Chateau Lemo brought a male friend, a friend friend friend,
and during the break, Jackie was telling us good Evening,
Jackie Ray, Good Evening, why they're not more than friends
(00:40):
and and got to be very It was a heartfelt
story and then it turned dark.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
But I did not turn it there. She's there. No,
I just told you how he was going to move on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're just gonna move on because I can't talk about
what you said. It's it's rated X and I don't
feel comfortable toime. We're gonna get ready to catch a
human resources case up in here, though. We're just going
to talk about sports in the Intersection with Society, Magic
Johnson is my favorite Laker of all time, bar none,
It's not close. I think he is one of the
(01:15):
most transformational players in the history of the NBA, even
more so than Larry Bird, even though they're put together.
I know that's the biased comment because I'm a Laker fan,
but I don't have time for all that. In other words,
any type of Magic Johnson's slander, I have a problem, right,
so I'm super sensitive to that. But I've noticed lately
he's been catching strays, as they say, and he's not
(01:38):
even in the public discourse. People just keep want to
insert himself. Part of it is because Bleacher Report had
a list of the top one hundred players of all
time NBA players, and Magic on the list was number four.
The new generation thinks us too high. The older generation
thinks is just right. But he's been a topic of
conversation Jeff Tigue on his five twenty podcast and Jeff
(02:00):
in the League for maybe I don't know, seven eight
years or so. He's a guard. He and his co
hosts engaged, and I would thought was very disrespectful. Magic
Johnson's slander. I want you to hear it and then
tell me what you think and see if I'm being
too sensitive for being upset about it. Magic Johnson survived
(02:23):
HIV and his son. That's crazy. His son is out
and gay and feminine projecting. Okay, I wouldn't say he's trans,
but everything he wears is feminine and as far as
I know, EJ goes by he So I don't think
(02:44):
he's trans. But it seems like if you're going to
discuss the top players in the NBA of all time,
I don't see how either his HIV status or his
son being gay is relevant to the conversation. I thought
it was just an unnecessary shot both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I first of all, I was an attempt at
bad humor. The HIV thing, if he would have presented
it as a more an educated statement wouldn't have bothered me,
because at the time in Magic Johnson was diagnosed with HIV,
it was a huge thing. It was terrifying to the
entire world. There wasn't enough education about it. People were
ostracized if they had it education. So he really was
(03:23):
the catalyst of really not only educating the world, but
specifically the black community because there was a level of yeah,
and we were like, that is that is a gay disease.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We're going to get more into that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, So he he really was the pivotal moment again
not only for the Black community, but for the world
and really educating themselves, finding out how it was transmitted
and ending the stigmatism for those who did have it
because he kind of proved I don't want to say
kind of he did. He did prove that if you
get proper treatment, this is something you could potentially live with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And part of that education, let me be explicit, I
think it needs to be said. In an African American community,
we were largely of the opinion that only gave people God, correct,
And so when Magic Johnson came out and said I
am HIV positive, it turned all that upside down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then for him to leave the league for a
while and then come back. So when him saying, oh,
he survived HIV, because again at the time when he
was diagnosed, it was a level of stigmatism, so him, yeah, exactly,
So he definitely survived that in a way where it
you know, he came back, and he came back in
a big way, and he now he really is Magic Johnson.
So that comment, if it had been phrased with a
(04:33):
level of intellect wouldn't have bothered me, But phrasing it
as a joke, I can see why that's offensive. At
the same token, you know, Jeff t he comes from
that same time where you kind of look at Magic
and he's a man's man, and so having a son
that isn't a man's man. When you have a perception
about a certain now that has nothing to do with magic,
let me be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This is your perception, this is what you think.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And so in your mind, he survived HIV at a
time when it was very stigmatized and a son who
is female presenting.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But you say, what would you say survived is if
it's on the same level to be put to be
juxtaposed with which HIV. Now, if you know the history
of Magic Johnson, his father was really really hard on him.
And I'll never know what the relationship was between Magic's
father and his grandson e J because I know that
had to have been a very difficult, very relationship. I
(05:26):
know he's passed on, but I don't know when he
was alive. So I think that would have been the
smarter conversation. Now, maybe I'm just expecting too much. I
thought we were past some of those homophobic jokes. Oh no,
I don't think we'll ever get past those kinds of things.
If Jeff Tigat said, look, it's amazing to me that
at the time Magic got was diagnosed with HIV that
he was able to salvage his career in any way,
(05:47):
I don't think he would have had a problem with
that statement, because again that's based in the time and
what it was. The son comment, I understand where he's
getting at because he's coming from a very slightly homophobic
and very man's kind of way. You just gotta leave
you survived, Yeah, you just you just what he's saying
is like, oh, when you're viewed in a certain way,
(06:08):
when you're viewed as this manly man, and then you
have this son who's the exact opposite of that, and
you can still have him in pictures and you can
still have him on the red carpet with you and
the people that he thought. He loves his But I
take issue with the words survived because he loves his
son as he should, survive.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
As he should.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But in Jeff Tigue's mind, it's not necessarily magic the
person surviving it. It's magic his image surviving it, but
he wasn't educated enough to articulate it that way. And
the reason why he wasn't educated enough is because a
father loving his son is never something you need to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay. Now, because of that quote unquote controversy, there were
some remarks by comedian Marlon Wayans who made these remarks
and I'm getting ready to play about ten months ago
with his city now with Shaquille O'Neil on Shaquille's podcast.
It speaks to the rapid home with phobia. But with
Marlon Wayans, doesn't he have a trans.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah try and has very been very open and very
proud about that. So I haven't heard this. I'm a
little I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Glad you're hearing this for the first time. This is
comedian Marlon Wayans ten months ago. It's now recirculating because
of those remarks that I just played. This is Marlon
Wayans with Shaquille O'Neal. That's why I don't do the
same jokes and stand up right, I retire the material.
I do something brand new. So you good, I got
my chat joke in you a magic got good? That's
what you said about magic. You couldn't give me to
(07:31):
say that. I just said he had the good aides,
and I said, what age you get where you lived
fifty years? I want those aids. He's become a billionaire
with aides. Give me those aids.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What kind of aids is this financial aids?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
What? This goes back to ignorance because Matgiew Johnson's never
had aids.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't find humor in that. And I'm not
someone who's saw uptight that you can't find the things
that you just can't talk about. I just I just
don't think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not funny. HIV and AIDS are two totally different things.
He didn't survive as he is living with HIV. There's
a difference. I had not heard. I'm shocked and bewildered, right,
because that's not even a good joke, And especially when
you have one of the reasons why we are so
educated now and about HIV is because of the gay camp.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Not any but not everyone is educated. But clearly I
do remember Magic Johnson going all around the world as
part of the White House Council and about the something
something some HIV education task force.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thought we were passed that that's in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
This joke was said in twenty.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Twenty two ago.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh dear, I don't have I know, I really got
a good one for Jeff. I got nothing from Marlin
except for he's he should probably retire from comedy if
that's the best that you can do is produce an
uneducated joke.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I thought Marlon Wayans was better and smarter than that.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I thought wrong, Clearly I did too.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I thought I thought he was one of those comedians
because you can take even sadness. Sometimes we've seen comedians
take tragedy and turn it into something that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Made laugh plus time.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, tragedy plus time. And if you have an educated joke,
you know he could have. I've heard comedians say, you know,
I want to have enough money where I can be
like magic, and if I do get sick, I can
afford all the best doctors. Because right now, you know,
I've heard jokes like that. It's more about the money
he has versus the disease that he has, right, And
so I've heard jokes like that, But this was just
in poor taste and the fact that I didn't even
(09:40):
hear it when it was said the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The only reason I found is because people say, like, oh,
if you heard this, you should have heard what Marlon
Wayans said. I said, golle.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He catching all the strays, all necessary.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And Magic Johnson has been, I would say, the beacon
of the perfect example of how you should represent yourself
and be an upstanding member of the community.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, he is part owner, if you guys don't know,
for of the La Sparks, and so I've had an
opportunity to meet him a couple of times. His smile
lights up a room. He never turns down a hug.
He's willing to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, how are you always When when I met him
in Rosco's chinga Waffles for some reason, he took a
liking to me and said, how are you, young man? Yes,
that's the way he is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And I saw him because I've seen him at basically
at the start of every season, and I'm like magic
and he goes, I don't remember your name, young lady,
but I remember your face and gave me a hug.
He is just the nicest man. He doesn't deserve to
be catching these random strays.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. We
told you about the Shannon sharp lawsuit. He was being
sued from like fifty million dollars from a former girlfriend
one third his age who's an OnlyFans model, and you know,
it basically ruined a lot of his career. We don't
know to what degree even yet, because he was let
go from ESPN as far as we know, has been back.
(10:59):
We don't know what his future is going to be
beyond this podcast. Well, we know that the suit was settled,
and we have an announcement on the other side about
that lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're going beyond the box
Score with Jackie Ray and no, I'm not going to
tell you what she said off air about our personal life.
It's X rated and it's gonna get us fired. And
Jacku Ray, not me. Jackie Ray, I thought better of
you now and I'm gonna beat you differently.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You gotta say the other part six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Kf I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. I
gotta tell you sometimes I don't understand. I just not
that I know everything sometings. I just don't understand Shannon Sharp,
public figure. I don't understand why he would involve himself. Yes,
(11:54):
he's a single man, but I don't know why he
would involve himself at as a fifty six year old
man with like a twenty year old woman or how
old sheese, she's just the side of teenager. I don't
understand it. And from both sides, both accounts it was
a relationship of some amount of time. There was an
(12:14):
allegation of forcible rape made by this woman who originally
was a Jane Doe. Just recounting the story, Shannon Sharp
took it upon himself to out her by name Gabriella Zuniga,
and also published text messages that they had exchanged to
somehow stave off her lawsuit that go as well as
(12:35):
he planned. As it turned out, it was announced of
the weekend that they reached some sort of settlement and
the lawsuit was thrown out with prejuice. It cannot be
filed again, So it's a done deal. And if you
were wondering if there was a settlement, yes, there was
a settlement, because Gabriella Zuniga said as much on social media,
(12:56):
and then also made the announcement get this, she is
quote retiring unquote from Only Fans. Getting back to what
I don't understand. How does someone retire from a site
where you just post pictures, usually of yourself in scantily
(13:17):
clad or sexually compromised positions or straight up nudity. From
what I understand, I don't know for it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
She just stops logging on. But how can you retire that?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That means like you have a job. You know, I
can understand if you said I'm retiring from being a
sex worker. That's a actual job, okay, But when you're
on OnlyFans, you don't punch a clock, you don't get
the benefits. No one's giving you a check for services rendered.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
You're just posting pictures.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And if people want to buy your subscription then you
know you get a percentage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But retire I think it would have been better because
basically what she's saying is, hey, I met this goal.
You know I because I think when you go on
to Onlyfan, your into a very specific demographic who will
pay for sexual favors of some sort, in this case,
digital favors digital figures.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So this is what she is used to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the Shannon Sharp situation, I think I guess to
her discredit, that's probably what shot her in the foot
a little bit there too, because people are saying, hey,
you know, this is kind of what you do. You
can't really go now. I'm not saying that once a
woman says yes, she can never say no. That's not
what I'm saying. But I am saying the optics for
her looked bad. So what she's saying is, hey, you know,
I got on only fans for a very specific reason.
(14:32):
I was wanting to make money from off of men.
I no longer have to do that because I got
my cash cow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, So I'm thinking she had to have gotten eight figures.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, she didn't get she didn't get the fifty million,
but she probably got.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
At least five.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think she got eight figures. I think she got
at least ten.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I think she got ten.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, because when she makes announcements she's retiring from only fans.
Five million is not enough, right, I'm saying she got
at least ten.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she got all of Shannon's Kat Williams money because
he keep selling that he made a whole bunch of
money off of that, so she got a lot of
kat William's money.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think of it this way, and I learned this
from just following the Bill Cosby saga. A lot of
these high profile individuals, especially who are unmarried or potential targets,
they have extensive insurance policies to pay out the This
is not coming out of Shannon Sharp's.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Pocket, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, So if he paid let's say, fifteen to twenty million,
it's not coming out of his pocket. He's probably not
insurable going forward, but it's not coming out of his pocket,
So he would be more inclined to settle as opposed
to a long protracted court battle, discovery all the text
messages and pictures and laisons and possibly other women coming forward.
If Shannon Sharp did anything right with respect to Diddy,
(15:46):
is he paid the accuser off early, as opposed to
waiting years and having it it blow up in his
face in the way that Diddy did he waited to
pay off Cassie. If he paid off Cassie earlier, sooner
you heard about it, and no one else would have
come forward and her lawsuit would have never happened. Honestly,
you know the other lawsuits definitely would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think that what I find the most perplexing about
this entire situation is you have men in power that
consistently go for younger women who are just normal women
that are probably in this situation to try to take
advantage of a cash cow, when there are literally women
who do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
There are things well this, They say, you don't pay
a woman, you pay her to leave. Fact, there are
things that I can think are true of most men.
And I'm not going to ask Twala or Daniel or Mark.
They're just going to silently agree with me. Part of
the reason why you have men of power or wealth
going after these young women is about control. Part of
(16:48):
the reason why they're attracted to him is because the
woman needs the money from the man and is willing
to enter into this relationship with this man because of
his power, his wealth, his fame and can do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But doesn't a sex worker provide at least the illusion
of that she still needs your money. She's still going
to try to please you as best that she can
and give you another. Professionals at that point, they can
give you an illusion of power, but.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You don't control that person in the way of let's
say if Shannon Sharp is paying for her rent, is
paid her carnal, helped her parents with you know, building
a new deck at their house, whatever, all that has happened.
In many instances, there's a degree of control because if
you looked at the text messages and the lawsuit, it
was about control, doing this, not doing this, go here,
(17:33):
can't go there, right, It's all about control, and you
don't have that over a quote unquote sex worker who
you're paying to leave. You're just paying for the physical act.
There was a degree of interaction beyond that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So what you're saying is instead of he should just
pay for therapy among other things, that's what he's going
as far as paying. Because when you reach and I've
heard that before, people say, oh, it's about power, it's
about power, But you've already reached a point of power.
And if you need a young basically child at this point,
because I believe he has a daughter around the same age,
around about like that's if something doesn't happen in your
(18:07):
mind that says, this is the same age as my daughter.
I need to have power over someone that could literally
be my child. There's something psychologically wrong with you. You
need to talk to somebody about that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, there is a psychological misfire here, and I can't
diagnose him from a distance. I'm not a doctor, but
I know that if you're fifty six and you want
to enter into a relationship, We're not even talking about
a sex worker relationship. We're talking about a bona fide
relationship where you go out and you go out to dinner,
and you spend time together and that person is borderline
(18:36):
young enough to be your granddaughter. Borderline. Yeah, there's something
not quite right with you. There's something that's emotionally and
I would say mentally deficient. It's not about being of
the age of majority where you can legally do this.
This is not about legally versus illegally. This is about
something that is deficient in you as a man, where
(18:57):
you think that that poet teenager can provide something that
you need.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I read an article yesterday I forget was one of
the girly magazines that said that women that are typically
walking in their own power versus in their career taking
care of themselves, they are not as attractive to power
for men. They do powerful men do not like women
who can be like yeah, no, you can kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, they don't like I would.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Agree that because men of power or fame want to
wield that, if you will, in all forms of their life.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So it's not about an emotional connection.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Not really. Well, part of that emotional connection is connected
to the powerful or having power.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Over something, but not love, y'all, not love.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Jackie Ray. We're getting ready to take it to the
hallway because people want us to talk about this explicitly
in the hallway. So Daniel, we're taking it to the hallway.
We're taking it to the hall.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes, can I tell people really quick?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know. I'm doing a news show every Monday, Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday on TikTok now ten thirty eight am
to twelve thirty pm, So make sure you tap in
with me at Jackie Bay TV.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
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