December 3, 2024 • 22 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth conversation with Actor Jonah Wharton (Castle, Southland, Bones, NCIS, The Rookie), who joins the program to discuss his role on ‘NCIS: Origins’ in addition to previewing the season finale of the hit Paramount+ espionage thriller ‘Lioness,’ wherein Wharton portrays ‘Tex;’ the "tech specialist in charge of surveillance on the Special Activities Division operatives on the QRF Team led by Joe (Zoe Saldaña)" - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I AM six forty.
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This is born got of Me mission focus text, Oh,
I'm focused.
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The Saudi Royal Marriya KUWAITI national. What do you think
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I think it makes no freaking sense?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
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to your car, you will get in, you will drive away.
You will not look back in the direction of the house.
Do you understand?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Walk.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and right now you can
see actor Jonah Wharton, who you're just listening to in
that clip as a serious series regular text on my
favorite show Barnun Lioness on Paramount Plus and its season
finale is coming up this Sunday, December eighth, And you
can also find Jonah Wharton on the upcoming episode and
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season finale of n CIS Origins, which is Wednesday, December fourth.
That episode is titled Vivo or Mueto Life or Death.
The very busy Jonah Wharton joins me now here in
the KFI studio, john Us, Good to see you man,
Thank you for coming out tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh thanks for having me. That was cool listening Todent
brub me back to season one and you write a
lot of f BOMs.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
That's my kind of show. And I've seen your work
over the years. You are a chameleon. I'll see you
one way in one show, and you're very You're presented
very differently another way. And I wonder if if you're
acting is derivative of your life growing up. The reason
why I say this because I'm quite sure you met
(02:07):
some very colorful people along the way.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Do I have this right?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
You were growing up in and around San Francisco in
a houseboat community of bohemian squatters.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
YEP, that's right. It sounds about right from Salcelito, the
waterfront right there. It's an interesting, interesting community.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But when I if I just listen to your voice,
the tambour and the cadence, I would swear you from
my Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
You know, I don't know, like I'm not the first
person to say that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Not the first person I've argued with my wife actually
from Texas, note from the Bay Area. I've just maybe
just got a lot of different influences influence in my
speech and who knows.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And it's interesting because you are playing someone whose name
texts now, so it's not lost on me the irony.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But going back to that houseboat community of bohemians.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
By the way, not from Texas, Texas, from New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
New Jersey, right, So yeah, it's weird, but we're going
real deep in the show, but we will will do
that just a second. But take me back to this
houseboat community of bohemian squatters.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
What does that mean, what does that look like? What
does that sound like?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, my mom bought her first home there and it's
a seventies She bought it first seventy dollars. Basically, the
house folts out there, you can people found a loophole
where you could not have to pay rent because the
water is unincorporated, so it's in Saucelito. But once you're
on the water, you're outside of the city limits and
there's no way they can stop you. So people bought boats,
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put anchors down and just built up a community just
floating on the water there basically to avoid paying rent.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Okay, that's home for you, But what is your day
to day life like? How are you going to school?
How are you interacting with other people? What's that like?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It wasn't that different. We just walk off the boat,
walk on the land, and I had walked to school.
I'd have to walk about a mile to school when
I was you know, middle school and all that up
with other kids in the area along the way and
would walk to school, and yeah, it was it wasn't
as noticeable to me being there. It was just, you know,
when I go home, maybe get people will talk about
me living on the boat.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's like what kids in the way that they may
tease other people. What were they saying? How did they
view your lifestyle compared to their lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was different. It was definitely different ground. It's just
weird to other people. So I get teased, don't rock
the boat. So growing up, what were the dreams? What
would the aspirations growing up? I wanted to play ball, basketball.
I was a basketball player. I had never even considered
acting or going into this world. I was just obsessed
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with basketball, an athlete, but could you ball? Yes, very confidently.
That's what That's what I do. I still do, still do, right,
I still play. I still play. Yeah, I got I
got hurt in high school. You know, I wouldn't have
blown out my ankle the league, you know, you know
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how it goes.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
But also there's an La portion to your story which
is connected to acting. What brought you to La, When
did you get to La and what happened when you
got here.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I came to La on a whim in two thousand
and two. I'd done a year of community college. I
went to the small community college and the central Coast
to play basketball. That wasn't working out. I was like,
let me get the hell out of this small tap
It was just terror was boring. So I was like,
what's the next thing I could do. Let me come
to LA for a year and just hang out. So,
just on a whim to do something different, I moved
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down to LA and just started life here in LA
and still had no idea that acting was going to
be in your future, no idea. No. I even worked
at a restaurant and it was Norms on los Aye.
Everybody knows, Yeah, And that was the first job I
had in LA. I was just trying to figure out
how to get enough money to pay rent and get by.
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And I remember there was a couple of waitresses there
working and they were aspiring actresses, and I thought it
was hilarious because I thought that was a stereotype that
wasn't really true. Oh it's very true. Oh this is
a real thing. People really come here to do it.
It's ridiculous. It didn't even and even after that, it
was in for another like five or six years that
I really got into it.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I question the next question I'm asking, respectfully, if only
because I wonder did the people that you were working with,
those waitresses, did they ever make it beyond that?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I didn't work there for long. Well, I think with
this my teen and I worked there for about a month.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But it's truly one in a million.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
You think of the number of the people who've moved
to LA who have this dream and fantasy and it's
never realized.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So what was the impetus to try acting?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You heard it from your co workers, as it were,
What made you think that, well, maybe I should try this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It was a slow process, I think with the thing
That really got me started is I got lucky. I
got a commercial. I was stating a girl at the time.
He took me up with their commercial agent. I went
out and I booked a Burger King commercial and I
was like, oh, this is an easy way to make money.
Now to me, I didn't I wasn't acting yet, but
it got me in SAG and you just.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Went out one audition and you got a commercial just
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
A couple a couple. I didn't know what I was doing.
It wasn't really, that wasn't acting. I just had to.
I walked in there and pretended I was eating a whopper,
and next thing that night they're like, hey, you come
eat a whopper in this commercial?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And was it one of those national deals? Yeah? Yeah,
oh that paid well.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
When I got that cause I was broken.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They're like, oh, you're gonna get thirty forty fifty thousand
dollars out of this. I'm like, well, this is a
good career.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
How much work was that one commercial?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Four or five hours?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
About that?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I auditioned and I worked the same day I went out.
I looked at there like, hey, I think somebody dropped
out or you know who knows the story. But they
needed me there that night, so I went in at
nine pm. I was out by three am.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I understand back in the day especially, it was much
more difficult to get your SAG card, to be able
to get some lines and be able to be authentic
in that way.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
What was your next step from there?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Then I just hung around waiting for things to happen,
and nothing did. So it wasn't this was two thousand
and six, two thousand and five or six. Yeah, and
but it planned the seed And then I was like,
I want to act, but I had never taken a class.
I didn't know anything about the craft. And then I
finally ended up just going to a few classes trying
to figure out what this thing is about.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Went to a few classes, booked a few commercials in
the rent.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I didn't book a few.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wasn't booking.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I got one.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I wanted the seed, and that just planted the seed.
And once I found a good place, I was like, oh,
this is something you can actually work on and practice
and get good at. It's not just you know. I
Once I learned and to respect the craft, because I
had no respect for acting, I was like that seems
easy enough. You just go up there say some words,
and I could do that. And then once I found
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a class that really taught me like okay, this is
somebody can work at and we got into it and.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Were getting ready to go to first commercial break.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
What was that moment where you booked the job where
you said I might be able to do this as
a career.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think it was. It wasn't even a job they
gave me that. It was being in classes and seeing like, okay,
I've got like a little natural talent for this. And
then I just got obsessed. I have like a one
track mind, so I just got obsessed with the craft
and it was just that competitive nature. Yeah, totally, totally.
Once I lock in, I'm like that's it. So then
I just decide I'm going.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
To do it. Oh you like playing defense?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, oh locked you got that.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I played ball. I'm a little bit older than you,
but I played ball back in the day. Oh yeah,
I'm too old to play now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, you're you're right on. I take I love just
ruining people's days getting the man. I don't look like
I could do you up.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
But look, if you watch Lioness and see his character text.
That's who he is. He ruins people's day. That's the
only way I can describe it. I don't want to
give it away.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I like that. No, you look the college kids, Yeah,
you know in the house. Yeah, I don't want to
give it away. But real nice.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You could have done worse to them, exactly, Yeah, you
could have done worse if you're just tuning in right now.
My guest in the studio is actor Jonah Wharton. He's
a series regular ONLINEUS. He plays text and you'll be
able to find him in the season finale coming up
on this Sunday, December eighth, and you also find him
on the upcoming episode of the season finale of n
CIS origins on Wednesday, December fourth. We'll have more with
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Jonah Wharton just a moment. It is Later with mo
Kelly k if I AM six forty Live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
On k.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Six Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I gotta
correct myself. I made a mistake. We're talking right now
with actor Jonah Wharton, who's a series regular on Lions
and also he's gonna be on n CIS Origins. Not
on Wednesday, but tonight at ten o'clock. He's gonna leave
the studio and run home and watch himself on n
CIS Origins.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Am I wrong? Johnah?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You got it. It's interesting because I pull it up
on my phone.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I talk to a lot of actors and actresses, and
some are adamant they don't want to watch themselves, and
others are adamant they have to see everything they do.
I know in what I do, I listen to everything
I want to do that I do because I want
to what they call air check myself, see what I
did wrong, see what I can improve on, try to
get better. But some people don't like seeing themselves. Is
(11:28):
that a phenomenon that you've seen in this business?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh? Absolutely, It's just it's an individual. I know a
lot of people are like, yeah, I can't watch it.
It's just too uncomfortable. I like to watch it, especially
when it's good. If it's not good, then I'm like,
then it's tough.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Tell me tonight n CIS Origins. What's going down.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm not sure what I can give away.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Oh you don't want to give away, but.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There's a priest is killed and I got to figure out, Oh,
will we got here? Please do not reveal reveal that. Okay, okay, no,
a priest is coude. I can say that NCS or
it's interesting. It's it takes place in the nineties, so
it's an origin story of Gibbs, the star Mark.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Roy Jefro Gibbs.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I'm all up in NCS said, let me just sorry,
I got to interrupt you when they announced n CIS origins.
It was a prequel dating way back in the nineteen nineties.
I think, damn, I feel attacked because I remember the
nineteen nineties. I was coming out of college in the
nineteen nineties, and they want to make because jeth throw
Gibbs is is the older elder statesman of n CIS
(12:33):
and we're taking him back to his origin. It's like, no,
he's older than me, or at least so I thought.
But I'm sorry, go ahead. It's a period piece. I
know the nineties. It's the nineties period piece. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So it's it's the show is just letting you know
how all those characters, specifically Gibbs turned into who they
are now or in NCIS, So it's a it's a
little different take on that. It's just the I mean,
the name says it's the origin of that, so it's
just following that whole storyline how he got there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Did you have any professional connection to the NCIS universe
prior to doing this?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I had done. Yes, I've been on NCISLA and that's
what I all NCIS, so yeah, I've been in that world.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh, different characters, different world, different characters.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
But this still was a degree of familiarity with what
it represents and why it's so damn popular and it
has these sprawling franchises.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I loved it. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was always a fan of the original, more so
than NCIS Los Angeles, maybe because I spent the most
time with it. But with you, how much do your
personal watching habits impact either how your audition or your preparation.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Honestly, not much at all. I don't watch much. I
watch life, so I'm just trying to bring real life
to whatever I do. I know I've had this discussion
with actors and stuff about the tone of different shows.
I personally don't worry about that. I'm just gonna make
it real based on I read the script and I
see the world I'm going into based on that, and
my job is to just make it natural and real.
And I think they can fit in in anything.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
All right, take me through this this week. All right?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Are you giving the script on Monday and you have
a table read on Tuesday and you're blocking on Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
How does that go?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It just depends online us. I had months and months
and months to prepare. I'm I'm talking to seals and
Tier one operators and really like getting into this world.
We're doing training, weapons training, months of training, just physical
training just to get that down. So I had all
the time in the world to research and know exactly
the world I'm going into. And then for n CIS,
(14:42):
I had a day. Hey you're playing a priest. I'll
be playing a priest. I could say that in two days.
So in two days, so you just got to Yeah, Google,
YouTube is my friend, and relying on other people.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You know we're there.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm just like, hey, I can only do so much
in two days as far as research goes.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You mentioned Lions. I love that show. I've seen every episode.
Can't wait for the season finale, which is coming up
on Sunday the eighth.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It takes place all around the world.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's about a special ops team and it's led by
Zoe Saldana and you are part of that team. You
mentioned your training and preparation for that role. Is it
taking you around the world like the show presents itself.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Absolutely? Yeah. We shot the first season we shot we
started in Baltimore, but.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That's not around the world, well.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Three thousand miles from here.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yes, sure.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We started in Baltimore for the you know, the stuff
in Baltimore, DC area. Then the storyline went to Majorca, Spain,
so we actually got to go there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
How long were you in Biorca?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Six weeks? Oh, you have a horrible job. Yeah, you know,
somebody's got to do it right. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Where else because.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then after Myorca was working hard. It is very
very hard work and Myorca after that, After that we
went to Morocco. So is it season one that was
supposed to be Iraq?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yes, run that.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We shot that in Morocco.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
It is.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Morocco is as gorgeous as I.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Think it is.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, Morocco, It's it's amazing, it's beautiful. I didn't get
as much of a chance to see Morocco because I
was working every day that I was there Myorca. I
had a lot more time over here there six weeks
I'm shooting, I had explored the whole island. That place
is the most beautiful place I've been. Morocco's pretty special too.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I often talk about Lionis on this show. I am
an uber fan of all things Taylor shared it. He's
one of those people who not only creates great shows.
You want to talk about Yellowstone or Landman, which I'm
into now, and you'll see some of the same actors
overlapping and crossing into the different universes. But I also
see him online in this What is it like having
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the series creator working alongside you as an actor in
an episode or two?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's great. I mean it just he created the whole thing.
You just trust his vision. You know what he knows
what he's doing, he knows what he wants. So when
he's working and directing, it's just we move so quick.
He knows exactly the once. There's no there's no wasted anything,
uh huh. And I love it. He just wants it
to be real. I think that's why he picked me.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
His just kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Hate that that mentality of like, hey, just he's created
this whole world, these amazing scripts. It's ridiculously talented as
a writer. So it's just our job to come in
there and not mess it up.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Basically, you may not see his writing process, but I'm
thinking that how does he have the time to write,
to edit, to direct, and also perform be in scenes?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Not just one.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Show, but I don't know, four or five shows you
talk about Tulsa King and all the other shows that
he's working on simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I have no idea. It's crazy. That is insane. I
don't know how he does it. Maybe he doesn't sleep
or or what, but he does it. He writes every
single episode, the whole thing, the entire season is all him.
Then he jumps off to Yellowstone and nineteen twenty three
and all these other things. And I don't know. I
wish I could tell you. I have no idea. He's superhuman.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But is he the person who's guiding all the auditions? Yes,
he picks everyone, but he is he that person who's
there from beginning to end of the audition process.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I think everybody has a different story. My story getting
on there is I just I sent in a tape
and next thing, you know, had an offer. It was
it was just that was It was no. I didn't test,
I didn't go meet anybody. I didn't even talk to
I didn't talk to anyone in person. Until I got
to Baltimore. I didn't know it was real, and I
was like, is this really happening? And I showed up
there and ended up being true. But I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Let me ask you this because when we started our
conversation before we get ready to close it, we start
a conversation with a clip, and in that clip you
may not have recognized the voice if you're listening right now,
but you had the.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Scene with Nicole Kidman. Yeah, and you have these other actors.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You have Morgan Freeman walking around, Michael Kelly, and you
obviously have Zoe Saldania.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
What is that like? What is that experience like?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Because you're a person who, like me, can be a
fan of actors and their performances.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What's it like then working with them?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's just exciting. It's exciting. You know, it's just a
dream come true to be there. Then I just show
up and it's just like acting with anybody else on
a certain level, you just so up and you go
do your thing. It's not because you know what I mean,
but I mean acting with great actors actually makes it
so much easier because when they're with you, they're in it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It just it.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's really a team sport. So the better the actor
you're in a scene with, the easier it is for me.
So just kind of you just react and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Go with it.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So I have one more question, and you know, no
one's listening, and not even your wife who sitting right
next to you, so don't mind her.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, what's it like doing a scene with Nicole Kidman? Oh,
she's the most fun. She's the most fun. She's she's
in it. Okay, I don't know, No, not like that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Don't get in trouble, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's okay now. She she is just the most fun.
She's doing something different on every take. She's in it
before the camera starts rolling. My first, the first time
I think the scene your plan is the first time
I did a scene with her, and.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I remember that scene well, yeah, because you getting ready
to shoot her because you didn't know who it was rolling.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Up right, right. And the funny thing is I had
met her the day before. That was the first time
I met her. And then she you know, we're ready
to do the scene, and you know, she's very fresh,
she's so sweet and nice. So I met her the
day before. So I came up there today we're about
to do our scene, like, hey, how are you? And
she was like pissed off. I was like, oh, in character,
pissed off in character passed off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
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mean I wasn't sure for a second either, but then
I was like, oh, I got it. I got it.
She was in it. So I'm like, let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I need to get you out of this studio.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
And I mean this respectfully because you're getting ready to
come up on NCIS origins in about thirty minutes. Congratulations
to you Jonah Wharton on that, and also be sure
to check out Lyning this season three finale this Sunday,
December eighth.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Season two, Oh, season two, I'm just messing up stuff.
It's all running together in my head. Season two. But
you know, you got to get me one of them
lying as hats. Those are pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I just got this. What It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They don't give you like swag all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm trying to no.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Very que.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We probably should get a lot more.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Shout out your social media please.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm on Instagram at Jonah Wharton and that's it. That's
my social media.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You make it real easy. I like that.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Can you make sure that you come back and see
us again. I've so enjoyed this conversation and we can
talk about all things San Francisco, LA, basketball, acting and
everything in between.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Absolutely, I love to Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
All right. Make sure you're a Lakers fan, right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I'm a Warriors fan.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
All Right, we got Well, we're gonna end this conversation
right now on a good note.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And a Kobe fan, one of those Kobe a Lakers fan.
I'm one of those Lakers fans. I'm a Kobe fan, right, JOHNA. Warton,
thanks so much for coming by the CV. All right,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is born got of Me mission focus text, Oh,
I'm focused.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm just saying, hey, hey, hey, hey, where is she?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
She's on the mark?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Can you pull him?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Replace? Not here?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'll stay close.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I have a reach out when she can't.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The Saudi Royal Marriya KUWAITI national. What do you think
basically out of me? You're the spy? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I think it makes no freaking sense?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
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to your car, you will get in, you will drive away.
You will not look back in the direction of the house.
Do you understand?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Walk.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and right now you can
see actor Jonah Wharton, who you're just listening to in
that clip as a serious series regular text on my
favorite show Barnun Lioness on Paramount Plus and its season
finale is coming up this Sunday, December eighth, And you
can also find Jonah Wharton on the upcoming episode and
(01:23):
season finale of n CIS Origins, which is Wednesday, December fourth.
That episode is titled Vivo or Mueto Life or Death.
The very busy Jonah Wharton joins me now here in
the KFI studio, john Us, Good to see you man,
Thank you for coming out tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh thanks for having me. That was cool listening Todent
brub me back to season one and you write a
lot of f BOMs.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
That's my kind of show. And I've seen your work
over the years. You are a chameleon. I'll see you
one way in one show, and you're very You're presented
very differently another way. And I wonder if if you're
acting is derivative of your life growing up. The reason
why I say this because I'm quite sure you met
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some very colorful people along the way.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Do I have this right?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
You were growing up in and around San Francisco in
a houseboat community of bohemian squatters.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
YEP, that's right. It sounds about right from Salcelito, the
waterfront right there. It's an interesting, interesting community.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But when I if I just listen to your voice,
the tambour and the cadence, I would swear you from
my Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
You know, I don't know, like I'm not the first
person to say that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Not the first person I've argued with my wife actually
from Texas, note from the Bay Area. I've just maybe
just got a lot of different influences influence in my
speech and who knows.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And it's interesting because you are playing someone whose name
texts now, so it's not lost on me the irony.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
But going back to that houseboat community of bohemians.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
By the way, not from Texas, Texas, from New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
New Jersey, right, So yeah, it's weird, but we're going
real deep in the show, but we will will do
that just a second. But take me back to this
houseboat community of bohemian squatters.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
What does that mean, what does that look like? What
does that sound like?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, my mom bought her first home there and it's
a seventies She bought it first seventy dollars. Basically, the
house folts out there, you can people found a loophole
where you could not have to pay rent because the
water is unincorporated, so it's in Saucelito. But once you're
on the water, you're outside of the city limits and
there's no way they can stop you. So people bought boats,
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put anchors down and just built up a community just
floating on the water there basically to avoid paying rent.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Okay, that's home for you, But what is your day
to day life like? How are you going to school?
How are you interacting with other people? What's that like?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It wasn't that different. We just walk off the boat,
walk on the land, and I had walked to school.
I'd have to walk about a mile to school when
I was you know, middle school and all that up
with other kids in the area along the way and
would walk to school, and yeah, it was it wasn't
as noticeable to me being there. It was just, you know,
when I go home, maybe get people will talk about
me living on the boat.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's like what kids in the way that they may
tease other people. What were they saying? How did they
view your lifestyle compared to their lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was different. It was definitely different ground. It's just
weird to other people. So I get teased, don't rock
the boat. So growing up, what were the dreams? What
would the aspirations growing up? I wanted to play ball, basketball.
I was a basketball player. I had never even considered
acting or going into this world. I was just obsessed
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with basketball, an athlete, but could you ball? Yes, very confidently.
That's what That's what I do. I still do, still do, right,
I still play. I still play. Yeah, I got I
got hurt in high school. You know, I wouldn't have
blown out my ankle the league, you know, you know
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how it goes.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
But also there's an La portion to your story which
is connected to acting. What brought you to La, When
did you get to La and what happened when you
got here.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I came to La on a whim in two thousand
and two. I'd done a year of community college. I
went to the small community college and the central Coast
to play basketball. That wasn't working out. I was like,
let me get the hell out of this small tap
It was just terror was boring. So I was like,
what's the next thing I could do. Let me come
to LA for a year and just hang out. So,
just on a whim to do something different, I moved
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down to LA and just started life here in LA
and still had no idea that acting was going to
be in your future, no idea. No. I even worked
at a restaurant and it was Norms on los Aye.
Everybody knows, Yeah, And that was the first job I
had in LA. I was just trying to figure out
how to get enough money to pay rent and get by.
(05:57):
And I remember there was a couple of waitresses there
working and they were aspiring actresses, and I thought it
was hilarious because I thought that was a stereotype that
wasn't really true. Oh it's very true. Oh this is
a real thing. People really come here to do it.
It's ridiculous. It didn't even and even after that, it
was in for another like five or six years that
I really got into it.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I question the next question I'm asking, respectfully, if only
because I wonder did the people that you were working with,
those waitresses, did they ever make it beyond that?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I didn't work there for long. Well, I think with
this my teen and I worked there for about a month.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But it's truly one in a million.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
You think of the number of the people who've moved
to LA who have this dream and fantasy and it's
never realized.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
So what was the impetus to try acting?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You heard it from your co workers, as it were,
What made you think that, well, maybe I should try this.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It was a slow process, I think with the thing
That really got me started is I got lucky. I
got a commercial. I was stating a girl at the time.
He took me up with their commercial agent. I went
out and I booked a Burger King commercial and I
was like, oh, this is an easy way to make money.
Now to me, I didn't I wasn't acting yet, but
it got me in SAG and you just.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Went out one audition and you got a commercial just
like that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
A couple a couple. I didn't know what I was doing.
It wasn't really, that wasn't acting. I just had to.
I walked in there and pretended I was eating a whopper,
and next thing that night they're like, hey, you come
eat a whopper in this commercial?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And was it one of those national deals? Yeah? Yeah,
oh that paid well.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
When I got that cause I was broken.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They're like, oh, you're gonna get thirty forty fifty thousand
dollars out of this. I'm like, well, this is a
good career.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
How much work was that one commercial?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Four or five hours?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
About that?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I auditioned and I worked the same day I went out.
I looked at there like, hey, I think somebody dropped
out or you know who knows the story. But they
needed me there that night, so I went in at
nine pm. I was out by three am.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I understand back in the day especially, it was much
more difficult to get your SAG card, to be able
to get some lines and be able to be authentic
in that way.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
What was your next step from there?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Then I just hung around waiting for things to happen,
and nothing did. So it wasn't this was two thousand
and six, two thousand and five or six. Yeah, and
but it planned the seed And then I was like,
I want to act, but I had never taken a class.
I didn't know anything about the craft. And then I
finally ended up just going to a few classes trying
to figure out what this thing is about.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Went to a few classes, booked a few commercials in
the rent.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I didn't book a few.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I wasn't booking.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I got one.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I wanted the seed, and that just planted the seed.
And once I found a good place, I was like, oh,
this is something you can actually work on and practice
and get good at. It's not just you know. I
Once I learned and to respect the craft, because I
had no respect for acting, I was like that seems
easy enough. You just go up there say some words,
and I could do that. And then once I found
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a class that really taught me like okay, this is
somebody can work at and we got into it and.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Were getting ready to go to first commercial break.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
What was that moment where you booked the job where
you said I might be able to do this as
a career.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think it was. It wasn't even a job they
gave me that. It was being in classes and seeing like, okay,
I've got like a little natural talent for this. And
then I just got obsessed. I have like a one
track mind, so I just got obsessed with the craft
and it was just that competitive nature. Yeah, totally, totally.
Once I lock in, I'm like that's it. So then
I just decide I'm going.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
To do it. Oh you like playing defense?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, oh locked you got that.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I played ball. I'm a little bit older than you,
but I played ball back in the day. Oh yeah,
I'm too old to play now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, you're you're right on. I take I love just
ruining people's days getting the man. I don't look like
I could do you up.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
But look, if you watch Lioness and see his character text.
That's who he is. He ruins people's day. That's the
only way I can describe it. I don't want to
give it away.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I like that. No, you look the college kids, Yeah,
you know in the house. Yeah, I don't want to
give it away. But real nice.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You could have done worse to them, exactly, Yeah, you
could have done worse if you're just tuning in right now.
My guest in the studio is actor Jonah Wharton. He's
a series regular ONLINEUS. He plays text and you'll be
able to find him in the season finale coming up
on this Sunday, December eighth, and you also find him
on the upcoming episode of the season finale of n
CIS origins on Wednesday, December fourth. We'll have more with
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Jonah Wharton just a moment. It is Later with mo
Kelly k if I AM six forty Live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
On k.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Six Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I gotta
correct myself. I made a mistake. We're talking right now
with actor Jonah Wharton, who's a series regular on Lions
and also he's gonna be on n CIS Origins. Not
on Wednesday, but tonight at ten o'clock. He's gonna leave
the studio and run home and watch himself on n
CIS Origins.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Am I wrong? Johnah?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You got it. It's interesting because I pull it up
on my phone.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I talk to a lot of actors and actresses, and
some are adamant they don't want to watch themselves, and
others are adamant they have to see everything they do.
I know in what I do, I listen to everything
I want to do that I do because I want
to what they call air check myself, see what I
did wrong, see what I can improve on, try to
get better. But some people don't like seeing themselves. Is
(11:28):
that a phenomenon that you've seen in this business?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh? Absolutely, It's just it's an individual. I know a
lot of people are like, yeah, I can't watch it.
It's just too uncomfortable. I like to watch it, especially
when it's good. If it's not good, then I'm like,
then it's tough.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Tell me tonight n CIS Origins. What's going down.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I'm not sure what I can give away.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Oh you don't want to give away, but.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There's a priest is killed and I got to figure out, Oh,
will we got here? Please do not reveal reveal that. Okay, okay, no,
a priest is coude. I can say that NCS or
it's interesting. It's it takes place in the nineties, so
it's an origin story of Gibbs, the star Mark.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Roy Jefro Gibbs.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I'm all up in NCS said, let me just sorry,
I got to interrupt you when they announced n CIS origins.
It was a prequel dating way back in the nineteen nineties.
I think, damn, I feel attacked because I remember the
nineteen nineties. I was coming out of college in the
nineteen nineties, and they want to make because jeth throw
Gibbs is is the older elder statesman of n CIS
(12:33):
and we're taking him back to his origin. It's like, no,
he's older than me, or at least so I thought.
But I'm sorry, go ahead. It's a period piece. I
know the nineties. It's the nineties period piece. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So it's it's the show is just letting you know
how all those characters, specifically Gibbs turned into who they
are now or in NCIS, So it's a it's a
little different take on that. It's just the I mean,
the name says it's the origin of that, so it's
just following that whole storyline how he got there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Did you have any professional connection to the NCIS universe
prior to doing this?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I had done. Yes, I've been on NCISLA and that's
what I all NCIS, so yeah, I've been in that world.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh, different characters, different world, different characters.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
But this still was a degree of familiarity with what
it represents and why it's so damn popular and it
has these sprawling franchises.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I loved it. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was always a fan of the original, more so
than NCIS Los Angeles, maybe because I spent the most
time with it. But with you, how much do your
personal watching habits impact either how your audition or your preparation.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Honestly, not much at all. I don't watch much. I
watch life, so I'm just trying to bring real life
to whatever I do. I know I've had this discussion
with actors and stuff about the tone of different shows.
I personally don't worry about that. I'm just gonna make
it real based on I read the script and I
see the world I'm going into based on that, and
my job is to just make it natural and real.
And I think they can fit in in anything.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
All right, take me through this this week. All right?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Are you giving the script on Monday and you have
a table read on Tuesday and you're blocking on Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
How does that go?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It just depends online us. I had months and months
and months to prepare. I'm I'm talking to seals and
Tier one operators and really like getting into this world.
We're doing training, weapons training, months of training, just physical
training just to get that down. So I had all
the time in the world to research and know exactly
the world I'm going into. And then for n CIS,
(14:42):
I had a day. Hey you're playing a priest. I'll
be playing a priest. I could say that in two days.
So in two days, so you just got to Yeah, Google,
YouTube is my friend, and relying on other people.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You know we're there.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm just like, hey, I can only do so much
in two days as far as research goes.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You mentioned Lions. I love that show. I've seen every episode.
Can't wait for the season finale, which is coming up
on Sunday the eighth.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It takes place all around the world.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's about a special ops team and it's led by
Zoe Saldana and you are part of that team. You
mentioned your training and preparation for that role. Is it
taking you around the world like the show presents itself.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Absolutely? Yeah. We shot the first season we shot we
started in Baltimore, but.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That's not around the world, well.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Three thousand miles from here.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yes, sure.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We started in Baltimore for the you know, the stuff
in Baltimore, DC area. Then the storyline went to Majorca, Spain,
so we actually got to go there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
How long were you in Biorca?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Six weeks? Oh, you have a horrible job. Yeah, you know,
somebody's got to do it right. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Where else because.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And then after Myorca was working hard. It is very
very hard work and Myorca after that, After that we
went to Morocco. So is it season one that was
supposed to be Iraq?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yes, run that.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We shot that in Morocco.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
It is.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Morocco is as gorgeous as I.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Think it is.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, Morocco, It's it's amazing, it's beautiful. I didn't get
as much of a chance to see Morocco because I
was working every day that I was there Myorca. I
had a lot more time over here there six weeks
I'm shooting, I had explored the whole island. That place
is the most beautiful place I've been. Morocco's pretty special too.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I often talk about Lionis on this show. I am
an uber fan of all things Taylor shared it. He's
one of those people who not only creates great shows.
You want to talk about Yellowstone or Landman, which I'm
into now, and you'll see some of the same actors
overlapping and crossing into the different universes. But I also
see him online in this What is it like having
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the series creator working alongside you as an actor in
an episode or two?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's great. I mean it just he created the whole thing.
You just trust his vision. You know what he knows
what he's doing, he knows what he wants. So when
he's working and directing, it's just we move so quick.
He knows exactly the once. There's no there's no wasted anything,
uh huh. And I love it. He just wants it
to be real. I think that's why he picked me.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
His just kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Hate that that mentality of like, hey, just he's created
this whole world, these amazing scripts. It's ridiculously talented as
a writer. So it's just our job to come in
there and not mess it up.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Basically, you may not see his writing process, but I'm
thinking that how does he have the time to write,
to edit, to direct, and also perform be in scenes?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Not just one.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Show, but I don't know, four or five shows you
talk about Tulsa King and all the other shows that
he's working on simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I have no idea. It's crazy. That is insane. I
don't know how he does it. Maybe he doesn't sleep
or or what, but he does it. He writes every
single episode, the whole thing, the entire season is all him.
Then he jumps off to Yellowstone and nineteen twenty three
and all these other things. And I don't know. I
wish I could tell you. I have no idea. He's superhuman.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But is he the person who's guiding all the auditions? Yes,
he picks everyone, but he is he that person who's
there from beginning to end of the audition process.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I think everybody has a different story. My story getting
on there is I just I sent in a tape
and next thing, you know, had an offer. It was
it was just that was It was no. I didn't test,
I didn't go meet anybody. I didn't even talk to
I didn't talk to anyone in person. Until I got
to Baltimore. I didn't know it was real, and I
was like, is this really happening? And I showed up
there and ended up being true. But I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Let me ask you this because when we started our
conversation before we get ready to close it, we start
a conversation with a clip, and in that clip you
may not have recognized the voice if you're listening right now,
but you had the.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Scene with Nicole Kidman. Yeah, and you have these other actors.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
You have Morgan Freeman walking around, Michael Kelly, and you
obviously have Zoe Saldania.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
What is that like? What is that experience like?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Because you're a person who, like me, can be a
fan of actors and their performances.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What's it like then working with them?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's just exciting. It's exciting. You know, it's just a
dream come true to be there. Then I just show
up and it's just like acting with anybody else on
a certain level, you just so up and you go
do your thing. It's not because you know what I mean,
but I mean acting with great actors actually makes it
so much easier because when they're with you, they're in it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It just it.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's really a team sport. So the better the actor
you're in a scene with, the easier it is for me.
So just kind of you just react and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Go with it.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So I have one more question, and you know, no
one's listening, and not even your wife who sitting right
next to you, so don't mind her.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Okay, what's it like doing a scene with Nicole Kidman? Oh,
she's the most fun. She's the most fun. She's she's
in it. Okay, I don't know, No, not like that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Don't get in trouble, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That's okay now. She she is just the most fun.
She's doing something different on every take. She's in it
before the camera starts rolling. My first, the first time
I think the scene your plan is the first time
I did a scene with her, and.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I remember that scene well, yeah, because you getting ready
to shoot her because you didn't know who it was rolling.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Up right, right. And the funny thing is I had
met her the day before. That was the first time
I met her. And then she you know, we're ready
to do the scene, and you know, she's very fresh,
she's so sweet and nice. So I met her the
day before. So I came up there today we're about
to do our scene, like, hey, how are you? And
she was like pissed off. I was like, oh, in character,
pissed off in character passed off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
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mean I wasn't sure for a second either, but then
I was like, oh, I got it. I got it.
She was in it. So I'm like, let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I need to get you out of this studio.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
And I mean this respectfully because you're getting ready to
come up on NCIS origins in about thirty minutes. Congratulations
to you Jonah Wharton on that, and also be sure
to check out Lyning this season three finale this Sunday,
December eighth.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Season two, Oh, season two, I'm just messing up stuff.
It's all running together in my head. Season two. But
you know, you got to get me one of them
lying as hats. Those are pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I just got this. What It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They don't give you like swag all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm trying to no.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Very que.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We probably should get a lot more.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Shout out your social media please.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm on Instagram at Jonah Wharton and that's it. That's
my social media.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You make it real easy. I like that.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Can you make sure that you come back and see
us again. I've so enjoyed this conversation and we can
talk about all things San Francisco, LA, basketball, acting and
everything in between.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Absolutely, I love to Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
All right. Make sure you're a Lakers fan, right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I'm a Warriors fan.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
All Right, we got Well, we're gonna end this conversation
right now on a good note.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And a Kobe fan, one of those Kobe a Lakers fan.
I'm one of those Lakers fans. I'm a Kobe fan, right, JOHNA. Warton,
thanks so much for coming by the CV. All right,
thanks for having me.
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