April 19, 2025 • 10 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Mark Rahner’s review of ‘Sinners;’ the amazing new “Jim Crow-era vampire film” from Director Ryan Coogler, starring Michael B. Jordan in the Rahner Report - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty Nature with.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Run and Report with Mark Ronner k.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
IF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube and also iHeartRadio Mark Runner with
the Runner Report.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
All Right, I'm not gonna make you wait for it.
Sinners is my favorite movie so far this year. It's
only April, but this one's gonna be a tough one
to beat. It's a terrific movie. It's a terrific vampire movie.
It's a terrific period movie, and it's a terrific black movie.
Here's a good bed at the trailer right here. It's long,
but it's good.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We've been going a long time.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
Be back man, you twins, now we cousins.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
There are legends of people with the gift of making
music so true, making conscious spirits from the past and
the future. This gift can bring fame and fortune.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Will somebody tag me?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But it also can piece the veil between life and dance.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Listen here, this ain't no house party.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Awesome you keep dancing with the devil. Careful boy, You're
gonna bite off logan.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You can too.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
One day it's going to follow you home because it's
a problem.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Now the hell going on?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh we heard tale of a party.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
This world already left you for dead. I can save
you from your faith. You don't need no saying yes
you do and you are.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I am your way out.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Don't care.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
It's all better now, just.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
A lit.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I don't believe you imagine.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Ghosts do.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Just powers? Somebody please take me who We're you gonna
kill every laze? What are you?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Now?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Did I miss a bleep there?
Speaker 7 (03:02):
If?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
So? Lucky you if you're watching on the live stream.
Sinners stars Michael B. Jordan and is directed and written
by his frequent partner Ryan Kugler. And right out of
the gate, there's a gimmick that could have ground the
whole thing to a shrieking halt and turn it into
a joke. Jordan is playing twin brothers, and I kept
waiting for that to get ridiculous, but it's played straight,
and it's seamless enough that eventually you just settle into
it and stop looking for bloopers. It's the nineteen thirties
(03:25):
and the brothers are some sort of former gangsters returning
from Chicago to their really imposed impoverished hometown in Mississippi,
where a lot of their friends are still picking cotton,
and the Blues is their transcendent form of entertainment if
they're not in church, and I mean transcendent in ways
that I'm not going to spoil. The brothers are well dressed,
they're flush with cash and weapons, and they want to
open their own juke joint. And it's lucky. This is
(03:47):
decades before a Yelp, but also really extremely unlucky as well,
vampire unlucky. They take their time getting there. The story's
immersive in a way that reminded me of Black Panther,
which is also a Kugler deal. The brothers have to
assemble a team first, just like in a western or
a superhero movie, and it's a great cast that includes
some familiar faces and some new ones. The vampires are creepy,
(04:10):
and they're led by a kind of a charismatic musical
redneck who you heard in the trailer. It's also an
R rated movie with some grown up content, and by
that I mean dirty sex, which is refreshing. I keep
wondering why American movies have gotten so puritanical, yet they
show violence and gore that would gross out a corner
with no problem about the only things I wasn't crazy
(04:31):
about with Sinners. The dialogue was hard to understand pretty
often due to what I guess was some sort of
period authentic mumbling and slang. I'm gonna be one of
the geezers who watches it with the subtitles on when
it's available at home, and I am going to watch
it again, and it almost overstays. It's welcome. It's a
good two hours and seventeen minutes, and I think I
could have trimmed that seventeen pretty easily. But if you're
(04:53):
going into this, you're gonna leave feeling satisfied. And I
think a little move too, especially by an epilogue. You
want to make sure that you stay for or when
the credits start rolling. I'm trying not to tell you
too much. In fact, I would avoid the trailers for
Sinners too, because some of them give too much away.
Now I want to bring too waala into this twiler.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
There.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Did you like Sinners as much as I did?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think I loved it more. I loved every single
thing about this film from the beginning This film is
set in a point of time and in the South
when my grandmother, not my great grandmother, my grandmother was
ten years old in that same period in Texas. My
(05:36):
grandmother used to tell me stories about my great grandmother
and sharecropping and farming and all that. So watching this film,
it took me immediately to a place of stories that
I grew up listening to and hearing my grandmother talk about.
I know you and Fush couldn't see it, but there
was the point of time when the film came to
(05:57):
an end and I did everything I could to hide
my face in my sweater and cry. I went to
my car and cried for a good twenty minutes after
because of how deeply this film touched me. This film
is transcendent on a whole bunch of different levels. Beyond
the good acting, beyond the good storyline, beyond the good action,
(06:20):
the jump effects, you know, jump scares. When it needs me,
this film took me to a place that I didn't
think it was actually going to. I didn't think the
film was going to go that deep into this storyline
and into this this level of storytelling, and wow, it did,
and it's haunting. It's very very haunting in what it
(06:42):
did for me. And you missed the second end credit scene,
which is actually even more of a rewarding ending when
you get to that second end credits.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Wow, Yeah, there's a second end credit scene.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Okay, you got to tell me about that. Off the air,
I moved by it as well. In fact, I think
it's kind of an instant classic. That's the first thing
I thought when I left there. It's also a great
looking movie, and I mentioned that it was good on
all sorts of fronts as a period movie and also
as a black movie. But it also did not feel
like a lecture. Ever, it was entertaining from start to finish.
(07:18):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, absolutely, there were several messages that I know were
directly and pointedly for the African American artists, without saying message,
without trying to preach. There was a side of the
South that they were trying to show. There's a side
of the South that they were highlighting that I think
(07:40):
more filmmakers when they tell these stories, when they go
into stories about the past involving African Americans, there is
a type of story that Moe and I do not
go and see. We do not participate with, we do
not support, and those are inward. You can't do that
moviees And it is when you have a movie about
(08:01):
I don't care a team of basketball players who are
from a certain part of the town and could never
play basketball, but they all come together and in the
end they beat that team, and it's like, oh, I
guess you in words can do that. Be it pilots,
be it debaters, be it swimmers, you name it. There
are too many films that come out where they tell
(08:22):
these stories and it starts with us being this thing,
this pejorative, and in the end it's like, I guess
we had you pejoratives all wrong.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, I use the term. When you and I
were just talking off the air the other day, we're
talking about black movies and I mentioned that I wasn't
crazy about the kind that I think are just suffering porn.
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yes, too many of those that just absolutely suck. This
film instant classic. I mean, this is one I will
watch again and again and again. It's got that level
of talent behind it. It's gonna be hard to beat
that film this year.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Now. I haven't said fruit Vale Station but of all
the Coogler movies that I have seen, I think this
is the best. I think he's really come into his
own as a filmmaker. And even the stuff that I
wasn't crazy about, I wouldn't take out of the movie
because that's his vision.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, yes, yes, I took it all and say, you
know what, he wanted to put this in for a minute.
He wanted to stretch the scene out for a minute,
which is why I need to go back and see
it again. I understood all the dialogue, and I think
it's maybe just because I'm more used to hearing that
level of dialogue. I was like, and then my mom
thinking of myself, I wonder if everyone else knows what
they're saying, because I know what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, if I had a time machine and I was
transported back to then I would have been the guy
going huh it was a vernacular line?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Was it vernacular?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It was that?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And the delivery as well. Yes, yeah, well we both
loved it. Foush. I don't think you loved it quite
as much, but it was good. It's just I think
I guess the wave was sold to me.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I thought it was a little bit more like action,
you know, filled a little bit, but I mean, yeah,
you guys hid everything on the mark, especially the especially
the having trouble understanding them for a decent amount of
the film. It was kind of hard.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
They immerse you in the world so that when the
action finally does happen, it feels very earned to me,
if that makes sense to you. Yeah, all right, Well
there's your report. Moe.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You got to see this. You should have been there.
I should have been there, but life was life and
then gotten away. Well, I'll try to see it this weekend.
K if I AM six forty live everywhere i heeartradio
app and on YouTube at mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty Nature with.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Run and Report with Mark Ronner k.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
IF I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube and also iHeartRadio Mark Runner with
the Runner Report.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
All Right, I'm not gonna make you wait for it.
Sinners is my favorite movie so far this year. It's
only April, but this one's gonna be a tough one
to beat. It's a terrific movie. It's a terrific vampire movie.
It's a terrific period movie, and it's a terrific black movie.
Here's a good bed at the trailer right here. It's long,
but it's good.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We've been going a long time.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
Be back man, you twins, now we cousins.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
There are legends of people with the gift of making
music so true, making conscious spirits from the past and
the future. This gift can bring fame and fortune.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Will somebody tag me?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But it also can piece the veil between life and dance.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Listen here, this ain't no house party.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Awesome you keep dancing with the devil. Careful boy, You're
gonna bite off logan.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You can too.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
One day it's going to follow you home because it's
a problem.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Now the hell going on?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh we heard tale of a party.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
This world already left you for dead. I can save
you from your faith. You don't need no saying yes
you do and you are.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I am your way out.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Don't care.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
It's all better now, just.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
A lit.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I don't believe you imagine.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Ghosts do.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Just powers? Somebody please take me who We're you gonna
kill every laze? What are you?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Now?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Did I miss a bleep there?
Speaker 7 (03:02):
If?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
So? Lucky you if you're watching on the live stream.
Sinners stars Michael B. Jordan and is directed and written
by his frequent partner Ryan Kugler. And right out of
the gate, there's a gimmick that could have ground the
whole thing to a shrieking halt and turn it into
a joke. Jordan is playing twin brothers, and I kept
waiting for that to get ridiculous, but it's played straight,
and it's seamless enough that eventually you just settle into
it and stop looking for bloopers. It's the nineteen thirties
(03:25):
and the brothers are some sort of former gangsters returning
from Chicago to their really imposed impoverished hometown in Mississippi,
where a lot of their friends are still picking cotton,
and the Blues is their transcendent form of entertainment if
they're not in church, and I mean transcendent in ways
that I'm not going to spoil. The brothers are well dressed,
they're flush with cash and weapons, and they want to
open their own juke joint. And it's lucky. This is
(03:47):
decades before a Yelp, but also really extremely unlucky as well,
vampire unlucky. They take their time getting there. The story's
immersive in a way that reminded me of Black Panther,
which is also a Kugler deal. The brothers have to
assemble a team first, just like in a western or
a superhero movie, and it's a great cast that includes
some familiar faces and some new ones. The vampires are creepy,
(04:10):
and they're led by a kind of a charismatic musical
redneck who you heard in the trailer. It's also an
R rated movie with some grown up content, and by
that I mean dirty sex, which is refreshing. I keep
wondering why American movies have gotten so puritanical, yet they
show violence and gore that would gross out a corner
with no problem about the only things I wasn't crazy
(04:31):
about with Sinners. The dialogue was hard to understand pretty
often due to what I guess was some sort of
period authentic mumbling and slang. I'm gonna be one of
the geezers who watches it with the subtitles on when
it's available at home, and I am going to watch
it again, and it almost overstays. It's welcome. It's a
good two hours and seventeen minutes, and I think I
could have trimmed that seventeen pretty easily. But if you're
(04:53):
going into this, you're gonna leave feeling satisfied. And I
think a little move too, especially by an epilogue. You
want to make sure that you stay for or when
the credits start rolling. I'm trying not to tell you
too much. In fact, I would avoid the trailers for
Sinners too, because some of them give too much away.
Now I want to bring too waala into this twiler.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
There.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Did you like Sinners as much as I did?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think I loved it more. I loved every single
thing about this film from the beginning This film is
set in a point of time and in the South
when my grandmother, not my great grandmother, my grandmother was
ten years old in that same period in Texas. My
(05:36):
grandmother used to tell me stories about my great grandmother
and sharecropping and farming and all that. So watching this film,
it took me immediately to a place of stories that
I grew up listening to and hearing my grandmother talk about.
I know you and Fush couldn't see it, but there
was the point of time when the film came to
(05:57):
an end and I did everything I could to hide
my face in my sweater and cry. I went to
my car and cried for a good twenty minutes after
because of how deeply this film touched me. This film
is transcendent on a whole bunch of different levels. Beyond
the good acting, beyond the good storyline, beyond the good action,
(06:20):
the jump effects, you know, jump scares. When it needs me,
this film took me to a place that I didn't
think it was actually going to. I didn't think the
film was going to go that deep into this storyline
and into this this level of storytelling, and wow, it did,
and it's haunting. It's very very haunting in what it
(06:42):
did for me. And you missed the second end credit scene,
which is actually even more of a rewarding ending when
you get to that second end credits.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Wow, Yeah, there's a second end credit scene.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Okay, you got to tell me about that. Off the air,
I moved by it as well. In fact, I think
it's kind of an instant classic. That's the first thing
I thought when I left there. It's also a great
looking movie, and I mentioned that it was good on
all sorts of fronts as a period movie and also
as a black movie. But it also did not feel
like a lecture. Ever, it was entertaining from start to finish.
(07:18):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, absolutely, there were several messages that I know were
directly and pointedly for the African American artists, without saying message,
without trying to preach. There was a side of the
South that they were trying to show. There's a side
of the South that they were highlighting that I think
(07:40):
more filmmakers when they tell these stories, when they go
into stories about the past involving African Americans, there is
a type of story that Moe and I do not
go and see. We do not participate with, we do
not support, and those are inward. You can't do that
moviees And it is when you have a movie about
(08:01):
I don't care a team of basketball players who are
from a certain part of the town and could never
play basketball, but they all come together and in the
end they beat that team, and it's like, oh, I
guess you in words can do that. Be it pilots,
be it debaters, be it swimmers, you name it. There
are too many films that come out where they tell
(08:22):
these stories and it starts with us being this thing,
this pejorative, and in the end it's like, I guess
we had you pejoratives all wrong.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, I use the term. When you and I
were just talking off the air the other day, we're
talking about black movies and I mentioned that I wasn't
crazy about the kind that I think are just suffering porn.
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yes, too many of those that just absolutely suck. This
film instant classic. I mean, this is one I will
watch again and again and again. It's got that level
of talent behind it. It's gonna be hard to beat
that film this year.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Now. I haven't said fruit Vale Station but of all
the Coogler movies that I have seen, I think this
is the best. I think he's really come into his
own as a filmmaker. And even the stuff that I
wasn't crazy about, I wouldn't take out of the movie
because that's his vision.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, yes, yes, I took it all and say, you
know what, he wanted to put this in for a minute.
He wanted to stretch the scene out for a minute,
which is why I need to go back and see
it again. I understood all the dialogue, and I think
it's maybe just because I'm more used to hearing that
level of dialogue. I was like, and then my mom
thinking of myself, I wonder if everyone else knows what
they're saying, because I know what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, if I had a time machine and I was
transported back to then I would have been the guy
going huh it was a vernacular line?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Was it vernacular?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It was that?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And the delivery as well. Yes, yeah, well we both
loved it. Foush. I don't think you loved it quite
as much, but it was good. It's just I think
I guess the wave was sold to me.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I thought it was a little bit more like action,
you know, filled a little bit, but I mean, yeah,
you guys hid everything on the mark, especially the especially
the having trouble understanding them for a decent amount of
the film. It was kind of hard.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
They immerse you in the world so that when the
action finally does happen, it feels very earned to me,
if that makes sense to you. Yeah, all right, Well
there's your report. Moe.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You got to see this. You should have been there.
I should have been there, but life was life and
then gotten away. Well, I'll try to see it this weekend.
K if I AM six forty live everywhere i heeartradio
app and on YouTube at mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
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