April 18, 2025 • 15 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A recap of KFI reporter Michael Monks' coverage of the Menendez Brothers resentencing hearing at the Van Nuys courthouse - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Live, on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube. Been joining
us now from the iHeartRadio studios in downtown Los Angeles
is kfi's own Michael Monks.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Michael, good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thank you for spending your whole day, your literal whole day,
covering the Menindez brothers. First you were down at the
Van Eys Courthouse. Now you're talking to me. We know
from published news reports that the hearing has been postponed
until May night, but I'm quite sure there was more
to the day, was there not, Mo.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This was a wild day in Van Nuys. Actually, most
of us who showed up there to cover it very
early this morning anticipated being there all day today, but
also back there again tomorrow. And I think fans and
family of the Menindez brothers were chomping at the bit
that this might be a real shot at freedom. But
(00:58):
the day got off to a very range start because
word had come out last night that La County District
Attorney Nathan Hawkman had suggested that maybe we should delay
this thing. He filed emotion to that effect. We didn't
know why exactly. But when he showed up before entering
court this morning, he came over and talked all of
us holding microphones in his face, what he likes to do,
(01:19):
and he says, I got my hands on this risk
assessment report that the State Parole Board has been working
on per the order of Governor Newsom related to the
Menindez brothers, and I don't think the judge has it,
and I don't think the defense team has it, and
I think they should have it. So to give us
time to review it, I filed emotion to do just that.
(01:42):
Let's take a break and let's look at it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That was the.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
First little kink that we had in the day's events
because when they go into Courtney argues this, the judge hays, no,
we're proceeding. But later in the morning the judge halts
everything and says we need to take a long recess
because we need to get clarity from the state on
whether anybody else is allowed to read this document. And
that's where things really started to get weird.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I actually air on the side of the family who
want the Menindez brothers release, in the sense that if
you were in the courtroom and you have a shot
or a chance, even though slight as it may be,
you got a chance, and I think the Menindez brothers,
against my wishes, have a.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Chance to be set free.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Now did this from what you could glean, did this continuance,
this postponement, How was that received by the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Menindez brothers and their council? Not well? Not well at all.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In fact, it was very strange to hear their defense
attorney Mark Gera goes after the fact, and we already
know he thinks the district attorney has it out for
the Menendez brothers for whatever reason, rather than just prosecuting
this case straight down the line. But it got real
intense afterwards. First of all, gart suggested that Hawkman was
(03:02):
using this document from the parole board as a weapon.
You know, some of the family members said they thought
they were going to have to testify and be cross
examined on the contents of a document no one had
ever seen before. Of course that's not going to happen
and not been admitted into court. But they were saying
this on the record with the support of their defense team.
So that was very very strange. But what ended up
(03:23):
happening was Garago's got so angry that the second kink
in the day appeared, a second motion, one that Garago
says he's going to file to have Nathan Hackman booted
off this case, to have the entire case stripped away
from the La County District Attorney's office, And he says
he's going to file that very soon. So when May
(03:44):
ninth rolls around, it won't be a hearing on whether
the Menindez brothers should be resentenced. It will be consideration
of these two issues. One, can this report from the
State Parole Board be admitted into this case involving the resentencing?
And too, should Nathan Hakman be recused from this case?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You basically answered my next question I was going to ask.
I was going to ask you how large does it
loom that is Nathan Hockman on this case and not
George Gascone, who seemingly had a very different level of
appreciation my word for the Menindez brother's story.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I think what George Gascone, the previous La County District
Excuse me, I'm sorry if my mic broke up a
little bit there. The previous LA County District Attorney saw
an opportunity for his failing reelection campaign. He saw an
increase in popularity there for the Menindez brothers because of
some Netflix broadcast, and I think he might have tried
(04:46):
to cash in a little bit as a hail Mary
to save his failing reelection campaign, and obviously didn't work.
He was trounced in the November election by Nathan Hockman.
Hakman has presided over this case in a way that
I even said to Hawkman himself that it feels a
bit like a law school class because he never just
(05:06):
comes out and releases a statement. You're always going to
be sitting there in front of him for about forty
five minutes while he meanders through all of the murky
underneath of the law and explains all of the different paths.
He did that even today. It's never right to the point,
never giving the sound bite right away that you need
to follow your story. It's always a full explanation of
(05:28):
the law. But one thing is clear, Nathan Hakman believes
Eric and Leumanandez committed a heinous crime. They murdered their
parents in cold blood. They premeditatedly murdered them. They lied
about it, They lied again about it, They lied again
about it. They had an ever evolving story, and even now,
he says, even though they're arguing that they have new
(05:50):
evidence that supports their allegations of sexual abuse and that
they acted in self defense, they have not fully owned
up to what they did to their parents in Beverly
Hills in nineteen eighty nine, and they have not expressed
a level of remorse that is sufficient to him, and
that is far different than what you saw from a
more sympathetic George Gascon.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Before we go to break, let me just ask a
question as a follow up to that, what difference does
it or should it make that the Menindez brothers show
contrition when we're talking about resentencing, we're not talking about
a parole board hearing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If that makes any difference.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It does, because again, there are three different paths that
the menindezs are currently seeking, all at the same time.
They're fighting on all fronts. Today was about resentencing. When
they were originally sentenced in nineteen ninety six, it was
to life in prison without parole. A re sentencing could
drop that down to fifty years to life, and because
(06:51):
they were under the age of twenty six at the
time of the killing, they could be eligible for immediate parole,
So that's very, very important, but one of the considerations
is their rehabilitation. One of the other avenues they're seeking
is a new trial that hasn't moved forward yet. Nathan
Hoffman also opposes that. And the third one is potential
(07:11):
clemency from Governor Newsom, which would require the involvement of
the Parole Board. And that's where today's document came from.
So now you've got a couple of these avenues intermingling
and kind of screwing with each other.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Michael Monks, you have enlightened us to such a great
degree about what seemingly was a non event today, But
there's a lot underneath just the news that the resentencing
has been postponed. I want to talk to you one
more segment. If you've got time for us. Sure, it's
Later with Mo Kelly. Cafi's own Michael Monks, who's been
reporting on the menindez Re sentencing hearing, joins us. You know,
(07:46):
join us again on the other side of the break.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's Mo Kelly and also on YouTube, atmosphere from Kelly
Live Everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. I'm right
in the middle of a conversation with kfi's own Michael Monks,
who spent the better part of the day.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We were basically pasting each other.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In fact, Michael Monks almost hit me in the garage day,
tried to run me down.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I was mine of my own business.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I thought I had right of way walking from my
car to the stairwell, and Michael came to a screeching halt,
and you looked a little suspicious, and then he gave
me a runner and said, why am I in his path?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I didn't know we were going to have this conversation
tonight or not. Just because of that, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I am a very pedestrian conscious, though I promise you
I would not have run over you.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I might have had the thought you the long day.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, you say that because you know that all of
southern California's listening right now.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You just want to put that on the record.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I don't want to be suspected in anything, but I'm
trying to be employee of the month.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Do they still do that? I don't know. Okay, I
saw you one it once, you're still on the plot.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's one of my finest moments in my life.
I got to say that in my career. But to
be serious, we're talking about the Menindez brothers, and I
was wondering. I asked, like, does it really matter if
it's Nathan Hoffman or George Gascon And there's an argument
to be made that this might have gone very differently
if George Gascone were still our.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
La County DA.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But beyond that, when we get back on May ninth,
there's no real reason to be able to forecast how
these motions are going to play out. But do you
get a sense of any momentum after today?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I was trying to think about this, like who won today?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And it doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like anybody did because and I'll tell you something else
that was really interesting this event. They announced that, Hey,
if you're just from the public, but you want to
sit in the courtroom and watch this, we're going to
have a lottery basically a raffle, and we'll pull the
numbers out and if your number is called, you'll have
a seat in the courtroom. And when they did this,
(09:58):
months ago when these hearings started, it was a mad house.
There were sixteen seats available today in that raffle, and
I think there were just barely more than that who
showed up for them. So the sort of allure of
this thing has worn off in terms of who's showing up.
There weren't any protesters. There was one person running around saying,
(10:21):
you know, shouting free them and indez and I think
there was a live stream involved with that, so who
knows what that person was doing. But it was not
a madhouse. It was mostly just guys like me, you know,
holding microphones with pens and notebooks and trying to report
on what was going on. But the public interest, I
don't know if it has waned, because it is still
an interesting story.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think that's indisputable.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
These guys have been part of our lives for three
decades and a lot recently after years of no one
really thinking about them, but nobody really showed up for
them today, or showed up for this event. I thought
that was the first interesting thing I saw, and then
the real interesting stuff started in the courtroom. So as
far as who won today, I don't know. I think
both parties left kind of angry. I think it got
(11:06):
kind of heated. Some of the reporting I've read from
my colleagues indicates that it got pretty heated in the courtroom.
We're challenged because if you're there on the scene, you
can't actually go into the courtroom. They take everything from you,
They take your phone from you. You can't send any
messages out. So we kind of stayed outside and waited
for updates that way, so I didn't get to see
(11:26):
the actual court. Reports indicate it got heated in there.
I think this was like if we put it into
a sports event. This was just like a bad basketball game.
Nobody was making any shots and it was just brutal.
And now we have to go to overtime and watch
more of it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Speaking of how the Menindaz brothers have been part of
our lives, even in a distance since for more than
thirty years, I wonder about the larger evolution of how
the media may impact the courtroom. What I mean by
that is I think of the free Britney movement, how
Britney spears and her.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was it, her hership conservativeship, yes, where she was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Being overseen by her family, and how that changed because
of media and also documentaries and what have you I
think about R. Kelly and how it wasn't until you
had uh these dueling documentaries talking about, you know, surviving
R Kelly, that the legal end began to change and
I can think about this and public statements made by
(12:30):
Kim Kardashian and others about the Menindez plite in their case,
and how that's led I think in great, uh great
degree to this what we're seeing now. More philosophical question,
what do you think the media has done, either done
well or even done to its own detriment to shape
what is important in the courtroom these days?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, regardless of the score you might give the media
and not really the news media, mostly the creative entertainment
media that has been created around the story of the Menindezes,
it has absolutely led us to this occasion, There's no
question about it. Have you ever imagined in your life
that a fifteen year old would suddenly become a total
stan of Eric and Lylemanindez, Right, That's only possible because
(13:16):
of this new media that existed, the documentary and the
docuseries that came out on streaming, and George Gascollan acknowledged
that Nathan Hoffman has acknowledged that, and I think the
Menindez brothers must be eternally grateful, regardless of what they
think of their portrayals. They have to be grateful that
that media exists, because it turned the tide and got them,
has gotten them this far. They may not get out,
(13:39):
but the only reason they have a fighting chance at
all is because of the rise and their profile because
of that media. What I was thinking today was, you know,
I was a kid when the Menindez brothers were in
the news, and I remember that, you know what I mean,
And I'm thinking, what if my life had kind of
stopped as I know it? But I'm still live, but
(14:00):
I'm kind of confined like they are in prison. Nineteen
ninety six was a pretty peak year. I think humanity
kind of peaked there in the mid to late nineties.
We had a little bit of Internet culture was pretty good.
I think all music genres were really at their peak.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's not a.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Bad time to like have the last memory of America. Yeah,
but I wonder what it will be like for them
if they do get out to be like nineties guys
and re released on the streets. In twenty twenty, five America.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's quite a different place.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It is not an impossibility, and I think that is
the takeaway. They have not a great chance, but more
than no chance at all. That's exactly right, Michael Monks.
We appreciate you spinning your whole life down there today,
and you'll probably do it again on May ninth.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But until that time, thank you for what you do.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Just stay out of the way of my pathfinder.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's that or or take the subway and might get
still run down by you somehow.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Someway. You know me. That is my prefer mode of transportation.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But they make me drive that company car and it's
very big and.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Scary, Yes it is. It's scared that Jesus out of
me today. Have a safe I'll probably see them all.
But if I don't see you, have a safe weekend.
You do the same, can if I am six forty
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app Ks, I'm kost
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Speaker 3 (15:19):
Live everywhere on the Echhart Radio app
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Live, on the iHeartRadio app and also YouTube. Been joining
us now from the iHeartRadio studios in downtown Los Angeles
is kfi's own Michael Monks.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Michael, good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thank you for spending your whole day, your literal whole day,
covering the Menindez brothers. First you were down at the
Van Eys Courthouse. Now you're talking to me. We know
from published news reports that the hearing has been postponed
until May night, but I'm quite sure there was more
to the day, was there not, Mo.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
This was a wild day in Van Nuys. Actually, most
of us who showed up there to cover it very
early this morning anticipated being there all day today, but
also back there again tomorrow. And I think fans and
family of the Menindez brothers were chomping at the bit
that this might be a real shot at freedom. But
(00:58):
the day got off to a very range start because
word had come out last night that La County District
Attorney Nathan Hawkman had suggested that maybe we should delay
this thing. He filed emotion to that effect. We didn't
know why exactly. But when he showed up before entering
court this morning, he came over and talked all of
us holding microphones in his face, what he likes to do,
(01:19):
and he says, I got my hands on this risk
assessment report that the State Parole Board has been working
on per the order of Governor Newsom related to the
Menindez brothers, and I don't think the judge has it,
and I don't think the defense team has it, and
I think they should have it. So to give us
time to review it, I filed emotion to do just that.
(01:42):
Let's take a break and let's look at it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
That was the.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
First little kink that we had in the day's events
because when they go into Courtney argues this, the judge hays, no,
we're proceeding. But later in the morning the judge halts
everything and says we need to take a long recess
because we need to get clarity from the state on
whether anybody else is allowed to read this document. And
that's where things really started to get weird.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I actually air on the side of the family who
want the Menindez brothers release, in the sense that if
you were in the courtroom and you have a shot
or a chance, even though slight as it may be,
you got a chance, and I think the Menindez brothers,
against my wishes, have a.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Chance to be set free.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Now did this from what you could glean, did this continuance,
this postponement, How was that received by the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Menindez brothers and their council? Not well? Not well at all.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In fact, it was very strange to hear their defense
attorney Mark Gera goes after the fact, and we already
know he thinks the district attorney has it out for
the Menendez brothers for whatever reason, rather than just prosecuting
this case straight down the line. But it got real
intense afterwards. First of all, gart suggested that Hawkman was
(03:02):
using this document from the parole board as a weapon.
You know, some of the family members said they thought
they were going to have to testify and be cross
examined on the contents of a document no one had
ever seen before. Of course that's not going to happen
and not been admitted into court. But they were saying
this on the record with the support of their defense team.
So that was very very strange. But what ended up
(03:23):
happening was Garago's got so angry that the second kink
in the day appeared, a second motion, one that Garago
says he's going to file to have Nathan Hackman booted
off this case, to have the entire case stripped away
from the La County District Attorney's office, And he says
he's going to file that very soon. So when May
(03:44):
ninth rolls around, it won't be a hearing on whether
the Menindez brothers should be resentenced. It will be consideration
of these two issues. One, can this report from the
State Parole Board be admitted into this case involving the resentencing?
And too, should Nathan Hakman be recused from this case?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You basically answered my next question I was going to ask.
I was going to ask you how large does it
loom that is Nathan Hockman on this case and not
George Gascone, who seemingly had a very different level of
appreciation my word for the Menindez brother's story.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I think what George Gascone, the previous La County District
Excuse me, I'm sorry if my mic broke up a
little bit there. The previous LA County District Attorney saw
an opportunity for his failing reelection campaign. He saw an
increase in popularity there for the Menindez brothers because of
some Netflix broadcast, and I think he might have tried
(04:46):
to cash in a little bit as a hail Mary
to save his failing reelection campaign, and obviously didn't work.
He was trounced in the November election by Nathan Hockman.
Hakman has presided over this case in a way that
I even said to Hawkman himself that it feels a
bit like a law school class because he never just
(05:06):
comes out and releases a statement. You're always going to
be sitting there in front of him for about forty
five minutes while he meanders through all of the murky
underneath of the law and explains all of the different paths.
He did that even today. It's never right to the point,
never giving the sound bite right away that you need
to follow your story. It's always a full explanation of
(05:28):
the law. But one thing is clear, Nathan Hakman believes
Eric and Leumanandez committed a heinous crime. They murdered their
parents in cold blood. They premeditatedly murdered them. They lied
about it, They lied again about it, They lied again
about it. They had an ever evolving story, and even now,
he says, even though they're arguing that they have new
(05:50):
evidence that supports their allegations of sexual abuse and that
they acted in self defense, they have not fully owned
up to what they did to their parents in Beverly
Hills in nineteen eighty nine, and they have not expressed
a level of remorse that is sufficient to him, and
that is far different than what you saw from a
more sympathetic George Gascon.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Before we go to break, let me just ask a
question as a follow up to that, what difference does
it or should it make that the Menindez brothers show
contrition when we're talking about resentencing, we're not talking about
a parole board hearing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If that makes any difference.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It does, because again, there are three different paths that
the menindezs are currently seeking, all at the same time.
They're fighting on all fronts. Today was about resentencing. When
they were originally sentenced in nineteen ninety six, it was
to life in prison without parole. A re sentencing could
drop that down to fifty years to life, and because
(06:51):
they were under the age of twenty six at the
time of the killing, they could be eligible for immediate parole,
So that's very, very important, but one of the considerations
is their rehabilitation. One of the other avenues they're seeking
is a new trial that hasn't moved forward yet. Nathan
Hoffman also opposes that. And the third one is potential
(07:11):
clemency from Governor Newsom, which would require the involvement of
the Parole Board. And that's where today's document came from.
So now you've got a couple of these avenues intermingling
and kind of screwing with each other.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Michael Monks, you have enlightened us to such a great
degree about what seemingly was a non event today, But
there's a lot underneath just the news that the resentencing
has been postponed. I want to talk to you one
more segment. If you've got time for us. Sure, it's
Later with Mo Kelly. Cafi's own Michael Monks, who's been
reporting on the menindez Re sentencing hearing, joins us. You know,
(07:46):
join us again on the other side of the break.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's Mo Kelly and also on YouTube, atmosphere from Kelly
Live Everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. I'm right
in the middle of a conversation with kfi's own Michael Monks,
who spent the better part of the day.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We were basically pasting each other.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
In fact, Michael Monks almost hit me in the garage day,
tried to run me down.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I was mine of my own business.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I thought I had right of way walking from my
car to the stairwell, and Michael came to a screeching halt,
and you looked a little suspicious, and then he gave
me a runner and said, why am I in his path?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I didn't know we were going to have this conversation
tonight or not. Just because of that, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I am a very pedestrian conscious, though I promise you
I would not have run over you.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I might have had the thought you the long day.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, you say that because you know that all of
southern California's listening right now.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You just want to put that on the record.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I don't want to be suspected in anything, but I'm
trying to be employee of the month.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Do they still do that? I don't know. Okay, I
saw you one it once, you're still on the plot.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's one of my finest moments in my life.
I got to say that in my career. But to
be serious, we're talking about the Menindez brothers, and I
was wondering. I asked, like, does it really matter if
it's Nathan Hoffman or George Gascon And there's an argument
to be made that this might have gone very differently
if George Gascone were still our.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
La County DA.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But beyond that, when we get back on May ninth,
there's no real reason to be able to forecast how
these motions are going to play out. But do you
get a sense of any momentum after today?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I was trying to think about this, like who won today?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
And it doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like anybody did because and I'll tell you something else
that was really interesting this event. They announced that, Hey,
if you're just from the public, but you want to
sit in the courtroom and watch this, we're going to
have a lottery basically a raffle, and we'll pull the
numbers out and if your number is called, you'll have
a seat in the courtroom. And when they did this,
(09:58):
months ago when these hearings started, it was a mad house.
There were sixteen seats available today in that raffle, and
I think there were just barely more than that who
showed up for them. So the sort of allure of
this thing has worn off in terms of who's showing up.
There weren't any protesters. There was one person running around saying,
(10:21):
you know, shouting free them and indez and I think
there was a live stream involved with that, so who
knows what that person was doing. But it was not
a madhouse. It was mostly just guys like me, you know,
holding microphones with pens and notebooks and trying to report
on what was going on. But the public interest, I
don't know if it has waned, because it is still
an interesting story.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think that's indisputable.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
These guys have been part of our lives for three
decades and a lot recently after years of no one
really thinking about them, but nobody really showed up for
them today, or showed up for this event. I thought
that was the first interesting thing I saw, and then
the real interesting stuff started in the courtroom. So as
far as who won today, I don't know. I think
both parties left kind of angry. I think it got
(11:06):
kind of heated. Some of the reporting I've read from
my colleagues indicates that it got pretty heated in the courtroom.
We're challenged because if you're there on the scene, you
can't actually go into the courtroom. They take everything from you,
They take your phone from you. You can't send any
messages out. So we kind of stayed outside and waited
for updates that way, so I didn't get to see
(11:26):
the actual court. Reports indicate it got heated in there.
I think this was like if we put it into
a sports event. This was just like a bad basketball game.
Nobody was making any shots and it was just brutal.
And now we have to go to overtime and watch
more of it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Speaking of how the Menindaz brothers have been part of
our lives, even in a distance since for more than
thirty years, I wonder about the larger evolution of how
the media may impact the courtroom. What I mean by
that is I think of the free Britney movement, how
Britney spears and her.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was it, her hership conservativeship, yes, where she was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Being overseen by her family, and how that changed because
of media and also documentaries and what have you I
think about R. Kelly and how it wasn't until you
had uh these dueling documentaries talking about, you know, surviving
R Kelly, that the legal end began to change and
I can think about this and public statements made by
(12:30):
Kim Kardashian and others about the Menindez plite in their case,
and how that's led I think in great, uh great
degree to this what we're seeing now. More philosophical question,
what do you think the media has done, either done
well or even done to its own detriment to shape
what is important in the courtroom these days?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, regardless of the score you might give the media
and not really the news media, mostly the creative entertainment
media that has been created around the story of the Menindezes,
it has absolutely led us to this occasion, There's no
question about it. Have you ever imagined in your life
that a fifteen year old would suddenly become a total
stan of Eric and Lylemanindez, Right, That's only possible because
(13:16):
of this new media that existed, the documentary and the
docuseries that came out on streaming, and George Gascollan acknowledged
that Nathan Hoffman has acknowledged that, and I think the
Menindez brothers must be eternally grateful, regardless of what they
think of their portrayals. They have to be grateful that
that media exists, because it turned the tide and got them,
has gotten them this far. They may not get out,
(13:39):
but the only reason they have a fighting chance at
all is because of the rise and their profile because
of that media. What I was thinking today was, you know,
I was a kid when the Menindez brothers were in
the news, and I remember that, you know what I mean,
And I'm thinking, what if my life had kind of
stopped as I know it? But I'm still live, but
(14:00):
I'm kind of confined like they are in prison. Nineteen
ninety six was a pretty peak year. I think humanity
kind of peaked there in the mid to late nineties.
We had a little bit of Internet culture was pretty good.
I think all music genres were really at their peak.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's not a.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Bad time to like have the last memory of America. Yeah,
but I wonder what it will be like for them
if they do get out to be like nineties guys
and re released on the streets. In twenty twenty, five America.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's quite a different place.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It is not an impossibility, and I think that is
the takeaway. They have not a great chance, but more
than no chance at all. That's exactly right, Michael Monks.
We appreciate you spinning your whole life down there today,
and you'll probably do it again on May ninth.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But until that time, thank you for what you do.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Just stay out of the way of my pathfinder.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's that or or take the subway and might get
still run down by you somehow.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Someway. You know me. That is my prefer mode of transportation.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But they make me drive that company car and it's
very big and.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Scary, Yes it is. It's scared that Jesus out of
me today. Have a safe I'll probably see them all.
But if I don't see you, have a safe weekend.
You do the same, can if I am six forty
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app Ks, I'm kost
HD two Los Angeles, Orange County
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Live everywhere on the Echhart Radio app
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