January 25, 2025 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from KFI,
a M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Ron and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF. I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeart App. I'm Mark Ronner
and this is the Runner Report. The new movie from
Mel Gibson opens in theaters today, so we'll be talking
about Star Trek Section thirty one on Paramount plus Showtime
Paramount and your room at your parents' house. And I
include myself in that fairly mild insult. There's no point
(00:50):
even trying to pretend I'm not a Star Trek NERD.
You'll find me in the extras on the Star Trek
three Blu Ray interviewing the producer Harve Bennett. I out
nerded Brannon Braga, a producer and showrunner on some of
the latter day Star Trek stuff on Trivia about the
original series one night here recently, I'm putting that on
my resume. The original series is my favorite, Strange New
(01:11):
World's maybe second favorite, but it's hidden miss to me.
The new movie Section thirty one is a spinoff from
Star Trek Discovery, which I dropped and started calling STD
to some up my opinion. I wanted to like it,
but too much yammering about feelings and the like.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Still.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Section thirty one is a spy special ops type of
movie set in the Star Trek universe for the Federation.
Hell yeah, I'll take that for a test drive. Here's
some of the trailer.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
What are you doing in my space station?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm giving you a chance to get back in on
the action on a contactic scale.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
What a cute ideas. The only way this works is
if I know exactly what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Billions of lives are at sake. Gather your people who
are going to need every one of them.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Thirty one is a Black Ops division spywork. It was
just a place for people to un the rules. Starts
leaders year to make sure noone commits murder.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Whatever you believed your mission was is worse than you thought.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yes, it is worse than you thought. This stars with
Misser Michelle Yo is Philippa Georgiou from STD. Since then,
she's gone on to win an Oscar for everything, everywhere,
all at once, and that was well deserved. It was
a good vehicle for STD. I didn't think so much
as much as I revere her. Remember, she was a
big martial arts movie legend before any of this. She
doesn't need us, but the Star Trek role, I thought,
(02:46):
just didn't play to her straints. In this new Star
Trek movie. She is an evil, ruthless emperor from a
parallel universe who was brought to this one. She's recruited
to be on a secret team of assorted weirdos that
goes on secret space missions the Federation. So far, so good.
I like that formula, Dirty dozen Garrison's Guerrillas. Harlan Ellison
did a decent comic called Seven Against Chaos. I even
(03:08):
wrote one of my own for the John Carter of
Mars universe a few years back at Dynamite. I like
that formula, but this iteration gets irritating fast about twenty
minutes in. In fact, as we're introduced to this team
of oddball aliens and they bicker and give you exposition
with such painful dialogue it'll make you think an old
(03:30):
Spock and Bones argument deserves a pulitzer. Really, if you
make it past the twenty minute mark. Well done. There's
some easter eggs I liked, For instance, a minor character
who's half black and half white, like the ones in
that original series episode called Let That Be Your Last Battlefield?
Remember that it's pretty deep cut. Didn't know there was
much demand for those though, but it was cool. Remember
(03:50):
Frank Gorshen was in that episode freshly cool off being
the joker the Riddler. Rather in Batman, Caesar Romero was
the joker. It was one of the shows more on
the nose commentaries, the half black, half white people, but
if you haven't seen it, it's fun. Also in the
show in this new movie is a member of the
race of that bald chick from the first Star Trek movie,
(04:11):
That bald chick, I'm sorry, the nice bald lady. Back
in nineteen seventy nine when that movie came out, there
were far fewer bald ladies, but now they're a little
more common. I think we've got at least one in Congress.
She is not a Dalton to my knowledge. There's not
much that is really Star Trek about this movie, though,
(04:31):
apart from those easter eggs and the branding of it.
It's just a mediocre, cheap looking, derivative, poorly shot, poorly edited,
overly talkie, low rent thing like you'd see on the
sci Fi channel, or I guess they're still calling it
sci fi, aren't they. A couple of big set pieces
that are almost fun. One seems swiped right from the
beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but worse.
(04:54):
The other is from a dozen fight on the top
of train type of movie scenes. It just kind of
makes she appreciate those more. One of the team members
looks like a Vulcan but has an Irish accent. There's
a reason for that. He's controlled by some tiny space
parasite thingy and a little ship, but it doesn't outweigh
or excuse the fact that it's so irritating. Who Ever thought,
(05:15):
I know what people want to see and Irish Vulcan
who might as well be saying frosted lucky charms, they're
logically delicious. Whoever thought that needs to just please go
and do something else. This is the worst Star Trek
character ever, and it really is that kind of stereotypical accent.
I mean, why not just have a vulcan who sounds
like Mickey Rooney and Breakfast that Tiffany's while You're out
(05:36):
and no, I'm not doing that accent. Stay off the
dump button. I know where the line is. Here there's
some super doomsday mcguffin that only the diabolical Empress Georgia
can help them track down and deactivate this bickering section
thirty one. Team has to work together to get the
job done. Honestly, it's nothing you haven't seen before, and
(05:57):
better lots of times, just with special effects you could
do on a life laptop. Added, there's a space battle
that you can see was written to be exciting, but
it's so inert without the kind of memorable dance music
the old show had. It seems like all the budget
went to that guy's laptop for the effects. In fact,
this really could be any generic movie on sci fi,
or I hate to say it too be. You won't
(06:19):
carey about any of the characters whether they live or die.
The dialogue is laugh out loud bad. Here's a little
taste here. Enjoy this.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We can't call it a book like that, and we're done.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
This is chaos, Garret.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
You know you love it?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Have you let it in? Make out with it a
little It's why Stofi put you here. Chaos is the
friend of time. Nice gets.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
You ready.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
No, no, I'm not ready for this. At least not
more of it, and bring on the plasma blast. Make
out with chaos, Chaos. Did you hear that? Maybe get
to second base with chaos, my God. As a fan
of violence, I never thought i'd say this, eater, but
the fights go on too long and they're boring. I
think the creator, Gene Roddenberry, might be pleased that while
(07:09):
the country's trying to zap all its diversity and civil
rights achievements with a photon torpedo, the cast of section
thirty one is pretty diverse. But as I said when
forced onto a diversity committee at my first newspaper job,
it can be a little superficial if that's all you're
focused on. The actual substance here is missing, and what
there is is just stale. But at least they seem
(07:30):
to be promising more of it at the end. Merciful God, please,
no publicists. Here's your pull quote. If you like section
thirty one, you'll qualify for a section eight. If you
remember mash This one really makes me want to hear
Kirk's e Plebnista speech from the original episode. Put your
hands over your heart for this odd.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
We the people, that's what you call eleb Nista. Oh yeah,
for the chiefs of kings, warriors or the ritually powerful.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
But for all the people, all the people.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Down the centuries. You have slurred the meaning out of
the words we.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
The people.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
The United States, in order to form a more perfect union.
Established justice is sure, domestic frontquility, provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty
ourselves in our posterity, obtain and establish this confution.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yes, bring it home.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And I think that's a good spot to end this
week's run a report. Why wasn't he at the inauguration?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Why?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, did ever tell you about the time that I
interviewed William Shatney? Yeah, only about fifty times. Just want
to make I love that man. I love him so mo.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I know that you like Star Trek Discovery a lot
more than I did, that's fair. I don't know what
you're going to think of this movie. I think even
if you liked that show, there's just not a lot
to recommend this one. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
My interest waned in Star Trek Discovery that was pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
STD.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Midway through season three, I thought it lost its way
and ran out a story to tell.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
It seemed like it was.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Just just making up stuff and it didn't really have
the same motivation that it did in seasons one and
two that I really did like.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Sometimes it seems to me like with all the spin
offs and a lot of the later movies, they're almost
intentionally trying to avoid what made the original Star Trek
so great. And I don't understand that, oh I do.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
If you look at the original series, to me, I
think it is too slow and too cerebral for today's audiences.
You look at the movies JJ Abrams, if you look
at the TV shows in the past ten fifteen years,
far more action that I call it the Star Wars
in effect, where they want it to be more action,
(10:05):
more pewppew, and less talk.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, well maybe with the pewpwpew. But I don't agree
with you that it's slower. I think if you look
at these episodes, they pack a lot of story and
a lot of shorthand character stuff into what forty five
fifty minutes that you just don't see in the serialized
TV today and That's why I said, you're not going
to care about any of these characters. You look at
any exchange, any conversation between characters and the old one,
(10:29):
and they reveal so much. These were good writers, the
professional sci fi writers that they had at work on this,
and these these latter day guys. I think what they
read save the Cat once and it's like, here's your script.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Uh yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think that argument can be made for much of
television as a whole. There's not as much care given
to character development, dialogue, or it's just storytelling.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This seems to me like a real waste. I mean,
how could you go wrong with a spy special ops
team show set in the Star Trek universe. We know
that Kirk and Spock and whoever else on the original
show they went on secret missions pretty often, right, Imagine
having a whole movie and possible series devoted to that.
But man, did they fumble the ball or whatever is
(11:17):
used in place of a ball in the twenty third century.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, that was probably the part of the problem in
Star Trek discovered the series without giving too much away,
it jumped around from century to century to millennium on
the show.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And I'll also never forgive what they did with the
Guardian of Forever from that great original series episode called
Sitting on the Edge of Forever.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They just made it some dude.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, but that's part of the reason I would say
the the oh, let.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Me put it like this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Part of streaming it's good because you can get more content.
The bad is you get lazier content sometimes. Yeah, quality
controls definitely an issue. When we come back, we'll have
more from Mark Bronner. He doesn't even know this, I'll
tell you why.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Look, we have to promote your appearance tomorrow.
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I'd better hurry with the news.
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Yes, yes, and that's one thing I do remember about
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to cover and you have to start making decisions about
what you can cover, you have time to cover if
there's going to be an interview, and then you realize
there's never enough time.
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Two hours goes by really fast, faster than you would think.
It's like, you know, being on the event horizon of
a black hole. You think it's two seconds, but then
you come out and everybody's aged seven years, you know.
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So tomorrow night at seven pm, Mark Ronner will be hosting.
Have you given any thoughts to the name of your show?
It's called filling in for Michael Monks.
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And think of it like remember the old Threes Company show,
Come in, Knock on My Door? Remember when the Ropers
got their spin off and that tanked, But they'd already
replaced him with Don Knatson, so and so those actors
were out of a job. That's how I'm thinking about
tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
This is how well I know Norman Fell Audra Linley, Yes, exactly, yeah,
And they were both very accomplished in their own right
before they even had Threes Come.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Norman Fell was famous for cop rolls. Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
In fact, he was the original sidekick to the girl
from Uncle.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Had a long and illustrious career.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And then look what happened when he thought he was
big enough to go out on his own. Actually that
wasn't even his decision. He was made to do that.
But that's how I'm thinking of tomorrow. It's been nice
knowing everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, I'm going to be listening in because you're a
wealth of knowledge or walking encyclopedia. I do not say
that for hyperbole. You know it's true, and I just
like hearing you on the radar. I want to hear
you more. I appreciate that and the pressure.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Something that I've realized is that since I've been doing
this news job, I've also been a show host in Seattle,
but I've become much more of a responder and a
reactor and kind of a bomb thrower.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Than I used to be.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Whereas he you know, you as the host, are the initiator,
and you'll throw things to me, and you'll people don't
know that I don't usually know what you're gonna say
or talk about. A lot of the times I'll be
handed a very sparse rundown, but sometimes I don't have
time to look at it because I'm racing to prepare
the news. So it's kind of funny. Are back and forth,
(16:14):
if you know the behind the scenes stuff that you've
spent quite a bit of time before the show preparing,
and then you just kind of drop stuff on me
and watch me react.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Intentionally just because I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You might just blow up the show or get myself
fired or get the station's licensee well, all the above.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
D yeah, none so far.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, but we always have fun, and so I'm going
to actually miss having the whole crew with me there tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Well, I'll be listening in.
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Could you come in?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Actually I could, but I wouldn't ever do that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I mean, I need you to drive back into the
office with Tawala and you know we're gonna have a
board up tomorrow. But Fush, you might as well come
to Okay, Well, are you gonna buy food for all
of us?
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Absolutely not? You know what I make?
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Okay, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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We have zero bliss, completely blissless.
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You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from KFI,
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture.
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Ron and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF. I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeart App. I'm Mark Ronner
and this is the Runner Report. The new movie from
Mel Gibson opens in theaters today, so we'll be talking
about Star Trek Section thirty one on Paramount plus Showtime
Paramount and your room at your parents' house. And I
include myself in that fairly mild insult. There's no point
(00:50):
even trying to pretend I'm not a Star Trek NERD.
You'll find me in the extras on the Star Trek
three Blu Ray interviewing the producer Harve Bennett. I out
nerded Brannon Braga, a producer and showrunner on some of
the latter day Star Trek stuff on Trivia about the
original series one night here recently, I'm putting that on
my resume. The original series is my favorite, Strange New
(01:11):
World's maybe second favorite, but it's hidden miss to me.
The new movie Section thirty one is a spinoff from
Star Trek Discovery, which I dropped and started calling STD
to some up my opinion. I wanted to like it,
but too much yammering about feelings and the like.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Still.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Section thirty one is a spy special ops type of
movie set in the Star Trek universe for the Federation.
Hell yeah, I'll take that for a test drive. Here's
some of the trailer.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
What are you doing in my space station?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm giving you a chance to get back in on
the action on a contactic scale.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
What a cute ideas. The only way this works is
if I know exactly what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Billions of lives are at sake. Gather your people who
are going to need every one of them.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Thirty one is a Black Ops division spywork. It was
just a place for people to un the rules. Starts
leaders year to make sure noone commits murder.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Whatever you believed your mission was is worse than you thought.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yes, it is worse than you thought. This stars with
Misser Michelle Yo is Philippa Georgiou from STD. Since then,
she's gone on to win an Oscar for everything, everywhere,
all at once, and that was well deserved. It was
a good vehicle for STD. I didn't think so much
as much as I revere her. Remember, she was a
big martial arts movie legend before any of this. She
doesn't need us, but the Star Trek role, I thought,
(02:46):
just didn't play to her straints. In this new Star
Trek movie. She is an evil, ruthless emperor from a
parallel universe who was brought to this one. She's recruited
to be on a secret team of assorted weirdos that
goes on secret space missions the Federation. So far, so good.
I like that formula, Dirty dozen Garrison's Guerrillas. Harlan Ellison
did a decent comic called Seven Against Chaos. I even
(03:08):
wrote one of my own for the John Carter of
Mars universe a few years back at Dynamite. I like
that formula, but this iteration gets irritating fast about twenty
minutes in. In fact, as we're introduced to this team
of oddball aliens and they bicker and give you exposition
with such painful dialogue it'll make you think an old
(03:30):
Spock and Bones argument deserves a pulitzer. Really, if you
make it past the twenty minute mark. Well done. There's
some easter eggs I liked, For instance, a minor character
who's half black and half white, like the ones in
that original series episode called Let That Be Your Last Battlefield?
Remember that it's pretty deep cut. Didn't know there was
much demand for those though, but it was cool. Remember
(03:50):
Frank Gorshen was in that episode freshly cool off being
the joker the Riddler. Rather in Batman, Caesar Romero was
the joker. It was one of the shows more on
the nose commentaries, the half black, half white people, but
if you haven't seen it, it's fun. Also in the
show in this new movie is a member of the
race of that bald chick from the first Star Trek movie,
(04:11):
That bald chick, I'm sorry, the nice bald lady. Back
in nineteen seventy nine when that movie came out, there
were far fewer bald ladies, but now they're a little
more common. I think we've got at least one in Congress.
She is not a Dalton to my knowledge. There's not
much that is really Star Trek about this movie, though,
(04:31):
apart from those easter eggs and the branding of it.
It's just a mediocre, cheap looking, derivative, poorly shot, poorly edited,
overly talkie, low rent thing like you'd see on the
sci Fi channel, or I guess they're still calling it
sci fi, aren't they. A couple of big set pieces
that are almost fun. One seems swiped right from the
beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but worse.
(04:54):
The other is from a dozen fight on the top
of train type of movie scenes. It just kind of
makes she appreciate those more. One of the team members
looks like a Vulcan but has an Irish accent. There's
a reason for that. He's controlled by some tiny space
parasite thingy and a little ship, but it doesn't outweigh
or excuse the fact that it's so irritating. Who Ever thought,
(05:15):
I know what people want to see and Irish Vulcan
who might as well be saying frosted lucky charms, they're
logically delicious. Whoever thought that needs to just please go
and do something else. This is the worst Star Trek
character ever, and it really is that kind of stereotypical accent.
I mean, why not just have a vulcan who sounds
like Mickey Rooney and Breakfast that Tiffany's while You're out
(05:36):
and no, I'm not doing that accent. Stay off the
dump button. I know where the line is. Here there's
some super doomsday mcguffin that only the diabolical Empress Georgia
can help them track down and deactivate this bickering section
thirty one. Team has to work together to get the
job done. Honestly, it's nothing you haven't seen before, and
(05:57):
better lots of times, just with special effects you could
do on a life laptop. Added, there's a space battle
that you can see was written to be exciting, but
it's so inert without the kind of memorable dance music
the old show had. It seems like all the budget
went to that guy's laptop for the effects. In fact,
this really could be any generic movie on sci fi,
or I hate to say it too be. You won't
(06:19):
carey about any of the characters whether they live or die.
The dialogue is laugh out loud bad. Here's a little
taste here. Enjoy this.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We can't call it a book like that, and we're done.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
This is chaos, Garret.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
You know you love it?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Have you let it in? Make out with it a
little It's why Stofi put you here. Chaos is the
friend of time. Nice gets.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
You ready.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
No, no, I'm not ready for this. At least not
more of it, and bring on the plasma blast. Make
out with chaos, Chaos. Did you hear that? Maybe get
to second base with chaos, my God. As a fan
of violence, I never thought i'd say this, eater, but
the fights go on too long and they're boring. I
think the creator, Gene Roddenberry, might be pleased that while
(07:09):
the country's trying to zap all its diversity and civil
rights achievements with a photon torpedo, the cast of section
thirty one is pretty diverse. But as I said when
forced onto a diversity committee at my first newspaper job,
it can be a little superficial if that's all you're
focused on. The actual substance here is missing, and what
there is is just stale. But at least they seem
(07:30):
to be promising more of it at the end. Merciful God, please,
no publicists. Here's your pull quote. If you like section
thirty one, you'll qualify for a section eight. If you
remember mash This one really makes me want to hear
Kirk's e Plebnista speech from the original episode. Put your
hands over your heart for this odd.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
We the people, that's what you call eleb Nista. Oh yeah,
for the chiefs of kings, warriors or the ritually powerful.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
But for all the people, all the people.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Down the centuries. You have slurred the meaning out of
the words we.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
The people.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
The United States, in order to form a more perfect union.
Established justice is sure, domestic frontquility, provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty
ourselves in our posterity, obtain and establish this confution.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yes, bring it home.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And I think that's a good spot to end this
week's run a report. Why wasn't he at the inauguration?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Why?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, did ever tell you about the time that I
interviewed William Shatney? Yeah, only about fifty times. Just want
to make I love that man. I love him so mo.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I know that you like Star Trek Discovery a lot
more than I did, that's fair. I don't know what
you're going to think of this movie. I think even
if you liked that show, there's just not a lot
to recommend this one. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
My interest waned in Star Trek Discovery that was pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
STD.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Midway through season three, I thought it lost its way
and ran out a story to tell.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
It seemed like it was.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Just just making up stuff and it didn't really have
the same motivation that it did in seasons one and
two that I really did like.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Sometimes it seems to me like with all the spin
offs and a lot of the later movies, they're almost
intentionally trying to avoid what made the original Star Trek
so great. And I don't understand that, oh I do.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
If you look at the original series, to me, I
think it is too slow and too cerebral for today's audiences.
You look at the movies JJ Abrams, if you look
at the TV shows in the past ten fifteen years,
far more action that I call it the Star Wars
in effect, where they want it to be more action,
(10:05):
more pewppew, and less talk.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, well maybe with the pewpwpew. But I don't agree
with you that it's slower. I think if you look
at these episodes, they pack a lot of story and
a lot of shorthand character stuff into what forty five
fifty minutes that you just don't see in the serialized
TV today and That's why I said, you're not going
to care about any of these characters. You look at
any exchange, any conversation between characters and the old one,
(10:29):
and they reveal so much. These were good writers, the
professional sci fi writers that they had at work on this,
and these these latter day guys. I think what they
read save the Cat once and it's like, here's your script.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Uh yeah, I think that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think that argument can be made for much of
television as a whole. There's not as much care given
to character development, dialogue, or it's just storytelling.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This seems to me like a real waste. I mean,
how could you go wrong with a spy special ops
team show set in the Star Trek universe. We know
that Kirk and Spock and whoever else on the original
show they went on secret missions pretty often, right, Imagine
having a whole movie and possible series devoted to that.
But man, did they fumble the ball or whatever is
(11:17):
used in place of a ball in the twenty third century.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, that was probably the part of the problem in
Star Trek discovered the series without giving too much away,
it jumped around from century to century to millennium on
the show.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And I'll also never forgive what they did with the
Guardian of Forever from that great original series episode called
Sitting on the Edge of Forever.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They just made it some dude.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, but that's part of the reason I would say
the the oh, let.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Me put it like this.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Part of streaming it's good because you can get more content.
The bad is you get lazier content sometimes. Yeah, quality
controls definitely an issue. When we come back, we'll have
more from Mark Bronner. He doesn't even know this, I'll
tell you why.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, Look, we have to promote your appearance tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I'd better hurry with the news.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
The phone lines are now open.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
The phone lines are now open k I AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app Let's get ready
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Speaker 5 (12:56):
They're just really.
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(13:17):
and Twala is awaiting your call Tomorrow night from seven
pm to nine pm. Mark Ronner will be hosting here
on KFI and Mark, have you given any thought to
what types of material you want to recover tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We're just gonna stick to fun, nothing heavy, nothing serious,
definitely no politics. We'll have somebody on to talk about
a comedy charity that is raising money for people affected
by the wildfires. We're gonna talk about the and probably
argue about the Oscar nominations and the Razzie nominations, and
that right there will take up a good chunk.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, yes, and that's one thing I do remember about
just being on the weekends. There's so much you want
to cover and you have to start making decisions about
what you can cover, you have time to cover if
there's going to be an interview, and then you realize
there's never enough time.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Two hours goes by really fast, faster than you would think.
It's like, you know, being on the event horizon of
a black hole. You think it's two seconds, but then
you come out and everybody's aged seven years, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So tomorrow night at seven pm, Mark Ronner will be hosting.
Have you given any thoughts to the name of your show?
It's called filling in for Michael Monks.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And think of it like remember the old Threes Company show,
Come in, Knock on My Door? Remember when the Ropers
got their spin off and that tanked, But they'd already
replaced him with Don Knatson, so and so those actors
were out of a job. That's how I'm thinking about
tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
This is how well I know Norman Fell Audra Linley, Yes, exactly, yeah,
And they were both very accomplished in their own right
before they even had Threes Come.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Norman Fell was famous for cop rolls. Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
In fact, he was the original sidekick to the girl
from Uncle.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Had a long and illustrious career.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And then look what happened when he thought he was
big enough to go out on his own. Actually that
wasn't even his decision. He was made to do that.
But that's how I'm thinking of tomorrow. It's been nice
knowing everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Well, I'm going to be listening in because you're a
wealth of knowledge or walking encyclopedia. I do not say
that for hyperbole. You know it's true, and I just
like hearing you on the radar. I want to hear
you more. I appreciate that and the pressure.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Something that I've realized is that since I've been doing
this news job, I've also been a show host in Seattle,
but I've become much more of a responder and a
reactor and kind of a bomb thrower.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Than I used to be.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Whereas he you know, you as the host, are the initiator,
and you'll throw things to me, and you'll people don't
know that I don't usually know what you're gonna say
or talk about. A lot of the times I'll be
handed a very sparse rundown, but sometimes I don't have
time to look at it because I'm racing to prepare
the news. So it's kind of funny. Are back and forth,
(16:14):
if you know the behind the scenes stuff that you've
spent quite a bit of time before the show preparing,
and then you just kind of drop stuff on me
and watch me react.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Intentionally just because I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
You might just blow up the show or get myself
fired or get the station's licensee well, all the above.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
D yeah, none so far.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, but we always have fun, and so I'm going
to actually miss having the whole crew with me there tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Well, I'll be listening in.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Could you come in?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Actually I could, but I wouldn't ever do that.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I mean, I need you to drive back into the
office with Tawala and you know we're gonna have a
board up tomorrow. But Fush, you might as well come
to Okay, Well, are you gonna buy food for all
of us?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Absolutely not? You know what I make?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Okay, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
We have zero bliss, completely blissless.
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