April 26, 2025 • 10 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – The Rahner Report’s review of the hit Disney+ Star Wars series “Andor: Season 2” AND a heartfelt plea to help support the GoFundMe campaign for writer, screenwriter, and director Donald F. Glut (Land of the Lost, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, DuckTales, G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero and many more) in overcoming serious financial loss caused by identity theft - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Natu Key Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture, Ron
and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Kf I YouTube Later with Mo Kelly, Mark Ronner, Take
It Away. The second and final season of and Or
has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC
running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It came with you to be part of something the
Empire cannot weird. It's a different kind of mission. If
(01:04):
it goes a big flames, it will burn very brightly.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,
we have to.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We must stand together.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
We will be crushed.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Resistance System sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The monster will come for us. All evolution is not
for the same. You're right here and you're ready to fight.
There's a future here for those who dare.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Welcome to the rebellion.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So we got to talk about and Our season two,
but no go up front. I don't absolutely love all
Star Wars. I think maybe half of what's out there
is watchable. And before the market was flooded with more
Star Wars, movies and shows and cartoons. It got by
on sheer goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty,
which was the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful,
The Three Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue
(02:20):
One were great fun and nerds can debate this stuff
instead of experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over
and above all that, I don't love Star Wars because
I like science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction
from the minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven
and for decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone
wants to replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the
level of what children would sit through, starting with noises
(02:43):
and dogfights in space, Darth Vader being the most on
the nose, Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the
list goes on. And if you want to argue about
Darth Vader, having a bad guy with that name is
about as remedial as having a home record character named
Sluttie mccorrington. But one of the good things about having
a glut of Star Wars stuff to watch is that
(03:04):
there's now a little something out there for everyone, and
and or, well it's not and or part of the
conjunction junction cartoon and conjunction junctions.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
What damption?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I got.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Pretty far?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but
or I mean and or No, Bud. It's a smart
show for people not completely stuck in their ten year
old selves. And it's got a lot going on, here's
the deal. Rogue One came out nine years ago and
it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie
about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death
Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting
it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like
(03:42):
taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum,
but whatever. And Rogue One was based on a reference
from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle
Rebels spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at
the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a
new hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf
(04:03):
of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to
be Star Wars and even though I'm against the strip
mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,
and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie.
Rogue One was a real shot in the arm, lots
of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,
which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian and Or,
(04:24):
who we know is going to die in Rogue one
as he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays
and Or, and despite the fact that the show's named
and Or, he's just part of an ensemble of characters
and storylines and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about
the show. Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's
a sort of a spy and spy handler. He's always
been a heavyweight, and it's really cool to see somebody
(04:44):
with his chops do a show like this. It's sort
of like seeing Richard Burton pop up in an old
Batman episode. And no, that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee, Sure, yeah.
Listen to this clip from the first season when somebody
Luthen is sending out on a mission has been to
ask him what he's sacrificed, And what do you sacrifice?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Calm, kindness, kinship, love. I've given up all chance at
inner peace. I made my mind a sunless face. I
share my dreams with ghosts.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
I wake up every day to an equation I wrote
fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They
set me on a path from which there's no escape.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I yearned to be.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
A savior against injustice without contemplating the cost, and by
the time I look down.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
There's no longer any ground beneath my What is my sacrifice?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I've condemned to use the tools of my enemy to
defeat them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I burn my decency for someone else's future.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I burn my life to make a sunrise that I
know i'll never see now.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
The eagle that started this fight will never have a mirror, or.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
An audio or the light of gratitudes. So what do
I sacrifice?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I just
asked a basic question. When I say, and or himself
is sometimes the least interesting part of the show. He
spends in the first two episodes of this new season
getting his ass captured and doing nothing. The intrigue has
taking place elsewhere, particularly on a different planet where man Mathma,
not a Kaiju, is getting over getting her She's running
(06:55):
her daughter's wedding and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff
that could get her killed. And there's a scene of
her getting so spooked by the danger she's in that
she gets high as f and is dancing by herself
at the wedding pretty inspired. Tony Gilroy is the creator
and head writer of and Or, and he's one of
those guys whose name means you watch whatever he's got out.
Along with co writing Rogue One, he wrote some of
the Bourne movies, directed one of them, and also one
(07:17):
of my favorite movies of this century, Michael Clayton in
two thousand and seven. I've only seen the first three
episodes that are available of and Or, but I'm in
for the duration, and critics who have seen the whole
season in advance have high praise for where things go.
The elephant in the room that people are buzzing about
is that this is Star Wars with some seriously edgier content,
which includes the first Star Wars attempted rape of a character,
(07:38):
at least I think it's the first. I never trusted
jar Jar kind of a creep.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and
I get out of here.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
No, no, missy, missy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Ever won't be necessary. Well done, and if there's more
than that, if you've got the nerve to google, but beware. Okay,
I'm not going to spoil any more than that by
saying who or what are under what circumstances this happens.
But it's appropriate. It fits with what we know about
occupying empires in the real world. It fits with Russians
in Ukraine, it fits with Nazis. We're always going to
(08:12):
have the Ewoks. But this is more complex material about
resistance against a tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it,
the cost of it, and also how people within the
empire are seduced by power and do things they know
are evil. So I'm all in frand or and the
Rise of Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here.
You may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but
(08:34):
he's best known for being a part of the Star
Wars family as the author of the Empire Strikes Back
novelization and a million other things from Shazam and Land
of the Loss on tv x men, tons of comics.
I don't know Don real well, but we've been at
some signings together conventions We've talked. Earlier this month, Don
Glute posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft
(08:54):
and was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,
and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding
if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's
in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time
to start from scratch. See what you think. You can
read the details by searching for gofund me and support
Donald F. Glute glut in Overcoming Financial Loss. That should
(09:15):
be on your screen right now if you're watching online,
enigmatically titled I Know I've been scanned before myself and
it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever
as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling
or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session
seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student loan people will
be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps
very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help
(09:38):
you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can
have him on the show to talk about some of
the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon
from the eighties. That's your honor. Report. Further deponent saith
not mo i, saith nothing okay, Mark
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six meter
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Natu Key Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture, Ron
and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Kf I YouTube Later with Mo Kelly, Mark Ronner, Take
It Away. The second and final season of and Or
has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC
running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It came with you to be part of something the
Empire cannot weird. It's a different kind of mission. If
(01:04):
it goes a big flames, it will burn very brightly.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,
we have to.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We must stand together.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
We will be crushed.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Resistance System sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The monster will come for us. All evolution is not
for the same. You're right here and you're ready to fight.
There's a future here for those who dare.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Welcome to the rebellion.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So we got to talk about and Our season two,
but no go up front. I don't absolutely love all
Star Wars. I think maybe half of what's out there
is watchable. And before the market was flooded with more
Star Wars, movies and shows and cartoons. It got by
on sheer goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty,
which was the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful,
The Three Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue
(02:20):
One were great fun and nerds can debate this stuff
instead of experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over
and above all that, I don't love Star Wars because
I like science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction
from the minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven
and for decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone
wants to replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the
level of what children would sit through, starting with noises
(02:43):
and dogfights in space, Darth Vader being the most on
the nose, Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the
list goes on. And if you want to argue about
Darth Vader, having a bad guy with that name is
about as remedial as having a home record character named
Sluttie mccorrington. But one of the good things about having
a glut of Star Wars stuff to watch is that
(03:04):
there's now a little something out there for everyone, and
and or, well it's not and or part of the
conjunction junction cartoon and conjunction junctions.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
What damption?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I got.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Pretty far?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but
or I mean and or No, Bud. It's a smart
show for people not completely stuck in their ten year
old selves. And it's got a lot going on, here's
the deal. Rogue One came out nine years ago and
it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie
about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death
Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting
it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like
(03:42):
taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum,
but whatever. And Rogue One was based on a reference
from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle
Rebels spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at
the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a
new hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf
(04:03):
of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to
be Star Wars and even though I'm against the strip
mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,
and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie.
Rogue One was a real shot in the arm, lots
of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,
which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian and Or,
(04:24):
who we know is going to die in Rogue one
as he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays
and Or, and despite the fact that the show's named
and Or, he's just part of an ensemble of characters
and storylines and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about
the show. Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's
a sort of a spy and spy handler. He's always
been a heavyweight, and it's really cool to see somebody
(04:44):
with his chops do a show like this. It's sort
of like seeing Richard Burton pop up in an old
Batman episode. And no, that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee, Sure, yeah.
Listen to this clip from the first season when somebody
Luthen is sending out on a mission has been to
ask him what he's sacrificed, And what do you sacrifice?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Calm, kindness, kinship, love. I've given up all chance at
inner peace. I made my mind a sunless face. I
share my dreams with ghosts.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
I wake up every day to an equation I wrote
fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They
set me on a path from which there's no escape.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I yearned to be.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
A savior against injustice without contemplating the cost, and by
the time I look down.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
There's no longer any ground beneath my What is my sacrifice?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I've condemned to use the tools of my enemy to
defeat them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I burn my decency for someone else's future.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I burn my life to make a sunrise that I
know i'll never see now.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
The eagle that started this fight will never have a mirror, or.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
An audio or the light of gratitudes. So what do
I sacrifice?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I just
asked a basic question. When I say, and or himself
is sometimes the least interesting part of the show. He
spends in the first two episodes of this new season
getting his ass captured and doing nothing. The intrigue has
taking place elsewhere, particularly on a different planet where man Mathma,
not a Kaiju, is getting over getting her She's running
(06:55):
her daughter's wedding and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff
that could get her killed. And there's a scene of
her getting so spooked by the danger she's in that
she gets high as f and is dancing by herself
at the wedding pretty inspired. Tony Gilroy is the creator
and head writer of and Or, and he's one of
those guys whose name means you watch whatever he's got out.
Along with co writing Rogue One, he wrote some of
the Bourne movies, directed one of them, and also one
(07:17):
of my favorite movies of this century, Michael Clayton in
two thousand and seven. I've only seen the first three
episodes that are available of and Or, but I'm in
for the duration, and critics who have seen the whole
season in advance have high praise for where things go.
The elephant in the room that people are buzzing about
is that this is Star Wars with some seriously edgier content,
which includes the first Star Wars attempted rape of a character,
(07:38):
at least I think it's the first. I never trusted
jar Jar kind of a creep.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and
I get out of here.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
No, no, missy, missy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Ever won't be necessary. Well done, and if there's more
than that, if you've got the nerve to google, but beware. Okay,
I'm not going to spoil any more than that by
saying who or what are under what circumstances this happens.
But it's appropriate. It fits with what we know about
occupying empires in the real world. It fits with Russians
in Ukraine, it fits with Nazis. We're always going to
(08:12):
have the Ewoks. But this is more complex material about
resistance against a tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it,
the cost of it, and also how people within the
empire are seduced by power and do things they know
are evil. So I'm all in frand or and the
Rise of Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here.
You may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but
(08:34):
he's best known for being a part of the Star
Wars family as the author of the Empire Strikes Back
novelization and a million other things from Shazam and Land
of the Loss on tv x men, tons of comics.
I don't know Don real well, but we've been at
some signings together conventions We've talked. Earlier this month, Don
Glute posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft
(08:54):
and was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,
and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding
if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's
in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time
to start from scratch. See what you think. You can
read the details by searching for gofund me and support
Donald F. Glute glut in Overcoming Financial Loss. That should
(09:15):
be on your screen right now if you're watching online,
enigmatically titled I Know I've been scanned before myself and
it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever
as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling
or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session
seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student loan people will
be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps
very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help
(09:38):
you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can
have him on the show to talk about some of
the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon
from the eighties. That's your honor. Report. Further deponent saith
not mo i, saith nothing okay, Mark
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six meter
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