May 30, 2025 • 27 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – “The Sex Doctor Is In” Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352) PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality delving into “sex in outer space” … PLUS – A look at new research that shows cannabis is bad for your heart - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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participated in that unfiltered commercial break conversation, which we're going
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make of our conversation?
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I love those kind of conversations.
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I'm glad we get to share the off air conversations
now with viewers on YouTube right because a lot of
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The conversation we just had was hilarious adult.
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I wish I could do right. Yeah, listener discretion advice, yes, Yes,
what do you want to talk about tonight? In the
world of sex, romance and relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Well, I was looking. I like looking at different academic
studies that come out. That's just me. I'm a nerd.
I saw one a couple months ago. It was a
study about if there were any behavioral changes based on
sex and lab rats who were exposed to radiation in space,
and what it found was that radiation exposure in space
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space radiation exposure to lab rats led to female rats
having more risk taking behavior and similar similar risk taking
behavior in male rats, but they spent more time in
deliberation before making choices.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
If I understand you correctly, that rats make radiation space
radiation will make rats freakier potentially, yeah, and be willing
to do more things.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Take more risks, and have their inhibitions pulled down.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's kind of like, I don't know, some sort of aphrodisiac.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Maybe maybe now they do have a thing in space.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Astronaut reported it called the Viagra effect, where being in
zero gravity or microgravity led to ease of arousal, and
then that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Would seem like it would be more difficult to force
blood to move in a particular direction when it doesn't
have gravity working as it normally would.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, our body I don't know if you know this,
but if we're upside down, we can still get aroused.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I only know that from like being under a pool table.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But yeah, okay, so zero G gravity isn't going to
have too much of an effect as far as our
ability to get aroused. It may actually increase our billit like,
it may actually increase it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It just seems like the zero G would get in
the way of rhythm motion sometimes. You how can I
say this? Yes, I need some sort of resistance to
push against put it that way exactly. That's the big
thing here. Now let's talk about some ideas.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
First off, we're both really big movie nerds and stuff
like that. Can you think of any movies that have
had sex scenes in it that were in zero gravity? Yes,
moon Breaker, thank you, that was one of them that
I had on my list. Barberella was another one. Aside
from that, You've had a bunch of scenes that are
sex in space. I usually like Captain Kirk on place
where gravity is a thing. Okay, Now, to create gravity
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you need centrifical force, if you like correct. Currently, there's
nothing as far as I know, in the Space program
where they're actively promoting and trying to create centrifical force
to create artificial gravity in space at this moment. So
what happens if there's like a giant space asteroid that's
coming now and we don't have this gravity and we
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need to find a way to jump off of this
rock and be able to procreate our way into deep
space into the next habitable place. So that's where the
idea of sex and space becomes actually pertinent.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And there's a.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Field of sex studies called space sexology, which I'm very
interested in. I almost did my dissertation on this topic.
I held off because peorign studies was way better. But yeah,
what happens that we have to jump off of this
planet and aside from protecting ourselves from the radiation of
space which can totally sterilize us, there's a lot of
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issues that can happen when you try to procreate in
outer space. There was an Australian company that made a
suit called the two Suit. It was a velcrow scrap
that held a couple together for them to be around it,
like physically next to each other long enough to be
able to have sex, kind.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Of like Velcrow is always somewhere connected to sex always.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, maybe it's just making never mind, you know, depending
on various you know, positions that you get actors.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Now, there have been some attempts from like porn companies.
Pornhub tried to crowdsource something where they could actually film
a scene in space. It was unsuccessful. Virgin Galactic rejected
a one million dollar offer to shoot a scene in space. Now,
the closest thing that we have come to it is
that there was a scene shot in the Vomit Comet,
one of those planes that does the up and down
where you can simulate zero gravity.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So they're only.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Able to get like a twenty second, one single twenty
second scene, not enough to really, you know, do anything
fun too anyways, So if we don't have there's also
other issues like as far as like, if you're gonna
try to have sex in zero gravity, what's gonna happen
physiologically to the human body?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Does it let me jump in there?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Does it impact the ability of the swimmers to swim?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It does not. They haven't done any so far.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
No sex pro or no space program in the world
is willing to acknowledge whatever experiments that they've done. Human wise, However,
they have been able to have various animals pro create
in space, so the ability of semen to find an
egg is still present in zero gravity, just they've tested
it out on animals and first first animal to mate
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in space successfully was a fish that was galactic sushi
in nineteen ninety four. Let's see here experiments in nineteen
ninety five not done by NASA, by a foreign space
program in nineteen ninety five done on lab rats. They
found their rats born here on Earth, but they are
They go to space and then have a baby in space.
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Those babies lose the ability to roll back onto their
feet when they're placed on their back. It's like how
with cats, you know, they land on their feet. Rats
have very delicate spinal columns, and they lose that ability
to land on their feet when they're upside down. The
part of it is because they lose the spatial awareness
because they're so used to being in zero gravity. But
when they come back to Earth, those specific rats, when
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they procreate and they have another lineage, their children end
up having some what would be called developmental issues here
on Earth, but actually, when you think about it in
the context of zero gravity, they may be more optimalized
to function in space.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It almost sounds like there will be an evolutionary impact
from the very first generation of procreation in space for
the human species most likely.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, now this is as far as like you want
not just like sex and space, but procreation in space. Yeah,
we're thinking long term, long distance traveling. If we're in
an emergency and we don't have the ability to get
gravity artificially created. This is what our reality is going
to be. Where if you extend that idea over one generation,
it had these developmental issues here on Earth when they
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came back to Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
If you have to.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Go generation to generation in space with zero gravity, you're
going to see what some of the issues that you
see the effects of weightlessness or microgravity on the human body,
diminished bone density, heart muscle starts to lose mass, muscles
in general lose mass. Basically, if you extend that over generations, five,
six generations, you'll have decreased and diminished bone density and
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muscle mass. You'll have something that's much more optimalized to
function in zero gravity and have the bone density to
push the buttons that need to be pushed on spaceship
to keep them alive and to procreate.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, our muscles only mean something with respect to gravity
and resistance.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Resistance.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, when we come back, we'll have more with
doctor sam Zia.
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we're right in the mid of a conversation with the sex
doctor Sam Zea, who is in in the last segment. Sam,
we were talking about some of the realities of sex
and space, some of the scientific studies which have been
conducted with regard to animals and procreation, sexual behavior in space.
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How do you think it to the best of your knowledge,
how do you think this is going to be utilized
in the future in the near term because we have
privatized space exploration. Yeah, we go upon above the common line,
not all that often. But you have bezos, you have
SpaceX where now regular people like you and me, if
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we have I don't know, five hundred thousand dollars or so,
we could go to space as well. How long before
space is commercialized do you think where they will We'll
have the mal High Club and we'll have the sixty
two mile High Club.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I'm guessing it won't be too long.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It's not lost on me that Elon named his company
SpaceX and Jeff Bezos ship looks like a Yeah, it's
like the scene from Austin Powers.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Really it does. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's a little long
the nose if you want to use that term. But yes,
it's obvious.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But I think we're gonna we are on the doorstep
of it because as much as people like to shame
sex and sexuality, it still sells, and there's going to
be people who visually want to see what it will
look like. So I'm getting the feeling and we've seen
I mentioned the porn company that created the zero gravity scene.
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It was a twenty second scene filmed in the Vomit
comet and it was called the Uranus Experiment Part two
in case you want to look it up.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Of course it is, of course it is. So that's
the thing is that there's already a market for it.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
More and more people are going as you know, technology
develops and more exploration, commercial exploration into sec or into
space happens, You're gonna see that get sexualized.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And it really it does kind of cater to the
idea of if we do have to, you know, the
fantasy of having to escape the planet and and pro
create and you know, keep the species going over an
extended period of time. I mean, they make movies, bad
movies about this, but they also there's a couple of
decent films in there as well.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We were having fun with this, but by and large,
America is reticent to have any type of real conversations
about sex. We are an uptight society, We are an
uptight nation. And you don't know how uptight we are
until you travel, until you see the world. Go to
Europe for a while. They're not one tenth this up
time as we are. From what you see on TV
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to what you see on a on.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
A beach topless beach.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Do you think that America will catch up to the
rest of the world in these the discussions at any point.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It's not going to do it necessarily publicly, considering how
much sex and sexuality ashamed, but it's going to be
done in private. When I mean, before the Internet, you
had a lot of people, you know, just keeping to
themselves and keeping their kinks to themselves. After the Internet,
those kinks had their own communities created where they get
to reach out and touch each other, and they're very
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happy to do sir, what you did there?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So now you're going to have that same idea where
people are going to there's going to be a community
for it no matter what, and they're going to be
able to reach out and touch one another. Whether it's
going to be something that they publicly cheer about and
say this is something that I'm all about and they
make it a big spectacle, or if they just keep
it in the privacy of their own home.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Do you think that we are uptight as a nation
because I wouldn't say that America is more religious than
other nations. You have nations which are actual theocracies. But
I would say a place like Italy is more religious
than the United States and any number of European countries.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Even England is.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
More religious than the United States. To what would you
attribute our uptightness.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It does go down to like old old fashioned puritanism
and shame a lot of times, and you'll see it,
and not just out here in America. It's the same
with religious a lot of religions and countries that are
you know, based their foundation off of religions. A lot
of times will use the shame of sex and sexuality
to control a population and to make it like a
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great example of that as Iran, where they use sex
and sexuality as a deep sense of shame surrounding it
so that people so they can control the behaviors of people,
say for eas ample who are gay, where you know,
the options for them are very limited either you know,
get out of the country, escape the country, get sexual
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reassignment surgery, or stay in hiding or pick you know,
or basically pick how you're gonna die.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You make a great point too, because sometimes we limit
the conversation of sex to the physical manifestation and expression
of sexual behavior. But it's much more than that. Is
how you identify, it's how you present yourself. It's how
you view yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
In the world. Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Well, yeah, no, it's how you walk through the world.
People tend to forget and with the amount of shame
religion throws on sex and sexuality. Without it, we're not.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Here if not for the kink of our parents. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, I mean, and I have you know, we got
Father's Day coming up, and you know I want to talk.
I'll talk more about like great ways like for me
the thing that led to my birth was the one
of the greatest pickup lines of all time from my
dad to my mom. So I'll get that's going to
be something in a projecting for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Does everyone know the story behind their conception?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know the story of mine, Stephan, do you know yours?
I don't know mine, Mark, do you know yours? I
don't want to. I mean, it's not I don't think
it's gonna be like a Richard Pryor story. You know,
conceived in a brothel, were you nobody was set on fire? No, okay,
I can't reach Tawala. He's out there working on the podcast.
I know my conception story, and I think everyone should
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know their conception story.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Why because it's a part of history of who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I think about the infinitesimal unlikelihood of you, the physical
manifestation of you, that sperm, that egg coming together, the unlikelihood,
the odds against the mark that we're seeing here today.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, I think everyone should know the story behind that.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No, No, I think not. It might not be great,
it's not all, but I think it's great that you're here.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm being serious, and I think that's that's a part
of the unlikelihood of any of us and the outward
manifestation of our personalities. Look, I mean I have an
older sister, same parents, did the same do created a
person nothing like me in any way.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It's like the Punnett Square.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
There are a billion different combinations we could have come
into this world as, but we came with what we
are right now.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
No, when you think about the odds that you exist,
it's pretty mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I just think that Mark might be a little worried
about having like that mental picture and his head, because
that's like a cold shower.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
No, no, I'm not talking about the no, not no.
My parents only had sex twice. It was when my
sister was conceived and when I was conceived.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was the only function of sexual relations, in sex
and their relation. I love that reasoning so much. Yeah,
that's it. That's there's no other reason for them to have. Say,
on that note, Sam, why don't you just hang around
for a second, just hang out with us guest some time.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
All right, we're gonna talk about cannabis when you come
back with the sex doctor. Sam' sia. It's a later
with mo Kelly. We're still live on YouTube. We'll still
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Speaker 4 (18:30):
Later with mo Kelly.
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We're live on Instagram, YouTube, and the iHeartRadio app. I've
always told you about my misgivings with cannabis, and I
usually hear from people in response, well, alcohol's worse.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Alcohol does that, And I.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Said, my misgivings are not connected to one being healthier.
It's just that it's not my thing. I don't like
the smell of it if someone's smoking it. I had
tried an edible once upon a time. They didn't do
anything for me. I don't get anything from it. But
for those who want to keep telling me about the
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quote unquote safety and non addictive properties of weed or cannabis,
I just want to forward this onto you. There's a
new study from the University of California, San Francisco, and
it has determined, long story short, that whether you smoke
cannabis or use edibles, chronic use is bad for your heart.
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I'm not a doctor, but if you told me that
you're putting a foreign substance carcinogen in your lungs, like smoke.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
If you were to.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Smoke cannabis, Yeah, that's probably going to impact your cardiovascular system.
Not a doctor, but that makes sense to me. That
is not hard to figure out. But when you say edibles,
it does raise my eyebrows, like, hmm, okay, it may
not have considered that. The findings published just yesterday in
Drama Cardiology. It tell us about JAMA real quick.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh yeah, Journal of American Medical Association. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
That if it's published in there, it's been peer reviewed,
it's it's it's legit.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Okay, jet okay.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, this study published suggests that long term marijuana use
can seriously impact your blood vessels in a way that's
similar to tobacco.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Researchers found that people who regularly use cannabis, regardless of
how they consumed it, had roughly half the blood vessel
function compared to non users.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It constricts your blood vessels.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Long story short, and of course then that increase your
risk of heart attacks and high blood pressure, or conversely
high blood pressure which may lead to heart attacks. The
study brought together fifty five seemingly healthy individuals between twenty
twenty one and twenty twenty four. All participants were regular
cannabis users, either smoking or consuming THHDC products at least
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three times a week for a year. None of them
used nicotine, so that was a variable where they could
isolate just cannabis use. Beyond the decreased blood vessel function,
researchers found that marijuana smokers also showed changes in their
blood that could damage the cells lining blood vessels. Those
who primarily use edibles, however, didn't show those same changes.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm not a doctor. I'm definitely not a sex doctor.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But we have long had like a correlation in use
between edibles, alcohol and sex.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Oh yeah. A good friend of mine actually is Ashley Manta.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
She's one of the foremost experts on sex and sexuality
and cannabis use. And she found that for her it
was something that she was prior to that in orgasmic
and a bit like a lot of her feelings were
rooted in anxiety and stuff like that. And she'll openly
discuss this stuff and anxiety based on several different factors.
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And what smoking did was make her not have that
focus on the anxiety. Anxiety symptoms diminished, and she start
to actually get pleasure out of sex and set and
really enjoy it more. The thing is a lot I'd
like to see more about the study because you know,
one of the things that you associate with cannabis use
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is stagnation, just wanting to sit on the couch and
not do anything except eat some chili free doos and that,
which sounds great right now, I'm actually pretty hungry. But
that's the thing is you're gonna have. I want to
see how much of that is related to stagnation because
a lot of times people who you know, I know
plenty of people who incorporate cannabis use into their physical
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like into their exercise routine and stuff like that. But
for I want to see what the actual like other
health issues that may have existed for these people.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Right there's a difference between someone who leads a sedentary
lifestyle who's added cannabis into their their diet, if you will,
their daily ingestion habits, and someone who's maybe a high
performing athlete and also so introduces it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, I'd like to see if.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There's many like further, you know, anything more in depth
in that study to account for that, because you can say,
like you know you have heart issues, but could that
be because you're more sedentary, more stagnant because.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You're smoking more and more marijuana. I don't know. I
need to go further into that study.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Charger fifty five in our in Motown with the Momigos,
he says, talking about marijuana, it's a plant, all natural,
and I have to remind people just because something is
natural doesn't mean that it is safe and meant for consumption.
Cocaine is unnatural alcohol. The fermentation of fruit is quote
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unquote natural, so it is tobacco. So as tobacco, right,
it does not mean that it is healthy for you.
And Charger fifty five said it also has helped many people.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Well, so has chemo.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
You know, just because it's helped you doesn't mean that
it's not also harmful to the body.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, A lot I like to use when it comes
to any substance use. Really is a line from the
movie Drunken Master with Jackie chan A boat can float
in water, but it can also sink in it. That
was almost profound respect to the Drunken Master reference.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
When we learn more about cannabis, do you think and
I know this may not be specifically your feel but
I think there is a connection to your field. What
do you think the future may be for cannabis as
it relates to our sexual health.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
It could be something for people like say, who have
PTSD and may have some sexual trauma.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It may be used for people.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I've seen people who have gone through sexual trauma who
have you incorporated cannabis into their activities and it makes
it so that they are much less in their head
and more present in their body.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Mister Reef for nine nine nine goes back to a
previous conversation we had talking about double dipping and sharing things.
Mister Reefer nine nine nine says, if you can't share food,
I doubt you'll share the joint.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
The whole idea of passing the joint is like I
don't know how many lips have been on that thing.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
That ain't cool. You're correct, mister Reefer, that's accurate. Is
that his given name at birth?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Probably that's the name that he chose for himself, at
least for the chat. Oh okay, I don't know if
his mama named him. That's the name of Reefer. He
was as a child, he was Reefer, but now refer, Yeah,
that's how he had. That's his pronoun little roach, little roach.
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I don't know what to say, he guys, it's just weird.
I tell you, you want to mix it in sex and
and passing a joint shows just off the rails, off
the rails. But let me ask you this one more
question before we go. In the way that we have,
if you can look at marijuana, we have become more
or comfortable with the idea of use of marijuana, not
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only in a medicinal sense, but obviously in a recreational sense.
We have more and more states which have legalized it.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
You think that's going to be the same as.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Far as sex and in the way that Amsterdam has
a red light district.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Will America ever get there?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
You've got parts of this country where it's already there.
Nevada has uh you know true, You've got brothels over there,
You've got uh.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Sex work is something that is going to be there.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
How much you want to criminalize, shame and stigmatize the
people who engage in it, That's something the government doesn't
have to engage in. That's something that the government doesn't
have to you know, sanction the discrimination against people who
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The conversation we just had was hilarious adult.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I wish I could do right. Yeah, listener discretion advice, yes, Yes,
what do you want to talk about tonight? In the
world of sex, romance and relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Well, I was looking. I like looking at different academic
studies that come out. That's just me. I'm a nerd.
I saw one a couple months ago. It was a
study about if there were any behavioral changes based on
sex and lab rats who were exposed to radiation in space,
and what it found was that radiation exposure in space
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space radiation exposure to lab rats led to female rats
having more risk taking behavior and similar similar risk taking
behavior in male rats, but they spent more time in
deliberation before making choices.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
If I understand you correctly, that rats make radiation space
radiation will make rats freakier potentially, yeah, and be willing
to do more things.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Take more risks, and have their inhibitions pulled down.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's kind of like, I don't know, some sort of aphrodisiac.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Maybe maybe now they do have a thing in space.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Astronaut reported it called the Viagra effect, where being in
zero gravity or microgravity led to ease of arousal, and
then that.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Would seem like it would be more difficult to force
blood to move in a particular direction when it doesn't
have gravity working as it normally would.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, our body I don't know if you know this,
but if we're upside down, we can still get aroused.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I only know that from like being under a pool table.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
But yeah, okay, so zero G gravity isn't going to
have too much of an effect as far as our
ability to get aroused. It may actually increase our billit like,
it may actually increase it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It just seems like the zero G would get in
the way of rhythm motion sometimes. You how can I
say this? Yes, I need some sort of resistance to
push against put it that way exactly. That's the big
thing here. Now let's talk about some ideas.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
First off, we're both really big movie nerds and stuff
like that. Can you think of any movies that have
had sex scenes in it that were in zero gravity? Yes,
moon Breaker, thank you, that was one of them that
I had on my list. Barberella was another one. Aside
from that, You've had a bunch of scenes that are
sex in space. I usually like Captain Kirk on place
where gravity is a thing. Okay, Now, to create gravity
(04:14):
you need centrifical force, if you like correct. Currently, there's
nothing as far as I know, in the Space program
where they're actively promoting and trying to create centrifical force
to create artificial gravity in space at this moment. So
what happens if there's like a giant space asteroid that's
coming now and we don't have this gravity and we
(04:35):
need to find a way to jump off of this
rock and be able to procreate our way into deep
space into the next habitable place. So that's where the
idea of sex and space becomes actually pertinent.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And there's a.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Field of sex studies called space sexology, which I'm very
interested in. I almost did my dissertation on this topic.
I held off because peorign studies was way better. But yeah,
what happens that we have to jump off of this
planet and aside from protecting ourselves from the radiation of
space which can totally sterilize us, there's a lot of
(05:10):
issues that can happen when you try to procreate in
outer space. There was an Australian company that made a
suit called the two Suit. It was a velcrow scrap
that held a couple together for them to be around it,
like physically next to each other long enough to be
able to have sex, kind.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Of like Velcrow is always somewhere connected to sex always.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Yeah, maybe it's just making never mind, you know, depending
on various you know, positions that you get actors.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Now, there have been some attempts from like porn companies.
Pornhub tried to crowdsource something where they could actually film
a scene in space. It was unsuccessful. Virgin Galactic rejected
a one million dollar offer to shoot a scene in space. Now,
the closest thing that we have come to it is
that there was a scene shot in the Vomit Comet,
one of those planes that does the up and down
where you can simulate zero gravity.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So they're only.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Able to get like a twenty second, one single twenty
second scene, not enough to really, you know, do anything
fun too anyways, So if we don't have there's also
other issues like as far as like, if you're gonna
try to have sex in zero gravity, what's gonna happen
physiologically to the human body?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Does it let me jump in there?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Does it impact the ability of the swimmers to swim?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It does not. They haven't done any so far.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
No sex pro or no space program in the world
is willing to acknowledge whatever experiments that they've done. Human wise, However,
they have been able to have various animals pro create
in space, so the ability of semen to find an
egg is still present in zero gravity, just they've tested
it out on animals and first first animal to mate
(06:52):
in space successfully was a fish that was galactic sushi
in nineteen ninety four. Let's see here experiments in nineteen
ninety five not done by NASA, by a foreign space
program in nineteen ninety five done on lab rats. They
found their rats born here on Earth, but they are
They go to space and then have a baby in space.
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Those babies lose the ability to roll back onto their
feet when they're placed on their back. It's like how
with cats, you know, they land on their feet. Rats
have very delicate spinal columns, and they lose that ability
to land on their feet when they're upside down. The
part of it is because they lose the spatial awareness
because they're so used to being in zero gravity. But
when they come back to Earth, those specific rats, when
(07:36):
they procreate and they have another lineage, their children end
up having some what would be called developmental issues here
on Earth, but actually, when you think about it in
the context of zero gravity, they may be more optimalized
to function in space.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It almost sounds like there will be an evolutionary impact
from the very first generation of procreation in space for
the human species most likely.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, now this is as far as like you want
not just like sex and space, but procreation in space. Yeah,
we're thinking long term, long distance traveling. If we're in
an emergency and we don't have the ability to get
gravity artificially created. This is what our reality is going
to be. Where if you extend that idea over one generation,
it had these developmental issues here on Earth when they
(08:24):
came back to Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
If you have to.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Go generation to generation in space with zero gravity, you're
going to see what some of the issues that you
see the effects of weightlessness or microgravity on the human body,
diminished bone density, heart muscle starts to lose mass, muscles
in general lose mass. Basically, if you extend that over generations, five,
six generations, you'll have decreased and diminished bone density and
(08:49):
muscle mass. You'll have something that's much more optimalized to
function in zero gravity and have the bone density to
push the buttons that need to be pushed on spaceship
to keep them alive and to procreate.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, our muscles only mean something with respect to gravity
and resistance.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Resistance.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, yeah, when we come back, we'll have more with
doctor sam Zia.
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we're right in the mid of a conversation with the sex
doctor Sam Zea, who is in in the last segment. Sam,
we were talking about some of the realities of sex
and space, some of the scientific studies which have been
conducted with regard to animals and procreation, sexual behavior in space.
(10:35):
How do you think it to the best of your knowledge,
how do you think this is going to be utilized
in the future in the near term because we have
privatized space exploration. Yeah, we go upon above the common line,
not all that often. But you have bezos, you have
SpaceX where now regular people like you and me, if
(10:59):
we have I don't know, five hundred thousand dollars or so,
we could go to space as well. How long before
space is commercialized do you think where they will We'll
have the mal High Club and we'll have the sixty
two mile High Club.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I'm guessing it won't be too long.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It's not lost on me that Elon named his company
SpaceX and Jeff Bezos ship looks like a Yeah, it's
like the scene from Austin Powers.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Really it does. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's a little long
the nose if you want to use that term. But yes,
it's obvious.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
But I think we're gonna we are on the doorstep
of it because as much as people like to shame
sex and sexuality, it still sells, and there's going to
be people who visually want to see what it will
look like. So I'm getting the feeling and we've seen
I mentioned the porn company that created the zero gravity scene.
(11:53):
It was a twenty second scene filmed in the Vomit
comet and it was called the Uranus Experiment Part two
in case you want to look it up.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Of course it is, of course it is. So that's
the thing is that there's already a market for it.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
More and more people are going as you know, technology
develops and more exploration, commercial exploration into sec or into
space happens, You're gonna see that get sexualized.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And it really it does kind of cater to the
idea of if we do have to, you know, the
fantasy of having to escape the planet and and pro
create and you know, keep the species going over an
extended period of time. I mean, they make movies, bad
movies about this, but they also there's a couple of
decent films in there as well.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We were having fun with this, but by and large,
America is reticent to have any type of real conversations
about sex. We are an uptight society, We are an
uptight nation. And you don't know how uptight we are
until you travel, until you see the world. Go to
Europe for a while. They're not one tenth this up
time as we are. From what you see on TV
(13:02):
to what you see on a on.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
A beach topless beach.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Do you think that America will catch up to the
rest of the world in these the discussions at any point.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It's not going to do it necessarily publicly, considering how
much sex and sexuality ashamed, but it's going to be
done in private. When I mean, before the Internet, you
had a lot of people, you know, just keeping to
themselves and keeping their kinks to themselves. After the Internet,
those kinks had their own communities created where they get
to reach out and touch each other, and they're very
(13:33):
happy to do sir, what you did there?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So now you're going to have that same idea where
people are going to there's going to be a community
for it no matter what, and they're going to be
able to reach out and touch one another. Whether it's
going to be something that they publicly cheer about and
say this is something that I'm all about and they
make it a big spectacle, or if they just keep
it in the privacy of their own home.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Do you think that we are uptight as a nation
because I wouldn't say that America is more religious than
other nations. You have nations which are actual theocracies. But
I would say a place like Italy is more religious
than the United States and any number of European countries.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Even England is.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
More religious than the United States. To what would you
attribute our uptightness.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
It does go down to like old old fashioned puritanism
and shame a lot of times, and you'll see it,
and not just out here in America. It's the same
with religious a lot of religions and countries that are
you know, based their foundation off of religions. A lot
of times will use the shame of sex and sexuality
to control a population and to make it like a
(14:48):
great example of that as Iran, where they use sex
and sexuality as a deep sense of shame surrounding it
so that people so they can control the behaviors of people,
say for eas ample who are gay, where you know,
the options for them are very limited either you know,
get out of the country, escape the country, get sexual
(15:08):
reassignment surgery, or stay in hiding or pick you know,
or basically pick how you're gonna die.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You make a great point too, because sometimes we limit
the conversation of sex to the physical manifestation and expression
of sexual behavior. But it's much more than that. Is
how you identify, it's how you present yourself. It's how
you view yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
In the world. Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Well, yeah, no, it's how you walk through the world.
People tend to forget and with the amount of shame
religion throws on sex and sexuality. Without it, we're not.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Here if not for the kink of our parents. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, I mean, and I have you know, we got
Father's Day coming up, and you know I want to talk.
I'll talk more about like great ways like for me
the thing that led to my birth was the one
of the greatest pickup lines of all time from my
dad to my mom. So I'll get that's going to
be something in a projecting for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Does everyone know the story behind their conception?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know the story of mine, Stephan, do you know yours?
I don't know mine, Mark, do you know yours? I
don't want to. I mean, it's not I don't think
it's gonna be like a Richard Pryor story. You know,
conceived in a brothel, were you nobody was set on fire? No, okay,
I can't reach Tawala. He's out there working on the podcast.
I know my conception story, and I think everyone should
(16:28):
know their conception story.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Why because it's a part of history of who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I think about the infinitesimal unlikelihood of you, the physical
manifestation of you, that sperm, that egg coming together, the unlikelihood,
the odds against the mark that we're seeing here today.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, I think everyone should know the story behind that.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
No, No, I think not. It might not be great,
it's not all, but I think it's great that you're here.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm being serious, and I think that's that's a part
of the unlikelihood of any of us and the outward
manifestation of our personalities. Look, I mean I have an
older sister, same parents, did the same do created a
person nothing like me in any way.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It's like the Punnett Square.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
There are a billion different combinations we could have come
into this world as, but we came with what we
are right now.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
No, when you think about the odds that you exist,
it's pretty mind blowing.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I just think that Mark might be a little worried
about having like that mental picture and his head, because
that's like a cold shower.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
No, no, I'm not talking about the no, not no.
My parents only had sex twice. It was when my
sister was conceived and when I was conceived.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That was the only function of sexual relations, in sex
and their relation. I love that reasoning so much. Yeah,
that's it. That's there's no other reason for them to have. Say,
on that note, Sam, why don't you just hang around
for a second, just hang out with us guest some time.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
All right, we're gonna talk about cannabis when you come
back with the sex doctor. Sam' sia. It's a later
with mo Kelly. We're still live on YouTube. We'll still
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Later with mo Kelly.
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We're live on Instagram, YouTube, and the iHeartRadio app. I've
always told you about my misgivings with cannabis, and I
usually hear from people in response, well, alcohol's worse.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Alcohol does that, And I.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Said, my misgivings are not connected to one being healthier.
It's just that it's not my thing. I don't like
the smell of it if someone's smoking it. I had
tried an edible once upon a time. They didn't do
anything for me. I don't get anything from it. But
for those who want to keep telling me about the
(19:05):
quote unquote safety and non addictive properties of weed or cannabis,
I just want to forward this onto you. There's a
new study from the University of California, San Francisco, and
it has determined, long story short, that whether you smoke
cannabis or use edibles, chronic use is bad for your heart.
(19:28):
I'm not a doctor, but if you told me that
you're putting a foreign substance carcinogen in your lungs, like smoke.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
If you were to.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Smoke cannabis, Yeah, that's probably going to impact your cardiovascular system.
Not a doctor, but that makes sense to me. That
is not hard to figure out. But when you say edibles,
it does raise my eyebrows, like, hmm, okay, it may
not have considered that. The findings published just yesterday in
Drama Cardiology. It tell us about JAMA real quick.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh yeah, Journal of American Medical Association. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
That if it's published in there, it's been peer reviewed,
it's it's it's legit.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Okay, jet okay.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Well, this study published suggests that long term marijuana use
can seriously impact your blood vessels in a way that's
similar to tobacco.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Makes sense.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Researchers found that people who regularly use cannabis, regardless of
how they consumed it, had roughly half the blood vessel
function compared to non users.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It constricts your blood vessels.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Long story short, and of course then that increase your
risk of heart attacks and high blood pressure, or conversely
high blood pressure which may lead to heart attacks. The
study brought together fifty five seemingly healthy individuals between twenty
twenty one and twenty twenty four. All participants were regular
cannabis users, either smoking or consuming THHDC products at least
(20:53):
three times a week for a year. None of them
used nicotine, so that was a variable where they could
isolate just cannabis use. Beyond the decreased blood vessel function,
researchers found that marijuana smokers also showed changes in their
blood that could damage the cells lining blood vessels. Those
who primarily use edibles, however, didn't show those same changes.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm not a doctor. I'm definitely not a sex doctor.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But we have long had like a correlation in use
between edibles, alcohol and sex.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Oh yeah. A good friend of mine actually is Ashley Manta.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
She's one of the foremost experts on sex and sexuality
and cannabis use. And she found that for her it
was something that she was prior to that in orgasmic
and a bit like a lot of her feelings were
rooted in anxiety and stuff like that. And she'll openly
discuss this stuff and anxiety based on several different factors.
(21:54):
And what smoking did was make her not have that
focus on the anxiety. Anxiety symptoms diminished, and she start
to actually get pleasure out of sex and set and
really enjoy it more. The thing is a lot I'd
like to see more about the study because you know,
one of the things that you associate with cannabis use
(22:14):
is stagnation, just wanting to sit on the couch and
not do anything except eat some chili free doos and that,
which sounds great right now, I'm actually pretty hungry. But
that's the thing is you're gonna have. I want to
see how much of that is related to stagnation because
a lot of times people who you know, I know
plenty of people who incorporate cannabis use into their physical
(22:36):
like into their exercise routine and stuff like that. But
for I want to see what the actual like other
health issues that may have existed for these people.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Right there's a difference between someone who leads a sedentary
lifestyle who's added cannabis into their their diet, if you will,
their daily ingestion habits, and someone who's maybe a high
performing athlete and also so introduces it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, I'd like to see if.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There's many like further, you know, anything more in depth
in that study to account for that, because you can say,
like you know you have heart issues, but could that
be because you're more sedentary, more stagnant because.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You're smoking more and more marijuana. I don't know. I
need to go further into that study.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Charger fifty five in our in Motown with the Momigos,
he says, talking about marijuana, it's a plant, all natural,
and I have to remind people just because something is
natural doesn't mean that it is safe and meant for consumption.
Cocaine is unnatural alcohol. The fermentation of fruit is quote
(23:40):
unquote natural, so it is tobacco. So as tobacco, right,
it does not mean that it is healthy for you.
And Charger fifty five said it also has helped many people.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Well, so has chemo.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
You know, just because it's helped you doesn't mean that
it's not also harmful to the body.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, A lot I like to use when it comes
to any substance use. Really is a line from the
movie Drunken Master with Jackie chan A boat can float
in water, but it can also sink in it. That
was almost profound respect to the Drunken Master reference.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
When we learn more about cannabis, do you think and
I know this may not be specifically your feel but
I think there is a connection to your field. What
do you think the future may be for cannabis as
it relates to our sexual health.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
It could be something for people like say, who have
PTSD and may have some sexual trauma.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It may be used for people.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I've seen people who have gone through sexual trauma who
have you incorporated cannabis into their activities and it makes
it so that they are much less in their head
and more present in their body.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Mister Reef for nine nine nine goes back to a
previous conversation we had talking about double dipping and sharing things.
Mister Reefer nine nine nine says, if you can't share food,
I doubt you'll share the joint.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
The whole idea of passing the joint is like I
don't know how many lips have been on that thing.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
That ain't cool. You're correct, mister Reefer, that's accurate. Is
that his given name at birth?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Probably that's the name that he chose for himself, at
least for the chat. Oh okay, I don't know if
his mama named him. That's the name of Reefer. He
was as a child, he was Reefer, but now refer, Yeah,
that's how he had. That's his pronoun little roach, little roach.
(25:43):
I don't know what to say, he guys, it's just weird.
I tell you, you want to mix it in sex and
and passing a joint shows just off the rails, off
the rails. But let me ask you this one more
question before we go. In the way that we have,
if you can look at marijuana, we have become more
or comfortable with the idea of use of marijuana, not
(26:04):
only in a medicinal sense, but obviously in a recreational sense.
We have more and more states which have legalized it.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
You think that's going to be the same as.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Far as sex and in the way that Amsterdam has
a red light district.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Will America ever get there?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
You've got parts of this country where it's already there.
Nevada has uh you know true, You've got brothels over there,
You've got uh.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Sex work is something that is going to be there.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
How much you want to criminalize, shame and stigmatize the
people who engage in it, That's something the government doesn't
have to engage in. That's something that the government doesn't
have to you know, sanction the discrimination against people who
are just trying to make a buck.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
The day ain't gonna be today though, No, it's gonna
be at so it's laid with Mokelly.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I don't even have a final thought tonight.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
You come in, you think you're gonna have a certain
type of show and it goes in a different direction.
My final thought would have been way too serious and
just way too much of a downer for this show.
This show is just great. It's it's incredible. Uh, mister
Reefer nine nine nine says ding dong. With this crew
love it well, we appreciate you, mister Reefer as well.
B One in the Motown chat says, smoke weed every day,
(27:21):
just like the song Nate Dog.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Eric Lisardo says.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Past the duchy on the left hand side that I
was thinking that.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah, yep, yep, yep. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
We're still live on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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