July 25, 2025 • 18 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – “The Sex Doctor Is In” with Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352), PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality, weighing in on “sexual conservatism,' virginity and why Gen Z is having less sex” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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SAMSI Sex Doc. He's a SAMs stops stop.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The sex.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Right Kelly.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Later later Kay If I am six forty, it's Later
with Mo Kelly live everywhere on social media and the
iHeartRadio app. The sex Doctor is in put the kids
to bed. Let me put it that way, Sam, It's
great to see you. I saw this article today and
I immediately thought of you in the sense of I
(01:03):
wanted to get your thoughts on this. And according to
the twenty twenty three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Youth Risk Behavior Report, it found that adolescent sexual behavior
has declined since twenty thirteen. If you were to just
asked me, I'd assume that it would have increase because
of all the methods and availabilities and options and people
(01:26):
had and social media apps and the dating apps, that
they'd be more inclined to engage in sexual behavior. But
according to this one in four gen Z adults has
not had partnered sex. For example, that was.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
A little bit surprising to see.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Just like that specific statistic, twenty five percent of gen
Zers have not had partnered sex. Now we it kind
of goes along the same lines, and I'll get to
a little bit the male loneliness epidemic. I've been hearing
a lot about this on social media and stuff, and
we'll get to that. But the report came out of
(02:05):
the Kinsey Institute was a survey from twenty twenty two.
One out of four Gen ze ers have not had
partnered sex. Sixteen percent of them said that they were
more hesitant after Roe v. Wade was overturned. I thought
that was really yeah, I thought that was, you know,
an interesting point to bring up. It was also kind
of like a negligible statistic to bring up just in general.
(02:26):
Usually people after they're you know, done having sex and
they have a kid, you know, things tend to move
on after that. But more and more people, from what
I'm seeing, I didn't see this in the article, but
I've seen this in other stories and other articles that've
been posted on the subject. More and more young people
are getting their emotional needs met through online social relationships,
(02:48):
where a lot in the past, a lot of youth
were much more curious about sex and sexuality, and they
would experiment with each other throughout high school or throughout college. Now,
with the ubiquitous access to porn that a lot of
people have, especially younger people, it may have taken the
mystique in the sense of taboo out of sex, and
(03:08):
so a lot of their questions are immediately being answered
by porn, which is why it's so important to have
adequate sexual education when it comes to contextualizing porn.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
See, I'm thinking that that would not only desensitize us
or the generation, but it would make it what I
remember growing up.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Let me put it this way.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You know, sex was like, oh my gosh, it was
this magical land that if you're lucky enough one day
you'll get to visit. Now, it's like, it's probably pretty
pass a because it's ever present. And so we hear
the stories of children, be honest, engaging in sexual acts
at a much younger age. But this study flies in
the face of that.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, well, because a lot of times when, especially when
younger people are engaging in sexual activities, it's them exploring
themselves and exploring you know, and themselves in the context
of other people sexually and now you and before, like
especially when we were growing up, like the most that
we probably ever had access to was, you know, scrambled
(04:09):
porn on Playboy and like and magazines, our uncle's subscription
that he hit in the bathroom, that that kind of thing, where.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Nowadays it's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So a lot of these questions and a lot of
the mystique behind it is just gone, and it makes
it so kids are less likely to have those questions
and try to experiment to find the answers to them.
They see it and they're immediately like, Okay, well that
makes sense, and they're immediately turned off of it.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
We're talking about gen Z. But I'm jen X.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I grew up in the age of the i'll say,
the discovery of HIV and AIDS and how that's severely
muted our collective sexual behavior didn't stop it, you know,
because we were still having sex, but we were still
bombarded with like, if you have sex, you're gonna die
type messaging.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, well we had I mean, I remember, I mean
I'm gen X as well, and I remember the lessons
that we learned in the late eighties and early nineties
about protecting yourself. We had, I mean nineteen ninety one,
at the end of it, we had Magic Johnson in
November of ninety one, and then within a month Freddie
Mercury passed away from Hi.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Where was Rock Hudson in that he was in the
eighties eighties.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, mid to late eighties, that's when Rock Hudson passed away.
But really the amount of exposure towards the dangers of
sex really sprouted up around then, and that's when you
in that eras when you started to see tlc ain't
too proud of bed making condoms a fashion statement where
they were very much making it so that people were
(05:44):
being more mindful and careful about what they were doing sexually. Unfortunately,
and well you can say for fortunately fortunately, but also unfortunately.
The fortunate thing is medical advancements, especially I mean after
Magic Johnson's announcement, the amount of funding towards HIV age
research skyrocketed, and after that you start to see people, like,
you know, different treatments coming out that were more effective
(06:07):
and people it wasn't the death sentence that it was
back in the nineties. People are living longer, healthier lives.
Magic Johnson is still alive and kicking. Yeah, And that's
that's the thing, is that a lot of the lessons
that we Gen xers learned about sex and sexuality got
lost on a lot of generations, so you're probably going
to see more cases of you know, people not necessarily
(06:28):
knowing what they're doing sexually as far as disease goes,
but the mystique and the questions of actually, you know,
sex and sex what it actually is. They're getting those
questions answered by the Internet.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Now, okay, if I understand you correctly, whereas our generation
we dealt with the fear and the consequences of gen
Z is not dissuaded by fear.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
They're just disinterested.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, their emotional and physical needs are being met in
other ways. They they have online, real relationships with people.
We were talking about AI. That's a burgeoning field right
now where there's a lot more people getting into relationships
with AI. But there it's it's becoming something where sex
is the game. Like the reward the risk reward of
(07:16):
it is slowly no longer balancing. More people or less
people are looking to have families and have kids because
their emotional needs are being met in other ways. And
we were talking about how like you know, the there's
like a population slump here and also especially in Japan,
this thing isn't what we're talking about isn't something that's
just impacting us here in the United States. It's almost
(07:37):
a worldwide phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Right when we say gen Z, we're talking about people
who were born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Those individuals obviously are around twenty eight, but they are
still within the sweet spot of the child bearing years.
In other words, they have the lion's share responsibility of
having and starting the families now at this point, and
they see, well, we know that gen Z, they're less
likely to drive, they're less likely to have sex, they're
less likely to start a family.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
What drives them? Then? Really all of their needs are
met at home.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Guys are sitting at home playing video games, having no
They're having online conversations with people in their virtual worlds.
They are getting their needs met through. If they're into porn,
they can have their sexual needs met online. If they
want to have more of like that verbal interaction with people,
they can do it much more safely online by having
(08:35):
like a sexting relationship with somebody versus having an actual
in person relationship. You're starting to see that in Japan,
where they're actually looking for people to move out there
to have babies out there to help stop the decline
in the population out there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
But did you look at a place like China was
like no one child at maximum.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, and that's they've done a good job of controlling
population because they were really pushing the population issue. And
now it's become something where like they China's more or
less known for being so restrictive about having sex and
having kids that that's they mastered the art of birth
control over there. They've really focused on it. Where here,
(09:14):
I'm we're starting to see, you know, politicians and billionaires
going out of their ways telling people we need to
start having way more kids because they're afraid of like
the workforce here diminishing, and we're trying to get a
lot of people out of this country, I guess, and
we're going to fill those roles with more and more people.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Let me just respond to that before we go to
break it's it seems to me as counterintuitive because we
already have an exploding homeless population. We already have more
people who are unemployed than jobs. Big picture for the
future will exist, So what would be the argument to
have more kids if we can't accommodate more people.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's because more kids means more workers, more people can
be out there working in those jobs that are going
to be coming up.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
The more we're absolutely and there's going to be people
getting paid less and less money to do jobs.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I mean, really, we used to get away with having
one job. Now all of us have to have several
jobs in order to get by. And it's you're gonna
need the workforce if you're going to be eliminating a
huge chunk of the population here that's working actively. And
so a lot of the people are having less and
less sex for a bunch of reasons. Their emotional and
sexual needs are being met in other ways. But now
(10:30):
there's also political pressure on people to have kids, and
that changes the discussion because we were talking about a
little bit last week about some of the laws, the
legislation that's going through aimed at restricting pleasure and sex
and sexual expression. So these are all things that are
now on the table and we'll go into that in
(10:51):
the next I've got fourteen states currently that have anti porn,
anti sex toy legislation on the books.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Doctor Samza, the sex Dotye is in and he's holding court.
He has a lot of great information for all of us.
It's Later with mo Kelly KFIM six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 5 (11:14):
KFI AM six forty. The Sex Doctor is in. Sam
Zea continues to join us here in Studio Sam. Last segment,
we were talking about how gen Z has pulled away
from the whole idea of sex as far as participation.
It doesn't have the same level of importance or influence
over their lives in the way that the previous generations
(11:36):
had a control over us, you could say, but also
that's how people are changing, but also laws are changing
around the country.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Well, the author of the article that you had sent
me was talking about how she was also very much
like consumed with her own virginity growing up, and it
seems like people nowadays, younger people X or gen z
ers are much more are likely to not take that
stuff as seriously. So it's really the game as far
as sex goes, has changed. The information around it. The
(12:08):
content around it is so easily accessible, and people are
actually getting pretty decent information where before a lot of
times people who they you know, when they're looking for
any information regarding sex or sexuality, they'd usually be asking
somebody who has less information in them as far as
that goes, So now the people are getting reasonably good
(12:30):
sexual information online, it's just making sure you have it
in the right context. But as far as laws go,
and what the problem is is that for all the
good education you can get online about sex and sexuality,
a lot of that stuff is going to be thrown
out with the bathwater with a lot of these uh
legislation going through aim to restrict access to online porn
(12:52):
and also not just that, restrict access to people getting
adult novelty toys, sex toys like we were talking about
last week.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
But we know, just from history, our personal lives, and
you know, life in general, restricting access to pornographic materials
has never decreased either the demand or the access.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Really yeah, But the only thing that it does is
it makes it so people now have to go to
different sources to ask those questions, and the people giving
those answers are going to be ones where, let's say,
the government is going to be much more approving of
what those answers are going to be. So now you're
going to have people not looking online or not having
(13:37):
as much access, so especially in those formative years when
you may have a lot of questions but you're way
too embarrassed to ask the people around you. So you
go online. Now you're not gonna be able to get
any answer.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So it was different because when I was growing up,
we didn't have any online. Our knowledge base was the
extension of the friends we hung out with. Yeah, you know,
so you asked him, hey, what about this or what
about that? And hopefully you had a decent source to
get information from. Usually you don't because their knuckleheads, just
like you are. Yeah, if you have, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I had an older sibling and so I got to
I got to raid his adult magazine stash because he
was a lot. It was like seven years older than yeapening. Yeah,
so I got to learn a little bit from them. Also,
I was lucky enough to have a family that was
really on top of that stuff. My parents, my mom
and dad, were totally on top of me getting as
much education about sex and sexuality as possible. Most people
(14:30):
do not have parents as accepting of sex and sexuality.
So my mom is a psychoanalyst and her bathroom. Her
toilet seat reading was a book called The New Sex Therapy,
and it had actual pencil sketch drawings in it. So
I learned all about that stuff because I, you know,
I did learn to read on the toylet.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
That didn't weird you out, that didn't un nerve you.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It did, But I also was like, this is interesting.
I was at the same time fascinated by it. So
I just I guess that's where a lot of my
my inclination towards this field kind of got started. But
there's a lot of legislation now going around. Fourteen states,
most recently South Dakota jumped in with laws that aim
to restrict access to online porn by making people provide
(15:14):
either picture of their license, some form of ID, some
way to verify that they are over eighteen. The Supreme
Court voted six to three saying that this is constitutional.
Went right down party lines. It was the the case
was Free Speech Coalition versus Paxton and Texas. More, since
(15:34):
Texas is kind of a bellweather state when it comes
to this kind of legislation, you're slowly going to start
seeing more and more states adopting legislation similar to this.
Just because Texas took that step forward. Absolutely and full disclosure.
I'm a member of the Free Speech Coalition. It's the
political action committee that tries to do the best they
(15:56):
can to advocate for the rights of adult film performers.
Uh but yeah, for all of that, and you know,
there's going to be a bunch of other conservative states
following suit.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And this brings up a question for me.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
For all the people demanding smaller government, this seems like
the opposite, where we're finding ways to have the government
start to get directly into our bedroom. I mean we
I brought a bag full of sex toys.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And I hate to interrupt you, but this is maybe
you're not old enough to know the ways of the world,
but we were never a country about keeping the government
out of our bedroom. Historically, the government has always been
in our bedroom.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But I was hoping that, you know, times of change
and people put more of their money where their mouth
is when that with that kind of thing. But I
mean I came in with a bag of sex toys
and lubes and stuff like that last week that if
I had been traveling through and got pulled over in Texas,
I would have been put in prison for distributing like that,
like like the same way that you would get by drugs.
(17:00):
They have the same kind the laws for sex toys,
and for me, I have a hard time with trying
to legislate people's access to pleasure when it's not harming
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
That has always been the issue with let's say, prostitution.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
The government has always been in people's business when it
comes to bedroom activity. Always the laws as far as
sodomy going back into the early twentieth century, always been
an issue. And we can say before Loving versus Virginia
as far as interracial marriage is always been in people's
(17:35):
lives in bedroom. The only difference now is we just
changed the subject matter or the heading. But it's always
been the same, Doctor Sam, I have to run, but
it's always great having you in studio.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You're going to come back and see us next week.
Hopefully I'll be around.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm actually going to be maybe running the Chargers game
because that's the first football game of the season and
I'm still an employee of iHeart.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
They have they officially made that announcement.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yet, I'm not sure I know that Thursday is the
first game. Yeah, they've told us I don't know if
they've told everyone else. I told us yeeah, So I
might be here. I might have to run in and
do a quick little hello, hi there, and hello.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Oh that's right, because that's next Thursday.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, but if I'm not going to be too consumed
with that, I will definitely be here to give you
some more sex advice.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Sam the Sex Doctor. We appreciate you. I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
SAMSI Sex Doc. He's a SAMs stops stop.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
The sex.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Right Kelly.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Later later Kay If I am six forty, it's Later
with Mo Kelly live everywhere on social media and the
iHeartRadio app. The sex Doctor is in put the kids
to bed. Let me put it that way, Sam, It's
great to see you. I saw this article today and
I immediately thought of you in the sense of I
(01:03):
wanted to get your thoughts on this. And according to
the twenty twenty three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Youth Risk Behavior Report, it found that adolescent sexual behavior
has declined since twenty thirteen. If you were to just
asked me, I'd assume that it would have increase because
of all the methods and availabilities and options and people
(01:26):
had and social media apps and the dating apps, that
they'd be more inclined to engage in sexual behavior. But
according to this one in four gen Z adults has
not had partnered sex. For example, that was.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
A little bit surprising to see.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Just like that specific statistic, twenty five percent of gen
Zers have not had partnered sex. Now we it kind
of goes along the same lines, and I'll get to
a little bit the male loneliness epidemic. I've been hearing
a lot about this on social media and stuff, and
we'll get to that. But the report came out of
(02:05):
the Kinsey Institute was a survey from twenty twenty two.
One out of four Gen ze ers have not had
partnered sex. Sixteen percent of them said that they were
more hesitant after Roe v. Wade was overturned. I thought
that was really yeah, I thought that was, you know,
an interesting point to bring up. It was also kind
of like a negligible statistic to bring up just in general.
(02:26):
Usually people after they're you know, done having sex and
they have a kid, you know, things tend to move
on after that. But more and more people, from what
I'm seeing, I didn't see this in the article, but
I've seen this in other stories and other articles that've
been posted on the subject. More and more young people
are getting their emotional needs met through online social relationships,
(02:48):
where a lot in the past, a lot of youth
were much more curious about sex and sexuality, and they
would experiment with each other throughout high school or throughout college. Now,
with the ubiquitous access to porn that a lot of
people have, especially younger people, it may have taken the
mystique in the sense of taboo out of sex, and
(03:08):
so a lot of their questions are immediately being answered
by porn, which is why it's so important to have
adequate sexual education when it comes to contextualizing porn.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
See, I'm thinking that that would not only desensitize us
or the generation, but it would make it what I
remember growing up.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Let me put it this way.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You know, sex was like, oh my gosh, it was
this magical land that if you're lucky enough one day
you'll get to visit. Now, it's like, it's probably pretty
pass a because it's ever present. And so we hear
the stories of children, be honest, engaging in sexual acts
at a much younger age. But this study flies in
the face of that.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, well, because a lot of times when, especially when
younger people are engaging in sexual activities, it's them exploring
themselves and exploring you know, and themselves in the context
of other people sexually and now you and before, like
especially when we were growing up, like the most that
we probably ever had access to was, you know, scrambled
(04:09):
porn on Playboy and like and magazines, our uncle's subscription
that he hit in the bathroom, that that kind of thing, where.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Nowadays it's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So a lot of these questions and a lot of
the mystique behind it is just gone, and it makes
it so kids are less likely to have those questions
and try to experiment to find the answers to them.
They see it and they're immediately like, Okay, well that
makes sense, and they're immediately turned off of it.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
We're talking about gen Z. But I'm jen X.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I grew up in the age of the i'll say,
the discovery of HIV and AIDS and how that's severely
muted our collective sexual behavior didn't stop it, you know,
because we were still having sex, but we were still
bombarded with like, if you have sex, you're gonna die
type messaging.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, well we had I mean, I remember, I mean
I'm gen X as well, and I remember the lessons
that we learned in the late eighties and early nineties
about protecting yourself. We had, I mean nineteen ninety one,
at the end of it, we had Magic Johnson in
November of ninety one, and then within a month Freddie
Mercury passed away from Hi.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Where was Rock Hudson in that he was in the
eighties eighties.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, mid to late eighties, that's when Rock Hudson passed away.
But really the amount of exposure towards the dangers of
sex really sprouted up around then, and that's when you
in that eras when you started to see tlc ain't
too proud of bed making condoms a fashion statement where
they were very much making it so that people were
(05:44):
being more mindful and careful about what they were doing sexually. Unfortunately,
and well you can say for fortunately fortunately, but also unfortunately.
The fortunate thing is medical advancements, especially I mean after
Magic Johnson's announcement, the amount of funding towards HIV age
research skyrocketed, and after that you start to see people, like,
you know, different treatments coming out that were more effective
(06:07):
and people it wasn't the death sentence that it was
back in the nineties. People are living longer, healthier lives.
Magic Johnson is still alive and kicking. Yeah, And that's
that's the thing, is that a lot of the lessons
that we Gen xers learned about sex and sexuality got
lost on a lot of generations, so you're probably going
to see more cases of you know, people not necessarily
(06:28):
knowing what they're doing sexually as far as disease goes,
but the mystique and the questions of actually, you know,
sex and sex what it actually is. They're getting those
questions answered by the Internet.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Now, okay, if I understand you correctly, whereas our generation
we dealt with the fear and the consequences of gen
Z is not dissuaded by fear.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
They're just disinterested.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, their emotional and physical needs are being met in
other ways. They they have online, real relationships with people.
We were talking about AI. That's a burgeoning field right
now where there's a lot more people getting into relationships
with AI. But there it's it's becoming something where sex
is the game. Like the reward the risk reward of
(07:16):
it is slowly no longer balancing. More people or less
people are looking to have families and have kids because
their emotional needs are being met in other ways. And
we were talking about how like you know, the there's
like a population slump here and also especially in Japan,
this thing isn't what we're talking about isn't something that's
just impacting us here in the United States. It's almost
(07:37):
a worldwide phenomenon.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Right when we say gen Z, we're talking about people
who were born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Those individuals obviously are around twenty eight, but they are
still within the sweet spot of the child bearing years.
In other words, they have the lion's share responsibility of
having and starting the families now at this point, and
they see, well, we know that gen Z, they're less
likely to drive, they're less likely to have sex, they're
less likely to start a family.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
What drives them? Then? Really all of their needs are
met at home.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Guys are sitting at home playing video games, having no
They're having online conversations with people in their virtual worlds.
They are getting their needs met through. If they're into porn,
they can have their sexual needs met online. If they
want to have more of like that verbal interaction with people,
they can do it much more safely online by having
(08:35):
like a sexting relationship with somebody versus having an actual
in person relationship. You're starting to see that in Japan,
where they're actually looking for people to move out there
to have babies out there to help stop the decline
in the population out there.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
But did you look at a place like China was
like no one child at maximum.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, and that's they've done a good job of controlling
population because they were really pushing the population issue. And
now it's become something where like they China's more or
less known for being so restrictive about having sex and
having kids that that's they mastered the art of birth
control over there. They've really focused on it. Where here,
(09:14):
I'm we're starting to see, you know, politicians and billionaires
going out of their ways telling people we need to
start having way more kids because they're afraid of like
the workforce here diminishing, and we're trying to get a
lot of people out of this country, I guess, and
we're going to fill those roles with more and more people.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Let me just respond to that before we go to
break it's it seems to me as counterintuitive because we
already have an exploding homeless population. We already have more
people who are unemployed than jobs. Big picture for the
future will exist, So what would be the argument to
have more kids if we can't accommodate more people.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's because more kids means more workers, more people can
be out there working in those jobs that are going
to be coming up.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
The more we're absolutely and there's going to be people
getting paid less and less money to do jobs.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I mean, really, we used to get away with having
one job. Now all of us have to have several
jobs in order to get by. And it's you're gonna
need the workforce if you're going to be eliminating a
huge chunk of the population here that's working actively. And
so a lot of the people are having less and
less sex for a bunch of reasons. Their emotional and
sexual needs are being met in other ways. But now
(10:30):
there's also political pressure on people to have kids, and
that changes the discussion because we were talking about a
little bit last week about some of the laws, the
legislation that's going through aimed at restricting pleasure and sex
and sexual expression. So these are all things that are
now on the table and we'll go into that in
(10:51):
the next I've got fourteen states currently that have anti porn,
anti sex toy legislation on the books.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Doctor Samza, the sex Dotye is in and he's holding court.
He has a lot of great information for all of us.
It's Later with mo Kelly KFIM six forty live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
KFI AM six forty. The Sex Doctor is in. Sam
Zea continues to join us here in Studio Sam. Last segment,
we were talking about how gen Z has pulled away
from the whole idea of sex as far as participation.
It doesn't have the same level of importance or influence
over their lives in the way that the previous generations
(11:36):
had a control over us, you could say, but also
that's how people are changing, but also laws are changing
around the country.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Well, the author of the article that you had sent
me was talking about how she was also very much
like consumed with her own virginity growing up, and it
seems like people nowadays, younger people X or gen z
ers are much more are likely to not take that
stuff as seriously. So it's really the game as far
as sex goes, has changed. The information around it. The
(12:08):
content around it is so easily accessible, and people are
actually getting pretty decent information where before a lot of
times people who they you know, when they're looking for
any information regarding sex or sexuality, they'd usually be asking
somebody who has less information in them as far as
that goes, So now the people are getting reasonably good
(12:30):
sexual information online, it's just making sure you have it
in the right context. But as far as laws go,
and what the problem is is that for all the
good education you can get online about sex and sexuality,
a lot of that stuff is going to be thrown
out with the bathwater with a lot of these uh
legislation going through aim to restrict access to online porn
(12:52):
and also not just that, restrict access to people getting
adult novelty toys, sex toys like we were talking about
last week.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
But we know, just from history, our personal lives, and
you know, life in general, restricting access to pornographic materials
has never decreased either the demand or the access.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Really yeah, But the only thing that it does is
it makes it so people now have to go to
different sources to ask those questions, and the people giving
those answers are going to be ones where, let's say,
the government is going to be much more approving of
what those answers are going to be. So now you're
going to have people not looking online or not having
(13:37):
as much access, so especially in those formative years when
you may have a lot of questions but you're way
too embarrassed to ask the people around you. So you
go online. Now you're not gonna be able to get
any answer.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So it was different because when I was growing up,
we didn't have any online. Our knowledge base was the
extension of the friends we hung out with. Yeah, you know,
so you asked him, hey, what about this or what
about that? And hopefully you had a decent source to
get information from. Usually you don't because their knuckleheads, just
like you are. Yeah, if you have, you're lucky.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I had an older sibling and so I got to
I got to raid his adult magazine stash because he
was a lot. It was like seven years older than yeapening. Yeah,
so I got to learn a little bit from them. Also,
I was lucky enough to have a family that was
really on top of that stuff. My parents, my mom
and dad, were totally on top of me getting as
much education about sex and sexuality as possible. Most people
(14:30):
do not have parents as accepting of sex and sexuality.
So my mom is a psychoanalyst and her bathroom. Her
toilet seat reading was a book called The New Sex Therapy,
and it had actual pencil sketch drawings in it. So
I learned all about that stuff because I, you know,
I did learn to read on the toylet.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
That didn't weird you out, that didn't un nerve you.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
It did, But I also was like, this is interesting.
I was at the same time fascinated by it. So
I just I guess that's where a lot of my
my inclination towards this field kind of got started. But
there's a lot of legislation now going around. Fourteen states,
most recently South Dakota jumped in with laws that aim
to restrict access to online porn by making people provide
(15:14):
either picture of their license, some form of ID, some
way to verify that they are over eighteen. The Supreme
Court voted six to three saying that this is constitutional.
Went right down party lines. It was the the case
was Free Speech Coalition versus Paxton and Texas. More, since
(15:34):
Texas is kind of a bellweather state when it comes
to this kind of legislation, you're slowly going to start
seeing more and more states adopting legislation similar to this.
Just because Texas took that step forward. Absolutely and full disclosure.
I'm a member of the Free Speech Coalition. It's the
political action committee that tries to do the best they
(15:56):
can to advocate for the rights of adult film performers.
Uh but yeah, for all of that, and you know,
there's going to be a bunch of other conservative states
following suit.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
And this brings up a question for me.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
For all the people demanding smaller government, this seems like
the opposite, where we're finding ways to have the government
start to get directly into our bedroom. I mean we
I brought a bag full of sex toys.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And I hate to interrupt you, but this is maybe
you're not old enough to know the ways of the world,
but we were never a country about keeping the government
out of our bedroom. Historically, the government has always been
in our bedroom.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But I was hoping that, you know, times of change
and people put more of their money where their mouth
is when that with that kind of thing. But I
mean I came in with a bag of sex toys
and lubes and stuff like that last week that if
I had been traveling through and got pulled over in Texas,
I would have been put in prison for distributing like that,
like like the same way that you would get by drugs.
(17:00):
They have the same kind the laws for sex toys,
and for me, I have a hard time with trying
to legislate people's access to pleasure when it's not harming
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
That has always been the issue with let's say, prostitution.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
The government has always been in people's business when it
comes to bedroom activity. Always the laws as far as
sodomy going back into the early twentieth century, always been
an issue. And we can say before Loving versus Virginia
as far as interracial marriage is always been in people's
(17:35):
lives in bedroom. The only difference now is we just
changed the subject matter or the heading. But it's always
been the same, Doctor Sam, I have to run, but
it's always great having you in studio.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
You're going to come back and see us next week.
Hopefully I'll be around.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm actually going to be maybe running the Chargers game
because that's the first football game of the season and
I'm still an employee of iHeart.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
They have they officially made that announcement.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yet, I'm not sure I know that Thursday is the
first game. Yeah, they've told us I don't know if
they've told everyone else. I told us yeeah, So I
might be here. I might have to run in and
do a quick little hello, hi there, and hello.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Oh that's right, because that's next Thursday.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, but if I'm not going to be too consumed
with that, I will definitely be here to give you
some more sex advice.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Sam the Sex Doctor. We appreciate you. I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
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