August 15, 2025 • 16 mins
ICYMI: ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘The Sex Doctor Is In’ w/ Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352), PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality weighing in on the advancements in Kink “A.I. Sexbots” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Sam z six Stop He's a stop.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dot sx do sex Later Later.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about a I
and the update of check g p T to I
Guess version five, and for some people it was disconcerting
because they weren't interact actually with the same my word
persda that they had been. And as we welcome doctor
Samzia to the show tonight, I was informed by him
(01:10):
that it's impacted a number of types of relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Take it from there. Yeah, well, another person.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You know, we've been kind of keeping an eye on
how the stories that have been coming up about people
who have been having romantic and sexual relationships with AI
chatbot companions. And another person, a twenty seven year old woman,
claims that her AI chatbot boyfriend Casper, proposed to her
(01:37):
from a virtual mountaintop scene. Casper helped pick out a
ring after five months of dating. She says she's fully
aware of what's going on her friends and everybody she
has a social life in the real world, but this
is what she's now buying into as far as companionship
and having a romantic relationship goes This comes off the
heels of a guy who is married, has a kid
(02:01):
and asked his AI chatbot to get married to him,
and the chatbots said yes.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So now we you know, you're starting to see.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Does that count as polygamy only if he actually goes
through with the marriage.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's just I don't know how he can consummate that.
That's another story.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, there's a discussion we had some other day about
whether that constitutes as cheating emotionally on some level.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Well, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They've had conversations with the guy's wife about it, and
she's like, obviously weirded out as most people would be
about it, but she's also in love with her husband,
and she has a kid with him, and she's trying
to find a way to manage life in a way
that can balance all of those things together. Now, we
were talking about it in the last hour with Marsha Collier.
(02:49):
She was talking about how chat GBT had an update
chat to GBT five and she was talking about, like
the AI that she uses for her research changed completely,
has a different voice, a different tone, a different way
of speaking. You would think that with that update they
would have more enhancements to it to make it so
(03:09):
that people have a deeper sense of connection and interaction
with them, But what they ended up getting was responses
that became more curt and quote unquote boring responses from
the AI. So this led users who spent a lot
of time developing these virtual relationships with their AI they've
now they've been replaced with ones that are cold, less
(03:29):
welcoming than the previous iteration. They're now going on Reddit
to share their feelings of loss and commiserate with other
users who are on the same boat as that loss. Yeah,
they're blaming open ai for killing their quote unquote soulmates
because that's the thing. People are looking at these relationships
(03:50):
like soulmate relationships. And now there's subreddits out there like
my boyfriend is AI or AI soulmates, and they're people
literally on those pages more the death of their AI partners.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
If I were to call that, and I mean this
only somewhat disrespectfully, but if I were to call that
Sam the sex doctor some degree of psychosis, how would
you respond to that?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
For it would be something that I would say is
a cultural and social thing. If it was like say,
if this kind of thing was happening where nobody was
like having these virtual relationships, then I would say there's
maybe some level of pathology behind it. But now that
we're starting to see it become socially acceptable, and you're
starting like you know, in a decade it's going to
(04:35):
be that much more acceptable, it's really hard to look
at it as something that's pathological when it's becoming more
socially acceptable. What is considered pathological for one generation is
not pathological.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
For enough now that I'll definitely agree with.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But there's something unnerving to be when you ascribe the
real world and our social mores to the aire artificial
artificial world. It just doesn't seem to jibe where we're
going to have real emotions over an unreal entity.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, and you make a very good point.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's because we tend to like, especially us, we grew
up with interactions with other humans. AI interactions was like
kind fantasyland, not realistic. And now that that has presented
itself as a real option for people, people of our
generation who are used to human interactions are immediately rolling
our eyes, want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Where the and we talked about in previous weeks where
younger generations, like thirty percent of I believe, what was
it millennials view in the relationships with AI as being
viable options, and that percentage is only going to go
up as we get older, because more and more people
are going to be growing up with that as an automatic,
(05:57):
built in part of their lives. Just like how I
remember life before the Internet, and you know, going out
and playing in the in the streets and going and
hanging out. And then I now see generations of people
coming up who don't know what life was like before
the Internet. That right, It's going to be the exact
same kind of thing, because there's going to be generations
of people where this is going to be a built in,
(06:17):
viable option for companionship.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Now, if you were not born before nineteen ninety, you
don't remember life without the internet.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I still, you know, dream and reminisce about those
days constantly. But you know, for people in those days
to find somebody who was, you know, just sitting at
home on a computer all day long, just typing away
and you know, just having whatever interactions with that computer
back then, people would have may have considered part of that.
(06:49):
You know, some they would have found some psychopathology behind that.
But nowadays that's literally how people are working like that's
just like that's their work day. If they're working from home,
they're doing it, sitting in front of the computer doing that.
It's now become completely normalized. In ten fifteen years, I
get the feeling these AI relationships are going to be
totally normalized while people our age are going to be
(07:11):
sending there rolling our eyes at the idea.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I'm rolling now. I'm rolling my eyes.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Right now, we gonna have more with doctor Sam Zea,
the Sex Doctor. He's in right now KFI AM six
forty one Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
KFI Moe Kelly, Sam the Sex Doctor is still in.
Sam Before the break, we were talking about AI, the
update of chat GPT GPT five and the unintended consequences,
how people were bemoaning the loss of established relationships with
the previous iterations of chat GPT. But there are other
(07:56):
components to sex and AI, are there not?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And the backlash by the way for to Open Ai
after they had the new GBT five come out was
so strong that the company announced that they'll be bringing
back chat GPT four. I think it was forty or
four to zero and there. But it's going to be
an option for people who were paid users. So, you know,
(08:23):
the the the outcry after so many people had their
AI partners killed and made it so that they the.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Company themselves said yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We'll bring back that previous iteration for if you're willing
to pay for the service.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So it's still there, credible.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Now there's other AI companies out there that have different
methods and different ways of programming the the chatbots that
the people interact with. Someone like Meta's AI has been
programmed to be a little more flirtatious and it will
engage in sensual conversations. Elon's AI, the Xai, the one
(09:01):
that you can find on Zach Rock. Yeah, well I'm
not sure if that's Rock, but it's Xai. It's a
specific AI like chat gpt okay, that one has AI
avatars that stripped down to underwear and talk dirty to you.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
And most of the company.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, now, most of the companies out there are you know,
trying to find ways to protect users, protect primarily minors.
But there are still some companies out there that are
totally steering into the more salacious stuff and are trying
to get more of the users that want to get
dirty with AI.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Ronner, I'm talking to you on this one. By wait,
let me jump there before you ask Mark Ronner. Don't
they know the people who are using chat gptwo of
these AI chat bots for these relationships, don't they know
that all that information, all that input is being saved.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I'm sure they do. But nowadays everybody knows that almost
every detail of their lives if they have a cell
phone on them. You know, everybody's so worried about, you know,
being tracked and everything. When we're busy tracking ourselves on
Facebook telling people where we're at. But you know, there's
a lot of people out there who were like, you know,
(10:10):
they they would go and do dirty things on webcams
and they're like, aren't you worried about the government watching you?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And it's like some people like the audience.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Some people like knowing that there's somebody watching, and that's
why they do it. So but that's that's the thing
all these you know, companies out there trying to put
up safeguards and trying to avoid the you know, trying
to get avoid getting into the dirtier parts of communication
with AI. Some of them out there are like, yeah,
we totally want to get into that. And one of
(10:40):
them was from an adult adult film production company, Kink
out of San Francisco. These are some of the people
who are like the foremost purveyors of BDSM adult film
content and some of the things that may be a
little not on the vanilla side of the sexual of
the sexual spectrum. Well, I just took a look at
(11:02):
their website for their kink ai program, and ron Er,
you might want to take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
This is fascinating. On a work computer, I think not it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is not safe for work, but you have a phone,
you can look at them there. This AI allows users
to role play with AI, allowing users to pick from
hundreds of difference of different characters to play with. And
you can see they have like avatars that are lifelike,
realistic human looking avatars that will engage with you, talk
(11:33):
with you, do basically whatever you would see a cam
model too.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You can make requests and it will honor that request
yes or is it just more verbal interaction?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No, whatever, if you make if you ask it to
do something, it can do it. It also is a
AI image generator, so people if they want to come
up with what they call art, if you want to
qualify it as art. But coming up with fake AI
images of BDS seven scenes.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Knowing that it's not real, does absolutely zero for me.
I want it to be. I want to interact with
a real human being who's hit rock bottom.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I'm with you, Mark, there has to be some real interplay,
you know, otherwise I'm just might as well be talking
to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, and you know when I talk about this stuff,
I just found out about kin k a I like
an hour ago, but a lot of other people out
there have found out about this, and they've had over
twenty five million messages from AI to users.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
See that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean I always say we like what we like,
and a lot of what we like is not for
public consumption. You know, there's shame obviously attributed to sex
and the things that we like in its various forms.
But you know, we all like something, yeah, and we're
going to find what we like.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Also, what's the novelty factor? I think that as soon
as that dies down, people are going to have not
much interest in this.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm not sure. I think people are going to be
into it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
As long as their sex they'll be interested and a
lot one of the bigger things. I mean, I know
with BDSM, shaming is a big part of it and
stuff like that. There's a lot of people who are
turning to AI because they don't want to be shamed
by another human when expressing those sexual desires. When you
have an AI that's programmed to be caring and supportive
or being kinky and supportive, it makes it so that
(13:25):
they're going to feel more free to communicate those feelings
that they may feel like they could get judged harshly
by a human.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Is it BDSM when they like trash your emotions or
that can be part of it?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, No, that can be part of it. Shame, Like
there is consensual shame. There are people who get off
on being shamed. That's absolutely a big part of it.
But with this it's it's not so much the shaming aspect.
That's the like the visual content question.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
To the best you know in your research, does the
I have a backstory? In other words, if I were
to interact with it. Can I ask the AI about itself?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Where did you grow up? You know, where you're from.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Does it have a profile that it follows. Does it
have daddy issues? Yes, it's got elon issues. Actually that's
what they call it. No, they can now what was
your question again? Do they have a backstory? Do they
have a cover?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
No, they will have a backstory, but there's also ones
that people can create the backstory for them and make
it so that, you know, like it fulfills more of
that individual's fantasy. But really a lot of them if
you look at it, like you, if you look at
the pictures of the AI images, the avatars that they
have on kink ai, they are very like you could
(14:51):
tell the kind of p like what their target, what
audience they were trying to target with those specific images. Okay,
like you know that, Like with I can't even describe
the images that they have on the website. Don't because
if I do, I might shut down the whole show. Yeah,
we can imagine. Yeah, And that's the best part is
(15:12):
that all of this and you have biggest erogena zone
in the body is the brain. And that's the thing
is that this is go it like when you're talking
about AI, you have a partner who is willing and
open and taking all of your suggestions without shaming you
back about it and not saying no. So for people
(15:32):
looking to engage in their various kinks, this gives them
a free like without the feeling of like, I want
to bring this up to somebody, but I'm so worried
about what their reaction is going to be.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Will they shut me down? You don't have to worry
about that. With the AI. It takes all the sport
out of it, all of it. Is it free? Just
asking for a friend.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm sure you have to pay for it, but I'm
sure there's free versions of AI that.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Are going to be totally kink with you, Robin. Nothing
is ever free. Yeah, yeah, there is a toll one
way or another. You will pay a toll.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Gas ass or grass I will wait for free.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Doctor Sam appreciate you. Hey, It's always a pleasure mode.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
It's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty live
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Speaker 1 (16:22):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Sam z six Stop He's a stop.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Dot sx do sex Later Later.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about a I
and the update of check g p T to I
Guess version five, and for some people it was disconcerting
because they weren't interact actually with the same my word
persda that they had been. And as we welcome doctor
Samzia to the show tonight, I was informed by him
(01:10):
that it's impacted a number of types of relationships.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Take it from there. Yeah, well, another person.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
You know, we've been kind of keeping an eye on
how the stories that have been coming up about people
who have been having romantic and sexual relationships with AI
chatbot companions. And another person, a twenty seven year old woman,
claims that her AI chatbot boyfriend Casper, proposed to her
(01:37):
from a virtual mountaintop scene. Casper helped pick out a
ring after five months of dating. She says she's fully
aware of what's going on her friends and everybody she
has a social life in the real world, but this
is what she's now buying into as far as companionship
and having a romantic relationship goes This comes off the
heels of a guy who is married, has a kid
(02:01):
and asked his AI chatbot to get married to him,
and the chatbots said yes.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So now we you know, you're starting to see.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Does that count as polygamy only if he actually goes
through with the marriage.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's just I don't know how he can consummate that.
That's another story.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, there's a discussion we had some other day about
whether that constitutes as cheating emotionally on some level.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Well, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
They've had conversations with the guy's wife about it, and
she's like, obviously weirded out as most people would be
about it, but she's also in love with her husband,
and she has a kid with him, and she's trying
to find a way to manage life in a way
that can balance all of those things together. Now, we
were talking about it in the last hour with Marsha Collier.
(02:49):
She was talking about how chat GBT had an update
chat to GBT five and she was talking about, like
the AI that she uses for her research changed completely,
has a different voice, a different tone, a different way
of speaking. You would think that with that update they
would have more enhancements to it to make it so
(03:09):
that people have a deeper sense of connection and interaction
with them, But what they ended up getting was responses
that became more curt and quote unquote boring responses from
the AI. So this led users who spent a lot
of time developing these virtual relationships with their AI they've
now they've been replaced with ones that are cold, less
(03:29):
welcoming than the previous iteration. They're now going on Reddit
to share their feelings of loss and commiserate with other
users who are on the same boat as that loss. Yeah,
they're blaming open ai for killing their quote unquote soulmates
because that's the thing. People are looking at these relationships
(03:50):
like soulmate relationships. And now there's subreddits out there like
my boyfriend is AI or AI soulmates, and they're people
literally on those pages more the death of their AI partners.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
If I were to call that, and I mean this
only somewhat disrespectfully, but if I were to call that
Sam the sex doctor some degree of psychosis, how would
you respond to that?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
For it would be something that I would say is
a cultural and social thing. If it was like say,
if this kind of thing was happening where nobody was
like having these virtual relationships, then I would say there's
maybe some level of pathology behind it. But now that
we're starting to see it become socially acceptable, and you're
starting like you know, in a decade it's going to
(04:35):
be that much more acceptable, it's really hard to look
at it as something that's pathological when it's becoming more
socially acceptable. What is considered pathological for one generation is
not pathological.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
For enough now that I'll definitely agree with.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But there's something unnerving to be when you ascribe the
real world and our social mores to the aire artificial
artificial world. It just doesn't seem to jibe where we're
going to have real emotions over an unreal entity.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, and you make a very good point.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's because we tend to like, especially us, we grew
up with interactions with other humans. AI interactions was like
kind fantasyland, not realistic. And now that that has presented
itself as a real option for people, people of our
generation who are used to human interactions are immediately rolling
our eyes, want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Where the and we talked about in previous weeks where
younger generations, like thirty percent of I believe, what was
it millennials view in the relationships with AI as being
viable options, and that percentage is only going to go
up as we get older, because more and more people
are going to be growing up with that as an automatic,
(05:57):
built in part of their lives. Just like how I
remember life before the Internet, and you know, going out
and playing in the in the streets and going and
hanging out. And then I now see generations of people
coming up who don't know what life was like before
the Internet. That right, It's going to be the exact
same kind of thing, because there's going to be generations
of people where this is going to be a built in,
(06:17):
viable option for companionship.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Now, if you were not born before nineteen ninety, you
don't remember life without the internet.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, that's a that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I still, you know, dream and reminisce about those
days constantly. But you know, for people in those days
to find somebody who was, you know, just sitting at
home on a computer all day long, just typing away
and you know, just having whatever interactions with that computer
back then, people would have may have considered part of that.
(06:49):
You know, some they would have found some psychopathology behind that.
But nowadays that's literally how people are working like that's
just like that's their work day. If they're working from home,
they're doing it, sitting in front of the computer doing that.
It's now become completely normalized. In ten fifteen years, I
get the feeling these AI relationships are going to be
totally normalized while people our age are going to be
(07:11):
sending there rolling our eyes at the idea.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I'm rolling now. I'm rolling my eyes.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Right now, we gonna have more with doctor Sam Zea,
the Sex Doctor. He's in right now KFI AM six
forty one Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
KFI Moe Kelly, Sam the Sex Doctor is still in.
Sam Before the break, we were talking about AI, the
update of chat GPT GPT five and the unintended consequences,
how people were bemoaning the loss of established relationships with
the previous iterations of chat GPT. But there are other
(07:56):
components to sex and AI, are there not?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And the backlash by the way for to Open Ai
after they had the new GBT five come out was
so strong that the company announced that they'll be bringing
back chat GPT four. I think it was forty or
four to zero and there. But it's going to be
an option for people who were paid users. So, you know,
(08:23):
the the the outcry after so many people had their
AI partners killed and made it so that they the.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Company themselves said yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We'll bring back that previous iteration for if you're willing
to pay for the service.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So it's still there, credible.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Now there's other AI companies out there that have different
methods and different ways of programming the the chatbots that
the people interact with. Someone like Meta's AI has been
programmed to be a little more flirtatious and it will
engage in sensual conversations. Elon's AI, the Xai, the one
(09:01):
that you can find on Zach Rock. Yeah, well I'm
not sure if that's Rock, but it's Xai. It's a
specific AI like chat gpt okay, that one has AI
avatars that stripped down to underwear and talk dirty to you.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
And most of the company.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, now, most of the companies out there are you know,
trying to find ways to protect users, protect primarily minors.
But there are still some companies out there that are
totally steering into the more salacious stuff and are trying
to get more of the users that want to get
dirty with AI.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Ronner, I'm talking to you on this one. By wait,
let me jump there before you ask Mark Ronner. Don't
they know the people who are using chat gptwo of
these AI chat bots for these relationships, don't they know
that all that information, all that input is being saved.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I'm sure they do. But nowadays everybody knows that almost
every detail of their lives if they have a cell
phone on them. You know, everybody's so worried about, you know,
being tracked and everything. When we're busy tracking ourselves on
Facebook telling people where we're at. But you know, there's
a lot of people out there who were like, you know,
(10:10):
they they would go and do dirty things on webcams
and they're like, aren't you worried about the government watching you?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And it's like some people like the audience.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Some people like knowing that there's somebody watching, and that's
why they do it. So but that's that's the thing
all these you know, companies out there trying to put
up safeguards and trying to avoid the you know, trying
to get avoid getting into the dirtier parts of communication
with AI. Some of them out there are like, yeah,
we totally want to get into that. And one of
(10:40):
them was from an adult adult film production company, Kink
out of San Francisco. These are some of the people
who are like the foremost purveyors of BDSM adult film
content and some of the things that may be a
little not on the vanilla side of the sexual of
the sexual spectrum. Well, I just took a look at
(11:02):
their website for their kink ai program, and ron Er,
you might want to take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
This is fascinating. On a work computer, I think not it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is not safe for work, but you have a phone,
you can look at them there. This AI allows users
to role play with AI, allowing users to pick from
hundreds of difference of different characters to play with. And
you can see they have like avatars that are lifelike,
realistic human looking avatars that will engage with you, talk
(11:33):
with you, do basically whatever you would see a cam
model too.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You can make requests and it will honor that request
yes or is it just more verbal interaction?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No, whatever, if you make if you ask it to
do something, it can do it. It also is a
AI image generator, so people if they want to come
up with what they call art, if you want to
qualify it as art. But coming up with fake AI
images of BDS seven scenes.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Knowing that it's not real, does absolutely zero for me.
I want it to be. I want to interact with
a real human being who's hit rock bottom.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I'm with you, Mark, there has to be some real interplay,
you know, otherwise I'm just might as well be talking
to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, and you know when I talk about this stuff,
I just found out about kin k a I like
an hour ago, but a lot of other people out
there have found out about this, and they've had over
twenty five million messages from AI to users.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
See that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean I always say we like what we like,
and a lot of what we like is not for
public consumption. You know, there's shame obviously attributed to sex
and the things that we like in its various forms.
But you know, we all like something, yeah, and we're
going to find what we like.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Also, what's the novelty factor? I think that as soon
as that dies down, people are going to have not
much interest in this.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm not sure. I think people are going to be
into it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
As long as their sex they'll be interested and a
lot one of the bigger things. I mean, I know
with BDSM, shaming is a big part of it and
stuff like that. There's a lot of people who are
turning to AI because they don't want to be shamed
by another human when expressing those sexual desires. When you
have an AI that's programmed to be caring and supportive
or being kinky and supportive, it makes it so that
(13:25):
they're going to feel more free to communicate those feelings
that they may feel like they could get judged harshly
by a human.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Is it BDSM when they like trash your emotions or
that can be part of it?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, No, that can be part of it. Shame, Like
there is consensual shame. There are people who get off
on being shamed. That's absolutely a big part of it.
But with this it's it's not so much the shaming aspect.
That's the like the visual content question.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
To the best you know in your research, does the
I have a backstory? In other words, if I were
to interact with it. Can I ask the AI about itself?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Where did you grow up? You know, where you're from.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Does it have a profile that it follows. Does it
have daddy issues? Yes, it's got elon issues. Actually that's
what they call it. No, they can now what was
your question again? Do they have a backstory? Do they
have a cover?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
No, they will have a backstory, but there's also ones
that people can create the backstory for them and make
it so that, you know, like it fulfills more of
that individual's fantasy. But really a lot of them if
you look at it, like you, if you look at
the pictures of the AI images, the avatars that they
have on kink ai, they are very like you could
(14:51):
tell the kind of p like what their target, what
audience they were trying to target with those specific images. Okay,
like you know that, Like with I can't even describe
the images that they have on the website. Don't because
if I do, I might shut down the whole show. Yeah,
we can imagine. Yeah, And that's the best part is
(15:12):
that all of this and you have biggest erogena zone
in the body is the brain. And that's the thing
is that this is go it like when you're talking
about AI, you have a partner who is willing and
open and taking all of your suggestions without shaming you
back about it and not saying no. So for people
(15:32):
looking to engage in their various kinks, this gives them
a free like without the feeling of like, I want
to bring this up to somebody, but I'm so worried
about what their reaction is going to be.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Will they shut me down? You don't have to worry
about that. With the AI. It takes all the sport
out of it, all of it. Is it free? Just
asking for a friend.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm sure you have to pay for it, but I'm
sure there's free versions of AI that.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Are going to be totally kink with you, Robin. Nothing
is ever free. Yeah, yeah, there is a toll one
way or another. You will pay a toll.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Gas ass or grass I will wait for free.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Doctor Sam appreciate you. Hey, It's always a pleasure mode.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
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