TSA screens more than bags as Kristi Noem blames Democrats for the shutdown—on airport TVs. Speaker Mike Johnson digs in, predicting the longest shutdown ever. Meanwhile, burnout hits a record high, and Gen Z gets shown the door—again.
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I appreciate you doing that. Man, A nice job on that.
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I always love it when I just love it when
Ricky reaches out and he goes, hey, what do you need?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What can I do? How do I make this better? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
God, you know how much I love working with people.
I just want to make everything a little bit better.
You know, I got to work, and I want to work.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I love it. I love it. I love it because
I work.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've worked with people in the past, not here, but
I've worked with other people that are like, are we done?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
If you just say, if you got time, how do
we make it better? You know, that's the way I
look at it. So I appreciate you. I appreciate you
got that attitude. You're a hustler.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I dig that every damn hustle in That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then Mark Ronner, the coolest guy on the show,
who gets invited.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
To go hang out. Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He is so cool, he says, Nah, Tim, Nah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I think it's more a matter of I've become a
shut in with no social skills.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's not how it plays not in my book.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, I'll just accept that as a massive compliment from you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So uh to be perfectly frank, I have I have
a little flight coming up here at the end of
the month, and normally pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I just I fly into Chicago and then I go up.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
My My wife is at our place in northern Michigan,
and I'm really looking forward to somewhere has been the
last week of the month with her and do some
stuff around the house and that sort of thing. So
I'm a little nervous though that the that the shutdown
is going to affect air travel, I know already has
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or been you know, air traffic controllers that have called
out there. Obviously, Burbank was the first airport that that
basically shut down for an evening because they didn't have
air traffic controllers. And and I saw Austin did it
this week. That worries me. And then of course he
got TSA and they're you know, they're not getting paid,
and so how much do they want to go to work?
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They're probably thinking, well, I could just call in sick
and then drive uber all day long. At least I
get a paycheck so I can try to pay some
of my bills. And if I call in sick, I
can use my sick time and I'm gonna get my.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Back pay eventually. Right. So, I'm a little nervous about
those lines getting longer and longer.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then I'm a little nervous that while I'm standing
in line, I'm gonna start becoming very angry because one
thing I do not want while I'm standing in line
is in doctrination. I do not want to be preached
to while I'm standing in line of the airport on
government sponsored in doctrination tapes, which is exactly what Christyl
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is doing. She wants to make sure you're seeing her
message about the shutdown. Let me tell you something, Christy
Nome means no from NBCLA.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
The effort to blame Democrats for the shutdown apparent in
a new video from Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, which
DHS has asked airports to show on monitors at TSA checkpoints.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government, and
because of this, many of our operations are impacted.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Scores of airports have refused to run the video, among
them Lax and Burbank, Orange County is considering the request.
All report they have a policy against running videos with
a political.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Message as well.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They should there should not be in doctrination at the airport,
for Pete's sake. Conservatives threw such a hissy fit because
many airports had CNN on at the gates, and they went, oh,
everywhere I go, there's CNN, and I don't want to
watch the Clinton News Network. And so airport stopped carrying
CNN on the monitor on the TVs at the gates.
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And now many places you don't have any TV. So
I hope you're happy you get nothing. I don't like
the idea of again, my tax dollar is going toward
a politician who's going to use their power to try
to force their message down my throat. Now, let me
be clear, and a lot of you are going to
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you're not gonna like what I have to say about this,
but this is where I stand. The polling numbers show
that the majority of Americans blame both sides of Congress,
and they blame the president and the Republican Party more
than they blame the Democrats. I, however, I blame the
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Democrats on this. The government shutdown is because the Democrats
are not signing onto a bill that has enough votes
to pass, and the Republicans have control of the House
and the Senate. They've put continuing resolutions forward. Democrats are
the ones who are stopping it from advancing. Now, they
may be on principled ground, but if we're talking about
who is stopping the bill from being.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Passed, it's the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Now, the Democrats have proposed their own that doesn't go
anywhere either, But the Republicans have control of the House
and the Senate.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They have control of the purse strings.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right now, the Democrats are using their position to try
to negotiate to not have Medicare cut off. Right, we'll
talk more about this year in just a few moments.
The Republicans don't have this bill and they go, we
just have to pass this. That said, I don't even
care if what Christy Gnoam is saying, I have a
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general agreement with that. I think the Democrats are responsible
for this government shutdown. I blame the majority of the Democrats.
Excuse me, I put the majority of the blame on
the Democrats. I also think it takes two to tango,
so Republicans are not without culpability, but as far as
not signing on, it's the Democrats just from a procedural standpoint.
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But Christy Nome using her position to try to force
this down my throat while I'm standing in line and
having my toes tickled with my shoes off is not okay.
And keep this in mind, because this is really what
it's about. It's not even about getting their message out
to you and me as we're standing in line at
the TSA.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's not even about you and me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The people most directly affected by the shutdown at the
airport are the TSA agents, and they're the ones that
have to sit and hear that message on a NonStop loop.
It is classic brainwashing technique. Captive audience. Keep repeating the message,
the reason you're suffering is because of them. The reason
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you're suffering is because of them. The reason you're suffering
is because of them, over and over and over and
over again. For eight hours at a job you're not
even getting paid for.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This is about making sure that TSA agents snap in line,
that they don't call out sick, that they don't take
their misery out on the Republican politicians.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Sure you and I hearing that message where we otherwise
might not hear the propaganda. That's a nice little added benefit,
But it's all about making sure those people hear the
message blaming the Democrats. And in the message there are
TSA workers that are being featured and then shown working unpaid.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Now, look, I'm a little bit concerned because I don't
want to miss my flight.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I want to get home. I want to go spend
a week with my wife.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
We call it sexy time, and I'm going to miss
out on that if we have too many TSA agents
calling in sick and if we're at again, my flight's
coming up here in ten more days.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
How many days are we.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Into this shutdown mark we're at We're in the third
week now, right, yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Fourteen ishka, I'll have to check. And by the way,
can I add to oh, it's like the first of
the month, so we're at fifteen days? It was the
first of the month. There's one minor detail you may
want to know.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I knew you were going to take Umbridge with my
position ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's not Umbridge. It's just we strive for clarity. The
messages from NOME are against the law. Do yourself favor
and look up something called the Hatch Act.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, yes, anew where you were going.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, it's federal law that prohibits people in government from
engaging in political activity on the clock.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I didn't say anything contradictory to what you just added.
That's fine, you can add that. That's great. But since
when has the Hatch Act stopped anybody from doing anything?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's not really the rationale I would whip out.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, but when does the Hatch Act get used? When
has the Hatch Act been used? It doesn't, It doesn't
get used.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, we haven't seen a ton of Hatch Act prosecutions
in recent history. No, but it's been on the book
since the late thirties, and it's the law of the land,
whether you like it or observe it or not. But
if a law is not enforced, is it really a law. Well,
that's what we have to contend with right now, Right
and you've.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Got an administration that says stop me. You say it's
the law. We say, we don't care, stop me, go
ahead and enforce it. Who's going to enforce the Hatch Act.
Who's going to arrest dhs or fine give a civil
find to the federal government for violating their own law.
The Republican House, the Republican Senate, the Republican administration. No
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one is going to enforce it. So it doesn't even matter.
That's the practicality of it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I agree with you philosophically, but we're not even in
a philosophical or what's right world.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We're in what can I get away with? World?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But that's what's happening. That's exactly what's happening. And it
frustrates me. It shouldn't be happening.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
We should hold ourselves to that standard, but we keep
lowering the bar more and more and more and more.
So you got the lights are off, the doors are locked,
and the people in charge are arguing over something nobody
really knows what.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But hey, at least the drama is free. We got
that we can watch.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You want to watch something on TV, just flip on
Congress arguing how you're about to be affected is next.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
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I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The the video that Christy Nolan wants played at the airport.
And I always get pushed back when I when I
take a stance on something political, which is part of
the reason I don't really talk about political stuff very
much because I find you and I have a lot
more in common than we do. It separates us, but
when it comes to politics, we just we just completely
disregard all of our common ground and we just get
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anger at the other person. So I don't really want
to I don't want I don't want you to be
pissed at me, right, So I don't talk about it
a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But it is a big deal. It is a big topic.
So I want you to think about this.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I have a problem with Christy Noan playing with her
tape blaming the Democrats playing at the airports, that's what
they want to do. Lax says no, Hollywood Birdbanks says no.
But some airports are playing the video. I have a
problem with that, even though I agree.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That that it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Is the Democratic Party that is standing in the way
of getting a budget passed. Right now, I do say
it takes two to tango, but I put I put
a heavier blame on the Democrats. So I actually agree
with some of what she's saying. I don't believe that
it belongs at the airport, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Don't think you do. Even if you agree with her.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Even if right now you say, oh no it does, no, No,
it's a good thing, I don't think you do.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So let's try a little exercise.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Suppose that Governor Batman Gavin Newsom, the real life Bruce Wayne,
were to do the same thing. Suppose that Governor Batman
were to say at LAX San Diego, San Francisco, all
the big airports came on and said, we're glad you're
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flying out of the beautiful state of California. Or welcome
to the beautiful state of California, depending on you know
where it is. We're sorry that you're experiencing delays based
on TSA staffing. This is because of the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You would go, How dare he?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Gavin Newsom shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars to cut any
sort of an indoctrination video that I have to play.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I can't avoid it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
If I want to travel through this major airport, I
have to see his dumb mug telling me that I
should think like him politically, you'd go, California.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Has lost its marbles.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And so even if you are hardcore MAGA and you
agree completely, I don't don't think you actually want that
video plane. And if you think that when the Democrats
take back control that they are somehow going to be
magnanimous and say, wow, that behavior is just unbecoming of
an American, you are dead wrong. They're taking notes right now.
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And when you've got President AOC, because we are pushing
people to the fringes. When President AOC comes around, you
watch what she does. You watch how she decorates the
White House. She's gonna take all that gold crap out
of there. You watch which tree she teares down on
the White House, And all of a sudden, you're gonna,
how dare she? You watch what video she wants running
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at the airports.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And you're, oh, good she that's a violation of the
Hatch Act. And then here say, why isn't anyone enforcing
the Hatch Act. Just remember what's good for the goose,
it's good for the gander. Shut down, continue on for
how long? Mike Johnson says, forever. Both sides are dug
in their heels the longest time. About fifteen years ago,
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the Republicans complained. They said, they said, the.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Democrats don't compromise. They're very well organized, they've got their
messaging down, and we are compromising too often, and because
of that, we always lose. And so the Republicans said,
that's it. We are going to elect strong leaders who
don't compromise, that stand up, that fight. Compromise became a
dirty word on the right. Well you're seeing what's happening
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on the left again. Because it's not like you've got
one party. This can be magnanimous and then let the
other one roll all over them. So now the Republicans
say compromise is a dirty word. The Democrats are now
saying compromise is a dirty word, and since neither side
is willing to compromise, it's just a lot of dirty words.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Now entering week free and the federal shutdown vice is
tightening in it's gript. The nation's airports flight delays are
expected to increase, with air traffic controllers now working without pay.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How long can they work without pay? How long can
you go without getting a paycheck? When a quarter of
this country is paycheck to paycheck?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, it's more than a quarter.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Half the country is paycheck to paycheck at least sixty
percent by the last information I read.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So how long? How long can you go? How long
could you go?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I got my wife now if we both want with
that changes everything? Yeah, well it does because one thing. Look,
we went into debt a few years back.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
We were in a lot of debt, and we buckled
down and I, you know, I got I got blown
out from you know, a couple of gigs because radio.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, my wife makes good money. I make okay money.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And so we decided that we wanted to try to
We're not exactly there right now, but we want to
try to live a lifestyle that either one of our
paychecks could support.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So if I can draw a lesson from what you're saying,
it's that air traffic controllers should all get sugar mamas.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that's everybody's lesson. Okay, huh, how else should you
take it? Exactly what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, so that's anyway,
that's what because we because we learned our lesson the
hard way, okay. Uh, And we were you know, I
was racking up credit cards because I was using that
as my emergency fund because I didn't have one.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So now we've got an emergency fund.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now we try to live so that if either one
of us lost our gig, we would be we would
be able to get by, right, still have to cut back,
but we get we can get by.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So that's where we are right now. But how many
people do that?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And it's only after I that we've made mistakes and
I lost radio gigs that all of a sudden we
wenth oh, we're in dire straits.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So how long can tsa not not to get paid
and keep working? Now, air traffic controllers, they make pretty
good money. They're gonna keep calling in sick, and I
don't know how much how much of a nest egg
they have. I don't know what they have for an
emergency fund.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And maybe after the last shutdowns they said, Okay, we
need to make sure we've got a solid six months
emergency fund, and maybe they do. I hope a lot
of people do. I don't know that the TSA, you know,
the entry level TSA jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Are doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So I got a feeling that they are working at
the airport for free during the day because they want
to maintain the job, because they want all that backpay.
When it finally hits, it's gonna be a massive check.
You're gonna see a little you're gonna see a little
bump and consumer spending around the holidays when everybody gets
all their checks all at once. But in the meantime,
I'm guessing they get out of work and then they
go turn on their uber sign or their their lift
light on their car, or they're door dashing or.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Something, or they're only fans. Yeah, work in the poll. Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Hey, you're not allowed to wear your TSA uniform when
you're doing porn, right, But I don't know what the
etiquette is on that. I'm sure you could wear it.
A similar looking costume. I just gotta x out the
s so it's just tna oh look at you. Come on, Tony,
get on that rim shut that doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That's brilliant. He was the one that told me the
idea that's a really good?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Is that new?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Did you come up with that just for me tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Don't steal it. I'm gonna oh okay, I kind of
love that. It's kind of brilliant. Again, why you're the
smartest man on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It was a throwaway. You can have it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm taking it. I'm taking it all right. I gotta
get away from politics. I'm side of that crap.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It is a burnout jackpot.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're gonna find out who's burning out at work, especially
the paycheck to paycheck crowd, which is most of us.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's next, Chris Merrill.
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Speaker 4 (19:01):
Pj's brew House in Hunting the Beach sixty one sixty
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we've been assured are not crappy.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
There's a new AFLAC Workforces report out. It talks about
burnout among the gen zs and I know what you're thinking,
gen Z, how can you be burnout? You haven't been
at it long enough to have burnout. You don't even
know what it's like. How dare you well listen? Burnout
as relative, gen Z is largely inexperienced in the workplace,
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and so they're kind of being thrust into it and
it can be overwhelming from a value entertainment value valuetainment
their hot take on the gen Z burnout.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Gen Z, there's a very high likely of this video
is gonna piss you off.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm so upset trigger you.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
You may have your microaggression type of a moment. But
for those of you that will hire.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Gen Z, yeah, this is one of those people who's
just mocking the upcoming generation, which is easy to do.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I just find it to be a little bit of
low hanging fruit.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
You're gonna say, I agree with some of the stuff,
but this is purely for some of you that are
between twelve to twenty seven years old, born between ninety
seven and twenty twelve. Now you want to find a
way to have a fighting chance in the future, watch
this video and its entirety. Watch this new statistic.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Watch my video. Yeah, that's what they're doing already. Sticks.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Do you know what percent of gen Z workers claim
they experience burnout at work?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I get scheduled for twenty five hours a week. I'm
literally about to clit.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Not twenty percent, not forty percent, not eighty percent, not
ninety percent. Ninety eight percent of you experience burn.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Up every single day.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Go and work somewhere and do that five times a week.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
How oh, okay, all right, his numbers are off, but
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You're in your early twenties. Watch this twenty three percent
face unmanageable stress and forty eight percent fuel drained. According
to a Signal survey, gen Z is the most stressed
generation of all kind.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
All right, so our reporter here, if you want to
call it that, it's just some rando on the internets.
It feels like he's punching down. And I say that
because we are. We are discounting what gen Z is
going through, and we're like, how dare they as if
we don't remember our first foray into the quote unquote
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real world. Look, we all went through that. It comes
with age. It's why we have coming of age stories.
Everyone is finding their way. The real world hits you hard.
It's been a it's been a theme for years. The
real world hits you hard. And the older generations always
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complain that the younger generations don't want to work, which
of course is a gross generalization. I work with a
number of gen Zers who are really good. They are
immensely good at their jobs. They're very hard workers, not
all of them, and you can find some dopes. So
it's person to person. But the same story about the
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youngest working generation being burned out could have been written
for every generation. It is no coincidence that the generation
with the second highest burnout rate is the Millennials. The
next youngest gen Z seventy four percent say that they
are burned out. Sixty six percent of millennials say that
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they're burned out. Well, how could you be that way?
How could it be? Look, you're in school, you go
to school, You go to school every day, five days
a week. Then you get to June and you're dismissed,
and all of a sudden, first grade's over. Then you're
on to second grade, and you know what's gonna happen.
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You're gonna go to school five days a week. You
know that you're gonna have your Thanksgiving break, you know
you're gonna have your winter break, you're gonna have your
Spring break, and then you're gonna you're gonna get to
to June andville.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Boom, you're out. And then it starts all over. You're
out of second grade, and it starts all over again.
And then you get into high school and you already
know you're supposed to you're supposed to continue on trade school, college,
community college.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Whatever it is. You know what that path is.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And then you go to college and you're in college
and you go, I'm majoring in this, and you go,
I have to have this class in this class, and
this classes and all laid out, and you know you're.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Gonna take your one hundred courses and your two hundred
course and you're three hundred courses and your four underre courses,
and you know what your your workload is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And everything is mapped out, and then you graduate, and
then nothing is mapped out. There is no light at
the end of the tunnel. When you start first grade,
you know that by the end of June, you are
done with first grade. When you start seventh grade, you
know that by the end of June, you're done with
seventh grade. You know that when you start your freshman
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year in four years, you're done with high school.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You've got a diploma.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
When you start college, four years feels like a long time.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
But when you're done, you've accomplished it, You've hit your goal,
and then you're done with it, and no one is
telling you what your next goal is.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No one is setting that path forward. There is no
guidance counselor, and.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then you're walking into an entry level position and you're
doing grunt work even if you've got the degree in
the field that you want to be in, chances are
you're not starting out as the CEO. Chances are you're
not getting your country club benefit package. You're busting your tail.
So yeah, that's stressful, that's daunting, and it can lead
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to burnout. And let's also keep in mind too that
this is a generation that was born in the recession
or right before the recess. Man some were born in
the recession, some were born right before it. So in
their formative years, we're going through a very difficult period.
Then they get into high school or college, and then
we get here with the pandemic, and then you're work
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from home and everything is disrupted and we don't.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Even know that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For Pete's Saint, they're doing school on zoom and now
they hit the workforce and.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
They're supposed to go in they're supposed to know people,
they're supposed to be social, but they didn't have the
social skills talked to them along the way. They didn't
have the chance to make those mistakes in high school,
to say stupid things to the girl, to.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Embarrass themselves. You know at the I don't know do
people go to drive ins or whatever, drive throughs or
whatever anymore. You know, they didn't have those chances to
make mistakes and learn because they were isolated. And now
they're in the workforce, and we expect them to be
completely socially adapted, to have the work ethic of a
World War two soldier returning from home. They don't, and
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they won't, and neither did the millennials, and neither did
my gen xers. And we were all called lazy. We
were all told that we didn't know how to do anything,
and we were all told that the future of America
is in dire straits because this generation sucks.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Well, now the future of America's in the hands of
the baby boomers. Are you happy with the way things
are going?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Survey says more people are unhappy with the direction of
this country than gen zs are feeling burned out, So
maybe just chill, maybe stop punching down, And in fact
that punching down is permeating, not just with gen Z's
(26:24):
feeling burned out.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I want you to do a little exercise. I want
you to think about your office or your your job site.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Or wherever you go. I don't know what you do
for a living. I mean, how can I possibly know
what one of you do for a living? I have
no idea, but I know that everyone listening comes from
a variety of backgrounds. So I want you to think
about where you work, and I want you to think
about who in your office or your job site, or
your place, whatever it is, who is expendable. If the
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boss came to you and said I gotta fire three people,
who do you recommend? Chances are at least two of
those three people that you pick have something in common,
and that commonality could say more about your unconscious bias
than it actually does about their ability. I'll tell you
who stays and who goes. That's next. I'm Chris Maryland.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Earlier tonight, Tim Conway Junior asked her own Mark Roner
if he wanted to hang out at Morongo, and Mark
was like eh, And I was like.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Pick me, pick me. You're not going to let that go,
are you?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm not okay, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Because, uh, Tim's the guy that he walks in and
I get all nerve him, Like Tim's here, I still
get starstruck.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Is that weird? I'm by radio people.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I don't get starstruck by like most celebrities, what I
do with radio people. Okay, well we all have our quirks. Yeah,
I'm sure I've got my own plenty of them. You
have lots of quirks. Oh yeah, I wouldn't waste anybody's
time disputing that. In fact, first time that I was
at the station, I filled in. I think I was
(27:57):
in Forgarian Shannon and not even been before their time.
But uh, I was prepping with Oscar Actually, who's now
our our apd our assistant program director. He was producing
at the time, and and I remember Bill Handle was
on a break and he came back. I was just
(28:19):
wandering around, which is what we do when we're you
know when when you're on a commercial break, you go
stretch your legs, right. So he comes wandering back and
he starts starts talking to me and just bsing a
little bit. And in my mind, I'm going, Bill Handle's
talking to me, don't screw this up. Bill Handle's talking.
I was like a high school kid who was talking
to his crush, just like, don't say anything stupid, don't
don't don't say anything stupid.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I think the first time Bill handle spoke to me.
He said something along the lines of you'll be gone
in a week. So on Brand, I guess it was.
I didn't know at the time, so on Brand, I.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Guess that's actually an issue right now for a lot
of gen zs.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was just talking about how they're feeling burnout, and
really they're being They're the generation that is now getting
thrust into the real world and they'll find their way,
just like every generation before them has found their way
and we get by. They've had some unique challenges with
the pandemic, with you know, a lot of school from
home that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Some social skills maybe didn't get learned or social mistakes
couldn't be made and then learned from because of the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So look, they're learning, They'll be fine. I have no problem.
But it is a learning process and you do have
to hold people accountable and that's how.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They learn, which is why there are a number of
gen Zers learning the hard way that they're gonna have
to bring a little bit better attitude to work. Sixty
percent of employers now say that they have fired gen
Z hires just months after onboarding.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
In other words, you hired them, they get here and
then you can them. This is from random Internega.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
So it turns out gen zs are getting fired from
their very first jobs within thirty days very quickly. Is
because they don't have technical skill, or maybe it's something
else that they're missing. Well, what it comes down to
is that they don't know how to conduct themselves professionally
in the workplace. Here's the first tip when you go
into any job, which you should try to do, is
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you try to make yourself super useful. You want to
be the person that makes everybody's lives around them easier.
The problem to the gen Zers have is that they
feel entitled. It's not going to help you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, And the thing is that we want to say,
gen Z, this is your fault, and I don't know
that it's gen Z's fault. I think that we have
to put some of the blame on prior generations. I
think that gen Z has been coddled more than previous generations.
I think that our parents, oftentimes, and I'm speaking for
(30:56):
the old parts, our parents were more of a shove
the burn out of the nest, see if they can
fly kind it was sink or swim right, and the
boss didn't really take mercy on you, and we got
screened at am Am. I Mark, you must have been
yelled at. You've said a lot of dumb things in
your life. You must have had somebody that really came
down hard on you at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I have kind of a rare rabbit complex and I
would not advise anyone to yell at me.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, so somebody probably learned the hard way not to
yell at to Mark Ronnert. But I mean, here's the deal.
When we talk about this stuff, a portion of it
rings true, but a portion also makes me think hasn't
every generation said this about the next one?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, but I think Gen Z.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Is a little bit different because as previous generations, and
let's be honest, we haven't had we haven't had the
draft since the seventies.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So min Gen gen xers we didn't deal with.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
We didn't deal with the hardships of my god, you're
here today, shipped out tomorrow and may never come back.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
We didn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And I and uh, I mean best case scenario, you go, well,
you know people that had did for a rack or
in the nineties or Afghanistan or something of that sort.
I mean we didn't have a generational boot camp basically
right where you had, you had an entire generation of
people that were drafted, and it's like boots on the ground, right,
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you hit the ground running.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Now, you and I are both gen X, and we're
from the generation where if you saw somebody with a
tattoo and you asked them about it, you ran a
pretty decent risk of getting your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, yes, and it was sink or swim. We learned
a lot of things the hard way, but we didn't
want our kids. We wanted to We wanted to lead
with love for our kids, and we didn't want for
our kids to experience like the tough love that maybe
our parents gave us. It's why a lot of us
and Gen X have complicated relationships with our fathers.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
That's the pendulum. It swings too far one way, then
too far another absolute mark.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You are again, smartest man on the show. There's two
of us here, the smartest all the three of them. Sorry,
that's just how smart you are. You've somehow taken four
people and gotten the job done with three.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well done. I'm in the top quartile of four of
us here. Well done.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
But instead of saying, well, gen Z, they just don't
know the gen Z didn't do the gen Z didn't
do that. I think we have to take a look
and go, how do we as parents do things because now,
and we also we took power away from a lot
of teachers. We had a lot of abuse that would
happen in schools, teachers that decided they were gonna they
were gonna start paddling kids whether they deserved it or not.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
And so we're gonna stop that. Did you get abused?
I got whacked one time fourth grade? Just once. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
The teacher I think only paddled three kids that year
and I was in the top quintile.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Well that's that's impressive. Wow, only only once is impressive,
is what I'm saying. If you only got one, yeah
it was public school, you made out, Well, yeah, I
did this public school.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I just I just think that we've raised gen
Zers differently, and I think we're seeing that. And I
think that gen Z as they become parents, they're going
to say, I got to make sure my kid is
tough and doesn't have the kind of adjustment issues getting
into the real world that I've had in the pendulum.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
We'll go back the other way.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But I also think that we largely lack the ability
to see things globally like that we lack that understanding
big changes, massive changes to one of your streaming service,
I mean massive, so big there is no way it
doesn't change your life forever. And I am not, in
any way, shape or form exaggerating probably all of it. Next,
(34:34):
Chris Merril, I AM six forty. We're live everywhere in
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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk on
demand anytime, the iHeart Radio app The team Tonight, Tony
keeping the trains on the tracks, Ricky, Hello, pull an
audio for us all night to grabbing some last minute stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I appreciate you doing that. Man, A nice job on that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I always love it when I just love it when
Ricky reaches out and he goes, hey, what do you need?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What can I do? How do I make this better? Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
God, you know how much I love working with people.
I just want to make everything a little bit better.
You know, I got to work, and I want to work.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I love it. I love it. I love it because
I work.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've worked with people in the past, not here, but
I've worked with other people that are like, are we done?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
If you just say, if you got time, how do
we make it better? You know, that's the way I
look at it. So I appreciate you. I appreciate you
got that attitude. You're a hustler.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I dig that every damn hustle in That's right.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then Mark Ronner, the coolest guy on the show,
who gets invited.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
To go hang out. Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He is so cool, he says, Nah, Tim, Nah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I think it's more a matter of I've become a
shut in with no social skills.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's not how it plays not in my book.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, I'll just accept that as a massive compliment from you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So uh to be perfectly frank, I have I have
a little flight coming up here at the end of
the month, and normally pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I just I fly into Chicago and then I go up.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
My My wife is at our place in northern Michigan,
and I'm really looking forward to somewhere has been the
last week of the month with her and do some
stuff around the house and that sort of thing. So
I'm a little nervous though that the that the shutdown
is going to affect air travel, I know already has
(01:59):
or been you know, air traffic controllers that have called
out there. Obviously, Burbank was the first airport that that
basically shut down for an evening because they didn't have
air traffic controllers. And and I saw Austin did it
this week. That worries me. And then of course he
got TSA and they're you know, they're not getting paid,
and so how much do they want to go to work?
(02:20):
They're probably thinking, well, I could just call in sick
and then drive uber all day long. At least I
get a paycheck so I can try to pay some
of my bills. And if I call in sick, I
can use my sick time and I'm gonna get my.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Back pay eventually. Right. So, I'm a little nervous about
those lines getting longer and longer.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And then I'm a little nervous that while I'm standing
in line, I'm gonna start becoming very angry because one
thing I do not want while I'm standing in line
is in doctrination. I do not want to be preached
to while I'm standing in line of the airport on
government sponsored in doctrination tapes, which is exactly what Christyl
(03:00):
is doing. She wants to make sure you're seeing her
message about the shutdown. Let me tell you something, Christy
Nome means no from NBCLA.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
The effort to blame Democrats for the shutdown apparent in
a new video from Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, which
DHS has asked airports to show on monitors at TSA checkpoints.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government, and
because of this, many of our operations are impacted.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Scores of airports have refused to run the video, among
them Lax and Burbank, Orange County is considering the request.
All report they have a policy against running videos with
a political.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Message as well.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They should there should not be in doctrination at the airport,
for Pete's sake. Conservatives threw such a hissy fit because
many airports had CNN on at the gates, and they went, oh,
everywhere I go, there's CNN, and I don't want to
watch the Clinton News Network. And so airport stopped carrying
CNN on the monitor on the TVs at the gates.
(04:06):
And now many places you don't have any TV. So
I hope you're happy you get nothing. I don't like
the idea of again, my tax dollar is going toward
a politician who's going to use their power to try
to force their message down my throat. Now, let me
be clear, and a lot of you are going to
(04:26):
you're not gonna like what I have to say about this,
but this is where I stand. The polling numbers show
that the majority of Americans blame both sides of Congress,
and they blame the president and the Republican Party more
than they blame the Democrats. I, however, I blame the
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Democrats on this. The government shutdown is because the Democrats
are not signing onto a bill that has enough votes
to pass, and the Republicans have control of the House
and the Senate. They've put continuing resolutions forward. Democrats are
the ones who are stopping it from advancing. Now, they
may be on principled ground, but if we're talking about
who is stopping the bill from being.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Passed, it's the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Now, the Democrats have proposed their own that doesn't go
anywhere either, But the Republicans have control of the House
and the Senate.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They have control of the purse strings.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right now, the Democrats are using their position to try
to negotiate to not have Medicare cut off. Right, we'll
talk more about this year in just a few moments.
The Republicans don't have this bill and they go, we
just have to pass this. That said, I don't even
care if what Christy Gnoam is saying, I have a
(05:38):
general agreement with that. I think the Democrats are responsible
for this government shutdown. I blame the majority of the Democrats.
Excuse me, I put the majority of the blame on
the Democrats. I also think it takes two to tango,
so Republicans are not without culpability, but as far as
not signing on, it's the Democrats just from a procedural standpoint.
(06:00):
But Christy Nome using her position to try to force
this down my throat while I'm standing in line and
having my toes tickled with my shoes off is not okay.
And keep this in mind, because this is really what
it's about. It's not even about getting their message out
to you and me as we're standing in line at
the TSA.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's not even about you and me.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The people most directly affected by the shutdown at the
airport are the TSA agents, and they're the ones that
have to sit and hear that message on a NonStop loop.
It is classic brainwashing technique. Captive audience. Keep repeating the message,
the reason you're suffering is because of them. The reason
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you're suffering is because of them. The reason you're suffering
is because of them, over and over and over and
over again. For eight hours at a job you're not
even getting paid for.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This is about making sure that TSA agents snap in line,
that they don't call out sick, that they don't take
their misery out on the Republican politicians.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Sure you and I hearing that message where we otherwise
might not hear the propaganda. That's a nice little added benefit,
But it's all about making sure those people hear the
message blaming the Democrats. And in the message there are
TSA workers that are being featured and then shown working unpaid.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Now, look, I'm a little bit concerned because I don't
want to miss my flight.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I want to get home. I want to go spend
a week with my wife.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
We call it sexy time, and I'm going to miss
out on that if we have too many TSA agents
calling in sick and if we're at again, my flight's
coming up here in ten more days.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
How many days are we.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Into this shutdown mark we're at We're in the third
week now, right, yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Fourteen ishka, I'll have to check. And by the way,
can I add to oh, it's like the first of
the month, so we're at fifteen days? It was the
first of the month. There's one minor detail you may
want to know.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I knew you were going to take Umbridge with my
position ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's not Umbridge. It's just we strive for clarity. The
messages from NOME are against the law. Do yourself favor
and look up something called the Hatch Act.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, yes, anew where you were going.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, it's federal law that prohibits people in government from
engaging in political activity on the clock.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I didn't say anything contradictory to what you just added.
That's fine, you can add that. That's great. But since
when has the Hatch Act stopped anybody from doing anything?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's not really the rationale I would whip out.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, but when does the Hatch Act get used? When
has the Hatch Act been used? It doesn't, It doesn't
get used.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, we haven't seen a ton of Hatch Act prosecutions
in recent history. No, but it's been on the book
since the late thirties, and it's the law of the land,
whether you like it or observe it or not. But
if a law is not enforced, is it really a law. Well,
that's what we have to contend with right now, Right
and you've.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Got an administration that says stop me. You say it's
the law. We say, we don't care, stop me, go
ahead and enforce it. Who's going to enforce the Hatch Act.
Who's going to arrest dhs or fine give a civil
find to the federal government for violating their own law.
The Republican House, the Republican Senate, the Republican administration. No
(09:29):
one is going to enforce it. So it doesn't even matter.
That's the practicality of it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I agree with you philosophically, but we're not even in
a philosophical or what's right world.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We're in what can I get away with? World?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But that's what's happening. That's exactly what's happening. And it
frustrates me. It shouldn't be happening.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
We should hold ourselves to that standard, but we keep
lowering the bar more and more and more and more.
So you got the lights are off, the doors are locked,
and the people in charge are arguing over something nobody
really knows what.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But hey, at least the drama is free. We got
that we can watch.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
You want to watch something on TV, just flip on
Congress arguing how you're about to be affected is next.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I'm Chris Merril.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
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Speaker 2 (10:18):
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Speaker 3 (10:34):
So bookmark that right now so you catch everything, you know.
I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The the video that Christy Nolan wants played at the airport.
And I always get pushed back when I when I
take a stance on something political, which is part of
the reason I don't really talk about political stuff very
much because I find you and I have a lot
more in common than we do. It separates us, but
when it comes to politics, we just we just completely
disregard all of our common ground and we just get
(10:59):
anger at the other person. So I don't really want
to I don't want I don't want you to be
pissed at me, right, So I don't talk about it
a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But it is a big deal. It is a big topic.
So I want you to think about this.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I have a problem with Christy Noan playing with her
tape blaming the Democrats playing at the airports, that's what
they want to do. Lax says no, Hollywood Birdbanks says no.
But some airports are playing the video. I have a
problem with that, even though I agree.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That that it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Is the Democratic Party that is standing in the way
of getting a budget passed. Right now, I do say
it takes two to tango, but I put I put
a heavier blame on the Democrats. So I actually agree
with some of what she's saying. I don't believe that
it belongs at the airport, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Don't think you do. Even if you agree with her.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Even if right now you say, oh no it does, no, No,
it's a good thing, I don't think you do.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So let's try a little exercise.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Suppose that Governor Batman Gavin Newsom, the real life Bruce Wayne,
were to do the same thing. Suppose that Governor Batman
were to say at LAX San Diego, San Francisco, all
the big airports came on and said, we're glad you're
(12:17):
flying out of the beautiful state of California. Or welcome
to the beautiful state of California, depending on you know
where it is. We're sorry that you're experiencing delays based
on TSA staffing. This is because of the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You would go, How dare he?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Gavin Newsom shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars to cut any
sort of an indoctrination video that I have to play.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I can't avoid it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
If I want to travel through this major airport, I
have to see his dumb mug telling me that I
should think like him politically, you'd go, California.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Has lost its marbles.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And so even if you are hardcore MAGA and you
agree completely, I don't don't think you actually want that
video plane. And if you think that when the Democrats
take back control that they are somehow going to be
magnanimous and say, wow, that behavior is just unbecoming of
an American, you are dead wrong. They're taking notes right now.
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And when you've got President AOC, because we are pushing
people to the fringes. When President AOC comes around, you
watch what she does. You watch how she decorates the
White House. She's gonna take all that gold crap out
of there. You watch which tree she teares down on
the White House, And all of a sudden, you're gonna,
how dare she? You watch what video she wants running
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at the airports.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And you're, oh, good she that's a violation of the
Hatch Act. And then here say, why isn't anyone enforcing
the Hatch Act. Just remember what's good for the goose,
it's good for the gander. Shut down, continue on for
how long? Mike Johnson says, forever. Both sides are dug
in their heels the longest time. About fifteen years ago,
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the Republicans complained. They said, they said, the.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Democrats don't compromise. They're very well organized, they've got their
messaging down, and we are compromising too often, and because
of that, we always lose. And so the Republicans said,
that's it. We are going to elect strong leaders who
don't compromise, that stand up, that fight. Compromise became a
dirty word on the right. Well you're seeing what's happening
(14:36):
on the left again. Because it's not like you've got
one party. This can be magnanimous and then let the
other one roll all over them. So now the Republicans
say compromise is a dirty word. The Democrats are now
saying compromise is a dirty word, and since neither side
is willing to compromise, it's just a lot of dirty words.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Now entering week free and the federal shutdown vice is
tightening in it's gript. The nation's airports flight delays are
expected to increase, with air traffic controllers now working without pay.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How long can they work without pay? How long can
you go without getting a paycheck? When a quarter of
this country is paycheck to paycheck?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, it's more than a quarter.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Half the country is paycheck to paycheck at least sixty
percent by the last information I read.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So how long? How long can you go? How long
could you go?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I got my wife now if we both want with
that changes everything? Yeah, well it does because one thing. Look,
we went into debt a few years back.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
We were in a lot of debt, and we buckled
down and I, you know, I got I got blown
out from you know, a couple of gigs because radio.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, my wife makes good money. I make okay money.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And so we decided that we wanted to try to
We're not exactly there right now, but we want to
try to live a lifestyle that either one of our
paychecks could support.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So if I can draw a lesson from what you're saying,
it's that air traffic controllers should all get sugar mamas.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that's everybody's lesson. Okay, huh, how else should you
take it? Exactly what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, so that's anyway,
that's what because we because we learned our lesson the
hard way, okay. Uh, And we were you know, I
was racking up credit cards because I was using that
as my emergency fund because I didn't have one.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So now we've got an emergency fund.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now we try to live so that if either one
of us lost our gig, we would be we would
be able to get by, right, still have to cut back,
but we get we can get by.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So that's where we are right now. But how many
people do that?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And it's only after I that we've made mistakes and
I lost radio gigs that all of a sudden we
wenth oh, we're in dire straits.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So how long can tsa not not to get paid
and keep working? Now, air traffic controllers, they make pretty
good money. They're gonna keep calling in sick, and I
don't know how much how much of a nest egg
they have. I don't know what they have for an
emergency fund.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And maybe after the last shutdowns they said, Okay, we
need to make sure we've got a solid six months
emergency fund, and maybe they do. I hope a lot
of people do. I don't know that the TSA, you know,
the entry level TSA jobs.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Are doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So I got a feeling that they are working at
the airport for free during the day because they want
to maintain the job, because they want all that backpay.
When it finally hits, it's gonna be a massive check.
You're gonna see a little you're gonna see a little
bump and consumer spending around the holidays when everybody gets
all their checks all at once. But in the meantime,
I'm guessing they get out of work and then they
go turn on their uber sign or their their lift
light on their car, or they're door dashing or.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Something, or they're only fans. Yeah, work in the poll. Yep.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Hey, you're not allowed to wear your TSA uniform when
you're doing porn, right, But I don't know what the
etiquette is on that. I'm sure you could wear it.
A similar looking costume. I just gotta x out the
s so it's just tna oh look at you. Come on, Tony,
get on that rim shut that doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
That's brilliant. He was the one that told me the
idea that's a really good?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Is that new?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Did you come up with that just for me tonight?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Don't steal it. I'm gonna oh okay, I kind of
love that. It's kind of brilliant. Again, why you're the
smartest man on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It was a throwaway. You can have it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm taking it. I'm taking it all right. I gotta
get away from politics. I'm side of that crap.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It is a burnout jackpot.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're gonna find out who's burning out at work, especially
the paycheck to paycheck crowd, which is most of us.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's next, Chris Merrill.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
My name is Chris Merrill. You'll catch me on Sunday
afternoons and we lean heavy into the app. We love
the talkbacks on the apps too. We always try to
have some sort of a theme on Sunday afternoon. So
you are invited to join us after the Chargers game
this weekend. Would love to have you on there. Gary
and Shannon. By the way, speaking of chargers, Shannon along
with Gary, yeah, two of them. They're gonna be at
BJ's and Hunting and Beach tomorrow for their show nine
(18:53):
am to one for a live News and Bruise broadcast.
The best part about their show is getting drunk before noon. No,
don't kid, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Pj's brew House in Hunting the Beach sixty one sixty
sixty Beach Boulevard, gonna be food, fun and prizes which
we've been assured are not crappy.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
There's a new AFLAC Workforces report out. It talks about
burnout among the gen zs and I know what you're thinking,
gen Z, how can you be burnout? You haven't been
at it long enough to have burnout. You don't even
know what it's like. How dare you well listen? Burnout
as relative, gen Z is largely inexperienced in the workplace,
(19:37):
and so they're kind of being thrust into it and
it can be overwhelming from a value entertainment value valuetainment
their hot take on the gen Z burnout.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Gen Z, there's a very high likely of this video
is gonna piss you off.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm so upset trigger you.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
You may have your microaggression type of a moment. But
for those of you that will hire.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Gen Z, yeah, this is one of those people who's
just mocking the upcoming generation, which is easy to do.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I just find it to be a little bit of
low hanging fruit.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
You're gonna say, I agree with some of the stuff,
but this is purely for some of you that are
between twelve to twenty seven years old, born between ninety
seven and twenty twelve. Now you want to find a
way to have a fighting chance in the future, watch
this video and its entirety. Watch this new statistic.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Watch my video. Yeah, that's what they're doing already. Sticks.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Do you know what percent of gen Z workers claim
they experience burnout at work?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I get scheduled for twenty five hours a week. I'm
literally about to clit.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Not twenty percent, not forty percent, not eighty percent, not
ninety percent. Ninety eight percent of you experience burn.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Up every single day.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Go and work somewhere and do that five times a week.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
How oh, okay, all right, his numbers are off, but
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You're in your early twenties. Watch this twenty three percent
face unmanageable stress and forty eight percent fuel drained. According
to a Signal survey, gen Z is the most stressed
generation of all kind.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
All right, so our reporter here, if you want to
call it that, it's just some rando on the internets.
It feels like he's punching down. And I say that
because we are. We are discounting what gen Z is
going through, and we're like, how dare they as if
we don't remember our first foray into the quote unquote
(21:26):
real world. Look, we all went through that. It comes
with age. It's why we have coming of age stories.
Everyone is finding their way. The real world hits you hard.
It's been a it's been a theme for years. The
real world hits you hard. And the older generations always
(21:49):
complain that the younger generations don't want to work, which
of course is a gross generalization. I work with a
number of gen Zers who are really good. They are
immensely good at their jobs. They're very hard workers, not
all of them, and you can find some dopes. So
it's person to person. But the same story about the
(22:11):
youngest working generation being burned out could have been written
for every generation. It is no coincidence that the generation
with the second highest burnout rate is the Millennials. The
next youngest gen Z seventy four percent say that they
are burned out. Sixty six percent of millennials say that
(22:31):
they're burned out. Well, how could you be that way?
How could it be? Look, you're in school, you go
to school, You go to school every day, five days
a week. Then you get to June and you're dismissed,
and all of a sudden, first grade's over. Then you're
on to second grade, and you know what's gonna happen.
(22:52):
You're gonna go to school five days a week. You
know that you're gonna have your Thanksgiving break, you know
you're gonna have your winter break, you're gonna have your
Spring break, and then you're gonna you're gonna get to
to June andville.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Boom, you're out. And then it starts all over. You're
out of second grade, and it starts all over again.
And then you get into high school and you already
know you're supposed to you're supposed to continue on trade school, college,
community college.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Whatever it is. You know what that path is.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And then you go to college and you're in college
and you go, I'm majoring in this, and you go,
I have to have this class in this class, and
this classes and all laid out, and you know you're.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Gonna take your one hundred courses and your two hundred
course and you're three hundred courses and your four underre courses,
and you know what your your workload is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And everything is mapped out, and then you graduate, and
then nothing is mapped out. There is no light at
the end of the tunnel. When you start first grade,
you know that by the end of June, you are
done with first grade. When you start seventh grade, you
know that by the end of June, you're done with
seventh grade. You know that when you start your freshman
(23:52):
year in four years, you're done with high school.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You've got a diploma.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
When you start college, four years feels like a long time.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
But when you're done, you've accomplished it, You've hit your goal,
and then you're done with it, and no one is
telling you what your next goal is.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No one is setting that path forward. There is no
guidance counselor, and.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then you're walking into an entry level position and you're
doing grunt work even if you've got the degree in
the field that you want to be in, chances are
you're not starting out as the CEO. Chances are you're
not getting your country club benefit package. You're busting your tail.
So yeah, that's stressful, that's daunting, and it can lead
(24:37):
to burnout. And let's also keep in mind too that
this is a generation that was born in the recession
or right before the recess. Man some were born in
the recession, some were born right before it. So in
their formative years, we're going through a very difficult period.
Then they get into high school or college, and then
we get here with the pandemic, and then you're work
(24:57):
from home and everything is disrupted and we don't.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Even know that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
For Pete's Saint, they're doing school on zoom and now
they hit the workforce and.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
They're supposed to go in they're supposed to know people,
they're supposed to be social, but they didn't have the
social skills talked to them along the way. They didn't
have the chance to make those mistakes in high school,
to say stupid things to the girl, to.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Embarrass themselves. You know at the I don't know do
people go to drive ins or whatever, drive throughs or
whatever anymore. You know, they didn't have those chances to
make mistakes and learn because they were isolated. And now
they're in the workforce, and we expect them to be
completely socially adapted, to have the work ethic of a
World War two soldier returning from home. They don't, and
(25:43):
they won't, and neither did the millennials, and neither did
my gen xers. And we were all called lazy. We
were all told that we didn't know how to do anything,
and we were all told that the future of America
is in dire straits because this generation sucks.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Well, now the future of America's in the hands of
the baby boomers. Are you happy with the way things
are going?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Survey says more people are unhappy with the direction of
this country than gen zs are feeling burned out, So
maybe just chill, maybe stop punching down, And in fact
that punching down is permeating, not just with gen Z's
(26:24):
feeling burned out.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I want you to do a little exercise. I want
you to think about your office or your your job site.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Or wherever you go. I don't know what you do
for a living. I mean, how can I possibly know
what one of you do for a living? I have
no idea, but I know that everyone listening comes from
a variety of backgrounds. So I want you to think
about where you work, and I want you to think
about who in your office or your job site, or
your place, whatever it is, who is expendable. If the
(26:53):
boss came to you and said I gotta fire three people,
who do you recommend? Chances are at least two of
those three people that you pick have something in common,
and that commonality could say more about your unconscious bias
than it actually does about their ability. I'll tell you
who stays and who goes. That's next. I'm Chris Maryland.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Earlier tonight, Tim Conway Junior asked her own Mark Roner
if he wanted to hang out at Morongo, and Mark
was like eh, And I was like.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Pick me, pick me. You're not going to let that go,
are you?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm not okay, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Because, uh, Tim's the guy that he walks in and
I get all nerve him, Like Tim's here, I still
get starstruck.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Is that weird? I'm by radio people.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I don't get starstruck by like most celebrities, what I
do with radio people. Okay, well we all have our quirks. Yeah,
I'm sure I've got my own plenty of them. You
have lots of quirks. Oh yeah, I wouldn't waste anybody's
time disputing that. In fact, first time that I was
at the station, I filled in. I think I was
(27:57):
in Forgarian Shannon and not even been before their time.
But uh, I was prepping with Oscar Actually, who's now
our our apd our assistant program director. He was producing
at the time, and and I remember Bill Handle was
on a break and he came back. I was just
(28:19):
wandering around, which is what we do when we're you
know when when you're on a commercial break, you go
stretch your legs, right. So he comes wandering back and
he starts starts talking to me and just bsing a
little bit. And in my mind, I'm going, Bill Handle's
talking to me, don't screw this up. Bill Handle's talking.
I was like a high school kid who was talking
to his crush, just like, don't say anything stupid, don't
don't don't say anything stupid.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
I think the first time Bill handle spoke to me.
He said something along the lines of you'll be gone
in a week. So on Brand, I guess it was.
I didn't know at the time, so on Brand, I.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Guess that's actually an issue right now for a lot
of gen zs.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I was just talking about how they're feeling burnout, and
really they're being They're the generation that is now getting
thrust into the real world and they'll find their way,
just like every generation before them has found their way
and we get by. They've had some unique challenges with
the pandemic, with you know, a lot of school from
home that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Some social skills maybe didn't get learned or social mistakes
couldn't be made and then learned from because of the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So look, they're learning, They'll be fine. I have no problem.
But it is a learning process and you do have
to hold people accountable and that's how.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They learn, which is why there are a number of
gen Zers learning the hard way that they're gonna have
to bring a little bit better attitude to work. Sixty
percent of employers now say that they have fired gen
Z hires just months after onboarding.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
In other words, you hired them, they get here and
then you can them. This is from random Internega.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
So it turns out gen zs are getting fired from
their very first jobs within thirty days very quickly. Is
because they don't have technical skill, or maybe it's something
else that they're missing. Well, what it comes down to
is that they don't know how to conduct themselves professionally
in the workplace. Here's the first tip when you go
into any job, which you should try to do, is
(30:22):
you try to make yourself super useful. You want to
be the person that makes everybody's lives around them easier.
The problem to the gen Zers have is that they
feel entitled. It's not going to help you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, And the thing is that we want to say,
gen Z, this is your fault, and I don't know
that it's gen Z's fault. I think that we have
to put some of the blame on prior generations. I
think that gen Z has been coddled more than previous generations.
I think that our parents, oftentimes, and I'm speaking for
(30:56):
the old parts, our parents were more of a shove
the burn out of the nest, see if they can
fly kind it was sink or swim right, and the
boss didn't really take mercy on you, and we got
screened at am Am. I Mark, you must have been
yelled at. You've said a lot of dumb things in
your life. You must have had somebody that really came
down hard on you at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I have kind of a rare rabbit complex and I
would not advise anyone to yell at me.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, so somebody probably learned the hard way not to
yell at to Mark Ronnert. But I mean, here's the deal.
When we talk about this stuff, a portion of it
rings true, but a portion also makes me think hasn't
every generation said this about the next one?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, but I think Gen Z.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Is a little bit different because as previous generations, and
let's be honest, we haven't had we haven't had the
draft since the seventies.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So min Gen gen xers we didn't deal with.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
We didn't deal with the hardships of my god, you're
here today, shipped out tomorrow and may never come back.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
We didn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And I and uh, I mean best case scenario, you go, well,
you know people that had did for a rack or
in the nineties or Afghanistan or something of that sort.
I mean we didn't have a generational boot camp basically
right where you had, you had an entire generation of
people that were drafted, and it's like boots on the ground, right,
(32:17):
you hit the ground running.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Now, you and I are both gen X, and we're
from the generation where if you saw somebody with a
tattoo and you asked them about it, you ran a
pretty decent risk of getting your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, yes, and it was sink or swim. We learned
a lot of things the hard way, but we didn't
want our kids. We wanted to We wanted to lead
with love for our kids, and we didn't want for
our kids to experience like the tough love that maybe
our parents gave us. It's why a lot of us
and Gen X have complicated relationships with our fathers.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
That's the pendulum. It swings too far one way, then
too far another absolute mark.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You are again, smartest man on the show. There's two
of us here, the smartest all the three of them. Sorry,
that's just how smart you are. You've somehow taken four
people and gotten the job done with three.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well done. I'm in the top quartile of four of
us here. Well done.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
But instead of saying, well, gen Z, they just don't
know the gen Z didn't do the gen Z didn't
do that. I think we have to take a look
and go, how do we as parents do things because now,
and we also we took power away from a lot
of teachers. We had a lot of abuse that would
happen in schools, teachers that decided they were gonna they
were gonna start paddling kids whether they deserved it or not.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
And so we're gonna stop that. Did you get abused?
I got whacked one time fourth grade? Just once. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
The teacher I think only paddled three kids that year
and I was in the top quintile.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Well that's that's impressive. Wow, only only once is impressive,
is what I'm saying. If you only got one, yeah
it was public school, you made out, Well, yeah, I
did this public school.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I just I just think that we've raised gen
Zers differently, and I think we're seeing that. And I
think that gen Z as they become parents, they're going
to say, I got to make sure my kid is
tough and doesn't have the kind of adjustment issues getting
into the real world that I've had in the pendulum.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
We'll go back the other way.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
But I also think that we largely lack the ability
to see things globally like that we lack that understanding
big changes, massive changes to one of your streaming service,
I mean massive, so big there is no way it
doesn't change your life forever. And I am not, in
any way, shape or form exaggerating probably all of it. Next,
(34:34):
Chris Merril, I AM six forty. We're live everywhere in
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