March 29, 2025 • 18 mins
Frank William Miller Jr is the creator of the "Ban Dolan" T-shirt. He is now public enemy #1 according to owner of Madison Square Garden and all it's affiliates. James Dolan has banned Frank William Miller Jr. over the t-shirt. He created it 4 years ago but face recognition makes it so he is banned for life. Take a liste.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
K if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. It's Saturdays with Tiffany here until seven pm,
and then Michael Monks comes aboard, so make sure you
stay tuned for that. This next conversation we're going to
have is going to surprise you in many different ways.
It should, it should concern you, it should shock you,
(00:22):
it may humor you. But the impetus or the objective
of this conversation is to inform you about things that
very well may happen to you if you're not careful.
And it's not that our next guest wasn't careful. No,
what he did was intentional, but the ramifications the consequences
of something that he created are bar none and they're unprecedented,
(00:46):
and we're going to talk about what that is in
a moment. Allow me to introduce you to Frank William
Miller Junior. Frank has enjoyed quite a varied career. He's
navigated the worlds of culture, music, social good. He's worked
with everyone from a tribe called quest if You're a
Hip Hop Fan, to Nike to Rockstar Games. And Frank
(01:11):
has spent over fifteen years in both the corporate and
entertainment sectors. He handled graphics at a leading radio station
in New York. He also has worked on major record
breaking video games such as Red Dead, Redemption and Max
Payne three. He even became the marketing designer for Complex,
which is a very popular magazine founded by fashion designer
(01:36):
and it focuses on style, sneakers, food, music, sports, and
pop culture. Frank has been all over the map in
the digital design world, even working at Matter Unlimited, where
he applied his skills and experiences to support clients such
as Seth and Lauren Rogan's Hilarity for Charity and data
(01:58):
dot Org. In addition to everything that Frank has done,
and his resume is a laundry list of accomplishments, I'd
also want to note that he served as the consulting
art director for Questlove's released documentary Summer of Soul, which
won an Academy Award. In addition to all of these
(02:20):
things that Frank has done, I think Frank is most
celebrated for being reachable. He is an everyman. He is
friend to many and supporter of all, and Frank, unfortunately
is finding himself embroiled in his own sort of scandal.
His own sort of controversy, and it's not because he
(02:43):
did anything negative. In fact, it's the opposite. He called
for accountability. And what Frank did is Frank created a
T shirt in twenty twenty one, and that T shirt
calls to ban James Dolan. James Dolan is the owner
of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden. James Dolan did
(03:07):
not like that T shirt. That T shirt was sold,
was supported, and one of Frank's supporters actually wore the
T shirt to a game years ago, and I'll let
Frank tell the details of that story in a bit,
and received their own consequence, a ban from Madison Square
Garden well four years after that T shirt was made
(03:28):
in protest of James Dolan banning former Knicks player Charles
Oakley in twenty seventeen. That's where the T shirt comes from.
Ban Dolan. James Dolan has called for the banning of Frank.
William Miller Junior, and Frank found out in a very
unceremonious way and a way to me that's upsetting given
(03:50):
that he was with his family when he found out.
But in addition to everything that we're going to talk
about again, I just want to preface that Frank is extremely,
extremely talented, and I just I hate Frank that now
this is what comes up when you google your name.
But I'm glad that attention is being paid to you
(04:11):
so that you can not only rake in more revenue
for these shirts, but spread more of your message. I
think your biggest crime, first and foremost, though, is being
a Knicks fan. But we'll get into that. Let's welcome
Frank William Miller to this show. Thanks Frank for.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Coming on, Thanks for having me. That is that's quite
the intro.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's you know, it's a laundry list, like I said,
And that's not even everything, right. It's kind of hard,
weird to hear about yourself and all these things.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right, a little bit, some of the things I even forgot.
But yeah, being a Knicks fan. Talk about long suffering,
and this is like another another pedal in that bag
of long suffering. Yeah, where can I start?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Tell us about the four years ago you had a concept,
right Knicks fan, longtime fan? You were? You were you
were watching the moves of the CEO of Madison Square Garden,
who also happens to own the next basketball team, and you,
as a fan, saw something happen in twenty seventeen and
decided to make a call to action using your merchandise store.
(05:17):
Start there and then tell us about how it got
a claim and popularity.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. So, you know, I was a big Knicks fan
in the nineties. I was living in Texas, which made
it especially tough because the Knicks lost to the Houston
Rockets in ninety four and the San Antonio Spurs in
nineteen ninety nine. Around then is why I gave up
on being a pro sports fan, you know. Anyway, But
Charles Oakley is a legendary Knicks player, and he got
(05:44):
kicked out of the garden and arrested in twenty seventeen,
And as you can imagine, this week, people have been
sending me articles about the incident. Again, it's refreshing my memory.
I didn't realize that him and his wife separated over
you know that as part of the fallout of him
being kicked out, did they? Wow? I didn't. Yeah. Yeah,
So I made a meme in the style of the
(06:04):
old New York Knicks logo that said Dan Dolan because
the Knicks are an institution for New York City, bigger
than whoever owns it. At the moment whatever, a billionaire
owns it at the moment, and I just thought it
was something funny to share in a couple of group chats,
as like a graphic exercise as a designer. Somebody said,
you know what, that would be funny on a shirt.
(06:25):
So what did I do? I put it on a shirt,
threw it up and kind of forgot about it. A
couple of my friends bought it, you know, to wear
and be funny. But that was it. Then in twenty
twenty one, a friend of mine that I used to
work with, he wore the T shirt to a k
next game his girlfriend had gotten in birthday tickets. They
were sitting very very close. Within five minutes of him
(06:47):
being in the arena and the game starting, he took
off his jacket because he's getting a little warm in there,
and he was approached by Medicine Square Garden security and
just scored it up the building and issued a band Wow,
you know, ay, there's thousands of people in the in
the arena, Like, how do you spot him that quickly
(07:07):
and remove him? So that was the initial thing. We
talked about it the week after he got thrown out.
Max Kellerman and Steven a. Smith did a couple of
segments on what kind of a man baby that Dawn
was being over this and getting into spats with individual
fans much less you know, previous players for the franchise.
(07:32):
So fast forward to this past Monday. I'm in New
York City visiting with my family. It's their forty seventh anniversary.
I've gotten them Cleo Sould tickets at Radio Music City
Radio City Music Hall, which is a Madison Square Garden
entertainment venue. Yep, and yeah, I found out that I
(07:53):
was also placed on a band. After scanning my ticket,
I tried to walk into you know, the security line.
We have to go to the middle detectives. Make sure
you don't have any thanks, sharp and funny. My old
roommate who came along with me, she had my phone
in her bag. She went through the middle detective first,
and then venue security sort of rushed our specific security line.
(08:16):
There was like four or five of them on the
fiftieth Street entrance of the building. They stopped their line specifically,
It's like, hold on, hold on, we may have a
potential P five. You know, it's real theatrical. He has
his hand on his earpiece and looking real official in
the black suit, and he said, hey, yeah, that's him
and points at me. So I'm like, whoa. They pulled
(08:38):
me off the line and we go through another door,
which ends up taking us to the sixth Avenue entrance
to Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm gon pause you right there, Frank. We're going to
pick up on the other side, and I want you
to continue what happened. How what you were served with,
which is vary to me rudimentary when you see it,
and Frank explains it, it was very thrown together for
the moment. But I'll let you tell the story, and
then we'll talk about some of the implications therein for security,
(09:09):
for facial recognition and other AI technology that may have
come into play when it comes to these privacy concerns,
and what Dolan was able to institute, as well as
some history about James Dolan that I dug up. This
is not, of course the first ban because of James
Dolan being sensitive to willing and willful criticism, but Frank
(09:34):
is currently dealing with a lifetime ban to Madison Square
Garden and all of its affiliate venues because James Dolan,
the owner of the Knicks and a CEO and also
a major board member on Madison Square Garden doesn't like
a T shirt that Frank designed four years ago just
(09:55):
to poke fun at James Dolan's I maybe call it
a quick trigger finger, but a band finger maybe. And
Frank is now dealing with a lifetime ban as a
consequence to James Dolan's sensitivities. So Frank, welcome back. You've
just told us how you found out that you were
(10:16):
unwelcome in this at this concert at you said Radio
City Music Hall, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, So I had purchased tickets for my parents.
Is a Christmas slash anniversary gift. My mom really likes
Leo Soul. I really liked Cleo sol who was the
first American show. So after they pulled me off the
security line, they walked me through this door and took
me out to the sixth Avenue entrance of Radio City
Music Hall. So at first I wasn't quite sure what
was going on. Just an hour before, I was talking
(10:45):
to a friend of mine who's, you know, a pretty
big entertainment figure in New York. He was asking me
specifically when my parents anniversary was, and I said it
was today. So I thought he had some pool with
the venue and maybe he was like upgrading our seat.
They was going to have this like, you know, right
up front, but no, they were going to put my
ass right out front, out the front door. So I
(11:06):
was I was flanked by about seven to eight venue
security personnel.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Your parents anniversary, my parents.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
At the literal anniversary.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, can we give a shout out to your parents?
First of all, forty seven years is a beautiful accomplishment.
And I've seen pictures of your folks. They just look
so happy.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, they were. They were happy until about about then. Yeah,
I was flanked by about six or seven security personnel.
You know, once I realized the sort of like position
they had around me, probably like two hundred and seventy
degree you know, like surrounding me. They had their body
cams on, I was like, oh, this is something else.
This is definitely not my seat's getting upgraded. My friend
(11:52):
who I was talking to earlier, he was walking in
the entrance through security of sixth Avenue right as I
was getting himed up. So I was like, dude, what's up.
And I'm like, no, I am not good. He's like like,
I don't know. So he tried to like talk to security.
They're like it's above me now, and like here, this
is like billionaire problems versus millionaire. Like a millionaire is
(12:13):
not going to help me in that situation. So he
goes through. He goes through and tries to calm my
parents down and talk to them and let them know
what's happening. And once they have a New York City
police officer there is a witness, they hand me a
piece of paper this is trespass notice or something and
details that because of my misbehavior at Medicine Square Gardener
(12:35):
one of its affiliate venues, I am banned ined definitely
from all of these properties and if I set foot
on them again, they can sack the laws on me.
So you know, I've at this point I think all
of us realize there's no chance to be seeing the
show tonight. So I asked her two things. I asked
for my phone back from my roommate who's on the
other side of in the lobby. After she went through security,
(12:56):
they were nice enough to go get me that, and
then I asked him, like, if I was to appeal
this is, They're like some web form. Do I need
to go to the office? You know, I have no
intention of appealing, but I don't want the stake, So
I just wanted to know, hoping they would tell me,
like what they were banning me for, and they told
me it was because of an incident in twenty twenty
(13:17):
one when I was at Madison Square Garden. So I'm like,
it's still not clicking yet that it's over the shirt,
but I'm like, I haven't been to Madison Square Garden
since two thousand and six, and the only reason I
went is because I had tickets from work when I
used to work at the radio station in New York.
I had tickets to that next game they're playing the Celtics.
They beat the Celtics foray, and then later that year
(13:40):
in two thousand and six, it was the last time
I'd ever been to Radio City Music Hall because Jay
Z had his tenth anniversary or reasonable Dell concert there.
He drove the White Lexus on stage and everything. But
that's the last time I've been in any of those
two venues. As you know, Madison Square Garden sits on
top of Penn Station in New York, so I've been
to the train station, but I've not been to the
guard So there's no incident in twenty twenty one. Those
(14:02):
are the COVID years, right. I'm out here in Seattle
where I live now, that's three thousand miles away. So
I had no day in twenty twenty one, much less
tonight in question, which I realized looking back was four
years in one day, probably to be getting kicked out
on Monday. So happy belated birthday to my friend that
got kicked out, right, And you know it again.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It the fact that it's four years later, and the
fact that James Dolan has a history of these bannings.
Obviously Charles Oakley in twenty seventeen, another fan a few
years ago who called for Dolan to sell the team.
He just yelled to Dolan, hey, sell the team because
the Knicks have a very poor record. Everyone knows it.
(14:46):
And so this fan yells to Dolan as Dolan's leave
exiting the tunnel, sell the team. He gets banned and
is told to be a costing Dolan. So the reasons
are drummed up to justify the charges, to just to
fy the means. And now you are the latest recipient.
What do you think this says about biometric data when
it comes to ticket holders?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh, boy, do I have lots of thoughts.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So something I'm dressing about a minute to give us
about forty five.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Seconds, got you. Yeah, So I hadn't been to the
venue in nearly twenty years, and they only instituted the
biometrics in twenty eighteen. These and all the special recognition
cameras everywhere, So there's no way they have had my
biometrics other than going to my social media, my old
Flicker account, right and loading my photos or photos of
(15:34):
myself into their database. So that should any point in
time I walk in one of their buildings, you know,
they got me. And you know, I didn't even know
or assume that I needed to be like watching out
for this because like you know, Homie wore the shirt, right,
And this isn't even like the actual nick game or
anything like this. This is a concert. I'm just trying
(15:54):
to you know, have a good time. So yeah, you know,
our our biometrics, you know that we give for you know,
convenience or strained is like a safety issue. It really
is just about control and and sort of like putting
fear into people to you know, behave in a in
a desired manner, whether that's you know, good, neutral, bad.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They're using you as an example. They're making an example
out of you. Well, you know, well, let's make an
example out of them. Frank, where can people buy your shirt?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Tell us?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Where can people support your shirt?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They can buy my shirt at shop dot f w
MJ dot com f WMJ of my initials Frank will
jor so shop dot f WMJ dot com.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And that is the Bandolean shirt available in sweatshirt form,
hoodie form, t shirt form, every single form, every single color,
every single size. I plan to buy one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't. Don't forget baby ones even T shirts. We don't
see if we can band the children too. He can't
band the kids, can you know?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I hope that he doesn't. But with this guy, who
knows at this point, right, So get out there, everybody
support Frank William Miller Junior what he's dealing with, because
if it's happening to him, it could easily happen to you.
That's shop dot f w MJ dot com. Get that
Bandolen shirt. Wear it. He can't ban all of us,
(17:16):
or maybe he can, but you know we have to.
You got to take a stand, right for sure. I'm
sorry that happened to you, but again. Happy anniversary to
your parents. You know, I'm sure they're proud of you,
and I imagine this made them even prouder of you
because their son stands for things.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean obviously they're sad in the moment,
but over the next couple of days they're like, you
know what, just because he has a bunch of money
doesn't mean he should be able to do this kind
of thing to people. You know, if I had a
little more shame, I might have been like embarrassed in
the moment, but I was just like, man, how goofy
is this to be a billionaire and be worried about,
(17:56):
you know, somebody that's paying to be in a building.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just it's it's just very very weird, very weird.
And didn't get my refund.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh well, I'm sure that the shirt the shirt sells
will help with that and we'll try and do our
best to support that as well. Frank, thank you so
much for coming on KFI. You're welcome back anytime, and again,
get out to shop dot f WMJ dot com to
get that bandolen shirt and a bunch of other cool merchandise,
and just to see what Frank has been up to online.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Thank you, Frank, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You got it. It's KFI a M six forty live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
K if I am six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. It's Saturdays with Tiffany here until seven pm,
and then Michael Monks comes aboard, so make sure you
stay tuned for that. This next conversation we're going to
have is going to surprise you in many different ways.
It should, it should concern you, it should shock you,
(00:22):
it may humor you. But the impetus or the objective
of this conversation is to inform you about things that
very well may happen to you if you're not careful.
And it's not that our next guest wasn't careful. No,
what he did was intentional, but the ramifications the consequences
of something that he created are bar none and they're unprecedented,
(00:46):
and we're going to talk about what that is in
a moment. Allow me to introduce you to Frank William
Miller Junior. Frank has enjoyed quite a varied career. He's
navigated the worlds of culture, music, social good. He's worked
with everyone from a tribe called quest if You're a
Hip Hop Fan, to Nike to Rockstar Games. And Frank
(01:11):
has spent over fifteen years in both the corporate and
entertainment sectors. He handled graphics at a leading radio station
in New York. He also has worked on major record
breaking video games such as Red Dead, Redemption and Max
Payne three. He even became the marketing designer for Complex,
which is a very popular magazine founded by fashion designer
(01:36):
and it focuses on style, sneakers, food, music, sports, and
pop culture. Frank has been all over the map in
the digital design world, even working at Matter Unlimited, where
he applied his skills and experiences to support clients such
as Seth and Lauren Rogan's Hilarity for Charity and data
(01:58):
dot Org. In addition to everything that Frank has done,
and his resume is a laundry list of accomplishments, I'd
also want to note that he served as the consulting
art director for Questlove's released documentary Summer of Soul, which
won an Academy Award. In addition to all of these
(02:20):
things that Frank has done, I think Frank is most
celebrated for being reachable. He is an everyman. He is
friend to many and supporter of all, and Frank, unfortunately
is finding himself embroiled in his own sort of scandal.
His own sort of controversy, and it's not because he
(02:43):
did anything negative. In fact, it's the opposite. He called
for accountability. And what Frank did is Frank created a
T shirt in twenty twenty one, and that T shirt
calls to ban James Dolan. James Dolan is the owner
of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden. James Dolan did
(03:07):
not like that T shirt. That T shirt was sold,
was supported, and one of Frank's supporters actually wore the
T shirt to a game years ago, and I'll let
Frank tell the details of that story in a bit,
and received their own consequence, a ban from Madison Square
Garden well four years after that T shirt was made
(03:28):
in protest of James Dolan banning former Knicks player Charles
Oakley in twenty seventeen. That's where the T shirt comes from.
Ban Dolan. James Dolan has called for the banning of Frank.
William Miller Junior, and Frank found out in a very
unceremonious way and a way to me that's upsetting given
(03:50):
that he was with his family when he found out.
But in addition to everything that we're going to talk
about again, I just want to preface that Frank is extremely,
extremely talented, and I just I hate Frank that now
this is what comes up when you google your name.
But I'm glad that attention is being paid to you
(04:11):
so that you can not only rake in more revenue
for these shirts, but spread more of your message. I
think your biggest crime, first and foremost, though, is being
a Knicks fan. But we'll get into that. Let's welcome
Frank William Miller to this show. Thanks Frank for.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Coming on, Thanks for having me. That is that's quite
the intro.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's you know, it's a laundry list, like I said,
And that's not even everything, right. It's kind of hard,
weird to hear about yourself and all these things.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right, a little bit, some of the things I even forgot.
But yeah, being a Knicks fan. Talk about long suffering,
and this is like another another pedal in that bag
of long suffering. Yeah, where can I start?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Tell us about the four years ago you had a concept,
right Knicks fan, longtime fan? You were? You were you
were watching the moves of the CEO of Madison Square Garden,
who also happens to own the next basketball team, and you,
as a fan, saw something happen in twenty seventeen and
decided to make a call to action using your merchandise store.
(05:17):
Start there and then tell us about how it got
a claim and popularity.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. So, you know, I was a big Knicks fan
in the nineties. I was living in Texas, which made
it especially tough because the Knicks lost to the Houston
Rockets in ninety four and the San Antonio Spurs in
nineteen ninety nine. Around then is why I gave up
on being a pro sports fan, you know. Anyway, But
Charles Oakley is a legendary Knicks player, and he got
(05:44):
kicked out of the garden and arrested in twenty seventeen,
And as you can imagine, this week, people have been
sending me articles about the incident. Again, it's refreshing my memory.
I didn't realize that him and his wife separated over
you know that as part of the fallout of him
being kicked out, did they? Wow? I didn't. Yeah. Yeah,
So I made a meme in the style of the
(06:04):
old New York Knicks logo that said Dan Dolan because
the Knicks are an institution for New York City, bigger
than whoever owns it. At the moment whatever, a billionaire
owns it at the moment, and I just thought it
was something funny to share in a couple of group chats,
as like a graphic exercise as a designer. Somebody said,
you know what, that would be funny on a shirt.
(06:25):
So what did I do? I put it on a shirt,
threw it up and kind of forgot about it. A
couple of my friends bought it, you know, to wear
and be funny. But that was it. Then in twenty
twenty one, a friend of mine that I used to
work with, he wore the T shirt to a k
next game his girlfriend had gotten in birthday tickets. They
were sitting very very close. Within five minutes of him
(06:47):
being in the arena and the game starting, he took
off his jacket because he's getting a little warm in there,
and he was approached by Medicine Square Garden security and
just scored it up the building and issued a band Wow,
you know, ay, there's thousands of people in the in
the arena, Like, how do you spot him that quickly
(07:07):
and remove him? So that was the initial thing. We
talked about it the week after he got thrown out.
Max Kellerman and Steven a. Smith did a couple of
segments on what kind of a man baby that Dawn
was being over this and getting into spats with individual
fans much less you know, previous players for the franchise.
(07:32):
So fast forward to this past Monday. I'm in New
York City visiting with my family. It's their forty seventh anniversary.
I've gotten them Cleo Sould tickets at Radio Music City
Radio City Music Hall, which is a Madison Square Garden
entertainment venue. Yep, and yeah, I found out that I
(07:53):
was also placed on a band. After scanning my ticket,
I tried to walk into you know, the security line.
We have to go to the middle detectives. Make sure
you don't have any thanks, sharp and funny. My old
roommate who came along with me, she had my phone
in her bag. She went through the middle detective first,
and then venue security sort of rushed our specific security line.
(08:16):
There was like four or five of them on the
fiftieth Street entrance of the building. They stopped their line specifically,
It's like, hold on, hold on, we may have a
potential P five. You know, it's real theatrical. He has
his hand on his earpiece and looking real official in
the black suit, and he said, hey, yeah, that's him
and points at me. So I'm like, whoa. They pulled
(08:38):
me off the line and we go through another door,
which ends up taking us to the sixth Avenue entrance
to Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm gon pause you right there, Frank. We're going to
pick up on the other side, and I want you
to continue what happened. How what you were served with,
which is vary to me rudimentary when you see it,
and Frank explains it, it was very thrown together for
the moment. But I'll let you tell the story, and
then we'll talk about some of the implications therein for security,
(09:09):
for facial recognition and other AI technology that may have
come into play when it comes to these privacy concerns,
and what Dolan was able to institute, as well as
some history about James Dolan that I dug up. This
is not, of course the first ban because of James
Dolan being sensitive to willing and willful criticism, but Frank
(09:34):
is currently dealing with a lifetime ban to Madison Square
Garden and all of its affiliate venues because James Dolan,
the owner of the Knicks and a CEO and also
a major board member on Madison Square Garden doesn't like
a T shirt that Frank designed four years ago just
(09:55):
to poke fun at James Dolan's I maybe call it
a quick trigger finger, but a band finger maybe. And
Frank is now dealing with a lifetime ban as a
consequence to James Dolan's sensitivities. So Frank, welcome back. You've
just told us how you found out that you were
(10:16):
unwelcome in this at this concert at you said Radio
City Music Hall, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, So I had purchased tickets for my parents.
Is a Christmas slash anniversary gift. My mom really likes
Leo Soul. I really liked Cleo sol who was the
first American show. So after they pulled me off the
security line, they walked me through this door and took
me out to the sixth Avenue entrance of Radio City
Music Hall. So at first I wasn't quite sure what
was going on. Just an hour before, I was talking
(10:45):
to a friend of mine who's, you know, a pretty
big entertainment figure in New York. He was asking me
specifically when my parents anniversary was, and I said it
was today. So I thought he had some pool with
the venue and maybe he was like upgrading our seat.
They was going to have this like, you know, right
up front, but no, they were going to put my
ass right out front, out the front door. So I
(11:06):
was I was flanked by about seven to eight venue
security personnel.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Your parents anniversary, my parents.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
At the literal anniversary.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, can we give a shout out to your parents?
First of all, forty seven years is a beautiful accomplishment.
And I've seen pictures of your folks. They just look
so happy.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, they were. They were happy until about about then. Yeah,
I was flanked by about six or seven security personnel.
You know, once I realized the sort of like position
they had around me, probably like two hundred and seventy
degree you know, like surrounding me. They had their body
cams on, I was like, oh, this is something else.
This is definitely not my seat's getting upgraded. My friend
(11:52):
who I was talking to earlier, he was walking in
the entrance through security of sixth Avenue right as I
was getting himed up. So I was like, dude, what's up.
And I'm like, no, I am not good. He's like like,
I don't know. So he tried to like talk to security.
They're like it's above me now, and like here, this
is like billionaire problems versus millionaire. Like a millionaire is
(12:13):
not going to help me in that situation. So he
goes through. He goes through and tries to calm my
parents down and talk to them and let them know
what's happening. And once they have a New York City
police officer there is a witness, they hand me a
piece of paper this is trespass notice or something and
details that because of my misbehavior at Medicine Square Gardener
(12:35):
one of its affiliate venues, I am banned ined definitely
from all of these properties and if I set foot
on them again, they can sack the laws on me.
So you know, I've at this point I think all
of us realize there's no chance to be seeing the
show tonight. So I asked her two things. I asked
for my phone back from my roommate who's on the
other side of in the lobby. After she went through security,
(12:56):
they were nice enough to go get me that, and
then I asked him, like, if I was to appeal
this is, They're like some web form. Do I need
to go to the office? You know, I have no
intention of appealing, but I don't want the stake, So
I just wanted to know, hoping they would tell me,
like what they were banning me for, and they told
me it was because of an incident in twenty twenty
(13:17):
one when I was at Madison Square Garden. So I'm like,
it's still not clicking yet that it's over the shirt,
but I'm like, I haven't been to Madison Square Garden
since two thousand and six, and the only reason I
went is because I had tickets from work when I
used to work at the radio station in New York.
I had tickets to that next game they're playing the Celtics.
They beat the Celtics foray, and then later that year
(13:40):
in two thousand and six, it was the last time
I'd ever been to Radio City Music Hall because Jay
Z had his tenth anniversary or reasonable Dell concert there.
He drove the White Lexus on stage and everything. But
that's the last time I've been in any of those
two venues. As you know, Madison Square Garden sits on
top of Penn Station in New York, so I've been
to the train station, but I've not been to the
guard So there's no incident in twenty twenty one. Those
(14:02):
are the COVID years, right. I'm out here in Seattle
where I live now, that's three thousand miles away. So
I had no day in twenty twenty one, much less
tonight in question, which I realized looking back was four
years in one day, probably to be getting kicked out
on Monday. So happy belated birthday to my friend that
got kicked out, right, And you know it again.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It the fact that it's four years later, and the
fact that James Dolan has a history of these bannings.
Obviously Charles Oakley in twenty seventeen, another fan a few
years ago who called for Dolan to sell the team.
He just yelled to Dolan, hey, sell the team because
the Knicks have a very poor record. Everyone knows it.
(14:46):
And so this fan yells to Dolan as Dolan's leave
exiting the tunnel, sell the team. He gets banned and
is told to be a costing Dolan. So the reasons
are drummed up to justify the charges, to just to
fy the means. And now you are the latest recipient.
What do you think this says about biometric data when
it comes to ticket holders?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh, boy, do I have lots of thoughts.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So something I'm dressing about a minute to give us
about forty five.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Seconds, got you. Yeah, So I hadn't been to the
venue in nearly twenty years, and they only instituted the
biometrics in twenty eighteen. These and all the special recognition
cameras everywhere, So there's no way they have had my
biometrics other than going to my social media, my old
Flicker account, right and loading my photos or photos of
(15:34):
myself into their database. So that should any point in
time I walk in one of their buildings, you know,
they got me. And you know, I didn't even know
or assume that I needed to be like watching out
for this because like you know, Homie wore the shirt, right,
And this isn't even like the actual nick game or
anything like this. This is a concert. I'm just trying
(15:54):
to you know, have a good time. So yeah, you know,
our our biometrics, you know that we give for you know,
convenience or strained is like a safety issue. It really
is just about control and and sort of like putting
fear into people to you know, behave in a in
a desired manner, whether that's you know, good, neutral, bad.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They're using you as an example. They're making an example
out of you. Well, you know, well, let's make an
example out of them. Frank, where can people buy your shirt?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Tell us?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Where can people support your shirt?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They can buy my shirt at shop dot f w
MJ dot com f WMJ of my initials Frank will
jor so shop dot f WMJ dot com.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And that is the Bandolean shirt available in sweatshirt form,
hoodie form, t shirt form, every single form, every single color,
every single size. I plan to buy one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't. Don't forget baby ones even T shirts. We don't
see if we can band the children too. He can't
band the kids, can you know?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I hope that he doesn't. But with this guy, who
knows at this point, right, So get out there, everybody
support Frank William Miller Junior what he's dealing with, because
if it's happening to him, it could easily happen to you.
That's shop dot f w MJ dot com. Get that
Bandolen shirt. Wear it. He can't ban all of us,
(17:16):
or maybe he can, but you know we have to.
You got to take a stand, right for sure. I'm
sorry that happened to you, but again. Happy anniversary to
your parents. You know, I'm sure they're proud of you,
and I imagine this made them even prouder of you
because their son stands for things.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean obviously they're sad in the moment,
but over the next couple of days they're like, you
know what, just because he has a bunch of money
doesn't mean he should be able to do this kind
of thing to people. You know, if I had a
little more shame, I might have been like embarrassed in
the moment, but I was just like, man, how goofy
is this to be a billionaire and be worried about,
(17:56):
you know, somebody that's paying to be in a building.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's just it's it's just very very weird, very weird.
And didn't get my refund.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh well, I'm sure that the shirt the shirt sells
will help with that and we'll try and do our
best to support that as well. Frank, thank you so
much for coming on KFI. You're welcome back anytime, and again,
get out to shop dot f WMJ dot com to
get that bandolen shirt and a bunch of other cool merchandise,
and just to see what Frank has been up to online.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Thank you, Frank, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You got it. It's KFI a M six forty live
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