May 17, 2025 • 32 mins
Join us for a fascinating dive into the booming world of person-to-person service marketplaces! Lou Shapiro takes us behind the scenes of the high-profile Diddy trial and delves into the recent developments surrounding the resentencing of the Menendez brothers. Don’t miss out on these captivating stories that are shaping the landscape of justice and commerce!
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it was said police. The police chief out there said
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community is in danger any longer and that this was
an isolated incident. So hopefully that can help put some
anxiety to bed. One of the things that I want
to get into next is a part of our Deeper
Dives segment and in speaking about Palm Springs, a place
that I love to visit, have grown up visiting.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's close, just.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right down that ten freeway. One of the things that
I do now more than I ever did, was using
private rental platforms to find accommodations. You can stay with
family if you have family, you can stay with a
friend certainly, or you can.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Book a hotel.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But one of the more popular things to do for
people when they are vacationing, either short vacations or lengthy
is to use these platform websites like Airbnb, heard of it,
like Verbo, You heard of that one to find an
accommodation that is more private and hopefully secure. And so
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in today's deeper dives, I want to really take a
look at why these sorts of platforms have taken off,
why the person to person rental environment has become such
a major draw for people, the factors behind the popularity,
the revenue generated by these websites, these apps hint hint massive,
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and what is coming in the future when it comes
to these sorts of apps. So, in speaking about Airbnb,
I like Airbnb a lot of people. They have their criticisms,
and I've also experienced kind of the darker side of Airbnb,
with maybe homes or apartments that weren't really as cleaner
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up to standard. But it is a convenient and easy
way to book in a comic that will afford you privacy,
will afford you more rooms or more space than your
average hotel room, may give you a pool or a
full kitchen, allow for you to enjoy yourself with the
creature comforts of home or as close to that as possible.
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And with sites like Airbnb, there are other ways that
people have taken to making money for themselves and making
this kind of passive income. Airbnb was probably the first
major peer to peer sharing or rental platform. It started
in two thousand and seven simply two people wanted to
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let people stay with them, and they put up their
home on a website and said you can rent this space.
That took off, and now they generate hundreds of millions
of dollars per year. There I believe valued is to
the billions. Their IPO is into the billions at this point.
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But because of their popularity, and because of their popularity,
lots of other sites have taken off. For instance, have
you heard of swim plea sounds like simply swim Plea.
What a clever little name. You can rent a pool.
I'll tell you a little bit more about that to come.
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Have you heard about task Rabbit. You can get someone
by going online to the app to come over and
install a light bulb, or take out some furniture that's
too heavy for you, or clean up your place. Instead
of going through a major service, you can work directly
with a person. What about Toro t Uro That is
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the alternative to these major car rental companies like your
Enterprise or your Hurts. Instead, you can take a vehicle,
your own or another. If you have a secondary or
third vehicle, post it on the app and allow it
to be rented by someone who's interested. They can come
directly to you to rent your car. Did you know
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that if you have a pet, let's say a dog,
and you don't have a yard that's to your liking.
There's a new app called sniff Spot where you can
rent the yards of people or spaces available to you
for a certain amount of time at a certain price
point to allow your furry little friend to enjoy the
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open air in a controlled setting. All of these apps
generate billions of dollars in revenue. Combined and singularly and
are a wonderful way that people have discovered they can
make passive and residual income. So why why are these
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apps so popular? Well, for one, the privacy and exclusivity
the apps provide is a draw for people who are
interested in using the services.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Again, if you don't want a hotel, you can get
a three bedroom.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Home and a place where you want to stay. You
might even be able to now, according to Airbnb, tack
on additional services like a chef or like a masseuse,
whatever it is you want, maybe someone to come in
and teach you lessons in the language of the place
you're visiting. These are all add ons that Airbnb provides.
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But the privacy and exclusivity is something that people enjoy.
Just like having a private yard for your dog versus
taking them to maybe a dog park or walking them
out in public. You want a yard, so you go hey,
and this then meets that moment. There's also the convenience
and flexibility of these apps.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
These apps are really easy to use. They're very user friendly.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You get on the platform has everything you need, there's
a menu and you just basically select and just like
you would at any restaurant. You can add on additional sides,
like a language teacher, or or like a specific kind
of accommodation in a car, maybe a car seat, or
perhaps a task that you want to get filled. But
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the convenience and flexibility allows for people to enjoy these
services without the stressors of wondering what they're going to
get or if it's going to be to their liking.
When we come back, i'll tell you a few more
reasons why these sharing apps, these peer to peers sharing
apps are exploding in popularity all around the country and globally.
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And we'll look closely, a little bit more closely at
some of these apps to see what the future may hold,
because this is a train These are successful, and there
are a lot more in the pipeline, and it could
be a great way for you, perhaps to make some
extra income, especially since one hundred thousand dollar in California
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means that we're all poor.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
We all need some extra money.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We'll continue this conversation for our deeper dive segment on
the other side of the break, and remember stay tuned
to KFI for updates on that breaking news out of
Palm Springs. It's KFI Am six forty live everywhere on
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Speaker 4 (08:17):
Tifney Hobbs here with you.
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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
A recap of what's happened this week with the Sean P.
Diddy Comb's case, that racketeering and sex trafficking case that
is well underway in Los Angeles and the developments that
have come out of that case. So Attorney Lou Shapiro,
friend of the station, friend of the show. We've had
him on numerous times before. He'll be on with us
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again to discuss that. Now, back to these sharing platform
apps like Airbnb, Turo, Swimply, sniff Spot, task Rabbit. The
names go on and on and on. Why are they
so pop And in the first part of this deep
dive we did look in fact at the things that
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they provide, including privacy, exclusivity. It's easy, it's really easy
to book on these apps. There's a convenience factor that
is high. There is that flexibility and if you don't
want it, you can cancel, sometimes for a fee, sometimes
for nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But it makes you jump.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Through fewer hoops per se than if you go through
a major accommodation provider. Like a hotel chain or like
a rental car service, say Enterprise or Hurts or something
to that effect. It also is cost effective. It's a
cost effective alternative. Let's say you want to have a pool,
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you want to rent a pool and producer Kayla, you
were talking about the fact that you've used swimply.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You used it for what to.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Rent my friend to her birthday through swim lea swimplely
two times and we both well, we went to a
pool with a bunch of our friends, bought our own food,
bought our own beverages. They had pool toys, basketball courts,
and it was so much fun. You must make over
one hundred thousand dollars a year. I don't like to brag,
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but you had a good time.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Amazing time. Was it convenient? Super convenient.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
All I had to do was pull up and pull
out my burgers from Jack in the Box and that
was it. You know how much it costs. I just
know that we all pitched in a certain amount. Yeah,
we were able to do it. I can't remember what
the amount was though, because it was like a couple
of years ago, so about a year and a half
two years ago. I used Swimpley as well, and booked
a pool in the Hollywood Hills during a beautiful summer
day just to enjoy the views. And this pool sixty dollars,
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I want to say, for a ninety minute rental which
was pretty affordable, decked out, lovely accommodations, and sixty dollars
would be a far better choice than say, booking a
hotel room and then sharing that pool with other hotel guests,
children included.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
We wanted the exclusivity, we wanted the privacy, and we
wanted the convenience, and we got it with that particular
app with Swimpley, as you said you did, Kayla. So
it's cost effective when you get to Airbnb. If you've
ever used Airbnb, you very well maybe spending under one
hundred and fifty dollars per night for a beautiful home
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that could be for you, only you're not in a room,
a two hundred and fifty square foot room with a
small shower and the neighbors on either side of you
making noise. You can actually book an entire house or
apartment for let's say, a fraction of the cost of
a hotel room. So it is cost effective and it
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can help with the expenses of a vacation, and as
we know, those expenses are just skyrocketing. It's expensive to
take a vacation, whether close to you or far. It
also provides these apps a unique experience beyond just going
to a hotel room. You can enjoy the environment by
putting yourself, say in a neighborhood within a place that
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you want to learn more about. Or you can again
get language lessons or cooking lessons using these sharing platforms.
So it provides a unique experience. You also can use
these four parties or wedding venues or for anything that
you want to do a photo shoot, a baby shower,
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things like these. These places, these platforms allow for that
unique experience as well. Task rabbit, let's say you have
some unique task. You can rent someone to come out
and do that for you. As a single woman. Task
rabbit is literally the best thing ever. People come and
mount my TVs, put my furniture together, clean my house,
but they do it all.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I love it. I love task rabbits.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, it's very convenient, very easy, and of course there's
the economic aspect. It gives you that extra income and
people who host on these apps, people who provide the
services on these apps say that they make so much
extra income passively simply by letting their car be rented.
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Out of course insurance comes into play, but that it
does help. Or that now you can rent the yard,
or you can rent the room in your home, or
you can provide a task hanging a TV, take a
TV down, whatever it may be, dog walking. There's all
sorts of these peer to peer, a person to person
sharing opportunities, and the convenience, the flexibility, the fact that
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they're considered to be a safer alternative to these public
spaces definitely helps. So these apps are not slowing down.
It seems that more and more are coming out. There
are more in the pipeline. If you're interested in any
of them, Google, you can probably find an app for that.
As they say, I remember those old commercials, there's an
app for that is literally an app for everything. When
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we come back, we're going to talk to Attorney Lou
Shapiro about all things Sean P.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Diddy Comb's trial.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh salacious, salacious, sulacious.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We'll hear all about it and more.
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On the other side of the break, it's KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Tiffany Hobbs
here with you until seven.
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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's Saturdays with Tiffany from five to seven, and we
are talking to our friend, friend of the show, friend
of the station, friend of many stations right now, given
all of the legal news floating around, Lou Shapiro, Lou,
nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Hey, great to do, fact do Tiffey. You know you
always have a special place in my heart, so I'll
be here for you when you call.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Lou.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know you always answer the call no matter what,
and I appreciate it, especially since you are the resident
legal expert. As the powerful attorney you are on ever
everything trial related. So let's jump right into it. Thank
you for your time. Let's get into this Sean P.
Diddy Comb's trial. Oh my gosh, how salacious has this
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first couple of days been.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Lou, Well, you have to give it up for the prosecution.
They're coming out fighting. They knew it was not going
to be a simple walk in the park case, so
they put on probably their best witness in the whole case.
Uh you know, Ventura. She came in charged up, emotional, serious,
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good poise, eight months broke down in the right moments,
eight months pregnant. Yeah, it's just it's not everything you
don't want the defense, Yeah yeah, but yeah, yeah, everything
you don't want. If you're on the defense side, you're
just looking at this witness and you're like, oh no,
this is the this is how we got to start
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the case. And then of course there's the video that's
right there to corrop break, you know, the violence, and
it's just so offensive to watch.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It really is it really is what are the specific
charges Sean Combs is actually looking at or dealing with.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Facing right, So it's the idea is that he had
this racketeering enterprise where people in his inner circle would
be involved in sex trafficking, bringing people from out of
state to him to do things against their will. That's
the basic summary of it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Okay, And you know what I've seen what I've been
hearing of the trial because obviously some of the documents
or transcripts have gone public and they're circulating around social
media and the news. What I'm seeing it seems to
be the defensive strategy to almost paint Cassie Ventura the
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star witness as someone who was a willing participant in
all of these activities.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
What say you to that?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Well, the best thing going for the defense on her
is what came out today in trial is that she
accepted a twenty million dollar settlement to not say anything.
So I think for a lot of those jurorys they're thinking, wow,
I mean twenty million dollars that most have not seen
even a fraction of that in their lifetime, So some
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of them might be a little resentful. They're like, here's
someone that was with him for ten years, didn't complain
to anybody, didn't go to law enforcement, collected a twenty
million dollar pay day at the end of it. Does
that seem like someone who's set your victim? You know,
that's one way. The other way they might look at
it is wow. The fact that Diddy was willing to
pay twenty million dollars must mean that there really was
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some truth to this and therefore he wanted to bury it.
So it means to be seen how the jury's going
to receive that, but it could go either way.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And in speaking about what's happening between Sean P. Diddy,
Combs and Cassie, is this a civil trial, a criminal trial.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Are there elements of both? What's going on with that?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So there was a civil case that started first that
really got the criminal case going on. Once the civil
case was filed that had talked about all the abuse
both emotional and physical that was perpetrated on her at
the hands of Ditty, and then other victims followed by
filing their own civil complaints that got the attention of
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the US Attorney's office. We then also filed the criminal case.
So the civil case has been stayed, meaning it's been
put on the freezer until the criminal case is handled.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We're talking to attorney Luce Shapiro about the Sean P.
Diddy Combs case. Lou is this trial part of a
larger investigation or sex trafficking ring? Or is this specific
to Shawn Combs and Shawn Combs only.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So it's interesting because right now it's specific to Shawn
Comb's only. I think a lot of people watching this case.
From the beginning, we were expecting other defendants to be
named in his inner circle as co defendants or what's
called co conspirators, and usually that's what the prosecution does
and gets them to flip on the lead person. So
they didn't do that in this case, so it'll be
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interesting to see if they're able to get anyone in
his inner circle to back up the fact that this
was some kind of sex trafficking ring that he was running.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And then you know, also in listening to what's come
out of it, there have been lots of celebrity names
thus far talked about in conjunction with this case. Those
names include Mike Michael, Michael Myers, Mike Myers, the actor
Michael B. Jordan, who is experiencing quite a bit of
success right now with his recent movie Ciners. I'm sure
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he doesn't want this sort of publicity attached to his name.
Why are these names coming out, Well.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They're coming out because this is somebody Dinny who is
basically in that category of very high profile he A
List celebrities. These are the people that he would mingle with.
So it's hard to say. We haven't heard exact evidence
of this, but if there are other A listeners that
knew him well, would hang out with him, knew about
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these things and didn't say anything, that's obviously not going
to reflect well on their reputation in the community. So
it's something that they're worried about. And they hope it
doesn't drag their name to the mud as well, even
though they're not criminally charged along with him.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay, and then as Sean P died, he combs is
he actually has he actually pleaded guilty to this? Is
he pleading no contest, not guilty? Where are we standing
with that?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
So he's plugged, not guilty, denying all allegations and enhancements,
and he's going to trial to completely dispute everything. He's innocent,
he didn't do any of this. And his defense lawyer said, look,
if you want to convict him of being a jerk,
being violent, that's one thing, but that's not what he's
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on trial for. He's on trial for running a sex
trafficking ring. That is something entirely different and much more egregious. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And that's the other thing I've been seeing as well,
is that people are somewhat conflating, you know, the unique
let's say, things that Sean P didcumbs might like in
the bedroom or other bedrooms with actual crime, criminal activity,
the trafficking, the abuse, the acts against Cassie Ventur and
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these other victims, will in considering everything that we've heard
thus far, I know it's really early into the trial,
but you are well versed and you have your ear
to the ground with this.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
What do you predict next? What can we look forward to?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, I think this case is going to turn on
can the prosecution get people in Daed's inner circle, whether
it's it's an assistant, PA, somebody that's going to say yes,
I was ordered to go on Craigslist, find people in
other states, bring them here under the guys or rules
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that they were going to do a but in the
end when they got here they were forced to do
bet that's what the case is going to turn on.
And we have to see if those witnesses exist and
if they do, are they willing to take the stand
and testify for the prosecution against Diddy?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You have a wealth of information. I want to keep
you on. Can we talk about the Menindez brothers trial
after the break?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
There's some breaking.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
News right absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
We're talking to Attorney LUs Shapiro about all things trial.
Lots of trials going on right now in the news.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Shan P.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Ditty combs the Menindaz brothers. Maybe we'll sneak in something
else if we have time, but we'll continue this conversation
on the other side of the break Robin.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I think we have a talk back. Can we get
to that talkback really quick?
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
Thank you so much for that. I wasn't aware that
you could do that through Redweek.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
See these platforms just keep on evolving and speaking about
Palm Springs, remember to keep it right here on KFI
AM six forty as we continue with the details as
they emerge out of Palm Springs about that vehicular explosion
outside of the American Reproductive Clinic on Indian Canyon happened
earlier this morning, So we'll continue with updates throughout the evening,
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all weekend and certainly into next week. And Michael Monks
will be coming on at seven to keep that conversation
going with details. It's KFI AM six forty Live everywhere.
On the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand talking.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
To attorney lu Shapiro, who is just weighed in on
the Sean P. Diddy Combs racketeering Rico sex trafficking case
and whoa, it is a doozy. Well, well, many years
ago there was another trial that was absolutely a doozy.
It was everywhere, and for some reason it came back up.
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I would say that we could point to the Netflix
series because all things considered, the limelight is being once
again shown on the Menindez brothers. And a consequence of that,
or an effect of that, some might say, is that
the Menindez brother's trial was being reassessed, and that reassessment
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has resulted in some breaking news just this week.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Lou Shapiro, can you please.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Tell us what the heck is going on with the
Menindez brothers.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Now, yeah, I'll freel.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
This up for you. So what's happening is when the
Menendez brothers were convicted in their second trial, they were
sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. WO that
means they're not going anywhere. That it was done, it
was throw them in jail, and the key is out.
That's it. Only twenty two though, California passed a law
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it's called a Youth Offender Act, which basically says that
if somebody was twenty six or younger and they committed
this type of crime, even though they were originally deemed
ineligible for parole, if you can show that they are remorseful, rehabilitated,
and are mitigating circumstances to give them a shot at parole,
then a judge has the power to do that. So
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the Menendez brothers, their defense team took advantage of that
law rightfully. So they filed the appropriate emotions, made the
argument in front of the judge, and the judge said, yes,
there is enough here for them to be considered eligible
for parole under this new law that passed in California
a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And now that new law is resulting in their sentences
of life being reduced to fifty years to life, do
I have that right?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
And basically, since they've served over thirty five years for
purposes of parole, they would be eligible given the time
that they have already served to be considered for parole.
When you take into account you get good time credit
as well when you're in custody.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
So they are facing the possibility of release as soon
as when. What has to happen now for the men
Indo's brothers to actually see the light of day.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So on June sixteenth, they are set for a parole
hearing where they will make their pitch as to why
they should be deemed paroled and being released. They have
witnesses that will be testifying declarations that will be follow
on their behalf talking about how they've really changed themselves
and turned their life around the last thirty five years.
One of them even got a college degree. And the
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idea is that they probably will be released on parole.
I mean, they check off all the boxes. The only
question is will Governor Newsom get in the way At
the end of it, he's the only one that can
get in the way of them being released if the
parole board says yes, they should be parlled out.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What do you think or which way do you think
Governor Newsom will lean? I know, with his political aspirations,
there's a lot of attention being paid about on what
he will do with this case and the possible precedents
that it could set. What do you think could potentially happen,
and then what would the blowback be either way.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yeah, this is the last thing that I'm going to
new some wants to be dealing with, because, as if
we're following the news lately, he's basically trying to put
on this image that he's more in the middle now,
he's more centered, even though he was very left leaning
of the over as mayor, governor and so forth, He's
a changed man. He's learned from history. So this situation
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really puts him in a pickle to decide what to do.
But I think at the end of the day, when
he has to make the decision, if they are if
the pro board recommends a release, he will go along
with it, and he will say that this is not
his decision. This is the decision of the judge in
the Los Angeles Superior Court. This is the decision of
the Parole Board. Both of those entities put in a
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lot more time, effort and scoony into this and named
Demi Menanda's brothers eligible for release. Far be it from him,
Governor Newsom, to get in the way of what they
are saying. That's what he will hang their hat on.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I believe, you know, the attorney for the Menindez brothers,
Mark Garrigos, we know him very well. His name has
been around for many decades. At this point, he made
a statement saying that the Menindez brother's case and these
developments are inspiring other inmates to potentially do better in
jail so that they too could potentially see a release,
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an early release because of the precedents that he feels
this release could set.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
What do you think about that, Well.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
It depends on how many descendants are sitting in custody
that committed this type of crime when they were under
the age of twenty six, right, so they have to
fit into the same box. I know with statistics on that,
but there must be some and I think there is
some merit to that message, right. It sends the message
that if you turn your life around, you rehabilitate, then
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there's hope for an early release then you might have had.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And that does speak to what Mark Garago said, specifically
says that we are in the business of rehabilitation. That's
what these sorts of sentences should actually provide the opportunity
for criminals to rehabilitate, to do better, and that's what
he's saying the Menindez brothers have done at nauseum while
incarcerated in the count or in that puts specific jail.
(29:40):
What do you think will happen next? In the court
of public opinion?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
So the court of public opinion is very polarized on
this one because on one side, we just spoke about
the side that looks to rehabilitation, turning one's life around,
redemption if you will. But then there's the other side
that's looking at this saying, hey, if only a Netflix
documentary was made about my loved one sitting incarceration, then
(30:10):
then I also would have a better shot then people,
and people would be protesting during their work hours for
me and bringing attention to them. So I think there's
gonna be resentment to on this. Why them, why not me?
Why not my loved one? So I think we can
expect both sides coming out on this different ways.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Awesome, Lou You are always so informed and so detailed
with your facts, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Where can people reach out to you, follow you, see
anything that you're doing to keep up with all things
Attorney Louse Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Well, thanks, Tiffany, Yeah, I'd always like to readly keep
up on everything. You can follow me on Facebook if
you want. It's a public seupl and can read the viewpoints.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Very Yeah, you're hilarious.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Every day You're garant. It a funny cartoon that will
make you left no matter where you sit on the
political spectrum.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You know, I have a bone because I send you
cartoons and you don't ever post them, and I don't
like that. I feel like my cartoons are falling on
your deaf ears. I need you to post at least
one that I send to you.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
They have to meet a certain threshold. They have to
be current, they gotta be a little They got to
give a little dig. They have to check a few boxes.
But you're getting closer by the submissiontive me, so don't
We'll get there one of these days. No one will
get there.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'm almost there, okay. And where else can people follow
you besides Facebook? Where you are a shrew?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
So if you want to follow me on YouTube, if
you go to lu Shapiro, you'll catch my latest news clips.
Whenever there's a high profile case, I'll usually come out
on it to try to make more sense of it
for the public. That's my goal with legal commentary, to
take difficult, complicated legal contexts and make it accessible so
everybody can enjoy and understand more about the legal process.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that's exactly what you do and what you did tonight, Lou.
Thank you so much for being on with us, and
I can't wait to talk to you the next time.
I'm sure we'll have you back on soon.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Always keep up your sense of humoring wit Tiffany, I'll
cast you later.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
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Saturnaya KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
Apptimmy Hob's here with you until seven. And of course
we're following that breaking news out of Palm Springs where
four people were injured one person was killed in a
vehicular detonation and explosion outside of the American Reproductive Clinic
(00:42):
on Indian Canyon Drive that happened just before eleven o'clock
this morning. So stay tuned to KFI throughout the rest
of the day, all weekend, and certainly certainly into the
beginning of next week for updates about this incident, as
it was said police. The police chief out there said
currently they do not believe in full confidence that the
(01:03):
community is in danger any longer and that this was
an isolated incident. So hopefully that can help put some
anxiety to bed. One of the things that I want
to get into next is a part of our Deeper
Dives segment and in speaking about Palm Springs, a place
that I love to visit, have grown up visiting.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's close, just.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right down that ten freeway. One of the things that
I do now more than I ever did, was using
private rental platforms to find accommodations. You can stay with
family if you have family, you can stay with a
friend certainly, or you can.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Book a hotel.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But one of the more popular things to do for
people when they are vacationing, either short vacations or lengthy
is to use these platform websites like Airbnb, heard of it,
like Verbo, You heard of that one to find an
accommodation that is more private and hopefully secure. And so
(02:11):
in today's deeper dives, I want to really take a
look at why these sorts of platforms have taken off,
why the person to person rental environment has become such
a major draw for people, the factors behind the popularity,
the revenue generated by these websites, these apps hint hint massive,
(02:34):
and what is coming in the future when it comes
to these sorts of apps. So, in speaking about Airbnb,
I like Airbnb a lot of people. They have their criticisms,
and I've also experienced kind of the darker side of Airbnb,
with maybe homes or apartments that weren't really as cleaner
(02:55):
up to standard. But it is a convenient and easy
way to book in a comic that will afford you privacy,
will afford you more rooms or more space than your
average hotel room, may give you a pool or a
full kitchen, allow for you to enjoy yourself with the
creature comforts of home or as close to that as possible.
(03:19):
And with sites like Airbnb, there are other ways that
people have taken to making money for themselves and making
this kind of passive income. Airbnb was probably the first
major peer to peer sharing or rental platform. It started
in two thousand and seven simply two people wanted to
(03:44):
let people stay with them, and they put up their
home on a website and said you can rent this space.
That took off, and now they generate hundreds of millions
of dollars per year. There I believe valued is to
the billions. Their IPO is into the billions at this point.
(04:05):
But because of their popularity, and because of their popularity,
lots of other sites have taken off. For instance, have
you heard of swim plea sounds like simply swim Plea.
What a clever little name. You can rent a pool.
I'll tell you a little bit more about that to come.
(04:25):
Have you heard about task Rabbit. You can get someone
by going online to the app to come over and
install a light bulb, or take out some furniture that's
too heavy for you, or clean up your place. Instead
of going through a major service, you can work directly
with a person. What about Toro t Uro That is
(04:48):
the alternative to these major car rental companies like your
Enterprise or your Hurts. Instead, you can take a vehicle,
your own or another. If you have a secondary or
third vehicle, post it on the app and allow it
to be rented by someone who's interested. They can come
directly to you to rent your car. Did you know
(05:10):
that if you have a pet, let's say a dog,
and you don't have a yard that's to your liking.
There's a new app called sniff Spot where you can
rent the yards of people or spaces available to you
for a certain amount of time at a certain price
point to allow your furry little friend to enjoy the
(05:32):
open air in a controlled setting. All of these apps
generate billions of dollars in revenue. Combined and singularly and
are a wonderful way that people have discovered they can
make passive and residual income. So why why are these
(05:52):
apps so popular? Well, for one, the privacy and exclusivity
the apps provide is a draw for people who are
interested in using the services.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Again, if you don't want a hotel, you can get
a three bedroom.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Home and a place where you want to stay. You
might even be able to now, according to Airbnb, tack
on additional services like a chef or like a masseuse,
whatever it is you want, maybe someone to come in
and teach you lessons in the language of the place
you're visiting. These are all add ons that Airbnb provides.
(06:29):
But the privacy and exclusivity is something that people enjoy.
Just like having a private yard for your dog versus
taking them to maybe a dog park or walking them
out in public. You want a yard, so you go hey,
and this then meets that moment. There's also the convenience
and flexibility of these apps.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
These apps are really easy to use. They're very user friendly.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You get on the platform has everything you need, there's
a menu and you just basically select and just like
you would at any restaurant. You can add on additional sides,
like a language teacher, or or like a specific kind
of accommodation in a car, maybe a car seat, or
perhaps a task that you want to get filled. But
(07:15):
the convenience and flexibility allows for people to enjoy these
services without the stressors of wondering what they're going to
get or if it's going to be to their liking.
When we come back, i'll tell you a few more
reasons why these sharing apps, these peer to peers sharing
apps are exploding in popularity all around the country and globally.
(07:39):
And we'll look closely, a little bit more closely at
some of these apps to see what the future may hold,
because this is a train These are successful, and there
are a lot more in the pipeline, and it could
be a great way for you, perhaps to make some
extra income, especially since one hundred thousand dollar in California
(08:01):
means that we're all poor.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
We all need some extra money.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We'll continue this conversation for our deeper dive segment on
the other side of the break, and remember stay tuned
to KFI for updates on that breaking news out of
Palm Springs. It's KFI Am six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Tifney Hobbs here with you.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
A recap of what's happened this week with the Sean P.
Diddy Comb's case, that racketeering and sex trafficking case that
is well underway in Los Angeles and the developments that
have come out of that case. So Attorney Lou Shapiro,
friend of the station, friend of the show. We've had
him on numerous times before. He'll be on with us
(08:45):
again to discuss that. Now, back to these sharing platform
apps like Airbnb, Turo, Swimply, sniff Spot, task Rabbit. The
names go on and on and on. Why are they
so pop And in the first part of this deep
dive we did look in fact at the things that
(09:06):
they provide, including privacy, exclusivity. It's easy, it's really easy
to book on these apps. There's a convenience factor that
is high. There is that flexibility and if you don't
want it, you can cancel, sometimes for a fee, sometimes
for nothing at all.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But it makes you jump.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Through fewer hoops per se than if you go through
a major accommodation provider. Like a hotel chain or like
a rental car service, say Enterprise or Hurts or something
to that effect. It also is cost effective. It's a
cost effective alternative. Let's say you want to have a pool,
(09:50):
you want to rent a pool and producer Kayla, you
were talking about the fact that you've used swimply.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You used it for what to.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Rent my friend to her birthday through swim lea swimplely
two times and we both well, we went to a
pool with a bunch of our friends, bought our own food,
bought our own beverages. They had pool toys, basketball courts,
and it was so much fun. You must make over
one hundred thousand dollars a year. I don't like to brag,
(10:18):
but you had a good time.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Amazing time. Was it convenient? Super convenient.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
All I had to do was pull up and pull
out my burgers from Jack in the Box and that
was it. You know how much it costs. I just
know that we all pitched in a certain amount. Yeah,
we were able to do it. I can't remember what
the amount was though, because it was like a couple
of years ago, so about a year and a half
two years ago. I used Swimpley as well, and booked
a pool in the Hollywood Hills during a beautiful summer
day just to enjoy the views. And this pool sixty dollars,
(10:47):
I want to say, for a ninety minute rental which
was pretty affordable, decked out, lovely accommodations, and sixty dollars
would be a far better choice than say, booking a
hotel room and then sharing that pool with other hotel guests,
children included.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
We wanted the exclusivity, we wanted the privacy, and we
wanted the convenience, and we got it with that particular
app with Swimpley, as you said you did, Kayla. So
it's cost effective when you get to Airbnb. If you've
ever used Airbnb, you very well maybe spending under one
hundred and fifty dollars per night for a beautiful home
(11:29):
that could be for you, only you're not in a room,
a two hundred and fifty square foot room with a
small shower and the neighbors on either side of you
making noise. You can actually book an entire house or
apartment for let's say, a fraction of the cost of
a hotel room. So it is cost effective and it
(11:50):
can help with the expenses of a vacation, and as
we know, those expenses are just skyrocketing. It's expensive to
take a vacation, whether close to you or far. It
also provides these apps a unique experience beyond just going
to a hotel room. You can enjoy the environment by
putting yourself, say in a neighborhood within a place that
(12:14):
you want to learn more about. Or you can again
get language lessons or cooking lessons using these sharing platforms.
So it provides a unique experience. You also can use
these four parties or wedding venues or for anything that
you want to do a photo shoot, a baby shower,
(12:35):
things like these. These places, these platforms allow for that
unique experience as well. Task rabbit, let's say you have
some unique task. You can rent someone to come out
and do that for you. As a single woman. Task
rabbit is literally the best thing ever. People come and
mount my TVs, put my furniture together, clean my house,
but they do it all.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I love it. I love task rabbits.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, it's very convenient, very easy, and of course there's
the economic aspect. It gives you that extra income and
people who host on these apps, people who provide the
services on these apps say that they make so much
extra income passively simply by letting their car be rented.
(13:17):
Out of course insurance comes into play, but that it
does help. Or that now you can rent the yard,
or you can rent the room in your home, or
you can provide a task hanging a TV, take a
TV down, whatever it may be, dog walking. There's all
sorts of these peer to peer, a person to person
sharing opportunities, and the convenience, the flexibility, the fact that
(13:39):
they're considered to be a safer alternative to these public
spaces definitely helps. So these apps are not slowing down.
It seems that more and more are coming out. There
are more in the pipeline. If you're interested in any
of them, Google, you can probably find an app for that.
As they say, I remember those old commercials, there's an
app for that is literally an app for everything. When
(14:03):
we come back, we're going to talk to Attorney Lou
Shapiro about all things Sean P.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Diddy Comb's trial.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh salacious, salacious, sulacious.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We'll hear all about it and more.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
On the other side of the break, it's KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Tiffany Hobbs
here with you until seven.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's Saturdays with Tiffany from five to seven, and we
are talking to our friend, friend of the show, friend
of the station, friend of many stations right now, given
all of the legal news floating around, Lou Shapiro, Lou,
nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Hey, great to do, fact do Tiffey. You know you
always have a special place in my heart, so I'll
be here for you when you call.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Lou.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know you always answer the call no matter what,
and I appreciate it, especially since you are the resident
legal expert. As the powerful attorney you are on ever
everything trial related. So let's jump right into it. Thank
you for your time. Let's get into this Sean P.
Diddy Comb's trial. Oh my gosh, how salacious has this
(15:13):
first couple of days been.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Lou, Well, you have to give it up for the prosecution.
They're coming out fighting. They knew it was not going
to be a simple walk in the park case, so
they put on probably their best witness in the whole case.
Uh you know, Ventura. She came in charged up, emotional, serious,
(15:35):
good poise, eight months broke down in the right moments,
eight months pregnant. Yeah, it's just it's not everything you
don't want the defense, Yeah yeah, but yeah, yeah, everything
you don't want. If you're on the defense side, you're
just looking at this witness and you're like, oh no,
this is the this is how we got to start
(15:56):
the case. And then of course there's the video that's
right there to corrop break, you know, the violence, and
it's just so offensive to watch.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It really is it really is what are the specific
charges Sean Combs is actually looking at or dealing with.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Facing right, So it's the idea is that he had
this racketeering enterprise where people in his inner circle would
be involved in sex trafficking, bringing people from out of
state to him to do things against their will. That's
the basic summary of it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Okay, And you know what I've seen what I've been
hearing of the trial because obviously some of the documents
or transcripts have gone public and they're circulating around social
media and the news. What I'm seeing it seems to
be the defensive strategy to almost paint Cassie Ventura the
(16:53):
star witness as someone who was a willing participant in
all of these activities.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
What say you to that?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Well, the best thing going for the defense on her
is what came out today in trial is that she
accepted a twenty million dollar settlement to not say anything.
So I think for a lot of those jurorys they're thinking, wow,
I mean twenty million dollars that most have not seen
even a fraction of that in their lifetime, So some
(17:22):
of them might be a little resentful. They're like, here's
someone that was with him for ten years, didn't complain
to anybody, didn't go to law enforcement, collected a twenty
million dollar pay day at the end of it. Does
that seem like someone who's set your victim? You know,
that's one way. The other way they might look at
it is wow. The fact that Diddy was willing to
pay twenty million dollars must mean that there really was
(17:43):
some truth to this and therefore he wanted to bury it.
So it means to be seen how the jury's going
to receive that, but it could go either way.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
And in speaking about what's happening between Sean P. Diddy,
Combs and Cassie, is this a civil trial, a criminal trial.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Are there elements of both? What's going on with that?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So there was a civil case that started first that
really got the criminal case going on. Once the civil
case was filed that had talked about all the abuse
both emotional and physical that was perpetrated on her at
the hands of Ditty, and then other victims followed by
filing their own civil complaints that got the attention of
(18:26):
the US Attorney's office. We then also filed the criminal case.
So the civil case has been stayed, meaning it's been
put on the freezer until the criminal case is handled.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We're talking to attorney Luce Shapiro about the Sean P.
Diddy Combs case. Lou is this trial part of a
larger investigation or sex trafficking ring? Or is this specific
to Shawn Combs and Shawn Combs only.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So it's interesting because right now it's specific to Shawn
Comb's only. I think a lot of people watching this case.
From the beginning, we were expecting other defendants to be
named in his inner circle as co defendants or what's
called co conspirators, and usually that's what the prosecution does
and gets them to flip on the lead person. So
they didn't do that in this case, so it'll be
(19:13):
interesting to see if they're able to get anyone in
his inner circle to back up the fact that this
was some kind of sex trafficking ring that he was running.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And then you know, also in listening to what's come
out of it, there have been lots of celebrity names
thus far talked about in conjunction with this case. Those
names include Mike Michael, Michael Myers, Mike Myers, the actor
Michael B. Jordan, who is experiencing quite a bit of
success right now with his recent movie Ciners. I'm sure
(19:41):
he doesn't want this sort of publicity attached to his name.
Why are these names coming out, Well.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They're coming out because this is somebody Dinny who is
basically in that category of very high profile he A
List celebrities. These are the people that he would mingle with.
So it's hard to say. We haven't heard exact evidence
of this, but if there are other A listeners that
knew him well, would hang out with him, knew about
(20:10):
these things and didn't say anything, that's obviously not going
to reflect well on their reputation in the community. So
it's something that they're worried about. And they hope it
doesn't drag their name to the mud as well, even
though they're not criminally charged along with him.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Okay, and then as Sean P died, he combs is
he actually has he actually pleaded guilty to this? Is
he pleading no contest, not guilty? Where are we standing
with that?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
So he's plugged, not guilty, denying all allegations and enhancements,
and he's going to trial to completely dispute everything. He's innocent,
he didn't do any of this. And his defense lawyer said, look,
if you want to convict him of being a jerk,
being violent, that's one thing, but that's not what he's
(20:54):
on trial for. He's on trial for running a sex
trafficking ring. That is something entirely different and much more egregious. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And that's the other thing I've been seeing as well,
is that people are somewhat conflating, you know, the unique
let's say, things that Sean P didcumbs might like in
the bedroom or other bedrooms with actual crime, criminal activity,
the trafficking, the abuse, the acts against Cassie Ventur and
(21:22):
these other victims, will in considering everything that we've heard
thus far, I know it's really early into the trial,
but you are well versed and you have your ear
to the ground with this.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
What do you predict next? What can we look forward to?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, I think this case is going to turn on
can the prosecution get people in Daed's inner circle, whether
it's it's an assistant, PA, somebody that's going to say yes,
I was ordered to go on Craigslist, find people in
other states, bring them here under the guys or rules
(21:59):
that they were going to do a but in the
end when they got here they were forced to do
bet that's what the case is going to turn on.
And we have to see if those witnesses exist and
if they do, are they willing to take the stand
and testify for the prosecution against Diddy?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You have a wealth of information. I want to keep
you on. Can we talk about the Menindez brothers trial
after the break?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
There's some breaking.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
News right absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
We're talking to Attorney LUs Shapiro about all things trial.
Lots of trials going on right now in the news.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Shan P.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Ditty combs the Menindaz brothers. Maybe we'll sneak in something
else if we have time, but we'll continue this conversation
on the other side of the break Robin.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I think we have a talk back. Can we get
to that talkback really quick?
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
Thank you so much for that. I wasn't aware that
you could do that through Redweek.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
See these platforms just keep on evolving and speaking about
Palm Springs, remember to keep it right here on KFI
AM six forty as we continue with the details as
they emerge out of Palm Springs about that vehicular explosion
outside of the American Reproductive Clinic on Indian Canyon happened
earlier this morning, So we'll continue with updates throughout the evening,
(23:32):
all weekend and certainly into next week. And Michael Monks
will be coming on at seven to keep that conversation
going with details. It's KFI AM six forty Live everywhere.
On the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand talking.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
To attorney lu Shapiro, who is just weighed in on
the Sean P. Diddy Combs racketeering Rico sex trafficking case
and whoa, it is a doozy. Well, well, many years
ago there was another trial that was absolutely a doozy.
It was everywhere, and for some reason it came back up.
(24:08):
I would say that we could point to the Netflix
series because all things considered, the limelight is being once
again shown on the Menindez brothers. And a consequence of that,
or an effect of that, some might say, is that
the Menindez brother's trial was being reassessed, and that reassessment
(24:29):
has resulted in some breaking news just this week.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Lou Shapiro, can you please.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Tell us what the heck is going on with the
Menindez brothers.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Now, yeah, I'll freel.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
This up for you. So what's happening is when the
Menendez brothers were convicted in their second trial, they were
sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. WO that
means they're not going anywhere. That it was done, it
was throw them in jail, and the key is out.
That's it. Only twenty two though, California passed a law
(25:03):
it's called a Youth Offender Act, which basically says that
if somebody was twenty six or younger and they committed
this type of crime, even though they were originally deemed
ineligible for parole, if you can show that they are remorseful, rehabilitated,
and are mitigating circumstances to give them a shot at parole,
then a judge has the power to do that. So
(25:26):
the Menendez brothers, their defense team took advantage of that
law rightfully. So they filed the appropriate emotions, made the
argument in front of the judge, and the judge said, yes,
there is enough here for them to be considered eligible
for parole under this new law that passed in California
a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And now that new law is resulting in their sentences
of life being reduced to fifty years to life, do
I have that right?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
And basically, since they've served over thirty five years for
purposes of parole, they would be eligible given the time
that they have already served to be considered for parole.
When you take into account you get good time credit
as well when you're in custody.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
So they are facing the possibility of release as soon
as when. What has to happen now for the men
Indo's brothers to actually see the light of day.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So on June sixteenth, they are set for a parole
hearing where they will make their pitch as to why
they should be deemed paroled and being released. They have
witnesses that will be testifying declarations that will be follow
on their behalf talking about how they've really changed themselves
and turned their life around the last thirty five years.
One of them even got a college degree. And the
(26:47):
idea is that they probably will be released on parole.
I mean, they check off all the boxes. The only
question is will Governor Newsom get in the way At
the end of it, he's the only one that can
get in the way of them being released if the
parole board says yes, they should be parlled out.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What do you think or which way do you think
Governor Newsom will lean? I know, with his political aspirations,
there's a lot of attention being paid about on what
he will do with this case and the possible precedents
that it could set. What do you think could potentially happen,
and then what would the blowback be either way.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yeah, this is the last thing that I'm going to
new some wants to be dealing with, because, as if
we're following the news lately, he's basically trying to put
on this image that he's more in the middle now,
he's more centered, even though he was very left leaning
of the over as mayor, governor and so forth, He's
a changed man. He's learned from history. So this situation
(27:45):
really puts him in a pickle to decide what to do.
But I think at the end of the day, when
he has to make the decision, if they are if
the pro board recommends a release, he will go along
with it, and he will say that this is not
his decision. This is the decision of the judge in
the Los Angeles Superior Court. This is the decision of
the Parole Board. Both of those entities put in a
(28:07):
lot more time, effort and scoony into this and named
Demi Menanda's brothers eligible for release. Far be it from him,
Governor Newsom, to get in the way of what they
are saying. That's what he will hang their hat on.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I believe, you know, the attorney for the Menindez brothers,
Mark Garrigos, we know him very well. His name has
been around for many decades. At this point, he made
a statement saying that the Menindez brother's case and these
developments are inspiring other inmates to potentially do better in
jail so that they too could potentially see a release,
(28:42):
an early release because of the precedents that he feels
this release could set.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
What do you think about that, Well.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
It depends on how many descendants are sitting in custody
that committed this type of crime when they were under
the age of twenty six, right, so they have to
fit into the same box. I know with statistics on that,
but there must be some and I think there is
some merit to that message, right. It sends the message
that if you turn your life around, you rehabilitate, then
(29:14):
there's hope for an early release then you might have had.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And that does speak to what Mark Garago said, specifically
says that we are in the business of rehabilitation. That's
what these sorts of sentences should actually provide the opportunity
for criminals to rehabilitate, to do better, and that's what
he's saying the Menindez brothers have done at nauseum while
incarcerated in the count or in that puts specific jail.
(29:40):
What do you think will happen next? In the court
of public opinion?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
So the court of public opinion is very polarized on
this one because on one side, we just spoke about
the side that looks to rehabilitation, turning one's life around,
redemption if you will. But then there's the other side
that's looking at this saying, hey, if only a Netflix
documentary was made about my loved one sitting incarceration, then
(30:10):
then I also would have a better shot then people,
and people would be protesting during their work hours for
me and bringing attention to them. So I think there's
gonna be resentment to on this. Why them, why not me?
Why not my loved one? So I think we can
expect both sides coming out on this different ways.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Awesome, Lou You are always so informed and so detailed
with your facts, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
What's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Where can people reach out to you, follow you, see
anything that you're doing to keep up with all things
Attorney Louse Shapiro.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Well, thanks, Tiffany, Yeah, I'd always like to readly keep
up on everything. You can follow me on Facebook if
you want. It's a public seupl and can read the viewpoints.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Very Yeah, you're hilarious.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Every day You're garant. It a funny cartoon that will
make you left no matter where you sit on the
political spectrum.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You know, I have a bone because I send you
cartoons and you don't ever post them, and I don't
like that. I feel like my cartoons are falling on
your deaf ears. I need you to post at least
one that I send to you.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
They have to meet a certain threshold. They have to
be current, they gotta be a little They got to
give a little dig. They have to check a few boxes.
But you're getting closer by the submissiontive me, so don't
We'll get there one of these days. No one will
get there.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'm almost there, okay. And where else can people follow
you besides Facebook? Where you are a shrew?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
So if you want to follow me on YouTube, if
you go to lu Shapiro, you'll catch my latest news clips.
Whenever there's a high profile case, I'll usually come out
on it to try to make more sense of it
for the public. That's my goal with legal commentary, to
take difficult, complicated legal contexts and make it accessible so
everybody can enjoy and understand more about the legal process.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that's exactly what you do and what you did tonight, Lou.
Thank you so much for being on with us, and
I can't wait to talk to you the next time.
I'm sure we'll have you back on soon.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Always keep up your sense of humoring wit Tiffany, I'll
cast you later.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
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