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I have to get myself together.
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Definitely had a bit of emotion come out listening to
my mother and my aunt in the last segment, So
please listen to our featured segments on KFIAM six forty
dot com after this show if you missed it, because
it is absolutely worth a listen to. Hear my mom
tells stories of her mother, memories of my childhood and
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give you some more insight and background into who I
am at Kayla laughing certainly, and hear a little snippet
from my aunt, who's a songwriter, a song that she
used to sing to me when I was a little girl,
and a song that my aunt performed with bands all
around southern California. So I'm really proud of them, and
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I was really proud to have that moment to share
that moment with all of you. Now on to something
that we are not yet proud of. There's definitely mixed
emotion around this subject. Some are happy and many are concerned.
And the subject for our Deeper Dives segment has to
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do with chat GPT and open AI and the use
of these computer generated programs in education. And it's not
on the side of creating curriculum as I have used
as a teacher. I've used chat GPT one time, and
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you know, chat GPT is that system or program. You
can literally go to Google and google chat GPT and
the website will pop up and you can ask chat
GPT by typing in or using the audio feature to
do something for you, write something, construct something for you.
You can say, write a recipe for chocolate cake and
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chat GPT will spit back to you a recipe for
chocolate cake. You can ask it to write a list
of items you might need for a wedding shower and
it will give you all of that information. As you
can see, this could absolutely transition into education and it
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has and lots of schools, lots of educators are dealing
with chat GPT in their classrooms, in their study environments.
One of the things that I did as and have
done as a teacher. Like I said one time was
I asked chat gpt to make curriculum for me, to
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make a lesson for me for some specific topic in history.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Let's just say it was World War One.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And it wasn't for lack of my ability to create
that lesson. It was because I was tired and I
didn't feel like spending the time an hours so to
create a lesson for my students the next day of teacher,
I'm tired two jobs. I'm on the radio and I'm
teaching the youth, and chat GPT listened. It made me
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a full lesson that I then taught the next day
with some tweaks to make it appropriate for my class
and my level. But it was very, very worthwhile, and
it was scary because I could see how I could
become dependent on that technology to create lesson plans for me,
and so I made a vow to myself then that
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I would not use it repeatedly. You know, you hope
to stick to your honored your integrity, and I can't
predict the future. I do not want to become dependent,
and that's what's happening. So in twenty twenty two, with
the release of in AI's chat GPT, AI generated plagiarism
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became a growing cause for concern in academia, and this
is because teachers and school boards across the country were
deciding whether or not or grappling with whether or not
they should take caution or embrace the potential of using
artificial intelligence writing tools. They were concerned one because chat
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GPT and other chatbots can in fact generate writing on any.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Subject anything in the world you want. It can give you.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You want to make a sonnet in the style of Shakespeare,
They'll do it for you. You want a five hundred
word English essay comparing the Great gat Speed to another
form or another theme in writing, it will do it
for you. The most ambiguous topics can be created using
chat GPT and specific phrasing. Well, there's also the excitement
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around it because educators are wondering whether or not there's
a potential of AI to use to be used to
actually enhance the learning environment, and whether or not AI
should be incorporated into classrooms. Back in January of twenty
twenty three, just after open ai launched chat GPT, And
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when I say open Ai, that's a program chat GPT,
these are programs. So when open AI one program launched
another chat GPT. There was a survey twenty twenty three
of one thousand college students that found that nearly ninety
percent of them hear me again. Out of one thousand
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college students in this survey, ninety percent of them had
used chat gp to help with their homework assignments just
in its first year of the program's existence.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That increased over time.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And whether liberal arts universities, ivy leagues, state schools, community programs,
professional schools, chat GPT has found its way into every
facet of education. Raoul, I know we have a talkback.
It's from Cliff from Las Vegas. He has some information
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about chat GPT and some experience with it himself.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey, hey, Tiffany Cliff in Las Vegas. I love the show.
Listen about this chat gept and ailms and the students
using them. I actually did use one when I was
working on my masters, And I'll be honest with you,
I don't know how they're going to get around this
because even the anti cheat stuff that checks this stuff,
it's failed miserably every single time. And you can actually
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tell it to write it just exactly the way you
want it, and it's tough, good luck, good luck.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Indeed, I don't know how we're going to get around it,
how education will be able to mitigate chat GPT. But
when we come back, we'll talk about how schools are
honestly kind of cow towing to the technology and really
deciding that the fight may be bigger than they're able
to handle. And if they can't beat chat GPT, then
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let's join chat GPT. So we'll talk about how educators
are embracing the potential of artificial intelligence in their classroom spaces.
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And more when we come back.
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We're talking about cheating your way through college or high
school or junior high. Well, there's a huge problem in
academia at every single level, and now educators are really
dealing with whether or not they can stop the AI
chat bot chat GPT train before it completely decimates education,
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and or if they should just embrace it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And try and mitigate it in a.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Way that makes it useful, makes it something that they
can actually use in their classrooms. Teachers have tried to
find ways to deal with AI AI proof their assignments,
and one such way is described by Brian Patrick Green.
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He's a tech ethics scholar at Santa Clara University. He
says he immediately stopped assigning essays after he tried chat
GPT for the first time. He says, however, after about
three months in his course called Ethics and Artificial Intelligence,
ironically enough, he decided that he would give a kind
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of low stakes assignment, a reflection, a writing reflection that
would be safe. Of course, nobody would take this short,
easy assignment and a use AI. This was his sort
of test, or analysis, if you will, of his classroom
and where they were. He says that students still did
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use chat GPT. One of the students specifically turned in
the assignment a personal reflection that had robotic language and
awkward phrasing. Those were red flags that Professor Green knew
meant that the reflection was in fact AI generated. Another professor,
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a philosophy professor at the University of Arkansas at Little
Rock caught her students in her Ethics and Technology class
using AI to respond to the prompt briefly introduce yourself
and say what you're hoping to get out of this class.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So students are not just.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Using it to write five hundred word essays or ten
page essays on things that they aren't really fully versed in.
They're even using them to offer up reflections that should
be personal, should be easy, should come from their own
thinking brains. And they're still in fact using AI. And
this is not to suggest that cheating is new. When
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I was at USC, I regularly heard of people who
were plagiarizing and would get caught and get put on
academic probation for cheating. Cheating has been around forever, passing
notes in class, writing the information on your hand, trying
other ways to get the answers within sights so that
you can pass the tests. All of that is age old.
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It's been around for a long time. But now, as
one student has put it, the ceiling has been blown off.
There's another educator. His name is Troy Jollimore. He's from
cal State chicoh He's an ethics professor, and he says, quote,
massive numbers of students are going to emerge from universities
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with degrees and into the workforce who are essentially illiterate.
So the question and the concern is will these students
who are graduating from these universities, graduating from high school
into the real world be functional?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Will they be functionally thinking adults?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And many experts are saying that that critical thinking skill,
that ability to communicate will be vastly compromised. Now. Before
OpenAI released chat GPT in twenty twenty two, there were
issues with cheating and they were largely due to COVID
and the COVID closures. A lot of the students back
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in twenty twenty two at the time had graduated remotely.
They had done school remotely for the previous full years.
They were largely unsupervised. But now that lack of supervision
has changed. People are back in the educational environments and
still the cheating or the plagiarizing is continuing. So teachers
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are saying and educators and professors are saying that what
they're going to start doing is making it so that
plagiarized work via chat GPT or chat GPT generated content
has to be cited, just like with the Grammys. Just
like with the oscars, if open AI and artificial intelligence
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is used in a student's work, it has to be referenced,
it has to be cited. If not, we're going to
see a whole gang of students over the next few years,
potentially not being able to pass their courses. And we're
going to see a vastly different workplace as these students
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emerge from their educational environments.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All due to chat gp T. So this is ongoing.
This is kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's kind of scary because a lot of people are
depending on robots to think for them and they're not
exercising that skill themselves. When we come back, we have
some breaking news. Remember Billy and Tina, the elephants at
the La Zoo, Well, they were supposed to be moved
to a sanctuary where their care would continue at a
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much better place. Well, unfortunately, some backdoor deals have possibly
been made and Billy will be moved to another zoo.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We have Melissa Lerner.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
She's the litigator who will be speaking on the case,
who will be speaking to us about what's going on
with Billy the elephant. On the other side of the breaks,
we're breaking news right here. On Saturdays with Tiffany. Stay
tuned for this. It is big news. It's going to
be everywhere. It's going to be everywhere next week, and
we're going to talk to Melissa Learner when we come back.
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app Saturdays with Tiffany. Happy Mother's Day to all the
moms out there and all the mother figures who are
doing God's work, because it is not an easy job.
Whatever it is you're doing well. There is some breaking news,
some breaking news out of the La Zoo. If you
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have been following this story about Billy and Tina, the
elephants who have been at the La Zoo for quite
some time, then you will be interested in this information.
And if you are unfamiliar with this story, then this
information will undoubtedly peak your interests as well.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There's a huge update. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For the last few weeks, Billy and Tina were said
to be being moved to a sanctuary, and then that changed,
and there's another update about what's going on. We have
on the phone with us Melissa Lerner. She is the
attorney who filed the lawsuit to stop Billy and Tina
the elephant from being moved to Tulsa to the Tulsa,
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Oklahoma Zoo. So Melissa Learners she is going to give
us the information that will update what's going on with
both Billy and Tina the elephants out of the La
Zoo and why they are not where they are supposed
to be. Melissa, welcome to KFI and Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Good evening, Tiffany, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Thank you so much for coming on with such short notice.
But we know that this is extremely breaking and time sensitive,
so can you please tell us what is going on.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Absolutely so we file this lawsuit because our client, as
I'm sure has happened with other members of the public,
was duped by statements made by Denise Verrett, who is
the CEO and director of the zoo and is an
appointed official who serves at Mayor Karen Bass's discretion, that
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Billy and Tina are going to be moved to a
elephant preserve and that this is being done in their
best interest for their health and well being and in fact,
they are simply being moved to another zoo. This preserve
is actually not a sanctuary that will offer these elephants
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the space to rome and the attention and care that
they need to recover from being in a zoo. It's
just another zoo. And we filed this lawsuit immediately and
are going to be going into court early next week
to try to get a temporary restraining order to keep
Billientina where they are until this matter can be considered
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in the city Council with all of the information publicly,
with transparency and that the people can be heard, because
everyone wants Billy and Tina to finally be able to
live out the rest of their lives in peace, with
enough room to move around, and not be forced to
just go to another zoo that has a pretty terrible
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reputation for its care of elephants.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right, and you know, thank you for everything that you're
doing and for filing that stop, because it's unconscionable to
think that people are being duped. That we have been
told as citizens of Los Angeles that these two beloved
animals would be since somewhere where that they would be
cared for, where that their remaining days would be peaceful.
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And you're telling us now, Melissa, Melissa, that this is
not the case that if they do go to the
Tulsa Zoo, that their fates will likely continue to be
what we've seen at the LA Zoo, poor care, as
you said, neglect, even and potentially worse. Why why and
how we were our city officials and everyone connected to
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this case able to kind of pull the wool over
everyone's eyes.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So I think really that actually our city officials are trying.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
To stop this.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So that's good to bend this from being Yeah, so
Council council Member Bloomingfield actually has already filed a pending motion.
He's very adamant about pausing any moves, any plan to
move the elephants to the Tulsa Zoo until the city
Council can hear all of the information and all of
the options available, including what the options are forgetting Billy
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and Tina to a sanctuary. And unfortunately, the La Zoo
has indicated that they are not going to listen to
the you know, our elected officials, and that they've made
this decision. They're confident that they've made the right decision
and they don't feel like they have to answer to anyone.
And that's our concern, is that this decision was made
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in secret, without all of the facts being brought out
to light, and without you know, the process, the democratic
process really really bearing out. I mean, we have elected
officials in the city Council who are looking out for
the interests of our citizens, and we have an a
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you know, a political appointee essentially who runs the La
Zoo and who answers to mayor Baths and and is
going forward with this plan without letting letting this be
a public hearing. And that is that is real concern.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So is the La Zoo. And I imagine others are wondering
this too. Is the zoo a private entity or is
it controlled by the city.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
The zoo is controlled by the city. It is owned
and operated by the city, and it's actually its own
city department.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And since it is part of the Cities Department, as
you're saying, why then can our city officials are mayor
as well just not push BILLI and Tina where they
should go kind of supersede and and and step over
what the zoo officials are saying.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So the zoo officials, particularly Denise Barrett, has made this decision,
and she has sort of avoided accountability, including for you know,
reporting to the city council about deaths of two other
elephants in the La zoo in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four. And the real thing here is that
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I think that we need urgently as concerned citizens to
be reaching out to Mayor Bass and telling her that
this is unacceptable to stop the transfer, because she is
the final authority here and she has the power to
stop this, and we need to have the ability for
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this decision to be made with all of the information
and with careful consideration for how we really should be
treating elephants. They are majestic sensitive, highly intelligent animals. They
have complex social structures, and a zoo, any zoo, is
an inhumane environment for them. The science is very well
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settled on this, and there are sanctuaries out there that
are credited, that are legitimate and that can help to
heal the trauma that these animals have gone through for
years in confinement.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So Melissa, again, please tell our listeners what they can
do starting tonight to hopefully impact the decision of where
Billy and Tina go.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Absolutely, I would encourage everyone who is listening to tell
your friends also to go online. We have there's a
website if the link is bitly so bit dot l
y backslash contact Mayor Bass. There is a form there
for you to fill out, and that is the easiest
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and best way to reach out to to Mayor Karen
Bass and to tell her that this cannot happen, that
this plan needs to be stopped, and that Billy and
Tina deserve more than being shuffled to another zoo. They
deserve to live out the rest of their days roaming
in relative freedom with enough space, you know, for for
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their foods and thriving. So again, that's bit dot l
y backslash contact Mayor Baths And I would urge everyone
to get on tonight as soon as you uh, you know,
listen to the rest of the show and tune off, uh,
to go online and to send that message to to
our mayor.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Absolutely, and I'll make sure that I post that on
my own social media as well, and we'll get that
up as a p bitley b t dot l y
backslash contact Mayor Bass. Let them know Billy and Tina
deserves sanctuary and respite. They do not need to be
moved to yet another zoo. Melissa, thank you so much
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for all the work you're doing with this case, and
I wish you the utmost success.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Thank you so much. Tiffany, have a great evening.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You do the same.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
When we come back, we're going to talk about the
very first case of AI being used in the court
room for a victim impact statement.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What the heck is going on?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We'll talk about it when we come back, and then
we will turn the show over to Michael Monks. It's
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
Saturdays with Tiffany right here, and you can follow me
on Instagram at tif Hobbs on here at tif hobbs
on here, while where I will again post that link
to contact Mayor Bass and stop Billy and Tina from
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being moved to the Tulsa Zoo.
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Saturdays with Tiffany. I'm Tiffany Hobbs for one final segment
and then we will throw it to Michael Monks.
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But before we do, there is a.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Ground breaking story that is making the rounds on social media,
and it's because there is a computer generated image and
this image is animated, it is moving of a person
who is deceased. The person is no longer living, and
this image, this AI generated image was used for the
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very first time ever in a court room to give
their very own victim impact statement. And a victim impact
statement is something that if you are a victim of
a crime and you are in a courtroom facing the
person or people who have perpetrated that crime against you,
you are able to then tell how everything that happened
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made you and makes you feel. But in this case,
the image, the person is no longer here, the victim
is no longer here, and they use the family used
AI to create a complete composite so that the victim
could give their very own impact statement. This is what
it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
This here is a true representation of who I was,
you know, not how the courtroom portrayed me. So I
would like to make my own impact statement.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
This is christ for Pelkey, an AI version. He was
killed in a road rage shooting incident in Chandler, Arizona,
in twenty twenty one. In a recent sentencing hearing his
family brought him back to life by using generative AI
to address his shooter in a victim impact statement. It's
believed to be the first time that AI has been
used to deliver a victim impact statement in court.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
It is a shame we encountered each other that day
in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have
been friends.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Chris's sister and brother in law, who both work in technology,
created this AI version of him with old photos and
video files and a script that his sister, Stacy Wales wrote.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
The only thing that kept entering my head, that I
kept hearing was Chris and what he would say.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
When I first saw the video, I just knew it
would be effective because it captured the embodiment and the
spirit of who Chris was and what he sounded like
and looked like. Was impactful.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
State prosecutors asked for nine and a half years for
manslaughter and sentencing, but the judge eventually gave ten and
a half years. The shooter was sentenced to twelve and
a half years in total for manslaughter and endangerment.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I love that AI, thank you for that. And as
angry as you are, justifiably angry as the family.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Was, I heard the forgiveness.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
I think everybody was impressed and felt the impact and
how powerful it was to hear from Christopher Pelke, from
his voice, from his likeness.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
The family said they found healing through this process, but
they warrant the use of AI in the courtroom should
be approached carefully.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
This was not evidence. The jury never saw this. It
wasn't even made before a verdict came down of guilty.
This is an opinion. The judge was allowed to see
a human that's no longer here for who he was.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know, Oh, Raoul, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, my mind is blown because I heard this
audio and I really didn't understand and it's that wow.
I mean, the Tupac hologram was one thing. This is
all other level.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yes, you know, and I think that the last few
statements were key. This was an opinion. The judge is
the only one who heard it. This was not played
in the courtroom for the jury or for any of
the litigators. But what happens when that is, you know, transcended?
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What happens when you have an AI generated victim who's
no longer here, Who is then or that who that
D don't even know can even tell, like what is this?
If that is used in the courtroom, how then could
that sway a jury?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think that the questions are very open, like open
AI is. It seems that the the potential is endless
and could very well, as these things go, be manipulated
and used in ways that might not necessarily be the
most lawful or ethical. But this is certainly groundbreaking and
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I encourage all of you to go online and google
this story. The victim's name is Christopher Pelky p E
l k e Y. And if you go on and
you just google his name, Christopher Pelkey, you'll see the video.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's not just the audio.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You'll see the video that was used as a from
a compositive multiple pictures and his voice to create this
animated image. It's kind of creepy. I don't know, No,
it's not creepy. Well, he's a little creepy. Michael Monks
and let me tell you about what's coming on on
his big show, Michael Monks tonight on Michael Monk's Reports
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is going to discuss a man who has had it.
He is up to his ears with the team bicycle
gangs that are wreaking havoc all over town. So he
this man has started a website to track them down.
Michael Monks will tell you who that man is and
why he was motivated to start this website. Also, there
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will be some tough conversations about LA's finances happening at
City Hall, and Michael Monks will get into just how
awkward and tense the latest exchange about Billy and Tina
the elephant actually gotten.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
We just talked about Billy and Tina.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So they're discussing and discussing LA's finances at city Hall
in relation to Billy and Tina as well. And did
you know that cussing using curse words bat language actually
can make you feel good when other words won't do.
Michael Monks will tell you just which words make you
feel the best. I have my own favorites. All of
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that's coming up on Michael Monks Reports from seven to
nine tonight on KFI AM sixty four. Happy Mother's Day
to all of you. I wish you the best possible weekend,
healing peace, whatever it is you do I hope you're happy,
and I hope you are surrounded by love in whatever
way you can find it. A thank you to my mom, my, aunt,
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everyone else who's contributed. DDI from Las Vegas thinking of you, girl.
Your talkback really touched us, and I just wish you
well and anyone else who is in your shoes. Thank
you for all that you do, mothers and mother figures.
I'll see you next week right here on Saturdays with Tiffany.
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tells stories of her mother, memories of my childhood and
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give you some more insight and background into who I
am at Kayla laughing certainly, and hear a little snippet
from my aunt, who's a songwriter, a song that she
used to sing to me when I was a little girl,
and a song that my aunt performed with bands all
around southern California. So I'm really proud of them, and
(01:05):
I was really proud to have that moment to share
that moment with all of you. Now on to something
that we are not yet proud of. There's definitely mixed
emotion around this subject. Some are happy and many are concerned.
And the subject for our Deeper Dives segment has to
(01:28):
do with chat GPT and open AI and the use
of these computer generated programs in education. And it's not
on the side of creating curriculum as I have used
as a teacher. I've used chat GPT one time, and
(01:48):
you know, chat GPT is that system or program. You
can literally go to Google and google chat GPT and
the website will pop up and you can ask chat
GPT by typing in or using the audio feature to
do something for you, write something, construct something for you.
You can say, write a recipe for chocolate cake and
(02:13):
chat GPT will spit back to you a recipe for
chocolate cake. You can ask it to write a list
of items you might need for a wedding shower and
it will give you all of that information. As you
can see, this could absolutely transition into education and it
(02:35):
has and lots of schools, lots of educators are dealing
with chat GPT in their classrooms, in their study environments.
One of the things that I did as and have
done as a teacher. Like I said one time was
I asked chat gpt to make curriculum for me, to
(02:55):
make a lesson for me for some specific topic in history.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Let's just say it was World War One.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And it wasn't for lack of my ability to create
that lesson. It was because I was tired and I
didn't feel like spending the time an hours so to
create a lesson for my students the next day of teacher,
I'm tired two jobs. I'm on the radio and I'm
teaching the youth, and chat GPT listened. It made me
(03:23):
a full lesson that I then taught the next day
with some tweaks to make it appropriate for my class
and my level. But it was very, very worthwhile, and
it was scary because I could see how I could
become dependent on that technology to create lesson plans for me,
and so I made a vow to myself then that
(03:43):
I would not use it repeatedly. You know, you hope
to stick to your honored your integrity, and I can't
predict the future. I do not want to become dependent,
and that's what's happening. So in twenty twenty two, with
the release of in AI's chat GPT, AI generated plagiarism
(04:05):
became a growing cause for concern in academia, and this
is because teachers and school boards across the country were
deciding whether or not or grappling with whether or not
they should take caution or embrace the potential of using
artificial intelligence writing tools. They were concerned one because chat
(04:29):
GPT and other chatbots can in fact generate writing on any.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Subject anything in the world you want. It can give you.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You want to make a sonnet in the style of Shakespeare,
They'll do it for you. You want a five hundred
word English essay comparing the Great gat Speed to another
form or another theme in writing, it will do it
for you. The most ambiguous topics can be created using
chat GPT and specific phrasing. Well, there's also the excitement
(05:05):
around it because educators are wondering whether or not there's
a potential of AI to use to be used to
actually enhance the learning environment, and whether or not AI
should be incorporated into classrooms. Back in January of twenty
twenty three, just after open ai launched chat GPT, And
(05:29):
when I say open Ai, that's a program chat GPT,
these are programs. So when open AI one program launched
another chat GPT. There was a survey twenty twenty three
of one thousand college students that found that nearly ninety
percent of them hear me again. Out of one thousand
(05:52):
college students in this survey, ninety percent of them had
used chat gp to help with their homework assignments just
in its first year of the program's existence.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
That increased over time.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And whether liberal arts universities, ivy leagues, state schools, community programs,
professional schools, chat GPT has found its way into every
facet of education. Raoul, I know we have a talkback.
It's from Cliff from Las Vegas. He has some information
(06:36):
about chat GPT and some experience with it himself.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey, hey, Tiffany Cliff in Las Vegas. I love the show.
Listen about this chat gept and ailms and the students
using them. I actually did use one when I was
working on my masters, And I'll be honest with you,
I don't know how they're going to get around this
because even the anti cheat stuff that checks this stuff,
it's failed miserably every single time. And you can actually
(07:01):
tell it to write it just exactly the way you
want it, and it's tough, good luck, good luck.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Indeed, I don't know how we're going to get around it,
how education will be able to mitigate chat GPT. But
when we come back, we'll talk about how schools are
honestly kind of cow towing to the technology and really
deciding that the fight may be bigger than they're able
to handle. And if they can't beat chat GPT, then
(07:30):
let's join chat GPT. So we'll talk about how educators
are embracing the potential of artificial intelligence in their classroom spaces.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And more when we come back.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
On the other side of the break, It's Saturdays with
Tiffany ONFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
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Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's Saturday with Tiffany, and.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
We're talking about cheating your way through college or high
school or junior high. Well, there's a huge problem in
academia at every single level, and now educators are really
dealing with whether or not they can stop the AI
chat bot chat GPT train before it completely decimates education,
(08:30):
and or if they should just embrace it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And try and mitigate it in a.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Way that makes it useful, makes it something that they
can actually use in their classrooms. Teachers have tried to
find ways to deal with AI AI proof their assignments,
and one such way is described by Brian Patrick Green.
(08:58):
He's a tech ethics scholar at Santa Clara University. He
says he immediately stopped assigning essays after he tried chat
GPT for the first time. He says, however, after about
three months in his course called Ethics and Artificial Intelligence,
ironically enough, he decided that he would give a kind
(09:21):
of low stakes assignment, a reflection, a writing reflection that
would be safe. Of course, nobody would take this short,
easy assignment and a use AI. This was his sort
of test, or analysis, if you will, of his classroom
and where they were. He says that students still did
(09:42):
use chat GPT. One of the students specifically turned in
the assignment a personal reflection that had robotic language and
awkward phrasing. Those were red flags that Professor Green knew
meant that the reflection was in fact AI generated. Another professor,
(10:05):
a philosophy professor at the University of Arkansas at Little
Rock caught her students in her Ethics and Technology class
using AI to respond to the prompt briefly introduce yourself
and say what you're hoping to get out of this class.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So students are not just.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Using it to write five hundred word essays or ten
page essays on things that they aren't really fully versed in.
They're even using them to offer up reflections that should
be personal, should be easy, should come from their own
thinking brains. And they're still in fact using AI. And
this is not to suggest that cheating is new. When
(10:48):
I was at USC, I regularly heard of people who
were plagiarizing and would get caught and get put on
academic probation for cheating. Cheating has been around forever, passing
notes in class, writing the information on your hand, trying
other ways to get the answers within sights so that
you can pass the tests. All of that is age old.
(11:11):
It's been around for a long time. But now, as
one student has put it, the ceiling has been blown off.
There's another educator. His name is Troy Jollimore. He's from
cal State chicoh He's an ethics professor, and he says, quote,
massive numbers of students are going to emerge from universities
(11:33):
with degrees and into the workforce who are essentially illiterate.
So the question and the concern is will these students
who are graduating from these universities, graduating from high school
into the real world be functional?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Will they be functionally thinking adults?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And many experts are saying that that critical thinking skill,
that ability to communicate will be vastly compromised. Now. Before
OpenAI released chat GPT in twenty twenty two, there were
issues with cheating and they were largely due to COVID
and the COVID closures. A lot of the students back
(12:17):
in twenty twenty two at the time had graduated remotely.
They had done school remotely for the previous full years.
They were largely unsupervised. But now that lack of supervision
has changed. People are back in the educational environments and
still the cheating or the plagiarizing is continuing. So teachers
(12:42):
are saying and educators and professors are saying that what
they're going to start doing is making it so that
plagiarized work via chat GPT or chat GPT generated content
has to be cited, just like with the Grammys. Just
like with the oscars, if open AI and artificial intelligence
(13:06):
is used in a student's work, it has to be referenced,
it has to be cited. If not, we're going to
see a whole gang of students over the next few years,
potentially not being able to pass their courses. And we're
going to see a vastly different workplace as these students
(13:27):
emerge from their educational environments.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All due to chat gp T. So this is ongoing.
This is kind of scary.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's kind of scary because a lot of people are
depending on robots to think for them and they're not
exercising that skill themselves. When we come back, we have
some breaking news. Remember Billy and Tina, the elephants at
the La Zoo, Well, they were supposed to be moved
to a sanctuary where their care would continue at a
(13:58):
much better place. Well, unfortunately, some backdoor deals have possibly
been made and Billy will be moved to another zoo.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We have Melissa Lerner.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
She's the litigator who will be speaking on the case,
who will be speaking to us about what's going on
with Billy the elephant. On the other side of the breaks,
we're breaking news right here. On Saturdays with Tiffany. Stay
tuned for this. It is big news. It's going to
be everywhere. It's going to be everywhere next week, and
we're going to talk to Melissa Learner when we come back.
(14:32):
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Speaker 2 (14:40):
If I AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app Saturdays with Tiffany. Happy Mother's Day to all the
moms out there and all the mother figures who are
doing God's work, because it is not an easy job.
Whatever it is you're doing well. There is some breaking news,
some breaking news out of the La Zoo. If you
(15:03):
have been following this story about Billy and Tina, the
elephants who have been at the La Zoo for quite
some time, then you will be interested in this information.
And if you are unfamiliar with this story, then this
information will undoubtedly peak your interests as well.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
There's a huge update. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For the last few weeks, Billy and Tina were said
to be being moved to a sanctuary, and then that changed,
and there's another update about what's going on. We have
on the phone with us Melissa Lerner. She is the
attorney who filed the lawsuit to stop Billy and Tina
the elephant from being moved to Tulsa to the Tulsa,
(15:48):
Oklahoma Zoo. So Melissa Learners she is going to give
us the information that will update what's going on with
both Billy and Tina the elephants out of the La
Zoo and why they are not where they are supposed
to be. Melissa, welcome to KFI and Saturdays with Tiffany.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Good evening, Tiffany, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Thank you so much for coming on with such short notice.
But we know that this is extremely breaking and time sensitive,
so can you please tell us what is going on.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Absolutely so we file this lawsuit because our client, as
I'm sure has happened with other members of the public,
was duped by statements made by Denise Verrett, who is
the CEO and director of the zoo and is an
appointed official who serves at Mayor Karen Bass's discretion, that
(16:41):
Billy and Tina are going to be moved to a
elephant preserve and that this is being done in their
best interest for their health and well being and in fact,
they are simply being moved to another zoo. This preserve
is actually not a sanctuary that will offer these elephants
(17:02):
the space to rome and the attention and care that
they need to recover from being in a zoo. It's
just another zoo. And we filed this lawsuit immediately and
are going to be going into court early next week
to try to get a temporary restraining order to keep
Billientina where they are until this matter can be considered
(17:25):
in the city Council with all of the information publicly,
with transparency and that the people can be heard, because
everyone wants Billy and Tina to finally be able to
live out the rest of their lives in peace, with
enough room to move around, and not be forced to
just go to another zoo that has a pretty terrible
(17:46):
reputation for its care of elephants.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right, and you know, thank you for everything that you're
doing and for filing that stop, because it's unconscionable to
think that people are being duped. That we have been
told as citizens of Los Angeles that these two beloved
animals would be since somewhere where that they would be
cared for, where that their remaining days would be peaceful.
(18:14):
And you're telling us now, Melissa, Melissa, that this is
not the case that if they do go to the
Tulsa Zoo, that their fates will likely continue to be
what we've seen at the LA Zoo, poor care, as
you said, neglect, even and potentially worse. Why why and
how we were our city officials and everyone connected to
(18:36):
this case able to kind of pull the wool over
everyone's eyes.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So I think really that actually our city officials are trying.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
To stop this.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So that's good to bend this from being Yeah, so
Council council Member Bloomingfield actually has already filed a pending motion.
He's very adamant about pausing any moves, any plan to
move the elephants to the Tulsa Zoo until the city
Council can hear all of the information and all of
the options available, including what the options are forgetting Billy
(19:10):
and Tina to a sanctuary. And unfortunately, the La Zoo
has indicated that they are not going to listen to
the you know, our elected officials, and that they've made
this decision. They're confident that they've made the right decision
and they don't feel like they have to answer to anyone.
And that's our concern, is that this decision was made
(19:30):
in secret, without all of the facts being brought out
to light, and without you know, the process, the democratic
process really really bearing out. I mean, we have elected
officials in the city Council who are looking out for
the interests of our citizens, and we have an a
(19:53):
you know, a political appointee essentially who runs the La
Zoo and who answers to mayor Baths and and is
going forward with this plan without letting letting this be
a public hearing. And that is that is real concern.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So is the La Zoo. And I imagine others are wondering
this too. Is the zoo a private entity or is
it controlled by the city.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
The zoo is controlled by the city. It is owned
and operated by the city, and it's actually its own
city department.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And since it is part of the Cities Department, as
you're saying, why then can our city officials are mayor
as well just not push BILLI and Tina where they
should go kind of supersede and and and step over
what the zoo officials are saying.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So the zoo officials, particularly Denise Barrett, has made this decision,
and she has sort of avoided accountability, including for you know,
reporting to the city council about deaths of two other
elephants in the La zoo in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four. And the real thing here is that
(21:07):
I think that we need urgently as concerned citizens to
be reaching out to Mayor Bass and telling her that
this is unacceptable to stop the transfer, because she is
the final authority here and she has the power to
stop this, and we need to have the ability for
(21:30):
this decision to be made with all of the information
and with careful consideration for how we really should be
treating elephants. They are majestic sensitive, highly intelligent animals. They
have complex social structures, and a zoo, any zoo, is
an inhumane environment for them. The science is very well
(21:51):
settled on this, and there are sanctuaries out there that
are credited, that are legitimate and that can help to
heal the trauma that these animals have gone through for
years in confinement.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So Melissa, again, please tell our listeners what they can
do starting tonight to hopefully impact the decision of where
Billy and Tina go.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Absolutely, I would encourage everyone who is listening to tell
your friends also to go online. We have there's a
website if the link is bitly so bit dot l
y backslash contact Mayor Bass. There is a form there
for you to fill out, and that is the easiest
(22:39):
and best way to reach out to to Mayor Karen
Bass and to tell her that this cannot happen, that
this plan needs to be stopped, and that Billy and
Tina deserve more than being shuffled to another zoo. They
deserve to live out the rest of their days roaming
in relative freedom with enough space, you know, for for
(23:00):
their foods and thriving. So again, that's bit dot l
y backslash contact Mayor Baths And I would urge everyone
to get on tonight as soon as you uh, you know,
listen to the rest of the show and tune off, uh,
to go online and to send that message to to
our mayor.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Absolutely, and I'll make sure that I post that on
my own social media as well, and we'll get that
up as a p bitley b t dot l y
backslash contact Mayor Bass. Let them know Billy and Tina
deserves sanctuary and respite. They do not need to be
moved to yet another zoo. Melissa, thank you so much
(23:40):
for all the work you're doing with this case, and
I wish you the utmost success.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Thank you so much. Tiffany, have a great evening.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You do the same.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
When we come back, we're going to talk about the
very first case of AI being used in the court
room for a victim impact statement.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What the heck is going on?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We'll talk about it when we come back, and then
we will turn the show over to Michael Monks. It's
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
Saturdays with Tiffany right here, and you can follow me
on Instagram at tif Hobbs on here at tif hobbs
on here, while where I will again post that link
to contact Mayor Bass and stop Billy and Tina from
(24:22):
being moved to the Tulsa Zoo.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
Saturdays with Tiffany. I'm Tiffany Hobbs for one final segment
and then we will throw it to Michael Monks.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But before we do, there is a.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Ground breaking story that is making the rounds on social media,
and it's because there is a computer generated image and
this image is animated, it is moving of a person
who is deceased. The person is no longer living, and
this image, this AI generated image was used for the
(25:05):
very first time ever in a court room to give
their very own victim impact statement. And a victim impact
statement is something that if you are a victim of
a crime and you are in a courtroom facing the
person or people who have perpetrated that crime against you,
you are able to then tell how everything that happened
(25:28):
made you and makes you feel. But in this case,
the image, the person is no longer here, the victim
is no longer here, and they use the family used
AI to create a complete composite so that the victim
could give their very own impact statement. This is what
it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
This here is a true representation of who I was,
you know, not how the courtroom portrayed me. So I
would like to make my own impact statement.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
This is christ for Pelkey, an AI version. He was
killed in a road rage shooting incident in Chandler, Arizona,
in twenty twenty one. In a recent sentencing hearing his
family brought him back to life by using generative AI
to address his shooter in a victim impact statement. It's
believed to be the first time that AI has been
used to deliver a victim impact statement in court.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
It is a shame we encountered each other that day
in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have
been friends.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Chris's sister and brother in law, who both work in technology,
created this AI version of him with old photos and
video files and a script that his sister, Stacy Wales wrote.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
The only thing that kept entering my head, that I
kept hearing was Chris and what he would say.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
When I first saw the video, I just knew it
would be effective because it captured the embodiment and the
spirit of who Chris was and what he sounded like
and looked like. Was impactful.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
State prosecutors asked for nine and a half years for
manslaughter and sentencing, but the judge eventually gave ten and
a half years. The shooter was sentenced to twelve and
a half years in total for manslaughter and endangerment.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I love that AI, thank you for that. And as
angry as you are, justifiably angry as the family.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Was, I heard the forgiveness.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
I think everybody was impressed and felt the impact and
how powerful it was to hear from Christopher Pelke, from
his voice, from his likeness.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
The family said they found healing through this process, but
they warrant the use of AI in the courtroom should
be approached carefully.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
This was not evidence. The jury never saw this. It
wasn't even made before a verdict came down of guilty.
This is an opinion. The judge was allowed to see
a human that's no longer here for who he was.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know, Oh, Raoul, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, my mind is blown because I heard this
audio and I really didn't understand and it's that wow.
I mean, the Tupac hologram was one thing. This is
all other level.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yes, you know, and I think that the last few
statements were key. This was an opinion. The judge is
the only one who heard it. This was not played
in the courtroom for the jury or for any of
the litigators. But what happens when that is, you know, transcended?
(28:37):
What happens when you have an AI generated victim who's
no longer here, Who is then or that who that
D don't even know can even tell, like what is this?
If that is used in the courtroom, how then could
that sway a jury?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I think that the questions are very open, like open
AI is. It seems that the the potential is endless
and could very well, as these things go, be manipulated
and used in ways that might not necessarily be the
most lawful or ethical. But this is certainly groundbreaking and
(29:15):
I encourage all of you to go online and google
this story. The victim's name is Christopher Pelky p E
l k e Y. And if you go on and
you just google his name, Christopher Pelkey, you'll see the video.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's not just the audio.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
You'll see the video that was used as a from
a compositive multiple pictures and his voice to create this
animated image. It's kind of creepy. I don't know, No,
it's not creepy. Well, he's a little creepy. Michael Monks
and let me tell you about what's coming on on
his big show, Michael Monks tonight on Michael Monk's Reports
(29:53):
is going to discuss a man who has had it.
He is up to his ears with the team bicycle
gangs that are wreaking havoc all over town. So he
this man has started a website to track them down.
Michael Monks will tell you who that man is and
why he was motivated to start this website. Also, there
(30:14):
will be some tough conversations about LA's finances happening at
City Hall, and Michael Monks will get into just how
awkward and tense the latest exchange about Billy and Tina
the elephant actually gotten.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
We just talked about Billy and Tina.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So they're discussing and discussing LA's finances at city Hall
in relation to Billy and Tina as well. And did
you know that cussing using curse words bat language actually
can make you feel good when other words won't do.
Michael Monks will tell you just which words make you
feel the best. I have my own favorites. All of
(30:54):
that's coming up on Michael Monks Reports from seven to
nine tonight on KFI AM sixty four. Happy Mother's Day
to all of you. I wish you the best possible weekend,
healing peace, whatever it is you do I hope you're happy,
and I hope you are surrounded by love in whatever
way you can find it. A thank you to my mom, my, aunt,
(31:19):
everyone else who's contributed. DDI from Las Vegas thinking of you, girl.
Your talkback really touched us, and I just wish you
well and anyone else who is in your shoes. Thank
you for all that you do, mothers and mother figures.
I'll see you next week right here on Saturdays with Tiffany.
Have a great weekend. KFI AM six forty live everywhere
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