July 29, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the Weekend Box Office with a ‘spoiler-free’ review of ‘Fantastic Four: First Steps’ AND Tony Sorrentino’s recap of San Diego Comic-Con 2025…PLUS – The fellas continue to debunk the myth of ‘Mankeeping’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're live everywhere on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and the iHeartRadio app.
And I gotta say, it's been a while since I really, really,
really really enjoyed a Marvel movie. I mean in the
way that I did many years ago, and if you
know the phases, like since maybe Phase three or four
or like Phase six. Now, Marvel's had good movies, but
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they haven't had great movies. Saw Fantastic four twice since
I last talked to you. It's a great movie. It's
not a perfect movie. It's a great movie. It is
reminiscent of Marvel when it was at its best, when
you had the first Iron Man. It was a way
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of storytelling which was funny, but it wasn't silly. It
wasn't like they were going for jokes just for jokes.
It happened in the natural course of whatever was happening.
The tone was the right tone. It was a world
ending event. I need you to treat it like that.
I didn't need you to have the main character trying
to go save squirrels like they did in Superman. This
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movie fantastic four first steps. Obviously it was the number
one movie, but I suspect it's going to have some
real legs and it sets up the future Marvel movies
in a great way. I would love to see it
again to look at all the Easter eggs. Vanessa Kirby
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fantastic performance. Everything in the movie turns on her actions.
Joseph Quinn, who played Human Torch, fine performance. Pedro Pascal.
I didn't really believe that he could be read Richards
when he was first cast. I was very skeptical, and
there's some things that I think he could have done better,
but I was pleased overall with his performance. I just
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don't have a whole lot bad to say about this movie.
Tuala may disagree. I didn't get to hear Mark Ronner
and his runner reports, so what. I'm sorry you don't
listen when you're not here. I'm sorry, who are you?
That hurts? I have feelings. What was that manscaping stuff
you were talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Whatever it is, I need some of that now.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I loved it probably as much as you did, and
I thought they struck exactly the right tone. They finally
got Galactus right, which was a big sticking point for
me to get it more wrong. Nothing that one where
he was like a stupid space cloud. They just they
did everything right. Every doubt that I had about it
wound up being nothing. Even the female silver Surfer, which
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I didn't want or care about, didn't ruin anything.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Lots of fun, but it was I don't want to
give it away for those who haven't seen it. It
was explained and it was essential to the overarching theme
of family and motherhood.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's all I'll say. That's all i'll say.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'll tell you I would rather listen to them go
on about family in the Fantastic four movie, the way
they did it so well, then in a million of
those awful fast and furious movies. Okay, relax on your
fast and furious critiques.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Those aren't even movies, they're just stimulus.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now, Fantastic Four was a proper movie with a really
well thought through story, and I like it a lot. Yeah,
I think I've seen it twice now, and for me
going into it, it is once again proof of something
I continues to say, and that is when the MCU
gets a hold of characters, they get it right. This
is not the first bite at the Fantastic for Apple.
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There were two done by Tim's story. One that shall
not be mentioned, although I have to for this moment
by Josh Trank, which was the worst thing to ever
happen to cinema, and this.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Time it's not an overstatement either.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
No, going into it, I knew for a fact that
this movie was going to be pitch perfect because of
every they were showing us. They were once again giving
us a world that we have not seen. They were
creating a world that the Fantastic Four could thrive, and
they made it make sense. From beginning to end. All
of the performances were top notch. All the performances were
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character accurate. It was shocking to me how Reid Richards
Pedro Pascal was. I mean his awkwardness and uneasiness and
all that that went into it. But also there is
a slight, a slight bit of sinister to his character
that not many picked up on. That when you read
the comics, read Richards is one of the worst things
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to happen. It comes because he just the way his
brain works. It's wrong for the world. And I just
love how they had slight little nods the emotion that
they gave Ben Grimm and how he carried the weight
of what happened to him but never let it show
and always held the team together.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I mean everything about this. I thought Joseph Quinn.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I had my worries about him as Johnny still Arm
only because I didn't think you would be able to
make the transition from the series the Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I was like, Oh, is he gonna be able to
do it?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I thought he was great, and I love how they
did not make Johnny storm and ask like he has
been in most other interpretations. I thought the way they
meet him, I was like, this is perfect, This is
so good. As a comic book fan, my wildest dreams
came to life on that screen and it was just
it was utter magic.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So we all.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Agree, is that what we're saying? And well, Tony seems
to be in some distress here. I think this was
when I mentioned the chick silver surfer. That's why I
won't see it female server surfer. I won't go now,
don't let.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That get at least at least see this.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Look.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's common accurate pages in a what if book?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Come no no, no, no, no, no no, Tony. And when
you see this when you see this story, it actually
makes sense. And I'm giving you from from the die
hard collector of conms U see my garage to say, yeah,
T T understands he's got a comic, a garage full
of comics.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Of all things to change.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Man, it doesn't ruin it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Let's not forget. This is not a spoiler. We know
that it doesn't take place on Earth six one six.
That's still the first one they show us that one.
I promise you, and it ain't the last.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I know. I promise you to tea. I promise you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Like we literally had on our nerd Rama podcast, we
have a member of Ryan McBain who literally he went
into it thinking he was going to have to set
the theater on fire. When when the female surfers h
hit the screen came out like you know what. I
was okay with it because I understand why now and
it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It wasn't a gender swap.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's a different character, different story, and it's relevant to
this story.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It wasn't like they had to make a reach for it. Also,
the way they depicted or surfing is really cool. Yeah,
oh yeah, it'd be really cool. Everything that they did
you're like, damn, you got it right. And it also
makes you excited to see when they go on and
give us norn Rad.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It was tawny too late though.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
When you know that, I bet you would get a
whole norn Rad movie, solo movies, all right, that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Solo book series. Come on. I think you haven't seen
the movie.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
If they would have used norm Rad in this particular
way and close the story in the way they did
in this movie, you would have been angry.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, you would have walked out there like blank blank
blank blank blank shrink.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, yeah, sure.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I just it's one of those things for me that
doesn't what it was like sacred like that one too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They can't. They just can't help themselves. I feel like
some time.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We're going to carry this over to the next seven
because we got to talk about Comic Con and what
happened this weekend, and it also ties into all things Marvel.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Kay I mis from O'Kelly here.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We're live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And I've been getting your message calling me a nit anderthal,
saying them, you know, not progressive enough, small p as
far as male and female relationships. Guilty at charge, guiltiest charge.
I guess I'm a trad husband, so let me just
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go ahead and piss you off even more. I think
the greatest piece of advice ever said on TV was
set by James Evans Senior on Good Times. And if
you're wondering what I really think about this whole man
keeping thing, how women are supposed to be the caretakers
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of our emotions, I'm just gonna let James Evans speak
on my behalf.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, all right, everyone ready, all right, here we go.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
When wild Belona to one of those meetings where women
talk about their problems, you know, all that silly talk
about trying to better themselves, one.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Of them women's groups, Floorda, I'm surprised that you're wasting
your time at the crazy.
Speaker 10 (09:09):
Ladies meeting like that.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
You look at you sitting here bumping your gums when
you ought to be in there making dinner.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
James, you asked me to sit down. I think you
said he now y, there's.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
One thing I ain't got no plasce with us women
trying to push in and take over a man's job.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
James, that is.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Not what women are after. Tell me, flord I see
it every day. They're taking the food right out of
our mouth.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
I think you said enough. Hey, woman's wrong with you?
You don't tell me when to talk?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Cheers.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Send the one damn meeting right away. You flying in
my face, Jeames.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
That's not what it's all about.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
I'm gonna tell you've been driving everybody crazy running around here.
Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you
something Uncle Ed used to saying. Maybe he was right.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
There's only two places a woman belonged to, Jeames, don't
say it.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Get in the bedroom, Florida gets in in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Are you old man? Yeticulous? That's why I said all
you hate mail. I don't give the.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Comic con. You went to Comic Con. I did what
was some of the highs and lows?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It was.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
It was packed this year, But I think it's the
floor is packed because I think this was just less
compelling stuff in hall h you know, like the big
panel things. So I think just everyone was just it
was shoulder and shoulder in there all the days as
always were they camping out this.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Year there was there was kept it which didn't seem
as much.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
You know, one thing, one really cool thing I did
because you know, I'm you know of my age. You know,
remember the cartoon g I Joe of course, Okay, remember
there was a there was like one episode where they
the bad guys did like a fake band.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Didn't go and see this.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's cost of the show, don't They faced the cameras.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Everyone can see your shirt.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Cold Slither is a made up band that they created,
Joe that's made up of Zartan and the Dreadnoughts. Yes,
and they've been pumping up this whole they've been doing.
They made a real album, they made a serial.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I have it. It's good. It's actually a sufficiently metal album.
Oh my god. They did a whole.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Set and they did that Brick by Brick, which is
like a heavy metal punk venue too, is what they did.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's that's crappy.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
The funniest thing was during for the encore they saw
they started playing Jem the cartoon gem really and then
the girl came out and started singing the theme song
and it's like, oh, that was the original singer, the
original voice actress Jim and the hologram. They had her
come out and sheet and they played with her and
they played a jump song and the.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mind is blown. It was great. I got goose. It
was a fun night.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Hey, it was the most comic con thing I've ever
done in all my years. Did you get to see
any of the footage of acme Up? I saw the
that leaked online. I saw that a little bit. It
looks it's been shelved for a while, that movie, right, Yes,
it was actually not going to come out at all.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It was one of the films that when they eighty
six the Batgirl film, they aged six that one as well.
A whole bunch of films got cut. And then the
fight for will Forte. He fought Ford, fought for it,
fought for it, and then the further just got around
and it's like, the idea is genius. It is one
of the most genius ideas I've seen the company come
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up with an older product.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't know why they were trying to shelve it
because from what I read, it was about fifty million
dollars budget, which was modest yep, and I thought that
would have easily made its money back. It had some
real talent connected to it, Eric Balzilla, who's been on
the show YEP, the star of it is starting, and
he and I had talked a couple times offline. It's
like he didn't understand why Warner Brothers wouldn't release it,
(12:49):
And it's probably because of all the publicity about it
being shelved. Is going to make far more money now
because it's worked now as a promotional campaign.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
It works for Deadpool, right right, that when that footage
leaked and finally everyone wanted to see that movie.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That think is kind of the same thing. I mean,
think about it.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You have Coyote who for years we have watched Coyote
by all these Acme products to catch road Runner, only
for those products to just blow up in his face
and everything goes awry. This is a film about Coyote
sewing Acme for all of his wrongdoing.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Genius. Yeah, it was the natural evolution of all that is.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Like, he's he spent I don't know, untold amounts of
money on this one company. Why he's stuck with them,
I don't know, but he did and now delivered to
the desert, right right. He just now he wants, you know,
some conversation.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yes, I like to me, I'm like, when you look
at at your old problem, I'm like to me, this
is like Hollywood, when you look at old eyps and
you think about just redoing something, do it like this.
Give us a new look, give us something that we
can look and say, Aha, that's genius. Not we're gonna
do total recall and it'd just be a different movie.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
The hell? Anything else from Comic Con?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Did you get to see George Lucaspiants That was Sunday?
That was he did the panel on Sunday last night. Yeah,
I watched it too.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
The thing that people should know is that you can
now see almost every single panel from Comic Con on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, before they get taken down. Yeah, but it didn't
used to be that way. So that was that was
more function of the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
They made it available at that point, and then they
moved away from it because they still want you to
be there in person.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But yes, yeah, you don't have to endure the assorted
aromas of hall h And and the waiting troum looks interesting?
Oh yeah, I want to love it. I loved the
first Trum movie, the original Trum movie. The second one
is good enough.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But what they had they had a booth this year
with just the light cycle to they take a picture
on line was too long, I'm not waiting line. But
they had another line because they were doing a nine
inch nails like custom die.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Cut because they did the soundtrack.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Yeah nice, you know, and it was a custom kite
like die cut album.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And it's like, do I wait in line for nah, No,
I'm not waiting for it, but that the lines man line.
But but I want to be hopeful for that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I really, really really do for Tron ares Yeah, yeah,
I'm a huge Tron fan, and unlike you, I actually
love the second one. The soundtrack finally, and finally the
sound design technology and CGI caught up to what Tron
was an envision to be originally.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
And we're hitting AI now, which is exactly in Tron's wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Absolutely, so this it can be really good and you
bring it back.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Jeff Bridges, I mean so that the dude now, yeah
he is, he's still a bid. He was in the
first movie. He was great.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I just you know, he was still flint, you know,
and just all of that, all of that. I loved
that first movie. What was the first movie eighty four,
eighty eighty two. Okay, yeah, the.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Light cycles, that first one still they still can't make
them look as fast as that original one.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
They looked they looked so fast, but it was literally
a computer game. And now you're bringing them into the
real world. Uh see the real world implications? Or I
love it, absolutely love it. I want to love it.
I'm watching the mo town chat and some of you
are angry at me about the clip I played, and uh.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Really yeah yeah they found that offensive.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah yeah, someone who said I think it was Cynthia
who said, Mo, you're better than that. Actually I'm not
Cynthia Melcour said boom, mo you're better than that. Oh really, no, Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
He's not one of those.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Meetings that women talk about their problems, you know, all
that silly talk about trying to better themselves.
Speaker 10 (16:51):
One of the women's groups PROD.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
I'm surprised that you're wasting your time at a crazy
ladies meeting like that. Look at you sitting here bumping
your gums when you ought to be in there making dinner.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
James, you asked me to sit down, I think you said.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
He Now, well, there's one thing I ain't got no
places with us women trying to push in and take
over a man's job.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
James, that is not what women are after, tell me,
flord I see it every day. They're taking the food
right out of my mouth. I think you said enough.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Hey, woman's wrong with you? You don't tell me when to talk.
She don't been the one damn meeting right when you're
flying in my face.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
Jesus, that's not what it's all accounts. I'm gonna tell
you've been driving everybody crazy running around here.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you
something Uncle Ed used to saying. Maybe he was right.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
There's only two places a woman belonged to. Jeames, don't
say it.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Get you in the bedroom, far get in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I am not better than that. You in a place
with Andrew Dice Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Next, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Can't find mister m'kelly here.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We're live everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app,
and the folks in the chat are mad at me
for playing that Good Times clip, not once, but twice.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's just can't mo. I thought you were better than that.
Keep trying to tell you I'm not.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And if you don't want me to play the good
times clip anymore, okay, I won't.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well what about Archie bunker.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Edge and Irene Lorenzo thinking that she's going to get
that job.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
Over me with all that gray heroes? Oh, she just
might get the job bought.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
You know, nowadays the government is pressuring companies into hire
and more women in executive positions.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I know, I know. It's a crime against nation. Women
was created with two things, making meals and babies. There
you go again with the nineteenth century thinking of you, Well,
that's true. Look at your cave women. Why do you
think your cave women was created with short legs and
fat butts?
Speaker 10 (19:01):
I don't know, watch, but I'm sure you got a
good answer.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
So they couldn't run fast, so the men could catch
him and force them to make the meals in the baby. Well,
warrant there any cave women with long legs and skinny
butts that could run faster than the men.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
We'll let the men that have to bring down with
a rock. Now I'm starting to catch on.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Ladies, Stay strong, Stay strong, I mean, I'm not laughing.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
With those.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Was that politically incorrect? Cardies? Y'all are miss.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yes, So don't play the good Times, but I can
play Archie Bunker.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Thank you. Don't let me buy some George Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You might have missed out on some Jackie Gleason too. Yeah, yeah,
play some Jackie Gleason. Give him a little bang zoom.
The man's home is his castle, in his castle, he
is the king.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Do you know who Jackie Gleason was? Carnasian? No? Oh,
come on? If I said the Honeymooners, does that this
sounds familiar?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Did you ever see smoking the bandit?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Good night everyone? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm sorry, I don't know what to say. I mean,
you know, like Burt Reynolds smoking to bandit?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
You said Jackie who Gleason? G l e ah, I
see his bitch, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Are you aware of this device people used to watch
called the television?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Look here, Mark, yeah, one more time.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
My goodness, see you gonna make me break out some
Jackie Leeson and George Jefferson just because, just because, oh.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
My goodness, one of these days, pow right to the moon.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The stuff that they used to say on TV they
could not even know they couldn't.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I mean literally used to say, one of these days,
Pow Powell right in the kisser bang zoom straight to
the moon with you, Alice. I used to watch the
Honeymooners every night before going to be It was like
Honeymooner's twilight zone. That was the black and white nights
that I used to like stay up till midnight for
before there was no television.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But just even the violence, or even the faked violence
of the Three Stooges, you can't even do that kind
of stuff away.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, TV has just changed.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I don't mean to, like, you know, digress into
some treatise on how TV has changed over the past
forty years, but it really has the things. And I
had to edit some of the stuff out of that
Archie Bunker clip because there's some stuff he said that
I can't even have sat on the radio now. That's
how much TV has changed. But so Robcat in the
(22:07):
chat says, MO, ain't done digging yet. Look, if I'm
gonna dig I'm gonna go all the way to the basement,
all the way down.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Just me, says MO. Are you trying to go on vacations. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
As a matter of fact, I'm going on vacation next month,
an extended vacation. I'm going on vacation with my wife.
I see, Okay, Yeah, And I'm quite sure someone that's
gotta be texting her right now?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Do you know what your husband's doing?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Because they do that, her friends will text us like
are you are you listening to him right now?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Do you know what he's saying?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
As if she's gonna tell me what I can and
can't say on my show, the nerve that is not
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm the king of my castle and the ruler of
all I survey.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
This reminds me on The Martin Show when Martin had
that episode he was talking crazy on air about Gina
or something.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Ain't Gina.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Heead checked him at the house.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, but that's see, that's television. That's not real life.
That's that's that's that's TV. That's that's made up. That's fictitious.
Who's gonna check me boo? Nope, Nope, no one's gonna
check me. No one's gonna check me.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, who would dare? No? No, No.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Stephen in the Chest says no, please Moe, not Jackie Gleason.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We gotta go to break because I gotta pull some clips.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Before we go. I don't know how we got here.
It was that whole man keeping.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Subject that, yeah, how men need to open up and
you know, share their soul to women, because that's the
only way that we can be fully developed men if
we just tell all our emotions and feelings and it's
like no, sorry, nope.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Sometimes you just got to know when to stop talking.
Ladies just stop talking.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I was just trying to show my math, as
they say, I played James Evans, I played Archie Bunker,
and I think it's now time to play some.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
George Jefferson, I'm surprised at you.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
I mean, who's to know better than my old family?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The respect I have for women, got the damn door.
Kend it yourself.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
You're gonna stop doing that nasmer door.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
But you are closer to it than I am.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
Mister Jefferson, What can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You can make me. You're a new manager. I'm Dale Parker.
There's more. It's a pleasure to meet you, mister Jefferson.
Here's a copy of my resume.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Oh yeah, pleased to meet you.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
To missus, h missus Parker Dale Parker, how.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
Come you got a man's name because I married a
man named Parker.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I meant the other the part Dale. That's not just
a man's name, George.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Remember Roy Rogers's partner Trigger.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
TV like they used to.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And I couldn't find the Jackie Gleason clip that I wanted.
But this will have to do on this occasion.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He's a problem maker.
Speaker 12 (25:43):
Well, I have gotten news for you, Ralph. You and
Norton and some of the men in this building can
learn an awful lot of things from Carlos. He happens
to be a gentleman, Ralph, and that seems to be
something that you have forgotten all about. He treats us
like women. That's something you've forgotten. To Ralph, you seem
to have forgotten that I am a woman.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I forgot you're a woman.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Oh good, you're always yapping?
Speaker 11 (26:09):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
I don't freak you like a woman. I treat you
like a woman. I let you, I let you cook it,
let you watch the boys.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Don't that's so inappropriate. So I think it was who
I don't know who it was who said it. I'm
better than that.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I am not just ask hr. I'm just playing clips.
That's all I'm doing. I grew up, grew up watching
all that, all that, Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
My goodness, and it's it's funny because here's here's the
serious point. For those who are either somewhat angry at
me or really mad at me, are some of the
same people who would say that we're too sensitive today,
that you know, we we don't know how to laugh
at ourselves today. And if you look at just about
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every Norman Lear show of the late nineteen seventies and
early eighties, none of that stuff could be on TV today.
None of it would have the same type of impact
because we're too busy pointing fingers at each other and
trying to disrespect each other as opposed to being able
to find things that we can laugh at each other.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I can found a whole bunch of other clips that
were making fun of men. But I'm saying, as far
as how we got there tonight, it was just the
function of people being mad with what I had to
say about mankeeping. No I'm not sorry, and if you
say it again, I'll want to play some more James Evans,
I'll play more George Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And that's all there is to it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
But no, we should be able to have fun with
each other in a way that we used to be
able to have fun with each other, but for some
reason we just can't. I know it's a very different
world now, and where it's a much.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
More course world, we don't.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We don't even look at each other in the same way.
I'm old enough. Carnecie is not old enough to remember.
Mark is old enough to remember. He doesn't want to
admit it. Careful, see tall old enough. We remember the
nineteen seventies and what it was like. Was everything great?
Absolutely not, But there was a way in which we
(28:23):
could talk about some of the ills. Because these shows
are talking about the problems which were going on in America.
They were putting it on a level which almost seemed farcical.
But what made it so powerful was everybody knew an
Archie Bunker in real life. Everyone knew a George Jefferson
in real life. And because there was a lot there
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was so much truth being expressed through the characters. It
put up a mirror to society, and it showed where
we were and how absurd in many ways where we
were as a country in the late nineteen seventies in
the early eighties, we look at this like, how could
anyone think that way? Oh? Yeah, Archie Bunker, for is
(29:05):
as absurd as he sounded. He was very much real
and a lot of people, and I know Mark knows
this because he's a student of television history, a lot
of people didn't even get the joke that they were
laughing at Archie Bunker and those like him.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, I wonder if we're even dumber down then we
were back then and people would even get the satire
of any Norman Lear show.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I mean, Archie Bunker was not meant to be taken
at face value, Okay, but a lot of people agreed.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
With him because they didn't understand that he was a caricature.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sure, but if you watch at the end of the show,
he almost always got his comeuppance or changed his mind
about something, And there was a method to this. But
I just think that a lot of like I used
to find it insane that people didn't understand that the
show twenty four was a fantasy and they thought we
should do all that stuff in the real world. The
same thing holds true for all the Norman Lear shows.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I wish that we could have groundbreaking TV like that
now in the age of cable, in the age of streaming,
you would think to be able because they can cover
larger subjects, of more controversial subjects. But TV is not
as daring as it once was. Now you have more profanity,
you even have nudity, but it's not daring like it
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was in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
They had.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
They actually said the F word pejorative for gay people
on air.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yea.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
They said the inward a couple of times over different shows.
And I'm not saying that we should do that now.
I'm just saying TV was a different vehicle back then
to highlight discrepancies, mistreatment of people, and also to move
society forward. Yeah, it was quote unquote progressive back then
(30:51):
because it was still controversial in the age of the
Jeffersons to have an interracial married.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Couple on primetime TV. Yeah, that was unheard of.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I mean, just think about how much funnier Saturday Night
Live was when they were able to actually take risks
instead now of tiptoeing around and given us more slapstick
and silliness, where it's like Saturday Live used to make real, solid,
hilarious social commentary, and it's almost like everyone is just
afraid to tell jokes. No one wants to get quote
(31:24):
unquote canceled.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And that I think is the truest serious commentary about
what's going on in the world today. As you think
about late night comedians being canceled or the shows being canceled,
can they talk about the President of the United States
however they want or their other considerations which have to
be made. If you watch Good Times, they made fun
(31:46):
of Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter all the time, all
the time, and all these shows made fun of whoever
was in the White House at the time. They made
fun of Gerald Ford I can't remember in his tripping
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
We don't have that now.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Oh, Presidents have always always been fair game, no matter
what party they were from until now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Until now, until now.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, now, you you brought up Saturday Night Live, there's
you probably know where I'm going with this. Richard Pryor
guest hosted an episode and he did a sketch about
an employee doing a word association with Chevy Chase. There
is absolutely no way in hell that would be on
TV today.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's one of the funniest bits ever. Yes, it was
mel Brooks esque. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I mean we can't even play that on the air.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
No part of it could we play on the air
for you to understand what it is we're saying. But
that was so shockingly funny and in your face it was.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Please look that up.
Speaker 13 (32:50):
Maybe maybe on our very last day, We'll play that
right before I go on vacation for real forever, so
you won't know what I'm like when you go to
the farm in upstate New York.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Will play that before your last day. K if I
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It's Later with Mo Kelly.
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And I gotta say, it's been a while since I really, really,
really really enjoyed a Marvel movie. I mean in the
way that I did many years ago, and if you
know the phases, like since maybe Phase three or four
or like Phase six. Now, Marvel's had good movies, but
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they haven't had great movies. Saw Fantastic four twice since
I last talked to you. It's a great movie. It's
not a perfect movie. It's a great movie. It is
reminiscent of Marvel when it was at its best, when
you had the first Iron Man. It was a way
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of storytelling which was funny, but it wasn't silly. It
wasn't like they were going for jokes just for jokes.
It happened in the natural course of whatever was happening.
The tone was the right tone. It was a world
ending event. I need you to treat it like that.
I didn't need you to have the main character trying
to go save squirrels like they did in Superman. This
(01:16):
movie fantastic four first steps. Obviously it was the number
one movie, but I suspect it's going to have some
real legs and it sets up the future Marvel movies
in a great way. I would love to see it
again to look at all the Easter eggs. Vanessa Kirby
(01:36):
fantastic performance. Everything in the movie turns on her actions.
Joseph Quinn, who played Human Torch, fine performance. Pedro Pascal.
I didn't really believe that he could be read Richards
when he was first cast. I was very skeptical, and
there's some things that I think he could have done better,
but I was pleased overall with his performance. I just
(01:59):
don't have a whole lot bad to say about this movie.
Tuala may disagree. I didn't get to hear Mark Ronner
and his runner reports, so what. I'm sorry you don't
listen when you're not here. I'm sorry, who are you?
That hurts? I have feelings. What was that manscaping stuff
you were talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Whatever it is, I need some of that now.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I loved it probably as much as you did, and
I thought they struck exactly the right tone. They finally
got Galactus right, which was a big sticking point for
me to get it more wrong. Nothing that one where
he was like a stupid space cloud. They just they
did everything right. Every doubt that I had about it
wound up being nothing. Even the female silver Surfer, which
(02:43):
I didn't want or care about, didn't ruin anything.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Lots of fun, but it was I don't want to
give it away for those who haven't seen it. It
was explained and it was essential to the overarching theme
of family and motherhood.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's all I'll say. That's all i'll say.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'll tell you I would rather listen to them go
on about family in the Fantastic four movie, the way
they did it so well, then in a million of
those awful fast and furious movies. Okay, relax on your
fast and furious critiques.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Those aren't even movies, they're just stimulus.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now, Fantastic Four was a proper movie with a really
well thought through story, and I like it a lot. Yeah,
I think I've seen it twice now, and for me
going into it, it is once again proof of something
I continues to say, and that is when the MCU
gets a hold of characters, they get it right. This
is not the first bite at the Fantastic for Apple.
(03:39):
There were two done by Tim's story. One that shall
not be mentioned, although I have to for this moment
by Josh Trank, which was the worst thing to ever
happen to cinema, and this.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Time it's not an overstatement either.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
No, going into it, I knew for a fact that
this movie was going to be pitch perfect because of
every they were showing us. They were once again giving
us a world that we have not seen. They were
creating a world that the Fantastic Four could thrive, and
they made it make sense. From beginning to end. All
of the performances were top notch. All the performances were
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character accurate. It was shocking to me how Reid Richards
Pedro Pascal was. I mean his awkwardness and uneasiness and
all that that went into it. But also there is
a slight, a slight bit of sinister to his character
that not many picked up on. That when you read
the comics, read Richards is one of the worst things
(04:37):
to happen. It comes because he just the way his
brain works. It's wrong for the world. And I just
love how they had slight little nods the emotion that
they gave Ben Grimm and how he carried the weight
of what happened to him but never let it show
and always held the team together.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I mean everything about this. I thought Joseph Quinn.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I had my worries about him as Johnny still Arm
only because I didn't think you would be able to
make the transition from the series the Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I was like, Oh, is he gonna be able to
do it?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I thought he was great, and I love how they
did not make Johnny storm and ask like he has
been in most other interpretations. I thought the way they
meet him, I was like, this is perfect, This is
so good. As a comic book fan, my wildest dreams
came to life on that screen and it was just
it was utter magic.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So we all.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Agree, is that what we're saying? And well, Tony seems
to be in some distress here. I think this was
when I mentioned the chick silver surfer. That's why I
won't see it female server surfer. I won't go now,
don't let.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That get at least at least see this.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Look.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's common accurate pages in a what if book?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Come no no, no, no, no, no no, Tony. And when
you see this when you see this story, it actually
makes sense. And I'm giving you from from the die
hard collector of conms U see my garage to say, yeah,
T T understands he's got a comic, a garage full
of comics.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Of all things to change.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Man, it doesn't ruin it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Let's not forget. This is not a spoiler. We know
that it doesn't take place on Earth six one six.
That's still the first one they show us that one.
I promise you, and it ain't the last.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I know. I promise you to tea. I promise you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Like we literally had on our nerd Rama podcast, we
have a member of Ryan McBain who literally he went
into it thinking he was going to have to set
the theater on fire. When when the female surfers h
hit the screen came out like you know what. I
was okay with it because I understand why now and
it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It wasn't a gender swap.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's a different character, different story, and it's relevant to
this story.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It wasn't like they had to make a reach for it. Also,
the way they depicted or surfing is really cool. Yeah,
oh yeah, it'd be really cool. Everything that they did
you're like, damn, you got it right. And it also
makes you excited to see when they go on and
give us norn Rad.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It was tawny too late though.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
When you know that, I bet you would get a
whole norn Rad movie, solo movies, all right, that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Solo book series. Come on. I think you haven't seen
the movie.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
If they would have used norm Rad in this particular
way and close the story in the way they did
in this movie, you would have been angry.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, you would have walked out there like blank blank
blank blank blank shrink.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, yeah, sure.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I just it's one of those things for me that
doesn't what it was like sacred like that one too.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
They can't. They just can't help themselves. I feel like
some time.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We're going to carry this over to the next seven
because we got to talk about Comic Con and what
happened this weekend, and it also ties into all things Marvel.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
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Speaker 2 (08:00):
Kay I mis from O'Kelly here.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We're live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And I've been getting your message calling me a nit anderthal,
saying them, you know, not progressive enough, small p as
far as male and female relationships. Guilty at charge, guiltiest charge.
I guess I'm a trad husband, so let me just
(08:24):
go ahead and piss you off even more. I think
the greatest piece of advice ever said on TV was
set by James Evans Senior on Good Times. And if
you're wondering what I really think about this whole man
keeping thing, how women are supposed to be the caretakers
(08:47):
of our emotions, I'm just gonna let James Evans speak
on my behalf.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, all right, everyone ready, all right, here we go.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
When wild Belona to one of those meetings where women
talk about their problems, you know, all that silly talk
about trying to better themselves, one.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Of them women's groups, Floorda, I'm surprised that you're wasting
your time at the crazy.
Speaker 10 (09:09):
Ladies meeting like that.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
You look at you sitting here bumping your gums when
you ought to be in there making dinner.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
James, you asked me to sit down. I think you
said he now y, there's.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
One thing I ain't got no plasce with us women
trying to push in and take over a man's job.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
James, that is.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Not what women are after. Tell me, flord I see
it every day. They're taking the food right out of
our mouth.
Speaker 10 (09:32):
I think you said enough. Hey, woman's wrong with you?
You don't tell me when to talk?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Cheers.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Send the one damn meeting right away. You flying in
my face, Jeames.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
That's not what it's all about.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
I'm gonna tell you've been driving everybody crazy running around here.
Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you
something Uncle Ed used to saying. Maybe he was right.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
There's only two places a woman belonged to, Jeames, don't
say it.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Get in the bedroom, Florida gets in in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Are you old man? Yeticulous? That's why I said all
you hate mail. I don't give the.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Comic con. You went to Comic Con. I did what
was some of the highs and lows?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It was.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
It was packed this year, But I think it's the
floor is packed because I think this was just less
compelling stuff in hall h you know, like the big
panel things. So I think just everyone was just it
was shoulder and shoulder in there all the days as
always were they camping out this.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Year there was there was kept it which didn't seem
as much.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
You know, one thing, one really cool thing I did
because you know, I'm you know of my age. You know,
remember the cartoon g I Joe of course, Okay, remember
there was a there was like one episode where they
the bad guys did like a fake band.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Didn't go and see this.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's cost of the show, don't They faced the cameras.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Everyone can see your shirt.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Cold Slither is a made up band that they created,
Joe that's made up of Zartan and the Dreadnoughts. Yes,
and they've been pumping up this whole they've been doing.
They made a real album, they made a serial.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I have it. It's good. It's actually a sufficiently metal album.
Oh my god. They did a whole.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Set and they did that Brick by Brick, which is
like a heavy metal punk venue too, is what they did.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's that's crappy.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
The funniest thing was during for the encore they saw
they started playing Jem the cartoon gem really and then
the girl came out and started singing the theme song
and it's like, oh, that was the original singer, the
original voice actress Jim and the hologram. They had her
come out and sheet and they played with her and
they played a jump song and the.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mind is blown. It was great. I got goose. It
was a fun night.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Hey, it was the most comic con thing I've ever
done in all my years. Did you get to see
any of the footage of acme Up? I saw the
that leaked online. I saw that a little bit. It
looks it's been shelved for a while, that movie, right, Yes,
it was actually not going to come out at all.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It was one of the films that when they eighty
six the Batgirl film, they aged six that one as well.
A whole bunch of films got cut. And then the
fight for will Forte. He fought Ford, fought for it,
fought for it, and then the further just got around
and it's like, the idea is genius. It is one
of the most genius ideas I've seen the company come
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up with an older product.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't know why they were trying to shelve it
because from what I read, it was about fifty million
dollars budget, which was modest yep, and I thought that
would have easily made its money back. It had some
real talent connected to it, Eric Balzilla, who's been on
the show YEP, the star of it is starting, and
he and I had talked a couple times offline. It's
like he didn't understand why Warner Brothers wouldn't release it,
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And it's probably because of all the publicity about it
being shelved. Is going to make far more money now
because it's worked now as a promotional campaign.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
It works for Deadpool, right right, that when that footage
leaked and finally everyone wanted to see that movie.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That think is kind of the same thing. I mean,
think about it.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You have Coyote who for years we have watched Coyote
by all these Acme products to catch road Runner, only
for those products to just blow up in his face
and everything goes awry. This is a film about Coyote
sewing Acme for all of his wrongdoing.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Genius. Yeah, it was the natural evolution of all that is.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Like, he's he spent I don't know, untold amounts of
money on this one company. Why he's stuck with them,
I don't know, but he did and now delivered to
the desert, right right. He just now he wants, you know,
some conversation.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yes, I like to me, I'm like, when you look
at at your old problem, I'm like to me, this
is like Hollywood, when you look at old eyps and
you think about just redoing something, do it like this.
Give us a new look, give us something that we
can look and say, Aha, that's genius. Not we're gonna
do total recall and it'd just be a different movie.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
The hell? Anything else from Comic Con?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Did you get to see George Lucaspiants That was Sunday?
That was he did the panel on Sunday last night. Yeah,
I watched it too.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
The thing that people should know is that you can
now see almost every single panel from Comic Con on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, before they get taken down. Yeah, but it didn't
used to be that way. So that was that was
more function of the pandemic.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
They made it available at that point, and then they
moved away from it because they still want you to
be there in person.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But yes, yeah, you don't have to endure the assorted
aromas of hall h And and the waiting troum looks interesting?
Oh yeah, I want to love it. I loved the
first Trum movie, the original Trum movie. The second one
is good enough.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But what they had they had a booth this year
with just the light cycle to they take a picture
on line was too long, I'm not waiting line. But
they had another line because they were doing a nine
inch nails like custom die.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Cut because they did the soundtrack.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Yeah nice, you know, and it was a custom kite
like die cut album.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And it's like, do I wait in line for nah, No,
I'm not waiting for it, but that the lines man line.
But but I want to be hopeful for that movie.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I really, really really do for Tron ares Yeah, yeah,
I'm a huge Tron fan, and unlike you, I actually
love the second one. The soundtrack finally, and finally the
sound design technology and CGI caught up to what Tron
was an envision to be originally.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
And we're hitting AI now, which is exactly in Tron's wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Absolutely, so this it can be really good and you
bring it back.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Jeff Bridges, I mean so that the dude now, yeah
he is, he's still a bid. He was in the
first movie. He was great.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I just you know, he was still flint, you know,
and just all of that, all of that. I loved
that first movie. What was the first movie eighty four,
eighty eighty two. Okay, yeah, the.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Light cycles, that first one still they still can't make
them look as fast as that original one.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
They looked they looked so fast, but it was literally
a computer game. And now you're bringing them into the
real world. Uh see the real world implications? Or I
love it, absolutely love it. I want to love it.
I'm watching the mo town chat and some of you
are angry at me about the clip I played, and uh.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Really yeah yeah they found that offensive.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah yeah, someone who said I think it was Cynthia
who said, Mo, you're better than that. Actually I'm not
Cynthia Melcour said boom, mo you're better than that. Oh really, no, Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
He's not one of those.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Meetings that women talk about their problems, you know, all
that silly talk about trying to better themselves.
Speaker 10 (16:51):
One of the women's groups PROD.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
I'm surprised that you're wasting your time at a crazy
ladies meeting like that. Look at you sitting here bumping
your gums when you ought to be in there making dinner.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
James, you asked me to sit down, I think you said.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
He Now, well, there's one thing I ain't got no
places with us women trying to push in and take
over a man's job.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
James, that is not what women are after, tell me,
flord I see it every day. They're taking the food
right out of my mouth. I think you said enough.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Hey, woman's wrong with you? You don't tell me when to talk.
She don't been the one damn meeting right when you're
flying in my face.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
Jesus, that's not what it's all accounts. I'm gonna tell
you've been driving everybody crazy running around here.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
Now you're going in women's meetings. I'm gonna tell you
something Uncle Ed used to saying. Maybe he was right.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
There's only two places a woman belonged to. Jeames, don't
say it.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Get you in the bedroom, far get in the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I am not better than that. You in a place
with Andrew Dice Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Next, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Can't find mister m'kelly here.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We're live everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app,
and the folks in the chat are mad at me
for playing that Good Times clip, not once, but twice.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's just can't mo. I thought you were better than that.
Keep trying to tell you I'm not.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And if you don't want me to play the good
times clip anymore, okay, I won't.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well what about Archie bunker.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Edge and Irene Lorenzo thinking that she's going to get
that job.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
Over me with all that gray heroes? Oh, she just
might get the job bought.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
You know, nowadays the government is pressuring companies into hire
and more women in executive positions.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I know, I know. It's a crime against nation. Women
was created with two things, making meals and babies. There
you go again with the nineteenth century thinking of you, Well,
that's true. Look at your cave women. Why do you
think your cave women was created with short legs and
fat butts?
Speaker 10 (19:01):
I don't know, watch, but I'm sure you got a
good answer.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
So they couldn't run fast, so the men could catch
him and force them to make the meals in the baby. Well,
warrant there any cave women with long legs and skinny
butts that could run faster than the men.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
We'll let the men that have to bring down with
a rock. Now I'm starting to catch on.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Ladies, Stay strong, Stay strong, I mean, I'm not laughing.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
With those.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Was that politically incorrect? Cardies? Y'all are miss.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yes, So don't play the good Times, but I can
play Archie Bunker.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Thank you. Don't let me buy some George Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You might have missed out on some Jackie Gleason too. Yeah, yeah,
play some Jackie Gleason. Give him a little bang zoom.
The man's home is his castle, in his castle, he
is the king.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Do you know who Jackie Gleason was? Carnasian? No? Oh,
come on? If I said the Honeymooners, does that this
sounds familiar?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Did you ever see smoking the bandit?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Good night everyone? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm sorry, I don't know what to say. I mean,
you know, like Burt Reynolds smoking to bandit?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
You said Jackie who Gleason? G l e ah, I
see his bitch, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Are you aware of this device people used to watch
called the television?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Look here, Mark, yeah, one more time.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
My goodness, see you gonna make me break out some
Jackie Leeson and George Jefferson just because, just because, oh.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
My goodness, one of these days, pow right to the moon.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The stuff that they used to say on TV they
could not even know they couldn't.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I mean literally used to say, one of these days,
Pow Powell right in the kisser bang zoom straight to
the moon with you, Alice. I used to watch the
Honeymooners every night before going to be It was like
Honeymooner's twilight zone. That was the black and white nights
that I used to like stay up till midnight for
before there was no television.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But just even the violence, or even the faked violence
of the Three Stooges, you can't even do that kind
of stuff away.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, TV has just changed.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I don't mean to, like, you know, digress into
some treatise on how TV has changed over the past
forty years, but it really has the things. And I
had to edit some of the stuff out of that
Archie Bunker clip because there's some stuff he said that
I can't even have sat on the radio now. That's
how much TV has changed. But so Robcat in the
(22:07):
chat says, MO, ain't done digging yet. Look, if I'm
gonna dig I'm gonna go all the way to the basement,
all the way down.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Just me, says MO. Are you trying to go on vacations. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
As a matter of fact, I'm going on vacation next month,
an extended vacation. I'm going on vacation with my wife.
I see, Okay, Yeah, And I'm quite sure someone that's
gotta be texting her right now?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Do you know what your husband's doing?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Because they do that, her friends will text us like
are you are you listening to him right now?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Do you know what he's saying?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
As if she's gonna tell me what I can and
can't say on my show, the nerve that is not
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm the king of my castle and the ruler of
all I survey.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
This reminds me on The Martin Show when Martin had
that episode he was talking crazy on air about Gina
or something.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Ain't Gina.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Heead checked him at the house.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, but that's see, that's television. That's not real life.
That's that's that's that's TV. That's that's made up. That's fictitious.
Who's gonna check me boo? Nope, Nope, no one's gonna
check me. No one's gonna check me.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, who would dare? No? No, No.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Stephen in the Chest says no, please Moe, not Jackie Gleason.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We gotta go to break because I gotta pull some clips.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Before we go. I don't know how we got here.
It was that whole man keeping.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Subject that, yeah, how men need to open up and
you know, share their soul to women, because that's the
only way that we can be fully developed men if
we just tell all our emotions and feelings and it's
like no, sorry, nope.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Sometimes you just got to know when to stop talking.
Ladies just stop talking.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I was just trying to show my math, as
they say, I played James Evans, I played Archie Bunker,
and I think it's now time to play some.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
George Jefferson, I'm surprised at you.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
I mean, who's to know better than my old family?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
The respect I have for women, got the damn door.
Kend it yourself.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
You're gonna stop doing that nasmer door.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
But you are closer to it than I am.
Speaker 10 (24:45):
Mister Jefferson, What can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You can make me. You're a new manager. I'm Dale Parker.
There's more. It's a pleasure to meet you, mister Jefferson.
Here's a copy of my resume.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
Oh yeah, pleased to meet you.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
To missus, h missus Parker Dale Parker, how.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
Come you got a man's name because I married a
man named Parker.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I meant the other the part Dale. That's not just
a man's name, George.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Remember Roy Rogers's partner Trigger.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
TV like they used to.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And I couldn't find the Jackie Gleason clip that I wanted.
But this will have to do on this occasion.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He's a problem maker.
Speaker 12 (25:43):
Well, I have gotten news for you, Ralph. You and
Norton and some of the men in this building can
learn an awful lot of things from Carlos. He happens
to be a gentleman, Ralph, and that seems to be
something that you have forgotten all about. He treats us
like women. That's something you've forgotten. To Ralph, you seem
to have forgotten that I am a woman.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I forgot you're a woman.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Oh good, you're always yapping?
Speaker 11 (26:09):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
I don't freak you like a woman. I treat you
like a woman. I let you, I let you cook it,
let you watch the boys.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Don't that's so inappropriate. So I think it was who
I don't know who it was who said it. I'm
better than that.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I am not just ask hr. I'm just playing clips.
That's all I'm doing. I grew up, grew up watching
all that, all that, Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
My goodness, and it's it's funny because here's here's the
serious point. For those who are either somewhat angry at
me or really mad at me, are some of the
same people who would say that we're too sensitive today,
that you know, we we don't know how to laugh
at ourselves today. And if you look at just about
(27:04):
every Norman Lear show of the late nineteen seventies and
early eighties, none of that stuff could be on TV today.
None of it would have the same type of impact
because we're too busy pointing fingers at each other and
trying to disrespect each other as opposed to being able
to find things that we can laugh at each other.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I can found a whole bunch of other clips that
were making fun of men. But I'm saying, as far
as how we got there tonight, it was just the
function of people being mad with what I had to
say about mankeeping. No I'm not sorry, and if you
say it again, I'll want to play some more James Evans,
I'll play more George Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And that's all there is to it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
But no, we should be able to have fun with
each other in a way that we used to be
able to have fun with each other, but for some
reason we just can't. I know it's a very different
world now, and where it's a much.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
More course world, we don't.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We don't even look at each other in the same way.
I'm old enough. Carnecie is not old enough to remember.
Mark is old enough to remember. He doesn't want to
admit it. Careful, see tall old enough. We remember the
nineteen seventies and what it was like. Was everything great?
Absolutely not, But there was a way in which we
(28:23):
could talk about some of the ills. Because these shows
are talking about the problems which were going on in America.
They were putting it on a level which almost seemed farcical.
But what made it so powerful was everybody knew an
Archie Bunker in real life. Everyone knew a George Jefferson
in real life. And because there was a lot there
(28:43):
was so much truth being expressed through the characters. It
put up a mirror to society, and it showed where
we were and how absurd in many ways where we
were as a country in the late nineteen seventies in
the early eighties, we look at this like, how could
anyone think that way? Oh? Yeah, Archie Bunker, for is
(29:05):
as absurd as he sounded. He was very much real
and a lot of people, and I know Mark knows
this because he's a student of television history, a lot
of people didn't even get the joke that they were
laughing at Archie Bunker and those like him.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, I wonder if we're even dumber down then we
were back then and people would even get the satire
of any Norman Lear show.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I mean, Archie Bunker was not meant to be taken
at face value, Okay, but a lot of people agreed.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
With him because they didn't understand that he was a caricature.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Sure, but if you watch at the end of the show,
he almost always got his comeuppance or changed his mind
about something, And there was a method to this. But
I just think that a lot of like I used
to find it insane that people didn't understand that the
show twenty four was a fantasy and they thought we
should do all that stuff in the real world. The
same thing holds true for all the Norman Lear shows.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I wish that we could have groundbreaking TV like that
now in the age of cable, in the age of streaming,
you would think to be able because they can cover
larger subjects, of more controversial subjects. But TV is not
as daring as it once was. Now you have more profanity,
you even have nudity, but it's not daring like it
(30:21):
was in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
They had.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
They actually said the F word pejorative for gay people
on air.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yea.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
They said the inward a couple of times over different shows.
And I'm not saying that we should do that now.
I'm just saying TV was a different vehicle back then
to highlight discrepancies, mistreatment of people, and also to move
society forward. Yeah, it was quote unquote progressive back then
(30:51):
because it was still controversial in the age of the
Jeffersons to have an interracial married.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Couple on primetime TV. Yeah, that was unheard of.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I mean, just think about how much funnier Saturday Night
Live was when they were able to actually take risks
instead now of tiptoeing around and given us more slapstick
and silliness, where it's like Saturday Live used to make real, solid,
hilarious social commentary, and it's almost like everyone is just
afraid to tell jokes. No one wants to get quote
(31:24):
unquote canceled.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And that I think is the truest serious commentary about
what's going on in the world today. As you think
about late night comedians being canceled or the shows being canceled,
can they talk about the President of the United States
however they want or their other considerations which have to
be made. If you watch Good Times, they made fun
(31:46):
of Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter all the time, all
the time, and all these shows made fun of whoever
was in the White House at the time. They made
fun of Gerald Ford I can't remember in his tripping
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
We don't have that now.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Oh, Presidents have always always been fair game, no matter
what party they were from until now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Until now, until now.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, now, you you brought up Saturday Night Live, there's
you probably know where I'm going with this. Richard Pryor
guest hosted an episode and he did a sketch about
an employee doing a word association with Chevy Chase. There
is absolutely no way in hell that would be on
TV today.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's one of the funniest bits ever. Yes, it was
mel Brooks esque. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I mean we can't even play that on the air.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
No part of it could we play on the air
for you to understand what it is we're saying. But
that was so shockingly funny and in your face it was.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Please look that up.
Speaker 13 (32:50):
Maybe maybe on our very last day, We'll play that
right before I go on vacation for real forever, so
you won't know what I'm like when you go to
the farm in upstate New York.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Will play that before your last day. K if I
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