August 23, 2024 • 22 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the fourth and final night of the 2024 Democratic National Convention - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Vice President Harris, also presidential candidate for the Democrats, Kamala
Harris just left the stage formally accepting the nomination for president.
And if you were to tune into just about any
cable news network, the conversations are going on right now,
having everything to do with whether it was a good speech,
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whether it was a great speech, whether it was a
speech that hit the mark or missed the mark. And
this is why you listened to Lady with Mo Kelly.
I don't do that, and I'm going to give you
something that no one else is going to give you.
And it's real simple. It's not about whether you like
the soaring rhetoric. It's not about whether you think that
she seemed presidential. It's not about even whether it was
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a good speech. Because I'm here to tell you if
you have already made up your mind that you're voting
for Donald Trump, there's not a word that would have
come out of her mouth which is going to change
her mind. There is nothing that she's going to say
or did say, is going to make you think, oh
my goodness, I think I'm going to change my vote.
I think that I was a great speech, and that
is going to make me donate to her campaign, and
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I'm gonna vot Kamala Harris. There's absolutely nothing that she's
going to say where you're going to give her credit.
Let's be honest, and by the same token last month,
if Donald Trump said X, Y, and Z, there's no
one who was inclined to vote for Kamala Harris was
going to give any credit to Donald Trump's speech. I'm
not here to tell you whether it was a good speech.
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I'm here to tell you that you're looking at it
all wrong. It's about whether it was an effective speech.
And effective speeches, there are our data points to support that.
And what is an effective speech one which reaches not
only the target demographic, but the demographic they hadn't reached before.
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An effective speech inspires people to add, actually act. An
effective speech gains you something in a process. And it
doesn't matter if she got up there and read the
phone book. If we wake up tomorrow and the Democrats
have raised more money, if we wake up tomorrow and
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the polling numbers are higher than were where they were before,
If we wake up tomorrow and Kamala Harris is in
a better political position than she was prior to taking
the stage. Then it was an effective speech, and that
would be inarguable.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You don't even have to like it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's about whether it is an effective speech, not whether
you think it was good or not. Now I could
turn on MSNBC, They'll say, oh, it was wonderful. I
could turn on Fox News and I promise you they
hated everything about it, and they would say it was
beneath the dignity of the office, or they wouldn't have
liked the barbs. I already know how the spend goes.
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I've been doing this way too long. But that's not
what I do. I'm telling you something to look for
to give you a clear indication of whether the speech
was effective or not, and that has yet to be determined.
It's how Americans more generally react to it. Do you
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get some of the moderates and independence. Do you see
a swell of support in a financial sense? If you
do well, that means the speech was good, because that's
the whole point of it all. And if you notice,
while you were and I get into the strategy of
how a speech is laid out, I like to get
into the minutiae of what it was trying to do. Now,
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tomorrow we'll find out whether it accomplished what it set
out to do. But tonight I can talk about what
I think it was trying to do. Did you notice
during the speech that time and time again Kamala Harris
was quoting Donald Trump. That was very prosecutorial of her.
She was basically reading back the transcript of the past
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four years of statements and actions as if they were
in a courtroom and say, mister Trump, do you remember
when you said X, Y and Z. Oh you don't remember,
let me show this to you. Are these your words?
And she says them out loud and puts them in
the court record. That's what she was doing. She was,
as they were saying, prosecuting the case against Donald Trump.
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You're gonna hear more and more of that, and tomorrow
we'll know whether that's an effective strategy or not, not
whether it's a good strategy, not whether you agree with
the strategy, not whether you like the strategy, whether it
was an effective strategy. Did it increase her position? And
I can't even see the spin rooms, well I can
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see the spin rooms. I can't hear what they're saying,
but I'm quite sure they're not talking about that. And
that's why you listen to KFI because you're gonna get
something that you're not gonna get anywhere else. I'm not
saying this the speech was good or great or whatever. Honestly,
it doesn't make any difference to me. I'm curious to
see how it landed. That says everything, because there are
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a lot of times I didn't think the speech, the
presentation of the oratory of Donald Trump was all that spectacular.
But it landed, and that made it an effective speech.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Donald Trump could have gotten up there and saying Mary
had a little lamb and if your mother father started
donating to him and he increased his pole position, well
you know what, that made it a great fricking speech
because that's what you were waiting to hear. That's what
you wanted from him, and that means he connected. Being
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a politician and elected official is all about connection. Why
do you think they always start off with their personal story.
It's about connecting with you, the potential voter. What is
it in Kamala Harris's past resonates with you? May have
been a story about her mother, may have been a
story about her growing up, may have been a story
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about her father or her sister. Hopefully that something in
that story would have said to you will Kamala Harris
understands me because we went through the same thing a
sof point. They're just trying to connect and whether it
connects or not, we'll know tomorrow. Like I said, we
were to look at the viewership numbers and we would
know whether people were tuning in out of morbid curiosity
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or whether they were tuning in because they heard something
and saw something they wanted to hear more. And from
what we saw the first day, more people tuned in
the second day. The number state consisted of the third day,
and it's reasonable to then surmise that people were appreciative
or liked the presentation.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay, that has nothing to do with what I like.
It has to do with the data shows you're.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
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Speaker 2 (06:57):
And just a few more thoughts about the recently concluded
each by Vice President Harris, now officially presidential candidate representing
the Democrats. I thought, because of published reports that there
was going to be a mystery guest. Most new sites
were saying, there's a mystery guest on the schedule for
tonight at the DNC. Some people thought it was going
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to be Beyonce. I was thinking, like, what if they
really went big with Beyonce and Taylor Swift? And I
mentioned Taylor Swift because there was the meme which was
put out by former President Trump saying that Taylor Swift
had endorsed Trump, and Trump had responded on truth Socials
saying I accept I expected her to address that. On
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some level, Taylor Swift has not really ever put her
foot into partisan political politics. She has implored people to vote,
but she really hasn't stepped all the way into it,
as opposed to Beyonce, who's done inaugurations. She's done things
of a political nature. She's hosted fundraisers, so it would
be no big surprise to see beyond say part of this,
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but there was really no mystery guest. And then Tuala
you brought something to my attention that I did not consider.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The fact that this was the only finale within the
DNC that wasn't preceded by a musical act period, and
they played Beyonce's music while her sister came out, kind
of giving this feeling like, oh wait a minute, is
Beyonce coming. I'm wondering if things did not go awry,
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because how do you have Vice President Kamala Harris's sister
speak and then not go directly to her?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
If I remember correctly, we know that Ashley Biden directly
preceded Joe Biden, and I think Usha Vance directly preceded
jd Vance. Yes, if I'm wrong, someone will correct me.
But I thought that was the progression. I'm going off
the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because she said, and now, my husband, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right, that's right to think that North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper,
who is not a great orator, would be the leading
to Kamala Harris. I don't think that was the original plant.
I don't think if anything, it would have been Harris's sister,
Maya Harris, and then maybe a musical act like they
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did the night before with Tim Walls, and then you'd
have Kamala Harris. I just don't see how Roy Cooper,
in any world would have been the intended introduction to
Kamala Harris unless they were like, look, we have to
as we know they have done.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Cut the musical act. She's going to speak for this
amount of time. We already know we're gonna have to
get out of here on time. We got to cut
the musical act. Who's in the in the wings that
we can put up right? Oh, we had Kid Rock
who was right before Donald Trump. Yes, yes, you know
there was President. There's no reason to think that. Okay,
we're gonna set it off. We're gonna really set the mood.
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We're gonna set the tone new uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper that that's the that's what
we need that will send the crowd into a frenzy. No,
nobody said that, Well, pump the breaks their chief. Nobody
said that. So something changed.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Even he said, I know, I know, I'm not what
you're looking here for. You know, I'm just gotta say
a couple of things real quick.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It's like, and I don't think Doling.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, I don't think Vice President Harris was backstage and
they weren't ready for her, or there was a tech
issue with her microphone or something.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't think it was that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think it was something with the scheduling and order
and trying to slot someone who either changed her mind
at the last second or they just changed the order.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It was all over the wire that it was likely
Beyonce going to perform, So this doesn't come out of nowhere.
And I agree with both of you that it sounds
like something went awry.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We may never know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This is speculation on my part, but it's not completely
uninformed speculation because you just compare it to other conventions,
other nights in this convention, other nights in the Republican
National Convention. It doesn't make sense when you had the
DNC and all the high powered musical guests that they
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don't employ that same strategy leading into the presidential nominee.
When you did it for the vice presidential nominee, and
it was done for both the vice presidential and presidential
nominee for the Republicans, it just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Heck, I have had to change the order of concerts
are produced wherein we were waiting for a specific act
to arrive, didn't have them there on site and had
to say who is here ready to go in the wings,
and have had to make those changes last minute. So
I know how quickly things can change on the dime
when you're doing a show. Heck, even when we were
broadcasting from Politic Con and we had you know, it
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was which guest is ready to go at that moment?
At that moment, who do we have next ready to go?
Bring them on? And that's just how sometimes you have
to go.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But I what still is confounding to me to think
that the fail safe was Roy Cooper. It's like, just
so hypothetically, Beyonce, thank you, I.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Got it right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You know, I don't think that when they were mapping
this out that I'll say, the designated survivor in the
event that it all falls apart, that Roy Cooper was
going to step up on stage. I don't think that
was the one. I think something happened that no one
foresaw and they were scrambling, and that guy is like,
who do we have that's in the house, who can
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give us four minutes off the top of his head.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They could have gone with Governor k Newsom, who's you know,
who's familiar with her, who knows There's a lot of
people that were in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
They were pulled up.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was he there tonight? Okay, well, yeah, that would have
made more sense. At least there's a California, TI. And
I just don't see how they ended up with Royle, I.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Mean a real familiarity, because from what we're watching this,
we're like, so you two know each other how Yeah,
I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Much of the speech, but I don't know how it
connected on any level.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't know. I don't from what I heard, I
don't think they he.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Even knew her all that well personally now, because he
was talking about a time when they were both working
on some housing initiative, and you know that that's not
a personal attitude to each other in the hall and say, hey,
I'm working on that too, So now let me bring
her up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What. Yeah, And I don't know if that Oh, before
I forget, this is something I did want to make
a comment on. And Mark Ronner, you told me something
that I didn't know. I didn't know that that was
streamed live via Twitch. That's for the young folks, right,
people younger than us, No, I mean really young. We're
talking about gamers for the most part.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Gamers, streamers folks who probably have zero connection whatsoever to
presidential politics. They're not just generally checking for a national
convention for a political party What it says to me
is they are really really comprehensive the Democrats in this
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regard to making some sort of connection. Remember, we're talking
about finding those points of commonality, making those points of
connection with a much younger demographic.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's not just this election. It's about developing future voters.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's one thing to have them vote for one election
in one year, but you want them to vote for you, your
party for successive elections, for the midterms of twenty twenty six,
the next election in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah, we'd like you to take a break from Grand
Theft Auto five and listen to this speech for what
forty minutes?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Look, does it cost anything to stream?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Did they get thousands of viewers?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, I don't know the numbers, but I'm quite sure
they got thousands of viewers just out of curiosity. So
as far as I'm concerned, it's free publicity and now
you'll see everybody doing it. It's another platform that you
can get your message out.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't correct me again if I'm wrong. I think some
of the R ANDC went out on if I'm not mistaken.
So these are new ways in which political parties are
using that digital space to transform how they talk to
different demographics.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're not going to only rely.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
On a television broadcast. Look, if I'm twenty four years
old grand Theft Auto, I am not watching NBC no
disrespect to watch a political convention for two hours to
hopefully see Kamala Harris for fifty minutes of it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't know what happening, But what is their technology?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Can you have like a little window with the speech
while you're still playing the League of Legends? Or do
you have to pick one or the other?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No? No, you can. You can do picture in a pictures Yeah,
can you do that? Thank you? You can't.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I'm saying they're not checking for it on a
traditional broadcast network.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Speaker 1 (15:52):
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
Politics today is so weird, it's almost like it's almost
like it's an extension of who we are personally, Like
we have to have this person win this office because
it's it's part of our our being. Like people are
so invested their personas are so invested with these politicians
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they lose sight of just reality. And not a day
goes by I don't know about you, Mark, but not
a day goes by no exaggeration where someone doesn't hit
me on social media at mister mo Kelly, at later
with mo Kelly and try to tell me what I believe,
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or tell me that's my job, what my politics are.
And they say, mo You're just a something something something
liberal and it's like and I talked to my liberal
friends and I said, they have no idea who you are.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
That's absolutely no idea. I missed the boring old days.
In fact, somebody I knew in high school just unfriended
me a few days ago on Facebook because I pointed
out that something she posted was deranged propaganda and it
objectively was. There was not a true thing about it.
And I'm not going to tell you what it was
because I don't want to get into both sides thing here.
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But I really missed the boring old days when we
this wasn't at the forefront of our minds all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
If anyone actually knew me, they would know I'm a
policy walk. I love getting into the weeds of policy
and talking about the different demographics, which would who would
benefit from this or suffer from that.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Going back to the.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Days of where you'd have these fights on Capitol Hill
and pork which would be put into a bill, and
how that might impact the the national debt. I was
that guy who loved that kind of stuff. All that's
out the window now. There's not a discussion of policy
even in the presidential race right now, not a lot
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of policy discussions.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Part of it is strategy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I know why they're doing it, because I study this
all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But now it's just you're just rooting for a side.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's if so and so is running for president, they're evil.
If so and so wants to do this, it must
be inherently wrong because that side is evil. That's where
we are right now, and it's so far from who
I am. And if people actually paid attention to me,
they would know that I don't and have never endorsed
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presidential candidates.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I do not donate to candidates or their campaigns. You
picked the wrong week for that time. I know.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Every time I pick up my phone or look at
my email, I am flooded with donation messages.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh I get them all from everyone. It's like I
never signed up for your fricking list? How did you
keep this information?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know? And not a day goes by or someone
says you need to do this. No, I don't know.
You need to tell don't. I had someone hit me
on my Facebook personal Facebook, so on.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Have you talked about Kamala Harrison and why she's ducking
the media? Number one, I don't do leading questions. Number two,
I don't take suggestions or requests. I'm not a DJ
what And Number three, I don't do advocacy political advocacy journalism.
If you actually knew who I was, if you watched
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any of the work that I've done on CNN and Spectrum,
I provide political analysis. I answer the questions which are
asked of me. I don't go on there trying to
get people elected. If you ask me a question, like,
for example, if someone asked me and I Mark Thompson
when I did his podcast, The Mark Thompson Show on Wednesday,
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I was asked about Kamala Harrison interviews, and then I
gave a whole litany of history of expectations or the
non existent of expectations of political candidates and doing sit
down interviews.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Here's the answer. It's not. It never has been a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
In other words, you don't expect a presidential candidate, who
is I should say, expect to demand a political candidate
to sit down to do a one on one when
they're not even the presidential nominee.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That is a get for the media.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All media outlets would want that, But there's never been
an expectation that just because someone is running for president,
they have to do a sit down.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
If you've actually been.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Following the campaigns as I have, Harris has been doing
interviews after every single campaign event. There are press gaggles
after every single one. The only expectation is that you
have the press follow you on the campaign trail. You
will have reporters embedded with the campaign, and at the
end of each campaign event, the candidate will address the
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press and all that is out there.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
This whole idea she hasn't sat down for a one
on one. That SBS well.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
One other thing to point out is that when she
does these gaggles, pay attention to the questions that these
guys are asking her. When they finally get her, it's
like you've been whining about this and you're gonna ask
her that it's some dumb stuff. It's very disappointing our
I think our news media has largely failed us.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
People are just repeating stuff and they number one, Bin Lars.
They don't know how the process works too. They don't
know the history of covering political candidates and what the
actual history was, you know, the norms, the true expectations.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
All this about a one on one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You wouldn't have a requirement of someone sitting down for
a one on one who's not even officially the nominee.
It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Will she
eventually yes? Is she supposed to beforehand? No, that's that's
something that someone made up, and they take great umbrage
at it. If you've been paying attention to the New
York Times, I really think they they were in high
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dudgeon that President Biden did not give them a sit
down interview. Yeah, and that's why, because they want the
get they want the exclusive, and so they're gonna shame
you for not giving them the exclusive.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's how the business works. And and you know, and as.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We go through this political season, I'll explain more of
those things, and then you'll actually know how I feel
about X, Y and Z, as opposed to being told
how I feel about X Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Vice President Harris, also presidential candidate for the Democrats, Kamala
Harris just left the stage formally accepting the nomination for president.
And if you were to tune into just about any
cable news network, the conversations are going on right now,
having everything to do with whether it was a good speech,
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whether it was a great speech, whether it was a
speech that hit the mark or missed the mark. And
this is why you listened to Lady with Mo Kelly.
I don't do that, and I'm going to give you
something that no one else is going to give you.
And it's real simple. It's not about whether you like
the soaring rhetoric. It's not about whether you think that
she seemed presidential. It's not about even whether it was
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a good speech. Because I'm here to tell you if
you have already made up your mind that you're voting
for Donald Trump, there's not a word that would have
come out of her mouth which is going to change
her mind. There is nothing that she's going to say
or did say, is going to make you think, oh
my goodness, I think I'm going to change my vote.
I think that I was a great speech, and that
is going to make me donate to her campaign, and
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I'm gonna vot Kamala Harris. There's absolutely nothing that she's
going to say where you're going to give her credit.
Let's be honest, and by the same token last month,
if Donald Trump said X, Y, and Z, there's no
one who was inclined to vote for Kamala Harris was
going to give any credit to Donald Trump's speech. I'm
not here to tell you whether it was a good speech.
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I'm here to tell you that you're looking at it
all wrong. It's about whether it was an effective speech.
And effective speeches, there are our data points to support that.
And what is an effective speech one which reaches not
only the target demographic, but the demographic they hadn't reached before.
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An effective speech inspires people to add, actually act. An
effective speech gains you something in a process. And it
doesn't matter if she got up there and read the
phone book. If we wake up tomorrow and the Democrats
have raised more money, if we wake up tomorrow and
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the polling numbers are higher than were where they were before,
If we wake up tomorrow and Kamala Harris is in
a better political position than she was prior to taking
the stage. Then it was an effective speech, and that
would be inarguable.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You don't even have to like it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's about whether it is an effective speech, not whether
you think it was good or not. Now I could
turn on MSNBC, They'll say, oh, it was wonderful. I
could turn on Fox News and I promise you they
hated everything about it, and they would say it was
beneath the dignity of the office, or they wouldn't have
liked the barbs. I already know how the spend goes.
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I've been doing this way too long. But that's not
what I do. I'm telling you something to look for
to give you a clear indication of whether the speech
was effective or not, and that has yet to be determined.
It's how Americans more generally react to it. Do you
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get some of the moderates and independence. Do you see
a swell of support in a financial sense? If you
do well, that means the speech was good, because that's
the whole point of it all. And if you notice,
while you were and I get into the strategy of
how a speech is laid out, I like to get
into the minutiae of what it was trying to do. Now,
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tomorrow we'll find out whether it accomplished what it set
out to do. But tonight I can talk about what
I think it was trying to do. Did you notice
during the speech that time and time again Kamala Harris
was quoting Donald Trump. That was very prosecutorial of her.
She was basically reading back the transcript of the past
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four years of statements and actions as if they were
in a courtroom and say, mister Trump, do you remember
when you said X, Y and Z. Oh you don't remember,
let me show this to you. Are these your words?
And she says them out loud and puts them in
the court record. That's what she was doing. She was,
as they were saying, prosecuting the case against Donald Trump.
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You're gonna hear more and more of that, and tomorrow
we'll know whether that's an effective strategy or not, not
whether it's a good strategy, not whether you agree with
the strategy, not whether you like the strategy, whether it
was an effective strategy. Did it increase her position? And
I can't even see the spin rooms, well I can
(04:48):
see the spin rooms. I can't hear what they're saying,
but I'm quite sure they're not talking about that. And
that's why you listen to KFI because you're gonna get
something that you're not gonna get anywhere else. I'm not
saying this the speech was good or great or whatever. Honestly,
it doesn't make any difference to me. I'm curious to
see how it landed. That says everything, because there are
(05:09):
a lot of times I didn't think the speech, the
presentation of the oratory of Donald Trump was all that spectacular.
But it landed, and that made it an effective speech.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Donald Trump could have gotten up there and saying Mary
had a little lamb and if your mother father started
donating to him and he increased his pole position, well
you know what, that made it a great fricking speech
because that's what you were waiting to hear. That's what
you wanted from him, and that means he connected. Being
(05:45):
a politician and elected official is all about connection. Why
do you think they always start off with their personal story.
It's about connecting with you, the potential voter. What is
it in Kamala Harris's past resonates with you? May have
been a story about her mother, may have been a
story about her growing up, may have been a story
(06:06):
about her father or her sister. Hopefully that something in
that story would have said to you will Kamala Harris
understands me because we went through the same thing a
sof point. They're just trying to connect and whether it
connects or not, we'll know tomorrow. Like I said, we
were to look at the viewership numbers and we would
know whether people were tuning in out of morbid curiosity
(06:27):
or whether they were tuning in because they heard something
and saw something they wanted to hear more. And from
what we saw the first day, more people tuned in
the second day. The number state consisted of the third day,
and it's reasonable to then surmise that people were appreciative
or liked the presentation.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay, that has nothing to do with what I like.
It has to do with the data shows you're.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And just a few more thoughts about the recently concluded
each by Vice President Harris, now officially presidential candidate representing
the Democrats. I thought, because of published reports that there
was going to be a mystery guest. Most new sites
were saying, there's a mystery guest on the schedule for
tonight at the DNC. Some people thought it was going
(07:18):
to be Beyonce. I was thinking, like, what if they
really went big with Beyonce and Taylor Swift? And I
mentioned Taylor Swift because there was the meme which was
put out by former President Trump saying that Taylor Swift
had endorsed Trump, and Trump had responded on truth Socials
saying I accept I expected her to address that. On
(07:39):
some level, Taylor Swift has not really ever put her
foot into partisan political politics. She has implored people to vote,
but she really hasn't stepped all the way into it,
as opposed to Beyonce, who's done inaugurations. She's done things
of a political nature. She's hosted fundraisers, so it would
be no big surprise to see beyond say part of this,
(08:01):
but there was really no mystery guest. And then Tuala
you brought something to my attention that I did not consider.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
The fact that this was the only finale within the
DNC that wasn't preceded by a musical act period, and
they played Beyonce's music while her sister came out, kind
of giving this feeling like, oh wait a minute, is
Beyonce coming. I'm wondering if things did not go awry,
(08:30):
because how do you have Vice President Kamala Harris's sister
speak and then not go directly to her?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
If I remember correctly, we know that Ashley Biden directly
preceded Joe Biden, and I think Usha Vance directly preceded
jd Vance. Yes, if I'm wrong, someone will correct me.
But I thought that was the progression. I'm going off
the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Because she said, and now, my husband, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right, that's right to think that North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper,
who is not a great orator, would be the leading
to Kamala Harris. I don't think that was the original plant.
I don't think if anything, it would have been Harris's sister,
Maya Harris, and then maybe a musical act like they
(09:21):
did the night before with Tim Walls, and then you'd
have Kamala Harris. I just don't see how Roy Cooper,
in any world would have been the intended introduction to
Kamala Harris unless they were like, look, we have to
as we know they have done.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Cut the musical act. She's going to speak for this
amount of time. We already know we're gonna have to
get out of here on time. We got to cut
the musical act. Who's in the in the wings that
we can put up right? Oh, we had Kid Rock
who was right before Donald Trump. Yes, yes, you know
there was President. There's no reason to think that. Okay,
we're gonna set it off. We're gonna really set the mood.
(10:00):
We're gonna set the tone new uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper that that's the that's what
we need that will send the crowd into a frenzy. No,
nobody said that, Well, pump the breaks their chief. Nobody
said that. So something changed.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Even he said, I know, I know, I'm not what
you're looking here for. You know, I'm just gotta say
a couple of things real quick.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It's like, and I don't think Doling.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, I don't think Vice President Harris was backstage and
they weren't ready for her, or there was a tech
issue with her microphone or something.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't think it was that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think it was something with the scheduling and order
and trying to slot someone who either changed her mind
at the last second or they just changed the order.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It was all over the wire that it was likely
Beyonce going to perform, So this doesn't come out of nowhere.
And I agree with both of you that it sounds
like something went awry.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We may never know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This is speculation on my part, but it's not completely
uninformed speculation because you just compare it to other conventions,
other nights in this convention, other nights in the Republican
National Convention. It doesn't make sense when you had the
DNC and all the high powered musical guests that they
(11:13):
don't employ that same strategy leading into the presidential nominee.
When you did it for the vice presidential nominee, and
it was done for both the vice presidential and presidential
nominee for the Republicans, it just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Heck, I have had to change the order of concerts
are produced wherein we were waiting for a specific act
to arrive, didn't have them there on site and had
to say who is here ready to go in the wings,
and have had to make those changes last minute. So
I know how quickly things can change on the dime
when you're doing a show. Heck, even when we were
broadcasting from Politic Con and we had you know, it
(11:51):
was which guest is ready to go at that moment?
At that moment, who do we have next ready to go?
Bring them on? And that's just how sometimes you have
to go.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But I what still is confounding to me to think
that the fail safe was Roy Cooper. It's like, just
so hypothetically, Beyonce, thank you, I.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Got it right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You know, I don't think that when they were mapping
this out that I'll say, the designated survivor in the
event that it all falls apart, that Roy Cooper was
going to step up on stage. I don't think that
was the one. I think something happened that no one
foresaw and they were scrambling, and that guy is like,
who do we have that's in the house, who can
(12:31):
give us four minutes off the top of his head.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
They could have gone with Governor k Newsom, who's you know,
who's familiar with her, who knows There's a lot of
people that were in the crowd.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
They were pulled up.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was he there tonight? Okay, well, yeah, that would have
made more sense. At least there's a California, TI. And
I just don't see how they ended up with Royle, I.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Mean a real familiarity, because from what we're watching this,
we're like, so you two know each other how Yeah,
I didn't hear.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Much of the speech, but I don't know how it
connected on any level.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't know. I don't from what I heard, I
don't think they he.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Even knew her all that well personally now, because he
was talking about a time when they were both working
on some housing initiative, and you know that that's not
a personal attitude to each other in the hall and say, hey,
I'm working on that too, So now let me bring
her up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What. Yeah, And I don't know if that Oh, before
I forget, this is something I did want to make
a comment on. And Mark Ronner, you told me something
that I didn't know. I didn't know that that was
streamed live via Twitch. That's for the young folks, right,
people younger than us, No, I mean really young. We're
talking about gamers for the most part.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Gamers, streamers folks who probably have zero connection whatsoever to
presidential politics. They're not just generally checking for a national
convention for a political party What it says to me
is they are really really comprehensive the Democrats in this
(13:57):
regard to making some sort of connection. Remember, we're talking
about finding those points of commonality, making those points of
connection with a much younger demographic.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's not just this election. It's about developing future voters.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's one thing to have them vote for one election
in one year, but you want them to vote for you, your
party for successive elections, for the midterms of twenty twenty six,
the next election in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah, we'd like you to take a break from Grand
Theft Auto five and listen to this speech for what
forty minutes?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Look, does it cost anything to stream?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Did they get thousands of viewers?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, I don't know the numbers, but I'm quite sure
they got thousands of viewers just out of curiosity. So
as far as I'm concerned, it's free publicity and now
you'll see everybody doing it. It's another platform that you
can get your message out.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Don't correct me again if I'm wrong. I think some
of the R ANDC went out on if I'm not mistaken.
So these are new ways in which political parties are
using that digital space to transform how they talk to
different demographics.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're not going to only rely.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
On a television broadcast. Look, if I'm twenty four years
old grand Theft Auto, I am not watching NBC no
disrespect to watch a political convention for two hours to
hopefully see Kamala Harris for fifty minutes of it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't know what happening, But what is their technology?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Can you have like a little window with the speech
while you're still playing the League of Legends? Or do
you have to pick one or the other?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
No? No, you can. You can do picture in a pictures Yeah,
can you do that? Thank you? You can't.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I'm saying they're not checking for it on a
traditional broadcast network.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Speaker 1 (15:52):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
Politics today is so weird, it's almost like it's almost
like it's an extension of who we are personally, Like
we have to have this person win this office because
it's it's part of our our being. Like people are
so invested their personas are so invested with these politicians
(16:23):
they lose sight of just reality. And not a day
goes by I don't know about you, Mark, but not
a day goes by no exaggeration where someone doesn't hit
me on social media at mister mo Kelly, at later
with mo Kelly and try to tell me what I believe,
(16:45):
or tell me that's my job, what my politics are.
And they say, mo You're just a something something something
liberal and it's like and I talked to my liberal
friends and I said, they have no idea who you are.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
That's absolutely no idea. I missed the boring old days.
In fact, somebody I knew in high school just unfriended
me a few days ago on Facebook because I pointed
out that something she posted was deranged propaganda and it
objectively was. There was not a true thing about it.
And I'm not going to tell you what it was
because I don't want to get into both sides thing here.
(17:18):
But I really missed the boring old days when we
this wasn't at the forefront of our minds all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
If anyone actually knew me, they would know I'm a
policy walk. I love getting into the weeds of policy
and talking about the different demographics, which would who would
benefit from this or suffer from that.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Going back to the.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Days of where you'd have these fights on Capitol Hill
and pork which would be put into a bill, and
how that might impact the the national debt. I was
that guy who loved that kind of stuff. All that's
out the window now. There's not a discussion of policy
even in the presidential race right now, not a lot
(18:00):
of policy discussions.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Part of it is strategy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I know why they're doing it, because I study this
all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But now it's just you're just rooting for a side.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's if so and so is running for president, they're evil.
If so and so wants to do this, it must
be inherently wrong because that side is evil. That's where
we are right now, and it's so far from who
I am. And if people actually paid attention to me,
they would know that I don't and have never endorsed
(18:32):
presidential candidates.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I do not donate to candidates or their campaigns. You
picked the wrong week for that time. I know.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Every time I pick up my phone or look at
my email, I am flooded with donation messages.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh I get them all from everyone. It's like I
never signed up for your fricking list? How did you
keep this information?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know? And not a day goes by or someone
says you need to do this. No, I don't know.
You need to tell don't. I had someone hit me
on my Facebook personal Facebook, so on.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Have you talked about Kamala Harrison and why she's ducking
the media? Number one, I don't do leading questions. Number two,
I don't take suggestions or requests. I'm not a DJ
what And Number three, I don't do advocacy political advocacy journalism.
If you actually knew who I was, if you watched
(19:23):
any of the work that I've done on CNN and Spectrum,
I provide political analysis. I answer the questions which are
asked of me. I don't go on there trying to
get people elected. If you ask me a question, like,
for example, if someone asked me and I Mark Thompson
when I did his podcast, The Mark Thompson Show on Wednesday,
(19:45):
I was asked about Kamala Harrison interviews, and then I
gave a whole litany of history of expectations or the
non existent of expectations of political candidates and doing sit
down interviews.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Here's the answer. It's not. It never has been a thing.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
In other words, you don't expect a presidential candidate, who
is I should say, expect to demand a political candidate
to sit down to do a one on one when
they're not even the presidential nominee.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That is a get for the media.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All media outlets would want that, But there's never been
an expectation that just because someone is running for president,
they have to do a sit down.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
If you've actually been.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Following the campaigns as I have, Harris has been doing
interviews after every single campaign event. There are press gaggles
after every single one. The only expectation is that you
have the press follow you on the campaign trail. You
will have reporters embedded with the campaign, and at the
end of each campaign event, the candidate will address the
(20:46):
press and all that is out there.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
This whole idea she hasn't sat down for a one
on one. That SBS well.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
One other thing to point out is that when she
does these gaggles, pay attention to the questions that these
guys are asking her. When they finally get her, it's
like you've been whining about this and you're gonna ask
her that it's some dumb stuff. It's very disappointing our
I think our news media has largely failed us.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
People are just repeating stuff and they number one, Bin Lars.
They don't know how the process works too. They don't
know the history of covering political candidates and what the
actual history was, you know, the norms, the true expectations.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
All this about a one on one.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You wouldn't have a requirement of someone sitting down for
a one on one who's not even officially the nominee.
It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Will she
eventually yes? Is she supposed to beforehand? No, that's that's
something that someone made up, and they take great umbrage
at it. If you've been paying attention to the New
York Times, I really think they they were in high
(21:49):
dudgeon that President Biden did not give them a sit
down interview. Yeah, and that's why, because they want the
get they want the exclusive, and so they're gonna shame
you for not giving them the exclusive.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's how the business works. And and you know, and as.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We go through this political season, I'll explain more of
those things, and then you'll actually know how I feel
about X, Y and Z, as opposed to being told
how I feel about X Y and Z.
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