September 20, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A tearful & cheerful goodbye to KFI’s very own Producer Kiana and Technical Producer Robin…PLUS – A look at the rollout for LA Metro’s new ‘A-Line’ AND a sneak preview of KFI Reporter Michael Monks’ special report covering the sights and sounds of City Hall and the gadflies contained therein - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's Friday camp by A six forty. It's Later with
Mo Keller. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. No
video simulcast tonight, but the party is still going to
be set off. But there is some unfortunate news we
must start the show with. We have two reasons that
we're kind of sad here. On Later with Mo Kelly,
(00:44):
we have our former producer, part time producer. Did you
start with us as an intern, Keiana.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No, I've always been part time producer.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, yeah, but today is your last day. Damn it.
You are for another hour or so.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The producer of Gary and Shannon and you decided to
said this place, I'm out of here. I'm going back
home to friends, Tucky or where we're from.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, you know, Gary and Shannon fed me a bunch
of pickles one day, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Said, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I can't do this torture anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Look, he should be on this show where you have
Nick poblio'keea come in trying to give us pickles, this
and pickle that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's not any better anywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Else but the horror movie.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I got to tell you this to be very serious.
I'm sad to know that you are leaving KFI. I'm
happy for you. I'm proud of you that you're continuing
your entertainment career. If anything you want to share is
up to you. I don't want to tell all your business,
but sometimes you got to go to grow. Yeah, and
your growth is celebrated by all of us. And I
(01:52):
have told you, and I tell everyone else, your success
is our success. So go out there and be successful
and also make all of us look good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh, everybody here at KF. I from Gary Shannon all
the way to you guys. The amount of stuff I'm
taking away from all the shows, from from you guys.
In particular, I spent I don't know how many months
just hanging out here with you guys, helping produce the show.
I truly, truly, I'm so honored that I got to
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work with you guys, and to take that experience up
to Fresno Is is something that that'll I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Replace this, I really can't.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Nothing will ever, because I've made family and friends and
that'll never go away and I'll always I'll always be back.
I'll always be here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Say that I would say if you leave, don't ever
come back, save yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I want to visit.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I want to see everyone. I'm gonna miss the studio
and radio radio is where.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
My heart is.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So you, like Leo would say, Rose, you get on
the door. Yeah, get on the door, Rose, you stay
on the door. Okay, Rose, that's a nice Titanic pull.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But there's also something else and someone else we're sad about.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Robin, who has been filling in for Stephen in recent weeks,
has also decided that she's going to leave us.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And Robin, this is your last show here at KFI.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think tomorrow they'll just say this just yes, this
is it. And is there anything that you'd like to
share about what your future may hold keep it clean?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Honestly, just can't wait to move again. Yeah, we're gonna
be in San Diego and then we're gonna move Oregon.
Oh wow, where are you originally from? Here?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So it's gonna be real sleepy and slower in comparison.
You know that right in Oregon?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Where in Oregon? Probably you have to go to Powell's Books.
Powell's Books, it's the best bookstore in the world. I
actually liked Portland.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
My nephew went to college in Portland at Lewis and Clark,
So I I like Portland.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's just not fast enough for me. I'm okay with
that setting old and it's going to be cold there.
It's just nice cold. Yeah, yes, it is gonna be cold.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sometimes you do get snow and rain and you're required
by law to buy a chocolate lab.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Will you have any pets?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I have three cats. Cat.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You'll also need a super if you don't already have one.
You okay, all right, close enough.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So what's gonna happen with your motorcycle? It's okay, Well,
look I've only known the motorcycle. I don't know the Prius.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, I usually have the Prius on the weekends. Yeah,
it will be kind of hard for you to uber
on the motorcycle. I just thought about that.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah. Yeah, it just occurags to me like, wait a minute,
you can't always be on the motorcycle because you had
you uber.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm thinking maybe the you know, could be a wife's car.
I don't know, you know that is her, ok. I'm
trying to get in their business like that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So it's a sad occasion, but it's also a happy occasion.
I wish you both, Kenna Robin, nothing but the best,
much success. And I always say, if you go out
and do great things, it makes us look really really
good to go out there and do great things. And
Canna don't come back here, don't don't just.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Can I visit?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, no, no, no no. Once you get out of the pit,
you don't go back.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
To the pit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh can I just wave?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's like from.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Always remember Bane, you don't go back into the pit.
That's right, save yourself. Yeah, did Conan go back to
the wheel of pain?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, you leave and don't look back, like you know
Lot's wife turned assault.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Don't don't look back. That's a biblical reference.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Coming up on the show, we also have a Metro
update in the next segment, and it's not all bad news.
No one got stabbed, no one got shot, no one
got run over. There's a new a line extension we're
going to tell you about. And at the bottom of
the hour, Michael Monks has a special report from city Hall.
We'll have that for you when we come back. Metro update.
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K if I am six forty We'll live everywhere in
the i Iceartradio app.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gafis Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. There's no video simulcast tonight, just good old
KFI AM six forty and the iHeartRadio app. And as
much as I usually talk mess about Metro, here's the truth.
I wish Metro was as good as advertised. I wish
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we had a functional mass transit system that was safe
and was clean and dependable.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I would use it every day.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If it were all those things, I would much rather
get out of my car because I used to take
Metro every day, and time wise is about the same.
But I didn't have to really do anything. I could
do something, you know, prepare for the show. I could
work on my computer whatever that was pre internet. Now
they have internet in the different subway stations and on
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the trains.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I could get much more done.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But I would not feel comfortable taking a laptop or
any type of valuables, not paying attention to my surroundings,
and being on the train hour an hour and a
half each way each day. I wish I could. There
are some things that they're doing which I do approve
of their expanding metro. And today it was the official
(08:23):
opening of the new A line extension in San Gabriel Valley.
I'm talking about cities of Glendora, San Dimas, Laverne, and
Pomona now can connect you to the full metro system.
That's going to help a lot of people who live
in the valley, who may work downtown or work in
the beach cities, and they have a way to get there.
(08:44):
That is all good. And hey, Mark, you may get
a kick out of this. They had a ribbon cutting
ceremony today and Will Wheaton at Yeah, that's right, that's cool.
He served as the event MC from Star Trek to Metro.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I kind of wish i'd been there. Well, you could have.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's about choices. You have to better, you know, regulate
your time.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
No, No, I had important work to do for your show. Mo,
what do you do for my show other than sleep?
At that time of the day, I had a movie
to go to. Oh what is in a runner report?
Very quickly we're going to talk about him. Oh I
want to see that. I mean, we'll give you the
job later, did I just ruin it?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I did want to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, there's your runner report right there.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Goodnight. Back from the digression.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Anyhow, Metro gave an opportunity for folks like you and me,
if you were out there today, to explore the four
new stations, the Pomona Station, Laverne Slash, Pomona Fairplex, San Dimas,
and Glendore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
They called it the Rock the Rails event.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They had DJ's live local food trucks all from the area,
and regular service began earlier today at noon.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So this is now fully operational.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And this took about I don't know, six or seven years,
if I'm not mistaken, to get this portion done. It
was one point five billion dollars and it adds nine
point one miles to the forty eight mile metro A
line all together. Look, when I got back from college,
and this is the early nineties, like ninety one, they
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were still dreaming of a metro system. You know, I
think they might have begun boring some of the tunnels,
but it was not operational. And to see it over
the past thirty four years or so grow into this, Yeah,
it's pretty commendable. It's just deteriorated into a cesspool of urine,
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homeless people, drugs, and crime. If they can get rid
of that, I'd be all the way on board. Honestly,
my wife would be using it. I would be using it,
and I would have no problem recommending anyone else to
use it. But you know someone's gonna get stabbed tomorrow
or tonight, or shot or.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Killed or already. You say tonight, Well, yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I haven't reported it yet, hasn't gotten to our desk yet.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But you know, no, this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's just I temper my enthusiasm with the acknowledgment that
things have to be better on the totality of the Metro,
not just a new portion of the Metro. No, but
I would give up my car instantaneously if I knew
it was viable. When I was in college, I did
nothing but ride the DC Metro, which is probably the
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gold standard within at least this country. Nothing compares to
the DC Metro Washington DC Metro. And it's not because, well,
I should say, it's not only because you have members
of Congress, you have very important people who will ride
the trains. It's just better managed to have their own
police force. It's always kept clean, and it's always ready
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to host dignitaries whoever might use it, and it takes
you everywhere you need to go.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You can go to both airports.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean that's a DC National Airport, Reagan National Airport,
and also Dulles which is just in Virginia. But you
can get wherever you need to go in the DMV.
That's DC Maryland Virginia by the DC Metro. And I
wish they would be like that out here, but we
don't have the same focus or emphasis on mass transit.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's almost like we would rather be in our cars.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I get that because LA is so spread out,
hence the need to expand the A line, hence the
need for Metro to take us to the airport. If
it could do more of the things that we need,
maybe we would be more inclined to actually use the
Metro more often. Look, if they could go six months
without someone getting stabbed, I may change my tune. But
(13:08):
six months is a hell of a long time, Okay.
I don't know if we'll be able to go six
weeks without someone getting shanked.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, you need one of those signs like they have
in public places, like X number of days without a
workplace accident, and if you get up to six months,
then you're good to go.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, it's not going to happen. Okay, what is today?
Today is September nineteenth. I'm told in December January, favor March. Okay,
so we're talking about can'n give six days? Look, it
might be six minutes. Okay, we might get the alert soon.
I'm searching, I'm looking right now. I'm like, let me
just do it. There's no way we're going to make
it to March without a stabbing on Metro. But but
(13:46):
if we do, I'm making a promise now, and it'll
be on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We can refer to it in perpetuity.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If we can make it till March and no one
gets stabbed on Metro, I will start writing Metro again.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Now, is this a one time thing or you're going
to restart the clock every time someone gets shanked? No?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, no, this is a one time only off.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh okay, if someone gets shanked and shived between now
and March nineteenth, Nope, that's off.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
If no one gets shanked, I'll ride Metro again. I
think that's fair. I think that's fair. I'm giving you
the opportunity, Metro to prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think you're gonna be safe. I am.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not worried about it. Someone's getting shanked before the
weekends out. It's laid with mokel. We have a very
special report from Michael Monks when we come back. He
went inside City Hall, imagine that, and brought us to
sites and sounds of what goes on at the city
council meetings. And you would be surprised, or maybe you
wouldn't be, but you might be surprised that what he heard.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That is next you're.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
AM six forty Later with Mochella. We're live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app and kfi's own Michael Monks. Dare to
go downtown to see what actually happens at City Hall
in a city council meeting, and it might just blow
your mind.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Los Angeles City Hall is an Art Deco architectural landmark,
rising from the ground in nineteen twenty eight. It stoo
does the tallest building in the city for forty years
and it remains the seat of the city government. Its
ornate Spanish influenced accents feature words of patriotism, justice, and responsibility.
To walk around the building, the days of La passed,
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especially civic minded La from decades ago, seemed to whisper
through the trees and the surrounding park with its quieted fountain.
Inside there is still the echo of a hard bottom
shoe clapping against the marble floor tiles, and the quiet
and charming ting of the classic elevators taking people to
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their offices or citizens to deal with government. By all assumptions,
this is simply a beautiful landmark government building in one
of the world's great cities. But there is one room
that betrays the century old serenity that shields it from
the bustle of downtown LA. Which item said, do you
want to speak to What do you think I'm going
(16:21):
to talk you tumbass?
Speaker 9 (16:23):
What do you think?
Speaker 10 (16:24):
All the dumbass items and the dumbass general comment Okay.
Speaker 11 (16:36):
This person with the ponytail in the back yelling you're
removed from this meeting They.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
About providing foreign born citizenship.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Citizenship the city Council Chamber, where important laws are made,
debates and conversations are held, neighborhood leaders, high school softball teams,
civic bastions are honored, and where a regular cast of
gangflies lives to terrorize the expected decorum.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Nikoo Young Ninji Ninching the the Guchu Danela Transomungjong Nagashin
tend me Jun Sen Song Song Soo, a man.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Who goes by the name Shrimp, often shows up in
mumus or offensive T shirts, and while he used to
spend much of his time at the podium detailing his
supposed exploits with prostitutes on Figaroa Street, he has since
turned to singing in various Asian languages. He guesses the
council powers that be can't understand them. You believe in
the freedom of speech. You clearly believe in the freedom
(17:37):
of singing as well. You've decided to start singing. A
lot of your comments directed at the city council. Tell
me what the purpose of that is.
Speaker 12 (17:44):
They almost never never listen. They almost never never listened
to you. So I was thinking, Hey, can I come
out with a different idea. Let's can I just grab
their attention? Maybe maybe you know, if I can do
something that they can actually listen, they can actually consider
about my eye.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yeah, he's not the only one who regularly appears at
city Hall opting for a performance.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is Hollywood after.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
All, Nick, Yeah, Ramen is that chair whoa of the
Homelessness Committee?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Whoa Yeah, but I don't think she.
Speaker 12 (18:13):
Really does care no for the anhoused in the city.
Speaker 13 (18:16):
No way, Lakhan raised cancer.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Obviously, Herman Spindler was using profanity. That method special method
doesn't work. So hullball singing, So you know it's not singing, Like,
let's try an opera.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I know it's not opera. Let's try whatever, Shrimp says.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
His approach is different than Herman and Spindler, two of
the more notorious gadflies at city Hall.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
Asta pata nagado estal.
Speaker 10 (18:43):
In English Sernandez all her eight now number fifteen.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Wayne Spindler has long gray hair and unkempt appearance and
a devil's tongue. He always lashes at the members of
city Council. But he is also an attorney.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
And what I want to do is I'm gonna use
your own instrument tenency to defund you because I got
something I found out you don't know.
Speaker 14 (19:12):
And what am I talking about? What am I talking about?
Tell me what I'm talking about? What is the problem
with that motion?
Speaker 13 (19:23):
I want to hear talk.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To your lawyer.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
He regularly threatens a forthcoming legal action, especially targeting this
newly approved city ordinance aimed directly at some of the gameflies.
It's when he himself was punished by just recently crazy
in a.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
We are the Gods date.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What you want is to have California Police pause the
speriod of time.
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Speaker, you have used a derivation of the inward, which
is in violation of Rule seven.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
The racism and sexism spewed towards city officials had become
so frequent the city count voted to ban the in word,
frequently aimed at black members, in the C word, which
is usually aimed at women members. Spindler, who used to
talk Offen through a hand puppet, had promised at the
time not to return.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
You pass this motion.
Speaker 13 (20:13):
I'm not coming back here again with my puppet. No
more fowl language. I'm putting out a suit in time.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm gonna put me on some nurse love us.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
But he did and received the requisite penalty, a warning
from Council President marquisse Harris Dawson.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
This is your only warning that use of this word,
in any of its variations, including spelling it as described
in Rule seven, may not be used again in this
council meeting, any council meeting in the future, or Council
Committee Union meeting. If you violate the rule again, you
will forfeit your speaking time and be subject to removal
from this chamber.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You've fallen in the trap little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Other insults, though regularly used by some of the gadflies,
still fly with abandon see.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Hugo, something worse, mony cow and because she's looking, what
am I going to do about that band?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And when am I gonna make my move on that band?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But the inward and the sea word are now no nos.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
Niga can not with yeah a dirty because of the terminology.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Armande Hermann has particular affection for those words during meetings,
where he also often holds up pro Trump messages or
Nazi symbols.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Are you racist? No, I'm not. Why do you come here?
Why do you behave the way you do with these meetings?
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well, you have to use the first Amendment first of
all to have debate, and debate means that you have
to have two sides to what you're trying to accomplish.
I think I'm opening the doors for many by bringing
them to the attention of what's happening here, not just
in city Hall, but in many cities. Or our First
Amendments under attack, and we're under a political war now
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for free speech and freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
What role does the inn word and the sea word
play in that?
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Well, you hear it in music, You watch movies with
the terminology. So one man's words of vulgarity is scary,
but yet one man's words of vulgarity are free speech.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Herman is not a lawyer, but he's learned the laws,
including a landmark Supreme Court decision related to inflammatory speech
and the government.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Why I use the words because Brandenberg versus Ohio is
a case in which I emphasize a lot. I amplify
Supreme Court rulings based on these cases so that people
understand what is free speech and what has been determined
by the Supreme Court is an exercise of your First Amendment.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Shrimp, the mummou wearing singer of Asian opera songs at
City Hall. He doesn't use racist words. He doesn't agree
with their use, but he says he understands Spindler's in
Herman's principles.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Are you against the ban on the N word in
the C word generally yes? Generally yes, those words are
something that I they do not a use. But generally
I do believe that that is an overstep of the government.
I do believe that because I am a huge support
of the First Amendment rights.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Because today they put a ban on this ward.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Maybe tomorrow they're gonna ban the war to fuck you,
maybe another one, they're gonna ban the word I don't know,
you know, mother whatever.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Less showy gadflies are also supportive of their fellow city
Hall regulars.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
I have a different approach, so I can't. I know,
they've been doing it a long time. I hear some
of them fifteen years. I believe a lot of them
are just like trying to push their First Amendment rights.
And I believe and they're trying to shake things up
or create But I you know, from when I do
talk to them here, I don't feel they're like trying
to be evil, horrible people. You know, They're trying to
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make a point, and I don't but I don't support
that language.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
At all.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
She goes by the name audit La and her frequent
target isn't any particular member of the City Council. It's Scientology.
Speaker 15 (24:00):
Call to Scientology, that reports are being made and you're
going to have to take it seriously. And just to
let you know that I am not suicidal that if
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
They are, it's very apparent that I'm steering people to
have different views and different understandings of what my beliefs are.
And I'm opening up a door whether or not to
challenge me and question me or mister Bozzetti or anyone
in this group with us.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Is that Hey, we want more.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Free speech and we want our interpretation of it not
to be ruled as a threat or intimidation, but rather
an invite to public debate. Real simple, and thank you
Charlie Kirk, God bless you for now.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
The challenge stands from the gadflies and the leaders at
City Hall. Council leadership believes the ban on the N
word and the C word are legally sound. The gagflies don't.
And three times a week the City Council meets, and
on and on it goes. A First Street First Amendment
side show the words are often ugly, but at least
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the building is lovely, especially outside the council chamber. Michael
Monks KFI News.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And if you listen to Michael Monks this weekend here
on KFI you'll be able to hear his special report again.
It was fantastic the sights and sounds of city Hall
and the gadflies contained therein It's Later with Mo Kelly,
CAFI AM six forty We Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
KFI Later with Mo Kelly, We Live Everywhere and I
Heart Radio App. Last segment.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We had a very well done special report by KFI
Z owned Michael Monks. He braved city Hall with all
the sights and sounds and the weirdos, and now he's
here to tell us why in the hell he did that.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
You know, when you go down to La City Hall
after bring smaller governments in the upland South, it's easy
to understand why someone would be shocked by the language
that is allowed, you know, And I'm I want to
be a free speech guy, right, we're in the media, right,
free speech and all that but like, where's the decorum,
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And it is f bomb after f bomb after f bomb,
and worse than that, it is in word and C
word and direct attacks on folks that it's completely it's
a circus, and it's quite a show.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Look we're Hollywood. It's a show.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Now they've put the kibosh on a couple of those words,
the in word and the C word. The rest of
it still reigns. But this happens at every meeting, and
I thought, I don't think people fully understand what these
meetings look like. So I just wanted to share a
little bit not just of the examples of the bad language,
but who those people.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Are that use those words.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I don't think people even understand what the First Amendment is.
I don't think they understand what free speech is. When
we're talking about free speech, we're saying we're not going
to arrest you for using that language.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But there are still boundaries in the civil society. There
are consequences.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
I think the debate that's happening immediately is who gets
to divvy out the consequences and what is the severity
of those consequences. When you think about an issue like
Jimmy Kimmel, for example. But at city Hall, whether or
not a person attending a meeting can just throw the
inward at the council president, who is a black man,
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they are framing that as a case of First Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Now I wasn't there, and I wouldn't want to be there,
but I would have to assume that they know that
that is not helping their case, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
He to the contrary, says it does. He's challenging them
because they say it's beyond their desire to use those words.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
By the way, he says he's not a racist.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
He's not a racist, even though he holds up swastika
signs and all sorts of things and yells out the nward.
He's not a racist. He's just a free speech absolutist
and feels that the council hinders that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, this is what I recommend for that individual.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I would like for him to have that exact same
debate in Inglewood or lynn Wood and see if it's
received the same way. You have him make that case
and see if his free speech rights are.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Somehow infringed upon.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I'll tell you what's interesting is it's so regular an
occurrence at La City Hall that most of us are desensitized.
You don't even it doesn't even catch your breath. If
someone were to shout the word out at the mall,
you'd look around and think, what's happening at the city
council meeting? You don't even think twice about it. But
this particular man went to a Wittier City council meeting
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I think last week and pulled that stunt and the
whole place shut down for over an hour because they
didn't know how to deal.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
With it well as well it should.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
And when people are just i think, just being hyperbolic
and performative in the demonstrations of where they think the
line is, they're not getting any close or to whatever
their supposed goal is having related to, you know, civic issues.
You know, be trying to get the sidewalks repaired, whatever
the issue may be.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That is not getting you closer to that goal. No,
it doesn't. And that's where I am on this.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Like, there are occasions, and it even pains me to
say this about some of the people who behave in
the most vile manners down there, there are occasions where
they raise a valid issue, whatever the issue may be,
I look at it just subjectively, of course, while I'm
covering the council and thinking it's got a good point,
you know, not just the blatant, flippant racism. But occasionally
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you say, hey, there's not any money for the sidewalks,
for example. That's a valid issue.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I don't want to.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Listen to you anymore if you've spent the previous five
minutes calling people fat and disgusting and this or that,
because I don't think you seriously.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't know a council president Marquise Harris Dawson personally.
He's been a guest on his show. I followed his career.
I have a sense of who he is as a person.
I'm inclined to believe that if if you were to
approach him rhetorically in that manner, he's going to make
a mental note and put you with the bottom of
any list of things to get done.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
He handles it with calm, he does, and I'll tell
you this. He has changed the format of the meetings
in a way that I, personally, editorial if I may editorialize,
enjoy because they take they used to take a lot
of public comment, basically until every single person spoke, and
it's just a circus.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
For the most part.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
There are people who are there with legitimate grievances and
concerns and they're overshadowed.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
By these stunts.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Now he'll put a hard stop, you know, and say
at the beginning, we're taking public comment to you know,
look at the clock a quarter till and that's it,
and no more phone public comment. And that has been
a huge difference. The Board of Supervisors still takes phone
comment and that's why they're board meetings. And this isn't
a joke. Are nine hours long every single week? Oh hails, No,
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let me just ask you this. Mark Runner had a question.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
First, he wanted to know whether you were wearing my
heels are low heels on that marble floor that we heard.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I already told him that, and Michael, I already told
you in person that I thought you did a nice
job on the report. But also as when I was
a reporter I covered my own fair amount of city
council meetings elsewhere, and I thought you did a terrific
job of capturing the let's generously call it the slice
of life that shows up at these some of it's
very performative. I once there was a guy who just
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went berserk in a meeting and I went up to
him to get a quote later and he was like, oh,
did you want me to repeat that without the swearing.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They know what they're doing. They do exactly know what
they're doing. They know a terrific job. But I don't
know what they know. I know they walked their moment
in the sun.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
They have a captive audience, but I don't know because
my wife has worked in city government for many years
and I've seen all the horror stories that you were
basically viewing firsthand, and it's the same. People come out
every single week and they're known by name, and they
know everyone who works in a city, but they almost
never get anything done specifically because of the methods that
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they're choosing.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
You what is it you attract more bees with honey?
That's true. Yeah, I don't know who wants to attract bees,
but but that's it, that's it. Instead they show up
flies and you know, yeah, don't I don't know if
I use that expression. Crew, we're tiptoeing around it. It's late.
I've been here for a long time. Did I say
something wrong?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
No, No, Before you go that you have to tell
us about this ice cream that you brought all over.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Oh yeah, of course, I've been pepping this ice cream
all over the place to wall lights that this is
my spouse and I we are. You know, we have
a little developing dream of maybe having little ice cream
shops someday, and so we've been experimenting with a test
kitchen in our home. And this flavor that you were
tasting now is my world famous soon to be salted
caramel butter cream.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I made the caramel. Oh, he made the caramel and
made the ice cream. We mixed it together. We should
call it like monkey cream or something.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
We have.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
We have a flavor called a monkey monkey something. Gosh,
but it has the banana and the and the nuts
and monkey snacks.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's really really good.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And I'm not saying that just to gash you up,
because I'm eating it in the studio right now.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It's gobs of caramel.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
And you know why, because when you get a caramel
ice cream and at a store it's got some thin,
pitiful little line of caramel in it, you gotta go
hunting for it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
This one, the caramel goes hunting for you. So We're
just gonna ignore that. Ignore what banana and nuts?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
All right?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Are you maybing a joke about anatomy?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
She's on the way out. She thinks she didn't say
whatever she wants. She's already drop some f bobs, not
dumping up. She'll be she'll be at city hall, drop
fire me.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We gotta go to break though. But I tell you
that there's no telling what's going to happen the rest
of the show. It might turn into a city council.
That's why I gotta get out of here. I'm done.
I'm clocking out. Thanks for running that for me.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Absolutely. It's laid with Mokelly Kiff, I AM and forty
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Speaker 7 (33:54):
Appy and KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange County more stimulating,
It's Friday camp by A six forty. It's Later with
Mo Keller. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. No
video simulcast tonight, but the party is still going to
be set off. But there is some unfortunate news we
must start the show with. We have two reasons that
we're kind of sad here. On Later with Mo Kelly,
(00:44):
we have our former producer, part time producer. Did you
start with us as an intern, Keiana.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No, I've always been part time producer.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, yeah, but today is your last day. Damn it.
You are for another hour or so.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The producer of Gary and Shannon and you decided to
said this place, I'm out of here. I'm going back
home to friends, Tucky or where we're from.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, you know, Gary and Shannon fed me a bunch
of pickles one day, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Said, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I can't do this torture anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Look, he should be on this show where you have
Nick poblio'keea come in trying to give us pickles, this
and pickle that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's not any better anywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Else but the horror movie.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I got to tell you this to be very serious.
I'm sad to know that you are leaving KFI. I'm
happy for you. I'm proud of you that you're continuing
your entertainment career. If anything you want to share is
up to you. I don't want to tell all your business,
but sometimes you got to go to grow. Yeah, and
your growth is celebrated by all of us. And I
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have told you, and I tell everyone else, your success
is our success. So go out there and be successful
and also make all of us look good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh, everybody here at KF. I from Gary Shannon all
the way to you guys. The amount of stuff I'm
taking away from all the shows, from from you guys.
In particular, I spent I don't know how many months
just hanging out here with you guys, helping produce the show.
I truly, truly, I'm so honored that I got to
(02:26):
work with you guys, and to take that experience up
to Fresno Is is something that that'll I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Replace this, I really can't.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Nothing will ever, because I've made family and friends and
that'll never go away and I'll always I'll always be back.
I'll always be here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Say that I would say if you leave, don't ever
come back, save yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I want to visit.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I want to see everyone. I'm gonna miss the studio
and radio radio is where.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
My heart is.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So you, like Leo would say, Rose, you get on
the door. Yeah, get on the door, Rose, you stay
on the door. Okay, Rose, that's a nice Titanic pull.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But there's also something else and someone else we're sad about.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Robin, who has been filling in for Stephen in recent weeks,
has also decided that she's going to leave us.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And Robin, this is your last show here at KFI.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think tomorrow they'll just say this just yes, this
is it. And is there anything that you'd like to
share about what your future may hold keep it clean?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Honestly, just can't wait to move again. Yeah, we're gonna
be in San Diego and then we're gonna move Oregon.
Oh wow, where are you originally from? Here?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So it's gonna be real sleepy and slower in comparison.
You know that right in Oregon?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Where in Oregon? Probably you have to go to Powell's Books.
Powell's Books, it's the best bookstore in the world. I
actually liked Portland.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
My nephew went to college in Portland at Lewis and Clark,
So I I like Portland.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's just not fast enough for me. I'm okay with
that setting old and it's going to be cold there.
It's just nice cold. Yeah, yes, it is gonna be cold.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sometimes you do get snow and rain and you're required
by law to buy a chocolate lab.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Will you have any pets?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I have three cats. Cat.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You'll also need a super if you don't already have one.
You okay, all right, close enough.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So what's gonna happen with your motorcycle? It's okay, Well,
look I've only known the motorcycle. I don't know the Prius.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, I usually have the Prius on the weekends. Yeah,
it will be kind of hard for you to uber
on the motorcycle. I just thought about that.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah. Yeah, it just occurags to me like, wait a minute,
you can't always be on the motorcycle because you had
you uber.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I'm thinking maybe the you know, could be a wife's car.
I don't know, you know that is her, ok. I'm
trying to get in their business like that.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So it's a sad occasion, but it's also a happy occasion.
I wish you both, Kenna Robin, nothing but the best,
much success. And I always say, if you go out
and do great things, it makes us look really really
good to go out there and do great things. And
Canna don't come back here, don't don't just.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Can I visit?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, no, no, no no. Once you get out of the pit,
you don't go back.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
To the pit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh can I just wave?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's like from.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Always remember Bane, you don't go back into the pit.
That's right, save yourself. Yeah, did Conan go back to
the wheel of pain?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, you leave and don't look back, like you know
Lot's wife turned assault.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Don't don't look back. That's a biblical reference.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Coming up on the show, we also have a Metro
update in the next segment, and it's not all bad news.
No one got stabbed, no one got shot, no one
got run over. There's a new a line extension we're
going to tell you about. And at the bottom of
the hour, Michael Monks has a special report from city Hall.
We'll have that for you when we come back. Metro update.
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K if I am six forty We'll live everywhere in
the i Iceartradio app.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gafis Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. There's no video simulcast tonight, just good old
KFI AM six forty and the iHeartRadio app. And as
much as I usually talk mess about Metro, here's the truth.
I wish Metro was as good as advertised. I wish
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we had a functional mass transit system that was safe
and was clean and dependable.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I would use it every day.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
If it were all those things, I would much rather
get out of my car because I used to take
Metro every day, and time wise is about the same.
But I didn't have to really do anything. I could
do something, you know, prepare for the show. I could
work on my computer whatever that was pre internet. Now
they have internet in the different subway stations and on
(07:56):
the trains.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I could get much more done.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But I would not feel comfortable taking a laptop or
any type of valuables, not paying attention to my surroundings,
and being on the train hour an hour and a
half each way each day. I wish I could. There
are some things that they're doing which I do approve
of their expanding metro. And today it was the official
(08:23):
opening of the new A line extension in San Gabriel Valley.
I'm talking about cities of Glendora, San Dimas, Laverne, and
Pomona now can connect you to the full metro system.
That's going to help a lot of people who live
in the valley, who may work downtown or work in
the beach cities, and they have a way to get there.
(08:44):
That is all good. And hey, Mark, you may get
a kick out of this. They had a ribbon cutting
ceremony today and Will Wheaton at Yeah, that's right, that's cool.
He served as the event MC from Star Trek to Metro.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I kind of wish i'd been there. Well, you could have.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's about choices. You have to better, you know, regulate
your time.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
No, No, I had important work to do for your show. Mo,
what do you do for my show other than sleep?
At that time of the day, I had a movie
to go to. Oh what is in a runner report?
Very quickly we're going to talk about him. Oh I
want to see that. I mean, we'll give you the
job later, did I just ruin it?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I did want to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, there's your runner report right there.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Goodnight. Back from the digression.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Anyhow, Metro gave an opportunity for folks like you and me,
if you were out there today, to explore the four
new stations, the Pomona Station, Laverne Slash, Pomona Fairplex, San Dimas,
and Glendore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
They called it the Rock the Rails event.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They had DJ's live local food trucks all from the area,
and regular service began earlier today at noon.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So this is now fully operational.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And this took about I don't know, six or seven years,
if I'm not mistaken, to get this portion done. It
was one point five billion dollars and it adds nine
point one miles to the forty eight mile metro A
line all together. Look, when I got back from college,
and this is the early nineties, like ninety one, they
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were still dreaming of a metro system. You know, I
think they might have begun boring some of the tunnels,
but it was not operational. And to see it over
the past thirty four years or so grow into this, Yeah,
it's pretty commendable. It's just deteriorated into a cesspool of urine,
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homeless people, drugs, and crime. If they can get rid
of that, I'd be all the way on board. Honestly,
my wife would be using it. I would be using it,
and I would have no problem recommending anyone else to
use it. But you know someone's gonna get stabbed tomorrow
or tonight, or shot or.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Killed or already. You say tonight, Well, yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I haven't reported it yet, hasn't gotten to our desk yet.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But you know, no, this is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's just I temper my enthusiasm with the acknowledgment that
things have to be better on the totality of the Metro,
not just a new portion of the Metro. No, but
I would give up my car instantaneously if I knew
it was viable. When I was in college, I did
nothing but ride the DC Metro, which is probably the
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gold standard within at least this country. Nothing compares to
the DC Metro Washington DC Metro. And it's not because, well,
I should say, it's not only because you have members
of Congress, you have very important people who will ride
the trains. It's just better managed to have their own
police force. It's always kept clean, and it's always ready
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to host dignitaries whoever might use it, and it takes
you everywhere you need to go.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You can go to both airports.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean that's a DC National Airport, Reagan National Airport,
and also Dulles which is just in Virginia. But you
can get wherever you need to go in the DMV.
That's DC Maryland Virginia by the DC Metro. And I
wish they would be like that out here, but we
don't have the same focus or emphasis on mass transit.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's almost like we would rather be in our cars.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I get that because LA is so spread out,
hence the need to expand the A line, hence the
need for Metro to take us to the airport. If
it could do more of the things that we need,
maybe we would be more inclined to actually use the
Metro more often. Look, if they could go six months
without someone getting stabbed, I may change my tune. But
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six months is a hell of a long time, Okay.
I don't know if we'll be able to go six
weeks without someone getting shanked.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, you need one of those signs like they have
in public places, like X number of days without a
workplace accident, and if you get up to six months,
then you're good to go.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, it's not going to happen. Okay, what is today?
Today is September nineteenth. I'm told in December January, favor March. Okay,
so we're talking about can'n give six days? Look, it
might be six minutes. Okay, we might get the alert soon.
I'm searching, I'm looking right now. I'm like, let me
just do it. There's no way we're going to make
it to March without a stabbing on Metro. But but
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if we do, I'm making a promise now, and it'll
be on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We can refer to it in perpetuity.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If we can make it till March and no one
gets stabbed on Metro, I will start writing Metro again.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Now, is this a one time thing or you're going
to restart the clock every time someone gets shanked? No?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, no, this is a one time only off.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh okay, if someone gets shanked and shived between now
and March nineteenth, Nope, that's off.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
If no one gets shanked, I'll ride Metro again. I
think that's fair. I think that's fair. I'm giving you
the opportunity, Metro to prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think you're gonna be safe. I am.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm not worried about it. Someone's getting shanked before the
weekends out. It's laid with mokel. We have a very
special report from Michael Monks when we come back. He
went inside City Hall, imagine that, and brought us to
sites and sounds of what goes on at the city
council meetings. And you would be surprised, or maybe you
wouldn't be, but you might be surprised that what he heard.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That is next you're.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
AM six forty Later with Mochella. We're live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app and kfi's own Michael Monks. Dare to
go downtown to see what actually happens at City Hall
in a city council meeting, and it might just blow
your mind.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Los Angeles City Hall is an Art Deco architectural landmark,
rising from the ground in nineteen twenty eight. It stoo
does the tallest building in the city for forty years
and it remains the seat of the city government. Its
ornate Spanish influenced accents feature words of patriotism, justice, and responsibility.
To walk around the building, the days of La passed,
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especially civic minded La from decades ago, seemed to whisper
through the trees and the surrounding park with its quieted fountain.
Inside there is still the echo of a hard bottom
shoe clapping against the marble floor tiles, and the quiet
and charming ting of the classic elevators taking people to
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their offices or citizens to deal with government. By all assumptions,
this is simply a beautiful landmark government building in one
of the world's great cities. But there is one room
that betrays the century old serenity that shields it from
the bustle of downtown LA. Which item said, do you
want to speak to What do you think I'm going
(16:21):
to talk you tumbass?
Speaker 9 (16:23):
What do you think?
Speaker 10 (16:24):
All the dumbass items and the dumbass general comment Okay.
Speaker 11 (16:36):
This person with the ponytail in the back yelling you're
removed from this meeting They.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
About providing foreign born citizenship.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Citizenship the city Council Chamber, where important laws are made,
debates and conversations are held, neighborhood leaders, high school softball teams,
civic bastions are honored, and where a regular cast of
gangflies lives to terrorize the expected decorum.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Nikoo Young Ninji Ninching the the Guchu Danela Transomungjong Nagashin
tend me Jun Sen Song Song Soo, a man.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Who goes by the name Shrimp, often shows up in
mumus or offensive T shirts, and while he used to
spend much of his time at the podium detailing his
supposed exploits with prostitutes on Figaroa Street, he has since
turned to singing in various Asian languages. He guesses the
council powers that be can't understand them. You believe in
the freedom of speech. You clearly believe in the freedom
(17:37):
of singing as well. You've decided to start singing. A
lot of your comments directed at the city council. Tell
me what the purpose of that is.
Speaker 12 (17:44):
They almost never never listen. They almost never never listened
to you. So I was thinking, Hey, can I come
out with a different idea. Let's can I just grab
their attention? Maybe maybe you know, if I can do
something that they can actually listen, they can actually consider
about my eye.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yeah, he's not the only one who regularly appears at
city Hall opting for a performance.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
This is Hollywood after.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
All, Nick, Yeah, Ramen is that chair whoa of the
Homelessness Committee?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Whoa Yeah, but I don't think she.
Speaker 12 (18:13):
Really does care no for the anhoused in the city.
Speaker 13 (18:16):
No way, Lakhan raised cancer.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Obviously, Herman Spindler was using profanity. That method special method
doesn't work. So hullball singing, So you know it's not singing, Like,
let's try an opera.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I know it's not opera. Let's try whatever, Shrimp says.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
His approach is different than Herman and Spindler, two of
the more notorious gadflies at city Hall.
Speaker 14 (18:38):
Asta pata nagado estal.
Speaker 10 (18:43):
In English Sernandez all her eight now number fifteen.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Wayne Spindler has long gray hair and unkempt appearance and
a devil's tongue. He always lashes at the members of
city Council. But he is also an attorney.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
And what I want to do is I'm gonna use
your own instrument tenency to defund you because I got
something I found out you don't know.
Speaker 14 (19:12):
And what am I talking about? What am I talking about?
Tell me what I'm talking about? What is the problem
with that motion?
Speaker 13 (19:23):
I want to hear talk.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To your lawyer.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
He regularly threatens a forthcoming legal action, especially targeting this
newly approved city ordinance aimed directly at some of the gameflies.
It's when he himself was punished by just recently crazy
in a.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
We are the Gods date.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What you want is to have California Police pause the
speriod of time.
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Speaker, you have used a derivation of the inward, which
is in violation of Rule seven.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
The racism and sexism spewed towards city officials had become
so frequent the city count voted to ban the in word,
frequently aimed at black members, in the C word, which
is usually aimed at women members. Spindler, who used to
talk Offen through a hand puppet, had promised at the
time not to return.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
You pass this motion.
Speaker 13 (20:13):
I'm not coming back here again with my puppet. No
more fowl language. I'm putting out a suit in time.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm gonna put me on some nurse love us.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
But he did and received the requisite penalty, a warning
from Council President marquisse Harris Dawson.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
This is your only warning that use of this word,
in any of its variations, including spelling it as described
in Rule seven, may not be used again in this
council meeting, any council meeting in the future, or Council
Committee Union meeting. If you violate the rule again, you
will forfeit your speaking time and be subject to removal
from this chamber.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You've fallen in the trap little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Other insults, though regularly used by some of the gadflies,
still fly with abandon see.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Hugo, something worse, mony cow and because she's looking, what
am I going to do about that band?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And when am I gonna make my move on that band?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
But the inward and the sea word are now no nos.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
Niga can not with yeah a dirty because of the terminology.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Armande Hermann has particular affection for those words during meetings,
where he also often holds up pro Trump messages or
Nazi symbols.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Are you racist? No, I'm not. Why do you come here?
Why do you behave the way you do with these meetings?
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well, you have to use the first Amendment first of
all to have debate, and debate means that you have
to have two sides to what you're trying to accomplish.
I think I'm opening the doors for many by bringing
them to the attention of what's happening here, not just
in city Hall, but in many cities. Or our First
Amendments under attack, and we're under a political war now
(21:51):
for free speech and freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
What role does the inn word and the sea word
play in that?
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Well, you hear it in music, You watch movies with
the terminology. So one man's words of vulgarity is scary,
but yet one man's words of vulgarity are free speech.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Herman is not a lawyer, but he's learned the laws,
including a landmark Supreme Court decision related to inflammatory speech
and the government.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Why I use the words because Brandenberg versus Ohio is
a case in which I emphasize a lot. I amplify
Supreme Court rulings based on these cases so that people
understand what is free speech and what has been determined
by the Supreme Court is an exercise of your First Amendment.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Shrimp, the mummou wearing singer of Asian opera songs at
City Hall. He doesn't use racist words. He doesn't agree
with their use, but he says he understands Spindler's in
Herman's principles.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Are you against the ban on the N word in
the C word generally yes? Generally yes, those words are
something that I they do not a use. But generally
I do believe that that is an overstep of the government.
I do believe that because I am a huge support
of the First Amendment rights.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Because today they put a ban on this ward.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Maybe tomorrow they're gonna ban the war to fuck you,
maybe another one, they're gonna ban the word I don't know,
you know, mother whatever.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Less showy gadflies are also supportive of their fellow city
Hall regulars.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
I have a different approach, so I can't. I know,
they've been doing it a long time. I hear some
of them fifteen years. I believe a lot of them
are just like trying to push their First Amendment rights.
And I believe and they're trying to shake things up
or create But I you know, from when I do
talk to them here, I don't feel they're like trying
to be evil, horrible people. You know, They're trying to
(23:49):
make a point, and I don't but I don't support
that language.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
At all.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
She goes by the name audit La and her frequent
target isn't any particular member of the City Council. It's Scientology.
Speaker 15 (24:00):
Call to Scientology, that reports are being made and you're
going to have to take it seriously. And just to
let you know that I am not suicidal that if
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
They are, it's very apparent that I'm steering people to
have different views and different understandings of what my beliefs are.
And I'm opening up a door whether or not to
challenge me and question me or mister Bozzetti or anyone
in this group with us.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Is that Hey, we want more.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Free speech and we want our interpretation of it not
to be ruled as a threat or intimidation, but rather
an invite to public debate. Real simple, and thank you
Charlie Kirk, God bless you for now.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
The challenge stands from the gadflies and the leaders at
City Hall. Council leadership believes the ban on the N
word and the C word are legally sound. The gagflies don't.
And three times a week the City Council meets, and
on and on it goes. A First Street First Amendment
side show the words are often ugly, but at least
(25:05):
the building is lovely, especially outside the council chamber. Michael
Monks KFI News.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And if you listen to Michael Monks this weekend here
on KFI you'll be able to hear his special report again.
It was fantastic the sights and sounds of city Hall
and the gadflies contained therein It's Later with Mo Kelly,
CAFI AM six forty We Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
KFI Later with Mo Kelly, We Live Everywhere and I
Heart Radio App. Last segment.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We had a very well done special report by KFI
Z owned Michael Monks. He braved city Hall with all
the sights and sounds and the weirdos, and now he's
here to tell us why in the hell he did that.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
You know, when you go down to La City Hall
after bring smaller governments in the upland South, it's easy
to understand why someone would be shocked by the language
that is allowed, you know, And I'm I want to
be a free speech guy, right, we're in the media, right,
free speech and all that but like, where's the decorum,
(26:17):
And it is f bomb after f bomb after f bomb,
and worse than that, it is in word and C
word and direct attacks on folks that it's completely it's
a circus, and it's quite a show.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Look we're Hollywood. It's a show.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Now they've put the kibosh on a couple of those words,
the in word and the C word. The rest of
it still reigns. But this happens at every meeting, and
I thought, I don't think people fully understand what these
meetings look like. So I just wanted to share a
little bit not just of the examples of the bad language,
but who those people.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Are that use those words.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I don't think people even understand what the First Amendment is.
I don't think they understand what free speech is. When
we're talking about free speech, we're saying we're not going
to arrest you for using that language.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But there are still boundaries in the civil society. There
are consequences.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
I think the debate that's happening immediately is who gets
to divvy out the consequences and what is the severity
of those consequences. When you think about an issue like
Jimmy Kimmel, for example. But at city Hall, whether or
not a person attending a meeting can just throw the
inward at the council president, who is a black man,
(27:25):
they are framing that as a case of First Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Now I wasn't there, and I wouldn't want to be there,
but I would have to assume that they know that
that is not helping their case, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
He to the contrary, says it does. He's challenging them
because they say it's beyond their desire to use those words.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
By the way, he says he's not a racist.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
He's not a racist, even though he holds up swastika
signs and all sorts of things and yells out the nward.
He's not a racist. He's just a free speech absolutist
and feels that the council hinders that.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, this is what I recommend for that individual.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I would like for him to have that exact same
debate in Inglewood or lynn Wood and see if it's
received the same way. You have him make that case
and see if his free speech rights are.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Somehow infringed upon.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I'll tell you what's interesting is it's so regular an
occurrence at La City Hall that most of us are desensitized.
You don't even it doesn't even catch your breath. If
someone were to shout the word out at the mall,
you'd look around and think, what's happening at the city
council meeting? You don't even think twice about it. But
this particular man went to a Wittier City council meeting
(28:39):
I think last week and pulled that stunt and the
whole place shut down for over an hour because they
didn't know how to deal.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
With it well as well it should.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
And when people are just i think, just being hyperbolic
and performative in the demonstrations of where they think the
line is, they're not getting any close or to whatever
their supposed goal is having related to, you know, civic issues.
You know, be trying to get the sidewalks repaired, whatever
the issue may be.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That is not getting you closer to that goal. No,
it doesn't. And that's where I am on this.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Like, there are occasions, and it even pains me to
say this about some of the people who behave in
the most vile manners down there, there are occasions where
they raise a valid issue, whatever the issue may be,
I look at it just subjectively, of course, while I'm
covering the council and thinking it's got a good point,
you know, not just the blatant, flippant racism. But occasionally
(29:36):
you say, hey, there's not any money for the sidewalks,
for example. That's a valid issue.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I don't want to.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Listen to you anymore if you've spent the previous five
minutes calling people fat and disgusting and this or that,
because I don't think you seriously.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't know a council president Marquise Harris Dawson personally.
He's been a guest on his show. I followed his career.
I have a sense of who he is as a person.
I'm inclined to believe that if if you were to
approach him rhetorically in that manner, he's going to make
a mental note and put you with the bottom of
any list of things to get done.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
He handles it with calm, he does, and I'll tell
you this. He has changed the format of the meetings
in a way that I, personally, editorial if I may editorialize,
enjoy because they take they used to take a lot
of public comment, basically until every single person spoke, and
it's just a circus.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
For the most part.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
There are people who are there with legitimate grievances and
concerns and they're overshadowed.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
By these stunts.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Now he'll put a hard stop, you know, and say
at the beginning, we're taking public comment to you know,
look at the clock a quarter till and that's it,
and no more phone public comment. And that has been
a huge difference. The Board of Supervisors still takes phone
comment and that's why they're board meetings. And this isn't
a joke. Are nine hours long every single week? Oh hails, No,
(30:55):
let me just ask you this. Mark Runner had a question.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
First, he wanted to know whether you were wearing my
heels are low heels on that marble floor that we heard.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I already told him that, and Michael, I already told
you in person that I thought you did a nice
job on the report. But also as when I was
a reporter I covered my own fair amount of city
council meetings elsewhere, and I thought you did a terrific
job of capturing the let's generously call it the slice
of life that shows up at these some of it's
very performative. I once there was a guy who just
(31:25):
went berserk in a meeting and I went up to
him to get a quote later and he was like, oh,
did you want me to repeat that without the swearing.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They know what they're doing. They do exactly know what
they're doing. They know a terrific job. But I don't
know what they know. I know they walked their moment
in the sun.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
They have a captive audience, but I don't know because
my wife has worked in city government for many years
and I've seen all the horror stories that you were
basically viewing firsthand, and it's the same. People come out
every single week and they're known by name, and they
know everyone who works in a city, but they almost
never get anything done specifically because of the methods that
(32:01):
they're choosing.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
You what is it you attract more bees with honey?
That's true. Yeah, I don't know who wants to attract bees,
but but that's it, that's it. Instead they show up
flies and you know, yeah, don't I don't know if
I use that expression. Crew, we're tiptoeing around it. It's late.
I've been here for a long time. Did I say
something wrong?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
No, No, Before you go that you have to tell
us about this ice cream that you brought all over.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Oh yeah, of course, I've been pepping this ice cream
all over the place to wall lights that this is
my spouse and I we are. You know, we have
a little developing dream of maybe having little ice cream
shops someday, and so we've been experimenting with a test
kitchen in our home. And this flavor that you were
tasting now is my world famous soon to be salted
caramel butter cream.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I made the caramel. Oh, he made the caramel and
made the ice cream. We mixed it together. We should
call it like monkey cream or something.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
We have.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
We have a flavor called a monkey monkey something. Gosh,
but it has the banana and the and the nuts
and monkey snacks.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's really really good.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And I'm not saying that just to gash you up,
because I'm eating it in the studio right now.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It's gobs of caramel.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
And you know why, because when you get a caramel
ice cream and at a store it's got some thin,
pitiful little line of caramel in it, you gotta go
hunting for it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
This one, the caramel goes hunting for you. So We're
just gonna ignore that. Ignore what banana and nuts?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
All right?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Are you maybing a joke about anatomy?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
She's on the way out. She thinks she didn't say
whatever she wants. She's already drop some f bobs, not
dumping up. She'll be she'll be at city hall, drop
fire me.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We gotta go to break though. But I tell you
that there's no telling what's going to happen the rest
of the show. It might turn into a city council.
That's why I gotta get out of here. I'm done.
I'm clocking out. Thanks for running that for me.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Absolutely. It's laid with Mokelly Kiff, I AM and forty
live everywhere. I heart Radio
Speaker 7 (33:54):
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