August 13, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the rollout of YouTube’s new AI-powered age verification system AND the possible end of 133-year-old photography company Kodak…PLUS – Thoughts on renting the "Poltergeist" house and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Six forty is Later with Kelly. I was doing some
what I would say as community service. I was talking
to some young kids as part of the Collab youth program,
and they're asking about how to get in the business,
what does it you do, what have you done, what
was the path you took, and that kind of thing.
And one of the questions was in a studie question
was how does AI impact what you do or your
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personal life? And I said, wow, that was a great question.
The young lady was about maybe fourteen years old. And
my question, my answer to a question was something like this.
I don't use AI, but AI is present all around
everything that I do. It's not like I'm going to
ask chat, GPT for anything. Nothing. I'm not asking GROC,
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I'm not asking any of them. That's not what I do.
But I acknowledge that when I use my GPS or
use my smartphone, AI is involved. That's the passive application.
Here's another example of that. YouTube And if you're watching
on YouTube, you use YouTube. I use YouTube. We might
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use it for any number of videos. If and I found,
you know, YouTube is showing movies now that you can
subscribe to its movies free movies, and I sometimes watch
movies on YouTube. I bring that up because YouTube has
begun testing a new AI powered age verification system and
it starts officially tomorrow, and it's supposedly going to be
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able to differentiate between adults and minors age verification based
on the kinds of videos they have been watching. Let
me stop right there. You're trying to tell me that
YouTube will be able to differentiate between me Sho's say,
an adult and a minor on the strength of the
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videos we're watching. Do you actually think a fifteen year
old who is a minor is watching fifteen year old
stuff or it is probably watching the stuff that adults
are watching. Not that like adults as in pornographic. But
I'm just saying, you know, people older than eighteen would
watch kids nowadays. They love that retro vibe. But I'm
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saying they're not watching fifteen year old kids stuff. I
would be willing to suspect your daughter's how old? Fifteen? Okay?
I yeah, I don't think that she's looking at Dora
the Explorer.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, no, no, no no. And I think that kids
nowadays period, when they're watching anything, it's in little bites.
It's in little bites, And I can see how more
and more kids would be gravitating to YouTube. You know,
they sit there can get little, bite sized, many episodes
of what they want the way they want it. So
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this is kind of you know, ingenius of YouTube to
at least get out in front of it, because you
know it's gonna be people are gonna be posting all
types of unsavory stuff the kids just don't need to see.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The system supposedly will only work when viewers are logged
into their accounts like you are right now, if you're
watching us on YouTube, and will make its age assessment
regardless of the birthday you might have used upon signing up.
So you may have signed up and your supposed YouTube
age is twenty three, but they're going to analyze to
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the algorithm as far as what types of videos you're watching,
and YouTube will make its own assessment. If the system
flags a logged in viewer as being under eighteen per
the videos you've watching, YouTube will impose the normal controls
and restrictions that the site already use as a way
to prevent minors from watching videos. I would be pretty pissed.
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Let's say if I'm twenty and then all of a
sudden you want to flag my site or flag my
privileges as being under eighteen because you're going to make
an assessment based on just the videos I may have
been watching. Maybe I'm maybe I'm twenty five, and I'm
looking for children's videos from my child or something because
I want something for them to watch, not for me
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to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well and nally that I think that YouTube for the
most part, has remained relatively unscathed when it comes to
having really really unsavory things on it. I mean, especially
when if you go on X right now, perhaps you
just open it up x X X porn will be
on x X will porn. I'll just say that to
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see if it pops up on the phone if you
go to X. But you can actually just see straight
porn there. So why not YouTube sec Yeah, we have
to do something because you come to this platform and
yeah you may see wild the as people post this,
that and the other. But if we can do age
verification and make sure that kids can come here.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yes, I know when I post my videos on YouTube,
I get a specific prompt. Is this appropriate for kids,
as in kids, not that it would be inappropriate for
someone who's like thirteen or fourteen, but they want you
to affirmatively say whether your content is meant for a
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younger child as opposed to like I'm doing political commentaries
and everything. No, that's not meant for kids. It's not
to exclude kids. I'm just saying it's not meant for them.
It's not an educatational tool for a twelve or thirteen
year old. YouTube has always been aggressive in that regard,
and they are quick to remove someone's content. Trust me,
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they'll find any sort of reason to remove your content,
be it copyright violation or content violation inappropriate material. They
will strike your account in a hartpet So this doesn't
surprise me. I just am surprised that it just seems
they're using a system which is error prone. Probably at best.
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You're trying to use age verification based on my actions,
not my actual age. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm looking at
all sorts of stuff. Some days I'm looking for old
cartoons that I used to watch because I know I
can fight it on YouTube. What I'm saying, you know,
let's just imagine that it can go both ways. If
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you're someone who's fourteen or fifteen and you're looking at content.
Let's say it's an action movie or you know, fighting scenes, whatever.
The assumption probably from the algorithm is that you are
of a certain age and that you are an adult.
I just I wonder how accurate this is actually going
to be, and how it's going to strike certain channels,
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strike someone's privileges, and how well that's going to go
over with people. I would not trust AI to determine
someone who's either sevenventeen or nineteen.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I wonder, though, are they using the same technology that
they're using, like say in the Midwest to make sure
that you are over eighteen when you sign up for
porn Hub or whatever, because.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
They are using AI there. Maybe, And I'm quite sure
there's a legal aspect to this where YouTube wants to
somehow say that we're doing all we can to restrict
age and appropriate content from kids. You know, it doesn't
have to be fool proof, but they can say, hey,
we have this layer of protection, you know, this layer
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of verification. I don't know whether it's going to do
what it's going to do, but we are the beta
testing community. We're gonna do with it. Because I use
YouTube every single day, every day. If I'm looking for
a clip, like we'll talk about the passing of the
actress Danielle Spencer. Day I was on YouTube looking up
clips from the nineteen seventies. Does that mean I'm an
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adult or not? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well connected to are like our email account. I can
never remember how how YouTube is connected E.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, it depends on your email, like for example, YouTube
is a division or or you know, Google is connected
to Google, So your Google account will also be your
YouTube account if you're assigned in So I don't know,
like if you if you have like proton mail or
what is it? What is it iCloud for? For Apple?
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What is that the Apple? If you have something other
than Gmail or something, I don't know how it connects
in that regard. But I just use my Google account
and but you know it just seamlessly connects. Yeah. Yeah,
But this is something that to your point to twelve
will probably be used by just about all sites at
some point if you provide content or you want to
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limit the accessibility of the content to minors. Yes, AI
is going to be the driving force.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And it will help because there's apps like Disney plus
when they did that one relaunch and then everyone had
to have a pen, and I'm like, okay, I'll create
a pin for myself. But the other accounts, the kids counts,
they don't have this pen thing. So I'm like, what
am I doing with the pen other than it getting
my information and testing me? I guess beta testing the
whole thing. Oh, beta testing most definitely. It's Later with
(09:22):
Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on
social media and the iHeartRadio app. And speaking of nostalgia,
speaking of looking up things of yesteryear, as I'm prone
to do. If I said Kodak to you, depending on
your age, you may think of that as either a
company or a rapper.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong. We'll tell you about
which we're talking about when we come back.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Mister mo Kelly here live on Instagram, Facebook and Heart
Radio app. And I always wonder how people cannot see
the brick wall coming Kodak. We all remember Kodak. If
you are of a certain age, you know Kodak film,
Kodak cameras from a bygone era where people had physical pictures.
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My first camera I ever owned was a little Kodak camera.
It was everywhere. In fact, the first Kodak product came
out in eighteen eighty eight. The Eastman Kodak Company incorporated
in eighteen ninety two, but the company traces its roots
back to eighteen seventy nine. In eighteen eighty eight, Eastman
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sold the first Kodak camera for twenty five dollars, and
now it is teetering on the edge of going out
of business. In its earnings report yesterday, the company warned
that it doesn't have committed financing or available liquidity to
pay it's roughly five hundred million dollars in upcoming obligations.
(11:01):
Let me go back to where I started. It's amazing
to me that so many businesses cannot see the future
of their own industry. Let me give you some examples
I don't know or understand, and I would love to
get your thoughts on this, Sam and Mark as you
see fit. I don't understand why the Thomas Map guide
could not see where GPS was taking everything. I don't
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understand how movie theaters did not see or even movie
studios did not see the future of digital media and streaming.
I don't understand why the music industry, comparatively speaking very similarly,
did not see the future of digital streaming and downloading
of music, and it torpedo the music industry. Streaming is
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now torpedoing the movie theater industry. We know that the
Thomas Guide doesn't really exist anymore. GPS has moved on,
and I make the same arguments like Kodak, how could
you not be the front, the forefront of the digital
photography revolution.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You're talking to somebody who came from the world of newspapers.
I don't know it's right, Okay, Okay, I'm going then, yeah, yeah,
I mean a lot of us saw what was coming
and tried to warn the authority figures. But I got
to tell you that the people in charge can be
a little out of touch. I mean, I begged the
people of the Seattle Times to stop even thinking of
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it or calling it a newspaper. It's a news site,
it's a news portal paper. People aren't going to be
using paper that much longer. Also, focus on video games.
They make x times more than movies make. And we've
got a whole movie section every single week, you know,
things like that. And the people up top, who tend
to be older and more affluent and more isolated the
further up the food chain they go, they don't have
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any contact with that stuff. They're really really out of touch.
So while the rank and file guys like me are yelling, hey,
times are changing. You got to do something. And here's
what the people who know what they're talking about are saying,
the people up touch are like, okay, little man, move on,
Thank you for your input.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now. I will say radio did a decent job of
recognizing the potential value of podcasts and moving accordingly to
incorporate that into the medium and format, but most industries
are not. And Twila, you made the point we were
kind of discussing us off air where I guess the
old folks just cannot see the forest for the trees there.
(13:28):
We go most most of the time when we see something.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And we're on the younger end of our music industry,
entertainment industry legends and icon so to speak, but a
lot of them when we would go to them with
our ideas and things that we felt could take over
the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Or whatever, they would ignore us.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They would ignore us, and they would go yeah, cool, Hey,
go out there and wrap this van, go out there
with these postal boards. And we used to think like, hey,
people are They're not doing out there doing that anymore,
and they were still spending this money on this street
team doing something. It's like, we have to be able
to enter this digital domain, and that's why a lot
of them fell off.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I remember this with the book industry, you know, Barnes
and Noble Beads, all Crown Books. They couldn't see the
digital revolution coming. And Kodak, god bless his heart, one
hundred and thirty three year old photography company, How why
have you not built out fifteen twenty years ago the
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online space that you can own as a digital photography company.
I was just looking at the first Kodak camera I had.
It was a Kodak disc from I think nineteen eighty
six or eighty seven. Wow, And that was something that
I thought was really cool. And that's the kind of
idea that like they innovated. They came up with great
ideas that for people to go take pictures and stuff
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like that, and instead of leaning into the innovation of
digital cameras and doing the stuff like that could if
they came out with a Kodeak disc camera now that
that actually like had high end photography quality stuff on
it where you can actually put it in your back
pocket and have it be a strong, solid camera, they
can get goods. I'll do you one better. Why didn't
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Kodak partner with Google or Apple to make its cameras
for its phones?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Well, and that's the thing I think all of us
are kind of tapping on the subject. The reasoning why
is because the people in charge look at all of
the different fads. I mean five six years ago, TikTok
wasn't a thing. Now it's the thing that's driving all
of music. So all of these people are looking at
all these new things coming up as being you know, like, oh,
it's just a fad. It's not gonna stick, it's not
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gonna last, so we're not gonna throw money at it.
There was like twenty something years ago I was working
at a radio station in San Diego. Magic Johnson came
to town and the TV station came over and filmed
the whole thing. But they didn't have any website or
Internet or anything like that specifically because they're managed said
internet's a fad and we're not gonna get We're not
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gonna throw money at that.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The charge of fifty five in the chat says if
only they had a crystal ball, saying like, you can't
predict the future. Now this you can see enough. Industries
have fallen prior to twenty twenty five, where let's say
around two thousand and companies were starting to embrace the
idea of having an online presence. Remember the dot com boom.
(16:25):
Some companies were forward thinking enough to think, we need
to have an online presence. That's two twenty five years ago.
If you're Kodak and you've seen the fall of the
music business because of the digital revolution, You've seen the
fall of the movie theater industry because of the digital revolution.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Come on, how many hits do you need? Why does
industry jak? Why doesn't Kodak have a smartphone? Because everybody
has a camera on their smartphone?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Making sense over there, I'm making my sense. I love
Kodak in a nostalgia sense. But and I'm not saying
that someone didn't try internally. I just don't understand why
you couldn't see the end of your own company's life.
It'd be different if Kodak tried and it failed, But
(17:17):
I can't find any evidence of them trying outside of
their present business matrix of just making cameras. You know,
do you think photographers are buying film like they used to?
Do you think movie theater excuse me, movie studios are
using film to make their movies like they used to?
Not on the same level. What was the last time
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people's bought a Kodak camera for personal use? All five
people did this year. I got one for my son.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I can't remember where it's going, but it was just
for like just s's and giggles because it was like
one of those like hey, yeah, you can usually take pictures.
And he went around and then brought it back like
I think it's done, and I'm like, yeah, now we're
supposed to go get this developed.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I remember, you know a roadhouse was nineteen eighty nine, Yeah,
nineteen eighty nine, and they're talking about the photomat and
you haven't done anything since then.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I got the seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Got the seven eleven, the photo mat J. C. Penny
came to the town because of Brad Wesley. You're doing
the same thing now in twenty twenty five that you
were doing in nineteen eighty nine, you're doing something wrong.
It's later with Mo Kelly. Hey Mark, Yes, Mo. Do
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you still have a Kodak camera somewhere home? I got
all sorts of cameras in boxes in storage. Yeah, I
think I have my original Kodak somewhere at my mother's
house somewhere somewhere, you know. And you had to put
the flash on top of it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
What are those ones where you it's a polaroid where
you take the picture and you pull it out and
it develops in your hand.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, Yeah, had to shake it and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Were fun.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I think there are you can get a filter
so you'd have like a polaroid shot ESQ for you
like your Instagram photos. I love the throwback stuff, but
the whole idea. Have you ever like looked I know
you have what I'm saying, if you ever looked at
an actual polaroid photo. The resolutionist is crappy, The resolutions crappy,
the lighting, No matter what lighting you have in your
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natural environment, it looks terrible. And because of that, it's glorious.
And now you have to have a super advanced smartphone
to replicate that cheap look polaroid Are they even still
in business before the form of them. Yeah, well they
(19:46):
still have a website and you're selling Oh there's they're
selling throwback versions of their Polaroid cameras with the actual
with the picture will come out and have to let
it develop.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Okay, now that's fun. Yeah, but that's not a sustainable
business model. No, no, it's just in novelty. They're all
going to be homeless and wearing those barrels with suspenders
on them.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Let me just play this as a follow up to
our conversation on Polaroid and Code Act and what used
to be as far as film technology.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
But you you're a smart boy, aren't you, Dolton.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's just not too realistic. Christ.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I'm just like you. I came up the hard way
on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
When I came to this town after Korea, there was nothing.
I brought the ball here. I got the seven eleven,
I got the photom at here.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Christ J. C.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Penny is coming here because to me, you ask anybody,
they'll tell you I got the seven eleven, I got
the photom.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Out here photo Maat. Is Photomat still in business or
did they go out of business as well? I know
they don't have those kiosks anymore, do they. They can't.
They can't possibly be in business photo Matt. Yeah, it's
out of business, it says was it was an American
retail chain of photo development drive through kiosks. I actually
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used to run my photography lab in high school. I
did a computer lab and photography lab. And when I
say stop bath to people, that's like they have no
idea what that is. And I know you do, Mark,
because you did some photography. No, you never did ever
develop your own film in like a dark room. No.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I used to get drunk in the dark room in
high school dark room parties we called them.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
We actually we had a photography class and we had
a dark room and we would develop film, you know,
and put it in the in the various solutions and
stop baths. Was stop developing and no, it was. It
was very cool to do, to take your own pictures
and develop.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You know. As a writer, I've always had sort of
a bizarre relationship with photographers because they were also always
so precious and treated like their prints as if they
were works of fine art to be signed, and I'm like, oh,
you want to draft in my article while you're at it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, But I kind of understand that because it's your baby.
It's something that you created. It's a part of your vision,
your eye, as they say, how you see the world.
It's very distinct. It may not be valuable to any
anyone else. But there are articles that I've written over
the years as like, damn, I'm kind of proud of that,
and they hang in my office now. It's not like
I would give it to someone and say, hey, do
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you want to sign copy of it? But I understand
it at least I just never oh, sorry, go ahead,
that's okay.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I got the seven to eleven. I got the vote
them out of here, right. JC Penny is coming here
because of me. You ask anybody, they'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Ask anybody, they'll tell you, Yeah, J C.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Penny. That's doing great right now, isn't it. They're circling
the drain as well. Oh that's right, Yes, that did
that did not boasts did not last.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Somehow, seven eleven is still going strong as people are
getting murdered there left and right.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I got the seven eleven. I got the potom out
of here.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Christ coming here because of me. You can ask anyone,
and man's a visionary.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Brad Wesley couldn't bring a Montgomery Wards or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Oh oh, maybe he was working on a Woolworth's. He
went deep for that one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah. Those big box retailers, those those anchor stores as
it were, Yeah, they don't. They don't have those anymore.
I went by Delamoh Mall this past weekend just to
pick up a few knick knacks. They have a pressed
juicery there, and I love the juices that they sell there.
It is one of the places that you can get
(23:52):
it and get all the flavors as opposed to going
to a grocery store. They only have a handful of
Long story short is Dilamo Mall surprisingly is still a
very packed mall. I don't really know. Yeah, yeah, I
was absolutely thinking about it. It's like, gosh, there are
a lot of damn people here for mall's big picture
not doing that well. Dulama Mall was packed. You couldn't
(24:14):
find a parking space anywhere. And it wasn't like it
was a Christmas holidays. It was a Sunday at the
end of summer and you could not find a parking
space anywhere. There's a parking structure, parking lot by Macy's.
Everything was full. It was reminiscent of Christmas. It was
really surprising because if you go to any of the
other malls, like South Bay Galleria, whatever's left there, not
(24:38):
a lot. I haven't been to h the Shrimp, the
Sherman Oaks Gaalleria. I don't think that's there anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It is, but it's it's nothing really there, like like
they still have you're talking about the one with the
movie theater, right correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's a
couple of really nice restaurants there. They still have the
movie theater of course, still off the gym, but a
lot of the stores that were there, those things are gone.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Has anyone been to the Glendale Galleria lately? I have. Yeah. Yes,
it look alike. It's fine. It looks it has a
bunch of shops.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It has a like Americana has kind of bumped into
a lot of its uh crowd, I guess foot traffic. Yeah,
but it's still got a bunch of shops in there,
and I like that Target is going to be good. Yeah,
still Town Center. Yeah, or better known as Fox Hills.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It is still fox Hill and that actually is uh
is where you got to go? Okay, Yeah, Fox Hills
Mall or the Topanga the Topanga Plaza or I don't
know if it's a plaza, but the Topanga Mall.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That mall is massive. Yeah, that one's huge. I take
my kid there every once in a while and you
get lost. Yeah. Yeah. My mother just texted me. She
said she was in the mall Sunday with my niece
getting her ready for school. It was packed. She didn't
say it was Dilamo's Mall or Telamo Mall or Crito small,
(26:02):
but yeah, I guess buying large. Southern California mall still
seem to be doing okay. The ones that I've been
to out of state when I'm traveling not doing okay
at all.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Remember the old days where when you'd say to your partner, Hey,
you want to go to the mall? Doesn't that seem
like ancient history? It was.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was the best. It was a hangout. You can
go to the movies, you can go shopping, you can
go girl watching. It was It was great for that.
You didn't need to have a lot of money to
just hang out at the mall.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It would never occur to me to say such a
sentence in the English language. In the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Look, when I was twenty, from sixteen to twenty two,
hot Dog on a Stick was the place. Okay, that's
a whole thing. Yeah, goodness, the most beautiful girls were
working at Hot Dog on a Stick. Oh, no joke,
pounding that that lemonade, them little short shorts. Oh I had.
I have memories like the corners of my mind. Let
(26:57):
me tell you. Woh boy. Oh, they don't have hot
Dog on a stick anymore, do they they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I haven't seen uh. And there is one, well, okay,
the last time I saw one.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
There's one in the I believe, the Burbank, the Burbank Mall.
I haven't been in that one. There's one in Valley Village, okay.
And there's one in Glendale. There's one one in Glendale,
there's one in fox Hill. If you go to YouTube,
you can see her pounding that lemonade. That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh, yes, it was everything. Yes, it's good lemonade. Just
a second. You see you've seen that Mark. I didn't know.
Oh no, I'm a fan. You you didn't know about
that with hot Dog Gonna stick with it, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And there's some rhythm to that. Yes, yeah, they must
not have had it out there, Hammar.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're sixteen seventy years old. That was everything that was
better than porn. Well, it's certainly on a par with us.
Yes it is. And they were intentional with that. That
had to be intentional. Oh thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I got the seven to eleven. I got the vote
them out of here. Rst J. C. Penny is coming
here because of me. You ask anybody, they'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We'll talk poultry Guyst when we come back. I am
six forty eleve everywhere n I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's from the nineteen eighty two movie Poultergeist. I'm talking
about the original, not that crappy ass remake they tried.
If you remember the movie in nineteen eighty two, the
house itself was a character where everything happened. And it's
a real house in SeeMe Valley And if you would like,
(28:39):
you can rent the house, which has been redesigned and
remodeled to mimic the set from nineteen eighty two. It's
a four bedroom house. It's located on Roxbury Street in
SeeMe Valley and it gives Renterest a chance to relive
the spooky and potentially traumatizing experience of the movie. And
if you remember what Joe Beth Williams, Craig T. Nelson,
(29:02):
some people thought that that movie set was haunted, or
it was it was. What's the word I'm looking for,
there's a curse on it.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Curse.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
There were some untimely deaths of some of the main characters.
Carol An died, the older sister Dominique Dunn died. Uh
Tangina Baron all are welcome. She died in a strange way.
And if you haven't seen the movies, it's still probably
(29:37):
one of the best thriller movies. I wouldn't call it
a horror movie. There is some horror to it, but
I watched it again recently. It still stands to test
the time.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
I don't know where very were strong enough to punch
a hole this wow can do away from you. He
keeps Caroline close to it and away.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
From the spectrum.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Nd it lies.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's his things.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Only your child can understand. He's been used to restrain
the others. It seems break is enough child.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
To us.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He used to be. And we're not talking about long
term rentals. You can reserve the house on a night
by night basis six hundred dollars a night and it
can sleep up to eight people and pets for those
brave enough to book a stay. Last year, the property
was listed for sale for the first time in more
(30:52):
than four decades. It sold for one point two eight million,
and so now they're renting it out so people like
U and B can experience the horror of the house.
And no, I would not spend a dollar. I would
not stay in that house for free. I do that.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
That sounds like fun. They remarked. It redecorated it. There's
like knocks in the on the wall and little things
to try and spook you.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That that sounds like fun. It has probably the old
countertop from the movie. It probably looks something straight out
of nineteen eighty two. No, do not eat the chicken
in the fridge. That's oh yeah, don't don't do it.
Don't put your hand on the TV set, don't don't
do that. No, I'm not spending a night in a
haunted house like that. But we don't need to spend
the night. We could just go and take later in
(31:37):
mo Kelly Live there. Nope, Oh no, no, sir.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Can you imagine that light Carol that No, no, sir,
it's just a movie house.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Save it for the Amityville House. Let's all stay there
for the night. I'm not staying at the Poltergeist House.
I'm not staying at the Amityville House. I'm on to
be fine. I'm not staying at the Exorcist House. So
here's how I can run the mart. You just he goes,
you said, Mark on assignment.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I've done that. I did that for he even wants to. No, no,
I did it. I I used to do things like
that for fun. When I was a newspaper writer. I
would go do like thrill seeking things, and one of
those was to spend the night in a haunted Uh.
I guess it was a metal institution, sir.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Nope, I see something coming up here during the spooky season.
May not staying at Alcatraz. I'm not staying wherever they
did once fll over the Cuckoo's desk. I'm not staying
anywhere where stuff happens.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, we saw how terrified you were when somebody honked
their HORNATCHD.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You tried to kill me, trying to run me down.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I wouldn't expect you to stay in someplace legitimately scary.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Nick, Are you coming in studio? You're staying over there
in air MINX? Do you want me to stay in mix?
Of course? Okay, I was just wondering. It's just you know,
this disembodied voice. People don't know this. That's the perfect
thing for Poultter. Guys like, don't startle him. Yeah, just
don't try to run me down. Nick, I promise I'm
not that guy. Okay, if I am six forty, live
everywhere and I heart do you
Speaker 1 (33:00):
At ks I and k os t h D two,
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Six forty is Later with Kelly. I was doing some
what I would say as community service. I was talking
to some young kids as part of the Collab youth program,
and they're asking about how to get in the business,
what does it you do, what have you done, what
was the path you took, and that kind of thing.
And one of the questions was in a studie question
was how does AI impact what you do or your
(00:40):
personal life? And I said, wow, that was a great question.
The young lady was about maybe fourteen years old. And
my question, my answer to a question was something like this.
I don't use AI, but AI is present all around
everything that I do. It's not like I'm going to
ask chat, GPT for anything. Nothing. I'm not asking GROC,
(01:03):
I'm not asking any of them. That's not what I do.
But I acknowledge that when I use my GPS or
use my smartphone, AI is involved. That's the passive application.
Here's another example of that. YouTube And if you're watching
on YouTube, you use YouTube. I use YouTube. We might
(01:24):
use it for any number of videos. If and I found,
you know, YouTube is showing movies now that you can
subscribe to its movies free movies, and I sometimes watch
movies on YouTube. I bring that up because YouTube has
begun testing a new AI powered age verification system and
it starts officially tomorrow, and it's supposedly going to be
(01:49):
able to differentiate between adults and minors age verification based
on the kinds of videos they have been watching. Let
me stop right there. You're trying to tell me that
YouTube will be able to differentiate between me Sho's say,
an adult and a minor on the strength of the
(02:12):
videos we're watching. Do you actually think a fifteen year
old who is a minor is watching fifteen year old
stuff or it is probably watching the stuff that adults
are watching. Not that like adults as in pornographic. But
I'm just saying, you know, people older than eighteen would
watch kids nowadays. They love that retro vibe. But I'm
(02:35):
saying they're not watching fifteen year old kids stuff. I
would be willing to suspect your daughter's how old? Fifteen? Okay?
I yeah, I don't think that she's looking at Dora
the Explorer.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, no, no, no no. And I think that kids
nowadays period, when they're watching anything, it's in little bites.
It's in little bites, And I can see how more
and more kids would be gravitating to YouTube. You know,
they sit there can get little, bite sized, many episodes
of what they want the way they want it. So
(03:11):
this is kind of you know, ingenius of YouTube to
at least get out in front of it, because you
know it's gonna be people are gonna be posting all
types of unsavory stuff the kids just don't need to see.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The system supposedly will only work when viewers are logged
into their accounts like you are right now, if you're
watching us on YouTube, and will make its age assessment
regardless of the birthday you might have used upon signing up.
So you may have signed up and your supposed YouTube
age is twenty three, but they're going to analyze to
(03:42):
the algorithm as far as what types of videos you're watching,
and YouTube will make its own assessment. If the system
flags a logged in viewer as being under eighteen per
the videos you've watching, YouTube will impose the normal controls
and restrictions that the site already use as a way
to prevent minors from watching videos. I would be pretty pissed.
(04:04):
Let's say if I'm twenty and then all of a
sudden you want to flag my site or flag my
privileges as being under eighteen because you're going to make
an assessment based on just the videos I may have
been watching. Maybe I'm maybe I'm twenty five, and I'm
looking for children's videos from my child or something because
I want something for them to watch, not for me
(04:25):
to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well and nally that I think that YouTube for the
most part, has remained relatively unscathed when it comes to
having really really unsavory things on it. I mean, especially
when if you go on X right now, perhaps you
just open it up x X X porn will be
on x X will porn. I'll just say that to
(04:48):
see if it pops up on the phone if you
go to X. But you can actually just see straight
porn there. So why not YouTube sec Yeah, we have
to do something because you come to this platform and
yeah you may see wild the as people post this,
that and the other. But if we can do age
verification and make sure that kids can come here.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yes, I know when I post my videos on YouTube,
I get a specific prompt. Is this appropriate for kids,
as in kids, not that it would be inappropriate for
someone who's like thirteen or fourteen, but they want you
to affirmatively say whether your content is meant for a
(05:26):
younger child as opposed to like I'm doing political commentaries
and everything. No, that's not meant for kids. It's not
to exclude kids. I'm just saying it's not meant for them.
It's not an educatational tool for a twelve or thirteen
year old. YouTube has always been aggressive in that regard,
and they are quick to remove someone's content. Trust me,
(05:48):
they'll find any sort of reason to remove your content,
be it copyright violation or content violation inappropriate material. They
will strike your account in a hartpet So this doesn't
surprise me. I just am surprised that it just seems
they're using a system which is error prone. Probably at best.
(06:09):
You're trying to use age verification based on my actions,
not my actual age. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm looking at
all sorts of stuff. Some days I'm looking for old
cartoons that I used to watch because I know I
can fight it on YouTube. What I'm saying, you know,
let's just imagine that it can go both ways. If
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you're someone who's fourteen or fifteen and you're looking at content.
Let's say it's an action movie or you know, fighting scenes, whatever.
The assumption probably from the algorithm is that you are
of a certain age and that you are an adult.
I just I wonder how accurate this is actually going
to be, and how it's going to strike certain channels,
(06:52):
strike someone's privileges, and how well that's going to go
over with people. I would not trust AI to determine
someone who's either sevenventeen or nineteen.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I wonder, though, are they using the same technology that
they're using, like say in the Midwest to make sure
that you are over eighteen when you sign up for
porn Hub or whatever, because.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
They are using AI there. Maybe, And I'm quite sure
there's a legal aspect to this where YouTube wants to
somehow say that we're doing all we can to restrict
age and appropriate content from kids. You know, it doesn't
have to be fool proof, but they can say, hey,
we have this layer of protection, you know, this layer
(07:34):
of verification. I don't know whether it's going to do
what it's going to do, but we are the beta
testing community. We're gonna do with it. Because I use
YouTube every single day, every day. If I'm looking for
a clip, like we'll talk about the passing of the
actress Danielle Spencer. Day I was on YouTube looking up
clips from the nineteen seventies. Does that mean I'm an
(07:56):
adult or not? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well connected to are like our email account. I can
never remember how how YouTube is connected E.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, it depends on your email, like for example, YouTube
is a division or or you know, Google is connected
to Google, So your Google account will also be your
YouTube account if you're assigned in So I don't know,
like if you if you have like proton mail or
what is it? What is it iCloud for? For Apple?
(08:28):
What is that the Apple? If you have something other
than Gmail or something, I don't know how it connects
in that regard. But I just use my Google account
and but you know it just seamlessly connects. Yeah. Yeah,
But this is something that to your point to twelve
will probably be used by just about all sites at
some point if you provide content or you want to
(08:52):
limit the accessibility of the content to minors. Yes, AI
is going to be the driving force.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And it will help because there's apps like Disney plus
when they did that one relaunch and then everyone had
to have a pen, and I'm like, okay, I'll create
a pin for myself. But the other accounts, the kids counts,
they don't have this pen thing. So I'm like, what
am I doing with the pen other than it getting
my information and testing me? I guess beta testing the
whole thing. Oh, beta testing most definitely. It's Later with
(09:22):
Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on
social media and the iHeartRadio app. And speaking of nostalgia,
speaking of looking up things of yesteryear, as I'm prone
to do. If I said Kodak to you, depending on
your age, you may think of that as either a
company or a rapper.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong. We'll tell you about
which we're talking about when we come back.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Mister mo Kelly here live on Instagram, Facebook and Heart
Radio app. And I always wonder how people cannot see
the brick wall coming Kodak. We all remember Kodak. If
you are of a certain age, you know Kodak film,
Kodak cameras from a bygone era where people had physical pictures.
(10:19):
My first camera I ever owned was a little Kodak camera.
It was everywhere. In fact, the first Kodak product came
out in eighteen eighty eight. The Eastman Kodak Company incorporated
in eighteen ninety two, but the company traces its roots
back to eighteen seventy nine. In eighteen eighty eight, Eastman
(10:39):
sold the first Kodak camera for twenty five dollars, and
now it is teetering on the edge of going out
of business. In its earnings report yesterday, the company warned
that it doesn't have committed financing or available liquidity to
pay it's roughly five hundred million dollars in upcoming obligations.
(11:01):
Let me go back to where I started. It's amazing
to me that so many businesses cannot see the future
of their own industry. Let me give you some examples
I don't know or understand, and I would love to
get your thoughts on this, Sam and Mark as you
see fit. I don't understand why the Thomas Map guide
could not see where GPS was taking everything. I don't
(11:23):
understand how movie theaters did not see or even movie
studios did not see the future of digital media and streaming.
I don't understand why the music industry, comparatively speaking very similarly,
did not see the future of digital streaming and downloading
of music, and it torpedo the music industry. Streaming is
(11:47):
now torpedoing the movie theater industry. We know that the
Thomas Guide doesn't really exist anymore. GPS has moved on,
and I make the same arguments like Kodak, how could
you not be the front, the forefront of the digital
photography revolution.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You're talking to somebody who came from the world of newspapers.
I don't know it's right, Okay, Okay, I'm going then, yeah, yeah,
I mean a lot of us saw what was coming
and tried to warn the authority figures. But I got
to tell you that the people in charge can be
a little out of touch. I mean, I begged the
people of the Seattle Times to stop even thinking of
(12:26):
it or calling it a newspaper. It's a news site,
it's a news portal paper. People aren't going to be
using paper that much longer. Also, focus on video games.
They make x times more than movies make. And we've
got a whole movie section every single week, you know,
things like that. And the people up top, who tend
to be older and more affluent and more isolated the
further up the food chain they go, they don't have
(12:48):
any contact with that stuff. They're really really out of touch.
So while the rank and file guys like me are yelling, hey,
times are changing. You got to do something. And here's
what the people who know what they're talking about are saying,
the people up touch are like, okay, little man, move on,
Thank you for your input.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now. I will say radio did a decent job of
recognizing the potential value of podcasts and moving accordingly to
incorporate that into the medium and format, but most industries
are not. And Twila, you made the point we were
kind of discussing us off air where I guess the
old folks just cannot see the forest for the trees there.
(13:28):
We go most most of the time when we see something.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And we're on the younger end of our music industry,
entertainment industry legends and icon so to speak, but a
lot of them when we would go to them with
our ideas and things that we felt could take over
the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Or whatever, they would ignore us.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They would ignore us, and they would go yeah, cool, Hey,
go out there and wrap this van, go out there
with these postal boards. And we used to think like, hey,
people are They're not doing out there doing that anymore,
and they were still spending this money on this street
team doing something. It's like, we have to be able
to enter this digital domain, and that's why a lot
of them fell off.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I remember this with the book industry, you know, Barnes
and Noble Beads, all Crown Books. They couldn't see the
digital revolution coming. And Kodak, god bless his heart, one
hundred and thirty three year old photography company, How why
have you not built out fifteen twenty years ago the
(14:31):
online space that you can own as a digital photography company.
I was just looking at the first Kodak camera I had.
It was a Kodak disc from I think nineteen eighty
six or eighty seven. Wow, And that was something that
I thought was really cool. And that's the kind of
idea that like they innovated. They came up with great
ideas that for people to go take pictures and stuff
(14:53):
like that, and instead of leaning into the innovation of
digital cameras and doing the stuff like that could if
they came out with a Kodeak disc camera now that
that actually like had high end photography quality stuff on
it where you can actually put it in your back
pocket and have it be a strong, solid camera, they
can get goods. I'll do you one better. Why didn't
(15:15):
Kodak partner with Google or Apple to make its cameras
for its phones?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Well, and that's the thing I think all of us
are kind of tapping on the subject. The reasoning why
is because the people in charge look at all of
the different fads. I mean five six years ago, TikTok
wasn't a thing. Now it's the thing that's driving all
of music. So all of these people are looking at
all these new things coming up as being you know, like, oh,
it's just a fad. It's not gonna stick, it's not
(15:41):
gonna last, so we're not gonna throw money at it.
There was like twenty something years ago I was working
at a radio station in San Diego. Magic Johnson came
to town and the TV station came over and filmed
the whole thing. But they didn't have any website or
Internet or anything like that specifically because they're managed said
internet's a fad and we're not gonna get We're not
(16:03):
gonna throw money at that.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The charge of fifty five in the chat says if
only they had a crystal ball, saying like, you can't
predict the future. Now this you can see enough. Industries
have fallen prior to twenty twenty five, where let's say
around two thousand and companies were starting to embrace the
idea of having an online presence. Remember the dot com boom.
(16:25):
Some companies were forward thinking enough to think, we need
to have an online presence. That's two twenty five years ago.
If you're Kodak and you've seen the fall of the
music business because of the digital revolution, You've seen the
fall of the movie theater industry because of the digital revolution.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Come on, how many hits do you need? Why does
industry jak? Why doesn't Kodak have a smartphone? Because everybody
has a camera on their smartphone?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Making sense over there, I'm making my sense. I love
Kodak in a nostalgia sense. But and I'm not saying
that someone didn't try internally. I just don't understand why
you couldn't see the end of your own company's life.
It'd be different if Kodak tried and it failed, But
(17:17):
I can't find any evidence of them trying outside of
their present business matrix of just making cameras. You know,
do you think photographers are buying film like they used to?
Do you think movie theater excuse me, movie studios are
using film to make their movies like they used to?
Not on the same level. What was the last time
(17:38):
people's bought a Kodak camera for personal use? All five
people did this year. I got one for my son.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I can't remember where it's going, but it was just
for like just s's and giggles because it was like
one of those like hey, yeah, you can usually take pictures.
And he went around and then brought it back like
I think it's done, and I'm like, yeah, now we're
supposed to go get this developed.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I remember, you know a roadhouse was nineteen eighty nine, Yeah,
nineteen eighty nine, and they're talking about the photomat and
you haven't done anything since then.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
I got the seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Got the seven eleven, the photo mat J. C. Penny
came to the town because of Brad Wesley. You're doing
the same thing now in twenty twenty five that you
were doing in nineteen eighty nine, you're doing something wrong.
It's later with Mo Kelly. Hey Mark, Yes, Mo. Do
(18:40):
you still have a Kodak camera somewhere home? I got
all sorts of cameras in boxes in storage. Yeah, I
think I have my original Kodak somewhere at my mother's
house somewhere somewhere, you know. And you had to put
the flash on top of it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
What are those ones where you it's a polaroid where
you take the picture and you pull it out and
it develops in your hand.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, Yeah, had to shake it and.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Were fun.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I think there are you can get a filter
so you'd have like a polaroid shot ESQ for you
like your Instagram photos. I love the throwback stuff, but
the whole idea. Have you ever like looked I know
you have what I'm saying, if you ever looked at
an actual polaroid photo. The resolutionist is crappy, The resolutions crappy,
the lighting, No matter what lighting you have in your
(19:26):
natural environment, it looks terrible. And because of that, it's glorious.
And now you have to have a super advanced smartphone
to replicate that cheap look polaroid Are they even still
in business before the form of them. Yeah, well they
(19:46):
still have a website and you're selling Oh there's they're
selling throwback versions of their Polaroid cameras with the actual
with the picture will come out and have to let
it develop.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Okay, now that's fun. Yeah, but that's not a sustainable
business model. No, no, it's just in novelty. They're all
going to be homeless and wearing those barrels with suspenders
on them.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Let me just play this as a follow up to
our conversation on Polaroid and Code Act and what used
to be as far as film technology.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
But you you're a smart boy, aren't you, Dolton.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's just not too realistic. Christ.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I'm just like you. I came up the hard way
on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
When I came to this town after Korea, there was nothing.
I brought the ball here. I got the seven eleven,
I got the photom at here.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Christ J. C.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Penny is coming here because to me, you ask anybody,
they'll tell you I got the seven eleven, I got
the photom.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Out here photo Maat. Is Photomat still in business or
did they go out of business as well? I know
they don't have those kiosks anymore, do they. They can't.
They can't possibly be in business photo Matt. Yeah, it's
out of business, it says was it was an American
retail chain of photo development drive through kiosks. I actually
(21:14):
used to run my photography lab in high school. I
did a computer lab and photography lab. And when I
say stop bath to people, that's like they have no
idea what that is. And I know you do, Mark,
because you did some photography. No, you never did ever
develop your own film in like a dark room. No.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I used to get drunk in the dark room in
high school dark room parties we called them.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
We actually we had a photography class and we had
a dark room and we would develop film, you know,
and put it in the in the various solutions and
stop baths. Was stop developing and no, it was. It
was very cool to do, to take your own pictures
and develop.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You know. As a writer, I've always had sort of
a bizarre relationship with photographers because they were also always
so precious and treated like their prints as if they
were works of fine art to be signed, and I'm like, oh,
you want to draft in my article while you're at it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, But I kind of understand that because it's your baby.
It's something that you created. It's a part of your vision,
your eye, as they say, how you see the world.
It's very distinct. It may not be valuable to any
anyone else. But there are articles that I've written over
the years as like, damn, I'm kind of proud of that,
and they hang in my office now. It's not like
I would give it to someone and say, hey, do
(22:38):
you want to sign copy of it? But I understand
it at least I just never oh, sorry, go ahead,
that's okay.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I got the seven to eleven. I got the vote
them out of here, right. JC Penny is coming here
because of me. You ask anybody, they'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Ask anybody, they'll tell you, Yeah, J C.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Penny. That's doing great right now, isn't it. They're circling
the drain as well. Oh that's right, Yes, that did
that did not boasts did not last.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Somehow, seven eleven is still going strong as people are
getting murdered there left and right.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I got the seven eleven. I got the potom out
of here.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Christ coming here because of me. You can ask anyone,
and man's a visionary.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Brad Wesley couldn't bring a Montgomery Wards or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Oh oh, maybe he was working on a Woolworth's. He
went deep for that one.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah. Those big box retailers, those those anchor stores as
it were, Yeah, they don't. They don't have those anymore.
I went by Delamoh Mall this past weekend just to
pick up a few knick knacks. They have a pressed
juicery there, and I love the juices that they sell there.
It is one of the places that you can get
(23:52):
it and get all the flavors as opposed to going
to a grocery store. They only have a handful of
Long story short is Dilamo Mall surprisingly is still a
very packed mall. I don't really know. Yeah, yeah, I
was absolutely thinking about it. It's like, gosh, there are
a lot of damn people here for mall's big picture
not doing that well. Dulama Mall was packed. You couldn't
(24:14):
find a parking space anywhere. And it wasn't like it
was a Christmas holidays. It was a Sunday at the
end of summer and you could not find a parking
space anywhere. There's a parking structure, parking lot by Macy's.
Everything was full. It was reminiscent of Christmas. It was
really surprising because if you go to any of the
other malls, like South Bay Galleria, whatever's left there, not
(24:38):
a lot. I haven't been to h the Shrimp, the
Sherman Oaks Gaalleria. I don't think that's there anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It is, but it's it's nothing really there, like like
they still have you're talking about the one with the
movie theater, right correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's a
couple of really nice restaurants there. They still have the
movie theater of course, still off the gym, but a
lot of the stores that were there, those things are gone.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Has anyone been to the Glendale Galleria lately? I have. Yeah. Yes,
it look alike. It's fine. It looks it has a
bunch of shops.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It has a like Americana has kind of bumped into
a lot of its uh crowd, I guess foot traffic. Yeah,
but it's still got a bunch of shops in there,
and I like that Target is going to be good. Yeah,
still Town Center. Yeah, or better known as Fox Hills.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It is still fox Hill and that actually is uh
is where you got to go? Okay, Yeah, Fox Hills
Mall or the Topanga the Topanga Plaza or I don't
know if it's a plaza, but the Topanga Mall.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That mall is massive. Yeah, that one's huge. I take
my kid there every once in a while and you
get lost. Yeah. Yeah. My mother just texted me. She
said she was in the mall Sunday with my niece
getting her ready for school. It was packed. She didn't
say it was Dilamo's Mall or Telamo Mall or Crito small,
(26:02):
but yeah, I guess buying large. Southern California mall still
seem to be doing okay. The ones that I've been
to out of state when I'm traveling not doing okay
at all.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Remember the old days where when you'd say to your partner, Hey,
you want to go to the mall? Doesn't that seem
like ancient history? It was.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It was the best. It was a hangout. You can
go to the movies, you can go shopping, you can
go girl watching. It was It was great for that.
You didn't need to have a lot of money to
just hang out at the mall.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It would never occur to me to say such a
sentence in the English language. In the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Look, when I was twenty, from sixteen to twenty two,
hot Dog on a Stick was the place. Okay, that's
a whole thing. Yeah, goodness, the most beautiful girls were
working at Hot Dog on a Stick. Oh, no joke,
pounding that that lemonade, them little short shorts. Oh I had.
I have memories like the corners of my mind. Let
(26:57):
me tell you. Woh boy. Oh, they don't have hot
Dog on a stick anymore, do they they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I haven't seen uh. And there is one, well, okay,
the last time I saw one.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
There's one in the I believe, the Burbank, the Burbank Mall.
I haven't been in that one. There's one in Valley Village, okay.
And there's one in Glendale. There's one one in Glendale,
there's one in fox Hill. If you go to YouTube,
you can see her pounding that lemonade. That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh, yes, it was everything. Yes, it's good lemonade. Just
a second. You see you've seen that Mark. I didn't know.
Oh no, I'm a fan. You you didn't know about
that with hot Dog Gonna stick with it, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And there's some rhythm to that. Yes, yeah, they must
not have had it out there, Hammar.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're sixteen seventy years old. That was everything that was
better than porn. Well, it's certainly on a par with us.
Yes it is. And they were intentional with that. That
had to be intentional. Oh thank you for that.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I got the seven to eleven. I got the vote
them out of here. Rst J. C. Penny is coming
here because of me. You ask anybody, they'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We'll talk poultry Guyst when we come back. I am
six forty eleve everywhere n I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's from the nineteen eighty two movie Poultergeist. I'm talking
about the original, not that crappy ass remake they tried.
If you remember the movie in nineteen eighty two, the
house itself was a character where everything happened. And it's
a real house in SeeMe Valley And if you would like,
(28:39):
you can rent the house, which has been redesigned and
remodeled to mimic the set from nineteen eighty two. It's
a four bedroom house. It's located on Roxbury Street in
SeeMe Valley and it gives Renterest a chance to relive
the spooky and potentially traumatizing experience of the movie. And
if you remember what Joe Beth Williams, Craig T. Nelson,
(29:02):
some people thought that that movie set was haunted, or
it was it was. What's the word I'm looking for,
there's a curse on it.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Curse.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
There were some untimely deaths of some of the main characters.
Carol An died, the older sister Dominique Dunn died. Uh
Tangina Baron all are welcome. She died in a strange way.
And if you haven't seen the movies, it's still probably
(29:37):
one of the best thriller movies. I wouldn't call it
a horror movie. There is some horror to it, but
I watched it again recently. It still stands to test
the time.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
I don't know where very were strong enough to punch
a hole this wow can do away from you. He
keeps Caroline close to it and away.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
From the spectrum.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Nd it lies.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's his things.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Only your child can understand. He's been used to restrain
the others. It seems break is enough child.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
To us.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He used to be. And we're not talking about long
term rentals. You can reserve the house on a night
by night basis six hundred dollars a night and it
can sleep up to eight people and pets for those
brave enough to book a stay. Last year, the property
was listed for sale for the first time in more
(30:52):
than four decades. It sold for one point two eight million,
and so now they're renting it out so people like
U and B can experience the horror of the house.
And no, I would not spend a dollar. I would
not stay in that house for free. I do that.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
That sounds like fun. They remarked. It redecorated it. There's
like knocks in the on the wall and little things
to try and spook you.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
That that sounds like fun. It has probably the old
countertop from the movie. It probably looks something straight out
of nineteen eighty two. No, do not eat the chicken
in the fridge. That's oh yeah, don't don't do it.
Don't put your hand on the TV set, don't don't
do that. No, I'm not spending a night in a
haunted house like that. But we don't need to spend
the night. We could just go and take later in
(31:37):
mo Kelly Live there. Nope, Oh no, no, sir.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Can you imagine that light Carol that No, no, sir,
it's just a movie house.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Save it for the Amityville House. Let's all stay there
for the night. I'm not staying at the Poltergeist House.
I'm not staying at the Amityville House. I'm on to
be fine. I'm not staying at the Exorcist House. So
here's how I can run the mart. You just he goes,
you said, Mark on assignment.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I've done that. I did that for he even wants to. No, no,
I did it. I I used to do things like
that for fun. When I was a newspaper writer. I
would go do like thrill seeking things, and one of
those was to spend the night in a haunted Uh.
I guess it was a metal institution, sir.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Nope, I see something coming up here during the spooky season.
May not staying at Alcatraz. I'm not staying wherever they
did once fll over the Cuckoo's desk. I'm not staying
anywhere where stuff happens.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Well, we saw how terrified you were when somebody honked
their HORNATCHD.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You tried to kill me, trying to run me down.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I wouldn't expect you to stay in someplace legitimately scary.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Nick, Are you coming in studio? You're staying over there
in air MINX? Do you want me to stay in mix?
Of course? Okay, I was just wondering. It's just you know,
this disembodied voice. People don't know this. That's the perfect
thing for Poultter. Guys like, don't startle him. Yeah, just
don't try to run me down. Nick, I promise I'm
not that guy. Okay, if I am six forty, live
everywhere and I heart do you
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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