August 14, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the campaign to legalize the sale of beer, wine and liquor at ‘self-checkout’ stands in California Supermarkets…PLUS – A review of the new Hulu Si-Fi horror series ‘Alien: Earth’ AND thoughts on the apparent decline of one time radio giant Howard Stern - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Laid with Kelly six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I know I'm not the only one who's gone to
a grocery store maybe to get a bottle of wine
or a fifth of Jack Daniels or both.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
There's no judgment here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And then you don't want to stand in that long
ass line where you're about twenty people because the grocery
store will only have one checkout line open, and you think, well,
why didn't I just go ahead and mosey over to
the self checkout portion? And then you find out either
it's clothes, which is weird. It's not like they need
to have that open. I mean they have to have
that clothes at any time, or there's this one person
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who's just standing there trying to make sure you don't
use it to buy alcohol. That can't be only happening
to me. Well, now grocers are saying that they want
to open up those self checkout lines to people like
me and probably Mark Runner.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This comes as the United Food and Commercial Workers' Union
and some Democratic state lawmakers are pushing a bill that's
trying to prevent stores from having self checkout kiosks if
they don't meet staffing signage and item't limit you grocers
or argue that these regulations will add to the bottom line,
leading to higher grocery prices, and suggest that allowing alcohol
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sales at the kiosk may be the solution.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, allow alcohol sales at the kiosk. I don't go
to liquor stores anymore. It's like going to seven to eleven.
There's a higher propensity of getting shot there than at
a grocery store. So if I'm going to buy alcohol,
you know, in the rare occasions that I do, I
would like to be able to do it expeditiously without
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having to.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Wait in that long line.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Allow me to go to the self checkout and buy
my Jack Daniels in peace.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You believe in freedom, That much is clear.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I believe in freedom, and I believe in being quick
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't want to spend a lot of time in line.
It's like that at Costco too. I don't know if
you've noticed that, but if you've got booze, you cannot
do the self checkout.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I don't go to Costco enough, and when I do,
it's always with my wife, and we never do the
self checkout thing, like when we're buying food for the
Fourth of July for Chateau Limo.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh that's right, you didn't go oh that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But when we did go, I was buying all the
alcohol and you put it on the you know, the
cart with everything else. So it was never even a
consideration of going to self checkout because we had too
much damn food.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Were talking about being judgment free though, when you do
go through the checkout at Costco with a bunch of booze,
and this is just theoretical for me, I never touched
this stuff. The checkers are not the least bit judgmentally.
You could have a whole cart full of booze and
they're like, okay, must be having a party. Yeah, well,
it depends.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And I noticed this relative to the age of the
checkout person. Ah, the younger checkout person will say oh,
will verbalize oh, it looks like you're having a party.
And I want to say, mind your own freaking business
and just keep on boot scanning my stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, focus on the diapers of the person behind me, okay, right.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And it was a kind of like an understood agreement
where you don't comment on what people are buying, especially
not out loud.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay. Yeah, when I was in high school for a
few months, I worked at a grocery store, and I
made sure. It was before people knew a lot about
FBI profiling, and I did that to everybody who came
through the line.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think about the stuff that and I'm not going
to talk about specifically the stuff that I was not
real fond of buying in a store because everyone was
going to see that I was buying it. Okay, and
this was before they had Amazon. Okay, now you can
buy whatever you want. You don't have to worry about
the judgment of everyone around you looking at you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are you talking specifically about like a large tube of preparation?
H got that and some other things?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Okay, Okay, but we're not going to get too specific here, okay,
because it defeats the purpose. Otherwise, I mean, what's the
point if I'm If I'm embarrassed about going through a
checkout line, the last thing I'm going to do is
tell everyone talk about it right that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It doesn't exactly make sense.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's like, yes, I'm not going to talk about getting
the cream to get rid of the crabs.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, I'm not going to talk about it. I'm not
going to talk about it. I'm not going to ask
you about your horrible case of crabs either.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But the point is I'd never understood the rational behind
not allowing people to buy alcoholic self checkout. There's always
when the self checkout is open, invariably there's one person
who's supposed to be there to help you. Right if
you have a problem trying to find a code for
produce or something, or something's not scanning correctly, or it's
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not accepting your payment, there's usually a person there, an employee,
to assist you. Why is that person then not able
to verify your ID?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, there's probably legal department of booze or whatever the
hell it's called. Reasons, But now we know how much
people cheat, even when it comes to weighing their own
bulk foods. So you think people can be trusted with booze,
they can't. You can't trust people with anything. I've never
cheated on animals. I have never cheated. You are like
the one honest man when it comes to this. I've
never cheated on self checkout.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I usually go to Ralphs and at the self checkout,
they have another little like cash register that they stand
by the most of the time, and I just go
straight to that give them my ID and I'm like,
I want this, thanks, and they they check my ID,
they give me my alcohol and I leave.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They don't do that for me, and they don't do
that in the hood. Most of the liquors locked up anyhow,
so you have to find a person who is going
to unlock either unlock the liquor cabinet so you can
pull it out or depending on the roups, it's usually
beh in the quarner of the store where only the
cashier has the key in the cashier has to leave
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the checkout line to go to the liquor cabinet to
get whatever you're asking for, then bring it back and
then they'll ring it up.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they got to call an armed escort from the
manager's office. And it's a whole deal.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, no, seriously, it is a whole deal because depending
on the store, the routs by me, you have to
get someone to go to the liquor cabinet open it up.
And if you're at the liquor cabinet, which is in
the store on like one of the aisles as opposed
to behind the registers, they have to walk it up
to the register for you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
They will not put it in your hand. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The button, and you might as well go to the DMV.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And you might as well have everybody else behind you
in line just openly declara fat wa on you from
making them wait. Well, what I do is, would you
have to go to the liquor cabinet. If I see
someone else push the button, I just jump in line
right there at the liquor cabinet because it's like the
only going to come by once every fifteen to twenty minutes.
So you're lying in wait.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I have to wait because if I don't get it right,
then they'll have to call them back later.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They may not be as eager to come back. I
like how you plan this all out. But we're going
to get more freedom, though. Is that the upshot of
all this?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, that is the hope, that's the desire, that's the intent,
but I don't know if it's actually going to happen.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
This comes as the United Food and Commercial Workers Union
and some Democratic state lawmakers are pushing a bill that's
trying to prevent stores from having self checkout kiosks if
they don't need staffing, signage, and item limit. You grocers
or argue that these regulations will add to the bottom line.
It will leading to higher grocery prices. It will and
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suggest that allowing alcohol sales at the kiosk may be
the solution. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Often, I don't know if those ideas actually connect, but
I'm all for the idea of allowing alcohol sales at
self checkout and grocery prices already higher.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
If you've been to a store lately, everything's like twenty
percent higher. It's almost like they're terrorist or something impacting them.
You said it, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
KFI AM six forty We're live everywhere, in the iHeartRadio
app and on YouTube when we come back. Did you
hear about actor Alan Tudik, who was a guest on
this show, who was saying that he was cut out
of all the problem promotion for I Robot because his performance,
my word upstaged Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I want to go back and hear what he had
to say about that.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
In just a moment, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Forty KFI It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We're Live everywhere on YouTube, Instagra on Facebook and the
iHeartRadio app. And Mark Ronner and I we disagree on
the movie I Robot. I happen to think it's a
classic movie. I think it's one of the better movies
about AI, robots and the future than most.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Wow. I'm just glad Isaac Asimov was dead by the
time it came out, because it was just an abomination.
I said, we disagree. You know, I happened to like it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now put it this way, it probably I didn't read
the book. I've read his other books. I didn't read
this book, so I wasn't looking at it through that lens.
I was just viewing it as a movie. I was
unencumbered by any source material. I liked the performance of
Alan Tudic as Sonny the Robot. I liked Will Smith's performance.
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It was fine for what it was. And if you
don't remember the movie, here's a clip from I Robot.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
My father tried to teach me human emotions. They are difficult.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
You mean you're a designer, yes, So why'd you murder him?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I did not murder doctor Lanning.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Want to explain why you were hiding at the crime scene.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I was frightened.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Robots don't feel fear, they don't feel anything, they don't
get hungry, they don't sleep.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I have even had dreams.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Human beings have dreams, even dogs have dreams.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But not you.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
You are just a machine, an imitation of life. Can
a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a
canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Alan Tutic the actor opposite Will Smith. He performed in
motion capture and there was CGI overlay for his performance,
but he is actually physically in the scene with Will Smith.
He is the most prominent character in the movie with
Will Smith. If you remember, it was almost a trivia
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question as far as who was playing Sonny because Alan
Tudic was not mentioned anywhere in the promotion that much.
I do remember because I remember seeing the movies, like
I realized I know that voice, but it wasn't publicized.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He's terrific. Have you seen Resident Alien? We had him
on this show when it first came on. Well, yeah,
well he in my place. He is kind of brilliant.
He and not saying nothing of what he did with
Rogue one and h Firefly Serenity. Yeah, yeah, he's terrific
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and all that stuff. I've never seen him in a
bad Thing.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And also his live action work in Dodgeball he played
the pirate. Oh okay, yep, yep. Anyhow, he was on
a podcast and they were asking him about his career
and the subject of I Robot came up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
This is what Alan Tudick had to say, You mentioned
I Robot. Mm hmmm. So a lot of people didn't know.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
I did Sonny the Robot and I Robot. And there's
a reason I did that actually, because they were doing
test audiences with the with the movie, and they score
the characters in this kind of test audience and I've
got word back, Alan, you're testing higher than Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Nice it's about the slappy And then I was gone.
I was done.
Speaker 9 (12:27):
There was no publicity and my name was not mentioned.
They wanted to what you get yeah, and I was like, wait,
would how do they nobody's gonna know that I And they're.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like, m h uh. And that was such a good performance.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Stories, Yeah, I put a lot into it because yeah,
because he had to move like a robot, so I
had to move.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It was very I you know, it was whatever it was.
At the time, I was very upset.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would upset too, and thinking back, it does make
sense because you didn't know anything about Alan Tudic and
he was arguably the top co star in the movie.
Of course, it was Will Smith's movie, of course, but
he was the number two person.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Wasn't Sean McBride, it was Alent Tudic. You can't go
upstaging Will Smith. I think we all know what could happen,
and they were alluding to that in the conversation. I
don't know how sensitive Will would have been, I do.
We don't know if he was told that information.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I'm thinking like it would have only helped the marketing
of the movie because usually when they have at least
two strong characters, regardless of the stardom of the actors,
they're usually doing all the media together. Like if you
see him on Entertainment Tonight or whatever, they're usually sitting
in those two chairs and talking to the host at
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the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But I guess that was not in the car. So
what did you think of the movie? Though?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Twala break the tie between me and Bark It's not
a tie, yes it is.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
I read the book first. My mother has the collection.
I read the book because I heard it's coming. I
was curious and I love the book. The book is phenomenal.
It's a very very good book. When I saw this movie,
my first thought was, I don't know why you call
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this I robot. That was my first thought, because it
is such a it's not a huge departure, but it's
almost like it's based on ideas taken inspired by, inspired by,
It's more like that. But as a movie and as
a Will Smith movie, just a sci fi film, I
didn't mind it. Like if I had if I had
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no foreknowledge of it being based on this book and
I had not read the book, I probably would have
liked it a lot more. But it was like one
of those like the entire time you're watching it, you're like, no, man, no, no, no,
well knows. And unfortunately it did become a vehicle for
will Smith, almost like how Creed became just a vehicle
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for our Creed too became a vehicle for could be Jordan,
where you're like, yeah, but this is supposed to be
about continuing the legacy of Rocky and your father of
Pollo Creed, not you doing away with all that. But
I will like, I will say I did like the movie.
I'm not mad, not mad at the movie.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I actually wanted a sequel if there was a Will
Smith quote unquote movie.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I wanted a sequel to. I wanted to revisit the world.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I wanted to see what was the world that stunning
the robot built for his robot kind.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
I think if they were thinking about this correctly, if
they were, if they went into this film and looked
at the totality of the story that Asimov were telling,
they could have booked this as a multi picture deal.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And if you would have told chapters.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Or you know, like a one like yeah, if you
would have done that and really fleshed out the story,
they could have really done something. But try to put
all that story into one incomplete film.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's that's rough. I got some good news for both
of you. If you want to see a sequel to
a classic that Will Smith has desecrated, I think we're
gonna get one for I am legend. He is, Yeah, no, he.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
Is, because and it's based off of It's based off
of an alternate ending, which shows that Will Smith's character lives.
The question at hand is who is Michael B. Jordan playing?
What is his character? What is this connection to Will Smith?
Is just some son that he may have had the
son that you know that went off with the wife
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that he never got to see.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, who is this character again? Just glad poor
Richard Matheson, the author is long dead and doesn't have
to suffer this indignity.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I saw the alternate ending of I Am Legend.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's available on YouTube, you can find it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I wish they would have gone with that ending
in the first place. But what I saw in theaters
was the original ending, and obviously it kills Robert Neville's
his character, so there's really no more story to tell.
I don't know how they're going to rewire this to
have Robert Nevill be live and bring in Michael B. Jordan,
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but I'll still see he survived the blast and safe.
Do you think they even understood the book I Am
Legend or I Robot? No, No, they made something for
the movie screen, and I Am Legend severely disappointed me
because I knew it could have been so much better awful.
But hey, we agree. I Am six forty. Let's see
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if we'll agree on Alien Earth. The first two episodes
dropped yesterday. I saw them, and I saw them with
great reservations. I was thinking that this is probably going
to be horrible. I'll tell you what. It's probably the
best Alien franchise material. When I say material, book, movie,
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TV show of the past twenty five thirty years, no exaggeration.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
KFI Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And I was racing home last night because I was
actually interested in watching the new FX and Hulu show
Alien Earth before I heard too much from other people.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm a huge Alien fan.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I remember when my dad took me to see Alien
and movie theater, and I'm thinking now, as a fifty
five year old man, that it's not a good idea.
I came out in nineteen seventy nine. I was ten
years old. I was way too young to see in
the theater. Wait, yuh, you know because the original poster
and slogan for the movie is in space, nobody can
hear you scream.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
First horror movie set in space. It is a straight
up horror movie and it was scary then, and I
watched it, rewatched it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Uh, what is today Wednesday? Monday?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, No, excuse me Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And they were showing all the different Alien movies on
FX as a lead up to the debut of Alien Earth.
They've been really producing it and really promoting it. I
was ambivalent. It's like, okay, because the last things Alien
I saw Alien Romuless. I didn't hate. I liked it
for what it was. It had a lot of hokey
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callbacks and everything, but it was better than a lot
of the other Alien stuff which had come out, like
Prometheus and the sequel to Prometheus and the on a Prometheus,
and it's almost like they were all over the place
and they could not tell a cohesive, coherent story where
everything fell upon a singular timeline.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
They had the movie Alien Versus Predator. You know it is.
It was just it was it was garbage. It was garbage.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So I was looking to get back to the original
feel of the Ridley Scott first movie Alien. Alien Earth
feels a lot like it. In fact, I saw a
quote really Scott had saw the original episodes of Alien
Earth and in it and I don't want to be
too specific, but there are scenes which are directly comparable
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to the original Alien as far as camera shot.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
There's a spaceship, which.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Is from the same timeline as the Nostromo, and the
insides looked just like the Nostromo. And really, Scott said
something to the fact of that's my ship. In other words,
it is the congratulations of how well they matched the
feel and look of the original Alien.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
In the way that you look at a Star Wars
movie which was done in nineteen seventy seven versus a
Star Wars Universe movie which is done in the two thousands.
They use the familiar scrawl, The fonts are all the same,
so it feels like it's all one franchise moving forward.
This is what Alien Earth is. They use the same
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I'll say text if you will. If you know the Mother,
you know when they interface with the computer, it's that
bright green text.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
They go back to all of that.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
The sound effects are similar, the stages are very similar.
Why I'm not going to say you got to see it,
but it lets you know that it's happening around the
same time as a Nostromo. Specifically, it's two years before Alien,
and if you know the movie Alien, you know that
the Nostromo received this call from the Corporation Whalen Utani
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and they're saying no, no, no, don't go here. We need
you to go to planet LB four two six and
see what's going on over there. They do, and then
John Hurt gets attacked by the face hugger and we
get to see the alien jump out of his chest.
What we And we find out later that Ash the
Android was in on it, and he knew that all
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the crew was expendable, and the company knew about the
existence of this xenomorph, but no one else on the
ship knew. Alien Earth helps answer the question how and
when the whalen Utani Corporation knew about the Zto morph
and why they were trying to get the Zeno morph
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and why it ended up falling on the shoulders of
the Nostromo.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What hey, you just dropped a bombs out okay, Oh,
it's direct connection.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Was supposed to be the promise of Romulus that it
would They were supposed to advance the story in somehow,
and to me, they just pull their pants down and
pooed all over the film.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's almost like Rogue one in the sense of you
take a line from Star Wars and you turn it
into a whole story that's what they've done here, because
you know that the Corporation knew about the Xeno Morph,
and they told the n Strummle to go to this
planet to basically find the Xeno Morph. But we don't
know how and why the Corporation knew prior to that moment.
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Now they're setting up, they're letting you know how Whale
and Newtwani came into power, how they got to be
such a dominant world force, and some of the other
forces that are working against it. Oh no, it's it's
an easter egg hunt through and through and Mark, you
saw the first episode, what did you think.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I liked it nearly as much as you. I'm a
little bit more apprehensive. I like the look that they
absolutely nailed of the original and by the way, you
wanted to rub it interviewing Alan Tutic in my face.
One of my favorite experiences as a journalist was watching
The Original Alien with Tom Scarett in his basement and
it's turning the tape recorder on and letting it record
us talk while we're alive. Watch the movie. Yeah, yeah,
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And he's a preposterously good looking older man too. I
hate him for that, But I love the first Alien
and to me, nothing has come close to touching it.
The second one, Aliens is great fun, but the first
one is the stone cold masterpiece. And kind of like
Star Wars, the franchise got by on the goodwill of
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the first two movies for years and years and years,
and now maybe maybe we've got something that's worthy of
the first one. We'll see as they play out. You've
seen two, I've seen one. I like the first one
a lot. Let me tie some things together for people
who may not know or remember. The first Alien takes
place in space. They're told to go to LV four
two six. The plant with the Xeno More Aliens.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Takes place on LV four two six, where the company
Wail and Utani, has decided to set up a colony there,
knowing good and well that the xenomorphs are going to
get them, and they would have some hosts and they'll
be able to harvest the xenomorphs from them. This is
basically telling the story in reverse, where they're setting up
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all these things which you say, oh, that's going to
be this, Oh, oh that's going to be that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Now. I mentioned to you off air that they're shorthanding
a lot of things. We already know, because you're never
going to get the same suspense that you got in
the first one when it assumes that you've seen Alien. Yeah,
the chest burster, the you know, all of it, the
fully grown Xenomorph, and they're pretty clever the way they're
doing that. And also, this doesn't spoil anything. You know
you're going to see a Xenomorph going into this. The
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way they depict them is pretty alarming, and they're very unstoppable, yes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Not that they were nerving the original, but this is
the Xenomorph unleashed, and you get a better sense of
their intelligence and the wide variety of ways that they
can kill people.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, don't bring the perfect killing machine from another planet
to Earth. Not recommended. If we have to yelp that
it's going to get low marked. Yeah, and put it
this way. They don't hold back. They don't wait to
get you in the story. In the original.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Alien, you had to wait I don't know, maybe good
forty forty five minutes before you actually saw anything of
the full grown alien.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's not the case here. No, And without spoiling anything,
there's a scene where a Xenomorph is trying to get
at somebody and it's really close. I was on the
edge of my seat right right.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's cinematic quality, no exaggeration, it's cinematic quality. I would
have been happy to have seen that in a theater
and pay good money for it.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Now, this reminds me, and the way you're telling this
and what you're saying about it reminds me of what
our friend Dan Trackerberg is doing with the Predator franchise, reimagining,
re envision and making it more serious to get and
bringing it back to the core. And he hit it
at Common Con this year that there is a path
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that both he and the Aliens creators are on to
actually bring the franchises together in the right way. So
there are things that we will see in the upcoming
bad Lands that starts tying these two franchises in together
where you're gonna be like, oh, this is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Actually what we were waiting for.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't mind the crossover, just don't be hooky and
stupid with it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Alien was never silly. The original Predator was not silly.
So how we ended up with a silly crossover I
don't get well. And that's why we see Prey. You're like,
oh no, this isn't this is not all fun? This
is there was nothing. There was nothing fun no about pray.
That was all just murder. And then when you see
Killer of Killers so tall, as soon as you get
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a chance, I know you're not gonna watch it at
night in the dark, watch it daytime. I'm highly highly recommend.
If you love the original Alien then Alien Earth is
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Ally you can you can FaceTime me if you get scared.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'll still be up kf I AM six forty if
you want to talk a little Howard and Stern when
we come back here Live Everywhere to rest your radio.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
KFI mis from O Kelly here Live Everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app. And if you work in this business talk radio,
that is, you are inevitably, undeniably influenced by others who've
come before you. You may not directly emulate them, but
you're aware of them, and you're aware of how they
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became so successful. It could be a Rush Limbaugh, it
could be a Don Imus, it could be someone like
Howard Stern and I followed his career for many, many
years and there's probably nothing similar about what he does
and what I strive to do. But you still learn
from people, either implicitly or explicitly. You can learn just
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by watching them or listening to them, how they do,
what they do, how they built their empire.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And there's been growing.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Speculation that SERIOUSXM is not going to renew his contract,
and I guess you could say fire him, and let's
be honest, it's not something we should overthink. Howard Stern
is not the radio powerhouse today that he was twenty
five years ago. SERIOUSXM is paying Howard Stern presently one
(29:40):
hundred million dollars per year.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Per year, per year.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Does he have an equal return on that investment for SERIOUSXM.
Maybe he's not pully in the dollars and the subscribers
that he once did, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He's seventy one years old.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, the radio audience has changed twenty five years ago.
The people who weren't even born are now a part
of the radio landscape and they're listening to podcasts or
listening to Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
They may be listening tool barstool Sports.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know, they could be listening to Candice Oulans, they
could be listening to any number of people, not just
a radio shock jock like Howard Stern. When Howard Stern
came along, he was pretty much unique. I mentioned like
don Imus, I would say he was the closest corollary.
But Howard Stern was asking questions that people thought, well,
(30:41):
oh my gosh, how could you ask that. He was
having conversations and asking people all this personal information and
sex positions, and it was unheard of at the time.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He was such a skilled interviewer that I think people
got thrown by the salacious quality of the stuff that
he did. He really knew how to manipulate people into
giving answers that you weren't going to see anywhere else.
And one of my favorite Howard Stern things, which I
just saw recently again on YouTube, wasn't even on a show.
It was him talking with Tom Snyder and making Snyder
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so angry that Snyder just ripped off his mic and
walked off in the middle of the credits.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But it's one of those things where and this is
where he was a master still is when you do
an interview with someone, your job as a host or
interviewer is to develop a level of rapport where someone
feels comfortable enough as a guest to forget that they're
in an interview and they're just answering questions, like you're
just two people having a conversation, and they're less on
(31:42):
guard and they will tell you things that they wouldn't
necessarily tell an interview were as opposed to someone just
riffing and having a conversation with Howard Stern masterful at that,
and so he was able to get certain answers out
of people that no one else could. At the same time,
he was the only one who was able to do that.
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Now it's kind of pass a because in the podcast world,
you can curse, you.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Can talk about anything.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You'd have long form conversations without commercials, and you have
a whole generation of people who did not grow up
listening to Howard Stern, who don't care about Howard Stern.
It's just a generational difference. It's not necessarily that Howard
Stern has lost it. But when you're paying someone one
hundred million dollars per year, there are probably other options
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that serious XM is pursuing, or at least looking into.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
He's going to be okay, I think he's mellowed with age.
If you've listened to him recently, he's mellowed with age.
And this is as people have finally kind of reverse
engineered what he did and how it worked. He's always
going to be the master, and with the kind of
dough he's accumulated, I'm not worried about him, but I
am curious if he plans to do something else or
just hire quietly, his wife raises shelter.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Cats and kittens, and there's something else in this equation
we don't know. I don't know if there's any more
fire burning in Stern's belly, because after a certain point,
it doesn't really change. If there's something else he wants
to do. If he wants to go into not like
a late night show, but just just an interview show
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where it's a different formulation of what he's been doing
or some pet project, then maybe he will continue on.
But I don't get the sense that he has the
same desire to do what he's been doing for the
past thirty thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Well, he's definitely not the same guy who did those
pay per view but bongo bonanza things from what twenty
thirty years ago did you see any of those. Of
course I did. They were pretty outrageous, and like you said,
the guy's seventy one.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Now it's okay to outgrow some of that. Yeah, very quickly.
I know we're over, but I gotta say this. I
remember when I was working for Ryan's Seacrest, and here's
the correlation. I was working for Ryan Seacrest when he
took over for Rick D's when he took over for
Casey Kaseum.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Both legends in their own right.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But that's how this business works, where after a certain
point you're aged out and you'll have someone younger who
is capturing the imagination or the audience of that younger demographic.
Howard Stern is not any less good now than he
was twenty five years ago. It's just that he's seventy
one now trying to talk to the same twenty five
to fifty four year old audience, which is probably listening
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to Joe Rogan now.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Also, the show's not the same since Ronnie the Limo
Driver left for that too.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I know I'm not the only one.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I know I'm not the only one who's gone to
a grocery store maybe to get a bottle of wine
or a fifth of Jack Daniels or both.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
There's no judgment here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And then you don't want to stand in that long
ass line where you're about twenty people because the grocery
store will only have one checkout line open, and you think, well,
why didn't I just go ahead and mosey over to
the self checkout portion? And then you find out either
it's clothes, which is weird. It's not like they need
to have that open. I mean they have to have
that clothes at any time, or there's this one person
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who's just standing there trying to make sure you don't
use it to buy alcohol. That can't be only happening
to me. Well, now grocers are saying that they want
to open up those self checkout lines to people like
me and probably Mark Runner.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
This comes as the United Food and Commercial Workers' Union
and some Democratic state lawmakers are pushing a bill that's
trying to prevent stores from having self checkout kiosks if
they don't meet staffing signage and item't limit you grocers
or argue that these regulations will add to the bottom line,
leading to higher grocery prices, and suggest that allowing alcohol
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sales at the kiosk may be the solution.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yes, allow alcohol sales at the kiosk. I don't go
to liquor stores anymore. It's like going to seven to eleven.
There's a higher propensity of getting shot there than at
a grocery store. So if I'm going to buy alcohol,
you know, in the rare occasions that I do, I
would like to be able to do it expeditiously without
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having to.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Wait in that long line.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Allow me to go to the self checkout and buy
my Jack Daniels in peace.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You believe in freedom, That much is clear.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I believe in freedom, and I believe in being quick
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I don't want to spend a lot of time in line.
It's like that at Costco too. I don't know if
you've noticed that, but if you've got booze, you cannot
do the self checkout.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I don't go to Costco enough, and when I do,
it's always with my wife, and we never do the
self checkout thing, like when we're buying food for the
Fourth of July for Chateau Limo.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh that's right, you didn't go oh that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But when we did go, I was buying all the
alcohol and you put it on the you know, the
cart with everything else. So it was never even a
consideration of going to self checkout because we had too
much damn food.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Were talking about being judgment free though, when you do
go through the checkout at Costco with a bunch of booze,
and this is just theoretical for me, I never touched
this stuff. The checkers are not the least bit judgmentally.
You could have a whole cart full of booze and
they're like, okay, must be having a party. Yeah, well,
it depends.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And I noticed this relative to the age of the
checkout person. Ah, the younger checkout person will say oh,
will verbalize oh, it looks like you're having a party.
And I want to say, mind your own freaking business
and just keep on boot scanning my stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, focus on the diapers of the person behind me, okay, right.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And it was a kind of like an understood agreement
where you don't comment on what people are buying, especially
not out loud.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay. Yeah, when I was in high school for a
few months, I worked at a grocery store, and I
made sure. It was before people knew a lot about
FBI profiling, and I did that to everybody who came
through the line.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I think about the stuff that and I'm not going
to talk about specifically the stuff that I was not
real fond of buying in a store because everyone was
going to see that I was buying it. Okay, and
this was before they had Amazon. Okay, now you can
buy whatever you want. You don't have to worry about
the judgment of everyone around you looking at you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Are you talking specifically about like a large tube of preparation?
H got that and some other things?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Okay, Okay, but we're not going to get too specific here, okay,
because it defeats the purpose. Otherwise, I mean, what's the
point if I'm If I'm embarrassed about going through a
checkout line, the last thing I'm going to do is
tell everyone talk about it right that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It doesn't exactly make sense.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's like, yes, I'm not going to talk about getting
the cream to get rid of the crabs.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, I'm not going to talk about it. I'm not
going to talk about it. I'm not going to ask
you about your horrible case of crabs either.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But the point is I'd never understood the rational behind
not allowing people to buy alcoholic self checkout. There's always
when the self checkout is open, invariably there's one person
who's supposed to be there to help you. Right if
you have a problem trying to find a code for
produce or something, or something's not scanning correctly, or it's
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not accepting your payment, there's usually a person there, an employee,
to assist you. Why is that person then not able
to verify your ID?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, there's probably legal department of booze or whatever the
hell it's called. Reasons, But now we know how much
people cheat, even when it comes to weighing their own
bulk foods. So you think people can be trusted with booze,
they can't. You can't trust people with anything. I've never
cheated on animals. I have never cheated. You are like
the one honest man when it comes to this. I've
never cheated on self checkout.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I usually go to Ralphs and at the self checkout,
they have another little like cash register that they stand
by the most of the time, and I just go
straight to that give them my ID and I'm like,
I want this, thanks, and they they check my ID,
they give me my alcohol and I leave.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They don't do that for me, and they don't do
that in the hood. Most of the liquors locked up anyhow,
so you have to find a person who is going
to unlock either unlock the liquor cabinet so you can
pull it out or depending on the roups, it's usually
beh in the quarner of the store where only the
cashier has the key in the cashier has to leave
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the checkout line to go to the liquor cabinet to
get whatever you're asking for, then bring it back and
then they'll ring it up.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they got to call an armed escort from the
manager's office. And it's a whole deal.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, no, seriously, it is a whole deal because depending
on the store, the routs by me, you have to
get someone to go to the liquor cabinet open it up.
And if you're at the liquor cabinet, which is in
the store on like one of the aisles as opposed
to behind the registers, they have to walk it up
to the register for you.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
They will not put it in your hand. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The button, and you might as well go to the DMV.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And you might as well have everybody else behind you
in line just openly declara fat wa on you from
making them wait. Well, what I do is, would you
have to go to the liquor cabinet. If I see
someone else push the button, I just jump in line
right there at the liquor cabinet because it's like the
only going to come by once every fifteen to twenty minutes.
So you're lying in wait.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I have to wait because if I don't get it right,
then they'll have to call them back later.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
They may not be as eager to come back. I
like how you plan this all out. But we're going
to get more freedom, though. Is that the upshot of
all this?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, that is the hope, that's the desire, that's the intent,
but I don't know if it's actually going to happen.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
This comes as the United Food and Commercial Workers Union
and some Democratic state lawmakers are pushing a bill that's
trying to prevent stores from having self checkout kiosks if
they don't need staffing, signage, and item limit. You grocers
or argue that these regulations will add to the bottom line.
It will leading to higher grocery prices. It will and
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suggest that allowing alcohol sales at the kiosk may be
the solution. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Often, I don't know if those ideas actually connect, but
I'm all for the idea of allowing alcohol sales at
self checkout and grocery prices already higher.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
If you've been to a store lately, everything's like twenty
percent higher. It's almost like they're terrorist or something impacting them.
You said it, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
KFI AM six forty We're live everywhere, in the iHeartRadio
app and on YouTube when we come back. Did you
hear about actor Alan Tudik, who was a guest on
this show, who was saying that he was cut out
of all the problem promotion for I Robot because his performance,
my word upstaged Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I want to go back and hear what he had
to say about that.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
In just a moment, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Forty KFI It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We're Live everywhere on YouTube, Instagra on Facebook and the
iHeartRadio app. And Mark Ronner and I we disagree on
the movie I Robot. I happen to think it's a
classic movie. I think it's one of the better movies
about AI, robots and the future than most.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Wow. I'm just glad Isaac Asimov was dead by the
time it came out, because it was just an abomination.
I said, we disagree. You know, I happened to like it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now put it this way, it probably I didn't read
the book. I've read his other books. I didn't read
this book, so I wasn't looking at it through that lens.
I was just viewing it as a movie. I was
unencumbered by any source material. I liked the performance of
Alan Tudic as Sonny the Robot. I liked Will Smith's performance.
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It was fine for what it was. And if you
don't remember the movie, here's a clip from I Robot.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
My father tried to teach me human emotions. They are difficult.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
You mean you're a designer, yes, So why'd you murder him?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I did not murder doctor Lanning.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Want to explain why you were hiding at the crime scene.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I was frightened.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Robots don't feel fear, they don't feel anything, they don't
get hungry, they don't sleep.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I have even had dreams.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Human beings have dreams, even dogs have dreams.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But not you.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
You are just a machine, an imitation of life. Can
a robot write a symphony? Can a robot turn a
canvas into a beautiful masterpiece?
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Alan Tutic the actor opposite Will Smith. He performed in
motion capture and there was CGI overlay for his performance,
but he is actually physically in the scene with Will Smith.
He is the most prominent character in the movie with
Will Smith. If you remember, it was almost a trivia
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question as far as who was playing Sonny because Alan
Tudic was not mentioned anywhere in the promotion that much.
I do remember because I remember seeing the movies, like
I realized I know that voice, but it wasn't publicized.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He's terrific. Have you seen Resident Alien? We had him
on this show when it first came on. Well, yeah,
well he in my place. He is kind of brilliant.
He and not saying nothing of what he did with
Rogue one and h Firefly Serenity. Yeah, yeah, he's terrific
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and all that stuff. I've never seen him in a
bad Thing.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And also his live action work in Dodgeball he played
the pirate. Oh okay, yep, yep. Anyhow, he was on
a podcast and they were asking him about his career
and the subject of I Robot came up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
This is what Alan Tudick had to say, You mentioned
I Robot. Mm hmmm. So a lot of people didn't know.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
I did Sonny the Robot and I Robot. And there's
a reason I did that actually, because they were doing
test audiences with the with the movie, and they score
the characters in this kind of test audience and I've
got word back, Alan, you're testing higher than Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Nice it's about the slappy And then I was gone.
I was done.
Speaker 9 (12:27):
There was no publicity and my name was not mentioned.
They wanted to what you get yeah, and I was like, wait,
would how do they nobody's gonna know that I And they're.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like, m h uh. And that was such a good performance.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Stories, Yeah, I put a lot into it because yeah,
because he had to move like a robot, so I
had to move.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It was very I you know, it was whatever it was.
At the time, I was very upset.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I would upset too, and thinking back, it does make
sense because you didn't know anything about Alan Tudic and
he was arguably the top co star in the movie.
Of course, it was Will Smith's movie, of course, but
he was the number two person.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Wasn't Sean McBride, it was Alent Tudic. You can't go
upstaging Will Smith. I think we all know what could happen,
and they were alluding to that in the conversation. I
don't know how sensitive Will would have been, I do.
We don't know if he was told that information.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I'm thinking like it would have only helped the marketing
of the movie because usually when they have at least
two strong characters, regardless of the stardom of the actors,
they're usually doing all the media together. Like if you
see him on Entertainment Tonight or whatever, they're usually sitting
in those two chairs and talking to the host at
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the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But I guess that was not in the car. So
what did you think of the movie? Though?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Twala break the tie between me and Bark It's not
a tie, yes it is.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
I read the book first. My mother has the collection.
I read the book because I heard it's coming. I
was curious and I love the book. The book is phenomenal.
It's a very very good book. When I saw this movie,
my first thought was, I don't know why you call
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this I robot. That was my first thought, because it
is such a it's not a huge departure, but it's
almost like it's based on ideas taken inspired by, inspired by,
It's more like that. But as a movie and as
a Will Smith movie, just a sci fi film, I
didn't mind it. Like if I had if I had
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no foreknowledge of it being based on this book and
I had not read the book, I probably would have
liked it a lot more. But it was like one
of those like the entire time you're watching it, you're like, no, man, no, no, no,
well knows. And unfortunately it did become a vehicle for
will Smith, almost like how Creed became just a vehicle
(15:07):
for our Creed too became a vehicle for could be Jordan,
where you're like, yeah, but this is supposed to be
about continuing the legacy of Rocky and your father of
Pollo Creed, not you doing away with all that. But
I will like, I will say I did like the movie.
I'm not mad, not mad at the movie.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I actually wanted a sequel if there was a Will
Smith quote unquote movie.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I wanted a sequel to. I wanted to revisit the world.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I wanted to see what was the world that stunning
the robot built for his robot kind.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
I think if they were thinking about this correctly, if
they were, if they went into this film and looked
at the totality of the story that Asimov were telling,
they could have booked this as a multi picture deal.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And if you would have told chapters.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Or you know, like a one like yeah, if you
would have done that and really fleshed out the story,
they could have really done something. But try to put
all that story into one incomplete film.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's that's rough. I got some good news for both
of you. If you want to see a sequel to
a classic that Will Smith has desecrated, I think we're
gonna get one for I am legend. He is, Yeah, no, he.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
Is, because and it's based off of It's based off
of an alternate ending, which shows that Will Smith's character lives.
The question at hand is who is Michael B. Jordan playing?
What is his character? What is this connection to Will Smith?
Is just some son that he may have had the
son that you know that went off with the wife
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that he never got to see.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, who is this character again? Just glad poor
Richard Matheson, the author is long dead and doesn't have
to suffer this indignity.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I saw the alternate ending of I Am Legend.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's available on YouTube, you can find it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And I wish they would have gone with that ending
in the first place. But what I saw in theaters
was the original ending, and obviously it kills Robert Neville's
his character, so there's really no more story to tell.
I don't know how they're going to rewire this to
have Robert Nevill be live and bring in Michael B. Jordan,
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but I'll still see he survived the blast and safe.
Do you think they even understood the book I Am
Legend or I Robot? No, No, they made something for
the movie screen, and I Am Legend severely disappointed me
because I knew it could have been so much better awful.
But hey, we agree. I Am six forty. Let's see
(17:43):
if we'll agree on Alien Earth. The first two episodes
dropped yesterday. I saw them, and I saw them with
great reservations. I was thinking that this is probably going
to be horrible. I'll tell you what. It's probably the
best Alien franchise material. When I say material, book, movie,
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TV show of the past twenty five thirty years, no exaggeration.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
KFI Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And I was racing home last night because I was
actually interested in watching the new FX and Hulu show
Alien Earth before I heard too much from other people.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm a huge Alien fan.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I remember when my dad took me to see Alien
and movie theater, and I'm thinking now, as a fifty
five year old man, that it's not a good idea.
I came out in nineteen seventy nine. I was ten
years old. I was way too young to see in
the theater. Wait, yuh, you know because the original poster
and slogan for the movie is in space, nobody can
hear you scream.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It was the.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
First horror movie set in space. It is a straight
up horror movie and it was scary then, and I
watched it, rewatched it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Uh, what is today Wednesday? Monday?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, No, excuse me Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And they were showing all the different Alien movies on
FX as a lead up to the debut of Alien Earth.
They've been really producing it and really promoting it. I
was ambivalent. It's like, okay, because the last things Alien
I saw Alien Romuless. I didn't hate. I liked it
for what it was. It had a lot of hokey
(19:51):
callbacks and everything, but it was better than a lot
of the other Alien stuff which had come out, like
Prometheus and the sequel to Prometheus and the on a Prometheus,
and it's almost like they were all over the place
and they could not tell a cohesive, coherent story where
everything fell upon a singular timeline.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
They had the movie Alien Versus Predator. You know it is.
It was just it was it was garbage. It was garbage.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So I was looking to get back to the original
feel of the Ridley Scott first movie Alien. Alien Earth
feels a lot like it. In fact, I saw a
quote really Scott had saw the original episodes of Alien
Earth and in it and I don't want to be
too specific, but there are scenes which are directly comparable
(20:45):
to the original Alien as far as camera shot.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
There's a spaceship, which.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Is from the same timeline as the Nostromo, and the
insides looked just like the Nostromo. And really, Scott said
something to the fact of that's my ship. In other words,
it is the congratulations of how well they matched the
feel and look of the original Alien.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
In the way that you look at a Star Wars
movie which was done in nineteen seventy seven versus a
Star Wars Universe movie which is done in the two thousands.
They use the familiar scrawl, The fonts are all the same,
so it feels like it's all one franchise moving forward.
This is what Alien Earth is. They use the same
(21:31):
I'll say text if you will. If you know the Mother,
you know when they interface with the computer, it's that
bright green text.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
They go back to all of that.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
The sound effects are similar, the stages are very similar.
Why I'm not going to say you got to see it,
but it lets you know that it's happening around the
same time as a Nostromo. Specifically, it's two years before Alien,
and if you know the movie Alien, you know that
the Nostromo received this call from the Corporation Whalen Utani
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and they're saying no, no, no, don't go here. We need
you to go to planet LB four two six and
see what's going on over there. They do, and then
John Hurt gets attacked by the face hugger and we
get to see the alien jump out of his chest.
What we And we find out later that Ash the
Android was in on it, and he knew that all
(22:27):
the crew was expendable, and the company knew about the
existence of this xenomorph, but no one else on the
ship knew. Alien Earth helps answer the question how and
when the whalen Utani Corporation knew about the Zto morph
and why they were trying to get the Zeno morph
(22:47):
and why it ended up falling on the shoulders of
the Nostromo.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What hey, you just dropped a bombs out okay, Oh,
it's direct connection.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Was supposed to be the promise of Romulus that it
would They were supposed to advance the story in somehow,
and to me, they just pull their pants down and
pooed all over the film.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's almost like Rogue one in the sense of you
take a line from Star Wars and you turn it
into a whole story that's what they've done here, because
you know that the Corporation knew about the Xeno Morph,
and they told the n Strummle to go to this
planet to basically find the Xeno Morph. But we don't
know how and why the Corporation knew prior to that moment.
(23:32):
Now they're setting up, they're letting you know how Whale
and Newtwani came into power, how they got to be
such a dominant world force, and some of the other
forces that are working against it. Oh no, it's it's
an easter egg hunt through and through and Mark, you
saw the first episode, what did you think.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I liked it nearly as much as you. I'm a
little bit more apprehensive. I like the look that they
absolutely nailed of the original and by the way, you
wanted to rub it interviewing Alan Tutic in my face.
One of my favorite experiences as a journalist was watching
The Original Alien with Tom Scarett in his basement and
it's turning the tape recorder on and letting it record
us talk while we're alive. Watch the movie. Yeah, yeah,
(24:14):
And he's a preposterously good looking older man too. I
hate him for that, But I love the first Alien
and to me, nothing has come close to touching it.
The second one, Aliens is great fun, but the first
one is the stone cold masterpiece. And kind of like
Star Wars, the franchise got by on the goodwill of
(24:34):
the first two movies for years and years and years,
and now maybe maybe we've got something that's worthy of
the first one. We'll see as they play out. You've
seen two, I've seen one. I like the first one
a lot. Let me tie some things together for people
who may not know or remember. The first Alien takes
place in space. They're told to go to LV four
two six. The plant with the Xeno More Aliens.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Takes place on LV four two six, where the company
Wail and Utani, has decided to set up a colony there,
knowing good and well that the xenomorphs are going to
get them, and they would have some hosts and they'll
be able to harvest the xenomorphs from them. This is
basically telling the story in reverse, where they're setting up
(25:17):
all these things which you say, oh, that's going to
be this, Oh, oh that's going to be that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Now. I mentioned to you off air that they're shorthanding
a lot of things. We already know, because you're never
going to get the same suspense that you got in
the first one when it assumes that you've seen Alien. Yeah,
the chest burster, the you know, all of it, the
fully grown Xenomorph, and they're pretty clever the way they're
doing that. And also, this doesn't spoil anything. You know
you're going to see a Xenomorph going into this. The
(25:44):
way they depict them is pretty alarming, and they're very unstoppable, yes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Not that they were nerving the original, but this is
the Xenomorph unleashed, and you get a better sense of
their intelligence and the wide variety of ways that they
can kill people.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, don't bring the perfect killing machine from another planet
to Earth. Not recommended. If we have to yelp that
it's going to get low marked. Yeah, and put it
this way. They don't hold back. They don't wait to
get you in the story. In the original.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Alien, you had to wait I don't know, maybe good
forty forty five minutes before you actually saw anything of
the full grown alien.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's not the case here. No, And without spoiling anything,
there's a scene where a Xenomorph is trying to get
at somebody and it's really close. I was on the
edge of my seat right right.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's cinematic quality, no exaggeration, it's cinematic quality. I would
have been happy to have seen that in a theater
and pay good money for it.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
Now, this reminds me, and the way you're telling this
and what you're saying about it reminds me of what
our friend Dan Trackerberg is doing with the Predator franchise, reimagining,
re envision and making it more serious to get and
bringing it back to the core. And he hit it
at Common Con this year that there is a path
(27:11):
that both he and the Aliens creators are on to
actually bring the franchises together in the right way. So
there are things that we will see in the upcoming
bad Lands that starts tying these two franchises in together
where you're gonna be like, oh, this is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Actually what we were waiting for.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't mind the crossover, just don't be hooky and
stupid with it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Alien was never silly. The original Predator was not silly.
So how we ended up with a silly crossover I
don't get well. And that's why we see Prey. You're like,
oh no, this isn't this is not all fun? This
is there was nothing. There was nothing fun no about pray.
That was all just murder. And then when you see
Killer of Killers so tall, as soon as you get
(27:56):
a chance, I know you're not gonna watch it at
night in the dark, watch it daytime. I'm highly highly recommend.
If you love the original Alien then Alien Earth is
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Ally you can you can FaceTime me if you get scared.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
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you want to talk a little Howard and Stern when
we come back here Live Everywhere to rest your radio.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
KFI mis from O Kelly here Live Everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app. And if you work in this business talk radio,
that is, you are inevitably, undeniably influenced by others who've
come before you. You may not directly emulate them, but
you're aware of them, and you're aware of how they
(28:47):
became so successful. It could be a Rush Limbaugh, it
could be a Don Imus, it could be someone like
Howard Stern and I followed his career for many, many
years and there's probably nothing similar about what he does
and what I strive to do. But you still learn
from people, either implicitly or explicitly. You can learn just
(29:10):
by watching them or listening to them, how they do,
what they do, how they built their empire.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And there's been growing.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Speculation that SERIOUSXM is not going to renew his contract,
and I guess you could say fire him, and let's
be honest, it's not something we should overthink. Howard Stern
is not the radio powerhouse today that he was twenty
five years ago. SERIOUSXM is paying Howard Stern presently one
(29:40):
hundred million dollars per year.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Per year, per year.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Does he have an equal return on that investment for SERIOUSXM.
Maybe he's not pully in the dollars and the subscribers
that he once did, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He's seventy one years old.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, the radio audience has changed twenty five years ago.
The people who weren't even born are now a part
of the radio landscape and they're listening to podcasts or
listening to Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
They may be listening tool barstool Sports.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know, they could be listening to Candice Oulans, they
could be listening to any number of people, not just
a radio shock jock like Howard Stern. When Howard Stern
came along, he was pretty much unique. I mentioned like
don Imus, I would say he was the closest corollary.
But Howard Stern was asking questions that people thought, well,
(30:41):
oh my gosh, how could you ask that. He was
having conversations and asking people all this personal information and
sex positions, and it was unheard of at the time.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He was such a skilled interviewer that I think people
got thrown by the salacious quality of the stuff that
he did. He really knew how to manipulate people into
giving answers that you weren't going to see anywhere else.
And one of my favorite Howard Stern things, which I
just saw recently again on YouTube, wasn't even on a show.
It was him talking with Tom Snyder and making Snyder
(31:15):
so angry that Snyder just ripped off his mic and
walked off in the middle of the credits.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But it's one of those things where and this is
where he was a master still is when you do
an interview with someone, your job as a host or
interviewer is to develop a level of rapport where someone
feels comfortable enough as a guest to forget that they're
in an interview and they're just answering questions, like you're
just two people having a conversation, and they're less on
(31:42):
guard and they will tell you things that they wouldn't
necessarily tell an interview were as opposed to someone just
riffing and having a conversation with Howard Stern masterful at that,
and so he was able to get certain answers out
of people that no one else could. At the same time,
he was the only one who was able to do that.
(32:05):
Now it's kind of pass a because in the podcast world,
you can curse, you.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Can talk about anything.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You'd have long form conversations without commercials, and you have
a whole generation of people who did not grow up
listening to Howard Stern, who don't care about Howard Stern.
It's just a generational difference. It's not necessarily that Howard
Stern has lost it. But when you're paying someone one
hundred million dollars per year, there are probably other options
(32:35):
that serious XM is pursuing, or at least looking into.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
He's going to be okay, I think he's mellowed with age.
If you've listened to him recently, he's mellowed with age.
And this is as people have finally kind of reverse
engineered what he did and how it worked. He's always
going to be the master, and with the kind of
dough he's accumulated, I'm not worried about him, but I
am curious if he plans to do something else or
just hire quietly, his wife raises shelter.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Cats and kittens, and there's something else in this equation
we don't know. I don't know if there's any more
fire burning in Stern's belly, because after a certain point,
it doesn't really change. If there's something else he wants
to do. If he wants to go into not like
a late night show, but just just an interview show
(33:24):
where it's a different formulation of what he's been doing
or some pet project, then maybe he will continue on.
But I don't get the sense that he has the
same desire to do what he's been doing for the
past thirty thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Well, he's definitely not the same guy who did those
pay per view but bongo bonanza things from what twenty
thirty years ago did you see any of those. Of
course I did. They were pretty outrageous, and like you said,
the guy's seventy one.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Now it's okay to outgrow some of that. Yeah, very quickly.
I know we're over, but I gotta say this. I
remember when I was working for Ryan's Seacrest, and here's
the correlation. I was working for Ryan Seacrest when he
took over for Rick D's when he took over for
Casey Kaseum.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Both legends in their own right.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But that's how this business works, where after a certain
point you're aged out and you'll have someone younger who
is capturing the imagination or the audience of that younger demographic.
Howard Stern is not any less good now than he
was twenty five years ago. It's just that he's seventy
one now trying to talk to the same twenty five
to fifty four year old audience, which is probably listening
(34:34):
to Joe Rogan now.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Also, the show's not the same since Ronnie the Limo
Driver left for that too.
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