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Speaker 1 (00:22):
KFI six forty years later with mo Kelly what Live
on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. And let
me just say this off the top, if you know
someone who's gen X, be sure to put in a call.
Check on your gen X friends and relatives. Today, I'm
here to tell you we're probably not okay. I remember
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waking up today and I thought, it's going to be
a normal day. It's just a Monday. You open up
the news and see what's going on, See what's happening.
You know, you think you're going to talk about the
economy or maybe something's going on in Washington, normal stuff,
and then you see, you know, as you live long enough,
these days happen where some unsettling, very surprising, devastating news
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may come across your phone or your desk, your computer.
And it was around ten o'clock that I got the
news that actor, singer, musician, poet, activist. I'm not going
to limit him as just being an actor, that Malcolm
Jamal Warner had passed unfortunately, and I would say violently,
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when anyone should drown, it's a violent act. It's not
someone who passed in their sleep. It's tragic. It's unspeakable
in many ways now, Malcolm Jamal Warner. Of course we
knew him as THEO of The Cosby Show. We probably
knew him as the co star of Malcolm and Eddie
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alongside Eddie Griffin. Maybe you knew him as I did,
as someone who was on the spoken words circuit. Maybe
you knew him as someone who was a musician in
his own right. He was a Grammy Award winner in
twenty fifteen. We'll talk about all that later on the show.
Have a few calls out to people who did know
him much better than me. We had crossed pass any
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number of times. Because music, TV, radio, they kind of
all blend together. And when I was working in the
music industry, it was very very close to TV, and
you would see these individuals at all of our events,
and we would go to their events, and we weren't
on a first name basis, but we hung a few times.
I had a few friends who reminded me of some
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of the times in which we had hung out together,
because after so many years, you forget about all the
things you've done in this business. But Malcolm Jamal Warner's
passing was a shock to I think most people, and
if you've had any dealing with him, or if you've
been around him. He was one of the few people,
and I mean this a few people at the entertainment
where I couldn't find anyone who had anything bad to
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say about him, just didn't just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Not that he was infallible, not that he was any
less human than any of us, but he managed to.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Make ways in the way that most people do.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
There wasn't like in this business, if you come across
someone who's famous, usually as soon as the cameras go
off or the person walks away, you usually have someone said, well,
let me tell you about what I know about this person.
Let me tell you about when I dealt with this person.
Let me tell you about what I know. Not one
of those stories about him, not one, not one, But
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when we're talking about more of his legacy, and it's
something else that this kind of hit me hard. When
I say hard, it's the reality of life. He passed
at fifty four. He was maybe five months younger than me.
That makes it a little bit more real. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
When I was growing up and now I was watching
the cosp Me Show.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like most people my age, I saw myself in the
character THEO, I saw myself having some of those similar
conversations with my parents. I didn't see myself, and this
would be part of my final thought. I didn't see
myself as Michael Evans or j Evans and the Cabrity
Green projects of Chicago. I didn't see myself as Arnold
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or Willis Jackson in different strokes, and their lifestyles depicted
on screen were nothing like mine, not at all. I
couldn't I couldn't, you know, empathize with them. I could
not even see myself living their lives in any way.
It was complete fiction, whereas Steele was a little bit
more realistic. You know, he would do things to get
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in trouble, you have to answer to your parents, you
get on restrictions. There was just more of something, a
commonality in that. But we'll be talking about that more
as the night goes on the passing of Malcolm Jamal
Warner and former.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
La County Sheriff Alex Vanaeva.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
He's officially back in the race to possibly become the
next LA County Sheriff. And we know that Alex Vaneeva
can be very controversial or people may look upon him
in a controversial way. We don't know if he is
received in the same way today as he was when
he was first elected. There was a lot which was
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negatively written and said about him. During his time as
Eli County Sheriff. He had a very acrimonious relationship with
not only the La County Board of Supervisors, but a
lot of public officials. And in the since the time
that he's left office, he's changed parties. Yes, I know
Elie County Sheriff is a nonpartisan position, but still people
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knew that when he ran last time, he was a Democrat.
Now he's registered as a Republican. We'll see if any
of that matters in the perception of him as he
runs for Eli County Sheriff again. He was guested on
this show before. I'm quite sure we'll have him again
if he wants to come on and discuss his view
and vision for La County. We want to talk about
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the top ten states in public education in all the
United States, and I'm here to tell you California is
nowhere near the top ten, not even close. This country
really cares about public education, if you've been paying attention
what has been going on recently.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
We don't care about public education.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So I'm not gonna get too mad about California not
being in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because we don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
If you can say that California has horrible public education,
well yeah, the country doesn't really look highly upon public
education or spend the money. Oh that's right. We just
shuddered the Department of Education because we care so much. Yeah. So, yeah,
California not in the top ten, but we tell you
who is. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
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And the fundamental question is going to be is whether
former La Sheriff Alexananna Weeva has he burned too many bridges,
not only with the La County Board of Supervisors but
with voters for him to return to the job.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's not impossible.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I would say it might be a bit improbable given
the trajectory of his time as sheriff. That is to say,
he came in, he did some things which were very
popular for certain segments of La County and Orange County,
on to get to that just a moment, but as
far as what type of relationships he was cultivating within
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Los Angeles County, it was a time of acrimony.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It was a time of lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It was a time of fighting between he and the
La County Board of Supervisors. And you wonder, how do
you go back to that because from what I understand,
that relationship was never really mended. And although some of
the members of the can on a Board of Supervisors
has changed, not all of them have changed. But has
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the perception of Alex VI in Theweva changed now? I remember,
and we reported on this at KFI when Alex Vinueva
went down to Venice Beach boardwalk and I would say
stepped on the toes of lap D as far as
jurisdiction with his stance on homelessness and trying to clean
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up the Venice boardwalk. That was received well by some
and that was not received well by others. And I
mentioned his popularity at Orange County, and I tried to
tell people this because during the race for the most
recent election for Ellie County Sheriff, we had all of
the candidates with exception of Alex Viannueva during that time,
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we had every single one. We actually we had on
Robert Luna twice, who, as you know, eventually became the
next sheriff. And to a person, they were telling me,
at least from their standpoint, how alex Via Nueva was
well received among the rank and file at that time,
but was not well received as far as the leadership
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of Elie County Sheriff and also civic leaders and there
was that disconnect.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Now, he was very popular in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
His policies and his stances, his public pronouncements very popular.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
He had a show here on KFI for some time.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He eventually came out with me after a certain amount
of time, but his popularity was not in La County
proper and part and parcel why he did not win
in his re election bid and Robert Luna is now
Ellie County Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Doesn't mean that Robert Luna has done everything right as sheriff.
It doesn't mean that everything has been going swimmingly for him,
and it doesn't mean that he still has the full
support of the rank and file the La County Sheriff.
That deputies that I talked to, they're not all in
on Robert Luna, and it'll be interesting to see who
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might be the next sheriff. It doesn't mean that it
would be Alex Vineweva, because let's not forget it was
the tumultuous time while he was sheriff. And although and
I like to stress this point, although he was very
popular here on KFI, and although he was very popular
with Orange County, I would be remiss if I didn't
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remind people Orange County doesn't vote in La County elections,
and that's part of the reason why he did not win.
It's not a matter of whether he's popular on KFI.
It's not a matter of whether he has a show
on KFI. It's not a matter of whether the overwhelming
majority of Orange County voters happened to like him. None
of the Orange County voters are going to be voting
in La County election. So that is something that Alex
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Vineweva is going to have to tend to. He's going
to have to address. It's not enough to be popular
among non voters of people who cannot help you at
the ballot box. He's going to have to do some
bridge building. He's going to have to do some fence
mending now saying you can't, I'm saying he's going to
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have to do it because that's the only way he
will be able to get back in the good graces
of La County voters. Not entirely impossible, but if you
leave and there's a bad taste in the mouth of voters,
then you're going to have to do something to change that.
And let's not forget. And I want to highlight this point.
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When he ran before, he ran as a Democrat, and yes,
and yes, it is a non partisan position. If you
don't know La City Council nonpartisan, if you don't know
La County Board of Supervisors, non partisan, which means when
you're going into the voting booth and you're choosing a person,
you're not going to see the D or R by
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their name. Now, you may know their politics, you may
know their registration party registration, but as far as how
the position functions, it's not a quote unquote overtly political position.
You're not trying to be elected as Elie Kunty sheriff,
as a Democrat or as a Republican. But people know
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to whom your loyalties may lie. In other words, they
know that at least when he ran before he was
a Democrat, and some people derisively said he was a
Democrat name only. He may have been registered as a Democrat,
but he didn't do Democrat like things. He wasn't speaking
like a Democrat. He didn't speak to the issues that
most Democrats wanted him to speak to. That may have
been true or untrue, but we do know being registered
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as a Democrat does matter in this town and county.
If you don't believe me, asked Rick Carusoe. Rick Caruso,
when he ran for mayor, what did he do?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He changed? Well, actually been back up before he even
ran for mayor.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He was originally a Republican and the party registration to
registered independent, no party preference, and then as he decided
to run for mayor, he changed his party registration from
independent to Democrat. Now, if you asked me, his politics
probably have not changed in the past five.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Or six years, just his party registration.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But Rick Caruso understood, at least in that moment, he
had a better chance to become a mayor of Los
Angeles as a registered Democrat than he would have as
a registered independent or a registered Republican. His politics probably
never changed in that time, just his party affiliation publicly,
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and that litmus test is going to be applied to
alex Vianneweva as well. Just because he's changed his party
registration from Democrat to a Republican. It remains to be
seen as far as how people will perceive him, because
he was perceived irrespective of his original party registration as
a Democrat, he was perceived as like a Republican. He
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was perceived that way. Now, I don't know how he votes.
I don't know how Alex via the Waiva personally votes.
I'm just talking about his public party registration, his public pronouncements.
And part of the reason why he was so well
received in my humble estimation in Orange County and Republican
leaning areas is.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Because everything he did seem like a.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Republican and so for many people it seemed like a
natural progression that, yes, he would change his party affiliation
to Republican.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
But but but.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Now that he's officially back in the race, and he
has a campaign finance filing titled via the Wave of
First Sheriff twenty twenty six and was recently registered with
the California Secretary of State's office, indicating his intent to
raise funds for the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six
election cycle. That means he is in the race. And
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now that he is in the race, people will give
him another look. See, people will know that he is
no longer a Democrat and he is now throwing his
fortunes in at least publicly, with the Republican Party. That
is going to impact the race, if only by perception alone.
I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying it's a fact.
And that's the question that he will be asked. It's like,
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why did you change your party affiliation? If you're running
for a nonpartisan office, why did you change your party affiliation?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What does that mean if you happen to become sheriff.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Also, also, he will be asked about that with respect
to the ice raids. Now we know that Robert Luna
has made a statement that he's going to be turning
over inmates to ice.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He's going to be asked about that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Sheriff Luna, former Sheriff Fianuela is going to be asked
about that his stance on ice. He's going to have
to have that answer ready because that's what Elie County
voters are going to be concerned about and it's not
for me to tell you who you should vote for.
And I'm not telling you who I'm going to vote
for because I don't even know who's in the race
yet outside of alex Vina Weeva. But I am saying
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that alex Vianneueva, and I would say this to him
personally if when he comes back on this show, and
we will extend the invitation to him to come back
on this show. He burned a lot of bridges from
then to now and now, not that he's going hat
in hand, but he is going back asking for a
lot of the same voters and a lot of the
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elected officials support in this endeavor. If you'd never thought
about going back to being sheriff again, it probably wouldn't
have made any difference. But now he's back, and people
are not going to be surprised by the alex Via
Naweva this time around. And I think some people were surprised.
They thought they were going to get one alex Vianneva
and they got another one after he was elected. So
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we'll see how it turns out this time. But the
politics do matter, even though it may be a nonpartisan office.
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I'm the son of two former teachers. I am about
as pro education as anyone you will meet. I will
always advocate for higher education. It's been dumbed down the
debate of college versus trade school, or whether education is
a scam. I will not enter into that debate with you.
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I refuse to have that dumbass debate. It is okay
if you also pursue a trade It is okay to
say that some people are not necessarily suited to go
to college, but to finish the value of a college
education is something that I will not be party to ever.
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And I look at the decline of not only our
national view on education with the defunding of the Department
of Education, I look at what we're doing and not
doing on a state level, and not surprisingly, California is
still lagging lotto in all. We just can't seem to
get it right for any number of reasons, regardless of
whoever may be in charge, whoever happens to be in office.
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It's beyond politics. I just think it's about priorities or
lack thereof. But take it for what it's worth. According
to wallet hub, and you know, wallet hub is not
an expert on education, but we'll go ahead and read
their survey. Anyhow, American families cannot afford to send their
children to private schools, and public school is usually the
only option for most people around the country. And what
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wallet hub did was to analyze on a state level
the best school systems in terms of quality and safety
across thirty two different metrics, and each metric was greater
on one hundred point scale, with the score of one
hundred representing the highest quality of public K through twelve education.
YadA YadA, YadA, blah blah blah. California is not in
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the top ten. But we'll tell you right now who
is coming in at number ten? Can I sing? Should
I sing? Should I sing?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah? I'm gonna sing. Start spread in the news. I'm
leaving today. I want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
New York, New York coming in number ten, Number nine Maryland.
I can see that number nine as quality rank number
sixteen this is Maryland and number four safety rank coming
in at number eight, which means I need some input
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from Mark Runner.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
He might know something about this. Indiana, I'm taking umber eight.
That's supposed to be the eighth the best.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yes, I don't think so, but then again it's another
one from that hub, right, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well, big grain is salt, big rain.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Number seven of the best public educations by state in
the United States, Rhode Island. Never been to Rhode Island,
I can't tell you, have no frame of reference. We
should go on an HP Lovecraft trip of Rhode Island.
Only if Cthulhu shows up.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
He's always watching us might come in from the ocean.
Number six.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Couldn't tell you about the public schools of Wisconsin, Well,
they gathered there for free heat. What about cheese, heat
and cheese and heated cheese.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Number five New Hampshire. Really, I don't know about this.
I haven't been.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I have, and I mean it's anecdotal, but it is
the first thing that hit me during my time in
New Hampshire was, man, these people seem super well educated.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Quality of education ranks fourth, Safety rank fifteenth. I don't
know why it's so dangerous about New Hampshire. Relatively speaking,
it's the Primaries, got it, got it coming in number
four Virginia six, Quality rank five safety rank public school education,
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possibly possibly number three New Joysey three Quality ranked twenty
one safety. Is this wallet Hubbard bribe hub By the
big about a boom?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Wow, that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Number two Okay, let me just tell you, and we
talked about this before. Number two and number one, I
can't spell. In other words, I'm gonna mess it up
no matter how many times I try to spell it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Number two is Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I know they have a lot of good private schools,
but I don't know about public schools. They have a
good boarding schools, great private school system. Don't know about
public schools. You can't spell Connecticut. I always mess it up.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Seriously, you think this kind of rules you out of
mocking other people's education at this point?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, no, no, I could do it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's just that I'll mess it up. There are words
that I mess up routinely. Okay, you don't have any
problems with any words. Oh, I'm sure I must, because
when we asked you about Massachusetts before, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I'm not going to admit any of it to you
right now to help you insult me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Back coming in at number one the best public school
education in the country Massachusetts. I always forget how many
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s's and how many tea's. I'm sorry, you know, I
just do I do, and it's three s's and two t's.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Well, you can never have too many of those. Honestly,
what too many s's are too many te's? Pile them up,
isn't hey?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Stephen?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Remind me?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Didn't Mark messed this up the last time we had
them spelled masters chooses? Oh, please move on the first
time you did? Yeah, remember that. Now you're fishing. How
many degrees do you have? Mark? It doesn't make any difference.
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subscribe and share. Last segment, we're talking about the top
public school educational systems in America by state, and I
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said that California was not in the top ten. Well,
it actually meant to tell you last segment, but I'll
tell you now actually came in thirtieth, which is about right, thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
We do not care about education now.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We spend money on education, but that's different from actually
caring about education. Both my parents were public school teachers
for the better part of forty years each in various
school districts, from Compton School District to LAUSD to Torrance.
They've seen some stuff over the years, and they've seen
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also the evolution of education over the years. And I
just grew up in a household that valued education, something
that today I don't think the society does. For all
the talk of American excess optionalism, I've heard it, You've
heard it. We talked about how great America is in
America is great, but that's usually inextricably linked to the
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overall education of the population. As education goes down, usually
societies suffer. They're all sorts of historical examples, or you
can just look at present day examples. And this is
why I encourage people to travel. You get to see
other societies. You get to see other countries and their
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focus or lack thereof, or availability of good public education,
and you get to see how well or how poorly
that society is run. If you've ever been to let's say,
I was in South Korea last year. I hope to
be in Japan and South Korea this year, you will
see societies that not only value education, they value it
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on a national level where it's not insanely expensive to
get a higher education. And also it's a it's a
huge deal as far as secondary education. It's something that's
focused on, it's something that's emphasized, it's something most importantly
that's valued. It's not like people go around and say, oh,
college is a scam. You don't hear that over there,
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and I know why because they get it and we don't.
And also, and also let me just get on my soapbox,
real quick. You will see a correlation. It's not a
causal relationship, but you will see a correlation between the
societies with the most education and the most healthcare. I
don't know why that is. I can't tell you specifically.
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Are you sure, no, Mark.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I can't quite find why there is a.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Link between the educations which excuse me, the countries with
the most healthcare available to people and also being the
most educated society.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
They really are hard dots to connect, aren't they. Yeah,
I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just luck.
Maybe there is no connection.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Maybe the countries which spend the most on education and healthcare.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nah, it couldn't be that. It couldn't be that. It
couldn't be that.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Na. You know, some people say that the less educated
you are, the easier you are to control and be
lied to. But I'm sure there's nothing to that. But
there is something to this we.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Talk about when I say talk about our national conversations
about the importance of bringing manufacturing back to the United States,
because the United States doesn't produce anything anymore. We're not
the leaders in semiconductors or chips or whatever. And they
don't see the connection between that and our lagging in STEM.
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They don't see that in our lagging in general education.
There is a direct correlation between the improvement of education
and being in a leader, a leader in manufacturing and technology.
There's a direct straight line because every country I can
tell you about which values education, they're a leader in
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what Mark said with me, technology and a leader in education.
China leader in technology, leader in education. South three Japan
leader technology, leader in education. It's real simple, it's really
really simple. But instead we have education. College is a scam.
Who needs college? You know?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
The people who say that tend to be not college graduates,
So they get a grain of salt, right along with
the wallethub people.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's called sour grapes.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
If I don't have it, then it must not be
valuable or there's something wrong with it. We politicized it
to the point where people are shamed for where they
went to school.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Shamed.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh you're a liberal elite. Oh you went to Harvard.
Can't believe you went to Yale. Why didn't you go
to a real school like West Virginia Tech. Now next
you're gonna tell me you're not a big Lynda McMahon
Fan Lenna McMahon, for those who don't know, is the
former wife of mister McMahon of WWF WWE fame, and
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she has been the let's say, what is it, the
Department of Small Business and something something something that's.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
She's the current Education Secretary, and her background is not education,
not in education, it's in pro wrestling.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
She's never been a teacher, she's never been a school administrator.
She's never had any type of connection to education. But
it doesn't matter because we don't have a Department of
Education anymore. So it's all good. It's all good. I
tell you, I will go to the wall and to
the matt whatever is the matt, Go to the mat
whatever for education, specifically for education, mister wrestler, go to
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the math because everything stems from it. Everything we talk
about where this country is lacking, it will trace back
to education. If you talk about healthcare, it will trace
back to education. If you talk about crime and poverty,
guess what that traces back to education. A more educated society,
there's less crime, a more educated society, there's more technology, technology,
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and also jobs.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
There is a direct connection.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
But here we're stuck on stupid litt to relate KFI
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Speaker 3 (32:31):
I and kost H D two, Los Angeles, Orange County.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
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