March 27, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on Marvel Studios massive “Avengers: Doomsday” announcement AND the failure of “cancel culture” to prevent the debut trailer for Alec Baldwin’s ‘Rust’ from dropping…PLUS – A special conversation with Filmmaker Jon Erwin & Director Jon Gunn, who join the program to introduce their epic new, action-packed Prime Video series ‘House of David,’ which “tells the story of David and his journey to discover and fulfill his destiny as he prepares to take on the giant, Goliath” – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Later with Moe Kelly. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio appen. You may not be a nerd like me,
you may not be a huge movie fan like me,
but if you follow the news in a general sense,
today it was a big news day in entertainment. Marvel Studios,
in a really cool way had a drip, drip drip
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release of all the A list actors, and I do
mean A list actors who are attached to the Avengers
Doomsday movie, which is going to come out May first
of twenty twenty six. And you don't have to know
all the specifics or all the background on the movie,
but they had an announcement correct me if I'm wrong,
(00:51):
tare like every ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, every ten to fifteen minutes over the course of
about five hours.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
In no joke, every.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ten minutes, they'd have a sounder which would get you excited,
and they would add a new chair to an ever
expanding row of A list actors chairs.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The cast announced for this movie, which also is going
to have Robert Downey Junior returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
not as Tony Stark, but as Doctor Doom, which was
announced at Comic Con last July. First was announced like,
I don't know if this is correct order, but I'll
just list the names. Chris Hemsworth, Yes, you know, okay,
(01:37):
Astor Tom Hidleston is Loki, Anthony Mackie, Captain America, Sebastian
Stan the Winter Soldier, Paul Rudd of course, ant Man
Tisia Wright Shurey from Black Panther.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Wyatt Russell, the son of Kurt Russell.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He will be featured in the upcoming Thunderbolts movie as
US agent Simoulu Sarashang. She Florence Pugh Elena Blova. She
was introduced in the Black Widow movie, and she'll also
be in Thunderbolts. Danny Ramirez as the Falcon. He was
prominently featured in Captain America, Braveney World, and Winston Duke
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obviously Imbaku from Black Panther.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh, but it's more than that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're actually blending the MCU, which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
meaning Marvel Productions, that particular producing team and production house.
They're combining it with what was originally the Fox Marvel movies.
I'm talking about X Men with Halle Berry and Ian
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McKellen and James Marsden, those original Fox Marvel movies dating
back to the original in two thousand. So they're combining
those universes, those groups of actors. And in that group
they have Patrick Stewart who's gonna be playing reprising his
role as Professor, Ian McKellen Magneto, James Marsden Cyclops, Rebecca
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Romaine Mystique, and they'll also be joined by Alan Cumming
as Nightcrawler.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Kelsey Grammer is back as Beast.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Now, we don't know whether these are large roles or
cameos or brief appearances, but this is what I surmise
since they're actually announcing them, their scenes have already been cut.
For the most part, they had to have already done it,
and they've already the movie's like pretty much done, and
they'll maybe have some screenings between now and then, but
the movie's got to be pretty much done.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's well into production, has been since Robert Downey Junior
made that crowd shattering announcement that he is returning as
Doctor Doom, arguably the most powerful villain that Marvel comics
has ever released. Right now, Doctor Doom has control over
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almost all of Marvel Comics in the current iteration in
which he has become the Sorcerer Supreme and so forth.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And so on. Their eyes are glazing over there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay, but still it's not just the X Men. They
are also bringing in the Fantastic Four, which will be
introduced this summer as well, because Pedro, Pascal and the
rest will be coming on and and and you have Tenchuerta,
who played Nay More in Black Panther Waconda Forever.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
It was just a who's who of Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
My godness, it's about every star star from every Marvel
movie for the most part, for the past seventeen years,
no excuse me, twenty five years if you include the
Fox Universe, yes, which means this is going to be
It will be a disappointment if it didn't make two billion.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Dollars off the top. This cast alone commands two billion.
You know of Vanessa Kirby, Evon Barak, Barrett, Evan Moss,
and Joseph Quinn. That rounds out the Fantastic Four end.
As you mentioned, all of the Thunderbolts will be coming
in alongside Whyte Russell, and you have Lewis Pulman who
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plays Bob Aka the Century. David Harber's Red Guardian is
going to be in it, Hannah, Joe, Hannah John to
come on as ghosts. This film has almost every and
look look at this. Okay, look at this. Okay, I'm
so right. Okay, this is just the people that were announced.
This doesn't count all of the glorious Easter eggs and
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people that we don't even know it could be coming
into this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We have to assume that there will be some other
unlisted cameos in addition to the confirmed actress and actresses
in this. Again, you don't need to know all the
history of the characters. Just look at it from a
movie cinematic event perspective. They're obviously throwing everything and the
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kitchen sink at this.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, because the biggest Marvel movie of all time was
the previous Avengers movies, and it was a two part
it was Avengers Infinity Ward and Avengers Endgame. This is
going to be done in the same way where you'll
have Doomsday and then a year later they'll have Secret Wars,
which is basically a sequel to Avengers Doomsday, Yes, and that's.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That film by itself lends to even more people being cast.
We already know that both Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Holland
could not be in Doomsday because their films Doctor Strange
three and Spider Man five, both of those will be
coming out around the time of this, which leads to
them ultimately taking part in this film. My onliest worry,
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and this is a serious concern, is the Russo brothers
involvement and prior to you know, all things having to
do with Avengers Endgame and Infinity War. That wouldn't have
been an issue because they brought those two films to
light and they were phenomenal. But they are also responsible
for Electric State, and that is quite possible one of
(07:11):
the worst films ever.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But Kevin Figy has already made it clear that he's
going to be closely attached and watching over the production
of these movies. I trust Kevin Figy. This is not
a pet project the Russo Brothers where they have full
creative control and can do whatever they want. This is
I trust Kevin Figy. He knows how to get it done.
(07:35):
I'm fine with this. I'm fine because all the principal actors.
We both saw Electric State Man, Yeah, we both saw,
and Kevin Figy wasn't attached to that.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Marvel was not attached that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The same quality controls were not associated with that.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm not worried at all, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Because yeah, because that film really hurt my soul.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It did.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But I think that's less about the directors and more
about not having creative can They had way too much
creative control. They would not be able to make some
of those same decisions in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, no, no, never. So it's almost like their autoumatons.
They're like puppets. And he's just got he said, look,
you all know how to work the cameras, and ye'll
cut in a way that I don't really feel the
need to. So I'll sit back here in the third
director's chair, right and just oversee what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Okay, all right, okay, yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Who.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I feel comfortable with it. I feel real comfortable with it.
What about you, Mark? Are you good with it?
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I'm concerned for how they sell Robert Downey Junior as
Doctor Doom after we already know him as Tony Stark
and Iron Man. I mean, I'm sure they have a
plan in place. I don't know if I would have
made that choice. I agree. Put it this way, I
wouldn't have announced it. If you were going to do it,
I would have held it back. Obviously, we're dealing with
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multiverse stuff, so it will work yourself out as far
as the backstory. But that type of announcement would have
been better served for me if they could have held
it back. It just been on screen and all of
a sudden you realize Doctor Doom is Robert Downey Jr.
They did such a magnificent job with him in the
previous movies, and the way he went out in Avengers
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Endgame was so powerful.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
This cheapens it to me.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, except Mark, Now, you act as if we're
gonna see Robert Downe Jr's face, which we're not.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well, then why why I hire him if you're not.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Because he is an actor and he will be in costume.
That that is why we never saw James Earl Jones
walking around in the Vader suit. We just knew it
was his voice. Well, if you're gonna play the Vader,
card I withdraw. I'm just saying, like that's what we're
talking about. It could basically just be him doing the
voice work, because he's what a great actor.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
This is not This is not.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
A film where we see Robert down Junior prancing around
in a green suit and all of a sudden he's like, Ah,
where's my mask?
Speaker 7 (09:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Come on, Mark, Oh you no better?
Speaker 6 (09:52):
All right, well then why not just bring back Captain
America while you're at it?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I don't know. Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, that
is an o.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's an open question as far as Chris Evans and
the Captain America character, because even in Captain America Brave
New World, there was some allusions to Chris Evans Captain
America still being around somewhere.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yep, that's an open question.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I think one reason people get so impatient and sick
of superhero movies is stuff like this where nothing really counts.
You have something that makes a big impact and then
you just take it back later on.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I don't like that. I'm not just talking about all
he did was put the shield down. He got old. Okay,
you we can table this for now.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I just I have some misgivings all including by the way,
bringing back that lay mass nay More character. That was
one instance of Marvel really fumbling the ball. Okay, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Okay, you know what they you.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Know how he got in the wait, No, you gotta
hear this.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
You gotta hear this.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
In the movies, he's called nay more because no one
loves him. No amore, no more. Yeah, nice work.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
That's a that's a gross interpretation of what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But go with that.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Rewatch the film so you can say, oh, I had
that back on you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Rewatch the film. Yeah. Can I go to break down?
Can I go to commercial? I wish you would.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We have Alec Baldwin update. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And again, Alec Baldwin has not been canceled. Has his
career been diminished?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I don't know. I don't know. He was already at
the latter portion of his career.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It wasn't like he was twenty five thirty years old
at the height of his stardom. But Alec Baldwin, I
could make an argument, is better off today than he
was five years ago. Given the adment of his family
reality television show. Given somehow, some way, this Rust movie
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is coming out. I never really thought this movie would
ever be released after the death of cinematographer Helena Hutchins.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I just didn't think it was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I do know, yes, I do know that there is
some agreement in place as far as part of the
settlement where the Hutchins family will receive a portion of
the profit, So there is a monetary incentive to put
out this movie. But I don't remember them spending a
lot of money on it. I know it's relatively low budget.
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Alec Baldwin is one of the principal producers, and they
dropped the trailer today and I was looking at it.
It doesn't look bad as far as trailers go. It
didn't look low budget. It looked like a bonafide, genuine Western,
which fits in the genre. That's what it looked like.
I can't speak for the movie. Am I actually going
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to watch the movie? Probably not. I don't really have
any desire to see it, but someone will, does it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
For me, it kind of came off disrespectful that they
even just continued with this project considering what happened, because
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I get that part of it.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Unfortunately, did promote the movie, but it's like, why even
continue with that project with what it has attached to it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I have to look it up. I'm pretty sure I
agree with you. Intellectually. I agree with you, but I
think it has something to do with the settlement, the
civil settlement with the Hutchins family where they asked for
them to finish the film and also they would get
a portion of the proceeds as part of the settlement.
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I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I'm close to that.
Let me, we can look it up, we can find it.
But I think that's the only real reason that there
was a push for this film to be finished, not
for Alec Baldwin's sake, but for the family's sake of
Lens the Hutchins. But here is the trailer, and we'll
look it up while we're listening.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
The only order that exists in this world.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The order we impose.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
A man loves the side of that. He's got nothing,
God bless a wicked.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And they continue to pay my bills.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Some things in this life you can't conduct. I reckon,
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haven't anybody know? Neither one of us.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Wanna be Clint Eastwood kind of typical one liners Western.
It doesn't look like there's anything that we'll see in
this movie which is different from any other Western which
has come before it. But Twala, you are looking it up.
And the settlement was connected to the completion of the movie.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yes, the Hutchins family, with the decision with the husband
of Clean Hutchins, was mandated that this film be completed.
It's part of the settlement agreement.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, so there is a financial incentive for the Hutchins
family to complete the movie.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
They'll get a percentage.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Just something that was in the settlement that probably in fact,
I know that was not made public as far as
the specifics of the settlement, but but.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
There you have.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's why, Stephan the movie was finished. I'm surprised they did.
It's not uncommon for someone to die in the during
the production of a movie and the movie still be released.
I think of like the Crow or did Heath Ledger
make it to the release of that He didn't, he
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passed away.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, so I mean it's not super unusual.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I guess it was just more because of the fact
that well, all the evidence that you know, maybe Alex
caused it allegedly, and that's what I think is kind
of like a little bit weird.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
No, it feels dirty. Yeah, it feels dirty. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't quite put my finger on can't express why
it doesn't feel right it. If I didn't hear explicitly
that the family asked for to be finished and they
would not also get something out of it, I would say, hell, no,
you can't release the movie. It's almost like you're proverbially
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trampling on the grave of Helena Hutchins. And it doesn't
feel right. But if I keep coming back to, well,
if the family's okay with it, well.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And it's by family again. This is as part of
the settlement, hutchins husband, Matthew Hutchins, was made an executive
producer of the film so that he and the family
could benefit financially. Set of a financial sentiment like say,
suing right to get money. Now they're getting all the
money from the film's release. Which is that gonna be
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any money? We'll find out very soon when we come back.
We'll be joined on the show by John Irwin and
John Gunn. I'm going to talk about House of David,
which is right now streaming on Amazon Prime. Talking about
the story of David and Goliath. K I AM six forty.
We live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (18:07):
Will Kelly, Monkey.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
And six.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
David's heart is like a deep fire.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Said strong, unbroken. It is the very reason he was chosen.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I want a place with the King's warriors.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Maybe you had a point, and you are a shepherd.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
You are not a man class species.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I was meant for more than this. King's the Philistine.
Speaker 11 (18:40):
We shall ride against so, but our gods and nightmares
will go before us.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
You have the heart of a lion.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
What do lions do?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
They all?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
John Good?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now streaming on Amazon Prime Video is House of David,
the epic action pack retelling of the famous Biblical story
of David and Goliath. Across eight episode's House of David
tells the story of young David and his journey to
eventually fulfill his destiny, taking on the giant Goliath, of course,
in fact, episode seven drops tomorrow. Filmmaker John Irwin is
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the series creator and John Gunn is the director of
House and David, and they both joined me on the show.
John and John Good Evening, how are you doing gentlemen.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
You John's are better than one in the case of
this show, so thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Man absolutely spelled the same way, John Irwin, what motivates
you to tell a well known biblical story that is
a centerpiece of the Old Testament, And how do you
go about dramatizing something that so many people are familiar with?
Speaker 9 (19:58):
Well, you know, I think if something's meaningful and entertaining
to you, you just have to trust that you know
that it will be to other people as well. And
for me, I began to really be fascinated by David.
You know, at age sixteen, I went I traveled to
Israel with my dad and with my first camera and
went to some of these ancient sites and I was
just awestruck by the legacy and legend of this person.
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I went to the tomb of David, and I've wanted
to tell a story ever since. And it's just an
epic story in every way. But it's also in many
ways the origin, or at least one of them, of
the hero's journey heap stories. So all these stories that
we love, you know, Harry Potter, Lord of the Reading
Star Wars, in many ways they have their roots in
the story of David or stories like David and about
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this original you know, ascent of this boy chosen to
be king, and so it's everything you could ever wish
for as a filmmaker. And yet it's the story is
deeply meaningful to billions of people around the world, and
I'm one of them. So it's it really is a
dream come true.
Speaker 11 (21:01):
And even though it is a very well known story,
and even though just about everyone's heard the words David
and Goliath, there's so much to the story that most
people don't know. And so it's been a real opportunity
for us to take what is three chapters of the
Bible in First Samuel and turn it into eight hours
of content for season one of House of David. And
there's eight hours more to come in season two and
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hopefully beyond. So there's a lot of opportunity to learn
much much more about King David than you might know,
even if you're familiar with David and Goliath. But David
and Goliath is pretty epic, and the finale starts airing
tomorrow on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
John Gunnett, since I hear your voices, you jumped in,
how and when did House of David come to you
and what was your thought process in transferring this written
story to the screen.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Well, it actually, you know, John Irwin and I have
been collaborating on many projects over the last five or
six years. We've written and produced a lot of films together,
some of which he directed, some of which I directed.
And this was a project that Irwin has been dreaming
on for many years. And so when we got the
opportunity through our partnership with Amazon to make this show,
he sort of called me and said, like, look, how
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do you feel about partnering up on this?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And to me, it was such a great opportunity.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
To bring some specificity and voice of our own into
a story that's as epic as and sort of known
throughout the world.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
As the story of David.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
So, you know, as a filmmaker, I was thrilled to
get the chance to do David and Goliath story. I mean,
it's you know, it's such a great challenge and it's
a story that when I imagine in my mind, how
are we going to do David and Goliath, that challenge
was really exciting to me.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
John ire When for those who don't know, we can't
assume everybody knows the baseline of David and Goliath. So
just tell us who is David, who will eventually become
King David, and who is the prophet Samuel as just
people at this time in Biblical history.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Well, I mean, David is this obs your outcast kid
hidden away from his family and his town. Samuel is
this great prophet and seer that ruled Israel for forty
years before Israel had a king and sort of was
the messenger of the Voice of God and anointed Israel's
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first king in Saul. And their relationship is fractured and
frayed as Saul has gotten sort of obsessed with himself
and his power. And so Samuel is beckoned by God
to go anoint a new king and a nation that
already has one. That's not a good thing, you know.
And he finds this boy, David and anoints him as
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king and a nation that already has a king. And
so these houses of the House of David in the
House of Saul are instantly pitted against one another. And
David has this secret that if he's found out, he
and his whole family will be killed simultaneously. He ends
up slaying this giant and comforting the king with his
music and falling in love with the king's daughter, all
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while carrying the secret that he is indeed anointed to
replace this this person that becomes like a father to him.
And so it's a very complex, wonderfully complex story. And
uh and and as you as you really dramatize the
story that's in the Bible, it's amazing how great it is.
There's a reason that this book is the best selling
book of all time and and has inspired people for generations.
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And uh and David is really that first hero's journey,
And it's amazing to tell a story.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
John Gutt, I know that a lot of this depicts
Mesopotamia of Middle East now in a time in which
probably looked very different from what we thought of it.
How did you go about trying to create this visual
scenery which depicted that time in the Bible?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, you know that was.
Speaker 11 (24:52):
One of the great opportunities of the show, is just
to create a very specific world, aversion of ancient Israel
that people haven't seen. We're shooting it in Greece, which
just has epic landscapes that again not a lot of
people have seen, haven't been photographed. The parts of Greece
that we're shooting very often. So you know, we did
a whole lot of research. We've got a really talented
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team production designers and wardrobe departments and hair and makeup,
and so when you put all that together and then
really root it all in characters that we've come to
love that we want to share in all their complexity,
it creates a world that's really unique and really specific,
and I think it's going to be something unlike what
people have seen before, and a version of David that
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I think John and I both felt We've never seen
a David and Goliath that felt really cinematic and compelling,
and so it's a great honor to be able to
tell an version of that story that I think people
are really going to love.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
John Irwin. Episode seven drops tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's part one of the two part season finale of
House of David. Yet we may know exactly what's about
to happen, but we may not know how it's going
to happen. How would you set the stage for episode
seven and then episode eight following after that.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Well, I mean everyone that knows how it ends wants
to know how it ends. You know, it's uh, it's
finally here David and Goliath in this two part finale,
and uh, and it really is a dream come true.
It's my favorite, It's my favorite thing that I've ever
been involved with as a filmmaker is the conclusion of
House of David.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
As a fan of the of the Bible itself and
of David, I had never really seen a version of
David and Goliath. Uh, you know the way I had dreamed,
And and I'm and I'm just so grateful to be
able to, you know, put it on the screen. And
it's really really beautiful, and I'm so proud of it.
So so Tomorrow Night is part one, followed next week
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by part two, and it's this two hour conclusion to
season one, and and it's it's a grand finale in
every sense of the word.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
John Gunn, last word to you.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What should we expect beyond Tomorrow Night next week and
also into season two.
Speaker 11 (27:04):
Well, the great thing about season one of House of
David is it's an epic story that ends with a famous.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Epic confrontation with Gliath.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
But really all of that season is just the setup
to a much much larger story as David rises into
his destiny and it starts to realize that there is
a price to pay for destiny. And so season two
is bigger and more epic than season one and we
are filming it right now and can't wait for people
to see it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Streaming on Amazon Prime Video is House of David Episode seven.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
As You Heard drops tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
John Irwin and John Gunn, congratulations and thank you for
coming on tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
We'll be watching. Thank you so much for having away
for you see it.
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Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's really hard to believe that Snoop Dogg has been
on the entertainments for almost thirty four years. It's hard
to believe he's had that much of a career, that
much of an impact, that much of a presence in
entertainment for so long.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Especially when I was working in the music business, a
lot of people were trying to become a rapper or
trying to become a singer as a step stone, stepstone
to do something else. You can think of all the
rappers who become actors, from Ice Cube to Iced Ta,
Snoop dog ll Cool J, and they'll tell you rapping
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was a thing, but it wasn't the thing for them.
It was a stepping stone. It was a way to
get from here to there, to move on to the
next portion in their career. And no one arguably has
done it as well as Snoop Dogg. Now there might
have been other people who've had more success as an
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actor than Snoop Dogg. He's done act and he's been
in movies, he's done TV. But I don't know if
there has been a rapper who has had such a
diverse and wide varied career and such tremendous success in
a number of different avenues. You can talk about Snoop
Dogg as the rapper. You can talk about Snoop Dogg
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as the actor like you see him in Training Day
in other movies. You can talk about Snoop Dogg as
the television host working alongside Martha Stewart. You can talk
about his work in the community with Long Beach, in
his football leagues. He's done so many things. Oh, his
commentary in the Olympics during the Olympics. He's done so
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many things, and I've said on a number of occasions
I'm in awe of what he's managed to do and
also how much he's been able to grow and reinvent himself.
The latest example of that he's been asked to speak
at US Marshall's twenty twenty five commencement. And if you
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don't notice this Marshall School of Business quote, this is
what Snoop had to say.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I am deeply honored to join USC Marshall's commencement in
celebrating the remarkable achievements of these graduates. Commencement is not
just a milestone, it's a launching point. It's about stepping
into your purpose, applying what you've learned, and making an
impact that matters. I look forward to welcoming them into
the next chapter of their journey as leaders, innovators and
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change makers. But to my point about how much Stoop
is done. He's released twenty one studio albums, won sixteen
Grammy Awards, appeared in numerous films and television shows, and
last year started his own beverage company co launched with
Doctor Dre called Jen and Juice, appropriately titled US Snoop
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Dogg was recognized for his business endeavors, receiving the USC
Lloyd Grief Center Entrepreneur of the Year away, given to
celebrate entrepreneurial excellence. And from what I read and what
I understand, USC is digging this.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I posed the question. It was half hearted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think I understood why, and I think I understood
how he would be received.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But I was posing the questions.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Like, how would you respond if you spend all this
money and then Snoop Dogg is your commencement speaker. I've
never heard him speak long form in terms of like
addressing a crowd or giving a speech at a formal event.
I know that he can be funny off the cuff.
I know he's lived an amazing life and had an
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amazing career, and I'm quite sure he has all sorts
of jewels to drop for these young folks. And I
was kidding with Tuala, but I really wasn't kidding. I
sure hope he doesn't crip walk across the stage. I
hope he doesn't. And let me just do this real quick,
since I have a USC graduate who's in the studio
right now, Tiffany Hobbs you're a USC alum, you probably
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feel some sort of way or a kind of way
about this.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Where do you fall in this?
Speaker 10 (32:11):
You know, with holding my own personal feelings about Snoop,
given his recent commentary, some of the things that he's
been embroiled in in the years, it's real because there
are quite a few things that are problematic about Snoop
Dogg aside from his political stance. His history is complicated,
but I can understand using him as a commencement speaker.
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This crop of students is really invested, as are their peers,
this generation in social media, in stardom, in popularity, and
who better than to represent all three than someone who
is a pop culture icon, likes Snoop, who's from the community,
who has been present at the USC games in every way.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
He's an athlete. While you were there, while I.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Was there as well. He would be there on campus
practicing with the football team, as would Will Ferrell. We
had quite a few celebrities who would come back alums
as well, and Snoop was one of them. He's been
a fan of us for a long time, and so
it's it's funny that it's taken this long to get
him into a speaker position. But I think Snoop has
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shown his ability to be on that main stage, on
that larger stage with the Olympics, as you spoke of,
and so what better way than to test his oratorical
skills now than to put him as the commencement speaker.
I think he'll do great. I think he'll have a
good time with and I think the students will enjoy
it as well.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well said, I'll let you have a fight on that. Yeah,
you need to get a better football team.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Fight on I know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And prayers up to Juju, Prayers for Juju.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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It's Later with Moe Kelly. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio appen. You may not be a nerd like me,
you may not be a huge movie fan like me,
but if you follow the news in a general sense,
today it was a big news day in entertainment. Marvel Studios,
in a really cool way had a drip, drip drip
(00:31):
release of all the A list actors, and I do
mean A list actors who are attached to the Avengers
Doomsday movie, which is going to come out May first
of twenty twenty six. And you don't have to know
all the specifics or all the background on the movie,
but they had an announcement correct me if I'm wrong,
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tare like every ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, every ten to fifteen minutes over the course of
about five hours.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
In no joke, every.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Ten minutes, they'd have a sounder which would get you excited,
and they would add a new chair to an ever
expanding row of A list actors chairs.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The cast announced for this movie, which also is going
to have Robert Downey Junior returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
not as Tony Stark, but as Doctor Doom, which was
announced at Comic Con last July. First was announced like,
I don't know if this is correct order, but I'll
just list the names. Chris Hemsworth, Yes, you know, okay,
(01:37):
Astor Tom Hidleston is Loki, Anthony Mackie, Captain America, Sebastian
Stan the Winter Soldier, Paul Rudd of course, ant Man
Tisia Wright Shurey from Black Panther.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Wyatt Russell, the son of Kurt Russell.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He will be featured in the upcoming Thunderbolts movie as
US agent Simoulu Sarashang. She Florence Pugh Elena Blova. She
was introduced in the Black Widow movie, and she'll also
be in Thunderbolts. Danny Ramirez as the Falcon. He was
prominently featured in Captain America, Braveney World, and Winston Duke
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obviously Imbaku from Black Panther.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh, but it's more than that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're actually blending the MCU, which is the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
meaning Marvel Productions, that particular producing team and production house.
They're combining it with what was originally the Fox Marvel movies.
I'm talking about X Men with Halle Berry and Ian
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McKellen and James Marsden, those original Fox Marvel movies dating
back to the original in two thousand. So they're combining
those universes, those groups of actors. And in that group
they have Patrick Stewart who's gonna be playing reprising his
role as Professor, Ian McKellen Magneto, James Marsden Cyclops, Rebecca
(03:04):
Romaine Mystique, and they'll also be joined by Alan Cumming
as Nightcrawler.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Kelsey Grammer is back as Beast.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Now, we don't know whether these are large roles or
cameos or brief appearances, but this is what I surmise
since they're actually announcing them, their scenes have already been cut.
For the most part, they had to have already done it,
and they've already the movie's like pretty much done, and
they'll maybe have some screenings between now and then, but
the movie's got to be pretty much done.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's well into production, has been since Robert Downey Junior
made that crowd shattering announcement that he is returning as
Doctor Doom, arguably the most powerful villain that Marvel comics
has ever released. Right now, Doctor Doom has control over
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almost all of Marvel Comics in the current iteration in
which he has become the Sorcerer Supreme and so forth.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And so on. Their eyes are glazing over there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay, but still it's not just the X Men. They
are also bringing in the Fantastic Four, which will be
introduced this summer as well, because Pedro, Pascal and the
rest will be coming on and and and you have Tenchuerta,
who played Nay More in Black Panther Waconda Forever.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
It was just a who's who of Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
My godness, it's about every star star from every Marvel
movie for the most part, for the past seventeen years,
no excuse me, twenty five years if you include the
Fox Universe, yes, which means this is going to be
It will be a disappointment if it didn't make two billion.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Dollars off the top. This cast alone commands two billion.
You know of Vanessa Kirby, Evon Barak, Barrett, Evan Moss,
and Joseph Quinn. That rounds out the Fantastic Four end.
As you mentioned, all of the Thunderbolts will be coming
in alongside Whyte Russell, and you have Lewis Pulman who
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plays Bob Aka the Century. David Harber's Red Guardian is
going to be in it, Hannah, Joe, Hannah John to
come on as ghosts. This film has almost every and
look look at this. Okay, look at this. Okay, I'm
so right. Okay, this is just the people that were announced.
This doesn't count all of the glorious Easter eggs and
(05:35):
people that we don't even know it could be coming
into this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We have to assume that there will be some other
unlisted cameos in addition to the confirmed actress and actresses
in this. Again, you don't need to know all the
history of the characters. Just look at it from a
movie cinematic event perspective. They're obviously throwing everything and the
(06:01):
kitchen sink at this.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, because the biggest Marvel movie of all time was
the previous Avengers movies, and it was a two part
it was Avengers Infinity Ward and Avengers Endgame. This is
going to be done in the same way where you'll
have Doomsday and then a year later they'll have Secret Wars,
which is basically a sequel to Avengers Doomsday, Yes, and that's.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That film by itself lends to even more people being cast.
We already know that both Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Holland
could not be in Doomsday because their films Doctor Strange
three and Spider Man five, both of those will be
coming out around the time of this, which leads to
them ultimately taking part in this film. My onliest worry,
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and this is a serious concern, is the Russo brothers
involvement and prior to you know, all things having to
do with Avengers Endgame and Infinity War. That wouldn't have
been an issue because they brought those two films to
light and they were phenomenal. But they are also responsible
for Electric State, and that is quite possible one of
(07:11):
the worst films ever.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But Kevin Figy has already made it clear that he's
going to be closely attached and watching over the production
of these movies. I trust Kevin Figy. This is not
a pet project the Russo Brothers where they have full
creative control and can do whatever they want. This is
I trust Kevin Figy. He knows how to get it done.
(07:35):
I'm fine with this. I'm fine because all the principal actors.
We both saw Electric State Man, Yeah, we both saw,
and Kevin Figy wasn't attached to that.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Marvel was not attached that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The same quality controls were not associated with that.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm not worried at all, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Because yeah, because that film really hurt my soul.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It did.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But I think that's less about the directors and more
about not having creative can They had way too much
creative control. They would not be able to make some
of those same decisions in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, no, no, never. So it's almost like their autoumatons.
They're like puppets. And he's just got he said, look,
you all know how to work the cameras, and ye'll
cut in a way that I don't really feel the
need to. So I'll sit back here in the third
director's chair, right and just oversee what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Okay, all right, okay, yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Who.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I feel comfortable with it. I feel real comfortable with it.
What about you, Mark? Are you good with it?
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I'm concerned for how they sell Robert Downey Junior as
Doctor Doom after we already know him as Tony Stark
and Iron Man. I mean, I'm sure they have a
plan in place. I don't know if I would have
made that choice. I agree. Put it this way, I
wouldn't have announced it. If you were going to do it,
I would have held it back. Obviously, we're dealing with
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multiverse stuff, so it will work yourself out as far
as the backstory. But that type of announcement would have
been better served for me if they could have held
it back. It just been on screen and all of
a sudden you realize Doctor Doom is Robert Downey Jr.
They did such a magnificent job with him in the
previous movies, and the way he went out in Avengers
(09:10):
Endgame was so powerful.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
This cheapens it to me.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, except Mark, Now, you act as if we're
gonna see Robert Downe Jr's face, which we're not.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well, then why why I hire him if you're not.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Because he is an actor and he will be in costume.
That that is why we never saw James Earl Jones
walking around in the Vader suit. We just knew it
was his voice. Well, if you're gonna play the Vader,
card I withdraw. I'm just saying, like that's what we're
talking about. It could basically just be him doing the
voice work, because he's what a great actor.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
This is not This is not.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
A film where we see Robert down Junior prancing around
in a green suit and all of a sudden he's like, Ah,
where's my mask?
Speaker 7 (09:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Come on, Mark, Oh you no better?
Speaker 6 (09:52):
All right, well then why not just bring back Captain
America while you're at it?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I don't know. Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, that
is an o.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's an open question as far as Chris Evans and
the Captain America character, because even in Captain America Brave
New World, there was some allusions to Chris Evans Captain
America still being around somewhere.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yep, that's an open question.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I think one reason people get so impatient and sick
of superhero movies is stuff like this where nothing really counts.
You have something that makes a big impact and then
you just take it back later on.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I don't like that. I'm not just talking about all
he did was put the shield down. He got old. Okay,
you we can table this for now.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I just I have some misgivings all including by the way,
bringing back that lay mass nay More character. That was
one instance of Marvel really fumbling the ball. Okay, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Okay, you know what they you.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Know how he got in the wait, No, you gotta
hear this.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
You gotta hear this.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
In the movies, he's called nay more because no one
loves him. No amore, no more. Yeah, nice work.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
That's a that's a gross interpretation of what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But go with that.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Rewatch the film so you can say, oh, I had
that back on you.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Rewatch the film. Yeah. Can I go to break down?
Can I go to commercial? I wish you would.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We have Alec Baldwin update. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (11:32):
And again, Alec Baldwin has not been canceled. Has his
career been diminished?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I don't know. I don't know. He was already at
the latter portion of his career.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It wasn't like he was twenty five thirty years old
at the height of his stardom. But Alec Baldwin, I
could make an argument, is better off today than he
was five years ago. Given the adment of his family
reality television show. Given somehow, some way, this Rust movie
(12:04):
is coming out. I never really thought this movie would
ever be released after the death of cinematographer Helena Hutchins.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I just didn't think it was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I do know, yes, I do know that there is
some agreement in place as far as part of the
settlement where the Hutchins family will receive a portion of
the profit, So there is a monetary incentive to put
out this movie. But I don't remember them spending a
lot of money on it. I know it's relatively low budget.
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Alec Baldwin is one of the principal producers, and they
dropped the trailer today and I was looking at it.
It doesn't look bad as far as trailers go. It
didn't look low budget. It looked like a bonafide, genuine Western,
which fits in the genre. That's what it looked like.
I can't speak for the movie. Am I actually going
(12:56):
to watch the movie? Probably not. I don't really have
any desire to see it, but someone will, does it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
For me, it kind of came off disrespectful that they
even just continued with this project considering what happened, because
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I get that part of it.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Unfortunately, did promote the movie, but it's like, why even
continue with that project with what it has attached to it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I have to look it up. I'm pretty sure I
agree with you. Intellectually. I agree with you, but I
think it has something to do with the settlement, the
civil settlement with the Hutchins family where they asked for
them to finish the film and also they would get
a portion of the proceeds as part of the settlement.
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I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I'm close to that.
Let me, we can look it up, we can find it.
But I think that's the only real reason that there
was a push for this film to be finished, not
for Alec Baldwin's sake, but for the family's sake of
Lens the Hutchins. But here is the trailer, and we'll
look it up while we're listening.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
The only order that exists in this world.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The order we impose.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
A man loves the side of that. He's got nothing,
God bless a wicked.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And they continue to pay my bills.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Some things in this life you can't conduct. I reckon,
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haven't anybody know? Neither one of us.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Wanna be Clint Eastwood kind of typical one liners Western.
It doesn't look like there's anything that we'll see in
this movie which is different from any other Western which
has come before it. But Twala, you are looking it up.
And the settlement was connected to the completion of the movie.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yes, the Hutchins family, with the decision with the husband
of Clean Hutchins, was mandated that this film be completed.
It's part of the settlement agreement.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, so there is a financial incentive for the Hutchins
family to complete the movie.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
They'll get a percentage.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Just something that was in the settlement that probably in fact,
I know that was not made public as far as
the specifics of the settlement, but but.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
There you have.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's why, Stephan the movie was finished. I'm surprised they did.
It's not uncommon for someone to die in the during
the production of a movie and the movie still be released.
I think of like the Crow or did Heath Ledger
make it to the release of that He didn't, he
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passed away.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, so I mean it's not super unusual.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I guess it was just more because of the fact
that well, all the evidence that you know, maybe Alex
caused it allegedly, and that's what I think is kind
of like a little bit weird.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
No, it feels dirty. Yeah, it feels dirty. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't quite put my finger on can't express why
it doesn't feel right it. If I didn't hear explicitly
that the family asked for to be finished and they
would not also get something out of it, I would say, hell, no,
you can't release the movie. It's almost like you're proverbially
(17:09):
trampling on the grave of Helena Hutchins. And it doesn't
feel right. But if I keep coming back to, well,
if the family's okay with it, well.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And it's by family again. This is as part of
the settlement, hutchins husband, Matthew Hutchins, was made an executive
producer of the film so that he and the family
could benefit financially. Set of a financial sentiment like say,
suing right to get money. Now they're getting all the
money from the film's release. Which is that gonna be
(17:41):
any money? We'll find out very soon when we come back.
We'll be joined on the show by John Irwin and
John Gunn. I'm going to talk about House of David,
which is right now streaming on Amazon Prime. Talking about
the story of David and Goliath. K I AM six forty.
We live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
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Will Kelly, Monkey.
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And six.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
David's heart is like a deep fire.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Said strong, unbroken. It is the very reason he was chosen.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I want a place with the King's warriors.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Maybe you had a point, and you are a shepherd.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
You are not a man class species.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I was meant for more than this. King's the Philistine.
Speaker 11 (18:40):
We shall ride against so, but our gods and nightmares
will go before us.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
You have the heart of a lion.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
What do lions do?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
They all?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
John Good?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now streaming on Amazon Prime Video is House of David,
the epic action pack retelling of the famous Biblical story
of David and Goliath. Across eight episode's House of David
tells the story of young David and his journey to
eventually fulfill his destiny, taking on the giant Goliath, of course,
in fact, episode seven drops tomorrow. Filmmaker John Irwin is
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the series creator and John Gunn is the director of
House and David, and they both joined me on the show.
John and John Good Evening, how are you doing gentlemen.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
You John's are better than one in the case of
this show, so thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Man absolutely spelled the same way, John Irwin, what motivates
you to tell a well known biblical story that is
a centerpiece of the Old Testament, And how do you
go about dramatizing something that so many people are familiar with?
Speaker 9 (19:58):
Well, you know, I think if something's meaningful and entertaining
to you, you just have to trust that you know
that it will be to other people as well. And
for me, I began to really be fascinated by David.
You know, at age sixteen, I went I traveled to
Israel with my dad and with my first camera and
went to some of these ancient sites and I was
just awestruck by the legacy and legend of this person.
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I went to the tomb of David, and I've wanted
to tell a story ever since. And it's just an
epic story in every way. But it's also in many
ways the origin, or at least one of them, of
the hero's journey heap stories. So all these stories that
we love, you know, Harry Potter, Lord of the Reading
Star Wars, in many ways they have their roots in
the story of David or stories like David and about
(20:44):
this original you know, ascent of this boy chosen to
be king, and so it's everything you could ever wish
for as a filmmaker. And yet it's the story is
deeply meaningful to billions of people around the world, and
I'm one of them. So it's it really is a
dream come true.
Speaker 11 (21:01):
And even though it is a very well known story,
and even though just about everyone's heard the words David
and Goliath, there's so much to the story that most
people don't know. And so it's been a real opportunity
for us to take what is three chapters of the
Bible in First Samuel and turn it into eight hours
of content for season one of House of David. And
there's eight hours more to come in season two and
(21:23):
hopefully beyond. So there's a lot of opportunity to learn
much much more about King David than you might know,
even if you're familiar with David and Goliath. But David
and Goliath is pretty epic, and the finale starts airing
tomorrow on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
John Gunnett, since I hear your voices, you jumped in,
how and when did House of David come to you
and what was your thought process in transferring this written
story to the screen.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Well, it actually, you know, John Irwin and I have
been collaborating on many projects over the last five or
six years. We've written and produced a lot of films together,
some of which he directed, some of which I directed.
And this was a project that Irwin has been dreaming
on for many years. And so when we got the
opportunity through our partnership with Amazon to make this show,
he sort of called me and said, like, look, how
(22:10):
do you feel about partnering up on this?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And to me, it was such a great opportunity.
Speaker 11 (22:14):
To bring some specificity and voice of our own into
a story that's as epic as and sort of known
throughout the world.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
As the story of David.
Speaker 11 (22:25):
So, you know, as a filmmaker, I was thrilled to
get the chance to do David and Goliath story. I mean,
it's you know, it's such a great challenge and it's
a story that when I imagine in my mind, how
are we going to do David and Goliath, that challenge
was really exciting to me.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
John ire When for those who don't know, we can't
assume everybody knows the baseline of David and Goliath. So
just tell us who is David, who will eventually become
King David, and who is the prophet Samuel as just
people at this time in Biblical history.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Well, I mean, David is this obs your outcast kid
hidden away from his family and his town. Samuel is
this great prophet and seer that ruled Israel for forty
years before Israel had a king and sort of was
the messenger of the Voice of God and anointed Israel's
(23:18):
first king in Saul. And their relationship is fractured and
frayed as Saul has gotten sort of obsessed with himself
and his power. And so Samuel is beckoned by God
to go anoint a new king and a nation that
already has one. That's not a good thing, you know.
And he finds this boy, David and anoints him as
(23:41):
king and a nation that already has a king. And
so these houses of the House of David in the
House of Saul are instantly pitted against one another. And
David has this secret that if he's found out, he
and his whole family will be killed simultaneously. He ends
up slaying this giant and comforting the king with his
music and falling in love with the king's daughter, all
(24:03):
while carrying the secret that he is indeed anointed to
replace this this person that becomes like a father to him.
And so it's a very complex, wonderfully complex story. And
uh and and as you as you really dramatize the
story that's in the Bible, it's amazing how great it is.
There's a reason that this book is the best selling
book of all time and and has inspired people for generations.
(24:28):
And uh and David is really that first hero's journey,
And it's amazing to tell a story.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
John Gutt, I know that a lot of this depicts
Mesopotamia of Middle East now in a time in which
probably looked very different from what we thought of it.
How did you go about trying to create this visual
scenery which depicted that time in the Bible?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, you know that was.
Speaker 11 (24:52):
One of the great opportunities of the show, is just
to create a very specific world, aversion of ancient Israel
that people haven't seen. We're shooting it in Greece, which
just has epic landscapes that again not a lot of
people have seen, haven't been photographed. The parts of Greece
that we're shooting very often. So you know, we did
a whole lot of research. We've got a really talented
(25:15):
team production designers and wardrobe departments and hair and makeup,
and so when you put all that together and then
really root it all in characters that we've come to
love that we want to share in all their complexity,
it creates a world that's really unique and really specific,
and I think it's going to be something unlike what
people have seen before, and a version of David that
(25:37):
I think John and I both felt We've never seen
a David and Goliath that felt really cinematic and compelling,
and so it's a great honor to be able to
tell an version of that story that I think people
are really going to love.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
John Irwin. Episode seven drops tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's part one of the two part season finale of
House of David. Yet we may know exactly what's about
to happen, but we may not know how it's going
to happen. How would you set the stage for episode
seven and then episode eight following after that.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Well, I mean everyone that knows how it ends wants
to know how it ends. You know, it's uh, it's
finally here David and Goliath in this two part finale,
and uh, and it really is a dream come true.
It's my favorite, It's my favorite thing that I've ever
been involved with as a filmmaker is the conclusion of
House of David.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
As a fan of the of the Bible itself and
of David, I had never really seen a version of
David and Goliath. Uh, you know the way I had dreamed,
And and I'm and I'm just so grateful to be
able to, you know, put it on the screen. And
it's really really beautiful, and I'm so proud of it.
So so Tomorrow Night is part one, followed next week
(26:49):
by part two, and it's this two hour conclusion to
season one, and and it's it's a grand finale in
every sense of the word.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
John Gunn, last word to you.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
What should we expect beyond Tomorrow Night next week and
also into season two.
Speaker 11 (27:04):
Well, the great thing about season one of House of
David is it's an epic story that ends with a famous.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Epic confrontation with Gliath.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
But really all of that season is just the setup
to a much much larger story as David rises into
his destiny and it starts to realize that there is
a price to pay for destiny. And so season two
is bigger and more epic than season one and we
are filming it right now and can't wait for people
to see it.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Streaming on Amazon Prime Video is House of David Episode seven.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
As You Heard drops tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
John Irwin and John Gunn, congratulations and thank you for
coming on tonight.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
We'll be watching. Thank you so much for having away
for you see it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's really hard to believe that Snoop Dogg has been
on the entertainments for almost thirty four years. It's hard
to believe he's had that much of a career, that
much of an impact, that much of a presence in
entertainment for so long.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Especially when I was working in the music business, a
lot of people were trying to become a rapper or
trying to become a singer as a step stone, stepstone
to do something else. You can think of all the
rappers who become actors, from Ice Cube to Iced Ta,
Snoop dog ll Cool J, and they'll tell you rapping
(28:37):
was a thing, but it wasn't the thing for them.
It was a stepping stone. It was a way to
get from here to there, to move on to the
next portion in their career. And no one arguably has
done it as well as Snoop Dogg. Now there might
have been other people who've had more success as an
(28:58):
actor than Snoop Dogg. He's done act and he's been
in movies, he's done TV. But I don't know if
there has been a rapper who has had such a
diverse and wide varied career and such tremendous success in
a number of different avenues. You can talk about Snoop
Dogg as the rapper. You can talk about Snoop Dogg
(29:20):
as the actor like you see him in Training Day
in other movies. You can talk about Snoop Dogg as
the television host working alongside Martha Stewart. You can talk
about his work in the community with Long Beach, in
his football leagues. He's done so many things. Oh, his
commentary in the Olympics during the Olympics. He's done so
(29:43):
many things, and I've said on a number of occasions
I'm in awe of what he's managed to do and
also how much he's been able to grow and reinvent himself.
The latest example of that he's been asked to speak
at US Marshall's twenty twenty five commencement. And if you
(30:04):
don't notice this Marshall School of Business quote, this is
what Snoop had to say.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I am deeply honored to join USC Marshall's commencement in
celebrating the remarkable achievements of these graduates. Commencement is not
just a milestone, it's a launching point. It's about stepping
into your purpose, applying what you've learned, and making an
impact that matters. I look forward to welcoming them into
the next chapter of their journey as leaders, innovators and
(30:31):
change makers. But to my point about how much Stoop
is done. He's released twenty one studio albums, won sixteen
Grammy Awards, appeared in numerous films and television shows, and
last year started his own beverage company co launched with
Doctor Dre called Jen and Juice, appropriately titled US Snoop
(30:52):
Dogg was recognized for his business endeavors, receiving the USC
Lloyd Grief Center Entrepreneur of the Year away, given to
celebrate entrepreneurial excellence. And from what I read and what
I understand, USC is digging this.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I posed the question. It was half hearted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think I understood why, and I think I understood
how he would be received.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But I was posing the questions.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Like, how would you respond if you spend all this
money and then Snoop Dogg is your commencement speaker. I've
never heard him speak long form in terms of like
addressing a crowd or giving a speech at a formal event.
I know that he can be funny off the cuff.
I know he's lived an amazing life and had an
(31:38):
amazing career, and I'm quite sure he has all sorts
of jewels to drop for these young folks. And I
was kidding with Tuala, but I really wasn't kidding. I
sure hope he doesn't crip walk across the stage. I
hope he doesn't. And let me just do this real quick,
since I have a USC graduate who's in the studio
right now, Tiffany Hobbs you're a USC alum, you probably
(32:04):
feel some sort of way or a kind of way
about this.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Where do you fall in this?
Speaker 10 (32:11):
You know, with holding my own personal feelings about Snoop,
given his recent commentary, some of the things that he's
been embroiled in in the years, it's real because there
are quite a few things that are problematic about Snoop
Dogg aside from his political stance. His history is complicated,
but I can understand using him as a commencement speaker.
(32:36):
This crop of students is really invested, as are their peers,
this generation in social media, in stardom, in popularity, and
who better than to represent all three than someone who
is a pop culture icon, likes Snoop, who's from the community,
who has been present at the USC games in every way.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
He's an athlete. While you were there, while I.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Was there as well. He would be there on campus
practicing with the football team, as would Will Ferrell. We
had quite a few celebrities who would come back alums
as well, and Snoop was one of them. He's been
a fan of us for a long time, and so
it's it's funny that it's taken this long to get
him into a speaker position. But I think Snoop has
(33:25):
shown his ability to be on that main stage, on
that larger stage with the Olympics, as you spoke of,
and so what better way than to test his oratorical
skills now than to put him as the commencement speaker.
I think he'll do great. I think he'll have a
good time with and I think the students will enjoy
it as well.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well said, I'll let you have a fight on that. Yeah,
you need to get a better football team.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Fight on I know.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And prayers up to Juju, Prayers for Juju.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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