December 28, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A specially crafted ‘Best-Of’ edition of the program revisiting the “Top 100 TV Shows of All Time” (according to Variety) - on KFI AM 640 – Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm sorry. I must have done it unconscious, the way
you go through life. Nay, be nice. It's Christmas, That's
what what was for.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I guess I sighed because somehow it just don't seem
like Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I know what you mean, mat What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You know what she means?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
My mother? I was just gonna say that. Mom means
that we're all cowtowing to Madison Avenue in the almighty
cash register. Yeah, she means that that Christmas has been
exploited by big business. It's a it's a victim of
crass commercialism.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh my, did I meet all?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Can't I am six forty will I've everywhere on the
iHeartRadio apps Later with mo Kelly And that was all
in the family. And what better place to start when
we look at varieties top one hundred TV shows of
all time, and already I know you're gonna get mad.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm gonna get mad.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
That's why they do these lists, to have us talk
about them, debate them, credit them, so you can find
them and yell at them. But in this list you
will find TV shows you will find TV specials, you'll
find late night television, you will find all sorts of
iterations of TV. For the top one hundred shows of
(01:32):
all time, I can tell you right now I don't
agree with it, but we're just going to run through
the list for the rest of the hour. We will
have time to least tell you all one hundred names
on the list, even though we may not discuss them.
So let's get into it. Coming in at number one
hundred is Community, the NBC show. I don't know if
(01:55):
Communities in the top hundred, we're already off to a
bad start. Number ninety nine Hannibal. How could be Hannibal
be in the top one hundred when it was only all.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
For like two years? It is a magnificent show. Have
you seen it? Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
I have.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But I'm saying longevity does matter. Yeah, I was gonna
say that's the point there.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I thought it ran three seasons. Okay, okay, three seasons.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
That doesn't really help the point I think greatest there
has to be some longevity, which says to me that
people actually watched it enough to you know, how many
can you really be great if you only have three seasons?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Yeah, let me put this into perspective for you. The Prisoner,
the greatest show of all time, which is not on
this list, by the way, from nineteen sixty seven. It
had seventeen episodes, but it is absolutely revered as one
of the most brilliant things that's ever been on television.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, we're already off to a bad stuff for God's sake,
I mean, yeah, yeah, right either do I, as Tim
Conway Junior say, I bet you don't. Ninety eight Homeland
on Showtime, solid, solid show solid. Yeah, yeah, ninety seven
better than Homeland and anything I've said so far.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Top Chef, what we're off? Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yes, Six The Good Fight, which was the sequel to
the Good Wife. It was only on Paramount Plus. I
saw every episode of The Good Fight. It was The
Good Wife was much better, That's what I was hearing.
Much better. It's not even clothes. Ninety five Black Mirror, Okay, worthy,
(03:32):
that should be higher.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Ninety four I May Destroy You from HBO. I never
saw it me neither. Ninety three Will and Grace. I
was saying this, it's in the top one hundred. We
can quibble about where I think it's in there somewhere, Sure,
two Saint Elsewhere. I actually would put else Saint Elsewhere
(03:56):
higher because Twayla and I were kind of talking about
this off air. A show I think to be in
the top one hundred list should have a degree of
cultural relevance. And also it's kind of like own your
own space in your era, and Saint Elsewhere was a
huge show in its era. I know it's arbitrary, but
(04:17):
I do know that Saint Elsewhere at ninety two is
better than Daria of MTV at ninety one.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That does not belong on the list, not at all.
It's probably not in the top five hundred.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Check this out at number ninety, number freaking ninety of
the greatest shows of all time, And this is saying
that there are eighty nine shows better than number ninety.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The Cosby Show did in age so well? Did it?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, No, Bill Cosby didn't age so well.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The show itself is still a landmark TV show and
one of the greatest TV shows in history bar none
by a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So can you ever look at it the same way again? Now?
I think that's unfair.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Like, for example, I don't necessarily think Roseanne is less
of a show because Roseanne Barr has gone off the
deep end in recent years.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Yeah, but at the same time, it's not gonna be
the first thing I want to watch anymore after seeing her.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, but I think that's really unfair because the show
itself has nothing to do with what Bill Cosby went
to jail for literally twenty five years later, thirty years later.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I understand your point, but I'm not a big separate
the artist from the art type of person.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh I'm huge, because all the artists are trash when
you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
If you start digging into.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Their personal lives and you found out what they did,
you know, you.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Wouldn't listen or watch anything ever, right, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
If we're only going to talk about the personal failings
and look at their art through that, then I'll just say,
just to get it started, then John Wayne never did
anything in terms of a good movie.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
That is sacrilege right there?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
All right, there you go, That's all I'm saying, you know,
And I separate his personal views from the art that
he created on screen.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
None of us in this studio are fit to hold
that man's to pay.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Oh my goodness, there you go.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Keep going, please, Okay. Number eighty nine, mister Rogers neighborhood.
It's the neighborly day in the Beauty Wood.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's in there.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I can argue against it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
The cultural relevance cannot be disputed. Impact generations of people
grew up on mister Rogers.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
And I think history has really vindicated him and made
the people who mocked him back in the day just
feel like crap.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And yeah, and there is something to it there to
your point, there are TV shows which age well and
don't age well, but I'm not going to pin that
on the personal life of mister Rogers.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I think the movie helped. You know, when you get.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Some historical contexts and you get to see the fullness
of the story behind the story, it makes a difference.
The SAT number eighty eight better than the Cosby show.
General Hospital a soap opera look, and soap operas have
never been known for putting out anything. Now there are
(07:19):
some impactful storylines. Luke and Laura was a sensation back
in the eighties of that perm but the show itself,
and I watched General Hospital, so I can speak from
a point of knowing firsthand. Well, then where's Peyton Place?
Come on, We'll get to it. Okay, Okay, Steph do
(07:40):
you have the clip? The Cosby clip? This is, for example,
a part of the greatness of the Cosby Show, which
had no peer at all in the mid nineteen eighties.
This is Heathcliff Huxtable trying to explain to his son
Theo what it means to live in the real world
(08:01):
and what it means to pay bills.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
You graduate from high school, let's say you just slide by.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right. Now, now you got to find a job.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Now, what kind of salary do you expect for a
regular person?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Two hundred and fifty dollars a week? Two hundred fifty
dollars a week. Yeah, sit down, I'm going to give
you three hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Yes, indeed, three hundred dollars a week, twelve hundred dollars
a month.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
All right, right, I'll take you, Yes you will, And
I will.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Take three hundred and fifty dollars for taxes.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (08:45):
Yeah, now now, because see the government comes for the
regular people first.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Now, now, how much how much does that that leave
you with?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Eight hundred fifty dollars?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
All right, Now, you've got to have an apartment.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Because you are not going to live here.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
So an apartment in Manhattan will run you at least
four hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'll live in New Jersey, all right, live in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You've got to have a car. I'll ride a motorbike.
You need a helmet figure one hundred a month for
clothes and shoe figure two hundred. I want to look good, okay?
(09:43):
So so what's that? What does that leave you with? Two? So?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
No problem?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
There is a problem. You haven't eaten yet.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I can get bar maloney in Sereal.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
So I got anything I need? Plus two hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dollars left for the month. You plan to have a
girlfriend for sure?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
If I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We're going to continue the variety list of the top
one hundred TV shows of all time.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
In just a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
AM six forty with Kelly.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Have you've been a good little girl?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm sorry, Santa.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
You must have the wrong apartment.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, it's me Tom.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Just like that, Tom is at children's hospital distributing toys
to the kids.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
He doesn't have a year, Helen, I couldn't get into
our apartment. I forgot my key?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Why didn't you slide down a chimney?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's very funny. Little boy? Who do you call him?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Boy?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Ho?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Little man?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Well?
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Speaker 4 (11:15):
And that was the Jeffersons.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
As we talk about the top one hundred TV shows
of all time according to Variety, and of course with
these lists meant to create debate, discussion and disagreement, this
list is trash. It had Cosby at number ninety. They're
not eighty nine shows, more impactful, better landmarking nature than
(11:37):
the Cosby Show, not eighty nine shows.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And as we go through the list, I will be
proven right. We're on number eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
We left off with at General Hospital, which was number
eighty eight according to Variety, Number eighty seven Happy Days.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It's in the top one hundred.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
We can quibble about where, but it's in the top
one hundred, eighty six better than the Cosby show Girls
on HBO.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's getting laughable.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Come on now, geez, that's a big negatory, right, Number
eighty five Colombo. Oh that should be higher. Yeah, right,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Number eighty four Atlanta not a fan. I don't even
know what that is.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
That's Donald Glover's show on FX Top one hundred, okay,
Number eighty three Stranger Things. Yeah, I don't know about
top hundred. I like the show and I've seen every episode.
I'm kind of sticking with your point now, like just
not better than Cosby. Right, We've had some recency bias here.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
The fact that you like something that's been fairly recent
doesn't mean that it's among the greatest of all.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Time, right right.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Number eighty two Amazon Prime Videos Fleabag. I don't think so.
Eighty one thirty something, No, how did that get there?
That's yeah. Number eighty Scandal not Top one hundred. I've
seen every episode of Scandal, have you.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I liked it? Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I have, yes, part of it because my wife then
fiance loved.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The show, So blame it on her. Okay, No, I wouldn't.
I'm just saying this is felonious. Yeah, like you said, good,
but yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
This show did not change the landscape of television the
way shows were made, if it wasn't water cooler talk
to the point where it made news and things like that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It doesn't belong on this list.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I think these writers whoever put this list together probably
came up in the age of social media and YouTube.
Honestly do honestly do seventy nine The Buppet Show, Yes
that Yeah, seventy eight Dallas, Yes, yeah, and we're just
saying yes, since top.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
One hundred, we may not agree the place.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, Number seventy seven The Daily Show with John Stewart, Yeah, okay, sure, yeah.
Number seventy six Fresh Prince of bel Air. Yeah, I'll
hear that. Here, I'll hear that ar Yeah. Oh here
there are number seventy five Taxi Yes, yep, might even
be higher, should be number seventy four Deadwood.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Especially if Deadwood's on this list. Oh, Deadwood's terrific. How
could you argue against that?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Again, only like two three seasons, but like it does
it belong on this list of top one hundred. It
was absolutely brilliant. What is not on this list? Because
Deadwood is is the prime?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Who did you bump off? Listen? If Top Chef's on there,
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
That's true?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Hey, hey, fair enough?
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Did Top Chef change the landscape of television.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
It did. I did.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, America's Top Chef.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
There is an entire network.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Built on Top Chef.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Okay, I'll hear that argument.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Genre.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, I'll hear that argument. That's a good argument. Number
seventy three is NYPD Blue. I was a fan of it.
I don't know how great the show was. I thought
Dennis Franz was great. I don't know if the show
itself was.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I once asked David Caruso about his pasty white ass
in an interview because of that show.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Okay, you gotta give context.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
People don't know that was the first pasty white ass
on broadcast televis right, and he got furious with me
at a round table interview. So let's let's keep that
in the top one hundred. Big deal back there, that
was a huge deal. Everybody was talking about you want
a water cooler show?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
That was that.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Okay, nudity on broadcast television never been done before.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That was a famous ass at the time, still is.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Actually because I don't think they've ever done it since
on broadcast television. They've done it on like, you know,
HBO whatever, but not broadcast. Seventy two the Wonder Years. Yes,
seventy one Living Single, I don't I like it. Yeah,
I like Top one hundred now I love the show,
but yeah, Number seventy The People versus O. J.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Simpson, Are you kidding me? That's a little weird.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's on here, and we interview Courtney Vance, who played
Johnny Cochrane. I loved it, but it's not Top one hundred.
I'm sorry, these people are high. Number sixty nine. We
may mentioned of her earlier, separating the artists from the
art Roseanne absolutely absolutely, yeah, absolutely, sixty eight Rays of
the Anatomy.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, yeah, I know why they put it on. I
don't like it, but whatever, right.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Number sixty seven this, I think there's an argument to
be made here RuPaul's drag Race. Yeah, okay, for the
cultural MP yes, similar to the top Chef argument.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Number sixty six Bob Newhart Show. That should be higher,
ye question, Yes, Number sixty five Freaks and.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Geeks, No should be highed. That's well, that's good, but
is the top one top one hundred?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It was not landmark even for nerd culture.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
It was only on two seasons that actually one season.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's god, I mean it was.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
It was much beloved by nerds.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But that's like, how does the top hundred show get
canceled after one season?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I mean that everybody involved in that show went on
to be a big star. Yes, but I don't know
the show itself is in the top one hundred. Sixty
four The Jeffersons, Yes, absolutely. Three Angels in America HBO,
what exactly?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Non, I know I know what that shows.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
That's the documentary like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Sixty two The Comeback HBO.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Sixty one Orange is the New Black? Come on?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Oh? Sixty in Living Color? Definitely? Yeah. The Sketch Show, Yeah, definitely, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Fifty nine South Park, Yes, absolutely, fifty eight The Good Place?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Who made this list? What are we doing with the
Good Place? Fifty seven Chappelle Show? Love it, but not
top one, right right?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I loved it as far as sketch shows, Living Colors
better than Chappelle's show.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
The Blue made this list? Have amnesia? They're insane?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, Number fifty six Law and Order Special Victims Unit.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, better than the original Law and Order. Well we haven't.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
We haven't got through the yet list yet, so so
they may be higher.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I mean Special victims.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's that's pretty. It's toughed a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Number fifty five from Netflix, its first entrant, bo Jack Horseman.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
No way, no, no, no, no no. Remember what I
said about these people being high.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
That's right, that's right. Number fifty four Gilmore Girls. No,
don't Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I've never seen. This is thirty.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Five shows better than The Cosby Show, GTFHWTBS way fifty three,
six feet under good but not top one hundred. Don't
tell me that. It's just slightly not as good as
number fifty two. The Tonight Shows starring Johnny Carson iconic, iconic.
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That might even be top ten, okay, top ten. Number
fifty one Arrested Development. That was good, better than Johnny Carson.
That no, absolutely not Number fifty My so called Life,
which was only on for a season.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
This is crazy. We got to go to a break.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
We're halfway through the top one hundred shows of all
time according to Variety, and they've been high on weed
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Because there's no in the world in it. This makes sense.
Be sure to stick around for the top fifty.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
TV shows of all time, well at least according to Variety.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
For whatever it's worth.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 9 (19:28):
Caught in the ax leaping down, trying to get what
the presents are.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Huh, nobody feels much. I guess in the presence.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I think we had a postpone Christmas to Mom can
talk again. One for that, me too. Let's gip Christmas
this year.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Okay, it's unanimous. We'll cancel Christmas, take the tree down,
get the presence back to the store. I'll throw the
turkey away. Of course, might disappoint your mother a little,
you said, one tough break already, she and your dad.
We're looking forward to us all having a wonderful first
(20:06):
Christmas together. I want to worry about how they feel.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We don't want to disappoint them. But of course not.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
Oh, that's exactly what you'd be doing.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It was your idea, Marsha, I only made because Mom
can't sing tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You can't throw the turkey away, Alice, It's got my
favorite dressing. Don't worry, honey, I won't.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I just wanted you all to realize you didn't really
mean what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You sure scared me. Okay, everybody else have been.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Now come on It's Later with Moe Kelly Kfi AM
six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we're
talking about the top one hundred TV shows of all
time according to Variety. They're crazy, they're insane, they're wrong,
but it's fun to discuss and debate these lists. And
we left off at number fifty and number fifty was
My so called Life, which was on for forty five minutes.
(20:56):
It seemed I don't know if they even finished a
complete season, which make this list bogus. But number forty
nine another show which is only on for one season,
and I liked it a lot. But if you only
lasted one season, how could you be in the greatest
of all time? Because clearly there wasn't enough support for
the show. Watchmen love the show, not top one hundred, Nope,
(21:20):
Number forty eight and this next show. I loved it personally,
and I think it changed how we looked at cable
dramas as far as how gritty.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It used a lot of profanity, it was very violent.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
People were really they looked at Michael Chicklist in a
different way because of this show. The Shield never seen
it oh, highly recommend. I'm being very stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It's on my list.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, check out the Shield. If you don't like the
first episode, then you won't like the show. If you
like the first episode, you'll like to show.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
If it's got violence and profanity, it has all of that.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's number forty eight.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Number forty seven Friday Night Lights Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Number forty six The Leftovers HBO. This is just getting
laughable now. Number forty five The Dick Van Dyke Show,
Top one hundred, absolutely right. Number forty four Star Trek
(22:19):
the next Generation. They'd better not be ahead of the
original Star Trek. I'm not so sure that the original
Star Trek is on this list. I'm being serious. I'm
being serious. Unacceptable. Number forty three The Larry Sanders Show. Okay, funny, Yeah,
I'll hear it. I'll hear it out. Number forty two
The Americans on FX.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
It's fantastic, but I don't know if it's top one
hundred again, you even making one of them like bing
it if you're in the hospital, right, if you're completely
immobilized captive audience.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Number forty one, and this one I actually agree with
Twala tell me what you think the real world?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Absolutely absolutely, This show literally gave birth to reality the
television which rules TV right now.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Can't argue with that, can't argue with that. Number forty
Buffy the Vampire Slayer get Out, I mean the cult following. Yeah,
but top one hundred, Number thirty nine, The Office, I'll
hear that, I'll hear that discussion.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'm not sold. It changed.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It was so different in its presentation and breaking the
fourth wall.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Fourth wall break just as quick.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I would put that just right under Larry Sanders because
he kind of started that. Okay, Okay, that's all right, okay.
Number thirty eight The X Files, Yes, solid, solid, Yeah.
Number thirty seven enlightened. These folks really like HBO shows.
And when I like HBO show, I couldn't say you
it's like all HBO. These people can go boil their heads.
(23:48):
It keeps going. I said, HBO shows. Number thirty six,
curb your enthusiasm. Well, that's really good. I like it,
but not not this high up. Number thirty five Late
Night with David Letter, yep, ye, yessolutely yes absolutely. Number
thirty four er yes, yeah, I like your number thirty
three Jeopardy Yes, absolutely if you're gonna throw in game shows, yeah,
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Jeopardy game shows.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
You got to have match game in there, or this
whole list is invalid, which I suspect it already is.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
No, I would say Hollywood Squares before match game. You're nuts?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
No, no, what, No Hollywood Squares before match game? And
I'm a Jean Rayburn fan, but I would still as
far as impact Hollywood Squares and you actually, you'd have
to throw a wheel of fortune.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Honestly, you'd have to throw in family feud.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
What are you true?
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Oh? I can't do this. I can't do this. You're
both out of your minds. Number three okay, thirty three
is Jeopardy. Number thirty two is Lost. That's a garbage show.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
That's trap garbage now.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Number thirty one Survivor, Yes, yeah, yeah, not because it
was great that the impact of what it's spawned I have.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, I can't argue with that. Is this a list
of top hundred shows you have on while you're folding laundry?
I wasn't a.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Survivor fan, but I can't deny how Survivor changed television
in the way that the real world did. Aren't they
like a like fiftieth season. Yeah, I can't argue it.
Number thirty Hill Street Blues, all right, name I like
Hillstreet Blues.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The number twenty nine Friends.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I never watched what episode, so I can't Yeah, yeah, okay,
I mean I know people were say, can you name
one hundred shows?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, I was telling that I was giving him my
top ten. I couldn't even think of ten.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Number twenty eight the Civil War PBS ken Burns sounds perfunctory. Yeah,
Number twenty seven twin Peaks. I didn't care for it. Oh, oh,
loved it, Okay. Number twenty six Veep another HBO show. No,
but no funny, but not that high, right, right, And
when we come back, we'll get into the top twenty
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five TV shows of all time according to Variety.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And it's going to piss you the f off.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I promise you don't go anywhere. We'll have more of
some of the best of twenty twenty four as we
listen back. It's Later with mo Kelly, Heyfi and iHeartRadio.
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Later with Mo Kelly and as we go through the
top twenty five at this point of the top one
hundred of the best TV shows in history, according to Variety,
and it's a horrible list. They sucked us in, you know,
because invariably they want you debate and discuss it and
be mad, and we're doing all those things. It's a
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horrible list, Top twenty five of the one hundred. West
Wing comes in at number twenty five, and we're just saying,
does it belong or not? I'll allow it. I don't
know if it's top twenty five. In fact, I doubt
it is, but I'll allow it on the list. Number
twenty four, Mash definitely gotta have it, Number twenty three,
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The Carol Burnett Show, Yes, number twenty two, thirty Rock.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Right, that's a reach.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
That's a reach, And it's definitely not top twenty five,
No way, Number twenty one. I saw every episode of
this show, and there's no way that it's in the
top twenty five of all time. Game of Thrones, No, no, No,
number twenty sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I think that should be top ten.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
It wouldn't have occurred to me to put it in there,
but I worship Mike Wallace.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, Number nineteen nineteen. Play excuse me, Playhouse ninety. I
never saw it is from the mid late fifties.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Great stuff like Rod Serling's patterns and stuff like that
change TV.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Very important show.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Okay, number eighteen, the Golden Girls, I don't think so.
Oh yes, I would fight for the Golden Girls.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
The thing is, you can have The Golden Girls at
eighteen and Cosby Show at ninety.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
You can't justify that it's not a hill. I want
to die on.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Okay, number seventeen, the Oprah Winfrey Show. That hill I'll
die on. Yeah, I would pick Donahue. That's before Oprah.
I'm being serious because he started. Yes, number sixteen All
in the Family, you should be ranked higher. But yes,
number fifteen Saturday Night Live the first few years for sure.
(29:00):
But yeah, they're taking seventy five to present. So they're
saying the totality of it, And honestly, I don't see
how you could have Saturday Night Live and not have
laugh In.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I love laugh In. I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I'm just saying, as far as sketch shows go, laughing
I think has more of a footprint in changing television
to me than Saturday Night Live. Agree, a number fourteen
Twilight Zone, No debate, there should be higher. Yep, number thirteen.
I've seen every episode of this show, and they're wrong.
(29:33):
This is just such an HBO bias list. Succession.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You know, this is my comment on the whole list.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
If you think Succession is a better show than the
Twilight Zone, find a different career. Nothing you have to
say is of interest to me at all. This Succession,
for as much as I liked it, it did not
change television at all. Once again, a great show, but no, no,
no way should.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Be this high.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Number twelve, Sesame Street, I don't allow it. Yeah, it
changed a television program like Fred Rogers of several generations,
but I think they should be closer in proximity on
this list. Yeah, number eleven again we're at that NBC problem.
Cheers Cheers definitely, but don't tell me Cheers is number
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eleven and Cosby's ninety once again. Yeah, number ten. And
if you're not old enough to remember this and not
old enough to understand the cultural significance and how it
changed television, the conversations which were had on news because
of the show, then you know you won't understand.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Roots comes in at number ten. Or is my grade
school teachers called it roots? You're watching that roots?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Well, that's a that's a was was your teacher from
down South?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Because they say roots down South? No. Number nine, Mary
Tyler Moore show, no argument whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Number eight Seinfeld's.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Yes and no thing. There's yes and no. I look,
I'm not mad. I've watched a lot of Seinfeld. But
the ranking because unless this is in no particular order,
and this is just one hundred shows that should be
on this list, fine, but but si fous some of
these other shows, it's not it's.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
A ranking order. Number seven The Wire. I don't know
if I would have put as high as seven.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
But it's on the list.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
But it's probably the archetypal great HBO show.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
But yeah, maybe too high for high Number.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Six, Colleen, See this is this list was made by HBO.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
They paid for this.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yes, they did. Number six Sex in the City. I
have to take a.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Blood pressure pill right now because this is pissing me
off too badly.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Entourage before Sex and the City, and I've seen all
of Sex in the City. Yeah, I would take the
news room before sex and this.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
We talk about a show that doesn't age well that
is one of them.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Number five, breaking bad, number five. I agree, No, no,
you agree that it should be at number five. Yes, somewhere, heresy, heresy,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Man, it's I'm taking your television away.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
He doesn't have a television, he has a tablet. Oh god.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Number four, and I would agree with this for a
number of reasons. The Simpsons, Yes, yes, yeah, all right,
Look it's been on for.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Thirty years, so I mean that right there, kind of
like that's the rest. You're kind of a size queen, though,
aren't you. You say a short Wow, let's just be
honest here. You say a short show with only one
season doesn't merit anything but just by virtue of the
fact that something's been around a long time.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
No, the thirty years is one aspect of it, but
also the idea of late night animation, adult cartoon.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Record breaking storytelling. I mean, this show, damn near has
predicted the future and her number of times. I mean like,
this show is something.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Else once again that should be buckled up right next
to Cosby, like true true time wise. Yeah, yeah, that's
number four. Number three, let me guess, HBO. The Sopranos,
All right, I didn't even watch that. I would say
top twenty. I don't know if I would say top three,
top ten. Yeah, it's it's in there. It's a discussion. Yeah,
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number two, mo mad Men.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
This list, I'm going to find Madmin is not.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
The second best television show of all times. These people
can rot in hell in hell, man, there's no argument
that you could make that mad Men is the second
best television show in terms of import influence.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Not unless the cousin of the director of mad Men
wrote it's.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Probably only the second best TV show on AMC. Where
is the original Star Trek? Yeah, come on, it's not
on the list. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
The Star Trek the next generation made the list, but
Star Trek the original series didn't make the list.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I don'ught to tell you how to out of order.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
This is uh huh and the number one TV show
in history, out of the top one hundred, as according
to Variety.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I actually agree with this. I love Lucy, I agree, Yeah,
I agree. I can't argue with that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
I agree with this for the simple fact that without
I Love Lucy, Your be Love, Star Trek doesn't exist,
as do several shows that were produced by desil Loustu.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Inclusion impossible absolutely, which didn't make the list.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
The impact of what.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Right, Yeah yeah, owning it yes, three camera Yeah, you can't,
you can't.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I want every critic who compiled this list audited and deported.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Wow, you want to you want to set him out
the country? I want them disappeared to a black site
and waterboarding. It's kind of harsh, but I can't disagree.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
That's the thing. Send him to the island that that's
a hill. I'm not going to die on. You know, waterboarding.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Okay, it may be illegal, but you know, whatever happened
in the black site stays in a black site, shallow
grave in the desert. I hope you're as mad as
we are. Caf I AM six forty. We're lived everywhere
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm sorry. I must have done it unconscious, the way
you go through life. Nay, be nice. It's Christmas, That's
what what was for.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I guess I sighed because somehow it just don't seem
like Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I know what you mean, mat What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You know what she means?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
My mother? I was just gonna say that. Mom means
that we're all cowtowing to Madison Avenue in the almighty
cash register. Yeah, she means that that Christmas has been
exploited by big business. It's a it's a victim of
crass commercialism.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh my, did I meet all?
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Can't I am six forty will I've everywhere on the
iHeartRadio apps Later with mo Kelly And that was all
in the family. And what better place to start when
we look at varieties top one hundred TV shows of
all time, and already I know you're gonna get mad.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I'm gonna get mad.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
That's why they do these lists, to have us talk
about them, debate them, credit them, so you can find
them and yell at them. But in this list you
will find TV shows you will find TV specials, you'll
find late night television, you will find all sorts of
iterations of TV. For the top one hundred shows of
(01:32):
all time, I can tell you right now I don't
agree with it, but we're just going to run through
the list for the rest of the hour. We will
have time to least tell you all one hundred names
on the list, even though we may not discuss them.
So let's get into it. Coming in at number one
hundred is Community, the NBC show. I don't know if
(01:55):
Communities in the top hundred, we're already off to a
bad start. Number ninety nine Hannibal. How could be Hannibal
be in the top one hundred when it was only all.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
For like two years? It is a magnificent show. Have
you seen it? Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
I have.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
But I'm saying longevity does matter. Yeah, I was gonna
say that's the point there.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I thought it ran three seasons. Okay, okay, three seasons.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
That doesn't really help the point I think greatest there
has to be some longevity, which says to me that
people actually watched it enough to you know, how many
can you really be great if you only have three seasons?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
Yeah, let me put this into perspective for you. The Prisoner,
the greatest show of all time, which is not on
this list, by the way, from nineteen sixty seven. It
had seventeen episodes, but it is absolutely revered as one
of the most brilliant things that's ever been on television.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, we're already off to a bad stuff for God's sake,
I mean, yeah, yeah, right either do I, as Tim
Conway Junior say, I bet you don't. Ninety eight Homeland
on Showtime, solid, solid show solid. Yeah, yeah, ninety seven
better than Homeland and anything I've said so far.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Top Chef, what we're off? Okay?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yes, Six The Good Fight, which was the sequel to
the Good Wife. It was only on Paramount Plus. I
saw every episode of The Good Fight. It was The
Good Wife was much better, That's what I was hearing.
Much better. It's not even clothes. Ninety five Black Mirror, Okay, worthy,
(03:32):
that should be higher.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Ninety four I May Destroy You from HBO. I never
saw it me neither. Ninety three Will and Grace. I
was saying this, it's in the top one hundred. We
can quibble about where I think it's in there somewhere, Sure,
two Saint Elsewhere. I actually would put else Saint Elsewhere
(03:56):
higher because Twayla and I were kind of talking about
this off air. A show I think to be in
the top one hundred list should have a degree of
cultural relevance. And also it's kind of like own your
own space in your era, and Saint Elsewhere was a
huge show in its era. I know it's arbitrary, but
(04:17):
I do know that Saint Elsewhere at ninety two is
better than Daria of MTV at ninety one.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That does not belong on the list, not at all.
It's probably not in the top five hundred.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Check this out at number ninety, number freaking ninety of
the greatest shows of all time, And this is saying
that there are eighty nine shows better than number ninety.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The Cosby Show did in age so well? Did it?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, No, Bill Cosby didn't age so well.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The show itself is still a landmark TV show and
one of the greatest TV shows in history bar none
by a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So can you ever look at it the same way again? Now?
I think that's unfair.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Like, for example, I don't necessarily think Roseanne is less
of a show because Roseanne Barr has gone off the
deep end in recent years.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Yeah, but at the same time, it's not gonna be
the first thing I want to watch anymore after seeing her.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, but I think that's really unfair because the show
itself has nothing to do with what Bill Cosby went
to jail for literally twenty five years later, thirty years later.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I understand your point, but I'm not a big separate
the artist from the art type of person.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh I'm huge, because all the artists are trash when
you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
If you start digging into.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Their personal lives and you found out what they did,
you know, you.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Wouldn't listen or watch anything ever, right, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
If we're only going to talk about the personal failings
and look at their art through that, then I'll just say,
just to get it started, then John Wayne never did
anything in terms of a good movie.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
That is sacrilege right there?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
All right, there you go, That's all I'm saying, you know,
And I separate his personal views from the art that
he created on screen.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
None of us in this studio are fit to hold
that man's to pay.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Oh my goodness, there you go.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Keep going, please, Okay. Number eighty nine, mister Rogers neighborhood.
It's the neighborly day in the Beauty Wood.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's in there.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I can argue against it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
The cultural relevance cannot be disputed. Impact generations of people
grew up on mister Rogers.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
And I think history has really vindicated him and made
the people who mocked him back in the day just
feel like crap.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And yeah, and there is something to it there to
your point, there are TV shows which age well and
don't age well, but I'm not going to pin that
on the personal life of mister Rogers.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I think the movie helped. You know, when you get.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Some historical contexts and you get to see the fullness
of the story behind the story, it makes a difference.
The SAT number eighty eight better than the Cosby show.
General Hospital a soap opera look, and soap operas have
never been known for putting out anything. Now there are
(07:19):
some impactful storylines. Luke and Laura was a sensation back
in the eighties of that perm but the show itself,
and I watched General Hospital, so I can speak from
a point of knowing firsthand. Well, then where's Peyton Place?
Come on, We'll get to it. Okay, Okay, Steph do
(07:40):
you have the clip? The Cosby clip? This is, for example,
a part of the greatness of the Cosby Show, which
had no peer at all in the mid nineteen eighties.
This is Heathcliff Huxtable trying to explain to his son
Theo what it means to live in the real world
(08:01):
and what it means to pay bills.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
You graduate from high school, let's say you just slide by.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right. Now, now you got to find a job.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Now, what kind of salary do you expect for a
regular person?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Two hundred and fifty dollars a week? Two hundred fifty
dollars a week. Yeah, sit down, I'm going to give
you three hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Yes, indeed, three hundred dollars a week, twelve hundred dollars
a month.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
All right, right, I'll take you, Yes you will, And
I will.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Take three hundred and fifty dollars for taxes.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (08:45):
Yeah, now now, because see the government comes for the
regular people first.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Now, now, how much how much does that that leave
you with?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Eight hundred fifty dollars?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
All right, Now, you've got to have an apartment.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Because you are not going to live here.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
So an apartment in Manhattan will run you at least
four hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'll live in New Jersey, all right, live in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You've got to have a car. I'll ride a motorbike.
You need a helmet figure one hundred a month for
clothes and shoe figure two hundred. I want to look good, okay?
(09:43):
So so what's that? What does that leave you with? Two? So?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
No problem?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
There is a problem. You haven't eaten yet.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I can get bar maloney in Sereal.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
So I got anything I need? Plus two hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dollars left for the month. You plan to have a
girlfriend for sure?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
If I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We're going to continue the variety list of the top
one hundred TV shows of all time.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
In just a moment.
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Have you've been a good little girl?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm sorry, Santa.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
You must have the wrong apartment.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, it's me Tom.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
What are you doing?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Just like that, Tom is at children's hospital distributing toys
to the kids.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
He doesn't have a year, Helen, I couldn't get into
our apartment. I forgot my key?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Why didn't you slide down a chimney?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's very funny. Little boy? Who do you call him?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Boy?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Ho?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Little man?
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Well?
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And that was the Jeffersons.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
As we talk about the top one hundred TV shows
of all time according to Variety, and of course with
these lists meant to create debate, discussion and disagreement, this
list is trash. It had Cosby at number ninety. They're
not eighty nine shows, more impactful, better landmarking nature than
(11:37):
the Cosby Show, not eighty nine shows.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And as we go through the list, I will be
proven right. We're on number eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
We left off with at General Hospital, which was number
eighty eight according to Variety, Number eighty seven Happy Days.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It's in the top one hundred.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
We can quibble about where, but it's in the top
one hundred, eighty six better than the Cosby show Girls
on HBO.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
It's getting laughable.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Come on now, geez, that's a big negatory, right, Number
eighty five Colombo. Oh that should be higher. Yeah, right,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Number eighty four Atlanta not a fan. I don't even
know what that is.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
That's Donald Glover's show on FX Top one hundred, okay,
Number eighty three Stranger Things. Yeah, I don't know about
top hundred. I like the show and I've seen every episode.
I'm kind of sticking with your point now, like just
not better than Cosby. Right, We've had some recency bias here.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
The fact that you like something that's been fairly recent
doesn't mean that it's among the greatest of all.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Time, right right.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Number eighty two Amazon Prime Videos Fleabag. I don't think so.
Eighty one thirty something, No, how did that get there?
That's yeah. Number eighty Scandal not Top one hundred. I've
seen every episode of Scandal, have you.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I liked it? Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I have, yes, part of it because my wife then
fiance loved.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The show, So blame it on her. Okay, No, I wouldn't.
I'm just saying this is felonious. Yeah, like you said, good,
but yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
This show did not change the landscape of television the
way shows were made, if it wasn't water cooler talk
to the point where it made news and things like that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It doesn't belong on this list.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I think these writers whoever put this list together probably
came up in the age of social media and YouTube.
Honestly do honestly do seventy nine The Buppet Show, Yes
that Yeah, seventy eight Dallas, Yes, yeah, and we're just
saying yes, since top.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
One hundred, we may not agree the place.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, Number seventy seven The Daily Show with John Stewart, Yeah, okay, sure, yeah.
Number seventy six Fresh Prince of bel Air. Yeah, I'll
hear that. Here, I'll hear that ar Yeah. Oh here
there are number seventy five Taxi Yes, yep, might even
be higher, should be number seventy four Deadwood.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Especially if Deadwood's on this list. Oh, Deadwood's terrific. How
could you argue against that?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Again, only like two three seasons, but like it does
it belong on this list of top one hundred. It
was absolutely brilliant. What is not on this list? Because
Deadwood is is the prime?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Who did you bump off? Listen? If Top Chef's on there,
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
That's true?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Hey, hey, fair enough?
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Did Top Chef change the landscape of television.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
It did. I did.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, America's Top Chef.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
There is an entire network.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Built on Top Chef.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Okay, I'll hear that argument.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Genre.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, I'll hear that argument. That's a good argument. Number
seventy three is NYPD Blue. I was a fan of it.
I don't know how great the show was. I thought
Dennis Franz was great. I don't know if the show
itself was.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I once asked David Caruso about his pasty white ass
in an interview because of that show.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Okay, you gotta give context.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
People don't know that was the first pasty white ass
on broadcast televis right, and he got furious with me
at a round table interview. So let's let's keep that
in the top one hundred. Big deal back there, that
was a huge deal. Everybody was talking about you want
a water cooler show?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
That was that.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Okay, nudity on broadcast television never been done before.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That was a famous ass at the time, still is.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Actually because I don't think they've ever done it since
on broadcast television. They've done it on like, you know,
HBO whatever, but not broadcast. Seventy two the Wonder Years. Yes,
seventy one Living Single, I don't I like it. Yeah,
I like Top one hundred now I love the show,
but yeah, Number seventy The People versus O. J.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Simpson, Are you kidding me? That's a little weird.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's on here, and we interview Courtney Vance, who played
Johnny Cochrane. I loved it, but it's not Top one hundred.
I'm sorry, these people are high. Number sixty nine. We
may mentioned of her earlier, separating the artists from the
art Roseanne absolutely absolutely, yeah, absolutely, sixty eight Rays of
the Anatomy.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, yeah, I know why they put it on. I
don't like it, but whatever, right.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Number sixty seven this, I think there's an argument to
be made here RuPaul's drag Race. Yeah, okay, for the
cultural MP yes, similar to the top Chef argument.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Number sixty six Bob Newhart Show. That should be higher,
ye question, Yes, Number sixty five Freaks and.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Geeks, No should be highed. That's well, that's good, but
is the top one top one hundred?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It was not landmark even for nerd culture.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
It was only on two seasons that actually one season.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's god, I mean it was.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
It was much beloved by nerds.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But that's like, how does the top hundred show get
canceled after one season?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I mean that everybody involved in that show went on
to be a big star. Yes, but I don't know
the show itself is in the top one hundred. Sixty
four The Jeffersons, Yes, absolutely. Three Angels in America HBO,
what exactly?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Non, I know I know what that shows.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
That's the documentary like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Sixty two The Comeback HBO.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Sixty one Orange is the New Black? Come on?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Oh? Sixty in Living Color? Definitely? Yeah. The Sketch Show, Yeah, definitely, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Fifty nine South Park, Yes, absolutely, fifty eight The Good Place?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Who made this list? What are we doing with the
Good Place? Fifty seven Chappelle Show? Love it, but not
top one, right right?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I loved it as far as sketch shows, Living Colors
better than Chappelle's show.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
The Blue made this list? Have amnesia? They're insane?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, Number fifty six Law and Order Special Victims Unit.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah, better than the original Law and Order. Well we haven't.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
We haven't got through the yet list yet, so so
they may be higher.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I mean Special victims.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's that's pretty. It's toughed a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Number fifty five from Netflix, its first entrant, bo Jack Horseman.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
No way, no, no, no, no no. Remember what I
said about these people being high.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
That's right, that's right. Number fifty four Gilmore Girls. No,
don't Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I've never seen. This is thirty.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Five shows better than The Cosby Show, GTFHWTBS way fifty three,
six feet under good but not top one hundred. Don't
tell me that. It's just slightly not as good as
number fifty two. The Tonight Shows starring Johnny Carson iconic, iconic.
(18:40):
That might even be top ten, okay, top ten. Number
fifty one Arrested Development. That was good, better than Johnny Carson.
That no, absolutely not Number fifty My so called Life,
which was only on for a season.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
This is crazy. We got to go to a break.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
We're halfway through the top one hundred shows of all
time according to Variety, and they've been high on weed
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Because there's no in the world in it. This makes sense.
Be sure to stick around for the top fifty.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
TV shows of all time, well at least according to Variety.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
For whatever it's worth.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty Aha.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Caught in the ax leaping down, trying to get what
the presents are.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Huh, nobody feels much. I guess in the presence.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I think we had a postpone Christmas to Mom can
talk again. One for that, me too. Let's gip Christmas
this year.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Okay, it's unanimous. We'll cancel Christmas, take the tree down,
get the presence back to the store. I'll throw the
turkey away. Of course, might disappoint your mother a little,
you said, one tough break already, she and your dad.
We're looking forward to us all having a wonderful first
(20:06):
Christmas together. I want to worry about how they feel.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We don't want to disappoint them. But of course not.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
Oh, that's exactly what you'd be doing.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It was your idea, Marsha, I only made because Mom
can't sing tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You can't throw the turkey away, Alice, It's got my
favorite dressing. Don't worry, honey, I won't.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
I just wanted you all to realize you didn't really
mean what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You sure scared me. Okay, everybody else have been.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Now come on It's Later with Moe Kelly Kfi AM
six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we're
talking about the top one hundred TV shows of all
time according to Variety. They're crazy, they're insane, they're wrong,
but it's fun to discuss and debate these lists. And
we left off at number fifty and number fifty was
My so called Life, which was on for forty five minutes.
(20:56):
It seemed I don't know if they even finished a
complete season, which make this list bogus. But number forty
nine another show which is only on for one season,
and I liked it a lot. But if you only
lasted one season, how could you be in the greatest
of all time? Because clearly there wasn't enough support for
the show. Watchmen love the show, not top one hundred, Nope,
(21:20):
Number forty eight and this next show. I loved it personally,
and I think it changed how we looked at cable
dramas as far as how gritty.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It used a lot of profanity, it was very violent.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
People were really they looked at Michael Chicklist in a
different way because of this show. The Shield never seen
it oh, highly recommend. I'm being very stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It's on my list.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, check out the Shield. If you don't like the
first episode, then you won't like the show. If you
like the first episode, you'll like to show.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
If it's got violence and profanity, it has all of that.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's number forty eight.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Number forty seven Friday Night Lights Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Number forty six The Leftovers HBO. This is just getting
laughable now. Number forty five The Dick Van Dyke Show,
Top one hundred, absolutely right. Number forty four Star Trek
(22:19):
the next Generation. They'd better not be ahead of the
original Star Trek. I'm not so sure that the original
Star Trek is on this list. I'm being serious. I'm
being serious. Unacceptable. Number forty three The Larry Sanders Show. Okay, funny, Yeah,
I'll hear it. I'll hear it out. Number forty two
The Americans on FX.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
It's fantastic, but I don't know if it's top one
hundred again, you even making one of them like bing
it if you're in the hospital, right, if you're completely
immobilized captive audience.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Number forty one, and this one I actually agree with
Twala tell me what you think the real world?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Absolutely absolutely, This show literally gave birth to reality the
television which rules TV right now.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Can't argue with that, can't argue with that. Number forty
Buffy the Vampire Slayer get Out, I mean the cult following. Yeah,
but top one hundred, Number thirty nine, The Office, I'll
hear that, I'll hear that discussion.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'm not sold. It changed.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It was so different in its presentation and breaking the
fourth wall.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Fourth wall break just as quick.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
I would put that just right under Larry Sanders because
he kind of started that. Okay, Okay, that's all right, okay.
Number thirty eight The X Files, Yes, solid, solid, Yeah.
Number thirty seven enlightened. These folks really like HBO shows.
And when I like HBO show, I couldn't say you
it's like all HBO. These people can go boil their heads.
(23:48):
It keeps going. I said, HBO shows. Number thirty six,
curb your enthusiasm. Well, that's really good. I like it,
but not not this high up. Number thirty five Late
Night with David Letter, yep, ye, yessolutely yes absolutely. Number
thirty four er yes, yeah, I like your number thirty
three Jeopardy Yes, absolutely if you're gonna throw in game shows, yeah,
(24:12):
Jeopardy game shows.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
You got to have match game in there, or this
whole list is invalid, which I suspect it already is.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
No, I would say Hollywood Squares before match game. You're nuts?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
No, no, what, No Hollywood Squares before match game? And
I'm a Jean Rayburn fan, but I would still as
far as impact Hollywood Squares and you actually, you'd have
to throw a wheel of fortune.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Honestly, you'd have to throw in family feud.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
What are you true?
Speaker 7 (24:36):
Oh? I can't do this. I can't do this. You're
both out of your minds. Number three okay, thirty three
is Jeopardy. Number thirty two is Lost. That's a garbage show.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
That's trap garbage now.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Number thirty one Survivor, Yes, yeah, yeah, not because it
was great that the impact of what it's spawned I have.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, I can't argue with that. Is this a list
of top hundred shows you have on while you're folding laundry?
I wasn't a.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Survivor fan, but I can't deny how Survivor changed television
in the way that the real world did. Aren't they
like a like fiftieth season. Yeah, I can't argue it.
Number thirty Hill Street Blues, all right, name I like
Hillstreet Blues.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The number twenty nine Friends.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I never watched what episode, so I can't Yeah, yeah, okay,
I mean I know people were say, can you name
one hundred shows?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
No, I was telling that I was giving him my
top ten. I couldn't even think of ten.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Number twenty eight the Civil War PBS ken Burns sounds perfunctory. Yeah,
Number twenty seven twin Peaks. I didn't care for it. Oh, oh,
loved it, Okay. Number twenty six Veep another HBO show. No,
but no funny, but not that high, right, right, And
when we come back, we'll get into the top twenty
(25:56):
five TV shows of all time according to Variety.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
And it's going to piss you the f off.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I promise you don't go anywhere. We'll have more of
some of the best of twenty twenty four as we
listen back. It's Later with mo Kelly, Heyfi and iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (26:34):
Lacam Latham, Latham, Yama.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Later with Mo Kelly and as we go through the
top twenty five at this point of the top one
hundred of the best TV shows in history, according to Variety,
and it's a horrible list. They sucked us in, you know,
because invariably they want you debate and discuss it and
be mad, and we're doing all those things. It's a
(27:05):
horrible list, Top twenty five of the one hundred. West
Wing comes in at number twenty five, and we're just saying,
does it belong or not? I'll allow it. I don't
know if it's top twenty five. In fact, I doubt
it is, but I'll allow it on the list. Number
twenty four, Mash definitely gotta have it, Number twenty three,
(27:28):
The Carol Burnett Show, Yes, number twenty two, thirty Rock.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Right, that's a reach.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
That's a reach, And it's definitely not top twenty five,
No way, Number twenty one. I saw every episode of
this show, and there's no way that it's in the
top twenty five of all time. Game of Thrones, No, no, No,
number twenty sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I think that should be top ten.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
It wouldn't have occurred to me to put it in there,
but I worship Mike Wallace.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, Number nineteen nineteen. Play excuse me, Playhouse ninety. I
never saw it is from the mid late fifties.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Great stuff like Rod Serling's patterns and stuff like that
change TV.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Very important show.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Okay, number eighteen, the Golden Girls, I don't think so.
Oh yes, I would fight for the Golden Girls.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
The thing is, you can have The Golden Girls at
eighteen and Cosby Show at ninety.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
You can't justify that it's not a hill. I want
to die on.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Okay, number seventeen, the Oprah Winfrey Show. That hill I'll
die on. Yeah, I would pick Donahue. That's before Oprah.
I'm being serious because he started. Yes, number sixteen All
in the Family, you should be ranked higher. But yes,
number fifteen Saturday Night Live the first few years for sure.
(29:00):
But yeah, they're taking seventy five to present. So they're
saying the totality of it, And honestly, I don't see
how you could have Saturday Night Live and not have
laugh In.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I love laugh In. I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I'm just saying, as far as sketch shows go, laughing
I think has more of a footprint in changing television
to me than Saturday Night Live. Agree, a number fourteen
Twilight Zone, No debate, there should be higher. Yep, number thirteen.
I've seen every episode of this show, and they're wrong.
(29:33):
This is just such an HBO bias list. Succession.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
You know, this is my comment on the whole list.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
If you think Succession is a better show than the
Twilight Zone, find a different career. Nothing you have to
say is of interest to me at all. This Succession,
for as much as I liked it, it did not
change television at all. Once again, a great show, but no, no,
no way should.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Be this high.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Number twelve, Sesame Street, I don't allow it. Yeah, it
changed a television program like Fred Rogers of several generations,
but I think they should be closer in proximity on
this list. Yeah, number eleven again we're at that NBC problem.
Cheers Cheers definitely, but don't tell me Cheers is number
(30:15):
eleven and Cosby's ninety once again. Yeah, number ten. And
if you're not old enough to remember this and not
old enough to understand the cultural significance and how it
changed television, the conversations which were had on news because
of the show, then you know you won't understand.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Roots comes in at number ten. Or is my grade
school teachers called it roots? You're watching that roots?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Well, that's a that's a was was your teacher from
down South?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Because they say roots down South? No. Number nine, Mary
Tyler Moore show, no argument whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Number eight Seinfeld's.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Yes and no thing. There's yes and no. I look,
I'm not mad. I've watched a lot of Seinfeld. But
the ranking because unless this is in no particular order,
and this is just one hundred shows that should be
on this list, fine, but but si fous some of
these other shows, it's not it's.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
A ranking order. Number seven The Wire. I don't know
if I would have put as high as seven.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
But it's on the list.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
But it's probably the archetypal great HBO show.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
But yeah, maybe too high for high Number.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Six, Colleen, See this is this list was made by HBO.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
They paid for this.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yes, they did. Number six Sex in the City. I
have to take a.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
Blood pressure pill right now because this is pissing me
off too badly.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Entourage before Sex and the City, and I've seen all
of Sex in the City. Yeah, I would take the
news room before sex and this.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
We talk about a show that doesn't age well that
is one of them.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Number five, breaking bad, number five. I agree, No, no,
you agree that it should be at number five. Yes, somewhere, heresy, heresy,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Man, it's I'm taking your television away.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
He doesn't have a television, he has a tablet. Oh god.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Number four, and I would agree with this for a
number of reasons. The Simpsons, Yes, yes, yeah, all right,
Look it's been on for.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Thirty years, so I mean that right there, kind of
like that's the rest. You're kind of a size queen, though,
aren't you. You say a short Wow, let's just be
honest here. You say a short show with only one
season doesn't merit anything but just by virtue of the
fact that something's been around a long time.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
No, the thirty years is one aspect of it, but
also the idea of late night animation, adult cartoon.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Record breaking storytelling. I mean, this show, damn near has
predicted the future and her number of times. I mean like,
this show is something.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Else once again that should be buckled up right next
to Cosby, like true true time wise. Yeah, yeah, that's
number four. Number three, let me guess, HBO. The Sopranos,
All right, I didn't even watch that. I would say
top twenty. I don't know if I would say top three,
top ten. Yeah, it's it's in there. It's a discussion. Yeah,
(33:14):
number two, mo mad Men.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
This list, I'm going to find Madmin is not.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
The second best television show of all times. These people
can rot in hell in hell, man, there's no argument
that you could make that mad Men is the second
best television show in terms of import influence.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Not unless the cousin of the director of mad Men
wrote it's.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Probably only the second best TV show on AMC. Where
is the original Star Trek? Yeah, come on, it's not
on the list. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
The Star Trek the next generation made the list, but
Star Trek the original series didn't make the list.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I don'ught to tell you how to out of order.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
This is uh huh and the number one TV show
in history, out of the top one hundred, as according
to Variety.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I actually agree with this. I love Lucy, I agree, Yeah,
I agree. I can't argue with that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
I agree with this for the simple fact that without
I Love Lucy, Your be Love, Star Trek doesn't exist,
as do several shows that were produced by desil Loustu.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Inclusion impossible absolutely, which didn't make the list.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
The impact of what.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Right, Yeah yeah, owning it yes, three camera Yeah, you can't,
you can't.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
I want every critic who compiled this list audited and deported.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Wow, you want to you want to set him out
the country? I want them disappeared to a black site
and waterboarding. It's kind of harsh, but I can't disagree.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
That's the thing. Send him to the island that that's
a hill. I'm not going to die on. You know, waterboarding.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Okay, it may be illegal, but you know, whatever happened
in the black site stays in a black site, shallow
grave in the desert. I hope you're as mad as
we are. Caf I AM six forty. We're lived everywhere
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