September 17, 2024 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; Long Beach Post/WNBA Reporter and host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on the backlash against WNBA Star Caitlin Clark’s “liking” Taylor Swift’s post endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris AND the cancellation of the Portland State/South Dakota match-up due to an outbreak of whooping cough…PLUS – Thoughts on the resurgence of Measles in the U.S. AND a look at your weekly horoscope - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Kate, I Am six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's Go Beyond
the box Score with Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good evening, good evening, Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I could not wait to get to the story.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We've talked a lot about Caitlyn Clark, but also her fans.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Her fans are very fickle.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We've talked about how their fans may not actually be
WNBA fans, they may not even be basketball fans, because
just in case I know, you know, but just in
case someone listening may not know. Caitlin Clark has received
a lot of pushback because she dared to like the
Taylor Swift post of endorsement of Kamala Harris. Kaitlin Clark,
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who has never said anything publicly about her politics. She
has said nothing about whether she's a Democrat. She has
said that she is a self confirmed Swifty. Now she
received all sorts of hate, all sorts of hate, and
I want to make a distinction between online hate and
actual hate. As far as politicians and so forth, or
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even political commentators, but she received a lot of hate online.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
What did you make of that?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So I've been on record you can listen to my podcast,
go to any of my social media's. I've been on
record saying that I am not a fan of Caitlyn
Clark because.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I like players that are complete from head to toe.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I know you have said, well, Jackie, she's young, give
her time, she might develop into that. So I was
interested to see how she would handle the flip side
of it, because, like you said, she liked the post.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
She was asked about that.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Kaitlyn, you liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor
Swift that got a lot of attention, and I'm just
curious if you could tell us what that post meant
to you and if you are in fact potentially going
to endorse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
I think for myself is you know, I have this
amazing platform, So I think the biggest thing would be
just encourage people to register to vote. I think for myself,
as the second time I can vote an election at
age twenty two, I could vote when I was eighteen,
So I think do that that's the biggest thing I
can do with the platform. That I have, and that's
the same thing Taylor did, And I think continue to
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educate yourself with the candidates that we have, the policies
that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest thing you
can do, and that's what I would recommend to every
single person that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Didn't go into anything about her policies or anything like that.
Kaitlin has been very calculated on not saying much about anything.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But when you see I saw one.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Person post, well, I don't want to say one person
because it was hundreds of people say, hey, you know what,
we liked you because you seemed like you were one
of us.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
You know?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And then the other one said, you know, we liked
you because you didn't seem like you were part of
WoT culture and now you turned your back on us.
And one person even said I only watched because of
you because you seem like you were part of again,
one of us. So there was a definite distinction, and
I think it's really I don't know if I want
to say concerning, because at this point it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
At this point I'm used to it.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I get it, like I'm not going to associate on
a personal level with someone who dives headfirst into the
policies of the former president. So I get wanting to
separate yourself personally, But attacking somebody online when you're not
going to change their mind and they're a kid, basically,
it's very odd to me.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's not odd to me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think it's just unfortunate, if only because Caitlin Clark
and I'm not going to have her be thirty years old.
I'm not going to have her expect her to have
a degree of composure or wisdom of a thirty year
old person. She's trying to navigate her personal life, her
professional career, and all this other stuff completely unrelated to it.
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I'm not going to hold it to some unrealists standard.
I am more amazed that the Caitlin Clark fans don't
realize they're telling on themselves that they liked her for
reasons really having nothing to do with basketball. They wanted
her to represent a viewpoint that had nothing to do
with basketball, and they were rooting against Angel Reese for
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reasons that had nothing to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But I am sympathetic to Caitlin Clark because as far
as I can see for the most part, she's just
going out there in balling and balling out playing very well.
But this is just something which I think highlights the
problem I think we have in society where if we
like the person, we expect them to view the world
as we do, and if they don't view the world
as we do, then we must dislike that person. And
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also you have those people who think that well, you
should just shut up and dribble, you should just shut
up and play basketball. No, they are people with fully
formed personalities and views of the world, and.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They also played basketball. And see. The thing is what
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You're going to be mad at Caitlin Clark for liking
a post and tell her to shut up and dribble,
But then you don't have a problem with Kid Rock
or Hulk Hogan. I mean, it's entertainments of a different kind.
I mean, the hypocrisy is very, very self evident.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I feel like people think that their views are okay.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You're putting your ideology onto someone and you've never even
had a conversation with this person face to face.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's the weird part to me.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
This person has been calculated and not saying anything, So
you you look crazy, assuming that they think like you
think when they've never said anything of the sort.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well not only well, now, not only do you look crazy.
I think the optics of Caitlin Clark not being African American,
coming from Iowa University of Iowa, and also playing the
game at such a high level and having this worldwide acclaim,
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I think it made it very easy for people to
buy in that into that misconception.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And that's on them, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
When we talked about Caitlin Clark, we were just talking
about whether she could ball, whether she couldn't ball, and
the understanding that there was going to be and there
has been this adjustment period.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
People put this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
On top of her, that she was somehow something that
she was not.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think the lesson here is and not that people
are going to learn it. The lesson here is, these
folks just played basketball. You don't know necessarily what they believe,
what they want to believe or not. She said that
she was the swiftie. She didn't say anything else about
what she supposedly liked or not. So you know, if
you put your hand in and you got burned, that's
on you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, and the thing is that this is such a
weird time to all of a sudden be on her
back because she liked the post. Because what I think people,
if they were real fans, what they'd be applauding right
now is the lack of chemistry the Indiana Fever had
when she joined the team. And now you would think
that they're having sleepovers every night because they are gelling
so well, They're all playing their role so well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
She is one of the leaders in that.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think she recognized that people were just kind of
figuring out what she was going to do, and she's
been the caveat and saying no, we are a team.
There are so many things that you could be applauding
her as far as her the evolution of her game
in a very short period of time.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Who cares what she liked?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, the problem is these aren't actual basketball fans. These
are not actual WNBA fans. To your point, they should
be ecstatic about how the Fever is doing. They should
be extatic about how the league is doing. They should
be ecstatic about what Caitlin Clark has been bringing to basketball.
More broadly, the broadening of the conversations as far as
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where we're talking about the WNBA. But instead these same
fans again air quotes, because I don't believe they were
ever fans were more concerned about her liking a post
of Taylor Swift when she is a confirmed swiftye and
they say, keep politics out of my sports. Well, she's
liking Taylor's Swift. She is not making a public statement
(08:03):
about I am endorsing Kamala Harris. If she did that,
I would be more inclined to say, Okay, now she's
bringing her politics into sport.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
She's liking a post by Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I tell people all the time politics affect people. Newsflash,
basketball players or people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
They're gonna have a very uncomfortable few months, That's all
I know. Because you get this to yourselves, you're making
yourselves angry. She didn't betray you, You just didn't ask
her the right question.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's later with both Kelly can't b I am Sex
forty were live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and when
we come back, I heard that measles had been eradicated.
In fact, I know it was eradicated as of the
year two thousand. We'll talk about that later in the show,
but Also, did you hear about the college football game
which was canceled over the weekend due to a whooping
cough exposure. Someone told me it was twenty twenty four,
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but I guess they lie.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
With kf I mo' kelly Live.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, we're continuing to go beyond
the box score, and let's talk about this college football.
Portland State canceled its Week three meeting with South Dakota
because of an outbreak of whooping cough within the football program.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I didn't know that whooping cough was still a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But if you combine that with vaccine deniers, if you
combine that with vaccine hesitancy as they call it, or skepticism,
yeah it makes sense. Polio's made a comeback, measles is
made a comeback.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Now whooping cough has made a comeback. Why, Jackie Ray,
Why I'm.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
So confused by this because unless times have changed. When
I was a kid, you could be a vacine denyer
all you wanted, but if you were going to play sports,
you had to be vaccinated against everything.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So when I saw this, I was like, I have
times changed?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
How in the world did this happen unless whooping cough
got stronger.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I think there are a number of answers, real answers. One.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I believe the rise in homeschooling has allowed children to
circumnavigate certain vaccine requirements. Two, I believe school districts in
certain states have pulled away and pulled back from vaccine requirements.
And this is how we end up here. We have
to deal with these thought to be eradicated diseases that
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we have vaccines that have been around for decades, but
we're letting our politics get in a way of our
good sense. Now here's how I think we can turn
the tide. Bad things, unfortunately going to have to happen,
like this game getting canceled. I think people are going
to have to see the real world consequences of lack
of vaccination of children young adults. They have to lose
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football games, they may even have to lose lives. You
can't have stadiums canceling football games. That's loss of millions
of dollars of revenue. You know that's going to change
all of this eventually.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, I've said that a lot for a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I've said when people have trepidation about vaccines. Don't get
me wrong, When you really look into our big pharma system,
I get any kind of trepidation. But when you also
look at the stuff we were dying from before that
we're not dying from now, I think there should be
like some sort of and this is just my two cents,
take it or leave it. I do think that sometimes
they push too many vaccines into us at once. Maybe
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space it out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So say that again, Say that again, because there is
nuance in this conversation.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Say that again.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think they push a lot of vaccines into us
at one time.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think spread that out a little.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Bit, give your body a little bit of space to
make sure it handles everything right. But I still think
there's conversations because like it or not, there's things that
we should not be dying from. There's things that should
not cause an outbreak on an entire team.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Whooping cough is one of them. And on top of that,
I think.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
That if you are, for whatever reason, if you are
one of the reasons why these these diseases and these
things that should be gone are making a comeback, there
should be consequences. So personally, I think that it's Portland
that got the whooping cough, right, So Portland should have
to pay at least for the chartered flights and things
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of that nature because the other school had to pay
for all that, and because you didn't do your due diligence,
now we're out of money.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right right, And there's no clarity on whether the game
is going to be rescheduled.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That may be just done and gone. But I think
that is an answer to it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You know the team which is responsible for the outbreak,
because hip hop will never know who or why or exactly,
but we know what team or program is responsible, and
that university should be held responsible for the lost revenue
because football, regardless of whether it's Division one, Division two,
big money, big money, and a lot of these games
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are still televised.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Locally m hm, and fans plan around that.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Fans who might have had to work that day took
the day off so they could go see their favorite team.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And now you got whooping cough.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's funny, but it's not funny because yes, you do
have to take these precautions. But Portland also could have
They could have been more diligent in saying, hey, there's
one person on our team that has this disease that
shouldn't be around.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We have to cancel this game.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
That's immediate. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, that's the real question because when you say outbreak,
it's like, was there one and did you not report
it thinking that it might be okay and then it
became out of control because you tried to hide it
or was it something else?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, that's the thing that I think we won't ever know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But big picture, when we talk about vaccine hesitancy and skepticism,
I think the only way we'll get back to where
we were saying nothing of the COVID vaccines, right and
messenger RNA okay, saying nothing. That the only way we
can get back to where we were, unfortunately, is that
people understand the consequences of what we're not doing right now,
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not taking care of business. We will have to lose stuff,
We may have to lose people, we may have to
lose revenue for people to realize, hey, it is not
in our collective best interests to keep going down this path.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
But that's how vaccines were easily distributed before is because
people saw so many people kept dying from it. So
it's easy to say to people if you don't want
to die from this, you have to take this. But
now we've got so many different opinions and we haven't
seen massive death I'm still surprised that the massive deaths
we saw from COVID hasn't struck that chord. But for
whatever reason, people still think it's a strong flu. That's
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literally still the narrative around COVID. But once you once
something really does take out massive lives, then I think
people will be more open to protecting not only themselves
but the people around them and their children or elderly
or elderly, I mean, just care about your common man.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Leave it well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We haven't done that for quite some time, so I
don't look. If COVID didn't do it, this ain't gonna
do it. Fact, it's later with bo Kelly can if
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Speaker 4 (15:11):
You're listening too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I remember growing up and I was maybe three or
four years old, and I hated going to the doctor.
Hated because I was really afraid of needles. Hated it
and for whatever reason, when we went to the doctor,
that meant I was getting some sort of shot. Too
young to know what. I just knew that it was
a needle. It was going to go in my arm.
I wasn't gonna like it. It was gonna hurt, and
(15:37):
I thought if I cried enough, then maybe the doctor
would leave me alone. For whatever reason. It never worked,
not once screaming bloody murder. Still had the shot. Now,
what I didn't understand was it was a part of
my just routine vaccination schedule, just so I could go
to school. Because back in the early nineteen seventies it
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was a big deal because of the generation just before
us having to deal with polio and other diseases, found
a way to get a handle on them, you know, vaccinations,
especially when it came to at least the public schools.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Last night, I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Was bumping around the internet and I came across the
CBS News report, and I guess, with maybe confirmation biased
because it was confirming what I thought was happening with
all these new diseases, which are old diseases coming back
like bell bottoms and butterfly collars, that just back everything
old is new again and the things that we had conquered,
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so I thought we actually have not conquered or now
they're just unconquered. Because did you know that measles was
considered eradicated in the year two thousand, eradicated all the
stuff we talked about, like homelessness. You know, we can't
eradicate We could eradicate diseases eradicated in two thousand and
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now it's back with a vengeance.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Fall is fast approaching, which means flu season and a
probable optic in cases of COVID. Of course, there's a
vaccine for that, but there seems to be an epidemic
of doubt among some Americans. We've asked our doctor John
Lepook for his diagnosis.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Thanks to all those shots in the arm. In the
year two thousand, measles in the United States was declared eliminated.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
The CDC is warning about the rise in measles infections
in the US.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
There have been twenty but.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Now it's coming back, with measles cases reported from California
to Vermont. And now that's what I was saying, a
big reason across the country. In twenty twenty three, more
families exempted their children from routine immunizations than ever before.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
There's never been a better time in human history to
tackle an infectious disease than today. There's so many things
we can do, from vaccines to antivirals, anbiotics, and yet
I am dumbfounded by the volume of anti vaxed voices.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Doctor Howard Markel is a medical historian retired from the
University of Michigan. He's also an author and pediatrician.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Check this out how history seemingly keeps repeating itself.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
We've been here before, doctor Markel says.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Vaccine hesitancy is as old as the United States. In
the seventeen hundreds, when smallpox was ravaging the colonies, some
people were given an early form of viminization called variolation.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
You went to a doctor who had this infectious material,
dry puffs and detritus of smallpox scars and so on,
and then they would cut you open, make a slice
of your arm and inoculate put it in your arm.
And half of the people got really sick and some
of them died. So it cost a lot and it
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was dangerous, but the people who recovered they were right immune.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Benjamin Franklin decided it was too dangerous for his sickly
four year old son, Frankie.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
One of Franklin's Wait. Wait, Benjamin Franklin's son was named Frankie.
He was Frankie Franklin little egoistical? Huh did I hear
that right?
Speaker 10 (19:20):
Benjamin Franklin decided it was too dangerous for his sickly
four year old son, Frankie yep.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
One of Franklin's great regrets was that he did not
get his son inoculated, instilled with smallpox virus to prevent
what ultimately killed him.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
He went to his grave regretting that absolutely. In the
eighteen hundreds, as a much safer smallpox vaccine was developed,
many cities and states started requiring smallpox vaccination. At the
University of California at Berkeley in nineteen oh two, it
was mandatory. What was the reaction here at Berkeley about
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a century ago when students were forced to get vaccinated
against small.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
They were up in arms about it, and people in
town shared them on.
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Professor Elena Konis is a medical historian at UC Berkeley.
In nineteen oh five, the Supreme Court ruled the government
has the authority to require vaccination.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Weoll imagine that today how that would go over? Wow.
Speaker 12 (20:20):
This importantly had the effect of energizing a lot of
anti vaccine groups, and the anti vaccine groups at the
time believe that they were defenders of individual liberty.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
But by the nineteen fifties, there was one thing that
united Americans their fear of polio.
Speaker 13 (20:38):
The three year statistics run fifty thousand polio cases, one
hundred and three thousand cases, one hundred and twenty two
thousand cases, where one of them the.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Idea that your child would be paralyzed or worse condemned
to an iron lung, this giant tank where your head
sticking out and that's how you breathe for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That terrified people.
Speaker 13 (21:00):
And historic victory over a dread disease dramatically.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
When doctor Jonas Sauk invented the polio vaccine, he was
considered a hero.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And the entire world Harold did the discovery, which a
short an m or one of mankind's most bread diseases.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Here's the thing about polio. There are a lot of
people still living today who suffered from polio. It's not
like smallpox, where we don't have a personal reference point.
Smallpox is probably pretty abstract. It's not like you can say, oh, yeah,
dad has smallpox. No but there are a lot of
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people who say, yes, I had polio, or my mother
or grandparent had polio, people that you've met and coexisted
with in this life. But now it's like polio's backs like, nah,
no big deal. Weasels back, Nah, no big deal. We
don't need to worry about it. I don't trust big pharma.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I get it. I get it. I understand why you
don't trust big pharma.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I just don't understand why people don't love their fellow brother,
their fellow American more.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
And that's more rhetorical than anything.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, we could do something about measles and polio
and all these other infectious diseases because they've already invented
vaccines that have been tested the world over for decades
and decades. I mean, it's not like this stuff ain't hard.
We just have to have some common sense. But you know,
as they say, common sense at all that common.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
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That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Let's get to the horoscope, and here is your weekly
horoscope for this week. Have deep conversations with partner, and
it's a good time for career zodiacs.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Now, let's start off with Aries.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This week gives you Aries a lot of energy and
enthusiasm at work. You could be in charge of big
projects or step out in brave new ways. But be
careful about what you say because rash words could lead
to misunderstandings. When it comes to relationships, Patience is key
to keeping the peace. Man's that's just about for everybody,
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ye know, that's just for areas.
Speaker 14 (24:42):
That's how you know these things are accurate. My goodness,
you'll see the difference. Keep going, misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let me tell you, Taurus, this week's stability and safety
are important, especially when it comes to money. If you
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When you're in love. Now is the time to strengthen
your feelings without being too possessive. Take care of yourself first.
To handle the week's demands. See different Okay, we'll see Gemini,
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Mark Ronner. You Mark Ronner will be more creative and
interested in learning new things. With new ideas and teamwork,
things are likely to get more exciting. Personal relationships will
get stronger if you spend time with other people and
have deep conversations. Mark make time to rest for your
mental health.
Speaker 14 (25:32):
Sound advice. Nobody else could have given me that advice.
I really appreciate the specificity. You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Thank you cancer.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
This week, your feelings might be stronger, which could make
you more aware of what's going on around you. Your
nurturing side is strong right now, so now it's a
great time to spend time with family and friends. When
it comes to your career, finish up tasks that you've
been putting off before taking on new ones. Leo, this week,
you'll do great at work and in social situations. People
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will respect your leadership skills and you might you just
might get credit for your hard work, But don't put
too much pressure on yourself. If you are in love,
having a heart to heart talk could make your relationship
even stronger.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Only for Leos.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes, okay, Virgo, you are very good at analyzing things
this week, which makes it a great time to set
your thoughts and tasks in order. You can be successful
at work if you pay attention to the little things.
Take a more practical approach to any problems that are
still going on in your relationships. Don't think too much,
just trust the process.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Elma, you're a Libra. Correct. Okay, that's a thumbs up.
I have to translate to the audience, right, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
In other words, if I don't acknowledge your thumbs up,
people just think you're just ignoring me.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
I'm not nuver.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, you can see me, but they can't see me.
I can see you, but they can't see you or
your thumb.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm starting to understand the radio not so much of
visual medium.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It turns out I love it, Libra Elmer this week, Elmer.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Balance is the word. You will have to work.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You will have to balance work, relationships and your own goals.
Set priorities for what matters to keep from getting too
busy when it comes to love. Being honest with each
other will help clear up any confusion. Well yeah, of course, Okay,
Lies or not going.
Speaker 14 (27:30):
To know, especially crafted for lovel right.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Just don't tell the truth. The truth is never the
best option. The cover up is only worse than the
crime is. If you get caught, Spare the other person.
Spare them what a horoscope?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Downers? Are you?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Oh? I left the horoscope. I was just giving him
some sage advice. The horoscope says, keep your feet on
the ground and be mindful.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
No, f that you know, do what you need to
do to make it through the knife safely.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, And telling your woman about all the stuff that
you've been doing is not ever going to bring peace
in your relationship.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Don't let her go through your phone. Well that's me
all this elm.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Trust your horoscope, okay, all right, Tawallas scorpio, Trust your
horror scope. This week could bring strong feelings and big insights.
You might want to think about yourself and grow as
a person.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Did you hear Taula how he emphasized the first syllable
of horoscope.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I did. I did. That was intentional. He didn't
catch us sick. Sick.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
When it comes to your career, stay away from power
struggles and office politics.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now, that is true.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Being open and honest can help you build stronger relationships
with people you like, but don't keep too many things
from them.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
What's what this? Honesty and olden than this?
Speaker 12 (28:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is right on time for me. I needed this?
Thank you? All right? Sagittarius, This is me.
Speaker 12 (28:51):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You might want to see more of the world, whether
that means traveling or reading. Well, yes, that's true. When
it comes to your career. Now is the time to
take calculated risks, but not make hasty choices. Okay, I'm quitting,
I'm leaving KFI. This is not what this is well,
I know, but the audience. But that would be hasty. Okay,
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all right, and don't be hasty.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Your partner, as in my wife, will be inspired by
your desire to try new things. Hey, I'm gonna get
it to do that thing now, careful, well, I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know, you never know until you ask. Alcohol helps
hurt me.
Speaker 14 (29:31):
Finally, right on time, me actually give it to the
third party.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Ooh, you had to make it weird. You had to
make it weird. Oh man.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Your partner will be inspired by your desire to try
new things, but don't forget to think about what they
need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You damn right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
There's some things that never Okay, Capricorn. This week, your
hard work and determination will pay off, especially in your career.
You'll probably beat praise for your work. It's important to
be patient and not let small disagreements get worse in
personal relationships. When it comes to money, you may need
to plan carefully. Aquarius. This week, you might really want
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to be free and try new things. Right now is
a great time to think outside the box, especially at work.
In relationships, it's important to stay your own person while
being in a partnership. When you talk to people you
care about, keep an opened mind, whatever that means, Pisces.
This week, you should focus on healing your emotions and
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thinking about yourself.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
In other words, to be selfish.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Your intuition will be stronger, which will help you make
smart choices in both your personal and professional life. Instead
of trying to escape problems, you should face them head on.
When it comes to love, being kind will bring harmony.
Here here sounded like here if you say so, yeah,
here the crowd is. I think it's better to keep
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things way because you know, don't tell the truth, hide
the truth.
Speaker 14 (31:04):
I at all not allow yourself to be led astray
by not following your horoscope.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
This week.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
My horoscope said to try new things. I'm saying don't
be led astray. So in other words, don't try new things.
Speaker 14 (31:18):
No, I'm saying, do what you need to do follow this,
but don't be all crazy with it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It is it said to try new things, but so
be hasty. So okay, then I will very slowly and
calmly go to my wife and make an indecent proposal.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
We sure to report back on that. By the way,
we're gonna need to hear the ending.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, I'm not Robert Redford and I don't have a
million dollars, so I think we'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
In fact, you're both correct, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Look, we talked about Robert Redford because last week I
told Mark, hey, you need to see this Robert Redford movie,
Sneakers Robert Redford see and he said he didn't care
for it. He tried to rip it to shreds and
he just reaffirmed he doesn't know anything about movies.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
That's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's Robert Redford, Sydney Portier, dan Ackroyd good River, Phoenix,
Mary McDonald.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You want to get into this, I'll get into it.
But no, no, no, we have to go to break Lucky.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I oh, oh, are you in a rush number? That's
I want to go. You're just gonna cut me off. No,
we're gonna wait extra ten seconds now, Damn that thousand
and one.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Make sure you're all the way finished. Okay, all right,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. We're not here to
make up your mind. We're here to give you the latest.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
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Speaker 4 (32:52):
Lot everywhere on the radio.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Kate, I Am six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's Go Beyond
the box Score with Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good evening, good evening, Good to see you.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I could not wait to get to the story.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We've talked a lot about Caitlyn Clark, but also her fans.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Her fans are very fickle.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We've talked about how their fans may not actually be
WNBA fans, they may not even be basketball fans, because
just in case I know, you know, but just in
case someone listening may not know. Caitlin Clark has received
a lot of pushback because she dared to like the
Taylor Swift post of endorsement of Kamala Harris. Kaitlin Clark,
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who has never said anything publicly about her politics. She
has said nothing about whether she's a Democrat. She has
said that she is a self confirmed Swifty. Now she
received all sorts of hate, all sorts of hate, and
I want to make a distinction between online hate and
actual hate. As far as politicians and so forth, or
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even political commentators, but she received a lot of hate online.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
What did you make of that?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So I've been on record you can listen to my podcast,
go to any of my social media's. I've been on
record saying that I am not a fan of Caitlyn
Clark because.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I like players that are complete from head to toe.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I know you have said, well, Jackie, she's young, give
her time, she might develop into that. So I was
interested to see how she would handle the flip side
of it, because, like you said, she liked the post.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
She was asked about that.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Kaitlyn, you liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor
Swift that got a lot of attention, and I'm just
curious if you could tell us what that post meant
to you and if you are in fact potentially going
to endorse Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
I think for myself is you know, I have this
amazing platform, So I think the biggest thing would be
just encourage people to register to vote. I think for myself,
as the second time I can vote an election at
age twenty two, I could vote when I was eighteen,
So I think do that that's the biggest thing I
can do with the platform. That I have, and that's
the same thing Taylor did, And I think continue to
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educate yourself with the candidates that we have, the policies
that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest thing you
can do, and that's what I would recommend to every
single person that has that opportunity in our country.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Didn't go into anything about her policies or anything like that.
Kaitlin has been very calculated on not saying much about anything.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But when you see I saw one.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Person post, well, I don't want to say one person
because it was hundreds of people say, hey, you know what,
we liked you because you seemed like you were one
of us.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
You know?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And then the other one said, you know, we liked
you because you didn't seem like you were part of
WoT culture and now you turned your back on us.
And one person even said I only watched because of
you because you seem like you were part of again,
one of us. So there was a definite distinction, and
I think it's really I don't know if I want
to say concerning, because at this point it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
At this point I'm used to it.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I get it, like I'm not going to associate on
a personal level with someone who dives headfirst into the
policies of the former president. So I get wanting to
separate yourself personally, But attacking somebody online when you're not
going to change their mind and they're a kid, basically,
it's very odd to me.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's not odd to me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think it's just unfortunate, if only because Caitlin Clark
and I'm not going to have her be thirty years old.
I'm not going to have her expect her to have
a degree of composure or wisdom of a thirty year
old person. She's trying to navigate her personal life, her
professional career, and all this other stuff completely unrelated to it.
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I'm not going to hold it to some unrealists standard.
I am more amazed that the Caitlin Clark fans don't
realize they're telling on themselves that they liked her for
reasons really having nothing to do with basketball. They wanted
her to represent a viewpoint that had nothing to do
with basketball, and they were rooting against Angel Reese for
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reasons that had nothing to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Do with basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But I am sympathetic to Caitlin Clark because as far
as I can see for the most part, she's just
going out there in balling and balling out playing very well.
But this is just something which I think highlights the
problem I think we have in society where if we
like the person, we expect them to view the world
as we do, and if they don't view the world
as we do, then we must dislike that person. And
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also you have those people who think that well, you
should just shut up and dribble, you should just shut
up and play basketball. No, they are people with fully
formed personalities and views of the world, and.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They also played basketball. And see. The thing is what
I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You're going to be mad at Caitlin Clark for liking
a post and tell her to shut up and dribble,
But then you don't have a problem with Kid Rock
or Hulk Hogan. I mean, it's entertainments of a different kind.
I mean, the hypocrisy is very, very self evident.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I feel like people think that their views are okay.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
You're putting your ideology onto someone and you've never even
had a conversation with this person face to face.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's the weird part to me.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
This person has been calculated and not saying anything, So
you you look crazy, assuming that they think like you
think when they've never said anything of the sort.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well not only well, now, not only do you look crazy.
I think the optics of Caitlin Clark not being African American,
coming from Iowa University of Iowa, and also playing the
game at such a high level and having this worldwide acclaim,
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I think it made it very easy for people to
buy in that into that misconception.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And that's on them, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
When we talked about Caitlin Clark, we were just talking
about whether she could ball, whether she couldn't ball, and
the understanding that there was going to be and there
has been this adjustment period.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
People put this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
On top of her, that she was somehow something that
she was not.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think the lesson here is and not that people
are going to learn it. The lesson here is, these
folks just played basketball. You don't know necessarily what they believe,
what they want to believe or not. She said that
she was the swiftie. She didn't say anything else about
what she supposedly liked or not. So you know, if
you put your hand in and you got burned, that's
on you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, and the thing is that this is such a
weird time to all of a sudden be on her
back because she liked the post. Because what I think people,
if they were real fans, what they'd be applauding right
now is the lack of chemistry the Indiana Fever had
when she joined the team. And now you would think
that they're having sleepovers every night because they are gelling
so well, They're all playing their role so well.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
She is one of the leaders in that.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think she recognized that people were just kind of
figuring out what she was going to do, and she's
been the caveat and saying no, we are a team.
There are so many things that you could be applauding
her as far as her the evolution of her game
in a very short period of time.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Who cares what she liked?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, the problem is these aren't actual basketball fans. These
are not actual WNBA fans. To your point, they should
be ecstatic about how the Fever is doing. They should
be extatic about how the league is doing. They should
be ecstatic about what Caitlin Clark has been bringing to basketball.
More broadly, the broadening of the conversations as far as
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where we're talking about the WNBA. But instead these same
fans again air quotes, because I don't believe they were
ever fans were more concerned about her liking a post
of Taylor Swift when she is a confirmed swiftye and
they say, keep politics out of my sports. Well, she's
liking Taylor's Swift. She is not making a public statement
(08:03):
about I am endorsing Kamala Harris. If she did that,
I would be more inclined to say, Okay, now she's
bringing her politics into sport.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
She's liking a post by Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I tell people all the time politics affect people. Newsflash,
basketball players or people.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
They're gonna have a very uncomfortable few months, That's all
I know. Because you get this to yourselves, you're making
yourselves angry. She didn't betray you, You just didn't ask
her the right question.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's later with both Kelly can't b I am Sex
forty were live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and when
we come back, I heard that measles had been eradicated.
In fact, I know it was eradicated as of the
year two thousand. We'll talk about that later in the show,
but Also, did you hear about the college football game
which was canceled over the weekend due to a whooping
cough exposure. Someone told me it was twenty twenty four,
(08:56):
but I guess they lie.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
With kf I mo' kelly Live.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, we're continuing to go beyond
the box score, and let's talk about this college football.
Portland State canceled its Week three meeting with South Dakota
because of an outbreak of whooping cough within the football program.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I didn't know that whooping cough was still a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But if you combine that with vaccine deniers, if you
combine that with vaccine hesitancy as they call it, or skepticism,
yeah it makes sense. Polio's made a comeback, measles is
made a comeback.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Now whooping cough has made a comeback. Why, Jackie Ray,
Why I'm.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
So confused by this because unless times have changed. When
I was a kid, you could be a vacine denyer
all you wanted, but if you were going to play sports,
you had to be vaccinated against everything.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So when I saw this, I was like, I have
times changed?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
How in the world did this happen unless whooping cough
got stronger.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I think there are a number of answers, real answers. One.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I believe the rise in homeschooling has allowed children to
circumnavigate certain vaccine requirements. Two, I believe school districts in
certain states have pulled away and pulled back from vaccine requirements.
And this is how we end up here. We have
to deal with these thought to be eradicated diseases that
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we have vaccines that have been around for decades, but
we're letting our politics get in a way of our
good sense. Now here's how I think we can turn
the tide. Bad things, unfortunately going to have to happen,
like this game getting canceled. I think people are going
to have to see the real world consequences of lack
of vaccination of children young adults. They have to lose
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football games, they may even have to lose lives. You
can't have stadiums canceling football games. That's loss of millions
of dollars of revenue. You know that's going to change
all of this eventually.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, I've said that a lot for a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I've said when people have trepidation about vaccines. Don't get
me wrong, When you really look into our big pharma system,
I get any kind of trepidation. But when you also
look at the stuff we were dying from before that
we're not dying from now, I think there should be
like some sort of and this is just my two cents,
take it or leave it. I do think that sometimes
they push too many vaccines into us at once. Maybe
(11:38):
space it out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So say that again, Say that again, because there is
nuance in this conversation.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Say that again.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think they push a lot of vaccines into us
at one time.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think spread that out a little.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Bit, give your body a little bit of space to
make sure it handles everything right. But I still think
there's conversations because like it or not, there's things that
we should not be dying from. There's things that should
not cause an outbreak on an entire team.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Whooping cough is one of them. And on top of that,
I think.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
That if you are, for whatever reason, if you are
one of the reasons why these these diseases and these
things that should be gone are making a comeback, there
should be consequences. So personally, I think that it's Portland
that got the whooping cough, right, So Portland should have
to pay at least for the chartered flights and things
(12:28):
of that nature because the other school had to pay
for all that, and because you didn't do your due diligence,
now we're out of money.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right right, And there's no clarity on whether the game
is going to be rescheduled.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That may be just done and gone. But I think
that is an answer to it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You know the team which is responsible for the outbreak,
because hip hop will never know who or why or exactly,
but we know what team or program is responsible, and
that university should be held responsible for the lost revenue
because football, regardless of whether it's Division one, Division two,
big money, big money, and a lot of these games
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are still televised.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Locally m hm, and fans plan around that.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Fans who might have had to work that day took
the day off so they could go see their favorite team.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And now you got whooping cough.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's funny, but it's not funny because yes, you do
have to take these precautions. But Portland also could have
They could have been more diligent in saying, hey, there's
one person on our team that has this disease that
shouldn't be around.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We have to cancel this game.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
That's immediate. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, that's the real question because when you say outbreak,
it's like, was there one and did you not report
it thinking that it might be okay and then it
became out of control because you tried to hide it
or was it something else?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, that's the thing that I think we won't ever know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But big picture, when we talk about vaccine hesitancy and skepticism,
I think the only way we'll get back to where
we were saying nothing of the COVID vaccines, right and
messenger RNA okay, saying nothing. That the only way we
can get back to where we were, unfortunately, is that
people understand the consequences of what we're not doing right now,
(14:09):
not taking care of business. We will have to lose stuff,
We may have to lose people, we may have to
lose revenue for people to realize, hey, it is not
in our collective best interests to keep going down this path.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
But that's how vaccines were easily distributed before is because
people saw so many people kept dying from it. So
it's easy to say to people if you don't want
to die from this, you have to take this. But
now we've got so many different opinions and we haven't
seen massive death I'm still surprised that the massive deaths
we saw from COVID hasn't struck that chord. But for
whatever reason, people still think it's a strong flu. That's
(14:43):
literally still the narrative around COVID. But once you once
something really does take out massive lives, then I think
people will be more open to protecting not only themselves
but the people around them and their children or elderly
or elderly, I mean, just care about your common man.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Leave it well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We haven't done that for quite some time, so I
don't look. If COVID didn't do it, this ain't gonna
do it. Fact, it's later with bo Kelly can if
I AM six forty We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You're listening too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I remember growing up and I was maybe three or
four years old, and I hated going to the doctor.
Hated because I was really afraid of needles. Hated it
and for whatever reason, when we went to the doctor,
that meant I was getting some sort of shot. Too
young to know what. I just knew that it was
a needle. It was going to go in my arm.
I wasn't gonna like it. It was gonna hurt, and
(15:37):
I thought if I cried enough, then maybe the doctor
would leave me alone. For whatever reason. It never worked,
not once screaming bloody murder. Still had the shot. Now,
what I didn't understand was it was a part of
my just routine vaccination schedule, just so I could go
to school. Because back in the early nineteen seventies it
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was a big deal because of the generation just before
us having to deal with polio and other diseases, found
a way to get a handle on them, you know, vaccinations,
especially when it came to at least the public schools.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Last night, I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Was bumping around the internet and I came across the
CBS News report, and I guess, with maybe confirmation biased
because it was confirming what I thought was happening with
all these new diseases, which are old diseases coming back
like bell bottoms and butterfly collars, that just back everything
old is new again and the things that we had conquered,
(16:39):
so I thought we actually have not conquered or now
they're just unconquered. Because did you know that measles was
considered eradicated in the year two thousand, eradicated all the
stuff we talked about, like homelessness. You know, we can't
eradicate We could eradicate diseases eradicated in two thousand and
(17:02):
now it's back with a vengeance.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Fall is fast approaching, which means flu season and a
probable optic in cases of COVID. Of course, there's a
vaccine for that, but there seems to be an epidemic
of doubt among some Americans. We've asked our doctor John
Lepook for his diagnosis.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Thanks to all those shots in the arm. In the
year two thousand, measles in the United States was declared eliminated.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
The CDC is warning about the rise in measles infections
in the US.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
There have been twenty but.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
Now it's coming back, with measles cases reported from California
to Vermont. And now that's what I was saying, a
big reason across the country. In twenty twenty three, more
families exempted their children from routine immunizations than ever before.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
There's never been a better time in human history to
tackle an infectious disease than today. There's so many things
we can do, from vaccines to antivirals, anbiotics, and yet
I am dumbfounded by the volume of anti vaxed voices.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Doctor Howard Markel is a medical historian retired from the
University of Michigan. He's also an author and pediatrician.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Check this out how history seemingly keeps repeating itself.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
We've been here before, doctor Markel says.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Vaccine hesitancy is as old as the United States. In
the seventeen hundreds, when smallpox was ravaging the colonies, some
people were given an early form of viminization called variolation.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
You went to a doctor who had this infectious material,
dry puffs and detritus of smallpox scars and so on,
and then they would cut you open, make a slice
of your arm and inoculate put it in your arm.
And half of the people got really sick and some
of them died. So it cost a lot and it
(19:01):
was dangerous, but the people who recovered they were right immune.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Benjamin Franklin decided it was too dangerous for his sickly
four year old son, Frankie.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
One of Franklin's Wait. Wait, Benjamin Franklin's son was named Frankie.
He was Frankie Franklin little egoistical? Huh did I hear
that right?
Speaker 10 (19:20):
Benjamin Franklin decided it was too dangerous for his sickly
four year old son, Frankie yep.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
One of Franklin's great regrets was that he did not
get his son inoculated, instilled with smallpox virus to prevent
what ultimately killed him.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
He went to his grave regretting that absolutely. In the
eighteen hundreds, as a much safer smallpox vaccine was developed,
many cities and states started requiring smallpox vaccination. At the
University of California at Berkeley in nineteen oh two, it
was mandatory. What was the reaction here at Berkeley about
(19:56):
a century ago when students were forced to get vaccinated
against small.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
They were up in arms about it, and people in
town shared them on.
Speaker 10 (20:05):
Professor Elena Konis is a medical historian at UC Berkeley.
In nineteen oh five, the Supreme Court ruled the government
has the authority to require vaccination.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Weoll imagine that today how that would go over? Wow.
Speaker 12 (20:20):
This importantly had the effect of energizing a lot of
anti vaccine groups, and the anti vaccine groups at the
time believe that they were defenders of individual liberty.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
But by the nineteen fifties, there was one thing that
united Americans their fear of polio.
Speaker 13 (20:38):
The three year statistics run fifty thousand polio cases, one
hundred and three thousand cases, one hundred and twenty two
thousand cases, where one of them the.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Idea that your child would be paralyzed or worse condemned
to an iron lung, this giant tank where your head
sticking out and that's how you breathe for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That terrified people.
Speaker 13 (21:00):
And historic victory over a dread disease dramatically.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
When doctor Jonas Sauk invented the polio vaccine, he was
considered a hero.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And the entire world Harold did the discovery, which a
short an m or one of mankind's most bread diseases.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Here's the thing about polio. There are a lot of
people still living today who suffered from polio. It's not
like smallpox, where we don't have a personal reference point.
Smallpox is probably pretty abstract. It's not like you can say, oh, yeah,
dad has smallpox. No but there are a lot of
(21:36):
people who say, yes, I had polio, or my mother
or grandparent had polio, people that you've met and coexisted
with in this life. But now it's like polio's backs like, nah,
no big deal. Weasels back, Nah, no big deal. We
don't need to worry about it. I don't trust big pharma.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I get it. I get it. I understand why you
don't trust big pharma.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I just don't understand why people don't love their fellow brother,
their fellow American more.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
And that's more rhetorical than anything.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, we could do something about measles and polio
and all these other infectious diseases because they've already invented
vaccines that have been tested the world over for decades
and decades. I mean, it's not like this stuff ain't hard.
We just have to have some common sense. But you know,
as they say, common sense at all that common.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Kf I AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And before we
get to your weekly horoscope, I want to remind you
that it's Halloween time at the Disneyland Resort. I had
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I'm just putting it out there just in case you
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time time in the near future.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Let's get to the horoscope, and here is your weekly
horoscope for this week. Have deep conversations with partner, and
it's a good time for career zodiacs.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Now, let's start off with Aries.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
This week gives you Aries a lot of energy and
enthusiasm at work. You could be in charge of big
projects or step out in brave new ways. But be
careful about what you say because rash words could lead
to misunderstandings. When it comes to relationships, Patience is key
to keeping the peace. Man's that's just about for everybody,
(24:40):
ye know, that's just for areas.
Speaker 14 (24:42):
That's how you know these things are accurate. My goodness,
you'll see the difference. Keep going, misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let me tell you, Taurus, this week's stability and safety
are important, especially when it comes to money. If you
look around, you might find new ways to make more money.
When you're in love. Now is the time to strengthen
your feelings without being too possessive. Take care of yourself first.
To handle the week's demands. See different Okay, we'll see Gemini,
(25:11):
Mark Ronner. You Mark Ronner will be more creative and
interested in learning new things. With new ideas and teamwork,
things are likely to get more exciting. Personal relationships will
get stronger if you spend time with other people and
have deep conversations. Mark make time to rest for your
mental health.
Speaker 14 (25:32):
Sound advice. Nobody else could have given me that advice.
I really appreciate the specificity. You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Thank you cancer.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
This week, your feelings might be stronger, which could make
you more aware of what's going on around you. Your
nurturing side is strong right now, so now it's a
great time to spend time with family and friends. When
it comes to your career, finish up tasks that you've
been putting off before taking on new ones. Leo, this week,
you'll do great at work and in social situations. People
(26:03):
will respect your leadership skills and you might you just
might get credit for your hard work, But don't put
too much pressure on yourself. If you are in love,
having a heart to heart talk could make your relationship
even stronger.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Only for Leos.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes, okay, Virgo, you are very good at analyzing things
this week, which makes it a great time to set
your thoughts and tasks in order. You can be successful
at work if you pay attention to the little things.
Take a more practical approach to any problems that are
still going on in your relationships. Don't think too much,
just trust the process.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Elma, you're a Libra. Correct. Okay, that's a thumbs up.
I have to translate to the audience, right, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
In other words, if I don't acknowledge your thumbs up,
people just think you're just ignoring me.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
I'm not nuver.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, you can see me, but they can't see me.
I can see you, but they can't see you or
your thumb.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm starting to understand the radio not so much of
visual medium.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It turns out I love it, Libra Elmer this week, Elmer.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Balance is the word. You will have to work.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You will have to balance work, relationships and your own goals.
Set priorities for what matters to keep from getting too
busy when it comes to love. Being honest with each
other will help clear up any confusion. Well yeah, of course, Okay,
Lies or not going.
Speaker 14 (27:30):
To know, especially crafted for lovel right.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Just don't tell the truth. The truth is never the
best option. The cover up is only worse than the
crime is. If you get caught, Spare the other person.
Spare them what a horoscope?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Downers? Are you?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Oh? I left the horoscope. I was just giving him
some sage advice. The horoscope says, keep your feet on
the ground and be mindful.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
No, f that you know, do what you need to
do to make it through the knife safely.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, And telling your woman about all the stuff that
you've been doing is not ever going to bring peace
in your relationship.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Don't let her go through your phone. Well that's me
all this elm.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Trust your horoscope, okay, all right, Tawallas scorpio, Trust your
horror scope. This week could bring strong feelings and big insights.
You might want to think about yourself and grow as
a person.
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Did you hear Taula how he emphasized the first syllable
of horoscope.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I did. I did. That was intentional. He didn't
catch us sick. Sick.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
When it comes to your career, stay away from power
struggles and office politics.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now, that is true.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Being open and honest can help you build stronger relationships
with people you like, but don't keep too many things
from them.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
What's what this? Honesty and olden than this?
Speaker 12 (28:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is right on time for me. I needed this?
Thank you? All right? Sagittarius, This is me.
Speaker 12 (28:51):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You might want to see more of the world, whether
that means traveling or reading. Well, yes, that's true. When
it comes to your career. Now is the time to
take calculated risks, but not make hasty choices. Okay, I'm quitting,
I'm leaving KFI. This is not what this is well,
I know, but the audience. But that would be hasty. Okay,
(29:12):
all right, and don't be hasty.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Your partner, as in my wife, will be inspired by
your desire to try new things. Hey, I'm gonna get
it to do that thing now, careful, well, I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know, you never know until you ask. Alcohol helps
hurt me.
Speaker 14 (29:31):
Finally, right on time, me actually give it to the
third party.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Ooh, you had to make it weird. You had to
make it weird. Oh man.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Your partner will be inspired by your desire to try
new things, but don't forget to think about what they
need to do.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
You damn right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
There's some things that never Okay, Capricorn. This week, your
hard work and determination will pay off, especially in your career.
You'll probably beat praise for your work. It's important to
be patient and not let small disagreements get worse in
personal relationships. When it comes to money, you may need
to plan carefully. Aquarius. This week, you might really want
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to be free and try new things. Right now is
a great time to think outside the box, especially at work.
In relationships, it's important to stay your own person while
being in a partnership. When you talk to people you
care about, keep an opened mind, whatever that means, Pisces.
This week, you should focus on healing your emotions and
(30:35):
thinking about yourself.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
In other words, to be selfish.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Your intuition will be stronger, which will help you make
smart choices in both your personal and professional life. Instead
of trying to escape problems, you should face them head on.
When it comes to love, being kind will bring harmony.
Here here sounded like here if you say so, yeah,
here the crowd is. I think it's better to keep
(30:59):
things way because you know, don't tell the truth, hide
the truth.
Speaker 14 (31:04):
I at all not allow yourself to be led astray
by not following your horoscope.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
This week.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
My horoscope said to try new things. I'm saying don't
be led astray. So in other words, don't try new things.
Speaker 14 (31:18):
No, I'm saying, do what you need to do follow this,
but don't be all crazy with it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It is it said to try new things, but so
be hasty. So okay, then I will very slowly and
calmly go to my wife and make an indecent proposal.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
We sure to report back on that. By the way,
we're gonna need to hear the ending.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, I'm not Robert Redford and I don't have a
million dollars, so I think we'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
In fact, you're both correct, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Look, we talked about Robert Redford because last week I
told Mark, hey, you need to see this Robert Redford movie,
Sneakers Robert Redford see and he said he didn't care
for it. He tried to rip it to shreds and
he just reaffirmed he doesn't know anything about movies.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
That's what it really comes down to.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's Robert Redford, Sydney Portier, dan Ackroyd good River, Phoenix,
Mary McDonald.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You want to get into this, I'll get into it.
But no, no, no, we have to go to break Lucky.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I oh, oh, are you in a rush number? That's
I want to go. You're just gonna cut me off. No,
we're gonna wait extra ten seconds now, Damn that thousand
and one.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Make sure you're all the way finished. Okay, all right,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. We're not here to
make up your mind. We're here to give you the latest.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
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Speaker 4 (32:52):
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