July 22, 2025 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on NBA Hall-Of-Famer Erving ‘Magic’ Johnson becoming the target of cruel, tasteless commentary AND Shannon Sharpe rape accuser Gabriella Zuniga announcing her retirement from OnlyFans after settling her lawsuit against Sharpe…PLUS – A look at the “real reason” the President is demanding the Washington Commanders and the Cleveland Guardians revert back to their previous, “offensive” names AND your weekly horoscope with the ice cream flavor that best represents you based on zodiac sign - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Sorry, hey, y'all, I got him into some stuff k
IF I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We just had some misunderstandings in the studio during the break.
I want to know what happened because I know you don't. No,
you don't. I'll just I'll just say this so people
know that I'm not making this stuff. I'm not going
to tell the whole story. Jackie, Jackie Ray when she
came over to Chateau Lemo brought a male friend, a
friend friend friend, and during the break, Jackie was telling
(00:35):
us good Evening, Jackie Ray, good Evening, why they're not
more than friends and and got to be very It
was a heartfelt story and then it turned dark.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But I did not turn it there she's there. No,
I just told you how he was going to move on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're just gonna move on because I can't talk about
what you said. It's it's rated X and I don't
feel comfortable toime. We're gonna get ready to catch a
human resources case up in here, though. We're just going
to talk about sports in the Intersection with Society. Magic
Johnson is my favorite Laker of all time, bar none,
It's not close. I think he is one of the
(01:15):
most transformational players in the history of the NBA, even
more so than Larry Bird, even though they're put together.
I know that's the biased comment because I'm a Laker fan,
but I don't have time for all that. In other words,
any type of Magic Johnson's slander, I have a problem, right,
so I'm super sensitive to that. But I've noticed lately
he's been catching strays, as they say, and he's not
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even in the public discourse. People just keep want to
insert himself. Part of it is because Bleacher Report had
a list of the top one hundred players of all
time NBA players, and Magic on the list was number four.
The new generation thinks us too high. The older generation
thinks is just right. But he's been a topic of
conversation Jeff Tigue on his five twenty podcast and Jeff
(02:00):
in the League for maybe I don't know, seven eight
years or so. He's a guard. He and his co
hosts engaged, and I would thought was very disrespectful. Magic
Johnson's slander. I want you to hear it and then
tell me what you think and see if I'm being
too sensitive for being upset about it. Okay, Magic Doohnson
(02:23):
survived HIV and his son that's crazy. His son is
out and gay and feminine projecting. Okay, I wouldn't say
he's trans, but everything he wears is feminine and as
far as I know, EJ goes by he So I
(02:44):
don't think he's trans. But it seems like if you're
going to discuss the top players in the NBA of
all time, I don't see how either his HIV status
or his son being gay is relevant to the conversation.
I thought it was just an unnecessary shot both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I first of all, I was an attempt at
bad humor. The HIV thing, if he would have presented
it as a more an educated statement wouldn't have bothered me,
because at the time in Magic Johnson was diagnosed with HIV,
it was a huge thing. It was terrifying to the
entire world. There wasn't enough education about it. People were
ostracized if they had it education. So he really was
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the catalyst of really not only educating the world, but
specifically the black community because there was a level of yeah,
and we were like, that is that is a gay disease.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We're going to get more into that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, So he he really was the pivotal moment again
not only for the Black community, but for the world
and really educating themselves, finding out how it was transmitted
and ending the stigmatism for those who did have it
because he kind of proved I don't want to say
kind of he did. He did prove that if you
get proper treatment, this is something you could potentially live with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And part of that education, let me be explicit, I
think it needs to be said. In an African American community,
we were largely of the opinion that only gave people God, correct,
And so when Magic Johnson came out and said I
am HIV positive, it turned all that upside down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then for him to leave the league for a
while and then come back. So when him saying, oh,
he survived HIV, because again at the time when he
was diagnosed, it was a level of stigmatism, so him, yeah, exactly,
So he definitely survived that in a way where it
you know, he came back, and he came back in
a big way, and he now he really is Magic Johnson.
So that comment, if it had been phrased with a
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level of intellect wouldn't have bothered me, But phrasing it
as a joke, I can see why that's offensive. At
the same token, you know, Jeff t he comes from
that same time where you kind of look at Magic
and he's a man's man, and so having a son
that isn't a man's man. When you have a perception
about a certain now that has nothing to do with magic,
let me be clear about that.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
This is your perception, this is what you think.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And so in your mind, he survived HIV at a
time when it was very stigmatized and a son who
is female presenting.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But you say, what would you say survived is if
it's on the same level to be put to be
juxtaposed with which HIV. Now, if you know the history
of Magic Johnson, his father was really really hard on him.
And I'll never know what the relationship was between Magic's
father and his grandson e J because I know that
had to have been a very difficult, very relationship. I
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know he's passed on, but I don't know when he
was alive. So I think that would have been the
smarter conversation. Now, maybe I'm just expecting too much. I
thought we were past some of those homophobic jokes. Oh no,
I don't think we'll ever get past those kinds of things.
If Jeff Tigat said, look, it's amazing to me that
at the time Magic got was diagnosed with HIV that
he was able to salvage his career in any way,
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I don't think he would have had a problem with
that statement, because again that's based in the time and
what it was. The son comment, I understand where he's
getting at because he's coming from a very slightly homophobic
and very man's kind of way. You just gotta leave survived, Yeah,
you just you just what he's saying is like, oh,
when you're viewed in a certain way, when you're viewed
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as this manly man, and then you have this son
who's the exact opposite of that, and you can still
have him in pictures and you can still have him
on the red carpet with you and the people that
he thought. He loves his But I take issue with
the words survived because he loves his son as he should,
survive as he should.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But in Jeff Tigue's mind, it's not necessarily magic the
person surviving it. It's magic his image surviving it, but
he wasn't educated enough to articulate it that way. And
the reason why he wasn't educated enough is because a
father loving his son is never something you need to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay. Now, because of that quote unquote controversy, there were
some remarks by comedian Marlon Wayans who made these remarks
and I'm getting ready to play about ten months ago
with his city Now with Shaquille O'Neil on Shaquille's podcast.
It speaks to the rapid home with phobia. But with
Marlon Wayans, doesn't he have a trans.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah try and has very been very open and very
proud about that. So I haven't heard this. I'm a
little I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Glad you're hearing this for the first time. This is
comedian Marlon Wayans ten months ago. It's now recirculating because
of those remarks that I just played. This is Marlon
Wayans with Shaquille O'Neal. That's why I don't do the
same jokes and stand up right, I retire the material.
I do something brand new. So you good, I got
my chat joke in you a magic got good? That's
what you said about magic? You could give me to
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say that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I just said he had the good aides, and I said,
what age you get where you lived fifty years?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I want those aids. He's become a billionaire with aides.
Give me those aids. What kind of aids is this
financial aids?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
This goes back to ignorance because Maggie Johnson's never had AIDS.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't find humor that. And I'm not someone
who's saw uptight that you can't find the things that
you just can't talk about. I just I just don't
think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not funny. HIV and AIDS are two totally different things.
He didn't survive ADS, he is living with HIV. There's
a difference. I had not heard. I'm shocked and bewildered, right,
because that's not even a good joke, And especially when
you have one of the reasons why we are so
educated now and about HIV is because of.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The gay camp. Not any but not everyone is educated.
But clearly I do remember Magic Johnson going all around
the world as part of the White House Council and
about the something something some HIV education task Force. Yeah,
and I thought we were passed that. That's in twenty
twenty four. This joke was said in twenty twenty two ago.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh dear, I don't have I know, I really got
a good one for Jeff. I got nothing from Marlin
except for he's he should probably retire from comedy if
that's the best that you can do is produce an
uneducated joke.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I thought Marlon Wayans was better and smarter than that.
I thought wrong, Clearly I did too.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I thought he I thought he was one of those
comedians because you can take even sadness. Sometimes we've seen
comedians take tragedy and turn it into something.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That candy laugh plus time.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, tragedy plus time, And if you have an educated joke,
you know he could have. I've heard comedians say, you know,
I want to have enough money where I can be
like magic, and if I do get sick, I can
afford all the best doctors. Because right now, you know,
I've heard jokes like that, it's more about the money
he has versus the disease that he has, right, And
so I've heard jokes like that, But this was just
in poor taste and the fact that I didn't even
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hear it when it was said the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The only reason I found is because people say, like, oh,
if you heard this, you should have heard what Marlon
Wayans said. I said, golle.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He catching all the strays, all necessary.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And Magic Johnson has been, I would say, the beacon
of the perfect example of how you should represent yourself
and be an upstanding member of the community.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, he is part owner if you guys don't know
of the La Sparks. And so I've had an opportunity
to meet him a couple of times. His smile lights
up a room. He never turns down a hug. He's
will away to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, how are you always? When when I met him
in Rosco's chinga waffles for some reason, he took a
liking to me and said, how are you young man? Yes,
that's the way he is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And I saw him because I've seen him at basically
at the start of every season, and I'm like magic
and he goes, I don't remember your name, young lady,
but I remember your face and gave me a hug.
He is just the nicest man. He doesn't deserve to
be catching these random strays.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. We
told you about the Shannon Sharp lawsuit. He was being
sued from like fifty million dollars from a former girlfriend
one third his age who's an OnlyFans model, and you know,
it basically ruined a lot of his career. We don't
know to what degree even yet, because he was let
go from ESPN as far as we know, has been back.
(10:59):
We don't know what his future is going to be
beyond this podcast. Well, we know that the suit was settled,
and we have an announcement on the other side about
that lawsuit. Let's go. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're
going beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray and no,
I'm not going to tell you what she said off
air about our personal life. It's X rated and it's
gonna get us fired. And Jacku Ray, not me. Jackie Ray,
(11:22):
I thought better of you now and I'm gonna beat
you differently. You gotta say the other part six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (11:33):
Kf I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. I
gotta tell you sometimes I don't understand. I just not
that I know everything sometings I just don't understand Shannon Sharp,
public figure. I don't understand why he would involve himself.
(11:53):
Yes he's a single man, but I don't know why
he would involve himself at as a fifty six year
old man with like a twenty year old woman or
how old sheese, she's just the side of teenager. I
don't understand it. And from both sides, both accounts it
was a relationship of some amount of time. There was
(12:14):
an allegation of forcible rape made by this woman who
originally was a Jane Doe. Just recounting the story, Shannon
Sharp took it upon himself to out her by name
Gabriella Zuniga, and also published text messages that they had
exchanged to somehow stave off her lawsuit that go as
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well as he planned. As it turned out, it was
announced of the weekend that they reached some sort of
settlement and the lawsuit was thrown out with prejuice. It
cannot be filed again, So it's a done deal. And
if you were wondering if there was a settlement, yes,
there was a settlement, because Gabriella Zuniga said as much.
On social media and then also made the announcement get this,
(12:59):
she is quote retiring unquote from Only Fans. Getting back
to what I don't understand. How does someone retire from
a site where you just post pictures, usually of yourself
in scantily clad or sexually compromised positions or straight up nudity.
(13:20):
From what I understand, I don't know for it, she
just stops logging on. But how can you retire that?
That means like you have a job. You know, I
can understand if you said I'm retiring from being a
sex worker. That's the actual job, okay, But when you're
on OnlyFans, you don't punch a clock, you don't get
the benefits. No one's giving you a check for services rendered.
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You're just posting pictures. And if people want to buy
your subscription then you know you get a percentage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But retire I think it would have been better because
basically what she's saying is, hey, I met this goal.
You know I because I think when you go on
to Onlyfan, your into a very specific demographic who will
pay for sexual favors of some sort, in this case,
digital favors digital figures.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So this is what she is used to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the Shannon Sharp situation, I think I guess to
her discredit, that's probably what shot her in the foot
a little bit there too, because people are saying, hey,
you know, this is kind of what you do. You
can't really go now. I'm not saying that once a
woman says yes, she can never say no. That's not
what I'm saying. But I am saying the optics for
her looked bad. So what she's saying is, hey, you know,
I got on only fans for a very specific reason.
(14:32):
I was wanting to make money from off of men.
I no longer have to do that because I got
my cash cow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, So I'm thinking she had to have gotten eight figures.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, she didn't get she didn't get the fifty million,
but she probably got.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
At least five. I think she got eight figures. I
think she got at least ten. I think she got ten. Yeah,
because when she makes announcements she's retiring from only fans.
Five million is not enough, right, I'm saying she got
at least ten.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she got all of Shannon's Kat Williams money because
he keep selling that he made a whole bunch of
money off of that, so she got a lot of
kat William's money.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think of it this way, and I learned this
from just following the Bill Cosby saga. A lot of
these high profile individuals, especially who are unmarried or potential targets,
they have extensive insurance policies to pay out the This
is not coming out of Shannon Sharp's pocket, gotcha. Yeah,
So if he paid let's say, fifteen to twenty million,
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it's not coming out of his pocket. He's probably not
insurable going forward, but it's not coming out of his pocket,
So he would be more inclined to settle as opposed
to a long protracted court battle discovery all the text
messages and pictures and laisons and possibly other women coming forward.
If Shannon Sharp did anything right with respect to Diddy,
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is he paid the accuser off early, as opposed to
waiting years and having it it blow up in his
face in the way that Diddy did he waited to
pay off Cassie. If he paid off Cassie earlier, sooner
you heard about it, and no one else would have
come forward, and her lawsuit would have never happened. Honestly,
you know the other lawsuits definitely would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think that what I find the most perplexing about
this entire situation is you have men in power that
consistently go for younger women who are just normal women
that are probably in this situation to try to take
advantage of a cash cow, when there are literally women
who do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
There are things well this They say, you don't pay
a woman, you pay her to leave. Fact, there are
things that I can think are true of most men.
And I'm not going to ask Twala or Daniel or Mark.
They're just going to silently agree with me. Part of
the reason why you have men of power or wealth
going after these young women is about control. Part of
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the reason why they're attracted to him is because the
woman needs the money from the man and is willing
to enter into this relationship with this man because of
his power, his wealth, his fame and can do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But doesn't a sex worker provide at least the illusion
of that she still needs your money. She's still going
to try to please you as best that she can
and give you another. Professionals at that point, they can
give you an illusion of power, but.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You don't control that person. In the way of let's say,
if Shannon Sharp is paying for her rent, is paid
her carnal, helped her parents with you know, building a
new deck at their house, whatever, all that has happened.
In many instances, there's a degree of control because if
you looked at the text messages and the lawsuit, it
was about control, doing this, not doing this, go here,
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can't go there, right, It's all about control. And you
don't have that over a quote unquote sex worker who
you're paying to leave. You're just paying for the physical act.
There was a degree of interaction beyond that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So what you're saying is instead of he should just
pay for therapy.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Among other things, that's what he's going as far as paying.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Because when you reach and I've heard that before, people say, oh,
it's about power, it's about power, But you've already reached
a point of power. And if you need a young
basically child at this point, because I believe he has
a daughter around the same age around about like that's
if something doesn't happen in your mind that says, this
is the same age as my daughter. I need to
have power over someone that could literally be my child.
(18:13):
There's something psychologically wrong with you. You need to talk
to somebody about that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, there is a psychological misfire here, and I can't
diagnose him from a distance. I'm not a doctor, but
I know that if you're fifty six and you want
to enter into a relationship, We're not even talking about
a sex worker relationship. We're talking about a bona fide
relationship where you go out and you go out to dinner,
and you spend time together and that person is borderline
(18:36):
young enough to be your granddaughter. Borderline. Yeah, there's something
not quite right with you. There's something that's emotionally and
I would say mentally deficient. It's not about being of
the age of majority where you can legally do this.
This is not about legally versus illegally. This is about
something that is deficient in you as a man, where
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you think that that poet teenager can provide something that
you need. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I read an article yesterday I forget was one of
the girly magazines that said that women that are typically
walking in their own power versus in their career taking
care of themselves, they are not as attractive to power
for men they do. Powerful men do not like women
who can be like, yeah, no, you can kick rocks.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, they don't like I would agree that because men
of power or fame want to wield that, if you will,
in all forms of their life. So it's not about
an emotional connection, not really. Well, part of that emotional
connection is connected to the powerful or having power over something,
but not love, y'all, not love, Jackie Ray, We're getting
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ready to take it to the hallway because people want
us to talk about this explicitly in the hallway. So Daniel,
we're taking it to the hallway. We're taking it to
the hall Yes. Can I tell people really quick? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know I'm doing a news show every Monday, Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday on TikTok now ten thirty eight am
to twelve thirty pm. So make sure you tap in
with me at Jackie Bay TV.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (20:14):
Kelly six Live everywhere, on the iHeartRadio app, live on YouTube.
They're still in the hallway on YouTube. I tell you, yeah,
it got kind of blue in the hallway talking about
all things inappropriate on the air. But let me say this,
if you are a news connoisseur like I am. You're
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following the news all the time. There's a rhythm to it,
and anyone who is savvy about news knows that controlling
the news cycle, controlling what is being discussed, is very important.
It's exceptionally important to politicians. In other words, if you
happen to be an elected official and you release you
have to release bad news. You're going to do it
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on a Friday, hopefully closer to five o'clock so it
won't get as much news coverage. And this is something
which is done regardless of political stripes. You always want
to control the news cycle, but it's our job to
recognize when it's being done. What was the biggest story
in the world, at least US news last week? It
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was Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Barnett And there was
also the lawsuit donald Trump suing the Wall Street Journal.
That was the biggest story. If and when Donald Trump
is going to release the Epstein files, and then you
realize it was not going in the way of the
Trump administration. You had Maga asking the question, why are
you not releasing the Epstein files? And it seemed if
(21:41):
you're paying attention at each press gaggle, White House Press Corps,
more and more people were asking about that. So how
do you get them to stop asking about something that
you or your administration doesn't want to talk about. You
changed the subject. You give them something else to talk about.
It could be something that you say is outlandish, or
you just you give them something else to chase. And
(22:02):
this is what President Trump has done. It's clear as day.
And I want to show you how. I know, as
clear as day, no one was talking about the Washington
Commanders anywhere, not even the Washington Commanders were talking about
the Washington Commanders. Why because it's not football season. Nobody
was talking about the Cleveland Guardians. Why because it's Cleveland.
(22:23):
Nobody cares anything about Cleveland. But in the same day,
when the President says and threatens the Commanders to change
their name back to the Washington Redskins, and also the
Cleveland Guardians should change their name back to the Cleveland Indians,
when no one was talking about either, and obviously Donald
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Trump has no role in either. It's about changing the conversation.
And if he's gonna be asked questions in the next
press gathering, they're gonna ask him about what the Washington Commanders.
They're gonna ask him about what the Cleveland Guardians and
the name changes, which really have nothing to do with him,
or they will ask him about how the President is
(23:03):
considering an executive order on NCAA athlete's employment status, meaning
limiting the NIL deals, which we've talked about extensively on
this show. Name it mentioned likeness. Why the president has
any real opinion about how much college athletes make is
beyond me, and it should be beyond you. But if
you put it in the context of what's going on,
(23:25):
you realize, Oh, change the subject. And here's something else
did I glean and I hope you picked up on it. Two,
When the President threatened, and I do mean threatened, threatened
the Washington Commanders to change their team name back to
the Washington Redskins. He did it against the backdrop of
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the threat of withholding federal funds for a new stadium
in Washington, d C. Now, if you really know the story,
he won't be able to do that because a deal
was made with the city of Washington, d C. That
the new stadium would be in the purview of the city,
which means that the Washington Commanders would be dealing with
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the mayor of DC, not any federal jurisdiction, even though
the land is federal in nature. But that's only if
you really know the fullness of the story. But did
you notice he threatened it? The President threatened to withhold
funds if a deal did not go down the way
that he wanted to. Doesn't that sound eerily reminiscent of
(24:33):
the Paramount merger? Doesn't it seem kind of strange that
publicly he threatened the commanders if he didn't get his way,
he was going to withhold money because he has federal
power to intervene and throw a monkey wrench in the process.
How is that any different than possibly threatening to intervene
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and blow up the Paramount Merger if he doesn't get
his way vis a VI Stephen Colbert or the sixteen
million dollars which was paid to him in that lawsuit.
All I'm saying is, look at the evolution of the
news cycle last week. It was everything about Jeffrey Epstein
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and Donald Trump and releasing the files. Oh yeah, I
need release the MLK files today, which nobody was asking for,
not even the family. That's distraction. Okay, so we'll be
asking next week about what's in the MLK files. We'll
be asking about this new Obama conspiracy theory about some
coup and Tulsi Gabbard and overthrowing the government from twenty sixteen,
(25:41):
changing the subject but not changing the content of the conversation.
And the White House Press Corps will probably follow along
and they'll ask about the MLK files which were released today.
They'll ask about the Tulsi Gabbert accusations which were made
against former President Obama. They'll ask about the n C
two A and nil earnings. They'll ask about the Washington
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Commanders and whether they should or should not change their
name back to the Redskins, and whether the president would
hold federal funding. They'll ask about the Cleveland Guardians and
whether they should change their name back to Cleveland Indians.
And nobody was asking about that at all or even
thinking about that last week, changing the conversation because you
don't want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and those files
(26:26):
not being released. It's later with mo Kelly caf I
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Based on your zodiac side. It's time for your horscope.
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as you get older, it was said to me, But
now I know it's true. As I get older, your
tastes change. The things that I I didn't like as
a kid I like as an adult, and vice versa.
When I was a kid, I would only eat chocolate
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ice cream. I did not like the taste of vanilla,
couldn't stand it. Now I love vanilla ice cream, can't
tell you why. And I love cookies and cream, and
I really don't like chocolate ice cream anymore. I cannot
tell you why. I had some chocolate ice cream last
week when we had the Thunderbolts ice cream truck out here.
I was yeah, but but but had I had two bowls.
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I was greedy. One I got the one that had
like this I can't remember the name of but it
had chocolate ice cream and had chocolate and had a swirl. Yes, yes, yeah, okay,
I like that, but it wasn't as good as the
one had vanilla. I'm just my taste of change. So
when I read this to you about what ice cream
flavor are you based on your zodiac sign, I'm I'm
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curious to know if something might be in my sign
which has to do with this Twally. You gave me this,
so I want to blame it on you. If it's
not right, well we'll see aries. Damn it, Aries, you
took mine. Cookies and cream. Aries fights to be first,
will battle over the most noble or utterly inane of causes. Likewise,
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cookies and cream are a flavor embroiled in controversy. That's
grammatically incorrect. Cookies and cream is a flavor embroiled in
controversy and claims of first rights. South Dakota State University
maintains that it invented the flavor in seventy nine, and
Eddie's professional ice cream tester John Harrison claims to have
conceived the combo in nineteen eighty two. Bluebell boldly states
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on this website that they were the first to create
the innovative flavor. So, in terms of legitimately being first
in a blending of fire signs in ice cream, aries
goes way back to the og days of the dessert,
when rich romans would eat honey covered ice source from
the vesuvious volcano. Taurus, your ice cream is butter pekan.
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Taurus makes the second house of excuse me. Taurus rules
the second house of values and possessions, and bulls are
notoriously weak for rich things, not least of all foods
that give them gout and partners that can provide financial
stability cout. I feel attacked. That's dark, I know as
someone who's had a doubt flare up in life. Oh God, there.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Should be an ice cream flavor called gout swirl. No, no,
I wouldn't wish out on anybody suitably.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
The pecan is among the most calorically dense and highly
fattening of all nuts, and butter is well, butter devoted
to decadence. The chorus of Taurus is more and butter
pecan ice cream is just that. Gim and I Mark Spamoni.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Sous freaking no, No, that's the Italian ice cream and
I haven't had any any of that?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Is that a flavor? Mark likes a little spamoni.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
You don't need to make that sound as filthy as
there's no call.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
For that Geminis are terminally indecisive, more than a little nutty,
and statistically speaking, pretty into three sumes.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yeah, what is the straight line between geminis, ice cream
and threesomes?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Here? This seems like a bit of a reach.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
It's a little spum ony making this trifective pistachio, cherry
and chocolate studded with fruits, studded with fruits and nuts utterly.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Apt for this air sign. You make me ill and angry. Yeah, Cancer,
here you go here, Stefan, don't get too far ahead
of yourself. Cookie monster regularly blue, comfort seeking and chop
full of crumbling elements. Cookie Monster, ice cream and cardinal
water sign cancers share some consequential commonalities. Cancer rules the
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fourth house of home and ancestry, and in the broken
poetry of the incorrigible, and they eat your feelings ethos
of the cookie monster himself homeless Where the heart is heart,
where cookie is math clear? Home is cookie? Sounds like
a syllogism. Leo, who's a leo?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Us?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Right? Carnasia is a leo? Your ice cream is mint
chocolate chip. Dang it, that's what I wanted to cook
it a cream? I see see this is wrong winning
sits atop the hierarchy of needs for a leo and
mit chocolate chip was born of competition. I have to
agree this is a nasty ass ice cream. In nineteen
seventy three, British culinary student Marilyn Ricketts conceived of the
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flavor and entered it into a contest to provided ice
cream dessert for Princess Anne, herself a Leo, on the
occasion of her marriage to Captain Mark Phillips. There you go,
calling it the met Royale, Ricketts was crowned the victor
and given a silver cup for ingenuity, and the world
was given a frozen gift. Yeah whatever, So there you go, Passenger,
Princess ice Cream, Royalty mint chocolate chip. Gosh, virgo, yours
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is strawberry. That's boring and a surprise to absolutely no one.
Alfred Krawl, who invented the ice cream School and thereby
improved the daily lives of people everywhere, was a virgo, prudish, puritanical,
and plain punishing. When it comes to their food habits,
Virgos are most akin to strawberry ice cream. This flavor
is healthy enough to be admitted into the temple of
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their bodies. And close enough to the source to qualify
as earthy. Libra, you're vanilla, popular, people pleasing, foundational, if
not fun, and unlikely to start a war or trigger
in allergic reaction. Libra is the vanilla ice cream cone
of the zodiac, the hummus of the potluck party, the
subaru outback of the parking lot. Libra is a sign
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of partnership, and vanilla was the side kicked the chocolate
for centuries until it went solo in France in the
seventeen hundreds. Things really took off from there, and likewise,
Libras hit their stride when they can strike out on
their own and break free of their need to be
all things to all people. Scorpio, here you go, twalla,
let's go Yours is chocolate. That's damn right, Look at me.
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Scorpio is a bowl, all right? Moving on, Sagittarius, that's me. Pistachio.
F oh out of here with that bullshite you would
gets doesn't have a flavor. I don't give a like
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chooses who spends money on pistachio ice cream Sadges, not me,
Feisty Sadges with.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Their nutty, nasty ice cream.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Capricorn Your Rocky Road. Invented joined the Great Depression and
named as a nod to the bleak financial situation facing
Americans at the time. This combination of chocolate, marshmallow and
chopped nuts is nasty, but a perfect edible allegory for capricorn.
I put that in most seagoats lived through less than
stillar childhoods easily described as rocky, if not utterly oppressive.
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Yet these people are made to endure, born to build,
and set to see it through. All right, a query,
We're almost done chocolate chip cookie dough. I could have
taken that. I would have taken that one too. Chocolate
chip cookie Dough ice cream was born in nineteen eighty
four at Ben and Jerry's original scoop shop in Burlington, Vermont.
Aquarius rules the eleventh house of friends and community and
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true to form. The inspiration for the flavor came courtesy
of an anonymous fan who left a suggestion tacked to
a feedbackboard. Aquarius is so signed the humanitarian and Ben
and Jerry's has proven itself to be a brand vested
in social justice and environmental initiatives. Chocolate chip cookie Dough
Aquarius and closing us out Pisces. Their ice cream is
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cotton candy, black black. The heartbeat of the average Pisces
is made of cotton candy, water log, stuffed animals, prescription pills,
mixtapes glowing the Dark stars, and polaroids of their first loves.
Since only one of these items has a tangible flavor,
it is cotton candy for the cone and the wind. No,
you're not winning. That sounded like a description of a rave, like, yeah,
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cotton candy, it's a rave in your mouth. It's for kids, definitely. Yeah,
I'd never like cotton candy, not as a kid or
an adult. It's just like, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
So tall is the only one that got They got
chocolate chocolate. I would have taken chocolate chip, cookie dough.
I would have taken cookies and cream. I would have
taken vanilla. I would have taken chocolate strawberry. Right, but pistachio,
the you should get strawberries.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You wanted that. At least you didn't get mint chocolate.
I see, I would have taken that. Look, I'm taking
all that chocolate and older, the grannies, the grandpa what
what granny? Grandpa's okay? Because my grandparents were grandparents in their.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Fifties, like seventies, and uh they like mint chocolate ice cream.
So young.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Laugh, I know laugh, not young enough to date Shannon
Sharp though, right, not that young. Huh, Thank you very much,
gos okay if I am six forty leaves everywhere now
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Sorry, hey, y'all, I got him into some stuff k
IF I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We just had some misunderstandings in the studio during the break.
I want to know what happened because I know you don't. No,
you don't. I'll just I'll just say this so people
know that I'm not making this stuff. I'm not going
to tell the whole story. Jackie, Jackie Ray when she
came over to Chateau Lemo brought a male friend, a
friend friend friend, and during the break, Jackie was telling
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us good Evening, Jackie Ray, good Evening, why they're not
more than friends and and got to be very It
was a heartfelt story and then it turned dark.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But I did not turn it there she's there. No,
I just told you how he was going to move on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're just gonna move on because I can't talk about
what you said. It's it's rated X and I don't
feel comfortable toime. We're gonna get ready to catch a
human resources case up in here, though. We're just going
to talk about sports in the Intersection with Society. Magic
Johnson is my favorite Laker of all time, bar none,
It's not close. I think he is one of the
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most transformational players in the history of the NBA, even
more so than Larry Bird, even though they're put together.
I know that's the biased comment because I'm a Laker fan,
but I don't have time for all that. In other words,
any type of Magic Johnson's slander, I have a problem, right,
so I'm super sensitive to that. But I've noticed lately
he's been catching strays, as they say, and he's not
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even in the public discourse. People just keep want to
insert himself. Part of it is because Bleacher Report had
a list of the top one hundred players of all
time NBA players, and Magic on the list was number four.
The new generation thinks us too high. The older generation
thinks is just right. But he's been a topic of
conversation Jeff Tigue on his five twenty podcast and Jeff
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in the League for maybe I don't know, seven eight
years or so. He's a guard. He and his co
hosts engaged, and I would thought was very disrespectful. Magic
Johnson's slander. I want you to hear it and then
tell me what you think and see if I'm being
too sensitive for being upset about it. Okay, Magic Doohnson
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survived HIV and his son that's crazy. His son is
out and gay and feminine projecting. Okay, I wouldn't say
he's trans, but everything he wears is feminine and as
far as I know, EJ goes by he So I
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don't think he's trans. But it seems like if you're
going to discuss the top players in the NBA of
all time, I don't see how either his HIV status
or his son being gay is relevant to the conversation.
I thought it was just an unnecessary shot both of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I first of all, I was an attempt at
bad humor. The HIV thing, if he would have presented
it as a more an educated statement wouldn't have bothered me,
because at the time in Magic Johnson was diagnosed with HIV,
it was a huge thing. It was terrifying to the
entire world. There wasn't enough education about it. People were
ostracized if they had it education. So he really was
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the catalyst of really not only educating the world, but
specifically the black community because there was a level of yeah,
and we were like, that is that is a gay disease.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We're going to get more into that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, So he he really was the pivotal moment again
not only for the Black community, but for the world
and really educating themselves, finding out how it was transmitted
and ending the stigmatism for those who did have it
because he kind of proved I don't want to say
kind of he did. He did prove that if you
get proper treatment, this is something you could potentially live with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And part of that education, let me be explicit, I
think it needs to be said. In an African American community,
we were largely of the opinion that only gave people God, correct,
And so when Magic Johnson came out and said I
am HIV positive, it turned all that upside down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then for him to leave the league for a
while and then come back. So when him saying, oh,
he survived HIV, because again at the time when he
was diagnosed, it was a level of stigmatism, so him, yeah, exactly,
So he definitely survived that in a way where it
you know, he came back, and he came back in
a big way, and he now he really is Magic Johnson.
So that comment, if it had been phrased with a
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level of intellect wouldn't have bothered me, But phrasing it
as a joke, I can see why that's offensive. At
the same token, you know, Jeff t he comes from
that same time where you kind of look at Magic
and he's a man's man, and so having a son
that isn't a man's man. When you have a perception
about a certain now that has nothing to do with magic,
let me be clear about that.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
This is your perception, this is what you think.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And so in your mind, he survived HIV at a
time when it was very stigmatized and a son who
is female presenting.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
But you say, what would you say survived is if
it's on the same level to be put to be
juxtaposed with which HIV. Now, if you know the history
of Magic Johnson, his father was really really hard on him.
And I'll never know what the relationship was between Magic's
father and his grandson e J because I know that
had to have been a very difficult, very relationship. I
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know he's passed on, but I don't know when he
was alive. So I think that would have been the
smarter conversation. Now, maybe I'm just expecting too much. I
thought we were past some of those homophobic jokes. Oh no,
I don't think we'll ever get past those kinds of things.
If Jeff Tigat said, look, it's amazing to me that
at the time Magic got was diagnosed with HIV that
he was able to salvage his career in any way,
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I don't think he would have had a problem with
that statement, because again that's based in the time and
what it was. The son comment, I understand where he's
getting at because he's coming from a very slightly homophobic
and very man's kind of way. You just gotta leave survived, Yeah,
you just you just what he's saying is like, oh,
when you're viewed in a certain way, when you're viewed
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as this manly man, and then you have this son
who's the exact opposite of that, and you can still
have him in pictures and you can still have him
on the red carpet with you and the people that
he thought. He loves his But I take issue with
the words survived because he loves his son as he should,
survive as he should.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But in Jeff Tigue's mind, it's not necessarily magic the
person surviving it. It's magic his image surviving it, but
he wasn't educated enough to articulate it that way. And
the reason why he wasn't educated enough is because a
father loving his son is never something you need to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Okay. Now, because of that quote unquote controversy, there were
some remarks by comedian Marlon Wayans who made these remarks
and I'm getting ready to play about ten months ago
with his city Now with Shaquille O'Neil on Shaquille's podcast.
It speaks to the rapid home with phobia. But with
Marlon Wayans, doesn't he have a trans.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah try and has very been very open and very
proud about that. So I haven't heard this. I'm a
little I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Glad you're hearing this for the first time. This is
comedian Marlon Wayans ten months ago. It's now recirculating because
of those remarks that I just played. This is Marlon
Wayans with Shaquille O'Neal. That's why I don't do the
same jokes and stand up right, I retire the material.
I do something brand new. So you good, I got
my chat joke in you a magic got good? That's
what you said about magic? You could give me to
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say that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I just said he had the good aides, and I said,
what age you get where you lived fifty years?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I want those aids. He's become a billionaire with aides.
Give me those aids. What kind of aids is this
financial aids?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
This goes back to ignorance because Maggie Johnson's never had AIDS.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't find humor that. And I'm not someone
who's saw uptight that you can't find the things that
you just can't talk about. I just I just don't
think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's not funny. HIV and AIDS are two totally different things.
He didn't survive ADS, he is living with HIV. There's
a difference. I had not heard. I'm shocked and bewildered, right,
because that's not even a good joke, And especially when
you have one of the reasons why we are so
educated now and about HIV is because of.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The gay camp. Not any but not everyone is educated.
But clearly I do remember Magic Johnson going all around
the world as part of the White House Council and
about the something something some HIV education task Force. Yeah,
and I thought we were passed that. That's in twenty
twenty four. This joke was said in twenty twenty two ago.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh dear, I don't have I know, I really got
a good one for Jeff. I got nothing from Marlin
except for he's he should probably retire from comedy if
that's the best that you can do is produce an
uneducated joke.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I thought Marlon Wayans was better and smarter than that.
I thought wrong, Clearly I did too.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I thought he I thought he was one of those
comedians because you can take even sadness. Sometimes we've seen
comedians take tragedy and turn it into something.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That candy laugh plus time.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, tragedy plus time, And if you have an educated joke,
you know he could have. I've heard comedians say, you know,
I want to have enough money where I can be
like magic, and if I do get sick, I can
afford all the best doctors. Because right now, you know,
I've heard jokes like that, it's more about the money
he has versus the disease that he has, right, And
so I've heard jokes like that, But this was just
in poor taste and the fact that I didn't even
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hear it when it was said the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The only reason I found is because people say, like, oh,
if you heard this, you should have heard what Marlon
Wayans said. I said, golle.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He catching all the strays, all necessary.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And Magic Johnson has been, I would say, the beacon
of the perfect example of how you should represent yourself
and be an upstanding member of the community.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, he is part owner if you guys don't know
of the La Sparks. And so I've had an opportunity
to meet him a couple of times. His smile lights
up a room. He never turns down a hug. He's
will away to talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh, how are you always? When when I met him
in Rosco's chinga waffles for some reason, he took a
liking to me and said, how are you young man? Yes,
that's the way he is.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And I saw him because I've seen him at basically
at the start of every season, and I'm like magic
and he goes, I don't remember your name, young lady,
but I remember your face and gave me a hug.
He is just the nicest man. He doesn't deserve to
be catching these random strays.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. We
told you about the Shannon Sharp lawsuit. He was being
sued from like fifty million dollars from a former girlfriend
one third his age who's an OnlyFans model, and you know,
it basically ruined a lot of his career. We don't
know to what degree even yet, because he was let
go from ESPN as far as we know, has been back.
(10:59):
We don't know what his future is going to be
beyond this podcast. Well, we know that the suit was settled,
and we have an announcement on the other side about
that lawsuit. Let's go. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're
going beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray and no,
I'm not going to tell you what she said off
air about our personal life. It's X rated and it's
gonna get us fired. And Jacku Ray, not me. Jackie Ray,
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I thought better of you now and I'm gonna beat
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Kf I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly
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gotta tell you sometimes I don't understand. I just not
that I know everything sometings I just don't understand Shannon Sharp,
public figure. I don't understand why he would involve himself.
(11:53):
Yes he's a single man, but I don't know why
he would involve himself at as a fifty six year
old man with like a twenty year old woman or
how old sheese, she's just the side of teenager. I
don't understand it. And from both sides, both accounts it
was a relationship of some amount of time. There was
(12:14):
an allegation of forcible rape made by this woman who
originally was a Jane Doe. Just recounting the story, Shannon
Sharp took it upon himself to out her by name
Gabriella Zuniga, and also published text messages that they had
exchanged to somehow stave off her lawsuit that go as
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well as he planned. As it turned out, it was
announced of the weekend that they reached some sort of
settlement and the lawsuit was thrown out with prejuice. It
cannot be filed again, So it's a done deal. And
if you were wondering if there was a settlement, yes,
there was a settlement, because Gabriella Zuniga said as much.
On social media and then also made the announcement get this,
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she is quote retiring unquote from Only Fans. Getting back
to what I don't understand. How does someone retire from
a site where you just post pictures, usually of yourself
in scantily clad or sexually compromised positions or straight up nudity.
(13:20):
From what I understand, I don't know for it, she
just stops logging on. But how can you retire that?
That means like you have a job. You know, I
can understand if you said I'm retiring from being a
sex worker. That's the actual job, okay, But when you're
on OnlyFans, you don't punch a clock, you don't get
the benefits. No one's giving you a check for services rendered.
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You're just posting pictures. And if people want to buy
your subscription then you know you get a percentage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But retire I think it would have been better because
basically what she's saying is, hey, I met this goal.
You know I because I think when you go on
to Onlyfan, your into a very specific demographic who will
pay for sexual favors of some sort, in this case,
digital favors digital figures.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So this is what she is used to.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So the Shannon Sharp situation, I think I guess to
her discredit, that's probably what shot her in the foot
a little bit there too, because people are saying, hey,
you know, this is kind of what you do. You
can't really go now. I'm not saying that once a
woman says yes, she can never say no. That's not
what I'm saying. But I am saying the optics for
her looked bad. So what she's saying is, hey, you know,
I got on only fans for a very specific reason.
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I was wanting to make money from off of men.
I no longer have to do that because I got
my cash cow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, So I'm thinking she had to have gotten eight figures.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, she didn't get she didn't get the fifty million,
but she probably got.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
At least five. I think she got eight figures. I
think she got at least ten. I think she got ten. Yeah,
because when she makes announcements she's retiring from only fans.
Five million is not enough, right, I'm saying she got
at least ten.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she got all of Shannon's Kat Williams money because
he keep selling that he made a whole bunch of
money off of that, so she got a lot of
kat William's money.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think of it this way, and I learned this
from just following the Bill Cosby saga. A lot of
these high profile individuals, especially who are unmarried or potential targets,
they have extensive insurance policies to pay out the This
is not coming out of Shannon Sharp's pocket, gotcha. Yeah,
So if he paid let's say, fifteen to twenty million,
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it's not coming out of his pocket. He's probably not
insurable going forward, but it's not coming out of his pocket,
So he would be more inclined to settle as opposed
to a long protracted court battle discovery all the text
messages and pictures and laisons and possibly other women coming forward.
If Shannon Sharp did anything right with respect to Diddy,
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is he paid the accuser off early, as opposed to
waiting years and having it it blow up in his
face in the way that Diddy did he waited to
pay off Cassie. If he paid off Cassie earlier, sooner
you heard about it, and no one else would have
come forward, and her lawsuit would have never happened. Honestly,
you know the other lawsuits definitely would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think that what I find the most perplexing about
this entire situation is you have men in power that
consistently go for younger women who are just normal women
that are probably in this situation to try to take
advantage of a cash cow, when there are literally women
who do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
There are things well this They say, you don't pay
a woman, you pay her to leave. Fact, there are
things that I can think are true of most men.
And I'm not going to ask Twala or Daniel or Mark.
They're just going to silently agree with me. Part of
the reason why you have men of power or wealth
going after these young women is about control. Part of
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the reason why they're attracted to him is because the
woman needs the money from the man and is willing
to enter into this relationship with this man because of
his power, his wealth, his fame and can do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But doesn't a sex worker provide at least the illusion
of that she still needs your money. She's still going
to try to please you as best that she can
and give you another. Professionals at that point, they can
give you an illusion of power, but.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You don't control that person. In the way of let's say,
if Shannon Sharp is paying for her rent, is paid
her carnal, helped her parents with you know, building a
new deck at their house, whatever, all that has happened.
In many instances, there's a degree of control because if
you looked at the text messages and the lawsuit, it
was about control, doing this, not doing this, go here,
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can't go there, right, It's all about control. And you
don't have that over a quote unquote sex worker who
you're paying to leave. You're just paying for the physical act.
There was a degree of interaction beyond that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So what you're saying is instead of he should just
pay for therapy.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Among other things, that's what he's going as far as paying.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Because when you reach and I've heard that before, people say, oh,
it's about power, it's about power, But you've already reached
a point of power. And if you need a young
basically child at this point, because I believe he has
a daughter around the same age around about like that's
if something doesn't happen in your mind that says, this
is the same age as my daughter. I need to
have power over someone that could literally be my child.
(18:13):
There's something psychologically wrong with you. You need to talk
to somebody about that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, there is a psychological misfire here, and I can't
diagnose him from a distance. I'm not a doctor, but
I know that if you're fifty six and you want
to enter into a relationship, We're not even talking about
a sex worker relationship. We're talking about a bona fide
relationship where you go out and you go out to dinner,
and you spend time together and that person is borderline
(18:36):
young enough to be your granddaughter. Borderline. Yeah, there's something
not quite right with you. There's something that's emotionally and
I would say mentally deficient. It's not about being of
the age of majority where you can legally do this.
This is not about legally versus illegally. This is about
something that is deficient in you as a man, where
(18:57):
you think that that poet teenager can provide something that
you need. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I read an article yesterday I forget was one of
the girly magazines that said that women that are typically
walking in their own power versus in their career taking
care of themselves, they are not as attractive to power
for men they do. Powerful men do not like women
who can be like, yeah, no, you can kick rocks.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, they don't like I would agree that because men
of power or fame want to wield that, if you will,
in all forms of their life. So it's not about
an emotional connection, not really. Well, part of that emotional
connection is connected to the powerful or having power over something,
but not love, y'all, not love, Jackie Ray, We're getting
(19:45):
ready to take it to the hallway because people want
us to talk about this explicitly in the hallway. So Daniel,
we're taking it to the hallway. We're taking it to
the hall Yes. Can I tell people really quick? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
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Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Kelly six Live everywhere, on the iHeartRadio app, live on YouTube.
They're still in the hallway on YouTube. I tell you, yeah,
it got kind of blue in the hallway talking about
all things inappropriate on the air. But let me say this,
if you are a news connoisseur like I am. You're
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following the news all the time. There's a rhythm to it,
and anyone who is savvy about news knows that controlling
the news cycle, controlling what is being discussed, is very important.
It's exceptionally important to politicians. In other words, if you
happen to be an elected official and you release you
have to release bad news. You're going to do it
(20:57):
on a Friday, hopefully closer to five o'clock so it
won't get as much news coverage. And this is something
which is done regardless of political stripes. You always want
to control the news cycle, but it's our job to
recognize when it's being done. What was the biggest story
in the world, at least US news last week? It
(21:18):
was Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Barnett And there was
also the lawsuit donald Trump suing the Wall Street Journal.
That was the biggest story. If and when Donald Trump
is going to release the Epstein files, and then you
realize it was not going in the way of the
Trump administration. You had Maga asking the question, why are
you not releasing the Epstein files? And it seemed if
(21:41):
you're paying attention at each press gaggle, White House Press Corps,
more and more people were asking about that. So how
do you get them to stop asking about something that
you or your administration doesn't want to talk about. You
changed the subject. You give them something else to talk about.
It could be something that you say is outlandish, or
you just you give them something else to chase. And
(22:02):
this is what President Trump has done. It's clear as day.
And I want to show you how. I know, as
clear as day, no one was talking about the Washington
Commanders anywhere, not even the Washington Commanders were talking about
the Washington Commanders. Why because it's not football season. Nobody
was talking about the Cleveland Guardians. Why because it's Cleveland.
(22:23):
Nobody cares anything about Cleveland. But in the same day,
when the President says and threatens the Commanders to change
their name back to the Washington Redskins, and also the
Cleveland Guardians should change their name back to the Cleveland Indians,
when no one was talking about either, and obviously Donald
(22:43):
Trump has no role in either. It's about changing the conversation.
And if he's gonna be asked questions in the next
press gathering, they're gonna ask him about what the Washington Commanders.
They're gonna ask him about what the Cleveland Guardians and
the name changes, which really have nothing to do with him,
or they will ask him about how the President is
(23:03):
considering an executive order on NCAA athlete's employment status, meaning
limiting the NIL deals, which we've talked about extensively on
this show. Name it mentioned likeness. Why the president has
any real opinion about how much college athletes make is
beyond me, and it should be beyond you. But if
you put it in the context of what's going on,
(23:25):
you realize, Oh, change the subject. And here's something else
did I glean and I hope you picked up on it. Two,
When the President threatened, and I do mean threatened, threatened
the Washington Commanders to change their team name back to
the Washington Redskins. He did it against the backdrop of
(23:46):
the threat of withholding federal funds for a new stadium
in Washington, d C. Now, if you really know the story,
he won't be able to do that because a deal
was made with the city of Washington, d C. That
the new stadium would be in the purview of the city,
which means that the Washington Commanders would be dealing with
(24:07):
the mayor of DC, not any federal jurisdiction, even though
the land is federal in nature. But that's only if
you really know the fullness of the story. But did
you notice he threatened it? The President threatened to withhold
funds if a deal did not go down the way
that he wanted to. Doesn't that sound eerily reminiscent of
(24:33):
the Paramount merger? Doesn't it seem kind of strange that
publicly he threatened the commanders if he didn't get his way,
he was going to withhold money because he has federal
power to intervene and throw a monkey wrench in the process.
How is that any different than possibly threatening to intervene
(24:53):
and blow up the Paramount Merger if he doesn't get
his way vis a VI Stephen Colbert or the sixteen
million dollars which was paid to him in that lawsuit.
All I'm saying is, look at the evolution of the
news cycle last week. It was everything about Jeffrey Epstein
(25:17):
and Donald Trump and releasing the files. Oh yeah, I
need release the MLK files today, which nobody was asking for,
not even the family. That's distraction. Okay, so we'll be
asking next week about what's in the MLK files. We'll
be asking about this new Obama conspiracy theory about some
coup and Tulsi Gabbard and overthrowing the government from twenty sixteen,
(25:41):
changing the subject but not changing the content of the conversation.
And the White House Press Corps will probably follow along
and they'll ask about the MLK files which were released today.
They'll ask about the Tulsi Gabbert accusations which were made
against former President Obama. They'll ask about the n C
two A and nil earnings. They'll ask about the Washington
(26:04):
Commanders and whether they should or should not change their
name back to the Redskins, and whether the president would
hold federal funding. They'll ask about the Cleveland Guardians and
whether they should change their name back to Cleveland Indians.
And nobody was asking about that at all or even
thinking about that last week, changing the conversation because you
don't want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and those files
(26:26):
not being released. It's later with mo Kelly caf I
AM six forty we live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And when we come back, what ice cream flavor are you?
Based on your zodiac side. It's time for your horscope.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
K I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. And
as you get older, it was said to me, But
now I know it's true. As I get older, your
tastes change. The things that I I didn't like as
a kid I like as an adult, and vice versa.
When I was a kid, I would only eat chocolate
(27:05):
ice cream. I did not like the taste of vanilla,
couldn't stand it. Now I love vanilla ice cream, can't
tell you why. And I love cookies and cream, and
I really don't like chocolate ice cream anymore. I cannot
tell you why. I had some chocolate ice cream last
week when we had the Thunderbolts ice cream truck out here.
I was yeah, but but but had I had two bowls.
(27:28):
I was greedy. One I got the one that had
like this I can't remember the name of but it
had chocolate ice cream and had chocolate and had a swirl. Yes, yes, yeah, okay,
I like that, but it wasn't as good as the
one had vanilla. I'm just my taste of change. So
when I read this to you about what ice cream
flavor are you based on your zodiac sign, I'm I'm
(27:50):
curious to know if something might be in my sign
which has to do with this Twally. You gave me this,
so I want to blame it on you. If it's
not right, well we'll see aries. Damn it, Aries, you
took mine. Cookies and cream. Aries fights to be first,
will battle over the most noble or utterly inane of causes. Likewise,
(28:11):
cookies and cream are a flavor embroiled in controversy. That's
grammatically incorrect. Cookies and cream is a flavor embroiled in
controversy and claims of first rights. South Dakota State University
maintains that it invented the flavor in seventy nine, and
Eddie's professional ice cream tester John Harrison claims to have
conceived the combo in nineteen eighty two. Bluebell boldly states
(28:33):
on this website that they were the first to create
the innovative flavor. So, in terms of legitimately being first
in a blending of fire signs in ice cream, aries
goes way back to the og days of the dessert,
when rich romans would eat honey covered ice source from
the vesuvious volcano. Taurus, your ice cream is butter pekan.
(28:54):
Taurus makes the second house of excuse me. Taurus rules
the second house of values and possessions, and bulls are
notoriously weak for rich things, not least of all foods
that give them gout and partners that can provide financial
stability cout. I feel attacked. That's dark, I know as
someone who's had a doubt flare up in life. Oh God, there.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Should be an ice cream flavor called gout swirl. No, no,
I wouldn't wish out on anybody suitably.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
The pecan is among the most calorically dense and highly
fattening of all nuts, and butter is well, butter devoted
to decadence. The chorus of Taurus is more and butter
pecan ice cream is just that. Gim and I Mark Spamoni.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Sous freaking no, No, that's the Italian ice cream and
I haven't had any any of that?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Is that a flavor? Mark likes a little spamoni.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
You don't need to make that sound as filthy as
there's no call.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
For that Geminis are terminally indecisive, more than a little nutty,
and statistically speaking, pretty into three sumes.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yeah, what is the straight line between geminis, ice cream
and threesomes?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Here? This seems like a bit of a reach.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
It's a little spum ony making this trifective pistachio, cherry
and chocolate studded with fruits, studded with fruits and nuts utterly.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Apt for this air sign. You make me ill and angry. Yeah, Cancer,
here you go here, Stefan, don't get too far ahead
of yourself. Cookie monster regularly blue, comfort seeking and chop
full of crumbling elements. Cookie Monster, ice cream and cardinal
water sign cancers share some consequential commonalities. Cancer rules the
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fourth house of home and ancestry, and in the broken
poetry of the incorrigible, and they eat your feelings ethos
of the cookie monster himself homeless Where the heart is heart,
where cookie is math clear? Home is cookie? Sounds like
a syllogism. Leo, who's a leo?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Us?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Right? Carnasia is a leo? Your ice cream is mint
chocolate chip. Dang it, that's what I wanted to cook
it a cream? I see see this is wrong winning
sits atop the hierarchy of needs for a leo and
mit chocolate chip was born of competition. I have to
agree this is a nasty ass ice cream. In nineteen
seventy three, British culinary student Marilyn Ricketts conceived of the
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flavor and entered it into a contest to provided ice
cream dessert for Princess Anne, herself a Leo, on the
occasion of her marriage to Captain Mark Phillips. There you go,
calling it the met Royale, Ricketts was crowned the victor
and given a silver cup for ingenuity, and the world
was given a frozen gift. Yeah whatever, So there you go, Passenger,
Princess ice Cream, Royalty mint chocolate chip. Gosh, virgo, yours
(31:52):
is strawberry. That's boring and a surprise to absolutely no one.
Alfred Krawl, who invented the ice cream School and thereby
improved the daily lives of people everywhere, was a virgo, prudish, puritanical,
and plain punishing. When it comes to their food habits,
Virgos are most akin to strawberry ice cream. This flavor
is healthy enough to be admitted into the temple of
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their bodies. And close enough to the source to qualify
as earthy. Libra, you're vanilla, popular, people pleasing, foundational, if
not fun, and unlikely to start a war or trigger
in allergic reaction. Libra is the vanilla ice cream cone
of the zodiac, the hummus of the potluck party, the
subaru outback of the parking lot. Libra is a sign
(32:34):
of partnership, and vanilla was the side kicked the chocolate
for centuries until it went solo in France in the
seventeen hundreds. Things really took off from there, and likewise,
Libras hit their stride when they can strike out on
their own and break free of their need to be
all things to all people. Scorpio, here you go, twalla,
let's go Yours is chocolate. That's damn right, Look at me.
(32:56):
Scorpio is a bowl, all right? Moving on, Sagittarius, that's me. Pistachio.
F oh out of here with that bullshite you would
gets doesn't have a flavor. I don't give a like
(33:19):
chooses who spends money on pistachio ice cream Sadges, not me,
Feisty Sadges with.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Their nutty, nasty ice cream.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Capricorn Your Rocky Road. Invented joined the Great Depression and
named as a nod to the bleak financial situation facing
Americans at the time. This combination of chocolate, marshmallow and
chopped nuts is nasty, but a perfect edible allegory for capricorn.
I put that in most seagoats lived through less than
stillar childhoods easily described as rocky, if not utterly oppressive.
(33:54):
Yet these people are made to endure, born to build,
and set to see it through. All right, a query,
We're almost done chocolate chip cookie dough. I could have
taken that. I would have taken that one too. Chocolate
chip cookie Dough ice cream was born in nineteen eighty
four at Ben and Jerry's original scoop shop in Burlington, Vermont.
Aquarius rules the eleventh house of friends and community and
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true to form. The inspiration for the flavor came courtesy
of an anonymous fan who left a suggestion tacked to
a feedbackboard. Aquarius is so signed the humanitarian and Ben
and Jerry's has proven itself to be a brand vested
in social justice and environmental initiatives. Chocolate chip cookie Dough
Aquarius and closing us out Pisces. Their ice cream is
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cotton candy, black black. The heartbeat of the average Pisces
is made of cotton candy, water log, stuffed animals, prescription pills,
mixtapes glowing the Dark stars, and polaroids of their first loves.
Since only one of these items has a tangible flavor,
it is cotton candy for the cone and the wind. No,
you're not winning. That sounded like a description of a rave, like, yeah,
(34:59):
cotton candy, it's a rave in your mouth. It's for kids, definitely. Yeah,
I'd never like cotton candy, not as a kid or
an adult. It's just like, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
So tall is the only one that got They got
chocolate chocolate. I would have taken chocolate chip, cookie dough.
I would have taken cookies and cream. I would have
taken vanilla. I would have taken chocolate strawberry. Right, but pistachio,
the you should get strawberries.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You wanted that. At least you didn't get mint chocolate.
I see, I would have taken that. Look, I'm taking
all that chocolate and older, the grannies, the grandpa what
what granny? Grandpa's okay? Because my grandparents were grandparents in their.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Fifties, like seventies, and uh they like mint chocolate ice cream.
So young.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Laugh, I know laugh, not young enough to date Shannon
Sharp though, right, not that young. Huh, Thank you very much,
gos okay if I am six forty leaves everywhere now
I heart ready
Speaker 1 (36:03):
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