July 29, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae; host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on Deion Sanders battle with bladder cancer AND Ice Cube’s stance on Angel Reese’s WNBA pay…PLUS – The crew sets out to debunk the myth of ‘Mankeeping’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I guess Later with mo Kelly were live everywhere on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook,
and the iHeartRadio app and joining us in studio customarily
as she does on Mondays, says Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray
is great to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let me just say this. I have long been a
Dion Sanders fan. I've appreciated Despite I may not always
appreciate the antics and the bravado, I still appreciate him
him for what he's done at Jackson State. Turning around Colorado.
Can't argue with the results, but he disappeared for all
the better part of a month. People were concerned about
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his health because he did have two toes amputated his
last round of blood clots. I thought, because they had
this press conference today, that he was gonna announce that
he was going to step down, as did I. As
it turns out, he announced that he had his gallbladder
removed due to bladder cancer. And this is very quick
a place of it. This is what his medical team
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had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But at this point, you have a bladder tumor and
from there, we'll go get it removed and then back
of crophasia. It was go ahead, yeah, So we proceeded
with removal of the bladder tumor. It showed a very aggressive,
very high grade and fading through the bladder wall not
into the muscle layer, something we call very high risk
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non musclim based of bladder cancer.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So we did discuss options.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We discussed some options of treatment in the bladder, and
we discussed bladder removal as well. Given his commitments to
his family and to the team, elected to undergo a
bladder removal. We performed a full robot assist at labroscopic
bladder removal and creation of a new bladder. And I
am pleased to report that the results from the surgery
are that he has cured.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
From the cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Deon Sanders and I can't play. It was like a
forty minute press conference which was not taken live on
ESPN or Fox Sports, which was weird to be but
that's an aside. Dion was saying, like he has to
wear depends unawaere for like the rest of his life
because he has no bladder control. We cannot control your nation.
I don't know what his quality of life is going
to be. But my question to you is should he
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have stepped down given that his health. Even though he
may be passed the operation, he's still going through recovery.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And the reason why I'm going to say no is
because I always you know, this is a question that
hopefully won't come for most of us, but it probably
will come for a lot of us when you get
to that age where you have to make a choice
of do you want to stop working or do you
want to keep doing what you love? And I think
the second you stop living is when things go awry
for you. And this is his passion. This is something
that he's obviously very good at. He definitely influences young
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men to go out into the world, be it football
or just life in general, to be better people. So
I think he's very much needed and it's a passion
for him and it gives him life. And so I
don't think you should ever stop doing anything that you're
passionate about. My dadd us to always say the second
you start living is when you start dying. And I
think he needs to keep doing what he loves.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I have to appreciate because he he's been very public
about his faith, and I appreciated that about him, But
I think you also sent the message that, hey, don't
cry for me. You know I'm a very blessed person.
In fact, listen to what he has to say and
how he puts it, and I think, in a wonderful perspective, well,
I have to actually put the clip. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I never once through this whole journey said God, why me,
because I would have to say, God, why you? Why?
I mean you sitting me up here in front of
these wonderful people, Why you give me the position of
the head football coach of the prestigious university. Why you
allow me to father five wonderful kids? Why you give
me these relationships with these wonderful people? Why? Mean, Lord,
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then I have some of the things that I have.
I can never say that. I can never say the
other side because I'm gonna have to ask that. I said, Lord,
whatever it is that you're doing, let me know what
it is so I could expedicate the process.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He's been through fourteen surgeries in four years. I don't
know how emotionally I would respond to that, assuming everything
went right with all the surgeries. TI fourteen surgeries in
four years, and we know that he lost two totes
to amputation. And I don't know because he's been closely
guarding his health, I don't know what other issues that
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he's been dealing with.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yeah, he's fifty seven, and so that's fourteen surgeries in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I'm fifty five.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're in the same space.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Right you're talking when you talk about these types of surgeries,
you're literally, in my mind, this is something that starts
happening later in life, and then you have to start
thinking about these things. But that mindset is very much
you have to take the good with the bad, and
he has had a very blessed life, and so I applaud.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Him for that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I don't know that most of us would be able
to do that though. I don't know if most of
us would be able to sit down and say I've
had a great life, because I think that when you
say that we all have to deal with our mortality
sooner or later, we just do. The second you lose
somebody that's close to you, you have to start dealing
with your own mortality. But for him, he's dealing with
it in a different way. He's dealing with it in
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my body is showing me that it is not up
to par. And so that for him to be sitting
there and looking.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So it was a world class, world class across two professionals. Yess.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
So for him to be sitting there and have such
decorum and such positivity and talk about the good people
that he wants to continue to bless in his life,
that he's different. We've always known Dionn is different, but
this proves that he's different and his faith is what's
keeping him grounded right now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now, I made mention to it, but you and I
both work in media. You and I have both worked
in sports media. I was very taken aback when I
realized that neither ESPN nor Fox Sports took the press
conference live nor had a reporter reporting on it as
it was happening. They just made a mention of it. Later.
Am I making too much of them?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
No, that's we should all be making a lot of
That is you know, when you have someone like Dionn,
You've covered every.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Aspect of his career.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You've covered everything from him waking up to him laying down.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He's had a whole reality.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Show, so you've covered every aspect of his life, and
now when he's at a moment that is pivotal for
him to he's clearly getting the supports. I'm not saying
he needs it, but as a sports organization, and it
is your job to report on everything that is sports related,
and you're not reporting on one of the biggest names
in sports telling you one of the biggest things that
happened in his life.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
To me, that's an agenda.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And I don't know what he he did, but you
know what, people pissed me off every day if they
have a story. I still do it because I'm ethical
and I'm a journalist.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, that bothers me because that was, to me, a
conscious decision and an editorial decision. You don't miss that.
That was a news moment which you still cover. Do
you cover it for the whole forty minutes? Maybe not,
Maybe you do ten minutes, you drop out of it.
You recap it like we do here on KFI. For
a lot of press calls.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
They should have at least had a camera. They record
the whole thing edited up and make it a three
minute package.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Or you have it split stream. It's like we're monitoring
the Dion Sanders press conference. Will let you know, he
just announced that he's survived bladder cancer surgery. He's going
to remain on as head coach because this is a
big deal. It's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Surviving any type of cancer is a big deal. Surviving
cancer and not resigning your position as a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, let's not forget ESPN with a whole you know,
Jimmy v cancer. Uh you know, a foundation, right, and
the whole thing that they do every single year. It
just rings real hypocritical yep.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And the optics that would be always my concern, regardless
of what the real reason for you not covering it.
What do the optics say. I'm just saying ESPN do better.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's later with Mokel when we come back. We want
to talk about some WNBA. We have Ice Cube, who
has been a guest on the show, so I have
nothing against him. He obviously is the founder of the
Big Three and is a rival to the NBA. The
NBA does not want the Big Three to succeed at all.
You may remember about a year ago he made an offer,
don't know if it was real or not, for Kitlyn
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Clark to come play the Big Three for five million dollars.
Now of course, Kitlyn Clark makes more than five million
in just in endorsements. But the question is now, was
the same offer extended to Angel Reese, who was perceived
to be her adversary her again to her Yang. We'll
get into that next.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Forty KFIM six forty. Yes Later with Mo Kelly live
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we're still going to beyond the box Score with Jackuray
who joins me in studio. You can take a look
at both of us on our YouTube Simulcash as Jackuary
waves to the crowd, Jackie, you and I love talking
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basketball WNBA and the intersection between NBA and WNBA issues
there is I don't want to say it's competition, but
it is opposition to the NBA. The NBA has been
trying to kill the Big Three, the three on three
league that ice Cube founded for years now, but the
w NBA has come into focus because ice Cube has
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been trying to recruit the likes of Caitlin Clark, who
I don't think it was an honest attempt, but he
offered her five million last year to play against men
with men in the Big Three, and Kitlyn Clark obviously
was going to make more money in the w NBA
and also being allowed to get the endorsements through WNBA sponsors,
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she makes more than five million. Easy. But there was
a story which came out this week in which Ice Cube,
I guess he was asked about Angel Reeves whether she
would get a similar offer from him in the Big Three,
and he said basically no, Caitlyn is a bigger star,
could bring in more eyeballs. I'm paraphraser. What did he
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get right or what did he get wrong about that?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Let me tread lightly. I think he, in essence, he
got it right.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think Caitlin Clark would be a bigger, bigger draw
in essence because we've seen that she brings a very
specific fan base and just statistically in the country, that's
just demographics, it's it's just a larger demographic. I think
where he got it wrong is to say that Angel
Rees wouldn't give an immediate spike to that league, because
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that's very wrong. I mean, Angel Rees has she got
She's like the Beyonce a basketball right now. People follow
her because of what she's selling on Amazon. You know
what she she's.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
A beauty icon in endorsement.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Easy Easy.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
She comes across my feet every day about oh and
I I'm not even gonna lie. I'll be right in
her little Amazon shop to see if there's anything in there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That might work for me.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
She is a monaker for the w n B A
M Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yes, And I think for ice Cube to say that,
you know, now here's where people will be like now,
we've seen a lot of Kitlyn Clark now her first
year in obviously it was about the threes and all
of that good stuff. But what I think we're seeing
right now is more of who Caitlyn Clark actually is
in this even with the injuries and her flopping and
things of that nature. I don't think that we're talking
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about one player being better than the other.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, can I say it this way? I think I
wouldn't call it the sophomore jinks. But the league has
adjusted to Caitlyn Clark in the right game right and
making her be more than just a shooter. When they
make her a distributor, she's turnover prom yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
She's she's always been like that, and she's a volume shoot.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
In other words, she needs to shoot a lot of
shots and get her points. And if you can make
it more difficult for her to be successful as a shooter,
that really limits her game.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, she doesn't spark fear anybody because if she gets hot,
you can make her go cold. And so I think
to your point, they have learned who she is as
a player with Angel rees she has learned how to
if her shot doesn't go down, she has still learned
how to be effective. I tell people this all the time.
Everybody in the game has a bad night. What you
need to know how to do is still be productive
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while you have a bad shooting night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And she's learned how to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
She's learned how to distribute the ball, She's learned how
to take care of the Everything on her numbers is up.
So when you try to say, oh, Caitlin Clark is better,
then you're you're tapping into the hype.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And I'm going to just go out and say it.
The hype.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
A lot of the hype that comes with Caitlin Clark
is very negative, race baiting hype.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Look, I read the blogs. I read all the things,
the things that they say about Angel Reeks. Don't have
anything to do with basketball. No, let's just be clear,
let's be honest about that. But I will say this,
that is going to generate millions and millions of dollars
for the w NBA. We talked about this. This is
their CBA year, the Collective Marketing Agreement, there negotiations. Now
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these players are going to get paid, not to level
of NBA players because they're still not bringing in that
type of revenue. But this rising tile tide is going
to lift all boats. Yes, they're going to double, if
not triple, their salary.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
As they should because when you're talking about the endorsement
deals that they're getting, the TV sponsors that they're getting,
the TV deals that they're getting, And this is what
I tell people all the time. They're like, oh, they're
asking for money, and the league's never been in the black.
You guys are talking about money from your bank account.
Rich people broke and regular people broke is not the
same broke. And so this is not a league that
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is in any danger of going bankrupt tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But they don't understand the business. When you sell the
broadcast rights, you're talking about ten years out and then
the networks have to then sell them the flud commercials
and recoup their money. There is a trajectory to all this. Yes,
they are growing by leaps and bounds where this league
is going to be making far more money in two
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three years than it is right now.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh yeah, I mean you think about ABC, ESPN.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
The New York Liberty are right now valued at four
hundred and fifty million dollars. The Golden State Valkyries, this
is their first season in the league, are already valued
at five hundred million. So obviously the money is there,
the fans are there. As a reporter who's been covering
the LA Sparks, it is so fun to see because
the LA Sparks just started winning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They just went on a five.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah yeah, no, it's like, wait what I know, But
it's so fun to watch how many people are there.
And so before they went on this wind streak though,
they were still packing out their arena because people were
coming not only to see them, but to see the
other team.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So the league is growing across the board. What people
don't know, and they may not be old enough to
remember or know. As a historical perspective, when Magic and
Berg came into the NBA, the NBA was averaging less
attendance than the w NBA is right now.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I tell people that all the time, when Michael Jordan
came in to Chicago, there was a soccer team that
was getting more peoples in the seats in the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was like five and six the house and people,
you know, it's I'm not talking about LA in New York.
I'm talking about the smaller marketing. You know, he had Milwaukee,
No Almo was going.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
To see and now they're the hottest ticket in town.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right So there is a historical parallel here. It's not
going to happen overnight, but they are definitely they as
in WNBA players, they're about to get paid. And for
those who are are angry about the shirts of the
All Star Game talking about payous.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
They just don't understand the numbers. They don't get people
don't read. I want to say one more thing about
ice Cube, though.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
The other thing that bothers me about this ice Cube
has long been this man that has exalted himself as
a pro black man, who is about black people and
is about his community. So why he took this moment
to say anything disparaging about a black woman bothers me.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Here's what bothers me about what Cube did. He based
it around statements that Angel Reice made a year ago.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Right, but out of context though, because she didn't say
that she couldn't pay her bills. She said based on
her WNBA salary alone, which she said, if that was
all I had to live on, I couldn't pay my bills.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And that's not all the money she's getting.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
But she's also speaking on behalf of the players correct
don't have the endorsement income, who don't have the ability
to supplement their income, and that goes back to Britney Grinder,
while people were playing overseas to supplement their income and
because the WNBA was not paying them enough.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So what's the lesson here? Read before you speak.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. Jackie Wray,
I don't want you to leave yet, because there is
this new trend and term going around talking about mankeeping
where some women are upset because they are seen as
having to take care of men in a therapeutic sense
and they're I'm sorry, I mean to Lee, I'm rather offended,
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but we'll get into it. If I answers forty, we
live everywhere in my Heart Radio Webb.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And this
next story, Twala gave it to me and I was
reading this, it just made me matter. The more I
read it, the further I got into it, the more
angry I became because I'm thinking, like, this can't be real,
but it is real. There is a new i'll say
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psychological psychotherapy term which is making its way around social media,
and it's called man keeping. Man keeping it just sounds
just real disrespectful because it is. It describes the work
women do to meet the social and emotional needs of
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men in their lives, from supporting their partners through daily
challenges and inner turmoil to encouraging them to meet up
with their friends. Well, it just makes us like, are
we just helpless or something? Are you like, is that
another word for new mother? You're saying men can't function
without women? Is that what this article is trying to say?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I mean, there's not a women loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
In a twenty twenty one survey, fifteen percent of men
said they didn't have any close friends, up from three
percent in nineteen ninety. Who the hell did they ask?
The same report showed that in nineteen ninety, nearly half
of young men say they would reach out to friends
when facing a personal issue. Two decades later, just over
twenty twenty to two thirds percent said the same. According
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to Somebody Women Quote, women tended to have all of
these nodes of support they were going to for problems,
whereas men were more likely to just be going to them.
You know, this is what I think, and this is
going to sound very sexist. I think men play the
role of opening up for the benefit of getting with
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a woman. They're fake opening up, They're not actually opening up,
because why is it a man is just going to
tell all of his deep seated issues and problems.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So, no, we don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
We're not built that way. Look at Mark Ronner. You
think he talks to the long suffering one and tells
all his deep, dark secrets. Look at Tony so Torentino.
He doesn't talk to women, not like that. At least
Tony am I wrong. It's radio. You have to actually
turn your mike. I know. Uh now, I just keep
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to myself.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
You Mark, am I wrong? I don't really want to
be dragged into your filth there. If you just proceed
without me, dig your own grave.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
All I'm saying is men were not built that way. Now.
Can we open up under the right circumstances. Yes, but
we're not emotionally dependent on women now more so than
twenty five years ago. That's BS. It's BS. And they
want to ascribe a term to it. They want to
emasculate us and say men keeping. Men have to be kept.
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They're emotionally fragile. They don't know who to talk to,
they don't know where to turn. This is this is
not real.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
This is from the New York Times. Okay, it's fake news.
Male social disconnection this is This is from the article
male social disconnection is a larger problem. Rather than viewing
man keeping as an Internet approved bit of therapy speak
used to dump on straight men, experts said, you know,
experts whoever they are, experts said they see it as
a term that can help sound the alarm about the
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need for men to invest emotionally in friendships. You have
got to be.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Kidding, because if you're not talking to your girl then
and you're not talking to your guys. What are you
talking to?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Okay, we talk to ourselves all the time. I'm in
the shower and I said, I can't believe this mother
father did What If I see so and so at
the job, We're going to have a misunderstanding. And I
feel better Why because I'm not being interrupted like my
wife always does. I get to finish my thoughts. I
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get to have a whole, full on conversation and I'm
respected and my thoughts are respected. Not everything needs to
be shared with everyone.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Okay, Look that sounds like pent up energy when you
don't let that out.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And I think that the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Best part of life is wisdom and knowing when to
say certain things and knowing to whom you should and
should not say certain things. Not everything needs to be said.
Everything I think about Twala. I'm not sharing with Twala. Okay,
that's my man fifty grand, But I need to say everything.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I feel that when people in the check could profit
from that thought process, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Eric Loasardo in the chat says, Moe doth protest too much? Protesting? No, No,
I have no problem. If you, as a man feel
more comfortable bearing your soul to whatever woman is in
your life, and God bless you. I take issue with
the idea that men are somehow suffering more in twenty
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twenty five, or we're more emotionally immature and underdeveloped, but
we can't handle our emotions. We're just mostly infantile and
we don't know how to handle emotions in the twenty
first century.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
But can we agree that most men are listen to me,
listen to most men have a lower emotional IQ than women.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Can we not agree about that emotion?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You say that our EQ is lower?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Your IQ, your emotional IQQ. Okay, it's lower, yeah, exponentially.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, we're not going to know.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But that's just proving my point.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We're you said, care we agree? No, we can't.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You can't agree.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You just said that you would rather have a conversation
with yourself in the shower. And you don't think that
your emotional IQ might be lower than your wife?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, no, no, absolutely not, because my wife is far
less delicate than I am. As far as nuance and
understanding someone else's feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That sounds made up.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It's accurate, though, Oh my god, you know it is
part of our nature to be nurturing.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Care that is exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Not necessarily is your part of your nature to not
leave us alone. It's part of your nature to not
know when to stop talking. If I could just get
women to understand sometimes just stop talking, just just stop credation,
just stop talking. For example, there are days, and this
is for women, there are days when your man comes home.
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He doesn't want to hear anything about anything. Don't ask them,
So tell me about your day. So how I die. No,
just because he walks in the door, that is not
an opportunity to start a conversation. Sometimes a man just
wants to be able to come in, sit down, maybe
have a beverage, and be alone in his thoughts, and
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then he'll re emerge from his emotional cave a little
bit later on. But yup, you guys talk about emotional
intelligence and IQ. You don't necessarily recognize when there's a
time to stop talking.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, Jeff, go ahead, listen, go ahead, that's communication. Hey babe,
I know you're excited to talk to me, but just
give me a couple of minutes to debrief. I had
a hard day at work, and then we could talk
in like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And I've done that, and I get I get a
lot of flak for that. Oh, get called in sensitive
or or its like you don't know how to communicate. No,
I communicated that I don't want to communicate.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I mean I feel that there's you know, Conversely, when
I've been in a relationship and I've had a partner
come home, there have been times when he's come home
and I've looked at the clock and I'm like, oh,
he about to get here.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I just don't want to be in his company.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That's not to say anything about him per se, but
I just I'm a loner at heart, and so maybe
that's what's happening. I think these are two different things.
I'm a loner at heart. I like to be by myself.
I enjoy my own company.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Eric Losarto says on the Motown Chap YouTube, Wow, did
missus Mo lose her hearing today? No, she's not listening
to this show. She knows I'm right anyhow, And just
me says mister Mo Kelly, you better choose your words wisely.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Just saying I think he passed on.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know why I think he passed that because I'm
the man of my house. I have nothing to worry about.
I am ruler of all. I survey.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If Moe's not here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It means I chose not to come in, and I
let everyone know my decision. There it is final.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You see his chest, y'all, he done poked his chest
out with his chest.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's right, real man in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Okay, and yet we've sat here and been pretty quiet
this whole time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No eve, y'all were running your mouth the whole segment.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
No, no, no, listen, okay, chat, okay, unleash, release the kracking.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It was James Evans who said, on good times, okad
here we go only two places for ks on do that?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, cut the cameras on the way off today.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want to secretly agree, but if I say something,
I'll go down with no.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
What are you doing right now? What are you doing?
I'm taking the bullet for all the.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's not a bullet. That is an a r.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's not helping. You are not helping us. Man keeping
needs to go somewhere. It's not a real thing.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Women knocking up, You're gonna drive around for extra time
tonight and just be in the card.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You didn't hear the shout?
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Didn't when I get home.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Luckily, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
She's listening right now. She would say, yeah, that's that's
pretty accurate. He says that at home. I'm being serious.
I'm absolutely being serious. Janet Bee on the chat says,
love you, mo see, I am know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
This is her emotionally keeping you right now.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Daryl Sexty says, take it to the hallway. Should we
take it to the hallway?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I think we should.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We're gonna take it to the hallway. Haven't you done enough? Yes,
I'm gonna dig deeper. I gotta shovel and I want
to keep on digging.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, ladies, Remember though, men don't need to be kept right.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Come on, I don't need the protection.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Let me let him use that shovel.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Let me if I am sixty. Look, if you're listening
right now, go to YouTube. That's the easiest way at
Mister bo Kelly will have to continue this conversation in the hallway.
That'll probably be some inappropriate language, some profanity, but a
whole lot of truth. And I'm getting ready to tell
you if I am six forty, We're live everywhere in
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (28:12):
Six forty label Mo Kelly. We're alive everywhere on social
media and n iHeart Radio app and if you saw
us in the hallway, we have a lot of people
who just logged on all that was real. I was
not saying anything that I didn't mean. Twala wasn't saying
anything he didn't mean.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
I'm trying to say, Look, we go to the hall
to keep it real.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's one hundred people like was Mo, like Kitty was No.
I was being absolutely one hundred percent serious. There are
times when I need folks to stop talking, just stop talking.
That is the emotional support that I need to know
when I don't want to hear from you anymore. All right,
let's go to the horoscope. You're Weird and Wild horoscope
(28:52):
for this week aries The individual is ready to explore love,
but be aware a rogue Tuesday banana peel could lead
to a surprise dance with a fire hydrant. What that
sounds wild, I've never danced with a fire hydrant. Don't worry.
The cosmic energy shifts and your quick recovery will impress
someone special. Ensure the dancing partner has good health insurance Taurus,
(29:16):
you feel exceptionally free. You might explore volunteering, but it
could involve offering services as a professional lama whisperer or
a caasee tester for experimental artisan cheeses. Nice. I don't
like chess. I don't like the experimental cheeses. I don't
like the pungent stell Jesus, No, I just keep it simple,
(29:39):
Keep it simple. I need pungent Jemini mark ready. Creativity
is engaged, perhaps a little too much. You could find
yourself attempting to remodel your work desk into a sentient
robot assistant or sounds just like me, doesn't it any yes? Yes?
Or renovating your kitchen to include a self stirring calls
(30:01):
which is it going to be?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I just ordered some material to make some advanced super
health drinks last night. And cauldron. I made a complete
mess out of the kitchen. That's a cauldron. You need
a cauldron to help you not make a message. Yeah,
maybe these there's something to these things after all, and
I've been mocking them for no good reason.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Double double toil, trouble, cauldron burn, What does it go?
What is this cauldron bubble? Something like that cancer. You
may become involved in a confusing romantic situation involving a
shared project and dramatically different ideas about whether a joint
pottery class should focus on functional wear or interpretive sculptures
depicting existential dread. Respond with logic, but feel free to
(30:44):
add a little flare with a well placed dramatic sigh leo.
Patience is rewarded, especially if that patience involves waiting for
the perfect moment to unleash your inner flamboyant performer at
an employ business meeting. Just make sure your brilliant solution
doesn't involve a glitter Bombay you go Carnacian Virgo. Try
(31:08):
a new approach to romance, even if that means letting
a friend set you up on a blind date with
someone who owns twenty seven miniature Schnauzers and communicates primarily
through interpretive dance. You never know, you might discover a
hidden talent for communicating through canine inspired gestures yourself that
should have been mine because I got the Schnauzers. Libra,
(31:28):
you the apple of everyone's eye, But be cautious of
confrontation around Thursday could involve an improblem to wrestling match
over the last slice of cake at the office party.
Your diplomatic skills may be tested, but remember a well
placed compliment about someone's unique frosting choices can go a
very long way. That's oddly specific. Yes, Scorpio, here's yours.
(31:50):
Swallow that's got a bit of romantic discord could turn
into a potentially hot do et. So sing away. Just
be careful that your emotional reactions around this Thursday don't
lead to a spontaneous karaoke battle that accidentally sparks a
minor international incident. And all the years I've known to all,
I've never seen them do karaoke. I can't sing, neither
(32:12):
can most people doing Carrio. No no, no no, I was.
I was literally told that I should not do karaoke anymore.
It was so off. No no I went. I went
actually with my Who did I go with? Who did
I go with? I went with members of my dough jo.
I went.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
It was after a test, was after a belt testing,
and we were all very hype and celebratory, and we
went karaoke.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And one of.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
One of my senior classmates after a carrier they said,
you know she she's from from out of the country. Sisters, Twala,
I thought all black people can sing. Growing growing up
where I grew up, we were taught that all black
people can sing. You cannot. You are proof that the
stereotype is not real. Look at it for a second.
(33:06):
I'm like, it's up a top of it. I'm so
confused right now. And even the karaoke DJ he was
looking at me with such like, get your ass off
the microphone.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But you can rap.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
We've heard that, Yeah, but you know that's not really karaoke.
That's like, no one cares about you wrapping karaoke. Sagittarius
gus me. Even with a foggy path ahead, you're on
the right track.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Just be cautious that if that path in ball's following
a suspiciously cheerful squirrel holding a map to a hidden
treasure chest filled with our artisanal pickles. Your instinct is strong,
but so is your imagination. I don't get it. I
don't get it. Watch the pickle and squirrels and pickles.
It just sounds wrong. Watch the pickles, avoid the squirrels. Tony,
(33:51):
here's capricorn, all right. Connections are extra easy, but your
tendency to be a worry wart could lead you to
overthink a simple coffee into a potential hostile takeover a
date of a small nation. Yeah didn't say was acknowledge
the worry. Then persevere down your path, perhaps with a
side order of extra whipped cream. Sounds kinky.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Don't go on coffee dates, Tony, I don't like coffee.
You don't need to actually drink coffee in a coffee date.
You can get a botch your child. I don't even
drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You know where my wife and I first met for
our first date, coffee shop, and I didn't get coffee.
Look at me now, hot cocoa.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
There's lots of things you can get with that whipped cream, Toney, Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Striking the balance between giving and getting may seem complicated,
especially if getting quote unquote involves acquiring a vast collection
of vintage space theme socks. Keep things loose and free
to make romantic discoveries, even if it's a mutual love
for obscure extraterrestrial documentaries. And lastly, Pisces, you've been trapped
(35:03):
in a labyrinth, but finding your way just got simpler.
Find your way out, I should say, just be cautious,
as the solution might involve following a flock of singing
pigeons to a secret passage hidden behind a particularly for
a fragrant pile of cheese. There's cheese again. Embrace the silliness.
It might lead to unexpected joy. And there is your
horoscope for this week. K if I am six forty
(35:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I guess Later with mo Kelly were live everywhere on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook,
and the iHeartRadio app and joining us in studio customarily
as she does on Mondays, says Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray
is great to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let me just say this. I have long been a
Dion Sanders fan. I've appreciated Despite I may not always
appreciate the antics and the bravado, I still appreciate him
him for what he's done at Jackson State. Turning around Colorado.
Can't argue with the results, but he disappeared for all
the better part of a month. People were concerned about
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his health because he did have two toes amputated his
last round of blood clots. I thought, because they had
this press conference today, that he was gonna announce that
he was going to step down, as did I. As
it turns out, he announced that he had his gallbladder
removed due to bladder cancer. And this is very quick
a place of it. This is what his medical team
(01:02):
had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
But at this point, you have a bladder tumor and
from there, we'll go get it removed and then back
of crophasia. It was go ahead, yeah, So we proceeded
with removal of the bladder tumor. It showed a very aggressive,
very high grade and fading through the bladder wall not
into the muscle layer, something we call very high risk
(01:24):
non musclim based of bladder cancer.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So we did discuss options.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We discussed some options of treatment in the bladder, and
we discussed bladder removal as well. Given his commitments to
his family and to the team, elected to undergo a
bladder removal. We performed a full robot assist at labroscopic
bladder removal and creation of a new bladder. And I
am pleased to report that the results from the surgery
are that he has cured.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
From the cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Deon Sanders and I can't play. It was like a
forty minute press conference which was not taken live on
ESPN or Fox Sports, which was weird to be but
that's an aside. Dion was saying, like he has to
wear depends unawaere for like the rest of his life
because he has no bladder control. We cannot control your nation.
I don't know what his quality of life is going
to be. But my question to you is should he
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have stepped down given that his health. Even though he
may be passed the operation, he's still going through recovery.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'm going to say no.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And the reason why I'm going to say no is
because I always you know, this is a question that
hopefully won't come for most of us, but it probably
will come for a lot of us when you get
to that age where you have to make a choice
of do you want to stop working or do you
want to keep doing what you love? And I think
the second you stop living is when things go awry
for you. And this is his passion. This is something
that he's obviously very good at. He definitely influences young
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men to go out into the world, be it football
or just life in general, to be better people. So
I think he's very much needed and it's a passion
for him and it gives him life. And so I
don't think you should ever stop doing anything that you're
passionate about. My dadd us to always say the second
you start living is when you start dying. And I
think he needs to keep doing what he loves.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I have to appreciate because he he's been very public
about his faith, and I appreciated that about him, But
I think you also sent the message that, hey, don't
cry for me. You know I'm a very blessed person.
In fact, listen to what he has to say and
how he puts it, and I think, in a wonderful perspective, well,
I have to actually put the clip. Here we go.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I never once through this whole journey said God, why me,
because I would have to say, God, why you? Why?
I mean you sitting me up here in front of
these wonderful people, Why you give me the position of
the head football coach of the prestigious university. Why you
allow me to father five wonderful kids? Why you give
me these relationships with these wonderful people? Why? Mean, Lord,
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then I have some of the things that I have.
I can never say that. I can never say the
other side because I'm gonna have to ask that. I said, Lord,
whatever it is that you're doing, let me know what
it is so I could expedicate the process.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He's been through fourteen surgeries in four years. I don't
know how emotionally I would respond to that, assuming everything
went right with all the surgeries. TI fourteen surgeries in
four years, and we know that he lost two totes
to amputation. And I don't know because he's been closely
guarding his health, I don't know what other issues that
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he's been dealing with.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yeah, he's fifty seven, and so that's fourteen surgeries in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I'm fifty five.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're in the same space.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Right you're talking when you talk about these types of surgeries,
you're literally, in my mind, this is something that starts
happening later in life, and then you have to start
thinking about these things. But that mindset is very much
you have to take the good with the bad, and
he has had a very blessed life, and so I applaud.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Him for that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I don't know that most of us would be able
to do that though. I don't know if most of
us would be able to sit down and say I've
had a great life, because I think that when you
say that we all have to deal with our mortality
sooner or later, we just do. The second you lose
somebody that's close to you, you have to start dealing
with your own mortality. But for him, he's dealing with
it in a different way. He's dealing with it in
(05:09):
my body is showing me that it is not up
to par. And so that for him to be sitting
there and looking.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So it was a world class, world class across two professionals. Yess.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
So for him to be sitting there and have such
decorum and such positivity and talk about the good people
that he wants to continue to bless in his life,
that he's different. We've always known Dionn is different, but
this proves that he's different and his faith is what's
keeping him grounded right now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now, I made mention to it, but you and I
both work in media. You and I have both worked
in sports media. I was very taken aback when I
realized that neither ESPN nor Fox Sports took the press
conference live nor had a reporter reporting on it as
it was happening. They just made a mention of it. Later.
Am I making too much of them?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
No, that's we should all be making a lot of
That is you know, when you have someone like Dionn,
You've covered every.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Aspect of his career.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You've covered everything from him waking up to him laying down.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He's had a whole reality.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Show, so you've covered every aspect of his life, and
now when he's at a moment that is pivotal for
him to he's clearly getting the supports. I'm not saying
he needs it, but as a sports organization, and it
is your job to report on everything that is sports related,
and you're not reporting on one of the biggest names
in sports telling you one of the biggest things that
happened in his life.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
To me, that's an agenda.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And I don't know what he he did, but you
know what, people pissed me off every day if they
have a story. I still do it because I'm ethical
and I'm a journalist.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, that bothers me because that was, to me, a
conscious decision and an editorial decision. You don't miss that.
That was a news moment which you still cover. Do
you cover it for the whole forty minutes? Maybe not,
Maybe you do ten minutes, you drop out of it.
You recap it like we do here on KFI. For
a lot of press calls.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
They should have at least had a camera. They record
the whole thing edited up and make it a three
minute package.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Or you have it split stream. It's like we're monitoring
the Dion Sanders press conference. Will let you know, he
just announced that he's survived bladder cancer surgery. He's going
to remain on as head coach because this is a
big deal. It's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Surviving any type of cancer is a big deal. Surviving
cancer and not resigning your position as a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, let's not forget ESPN with a whole you know,
Jimmy v cancer. Uh you know, a foundation, right, and
the whole thing that they do every single year. It
just rings real hypocritical yep.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And the optics that would be always my concern, regardless
of what the real reason for you not covering it.
What do the optics say. I'm just saying ESPN do better.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's later with Mokel when we come back. We want
to talk about some WNBA. We have Ice Cube, who
has been a guest on the show, so I have
nothing against him. He obviously is the founder of the
Big Three and is a rival to the NBA. The
NBA does not want the Big Three to succeed at all.
You may remember about a year ago he made an offer,
don't know if it was real or not, for Kitlyn
(08:09):
Clark to come play the Big Three for five million dollars.
Now of course, Kitlyn Clark makes more than five million
in just in endorsements. But the question is now, was
the same offer extended to Angel Reese, who was perceived
to be her adversary her again to her Yang. We'll
get into that next.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
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Speaker 2 (08:30):
Forty KFIM six forty. Yes Later with Mo Kelly live
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we're still going to beyond the box Score with Jackuray
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waves to the crowd, Jackie, you and I love talking
(08:53):
basketball WNBA and the intersection between NBA and WNBA issues
there is I don't want to say it's competition, but
it is opposition to the NBA. The NBA has been
trying to kill the Big Three, the three on three
league that ice Cube founded for years now, but the
w NBA has come into focus because ice Cube has
(09:16):
been trying to recruit the likes of Caitlin Clark, who
I don't think it was an honest attempt, but he
offered her five million last year to play against men
with men in the Big Three, and Kitlyn Clark obviously
was going to make more money in the w NBA
and also being allowed to get the endorsements through WNBA sponsors,
(09:38):
she makes more than five million. Easy. But there was
a story which came out this week in which Ice Cube,
I guess he was asked about Angel Reeves whether she
would get a similar offer from him in the Big Three,
and he said basically no, Caitlyn is a bigger star,
could bring in more eyeballs. I'm paraphraser. What did he
(09:58):
get right or what did he get wrong about that?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Let me tread lightly. I think he, in essence, he
got it right.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think Caitlin Clark would be a bigger, bigger draw
in essence because we've seen that she brings a very
specific fan base and just statistically in the country, that's
just demographics, it's it's just a larger demographic. I think
where he got it wrong is to say that Angel
Rees wouldn't give an immediate spike to that league, because
(10:29):
that's very wrong. I mean, Angel Rees has she got
She's like the Beyonce a basketball right now. People follow
her because of what she's selling on Amazon. You know
what she she's.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
A beauty icon in endorsement.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Easy Easy.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
She comes across my feet every day about oh and
I I'm not even gonna lie. I'll be right in
her little Amazon shop to see if there's anything in there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That might work for me.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
She is a monaker for the w n B A
M Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yes, And I think for ice Cube to say that,
you know, now here's where people will be like now,
we've seen a lot of Kitlyn Clark now her first
year in obviously it was about the threes and all
of that good stuff. But what I think we're seeing
right now is more of who Caitlyn Clark actually is
in this even with the injuries and her flopping and
things of that nature. I don't think that we're talking
(11:18):
about one player being better than the other.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, can I say it this way? I think I
wouldn't call it the sophomore jinks. But the league has
adjusted to Caitlyn Clark in the right game right and
making her be more than just a shooter. When they
make her a distributor, she's turnover prom yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
She's she's always been like that, and she's a volume shoot.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
In other words, she needs to shoot a lot of
shots and get her points. And if you can make
it more difficult for her to be successful as a shooter,
that really limits her game.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, she doesn't spark fear anybody because if she gets hot,
you can make her go cold. And so I think
to your point, they have learned who she is as
a player with Angel rees she has learned how to
if her shot doesn't go down, she has still learned
how to be effective. I tell people this all the time.
Everybody in the game has a bad night. What you
need to know how to do is still be productive
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while you have a bad shooting night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And she's learned how to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
She's learned how to distribute the ball, She's learned how
to take care of the Everything on her numbers is up.
So when you try to say, oh, Caitlin Clark is better,
then you're you're tapping into the hype.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And I'm going to just go out and say it.
The hype.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
A lot of the hype that comes with Caitlin Clark
is very negative, race baiting hype.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Look, I read the blogs. I read all the things,
the things that they say about Angel Reeks. Don't have
anything to do with basketball. No, let's just be clear,
let's be honest about that. But I will say this,
that is going to generate millions and millions of dollars
for the w NBA. We talked about this. This is
their CBA year, the Collective Marketing Agreement, there negotiations. Now
(12:50):
these players are going to get paid, not to level
of NBA players because they're still not bringing in that
type of revenue. But this rising tile tide is going
to lift all boats. Yes, they're going to double, if
not triple, their salary.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
As they should because when you're talking about the endorsement
deals that they're getting, the TV sponsors that they're getting,
the TV deals that they're getting, And this is what
I tell people all the time. They're like, oh, they're
asking for money, and the league's never been in the black.
You guys are talking about money from your bank account.
Rich people broke and regular people broke is not the
same broke. And so this is not a league that
(13:24):
is in any danger of going bankrupt tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But they don't understand the business. When you sell the
broadcast rights, you're talking about ten years out and then
the networks have to then sell them the flud commercials
and recoup their money. There is a trajectory to all this. Yes,
they are growing by leaps and bounds where this league
is going to be making far more money in two
(13:49):
three years than it is right now.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh yeah, I mean you think about ABC, ESPN.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
The New York Liberty are right now valued at four
hundred and fifty million dollars. The Golden State Valkyries, this
is their first season in the league, are already valued
at five hundred million. So obviously the money is there,
the fans are there. As a reporter who's been covering
the LA Sparks, it is so fun to see because
the LA Sparks just started winning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They just went on a five.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah yeah, no, it's like, wait what I know, But
it's so fun to watch how many people are there.
And so before they went on this wind streak though,
they were still packing out their arena because people were
coming not only to see them, but to see the
other team.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So the league is growing across the board. What people
don't know, and they may not be old enough to
remember or know. As a historical perspective, when Magic and
Berg came into the NBA, the NBA was averaging less
attendance than the w NBA is right now.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I tell people that all the time, when Michael Jordan
came in to Chicago, there was a soccer team that
was getting more peoples in the seats in the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was like five and six the house and people,
you know, it's I'm not talking about LA in New York.
I'm talking about the smaller marketing. You know, he had Milwaukee,
No Almo was going.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
To see and now they're the hottest ticket in town.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right So there is a historical parallel here. It's not
going to happen overnight, but they are definitely they as
in WNBA players, they're about to get paid. And for
those who are are angry about the shirts of the
All Star Game talking about payous.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
They just don't understand the numbers. They don't get people
don't read. I want to say one more thing about
ice Cube, though.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
The other thing that bothers me about this ice Cube
has long been this man that has exalted himself as
a pro black man, who is about black people and
is about his community. So why he took this moment
to say anything disparaging about a black woman bothers me.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Here's what bothers me about what Cube did. He based
it around statements that Angel Reice made a year ago.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Right, but out of context though, because she didn't say
that she couldn't pay her bills. She said based on
her WNBA salary alone, which she said, if that was
all I had to live on, I couldn't pay my bills.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And that's not all the money she's getting.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
But she's also speaking on behalf of the players correct
don't have the endorsement income, who don't have the ability
to supplement their income, and that goes back to Britney Grinder,
while people were playing overseas to supplement their income and
because the WNBA was not paying them enough.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So what's the lesson here? Read before you speak.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's later with mo Kelly when we come back. Jackie Wray,
I don't want you to leave yet, because there is
this new trend and term going around talking about mankeeping
where some women are upset because they are seen as
having to take care of men in a therapeutic sense
and they're I'm sorry, I mean to Lee, I'm rather offended,
(16:52):
but we'll get into it. If I answers forty, we
live everywhere in my Heart Radio Webb.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And this
next story, Twala gave it to me and I was
reading this, it just made me matter. The more I
read it, the further I got into it, the more
angry I became because I'm thinking, like, this can't be real,
but it is real. There is a new i'll say
(17:29):
psychological psychotherapy term which is making its way around social media,
and it's called man keeping. Man keeping it just sounds
just real disrespectful because it is. It describes the work
women do to meet the social and emotional needs of
(17:50):
men in their lives, from supporting their partners through daily
challenges and inner turmoil to encouraging them to meet up
with their friends. Well, it just makes us like, are
we just helpless or something? Are you like, is that
another word for new mother? You're saying men can't function
without women? Is that what this article is trying to say?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I mean, there's not a women loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
In a twenty twenty one survey, fifteen percent of men
said they didn't have any close friends, up from three
percent in nineteen ninety. Who the hell did they ask?
The same report showed that in nineteen ninety, nearly half
of young men say they would reach out to friends
when facing a personal issue. Two decades later, just over
twenty twenty to two thirds percent said the same. According
(18:43):
to Somebody Women Quote, women tended to have all of
these nodes of support they were going to for problems,
whereas men were more likely to just be going to them.
You know, this is what I think, and this is
going to sound very sexist. I think men play the
role of opening up for the benefit of getting with
(19:04):
a woman. They're fake opening up, They're not actually opening up,
because why is it a man is just going to
tell all of his deep seated issues and problems.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So, no, we don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
We're not built that way. Look at Mark Ronner. You
think he talks to the long suffering one and tells
all his deep, dark secrets. Look at Tony so Torentino.
He doesn't talk to women, not like that. At least
Tony am I wrong. It's radio. You have to actually
turn your mike. I know. Uh now, I just keep
(19:42):
to myself.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
You Mark, am I wrong? I don't really want to
be dragged into your filth there. If you just proceed
without me, dig your own grave.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
All I'm saying is men were not built that way. Now.
Can we open up under the right circumstances. Yes, but
we're not emotionally dependent on women now more so than
twenty five years ago. That's BS. It's BS. And they
want to ascribe a term to it. They want to
emasculate us and say men keeping. Men have to be kept.
(20:14):
They're emotionally fragile. They don't know who to talk to,
they don't know where to turn. This is this is
not real.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
What is this?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
This is from the New York Times. Okay, it's fake news.
Male social disconnection this is This is from the article
male social disconnection is a larger problem. Rather than viewing
man keeping as an Internet approved bit of therapy speak
used to dump on straight men, experts said, you know,
experts whoever they are, experts said they see it as
a term that can help sound the alarm about the
(20:49):
need for men to invest emotionally in friendships. You have
got to be.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Kidding, because if you're not talking to your girl then
and you're not talking to your guys. What are you
talking to?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Okay, we talk to ourselves all the time. I'm in
the shower and I said, I can't believe this mother
father did What If I see so and so at
the job, We're going to have a misunderstanding. And I
feel better Why because I'm not being interrupted like my
wife always does. I get to finish my thoughts. I
(21:28):
get to have a whole, full on conversation and I'm
respected and my thoughts are respected. Not everything needs to
be shared with everyone.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Okay, Look that sounds like pent up energy when you
don't let that out.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And I think that the.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Best part of life is wisdom and knowing when to
say certain things and knowing to whom you should and
should not say certain things. Not everything needs to be said.
Everything I think about Twala. I'm not sharing with Twala. Okay,
that's my man fifty grand, But I need to say everything.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I feel that when people in the check could profit
from that thought process, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Eric Loasardo in the chat says, Moe doth protest too much? Protesting? No, No,
I have no problem. If you, as a man feel
more comfortable bearing your soul to whatever woman is in
your life, and God bless you. I take issue with
the idea that men are somehow suffering more in twenty
(22:28):
twenty five, or we're more emotionally immature and underdeveloped, but
we can't handle our emotions. We're just mostly infantile and
we don't know how to handle emotions in the twenty
first century.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
But can we agree that most men are listen to me,
listen to most men have a lower emotional IQ than women.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Can we not agree about that emotion?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You say that our EQ is lower?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Your IQ, your emotional IQQ. Okay, it's lower, yeah, exponentially.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, we're not going to know.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But that's just proving my point.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We're you said, care we agree? No, we can't.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You can't agree.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
You just said that you would rather have a conversation
with yourself in the shower. And you don't think that
your emotional IQ might be lower than your wife?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, no, no, absolutely not, because my wife is far
less delicate than I am. As far as nuance and
understanding someone else's feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That sounds made up.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
It's accurate, though, Oh my god, you know it is
part of our nature to be nurturing.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Care that is exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Not necessarily is your part of your nature to not
leave us alone. It's part of your nature to not
know when to stop talking. If I could just get
women to understand sometimes just stop talking, just just stop credation,
just stop talking. For example, there are days, and this
is for women, there are days when your man comes home.
(24:00):
He doesn't want to hear anything about anything. Don't ask them,
So tell me about your day. So how I die. No,
just because he walks in the door, that is not
an opportunity to start a conversation. Sometimes a man just
wants to be able to come in, sit down, maybe
have a beverage, and be alone in his thoughts, and
(24:21):
then he'll re emerge from his emotional cave a little
bit later on. But yup, you guys talk about emotional
intelligence and IQ. You don't necessarily recognize when there's a
time to stop talking.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, Jeff, go ahead, listen, go ahead, that's communication. Hey babe,
I know you're excited to talk to me, but just
give me a couple of minutes to debrief. I had
a hard day at work, and then we could talk
in like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And I've done that, and I get I get a
lot of flak for that. Oh, get called in sensitive
or or its like you don't know how to communicate. No,
I communicated that I don't want to communicate.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I mean I feel that there's you know, Conversely, when
I've been in a relationship and I've had a partner
come home, there have been times when he's come home
and I've looked at the clock and I'm like, oh,
he about to get here.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I just don't want to be in his company.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That's not to say anything about him per se, but
I just I'm a loner at heart, and so maybe
that's what's happening. I think these are two different things.
I'm a loner at heart. I like to be by myself.
I enjoy my own company.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Eric Losarto says on the Motown Chap YouTube, Wow, did
missus Mo lose her hearing today? No, she's not listening
to this show. She knows I'm right anyhow, And just
me says mister Mo Kelly, you better choose your words wisely.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Just saying I think he passed on.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
You know why I think he passed that because I'm
the man of my house. I have nothing to worry about.
I am ruler of all. I survey.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If Moe's not here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It means I chose not to come in, and I
let everyone know my decision. There it is final.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You see his chest, y'all, he done poked his chest
out with his chest.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That's right, real man in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Okay, and yet we've sat here and been pretty quiet
this whole time.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
No eve, y'all were running your mouth the whole segment.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
No, no, no, listen, okay, chat, okay, unleash, release the kracking.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It was James Evans who said, on good times, okad
here we go only two places for ks on do that?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, cut the cameras on the way off today.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want to secretly agree, but if I say something,
I'll go down with no.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
No, no.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
What are you doing right now? What are you doing?
I'm taking the bullet for all the.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
That's not a bullet. That is an a r.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's not helping. You are not helping us. Man keeping
needs to go somewhere. It's not a real thing.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Women knocking up, You're gonna drive around for extra time
tonight and just be in the card.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
You didn't hear the shout?
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Didn't when I get home.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Luckily, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
She's listening right now. She would say, yeah, that's that's
pretty accurate. He says that at home. I'm being serious.
I'm absolutely being serious. Janet Bee on the chat says,
love you, mo see, I am know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
This is her emotionally keeping you right now.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Daryl Sexty says, take it to the hallway. Should we
take it to the hallway?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I think we should.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We're gonna take it to the hallway. Haven't you done enough? Yes,
I'm gonna dig deeper. I gotta shovel and I want
to keep on digging.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, ladies, Remember though, men don't need to be kept right.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Come on, I don't need the protection.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Let me let him use that shovel.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Let me if I am sixty. Look, if you're listening
right now, go to YouTube. That's the easiest way at
Mister bo Kelly will have to continue this conversation in the hallway.
That'll probably be some inappropriate language, some profanity, but a
whole lot of truth. And I'm getting ready to tell
you if I am six forty, We're live everywhere in
n I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty k if I am.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Six forty label Mo Kelly. We're alive everywhere on social
media and n iHeart Radio app and if you saw
us in the hallway, we have a lot of people
who just logged on all that was real. I was
not saying anything that I didn't mean. Twala wasn't saying
anything he didn't mean.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
I'm trying to say, Look, we go to the hall
to keep it real.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's one hundred people like was Mo, like Kitty was No.
I was being absolutely one hundred percent serious. There are
times when I need folks to stop talking, just stop talking.
That is the emotional support that I need to know
when I don't want to hear from you anymore. All right,
let's go to the horoscope. You're Weird and Wild horoscope
(28:52):
for this week aries The individual is ready to explore love,
but be aware a rogue Tuesday banana peel could lead
to a surprise dance with a fire hydrant. What that
sounds wild, I've never danced with a fire hydrant. Don't worry.
The cosmic energy shifts and your quick recovery will impress
someone special. Ensure the dancing partner has good health insurance Taurus,
(29:16):
you feel exceptionally free. You might explore volunteering, but it
could involve offering services as a professional lama whisperer or
a caasee tester for experimental artisan cheeses. Nice. I don't
like chess. I don't like the experimental cheeses. I don't
like the pungent stell Jesus, No, I just keep it simple,
(29:39):
Keep it simple. I need pungent Jemini mark ready. Creativity
is engaged, perhaps a little too much. You could find
yourself attempting to remodel your work desk into a sentient
robot assistant or sounds just like me, doesn't it any yes? Yes?
Or renovating your kitchen to include a self stirring calls
(30:01):
which is it going to be?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I just ordered some material to make some advanced super
health drinks last night. And cauldron. I made a complete
mess out of the kitchen. That's a cauldron. You need
a cauldron to help you not make a message. Yeah,
maybe these there's something to these things after all, and
I've been mocking them for no good reason.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Double double toil, trouble, cauldron burn, What does it go?
What is this cauldron bubble? Something like that cancer. You
may become involved in a confusing romantic situation involving a
shared project and dramatically different ideas about whether a joint
pottery class should focus on functional wear or interpretive sculptures
depicting existential dread. Respond with logic, but feel free to
(30:44):
add a little flare with a well placed dramatic sigh leo.
Patience is rewarded, especially if that patience involves waiting for
the perfect moment to unleash your inner flamboyant performer at
an employ business meeting. Just make sure your brilliant solution
doesn't involve a glitter Bombay you go Carnacian Virgo. Try
(31:08):
a new approach to romance, even if that means letting
a friend set you up on a blind date with
someone who owns twenty seven miniature Schnauzers and communicates primarily
through interpretive dance. You never know, you might discover a
hidden talent for communicating through canine inspired gestures yourself that
should have been mine because I got the Schnauzers. Libra,
(31:28):
you the apple of everyone's eye, But be cautious of
confrontation around Thursday could involve an improblem to wrestling match
over the last slice of cake at the office party.
Your diplomatic skills may be tested, but remember a well
placed compliment about someone's unique frosting choices can go a
very long way. That's oddly specific. Yes, Scorpio, here's yours.
(31:50):
Swallow that's got a bit of romantic discord could turn
into a potentially hot do et. So sing away. Just
be careful that your emotional reactions around this Thursday don't
lead to a spontaneous karaoke battle that accidentally sparks a
minor international incident. And all the years I've known to all,
I've never seen them do karaoke. I can't sing, neither
(32:12):
can most people doing Carrio. No no, no no, I was.
I was literally told that I should not do karaoke anymore.
It was so off. No no I went. I went
actually with my Who did I go with? Who did
I go with? I went with members of my dough jo.
I went.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
It was after a test, was after a belt testing,
and we were all very hype and celebratory, and we
went karaoke.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And one of.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
One of my senior classmates after a carrier they said,
you know she she's from from out of the country. Sisters, Twala,
I thought all black people can sing. Growing growing up
where I grew up, we were taught that all black
people can sing. You cannot. You are proof that the
stereotype is not real. Look at it for a second.
(33:06):
I'm like, it's up a top of it. I'm so
confused right now. And even the karaoke DJ he was
looking at me with such like, get your ass off
the microphone.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But you can rap.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
We've heard that, Yeah, but you know that's not really karaoke.
That's like, no one cares about you wrapping karaoke. Sagittarius
gus me. Even with a foggy path ahead, you're on
the right track.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Just be cautious that if that path in ball's following
a suspiciously cheerful squirrel holding a map to a hidden
treasure chest filled with our artisanal pickles. Your instinct is strong,
but so is your imagination. I don't get it. I
don't get it. Watch the pickle and squirrels and pickles.
It just sounds wrong. Watch the pickles, avoid the squirrels. Tony,
(33:51):
here's capricorn, all right. Connections are extra easy, but your
tendency to be a worry wart could lead you to
overthink a simple coffee into a potential hostile takeover a
date of a small nation. Yeah didn't say was acknowledge
the worry. Then persevere down your path, perhaps with a
side order of extra whipped cream. Sounds kinky.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
Don't go on coffee dates, Tony, I don't like coffee.
You don't need to actually drink coffee in a coffee date.
You can get a botch your child. I don't even
drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
You know where my wife and I first met for
our first date, coffee shop, and I didn't get coffee.
Look at me now, hot cocoa.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
There's lots of things you can get with that whipped cream, Toney, Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Striking the balance between giving and getting may seem complicated,
especially if getting quote unquote involves acquiring a vast collection
of vintage space theme socks. Keep things loose and free
to make romantic discoveries, even if it's a mutual love
for obscure extraterrestrial documentaries. And lastly, Pisces, you've been trapped
(35:03):
in a labyrinth, but finding your way just got simpler.
Find your way out, I should say, just be cautious,
as the solution might involve following a flock of singing
pigeons to a secret passage hidden behind a particularly for
a fragrant pile of cheese. There's cheese again. Embrace the silliness.
It might lead to unexpected joy. And there is your
horoscope for this week. K if I am six forty
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