September 23, 2025 • 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo' Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae, host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighs in on the brewing NCAA gambling scandal and the mystery surrounding Auburn’s men's basketball coach Bruce Pearl stepping down after 11 seasons… PLUS – a look at the Weekend Box Office on KFI AM 640… Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Good Evening, Jackie Ray is always good to see you.
Something we've discussed at length, and I think we've been
ahead of the curve as far as media big picture,
as far as gambling and how it's going to undermine
what we were talking about within the matrix of professional sports,
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but now it's undermining college sports. You probably have seen
the story by now, the n C two A gambling
scandal has widened, with overlapping cases involving at this point
six name schools that are quote unquote coordinated effort by
a group to fix college basketball games. These are players
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who used to play at these schools. They're not named,
but the schools are named. Eastern Michigan Temple, Arizona State,
New Orleans, North Carolina, A and T, and Mississippi Valley State.
All I know is if you name six, there might
be twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'n say, yeah, basically, name everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And I am not at all surprised about this because
we've said this time and time again. When you start
marrying these two entities it's just a matter of time.
And you're talking about young people. I can't ever say
that I did anything nefarious when I was playing ball
in high school and things of that nature, but I
definitely would make wagers, if you will against This has
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been a thing. Kids do this. It's a fun thing
to do. It's a little bit of trash talk. I
could see this easily elevating into something else because of
the financial payout. We are greedy, greedy people.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, there are number of things here. There's the financial payout.
There is the acceptability of gambling in culture. Now, there
are various apps. I don't want to call them my name.
I'm not demonized in the apps, but I am. I'm
saying that gambling has looked upon very differently in our culture,
much more accepted. And there's so much money flowing through
college sports, specifically because of nil name, image and likeness.
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It's not as odd, for example, to see players driving
up in Mercedes Benz or having all sorts of clothes
and everything, because it's not an academic athletic nc TWA
violation anymore. There's a lot of money changing hands, so yes,
they're going to start.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Using it exactly right, it was a very slippery slope
when you started marriaging marrying these two entities anyway, But
I just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I guess what my confusion is about this.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm never confused by the headlines, Like the headlines just
kind of makes sense. I'm a little confused as how
everybody's like, I can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's human nature.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
People have been doing this before it was legal, so
most certainly they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
To do it now that it is.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
This is directly from the story.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The investigation is now between the n C two A
and the players direct This is not just a University
of New Orleans issue. It's a national issue. This is
going on in a lot of places. The NCAA investigation
at Eastern Michigan also dates back to January.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
YadA yad, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
NCAA issued requests for cell phone data for five individuals
whose names are redacted. Eastern Michigan had two games flagged
by gambling watchdogs last season, and you know, again, that's
what they know, That's what they suspect.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
There's probably other.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Less obvious, more subtle instances, questionable results or performances that
might raise people's eyebrowns. But maybe they just got away
with it some of it. But from what we can see,
it's probably pervasive. And for me, I have to ask
myself the question, are we looking at legitimate competition or
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are we looking at something closer to the WWE.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I've been saying closer to the WWE.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And because now you've given people an incentive to do wrong.
And I'm not trying to disparage anybody, but the second
you started having you know, it was a trickle down effect.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The NFL, the NBA.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now you're seeing the like you said, don't want to
name the companies on the sides of arenas or in
stadiums and things of that nature. So you're advertising it,
so you can't say do as I say, not as
I do.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's an unacceptable thing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So I've been saying this and unless you're going to,
how would you even police this?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's my bigger question. How would you police this?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Because you can't not until after that fact, right, there's
nothing you can do. And every time you police it,
however you police it, whatever things you put in play
to kind of monitor what people doing, they will think
of something else.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And you could when I say after the fact, it's
only when you look back and see something that seems odd,
right out of place, or someone went one for twenty
or you know, all of a sudden only played for
two minutes, something which is out of character or against
the pattern. Does it raise anyone's eyebrows, and so you
have to look back, right, you can't catch it in advance.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So now if I do have an injury, are you
suddenly looking at me and seeing, okay, you have this injury.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You've never really been injured like this before.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And now we've got to start watching the It's impossible
to police, like you said, until after the fact. These
students aren't even students anymore. So what's the penalty going
to be?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well for them, it depends if you can prove that
they actually fix games, which is a is a tall
order and that's the right the lift. Yeah, then there
are legal consequences. But the burden of proof, I mean
beyond a reasonable doubt. You have to improve intent, right, you.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Have to prove that they knew, not only that they
try to rig something that they knew it would work.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's just too slippery. It's too slippery. But it's you know, and.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
After a while you have to know that because there's
so much money, there likely is some degree of cheating,
some degree of betting and gambling in some degree of
dishonest sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's the only So do you do create a statisian
that is now looking at every single game?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And oh, I'm sure, I'm sure there's probably statistician algorithms
looking for aberrations anything which seems out of the ordinary.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
But again that's looking back. You have to see it
after the fact.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You know, someone has to deviate from an established norm
for it to catch, you know, to get in up
on someone's radar, to raise suspicion. So, yeah, I believe
that there is a when we've talked about this, there
is a huge sport ruining, ruining, no exaggeration scandal on
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the horizon regarding betting because it is so pervasive. Well
what they're telling us, it's pervasive and it's uncontrollable.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, and then you can end up with players who
might have an injury or maybe they had a bad
day because they lost someone in their family. And now
it looks like it's too slippery of a slope. Maybe
you actually are legitimately hurt or something like that. But
now on that certain.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Day, well, it could be more subtle than that. It
could be just forwarding information. You might have access to
a locker room and know that, hey, there's a big
game today between such and such and such and such,
but I know the center is not going to play.
Why because either I am the center or I might
be a trainer or someone in the locker.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Room to look at media. Right, got a little at
media because we're in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so that information could be passed on, not even
from the player directly, and then that could all of
a sudden be used for all sorts of money being
placed on a game a player that prop bet it's a.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Lot of people that you have to round up and
start monitoring that. I don't know how they do this.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
A couple of NBA players got hit last year. John
tay Parter was bamned.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We talked about Yes, we talked about him too.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And those are the only ones we know of, right,
those are the ones who got caught.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh it's going to get real bad. Oh yeah, and
we're going to tell you I told you so when
it does. When we come back and I don't want
to connect these dots, but I think there's a conversation
to be had because Bruce Pearl, Auburn basketball coach, venerable coach,
has been around for decades, has been very political in
his pronouncements. As of late, all of a sudden, out
(08:12):
of nowhere, said he's stepping down a month before the
season starts. Now, there have been rumors about him possibly
running for political office, but the timing seems suspect. We
want to talk about that when we come back KFI
AM six forty. We're going to Beyond the box Score
with Jackueray. We're live everywhere on YouTube. You can see
Jackie Ray and see me and see the whole show.
(08:33):
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Speaker 1 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Forty KFI Later with mokeln Beyond the box Score with
Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
We're live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. Bruce Pearl,
if you know college basketball, he's a very very famous
basketball coach. He's been pretty successful. He spent most of
his time I think at university at University of Tennessee
with the volunteers. He had three Sweet sixteen appearances, won
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Elite eight run, never won a championship. But he's not
Upper eschlot of coaches listen to this. He was fired
in twenty eleven after being charged by the NC TWOA
with unethical conduct after lying during an investigation into recruiting violations.
I'm gonna put it pin in that because now he
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is the coach of Auburn, or at least for the
next forty five minutes, he's the coach of Auburn. And
then he just announced that he's stepping down as coach
after eleven seasons. And you think, well, coaches retire, Coaches,
you know, quit, but not as weekly. If you don't
know the basketball college basketball schedule, October fifteenth is win
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the season officially begins, where teams can practice together and
start having exhibitions. If you don't know, the coach can't
be around the team at this time. They can't practice yet,
not until October fifteenth. Well, October fifteenth is only twenty
five days away.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yep. Why would you step down now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Unless that there's something serious involved. I don't see any
rumors about some sort of illness. I don't see any
rumors about anything, which gives me great pause because usually
if it's if it's innocuous, then you'd have some sort
of explanation to that fact. My concern, jacuarated, I would
love to get your thoughts on this. My concern is
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that it's a combination of negative things. It's a combination
of maybe something that he said because he's very outspoken,
or something that he's done in regard to maybe recruiting violations,
which is thrown in thrown the program into disarray. You
saw the same story as me, Anything come to mind, So.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
The first thing I thought was illness because I was like, oh,
this is just abruptly. This wouldn't happen if there wasn't
something wrong. I didn't immediately think anything nefarious. But to
your point, the more I read, because as journalists, you
know that you're gonna put if this is your beat,
you know a little something, and if you'd heard anything,
you would have put that in there, right, And so
since I didn't see even sources say this might be
(11:18):
anything like that, then and then his statement was kind
of long that he made himself. So that made me
feel like the organization is protecting their brand and they're
trying to make it look like this is a great thing.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm not thinking about politics.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I've got this other position now, so everything is still
great with me in the organization, I feel like they're
protecting their brand from something.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
For those who don't know, there is a rumor, or
at least was a rumor that he was going to
give it his political pronouncements, that he was possibly going
to run for senator state of Alabama, just like Tommy
Tubberville who was once the Auburn Auburn football coach and
then end up running for senate, that Bruce Pearl may
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do the same thing.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
My thing is this, this is not the time to
do that, as.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Far as time in the season, because you're leaving the
program in the lurch. If it's his decision, You're leaving
the players that you recruited in a lurch. It leaves
enough bad taste in people's mouths. That's not how you
want to launch a senate campaign, right.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And so, because it wasn't anything to do with his
political campaigns, he didn't say anything about illness.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And this would have been the perfect time too.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I am so excited to hand this to my son
as he continues this legacy and we move forward in
this family business, if you will, you could have tied
it in too that in some way, and the fact
that you didn't, and it's abrupt, it's very very abrupt.
And you have to know that fans of the team,
fans of NCAA, they're going to notice that this isn't
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quite right. Because everybody immediately went to social media and said, oh,
he's probably just doing blah blah blah, he's going to
do his Senate run. That's really what it is. And
he said very clearly that's not it. So now we're
all wondering, and because we're wondering, in my opinion, at
least in my experience, when you don't tell the truth
as to why this happened so abruptly, why this couldn't
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happen at a later time, why this had to happen
when young people are looking at you and they believe
in you, and they believe in the program, and that's
why they're here, and now you've turned their back on them.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You've either done something right or you've done something.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It's just a matter of what done something.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean different if he said I'm stepping down and also,
now I'm throwing my hat into the ring to be
Alabama's next senature. That would make more sense to say
I'm abruptly resigning and nobody knows what the frick I'm
getting ready to do. And it says to me, just
from what I've known about athletic programs and violations, usually
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they want to get that coach out of there as
soon as possible, so whatever comes down is attached to
the coach, right and not the program going forward.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
But they're keeping him in a capacity, though I don't
know that's what's throwing me off, if because I do
think they're trying to protect the brand. But and then
they buried that was deep in the story that he's
moving to another capacity, and then his son is there.
I don't know what this is, but it's something I
would even have appreciated it if he said someone close
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to me and my family is ill and I want
to attend to them and take care of them. Because
what's the position he's getting. It's ceremonial or it's a
ceremonial position. It's not like a big deal, but say something.
And you've been in this business for too long to
know that you can't that this is a good time
to not say anything.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And it's okay if you're going to be running for Senate.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
It really is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
In fact, people think that that's your likely next progression
because you've been so outspoken in support of the president
and his policies and other issues unrelated to basketball.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
We always talk.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
About the intersection of sports and politics and how people
want to keep politics out of sports.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Bruce and Pearl. Bruce Pearl was not one of those.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He brought all his politics right into the sport of basketball.
And then now to have nothing to say with these
a always had something to say.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It feels nefarious.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
It feels like somebody's in trouble.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Because now even if this is I'm just dotting every
I and crossing every T before I go into my
political arena, any political reporter work there saut is going
to be like, but we asked you, you said no.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now you started your career with a lie.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You're not wrong, You're not wrong. We have to do
this again next week.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
We'll definitely do it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
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Speaker 5 (15:44):
And let me start with this.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
This is not a top movie, but it's something that
really jumped out at me.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And when I see a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Like Spinal Tap two, the end continues and I'm a
kid who grew up saw you know this is Spinal Tap.
It was like nineteen eighty four, and I didn't think
that the movie deserved or needed a sequel, but hey,
you know, there are enough fans out there it got
a sequel. It actually opened in nineteen hundred theaters last week.
(16:17):
Last week was his first week, This was his second weekend.
The budget was twenty three million dollars after two weeks
in theaters, and you had nineteen hundred theaters. That was
a sizable amount. It's only grossed two million dollars worldwide,
which made me good, which made me again think like,
(16:38):
wait a minute, who was asking for this? And this
would have been perfect. I haven't seen it, but I
suspect it would have been perfect for streaming. Why would
you force that into nineteen hundred movie theaters and also
have to share the profits with the movie theaters as
opposed to just put it on streaming.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Twenty three million dollar budget, they're not going to get
one eighth of that back.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yeah, that's a rite off.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And it brought in a whole three hundred and sixty
one thousand dollars this weekend. The whole weekend, three hundred
thousand across, they lost five hundred theaters, so about maybe
thirteen hundred theaters only brought in.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It wasn't a blockbuster the first time round, so.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's a cult classic, get me wrong, yes, but it
wasn't something that people were clamoring like, oh we got
a we got to have a sequel, we need to
have an update and go watch it in theaters. I
don't know who made that decision, but it just it
didn't make any sense. But anyhow, that just jumped out
of me. Coming in number one this week again, Demon
Slayer absolutely brought in another seventeen million. Its gross is
(17:51):
now up to if this page overloads is five hundred
and fifty five million, it's crossed the billion a half
billion dollar mark. Yeah, and I know what, well, let
me be clear, it's crossed a half billion dollar mark,
having almost nothing to do with the United States market,
four hundred and fifty million of its five hundred and
fifty five million total haul is international, So it's not
(18:13):
a hit here.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It's number one.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
It is a huge hit here. By comparison to anime
film releases. It is the highest grossing anime film released
in the US, and it is one of the first
to be released exclusively on Imax. Like when they put
this one out, it was like, we are doing this
(18:37):
for Imax, and it's one of the first ones to
really get that that real big push by Japan. And
so this is a really, really really big picture, especially
for a market, a film community that is really struggling
because there are so many strikes and there's such strife
within Japan. For the anime community. As far as getting
(18:59):
these films done and getting them made and put out
in all that series and everything, this is a major accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Coming again number two this week. You heard Mark Ronner
review it on Friday as part of the Runner Report,
him starring Marlon Wayans. I've heard I've not seen it yet.
I've heard from a number of people who have seen it,
mostly disappointment. They thought it had potential, but then it
just gets weird and predictable in the third act. Would
(19:28):
you agree with that, Mark, Well, it is weird, but
not good weird. It's like incoherent weird. I think I
compared it to a Cologne commercial with spatter. I hear
good things as far as Marlon Wayn's performance, though.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Oh he's terrific in it. He looks like he's having fun.
But that ain't enough. It's a huge disappointment. I couldn't
wait to get the hell out of there. I gotta
be honest with you. Always painful to sit through.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's hard for me to understand when you have someone
like Jordan Peel who may put his name on something
like this. You would think that as a backstop he
wouldn't allow certain things to happen, or the movie has
to be on a certain level for his name to
be on it. And from what I hear from other people,
it doesn't measure up to what you expect from a
Jordan Peele production.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
It is so disappointing and just such a stinker, like
an outright stinker. I think I mentioned that it's going
to go on my worst of the Year List.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, I mean Jordan Peel. He is in the business
of putting his name on films for projects for people
that he believes otherwise would not get the chance nor
the backing. And he believes in the art. He's like,
you are an artist, and it is for the fans
to see your creation, or maybe they will not. But
(20:39):
if you believe in it, and I believe in you,
let's see what it does. But just no, I'm putting
my name on this because no one else will because
of who you are. I salute him.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
If that is his motivation, I don't think it helps
his brand. It's in thirty one hundred theaters, so that's
wide release, brought in thirteen million.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
That's eh. Let me look up the budget real quick.
It's so bad that it's twenty seven minute. Don't make
his money back.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I mean, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
It's something like the movie you just talked about, the
top Spinal Tap sequel that might have a long cult
film shelf life. This one is going to disappear fast,
I guarantee it, and it really forces you to wonder
if get Out was just a fluke.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's to the point I don't think Justin Peele directed this,
so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
No, he produced it, Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Won't hold him to that same standard, but I will
say that just Jordan Peele needs a hit or he
ends up gowing the way of m Night Shyamalan.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I've seen a lot of comparisons, and this
is such a terrible movie that if you see or
read somebody defending it, you can instantly discount their opinion
on anything.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Ever.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's that's what a roadshock we're looking at.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's too bad. That is really too bad, because I
actually did want to see the movie. I haven't heard
from anyone who said that they really liked it. The
movie itself coming in at number three. The Conjuring Last
Rites is still hanging in there, brought in another twelve
point two million worldwide. It's four hundred million on a
budget of like four dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Those movies are fun.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
They Maybe I'm just saying that the return the ROI
on those movies is the multipliers is ridiculous, always is.
On horror film, Downton Abbey, the Grand Finale came in
number four.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Don't care, We'll never see it.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Well, that really seems to me like you're kind of movie.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No no, No coming in number five, a movie I
did finally get around to seeing The Long Walk.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, you didn't care for it, It was okay, it
was okay.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I took your review into account and put it this
way without giving too much away. These guys are walking
hundreds of miles and somehow finding a way to sleep,
to have energy, to never shut the f up, and
are talking all the way through. And you know, I
(23:12):
was taken a little back by the walking while defecating. Well,
you gotta go, I know, And I get it. I mean,
that's the realism. Part of it is just you know,
there's all wait, they're allowed to sleep, well they kind
of sort couple of walking.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
A couple of the contestants in this grueling contest, uh
sleep while they're walking.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, okay, I don't want to see this.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Right if you if you really want to believe that,
I don't. I don't know anyone could have kept up
that pace for the amount of mileage that they're putting in.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You're you're aware this is a fantasy right now. I
get that.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
It's not a documentary.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
The reason I.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Say that's because when I'm all on the on the treadmill.
I'm doing my walking, yes, and you it. No, I
have never won, but I set it for three miles
an hour. Huh, So I know exactly the speed they're walking.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
And you've never dozed off either. I've never dozed off.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I'm sure as hell would not be able to
keep that pace for some three hundred miles like five
days we're talking about, right, It's unbelievably laughable in that regard.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Well, that's why people are continually being executed, because they
can't maintain that pace.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Were you paying attention the way you watch I was
paying attention.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm saying they all would have died within the first
four hours of the first day.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Well, that would have been a short movie, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I know none of these are trained athletes. They're all
like wearing hiking boots and stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But they're desperate. The desperation is a key aspect of
the plot.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
No, they weren't.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't want to get too much too specific, but
a lot of them were not there because they're desperate.
One was there trying to write a book or make
a movie and some stupid.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Stuff like that. Well, I liked it better than you did.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh, you're just wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Wait, so they're living in a world where this US
government says, yes, you can walk a bunch of young
men for a mile.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
It's like a civil war or something. They don't give
you all the specifics.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And then this is like a sort of like a
nationalism pride thing where these single men, for the most part,
they walk to show their pride. And if you're the
last one standing, you get a whole lot of money.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Supposedly they grant one wish of whatever you want if
you're the lone survivor.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Kind of the Hunger Games, but walking.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But but not not as not as ingenius successy.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, there's nothing entertaining.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Odds were never in their favor. Boo, you showed me
horoscope when we come back.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
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Speaker 5 (25:47):
Stop the music, Stop the music. Oh I thought we
just got raptured. Everyone's still here, still here, Tally's stare
out of here.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
No no, no, no, no, I'm here. It's Daniel still.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
There's someone check on gameel make sure he didn't get raptured,
because if he got raptured and I didn't get raptured.
Whether if no, the video the video is still up, Yeah,
the video still but he may not be there. No,
he's running it. Wait, Daniel, come in here. No, no, he
can see you. Daniel's not responding, he's not So if
that means he got raptured and I got left here?
Ooh that's not no, that's that's not cool. We're on
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rapture Daniel Daniel. Maybe they're doing it alphabetically. Oh snap,
I heard him laugh in the back with that one.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, so that means he's still here. Okay's live any
al right?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right, start to music. I don't know if we're
gonna get to actual horoscope. Let's start to music one time?
Kay if I later with mo Kelly Live Everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app, it's rapped your watch on Later with
mo Kelly. So if the rapture should happen to come,
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we'll be the first to tell you or we won't.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
One way or the other.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You'll find out because we're on Rapture Watch. So we're
like really really over, so we don't have any time
to read anybody's horoscope.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Oh okay?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh Mark you're Gemini, I'll read yours. Okay, you talk
to everyone, but listen to no one. Oh well, let's
have the rest of it. Charming, absolutely witty, without question.
But for all your social butterfly energy, Gemini, you have
a hard time actually connecting. You flip from conversation to
(27:32):
conversation like you're sampling snacks at a party, never staying
long enough to truly nourish or be nourished. Deep down,
I think you're scared of being known because being known
means being vulnerable, and being vulnerable that's not in your script.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
This is the first true one you've ever read.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Try staying still with someone long enough to be understood.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Wow, you're blowing my mind.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Man, doctor Sam, what's your Taurus? Taurus? I can't find
out where this is all right? Here it is Carus.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You cling to comfort, like at your birthright. Security is
your sacred word. But let's be real, Taurus. Sometimes it's
just stubbornness wearing a cozy sweater. You resist change, not
because it's bad, but because it asks you to be uncomfortable,
and you hate being uncomfortable more than anything. But growth
doesn't happen in your favorite chair. It happens when you
leave the house emotionally, spiritually, sometimes literally. Your comfort zone
(28:22):
isn't a fortress, it's a cage.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Look at how I dress. I am a creature of comfort. No,
I have too, I'm a creature of comfort and habit
a twall. Your scorpio, you confuse control with intimacy. Scorpio,
you feel things so deeply it scares you. So instead
of letting people in, you monitor them, test them, play
emotional chess, just to see who flinches first.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Here's the hard truth. Control is not the same as closeness.
Damn guardedness is in power. It's fear in disguise. You
crave loyalty, but you sabotage it every single time. Assuming
betrayal is inevitable. Trusting someone doesn't make you weak, it
makes you human. Hey hey, stop, that's a little too real.
It's like they did a mind meld with him. Stop
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attacking us. Here's Sagittarius, this is me. You run from
anything that looks like commitment. You love your freedom, your wild,
untamed spirit. You're no one can hold me down. Energy,
But Sagittarius, not every form of structure is a prison.
Not every deep bond is a threat to your autonomy.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
The truth.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You often run not because you're adventurous, but because you're
terrified of staying, of sitting with real emotion, of witnessing
someone else's pain without fleeing the scene. Freedom means nothing
if you're too afraid to be present.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I think you'll like to be held down. I just
like to be held Stay out of the news booth.
We're still on rapt or watch. We're still here. I
can't leave all my stuffs here.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
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you know, on the other side. Oh, I like my
stuff here. Well, that does not how a rapture works.
Mark milk and honey rivers of it.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Adults shouldn't drink gold. Listen to me, no matter what
Rfk Junior says. Adults should not drink milk, especially not
raw milk.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Well, at least he can pronounce milk as at a minimum.
Is that.
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You can't get behind that.
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Good Evening, Jackie Ray is always good to see you.
Something we've discussed at length, and I think we've been
ahead of the curve as far as media big picture,
as far as gambling and how it's going to undermine
what we were talking about within the matrix of professional sports,
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but now it's undermining college sports. You probably have seen
the story by now, the n C two A gambling
scandal has widened, with overlapping cases involving at this point
six name schools that are quote unquote coordinated effort by
a group to fix college basketball games. These are players
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who used to play at these schools. They're not named,
but the schools are named. Eastern Michigan Temple, Arizona State,
New Orleans, North Carolina, A and T, and Mississippi Valley State.
All I know is if you name six, there might
be twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'n say, yeah, basically, name everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
And I am not at all surprised about this because
we've said this time and time again. When you start
marrying these two entities it's just a matter of time.
And you're talking about young people. I can't ever say
that I did anything nefarious when I was playing ball
in high school and things of that nature, but I
definitely would make wagers, if you will against This has
(01:38):
been a thing. Kids do this. It's a fun thing
to do. It's a little bit of trash talk. I
could see this easily elevating into something else because of
the financial payout. We are greedy, greedy people.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, there are number of things here. There's the financial payout.
There is the acceptability of gambling in culture. Now, there
are various apps. I don't want to call them my name.
I'm not demonized in the apps, but I am. I'm
saying that gambling has looked upon very differently in our culture,
much more accepted. And there's so much money flowing through
college sports, specifically because of nil name, image and likeness.
(02:12):
It's not as odd, for example, to see players driving
up in Mercedes Benz or having all sorts of clothes
and everything, because it's not an academic athletic nc TWA
violation anymore. There's a lot of money changing hands, so yes,
they're going to start.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Using it exactly right, it was a very slippery slope
when you started marriaging marrying these two entities anyway, But
I just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I guess what my confusion is about this.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm never confused by the headlines, Like the headlines just
kind of makes sense. I'm a little confused as how
everybody's like, I can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's human nature.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
People have been doing this before it was legal, so
most certainly they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
To do it now that it is.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
This is directly from the story.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The investigation is now between the n C two A
and the players direct This is not just a University
of New Orleans issue. It's a national issue. This is
going on in a lot of places. The NCAA investigation
at Eastern Michigan also dates back to January.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
YadA yad, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
NCAA issued requests for cell phone data for five individuals
whose names are redacted. Eastern Michigan had two games flagged
by gambling watchdogs last season, and you know, again, that's
what they know, That's what they suspect.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
There's probably other.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Less obvious, more subtle instances, questionable results or performances that
might raise people's eyebrowns. But maybe they just got away
with it some of it. But from what we can see,
it's probably pervasive. And for me, I have to ask
myself the question, are we looking at legitimate competition or
(03:52):
are we looking at something closer to the WWE.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I've been saying closer to the WWE.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And because now you've given people an incentive to do wrong.
And I'm not trying to disparage anybody, but the second
you started having you know, it was a trickle down effect.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The NFL, the NBA.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now you're seeing the like you said, don't want to
name the companies on the sides of arenas or in
stadiums and things of that nature. So you're advertising it,
so you can't say do as I say, not as
I do.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's an unacceptable thing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So I've been saying this and unless you're going to,
how would you even police this?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's my bigger question. How would you police this?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Because you can't not until after that fact, right, there's
nothing you can do. And every time you police it,
however you police it, whatever things you put in play
to kind of monitor what people doing, they will think
of something else.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And you could when I say after the fact, it's
only when you look back and see something that seems odd,
right out of place, or someone went one for twenty
or you know, all of a sudden only played for
two minutes, something which is out of character or against
the pattern. Does it raise anyone's eyebrows, and so you
have to look back, right, you can't catch it in advance.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So now if I do have an injury, are you
suddenly looking at me and seeing, okay, you have this injury.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You've never really been injured like this before.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And now we've got to start watching the It's impossible
to police, like you said, until after the fact. These
students aren't even students anymore. So what's the penalty going
to be?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well for them, it depends if you can prove that
they actually fix games, which is a is a tall
order and that's the right the lift. Yeah, then there
are legal consequences. But the burden of proof, I mean
beyond a reasonable doubt. You have to improve intent, right, you.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Have to prove that they knew, not only that they
try to rig something that they knew it would work.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's just too slippery. It's too slippery. But it's you know, and.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
After a while you have to know that because there's
so much money, there likely is some degree of cheating,
some degree of betting and gambling in some degree of
dishonest sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's the only So do you do create a statisian
that is now looking at every single game?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And oh, I'm sure, I'm sure there's probably statistician algorithms
looking for aberrations anything which seems out of the ordinary.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
But again that's looking back. You have to see it
after the fact.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You know, someone has to deviate from an established norm
for it to catch, you know, to get in up
on someone's radar, to raise suspicion. So, yeah, I believe
that there is a when we've talked about this, there
is a huge sport ruining, ruining, no exaggeration scandal on
(06:38):
the horizon regarding betting because it is so pervasive. Well
what they're telling us, it's pervasive and it's uncontrollable.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, and then you can end up with players who
might have an injury or maybe they had a bad
day because they lost someone in their family. And now
it looks like it's too slippery of a slope. Maybe
you actually are legitimately hurt or something like that. But
now on that certain.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Day, well, it could be more subtle than that. It
could be just forwarding information. You might have access to
a locker room and know that, hey, there's a big
game today between such and such and such and such,
but I know the center is not going to play.
Why because either I am the center or I might
be a trainer or someone in the locker.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Room to look at media. Right, got a little at
media because we're in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And so that information could be passed on, not even
from the player directly, and then that could all of
a sudden be used for all sorts of money being
placed on a game a player that prop bet it's a.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Lot of people that you have to round up and
start monitoring that. I don't know how they do this.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
A couple of NBA players got hit last year. John
tay Parter was bamned.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We talked about Yes, we talked about him too.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And those are the only ones we know of, right,
those are the ones who got caught.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh it's going to get real bad. Oh yeah, and
we're going to tell you I told you so when
it does. When we come back and I don't want
to connect these dots, but I think there's a conversation
to be had because Bruce Pearl, Auburn basketball coach, venerable coach,
has been around for decades, has been very political in
his pronouncements. As of late, all of a sudden, out
(08:12):
of nowhere, said he's stepping down a month before the
season starts. Now, there have been rumors about him possibly
running for political office, but the timing seems suspect. We
want to talk about that when we come back KFI
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Forty KFI Later with mokeln Beyond the box Score with
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Speaker 2 (08:51):
We're live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. Bruce Pearl,
if you know college basketball, he's a very very famous
basketball coach. He's been pretty successful. He spent most of
his time I think at university at University of Tennessee
with the volunteers. He had three Sweet sixteen appearances, won
(09:11):
Elite eight run, never won a championship. But he's not
Upper eschlot of coaches listen to this. He was fired
in twenty eleven after being charged by the NC TWOA
with unethical conduct after lying during an investigation into recruiting violations.
I'm gonna put it pin in that because now he
(09:32):
is the coach of Auburn, or at least for the
next forty five minutes, he's the coach of Auburn. And
then he just announced that he's stepping down as coach
after eleven seasons. And you think, well, coaches retire, Coaches,
you know, quit, but not as weekly. If you don't
know the basketball college basketball schedule, October fifteenth is win
(09:53):
the season officially begins, where teams can practice together and
start having exhibitions. If you don't know, the coach can't
be around the team at this time. They can't practice yet,
not until October fifteenth. Well, October fifteenth is only twenty
five days away.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yep. Why would you step down now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Unless that there's something serious involved. I don't see any
rumors about some sort of illness. I don't see any
rumors about anything, which gives me great pause because usually
if it's if it's innocuous, then you'd have some sort
of explanation to that fact. My concern, jacuarated, I would
love to get your thoughts on this. My concern is
(10:35):
that it's a combination of negative things. It's a combination
of maybe something that he said because he's very outspoken,
or something that he's done in regard to maybe recruiting violations,
which is thrown in thrown the program into disarray. You
saw the same story as me, Anything come to mind, So.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
The first thing I thought was illness because I was like, oh,
this is just abruptly. This wouldn't happen if there wasn't
something wrong. I didn't immediately think anything nefarious. But to
your point, the more I read, because as journalists, you
know that you're gonna put if this is your beat,
you know a little something, and if you'd heard anything,
you would have put that in there, right, And so
since I didn't see even sources say this might be
(11:18):
anything like that, then and then his statement was kind
of long that he made himself. So that made me
feel like the organization is protecting their brand and they're
trying to make it look like this is a great thing.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm not thinking about politics.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I've got this other position now, so everything is still
great with me in the organization, I feel like they're
protecting their brand from something.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
For those who don't know, there is a rumor, or
at least was a rumor that he was going to
give it his political pronouncements, that he was possibly going
to run for senator state of Alabama, just like Tommy
Tubberville who was once the Auburn Auburn football coach and
then end up running for senate, that Bruce Pearl may
(11:56):
do the same thing.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
My thing is this, this is not the time to
do that, as.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Far as time in the season, because you're leaving the
program in the lurch. If it's his decision, You're leaving
the players that you recruited in a lurch. It leaves
enough bad taste in people's mouths. That's not how you
want to launch a senate campaign, right.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And so, because it wasn't anything to do with his
political campaigns, he didn't say anything about illness.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And this would have been the perfect time too.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I am so excited to hand this to my son
as he continues this legacy and we move forward in
this family business, if you will, you could have tied
it in too that in some way, and the fact
that you didn't, and it's abrupt, it's very very abrupt.
And you have to know that fans of the team,
fans of NCAA, they're going to notice that this isn't
(12:42):
quite right. Because everybody immediately went to social media and said, oh,
he's probably just doing blah blah blah, he's going to
do his Senate run. That's really what it is. And
he said very clearly that's not it. So now we're
all wondering, and because we're wondering, in my opinion, at
least in my experience, when you don't tell the truth
as to why this happened so abruptly, why this couldn't
(13:03):
happen at a later time, why this had to happen
when young people are looking at you and they believe
in you, and they believe in the program, and that's
why they're here, and now you've turned their back on them.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You've either done something right or you've done something.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It's just a matter of what done something.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean different if he said I'm stepping down and also,
now I'm throwing my hat into the ring to be
Alabama's next senature. That would make more sense to say
I'm abruptly resigning and nobody knows what the frick I'm
getting ready to do. And it says to me, just
from what I've known about athletic programs and violations, usually
(13:42):
they want to get that coach out of there as
soon as possible, so whatever comes down is attached to
the coach, right and not the program going forward.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
But they're keeping him in a capacity, though I don't
know that's what's throwing me off, if because I do
think they're trying to protect the brand. But and then
they buried that was deep in the story that he's
moving to another capacity, and then his son is there.
I don't know what this is, but it's something I
would even have appreciated it if he said someone close
(14:11):
to me and my family is ill and I want
to attend to them and take care of them. Because
what's the position he's getting. It's ceremonial or it's a
ceremonial position. It's not like a big deal, but say something.
And you've been in this business for too long to
know that you can't that this is a good time
to not say anything.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And it's okay if you're going to be running for Senate.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
It really is okay.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
In fact, people think that that's your likely next progression
because you've been so outspoken in support of the president
and his policies and other issues unrelated to basketball.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
We always talk.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
About the intersection of sports and politics and how people
want to keep politics out of sports.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Bruce and Pearl. Bruce Pearl was not one of those.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He brought all his politics right into the sport of basketball.
And then now to have nothing to say with these
a always had something to say.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It feels nefarious.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
It feels like somebody's in trouble.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Because now even if this is I'm just dotting every
I and crossing every T before I go into my
political arena, any political reporter work there saut is going
to be like, but we asked you, you said no.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now you started your career with a lie.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You're not wrong, You're not wrong. We have to do
this again next week.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
We'll definitely do it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
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Speaker 5 (15:44):
And let me start with this.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
This is not a top movie, but it's something that
really jumped out at me.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And when I see a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Like Spinal Tap two, the end continues and I'm a
kid who grew up saw you know this is Spinal Tap.
It was like nineteen eighty four, and I didn't think
that the movie deserved or needed a sequel, but hey,
you know, there are enough fans out there it got
a sequel. It actually opened in nineteen hundred theaters last week.
(16:17):
Last week was his first week, This was his second weekend.
The budget was twenty three million dollars after two weeks
in theaters, and you had nineteen hundred theaters. That was
a sizable amount. It's only grossed two million dollars worldwide,
which made me good, which made me again think like,
(16:38):
wait a minute, who was asking for this? And this
would have been perfect. I haven't seen it, but I
suspect it would have been perfect for streaming. Why would
you force that into nineteen hundred movie theaters and also
have to share the profits with the movie theaters as
opposed to just put it on streaming.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Twenty three million dollar budget, they're not going to get
one eighth of that back.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yeah, that's a rite off.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And it brought in a whole three hundred and sixty
one thousand dollars this weekend. The whole weekend, three hundred
thousand across, they lost five hundred theaters, so about maybe
thirteen hundred theaters only brought in.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It wasn't a blockbuster the first time round, so.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
It wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's a cult classic, get me wrong, yes, but it
wasn't something that people were clamoring like, oh we got
a we got to have a sequel, we need to
have an update and go watch it in theaters. I
don't know who made that decision, but it just it
didn't make any sense. But anyhow, that just jumped out
of me. Coming in number one this week again, Demon
Slayer absolutely brought in another seventeen million. Its gross is
(17:51):
now up to if this page overloads is five hundred
and fifty five million, it's crossed the billion a half
billion dollar mark. Yeah, and I know what, well, let
me be clear, it's crossed a half billion dollar mark,
having almost nothing to do with the United States market,
four hundred and fifty million of its five hundred and
fifty five million total haul is international, So it's not
(18:13):
a hit here.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It's number one.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
It is a huge hit here. By comparison to anime
film releases. It is the highest grossing anime film released
in the US, and it is one of the first
to be released exclusively on Imax. Like when they put
this one out, it was like, we are doing this
(18:37):
for Imax, and it's one of the first ones to
really get that that real big push by Japan. And
so this is a really, really really big picture, especially
for a market, a film community that is really struggling
because there are so many strikes and there's such strife
within Japan. For the anime community. As far as getting
(18:59):
these films done and getting them made and put out
in all that series and everything, this is a major accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Coming again number two this week. You heard Mark Ronner
review it on Friday as part of the Runner Report,
him starring Marlon Wayans. I've heard I've not seen it yet.
I've heard from a number of people who have seen it,
mostly disappointment. They thought it had potential, but then it
just gets weird and predictable in the third act. Would
(19:28):
you agree with that, Mark, Well, it is weird, but
not good weird. It's like incoherent weird. I think I
compared it to a Cologne commercial with spatter. I hear
good things as far as Marlon Wayn's performance, though.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Oh he's terrific in it. He looks like he's having fun.
But that ain't enough. It's a huge disappointment. I couldn't
wait to get the hell out of there. I gotta
be honest with you. Always painful to sit through.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's hard for me to understand when you have someone
like Jordan Peel who may put his name on something
like this. You would think that as a backstop he
wouldn't allow certain things to happen, or the movie has
to be on a certain level for his name to
be on it. And from what I hear from other people,
it doesn't measure up to what you expect from a
Jordan Peele production.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
It is so disappointing and just such a stinker, like
an outright stinker. I think I mentioned that it's going
to go on my worst of the Year List.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, I mean Jordan Peel. He is in the business
of putting his name on films for projects for people
that he believes otherwise would not get the chance nor
the backing. And he believes in the art. He's like,
you are an artist, and it is for the fans
to see your creation, or maybe they will not. But
(20:39):
if you believe in it, and I believe in you,
let's see what it does. But just no, I'm putting
my name on this because no one else will because
of who you are. I salute him.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
If that is his motivation, I don't think it helps
his brand. It's in thirty one hundred theaters, so that's
wide release, brought in thirteen million.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
That's eh. Let me look up the budget real quick.
It's so bad that it's twenty seven minute. Don't make
his money back.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
I mean, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
It's something like the movie you just talked about, the
top Spinal Tap sequel that might have a long cult
film shelf life. This one is going to disappear fast,
I guarantee it, and it really forces you to wonder
if get Out was just a fluke.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's to the point I don't think Justin Peele directed this,
so I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
No, he produced it, Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Won't hold him to that same standard, but I will
say that just Jordan Peele needs a hit or he
ends up gowing the way of m Night Shyamalan.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I've seen a lot of comparisons, and this
is such a terrible movie that if you see or
read somebody defending it, you can instantly discount their opinion
on anything.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Ever.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's that's what a roadshock we're looking at.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's too bad. That is really too bad, because I
actually did want to see the movie. I haven't heard
from anyone who said that they really liked it. The
movie itself coming in at number three. The Conjuring Last
Rites is still hanging in there, brought in another twelve
point two million worldwide. It's four hundred million on a
budget of like four dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Those movies are fun.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
They Maybe I'm just saying that the return the ROI
on those movies is the multipliers is ridiculous, always is.
On horror film, Downton Abbey, the Grand Finale came in
number four.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Don't care, We'll never see it.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Well, that really seems to me like you're kind of movie.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No no, No coming in number five, a movie I
did finally get around to seeing The Long Walk.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, you didn't care for it, It was okay, it
was okay.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I took your review into account and put it this
way without giving too much away. These guys are walking
hundreds of miles and somehow finding a way to sleep,
to have energy, to never shut the f up, and
are talking all the way through. And you know, I
(23:12):
was taken a little back by the walking while defecating. Well,
you gotta go, I know, And I get it. I mean,
that's the realism. Part of it is just you know,
there's all wait, they're allowed to sleep, well they kind
of sort couple of walking.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
A couple of the contestants in this grueling contest, uh
sleep while they're walking.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, okay, I don't want to see this.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Right if you if you really want to believe that,
I don't. I don't know anyone could have kept up
that pace for the amount of mileage that they're putting in.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You're you're aware this is a fantasy right now. I
get that.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
It's not a documentary.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
The reason I.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Say that's because when I'm all on the on the treadmill.
I'm doing my walking, yes, and you it. No, I
have never won, but I set it for three miles
an hour. Huh, So I know exactly the speed they're walking.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
And you've never dozed off either. I've never dozed off.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And I'm sure as hell would not be able to
keep that pace for some three hundred miles like five
days we're talking about, right, It's unbelievably laughable in that regard.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Well, that's why people are continually being executed, because they
can't maintain that pace.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Were you paying attention the way you watch I was
paying attention.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm saying they all would have died within the first
four hours of the first day.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Well, that would have been a short movie, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
I know none of these are trained athletes. They're all
like wearing hiking boots and stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But they're desperate. The desperation is a key aspect of
the plot.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
No, they weren't.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't want to get too much too specific, but
a lot of them were not there because they're desperate.
One was there trying to write a book or make
a movie and some stupid.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Stuff like that. Well, I liked it better than you did.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh, you're just wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Wait, so they're living in a world where this US
government says, yes, you can walk a bunch of young
men for a mile.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
It's like a civil war or something. They don't give
you all the specifics.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And then this is like a sort of like a
nationalism pride thing where these single men, for the most part,
they walk to show their pride. And if you're the
last one standing, you get a whole lot of money.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Supposedly they grant one wish of whatever you want if
you're the lone survivor.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Kind of the Hunger Games, but walking.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But but not not as not as ingenius successy.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, there's nothing entertaining.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Odds were never in their favor. Boo, you showed me
horoscope when we come back.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Stop the music, Stop the music. Oh I thought we
just got raptured. Everyone's still here, still here, Tally's stare
out of here.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
No no, no, no, no, I'm here. It's Daniel still.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
There's someone check on gameel make sure he didn't get raptured,
because if he got raptured and I didn't get raptured.
Whether if no, the video the video is still up, Yeah,
the video still but he may not be there. No,
he's running it. Wait, Daniel, come in here. No, no, he
can see you. Daniel's not responding, he's not So if
that means he got raptured and I got left here?
Ooh that's not no, that's that's not cool. We're on
(26:23):
rapture Daniel Daniel. Maybe they're doing it alphabetically. Oh snap,
I heard him laugh in the back with that one.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, so that means he's still here. Okay's live any
al right?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right, start to music. I don't know if we're
gonna get to actual horoscope. Let's start to music one time?
Kay if I later with mo Kelly Live Everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app, it's rapped your watch on Later with
mo Kelly. So if the rapture should happen to come,
(26:57):
we'll be the first to tell you or we won't.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
One way or the other.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You'll find out because we're on Rapture Watch. So we're
like really really over, so we don't have any time
to read anybody's horoscope.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Oh okay?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Uh Mark you're Gemini, I'll read yours. Okay, you talk
to everyone, but listen to no one. Oh well, let's
have the rest of it. Charming, absolutely witty, without question.
But for all your social butterfly energy, Gemini, you have
a hard time actually connecting. You flip from conversation to
(27:32):
conversation like you're sampling snacks at a party, never staying
long enough to truly nourish or be nourished. Deep down,
I think you're scared of being known because being known
means being vulnerable, and being vulnerable that's not in your script.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
This is the first true one you've ever read.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Try staying still with someone long enough to be understood.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Wow, you're blowing my mind.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Man, doctor Sam, what's your Taurus? Taurus? I can't find
out where this is all right? Here it is Carus.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You cling to comfort, like at your birthright. Security is
your sacred word. But let's be real, Taurus. Sometimes it's
just stubbornness wearing a cozy sweater. You resist change, not
because it's bad, but because it asks you to be uncomfortable,
and you hate being uncomfortable more than anything. But growth
doesn't happen in your favorite chair. It happens when you
leave the house emotionally, spiritually, sometimes literally. Your comfort zone
(28:22):
isn't a fortress, it's a cage.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Look at how I dress. I am a creature of comfort. No,
I have too, I'm a creature of comfort and habit
a twall. Your scorpio, you confuse control with intimacy. Scorpio,
you feel things so deeply it scares you. So instead
of letting people in, you monitor them, test them, play
emotional chess, just to see who flinches first.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Here's the hard truth. Control is not the same as closeness.
Damn guardedness is in power. It's fear in disguise. You
crave loyalty, but you sabotage it every single time. Assuming
betrayal is inevitable. Trusting someone doesn't make you weak, it
makes you human. Hey hey, stop, that's a little too real.
It's like they did a mind meld with him. Stop
(29:06):
attacking us. Here's Sagittarius, this is me. You run from
anything that looks like commitment. You love your freedom, your wild,
untamed spirit. You're no one can hold me down. Energy,
But Sagittarius, not every form of structure is a prison.
Not every deep bond is a threat to your autonomy.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
The truth.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You often run not because you're adventurous, but because you're
terrified of staying, of sitting with real emotion, of witnessing
someone else's pain without fleeing the scene. Freedom means nothing
if you're too afraid to be present.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I think you'll like to be held down. I just
like to be held Stay out of the news booth.
We're still on rapt or watch. We're still here. I
can't leave all my stuffs here.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, if you get raptured, you'll find some stuff on,
you know, on the other side. Oh, I like my
stuff here. Well, that does not how a rapture works.
Mark milk and honey rivers of it.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Adults shouldn't drink gold. Listen to me, no matter what
Rfk Junior says. Adults should not drink milk, especially not
raw milk.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Well, at least he can pronounce milk as at a minimum.
Is that.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
You can't get behind that.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Boy, can't im six forty We live everywhere. I heart
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Speaker 1 (30:38):
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