September 30, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Beyond the Box Score’ with regular guest contributor Jackie Rae, host of ‘The Jackie Rae Show,’ weighing in on the announcement of Puerto Rican rapper, singer, and record producer Bad Bunny being chosen to perform at the 2026 Super Bowl LX halftime show AND Stephen A. Smith walks the fine line between sports and politics with his shows…PLUS – A look at the Weekend Box Office AND your weekly Horoscope - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's welcome Jackie Ray back to the show. Jacki Ray
is good to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Good to see you too.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Let's just dive right in the Super Bowl NFL halftime show.
It was announced today Bad Bunny is going to be
the halftime show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Guess.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm not going to preface this in any way. I
just want to hear your thoughts before I give my thoughts.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
So I had to you know, Bad Bunny could be
in the room with us right now. I wouldn't know
who he was. I couldn't tell you nary a song
he's ever done. I have no idea who he is.
I know his name. My first introduction on this story
was obviously the social media buzz and people calling him
a hypocrite. I didn't even know him well enough to
know why they were calling him that, so I had
to do a little bit of a dig. And then
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that's when I found out that he had said that
he wasn't going to do any tour dates on his
twenty twenty five twenty six tour in the Mainland, and FYI,
I was your post and I highly agree. I'm disappointed
in the number of people who don't know you are
an American if you were born in Puerto Rico, that's
a whole other story.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No, No, we're could to get into that as well, Bad
Bunny to further elaborate what you were saying, saying he
did not plan to perform in the continental United States
because of the ice raids, and he was concerned about
fans coming to his concerts and being swept up in
the ice raids.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Fair concern, It's a fair concern.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But also he understands, as someone who was born in
Puerto Rico, America is not the smartest country in the world,
and a lot of people, even today, I had to
explain to too many people that Puerto rican is American, right,
and if you're born in Puerto Rico, you are an American.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Citizen, full stop.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We'll stop.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But people don't understand that. But here was my thing.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I knew of Bad Bunny because of his Corona commercials
with Snoop and other people.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know that was him.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, that's when he hit my radar, but musically he
not on my radar. I believe all of this music
is in Spanish, but this is. I'm more philosophical about
this because if the NFL, and I say the NFL,
but I actually mean jay Z who picks the music
artists correct, And I say this within context of yes,
Taylor Swift declined, Yes, Adele decline, bad Bunny is at
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best or third choice?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
If the NFL slash jay Z thinks that this is
the direction they want to go or this is the
best for them, then who am I to say?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Well, it's not about what you say. It's about the
fact that the NFL has historically said that these artists
are kind of, I don't want to say, coming on
their own dime. But they're not being paid to they're
they're not being paid. Okay, yes, they're not being paid.
I'm giggling because if that's the case, and this is
what I said earlier on another show, if we're if
that's the narrative that we're sticking to, if you're saying,
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as a person of Latin descent, that it's important to
you not to be in a position where you are
jeopardized people who look like you. Why are you performing
at the halftime show? Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I can tell you this, because performing at the halftime
show the Super Bowl, and I need not tell you
it's not like people in the stands will be regular.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Folks for the rest part.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
They got money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's a corporate event.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And also, let's not forget the NFL is savvy enough
to understand they are speaking to a worldwide audience. They
had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven international games
right schedule for this season seven. And we're talking in Brazil, Dublin, Ireland,
and I'm reading this London, Mexico, so all around the world.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It makes sense for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
On Madrid's Madrid.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, two Spanish speaking countries and one Portuguese is still Latino, right,
so we have three countries of Latin heritage.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, it makes sense for the NFL.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But like my dad used to always say, if you
don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything. And so
if he has made this stance that this is his
position and he wants to make sure that people understand
that he cares about people who look like him, then
he's also made the stance that that is up until
a point.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I agree, and it's in contradition to what he said
so far, but I also know then he will probably
use this moment to say something about something to somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Does, then I would argue he does not need that platform.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Maybe, but I know that's what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You're not going to give him that microphone in that
much stage and let's say it's about eleven minutes of
performance time.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, but we all know that the powers that be
are very fond of the president. Everybody and their mama
getting sued about something that they've said about the president.
I would bet my last five dollars that there's going
to be some constraints on what he can say while
he has that halftime infl microphone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And I'm going to use history as a guide. Kendrick
Lamar was told explicitly not to perform. They're not like us,
like us, okay, and he did it anyway with a smile,
and he called out Drake and pedophilia in a halftime
show beautiful okay. So all I'm saying is just because
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you're told don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
So I don't know anything about Bad Bunny. I'm just
full transparency. Kendrick Lamar not adhering to that was very
Kendrick Lamar esque. Is it bad Bunny esque?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think so, if only because he has said enough
publicly prior to this moment where there's a degree of consciousness,
a degree which says to me, he's aware that people
are going to call him a hypocrite or a cellout
or whatever, and there's going to have to be something
when I say, redemptive in his eyes.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So that would be for him to have the opportunity
to use his voice, use that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's the only yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
So he's going to have to in order to make
it make sense. It's going to have to be they
not like us moment and.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, and he'll probably get away with it because I
suspect most of his performance will be in Spanish or
if you look, if you use this music as a guy,
and all of his music in Spanish, but I know
we can speak English. So there's a function of how
much of the show is going to be in Spanish
and what he may try to slide by.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So we're just going to need to get those translation subtitles.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I expect all of that.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But the larger conversation is I don't understand, and this
is more rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't understand why this is even an issue.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It seems like, and you made mention of the NFL
and how the perception of the league is one which
is very supportive of the president the person specifically, not
the president the United States, but Donald Trump the person.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It seems like because Donald Trump was elected, people wrongly
assume that all cultural choices have to be consistent with
the whole make America great again theme, And that's not
the case. I mean, you know, the culture people thought that, well,
this means that Disney's going to do this or ABC
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is going to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, gone with the days.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Of snow white and the race swapping and Jimmy Kimmel,
and that's not been the case where you elected a person,
but that doesn't mean you control the culture.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
True, however, and I've said this before, he is moving
to be as much of a dictator as he can
and if he is going to have a moment to
either say something.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Or oh you mean be at the gate, Yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I very much think he's going to take this opportunity
to because it's not about politics. It's about how he
is seen and everybody's great and his ideas, even though
though he can't say certain words you know, he's he
has lofted himself up as the most intelligent, the all knowing,
and so he's going to be not even if he
he's not there, he's going to be watching, and he's
going to say something that says, if you speak against me,
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you're speaking against America. He's done this before, he's going
to do it again.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What I don't understand is, and I really don't understand
the fixation with the NFL specifically, not for not only
the president, but I'm saying wider culture cycle. I can't
believe they didn't And me personally, I'm surprised they didn't
go in the direction of country music of rock after
Kendrick Lamar. But that's just me personally. But the NFL
is going to do what it's going to do. I
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just don't understand the outrage, the concern. It's like, look,
it's thirty minutes of your life where for the most part,
you're going to be getting something to eat, You've got
to go to the bathroom. You're not even concerned with
the eleven minutes of performance. It's a thirty minute halftime,
but set up and take down, you know, it's thirty
minutes and people want to use this as some measuring
stick of America being woke or not. When it's a
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business decision for the sake of marketing the NFL to
the wider world.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I don't disagree with that as far as an intelligent perspective.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
However, the NFL is predominantly black.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It has been notoriously one of those things where we've
had push and pull. We've had the Rooney Rule, We've
had black people being declined jobs, We've had black men
take a knee. So like it or not, the NFL
is that symbol of are they going to push back.
They have slowed that down as of late for a
plethora of reasons. But that is the reputation of the NFL.
(09:26):
And then Kendrick Lamar coming in in that moment to
your point, I definitely thought we was going to get
like a Kid Rock halftime show. You did counteract that.
So this is a nuanced performance in my opinion. But
that's why everybody is looking at it and to see
what's going to happen, because it has been leading the
charge as far as really taking a stance at some
of the issues that face our country. That has died down.
(09:47):
But that reputation hasn't. So that's why everybody's paying attention
to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well paying attention.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But I'm thinking, like, after a certain point, how many
times can you play the boycott card? You wanted to
boycott the NFL on both sides of the issue regarding
Colin Kaepernick because you thought he was disrespecting the military,
or he didn't go far enough, or what the NFL
did not take him back, all that kind of stuff.
Then you want to to boycott the NFL because of
thee George Floyd protests and they had in racism in
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the in the end zone, and they had you know,
in racism on the helmets a right, how many times
can you say I'm boycott in the NFL before.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You're crying wolf at this point?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Right, because most of these people that are football fans,
their great great grandfather was a fan. It's ingrained in
their system. You're not boycotting, you're just mad. Be mad
in the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And even if you are boycotting, you're not impacting the
bottom line of their nine because they've already sold the
television rights for multi billions of dollars and this is
just up to the networks to recoup that money that
they paid for me.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The best you can do is burn the jersey you're
already paid for.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And the super Bowl commercials they're still going to sell out.
They're gonna be costs more than last season. So they're
two things. One, your boycott is stupid, is not going
to impact anything. But how can you keep boycotting when
you say that you were already boycotting four times ago.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, when you're going to boycott, you have to do
something like we saw in the Jimmy Kimmel situation. It
has to be quick, it has to be efficient, it
has to be immediate.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
A lot of people have to do it.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
But you're just saying to your buddy, like me and
my partner over here, ten of us are going to boycott.
Nobody cares. It doesn't mean anything. Respectfully, of course, I
mean disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I tell people all the time, your boy scouts, whatever,
will we come back? This intersection of sports and politics,
and I think the embodiment of that is Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
He has not one but two new shows on Sirius XM,
and that's in addition to I think he's doing something
on YouTube, and he has obviously all this work for ESPN.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's like he's trying to stay out the house.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, look he's not, like he's married, so he doesn't
have to worry about going home with anyone. But there's
this intersection of sports and politics. There is no line anymore.
So let's right this disabuse ourselves of that notion. When
we come back, let's talk about what Stephen A. Smith
has tried to do and whether we collectively are okay
with it. That's next Beyond the Box with Jackie Ray.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Smith, he recently signed one hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
He's with ESPN. He's the face of ESPN.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
In addition to that, but part of his contract he
was allowed to do media work for companies outside of ESPN.
And so now he has not one, but two different
shows on SiriusXM. And that says nothing of his afternoon
sports show on Mad Dog Sports Radio. He's got a
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lot of shows. He does some he's talking sports. For
most of them, he's talking of sports and there is
at least one show where he's talking nothing but politics.
For the person who's not savvy, and you just see
a Steven A. Smith clip, like, for example, he was
on News Nation with Chris pomer last night talking about
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's just Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You don't make the mental partition like, well, he's only
talking politics here, right, and sports on this other show.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What do you make of the invariable blending, of.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
The blurring of the you know, the separation between sports
and politics that supposedly people want.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, it's you know, I've said this a thousand times.
It is not logical to expect there is a separation
between sports news politics because politics affect people.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
People play sports. It's really that simple.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
And as a person who started in news then just
did sports and now I'm doing both, I actually love
it because you talk to athletes, you talk to them
about different things, you learn different perspectives that they have,
and you're able to share that with the general community.
So I love it. The ESPN's point, I understand. I
understand them saying that's not our brand. We just want
to talk about sports. But Steve has brought up politics
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on ESPN before, he has talked about things that politically
affect players.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's talked about those things.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
So while they are trying to separate and say, Okay,
when he is with us, he's ESPN stephen A.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And when he's over there, he's just over there. That's
not logical.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's not logical.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, you see him when he's not even hosting, right,
you see him on Fox News talking about politics or
the intersection of sports in politics. In other words, I
don't think society. I'm not gonna blame the stephen A spith.
I don't think society can have it both ways, and
I think they're being in insincere. What I mean by
that is people don't and this is on regardless.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Of your political persuasion.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
People don't mind the politics in sports so long as
the sports figure.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Has their politics correct.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
If it's you know, if you're MAGA, you don't mind
Joey Bosa wearing a MAGA hat during a football game interview?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, you don't mind sports and politics like that.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, to be fair, I don't mind him doing that either,
do you. I but you bet and not get mad
at me when I talk about it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But that's what bothers me is like, you say you
don't want politics and sports, just shut up and dribble
with the exception of the folks who.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Mouths your politics.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, So let's just be fair. Let's just call a
spade a spade right now.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
If stephen A, if there was a snowballs chance that
Steven A would told the line that ESPN exects they
themselves told politically, this probably wouldn't be a separation that
they needed.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, I'm not gonna go get in too deep of
what I think ESPN's politics are because there's some people
I know who work over there who are in powerful positions,
and I would be willing to bet it runs counter
to what people believe about the network.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And I don't believe it's always just one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I know how ESPN has tried to present itself, and
I think part of it has to do with the
Disney matrix. Right it is still in that Disney corporate
conglomerate situation where they're not going to have as much
latitude as some of the other properties. We've seen what
has happened with ABC and Jimmy Kimmel. ESPN doesn't want
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any of that.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So the real question I think we really should be
asking is how far behind does this put the networks,
Because if you're saying we want our personalities to tow
the line, we have social media now there are places
that other people can go to get the information that
they want.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
No matter what side your opinion is on.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
There's somebody on social media right now talking about a
topic that you're passionate about. And so if that's because
like it or not, I mean, the addressed elephant in
the room, we're going to have to start talking about
politics through every facet of our life in about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I think it's shorter than that because we know
that the president is going to make a pronouncement about
the NFL and different sports every step of the way.
I was talking to Colin Cowherd, who's now on Fox WORT.
He did tell me part of the reason he left
ESPN because ESPN was so restrictive as far as the
types of subjects he wanted to talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fox Sports is much more loose in that way.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
If you listen to him, he'll talk a little bit
about politics and society. So I get that as far
as the individuals wanted to have a broader.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Subject based to address.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But I think that we're being dishonest as a society
when we're not acknowledging that there's so much happening in
the world today which does not confine itself to just sports,
does not confine itself to just politics.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
When the President shows up at the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
While the President has something to say about the kickoff
rule in the.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
NFL, it's like we're still playing the national anthem at
sporting events.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That is a political statement, you know, like it or not.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There's a history in this country of the intersection of
sports and politics. We had Howard Cosell and Muhammad al Lei,
so we talked about that and listen, I mean, we
can go there's so many situation where politically and politics
and sports crossover.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
People are only accepting of it if it's in their willhouse.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've incited chapter and verse.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
We can talk about Tommy Smith and John Carlos in
the Olympics, just the Olympics. Now we're coming up Olympics
in LA politics. When I say politics, let me just
say social issues. Social issues have always had a prominent
place within the sports landscape, if only because if you
use history as a guide, especially when you talk about
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African Americans, it was a place where African Americans not
only had power, but also had the media access to
have and articulate issues that were important to them which
were not afforded other African Americans. That's why Muhammad Ali,
for example, could talk about the ills of America during
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the nineteen sixties and the Vietnam War the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
That's why Malcolm X said, what other race all of
their leaders are in entertainers, in sports and athletes for that,
because that's all we could get. And anytime you're talking
about the first anything, whether you're talking about the first woman,
first black person, for his LGBTQ prous person, that is
a political statement because you've broken a barrier. So politics
is always going to be a thing because we are
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a nation like it or not. And I know this
might be a political statement. We are not accepting of
everyone here. No, I don't know if y'all knew this.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I am absolutely positive. I bet my last five dollars
on that one.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I'm not going to take that back. History too well,
Jack Ray is always good to see. Oh, very quickly,
in thirty seconds I have with you. We know that
there is an ongoing and burgeoning NBA investigation into Steve Baumer,
the owner of the LA Clippers, and what they did
to sign a Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It wasn't that media day yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, No, very quickly. The story is that Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There's a salary cap in the NBA and you can
only promise players so much amount of money. Allegation is
they tried to circumnavigate the salary cap by paying Kawhi
Leonard off the books with no show jobs like we're
gonna give you four million. You're supposedly doing this job
if you'll do a college athletes back in the day.
And Kawhi never had to show up, but he was
paid extra money also to us his family or something else.
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It's really sorted to complay with the Clippers. He signed
with the Clippers. Now it's all coming out.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Right, whatever doesn't come out in the wash come out.
And how's that saying? Go? It always comes out. And
I think the biggest reason why people are upset. Let's
just be real. If he had done all of this
and the Clippers that are on back to back championships.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Fans are not as mad.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh you mean like show hate never mind?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Ye?
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
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Moke Kelly here KFI Live everywhere on YouTube and the
iHeartRadio app. The number one movie this week is One
Battle after Another. You may remember that Mark Ronner talked
about it in his Runner report. We had one of
the co stars on the show Chase Infinity. I didn't
get a chance to see it this weekend. I wanted to,
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but life gotten away. Let me just put it that way.
Life gotten away from me this weekend. But Twala Sharp
did get to see it. And I wonder if Tuala's
review matches up with Mark Ronner's review and to reset
And I'm not gonna speak for you, Mark, but to paraphrase,
you enjoyed it. It was you thought it was one
of the better movies of the year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Is that fair?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Oh, It's easily gonna be in my top ten list.
I mean, I don't do lists, really, but but I
think it's one of the better ones of the year,
and if you love movies, you just pretty much have
to see it. Okay, Twala, what was your review? I
thought it was I thought it was cool. I thought
it was a cool film. I thought their their look
at this you know, made up revolutionary group.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I thought it was cute.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I thought a lot of the things that happened made
for a very cute, fun film.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I said, I said, oh wow, Yeah, that's kind
of like when I.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Talk to different conspiracy theorists who talk about this is
what the government is doing and this is other sabotage
in the mission.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I say that that's that's cool.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
But it's you know, I think, when when you know
so much about how so many different revolutionary groups and
then you come up with like this one that doesn't exist,
you can just do whatever you want with it, and
you can do whatever you want with history and America
and just go.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, sure, Twila, are you willing to share a little
bit more? I cannot. Okay, I cannot. This is all
rather cryptic, and look, look he speaks. Yeah. All all
I will say is that.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Is that I know a lot more about the various
revolutions that have happened here in the United States, especially
here in California, and various groups that were involved in
certain things. So when I watch this, and I watched
and you know, there's just things you can just look
them in gen On you look at the things that this.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Group was doing and you go, okay, all right.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I mean it's it's one of those movies where I
said to myself, well, this is clearly a movie. So
even though it's fiction, you think it's just too lightweight
a depiction of that. Yeah, I think it's way too lightweight.
And I think it relies too heavily on conspiracies about
what people think may happen in some of these groups
and what they think the government may be doing to
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sabotage or subvert plans and things like that, and so
they just really bleuw all that up to make this movie.
And then when you get to the end, I just
said to myself, Oh, well that's cute.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's all. I Oh, that's cute. That was a cute movie.
Cute cute. It sounds very dismissive. Mark.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
I thought, look, praise no, no, I thought it was
I thought it was really cute. I thought that all
the performances were great. I thought, Uh, Jean Pagne, I
thought like, man, this guy, this guy is going overboard
with this role. Like wow, he was great. Uh Leo,
you know, Leo was Leo. You know there there wasn't
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anything like, oh my god, like Leo was really doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
I don't know what you mean, but I thought that
it took a lot of nerve for him to play
such a Putts in the movie, because you know, he's
a movie star and he could easily be doing Tom
Cruise type of stuff and this is not a likable
character by any means. Yeah, but this, this is kind
of what he's been trying to do for a while now,
and I can see why he would do this. I
got to do something to break the mold because you know,
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I could be doing the Tom Cruise, I could be
doing the I'm a beautiful actor thing, So I got
to do something different. But he's played Putts is before.
I mean you know that this is not this is
not new. He was, you know, really down and out
kind of Putts. But he's been he's been Putsy before.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I see.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Okay, then, I mean, and I'm not saying he was
phoning it in but I'm just saying there was nothing
special about it to make me go wow, especially about
his performance. There was nothing riveting or great about it.
I mean it was like, okay, right, he was not impressed, Mark, Yeah,
clearly not.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I liked it much better than you did. No, you did.
And here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I did not listen to your review, so I'm like, wow,
Mark is putting it on this list, a list that
may never manifest.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But okay, do.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You intend to start listening to my reviews at some point? No? No, no, no,
here's the thing, Mark, I love your reviews. I think
you are literally one of the best reviewers since Sisko
and Ebert and anyone else. I mean, you are one
of the best film reviewers alive period. Okay, you're gonna
make me crying. No, I tell you this all the time.
I tell you this off there. This isn't just for
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right now. You know this. You know how I feel
about your reviews, and I think that they are bar
none the best reviews out there. I purposely didn't listen
to last week's because I wanted to go and see
the movie eyes wide open and not be jaded by
your saucy review. Well, paying me a massive compliment like
that definitely short circuits any argument I wanted to have
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with you.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm still going to see it regardless because you should.
You should. It's definitely worth the watch. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, okay, you know, definitely could have shaved at least
an hour off of that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Really, I think they could have shaved hour.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Okay, just taking out of the equation your own experiences
and any comparisons with reality, What did you just think
of the filmmaking? I mean, I thought it was some
pretty powerful stuff that nobody else would have done. And
I think they were relying on I think that they
were relying on people walking out of the theater saying man,
I can't believe that they were allowed to do that,
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And I said, I so yeah. To me, it's very
clear what it is clear what you're trying to elicit
from the audience. I wasn't fooled by what they were
trying to get from us, And I think that maybe
that made me feel kind of like, oh man, you guys,
you could have you could have hit your your tricks
a little better. Like I don't know, Okay, some tough love,
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I can take it.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I will be the deciding vote. Say yes, okay, I
will get to the side.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
The movie is as great as Mark has characterized it,
or as mediocre as Twala has felt about it, Well,
what's your baseline?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
If you liked him, I'm not listening to you.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'm not even going to watch him. I've heard bad
stuff about him. I'm not even gonna waste the time.
I'm being serious. I've heard nobody say anything good about
that movie.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Oh no to him is a code brown. Now wait,
what did the movie you make this weekend?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh? Him? No?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
No, no, God no, not him no one Battle after
another million.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Twenty two million domestically, forty eight million worldwide, it did
pretty well, did twenty six million internationally, did better internationally
than it did domestically.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
In his first week. That's not bad, I can say that, though.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
I can see that because of the audience that they
were really, really sympathetic towards you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Also, it had a huge budget.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
I think it was the biggest budget of any of
Paul Thomas Anderson's movies, and it may not even make
its money back. But his movies all have long shelf lives.
People still are watching Boogie Nights for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
That's true, that's true. This film is gonna make his
money back. There were like four people in the theater
when I saw Oh really okay, yeah, not a cello.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And for its budget, it's only in thirty six hundred theaters.
You know they needed more theaters for it. But I'll
be the deciding vote. I'll let you know in the
next couple of days or so, assuming life doesn't give
in a way.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Well, don't keep us in suspense. I won't, I won't.
I'll tell you just as soon as I get to
see it, all right. I want it to be an
artist review, okay, not just gonna make it up. I'm
gonna go see it. No, No, you wouldn't do that.
You have too much. What's the word integrity? Yes, integrity? Yes,
thank you, Yes, that's the word you're searching for.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
KFI Later with mo Kelly your horoscope when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Here's your horoscope for the week. Let's start off with aries.
Aries meet in the middle Monday Sunday excuse me. Monday's
sun mercury conjunction inspires you to negotiate between your preferences
and someone else's to reach a strong compromise. Wednesday's solar
eclipse in Libra transforms your relationship with relationships by helping
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you see opposites differently. Venus forms of a trend t
R I N E trying try mark.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Do you know that word? Sorry? I was working on
something else?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Is it trying trend t R I N E H
you're speaking or something. Venus forms a tryne Saturn on Friday,
strengthening trust in your connections. I have no idea what
any of that means. Taurus, your routines are vital. Monday's
sun mercury conjunction inspires you to see the relationship between
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your habits and your goals. Wednesday's solar eclips in Libra
strengthens your well being and motivates you to commit to
a small health Thank you. This weekend's Venus Saturn trine
helps you blend.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's an aspect of one hundred and twenty degrees, a
third of a circle.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, a try. We'll just say that it's just a
trine cycle.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Come on, no one wants to say as strategic No,
look it's a shield.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Helps you blend friendship and romance in beautiful ways. Yes, Gemini,
now I'm listening. Okay, express yourself, Gemini. Monday's sun mercury
conjunction as in Today, helps you share a big truth
about yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Wednesday's solar eclipse.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
In Libra gives you a confidence boost based on your
bravery earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's it, that's it, thic, Yeah, I don't know what, Yeah, cancer.
What is home?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction helps you see it as a
place with it, not outside of you. Wednesday solar eclipse
in Libra expands this idea and inspires you to view
home as self acceptance, self love, and living the truth
of who you are. Friday's vetan Venus Saturn trine encourages
a little adventure to broaden your horizons.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Leo soften your startup.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction reminds you that the beginning of
a tough talk determines its direction, So be gentle. Wednesday's
soular eclips in Libra strengthens your communication skills, from word
choice to active listening. Friday's Vinas Saturn trine is a
passionate one, so pursue pleasure with those you trust.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Virgo, practice what you preach.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction inspires you to pull to put
a value into practice, bringing you closer to financial success.
Wednesday soular eclipse in Libra helps you secure some belated
birthday cash and improve your financial literacy. Venus forms a
trine with Saturn on Friday, encouraging better communication in romantic connection.
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It's nice, I guess if you say so, Libra. Happy birthday, Libra.
Monday sun Mercury conjunction brings a breakthrough you'll want to
act on. Wednesday solar eclipse in your sign is a
chance to change the way you see, think, feel and act.
Have an honest conversation with yourself about where you want
to grow. Friday's Venus Saturn trine brings a sense of calm, routine,
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and embodiment.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This weekend, Scorpio, here you go. Twalla, Yes, sir, that's
a wrap.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Monday sun Mercury conjunction concludes a chapter in your story.
Wednesday solar eclips and Libra helps you find acceptance and
what's ending so you can move forward with greater hope.
This weekend's Venus Saturn trying boost your self esteem, encouraging
you to take a creative risk and feel alive.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Nice if you say so. None of this make I
don't know what any of this means.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
You have to decipher between the words that you're reading.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Crimes, conjunction, junction. What's your function?
Speaker 7 (32:58):
I don't know whether it's again, it's the third of
a circle.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's like pie. I don't know now this is word salad. No,
it's pie.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Triplicate and it's increasing your power to the next level.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We all like it pie. But this is.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Slice, good circh each your slice. Sagittarius, community is everything.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Monday's sun Mercury conjunction reconnects you with your people for
mutual support. Wednesday solar eclips and Libra brings changes in
your friendship. Some dynamics may end, while others begin beautifully.
This weekend's Venus Saturn Trine highlights the connection between your
emotions and the values you need to implement to feel better.
I guess so if you say so, yes, Capricorn, You're
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a star. Monday sun Mercury brings a conversation that acknowledges
your talents.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Wednesday Solar eclips.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
In Libra changes your career through new relationships, helping you
fulfill dreams and find greater purpose. This Weekend's Trying helps
you connect with friends to celebrate each other's progress. Aquarius
Venture is calling. Monday's Sun Mercury Conjunction invites you to
explore new spaces and opportunities. Wednesday Solar eclips in Libra
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lifts you from the familiar and Monday, offering the chance
to explore the foreign and magical if you're willing to
follow your curiosities. Friday's Vitas Saturn Trine encourages a review
of your financial goals and how your career supports or
hinders them.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
If we had a drinking game for every time you've
said trin, I would be smashed.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, Trine out. It's every single look. I don't write them,
I just read them. This week is full of trime.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Pisces one more time? What's your Innerverse? Monday Sun Mercury
Conjunction helps you share your inner world. Wednesday Solar eclips
and Where Libra highlights the connection between intimacy and your
inner universe. The more you share your inner world, the
more intimacy you create.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Friday's venus Saturn, say it with me.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Trine helps you heal and regroup after a week of
profound self disclosure.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
And that is your horoscope for this week.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I have not a g damn idea what any of
that was talking about, but maybe you'll be able.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
To make sense of it. It was very trying.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Don't don't reward that, don't reward that, don't reach for anything.
No no, don't no, no no no, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Thank you. Okay, that's better. I love the look on
Mart's face.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let's welcome Jackie Ray back to the show. Jacki Ray
is good to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Good to see you too.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Let's just dive right in the Super Bowl NFL halftime show.
It was announced today Bad Bunny is going to be
the halftime show.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Guess.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm not going to preface this in any way. I
just want to hear your thoughts before I give my thoughts.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
So I had to you know, Bad Bunny could be
in the room with us right now. I wouldn't know
who he was. I couldn't tell you nary a song
he's ever done. I have no idea who he is.
I know his name. My first introduction on this story
was obviously the social media buzz and people calling him
a hypocrite. I didn't even know him well enough to
know why they were calling him that, so I had
to do a little bit of a dig. And then
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that's when I found out that he had said that
he wasn't going to do any tour dates on his
twenty twenty five twenty six tour in the Mainland, and FYI,
I was your post and I highly agree. I'm disappointed
in the number of people who don't know you are
an American if you were born in Puerto Rico, that's
a whole other story.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No, No, we're could to get into that as well, Bad
Bunny to further elaborate what you were saying, saying he
did not plan to perform in the continental United States
because of the ice raids, and he was concerned about
fans coming to his concerts and being swept up in
the ice raids.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Fair concern, It's a fair concern.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But also he understands, as someone who was born in
Puerto Rico, America is not the smartest country in the world,
and a lot of people, even today, I had to
explain to too many people that Puerto rican is American, right,
and if you're born in Puerto Rico, you are an American.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Citizen, full stop.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We'll stop.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But people don't understand that. But here was my thing.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I knew of Bad Bunny because of his Corona commercials
with Snoop and other people.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know that was him.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, that's when he hit my radar, but musically he
not on my radar. I believe all of this music
is in Spanish, but this is. I'm more philosophical about
this because if the NFL, and I say the NFL,
but I actually mean jay Z who picks the music
artists correct, And I say this within context of yes,
Taylor Swift declined, Yes, Adele decline, bad Bunny is at
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best or third choice?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
If the NFL slash jay Z thinks that this is
the direction they want to go or this is the
best for them, then who am I to say?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Well, it's not about what you say. It's about the
fact that the NFL has historically said that these artists
are kind of, I don't want to say, coming on
their own dime. But they're not being paid to they're
they're not being paid. Okay, yes, they're not being paid.
I'm giggling because if that's the case, and this is
what I said earlier on another show, if we're if
that's the narrative that we're sticking to, if you're saying,
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as a person of Latin descent, that it's important to
you not to be in a position where you are
jeopardized people who look like you. Why are you performing
at the halftime show? Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I can tell you this, because performing at the halftime
show the Super Bowl, and I need not tell you
it's not like people in the stands will be regular.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Folks for the rest part.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
They got money.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's a corporate event.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And also, let's not forget the NFL is savvy enough
to understand they are speaking to a worldwide audience. They
had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven international games
right schedule for this season seven. And we're talking in Brazil, Dublin, Ireland,
and I'm reading this London, Mexico, so all around the world.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It makes sense for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
On Madrid's Madrid.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, two Spanish speaking countries and one Portuguese is still Latino, right,
so we have three countries of Latin heritage.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, it makes sense for the NFL.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But like my dad used to always say, if you
don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything. And so
if he has made this stance that this is his
position and he wants to make sure that people understand
that he cares about people who look like him, then
he's also made the stance that that is up until
a point.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I agree, and it's in contradition to what he said
so far, but I also know then he will probably
use this moment to say something about something to somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Does, then I would argue he does not need that platform.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Maybe, but I know that's what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You're not going to give him that microphone in that
much stage and let's say it's about eleven minutes of
performance time.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, but we all know that the powers that be
are very fond of the president. Everybody and their mama
getting sued about something that they've said about the president.
I would bet my last five dollars that there's going
to be some constraints on what he can say while
he has that halftime infl microphone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And I'm going to use history as a guide. Kendrick
Lamar was told explicitly not to perform. They're not like us,
like us, okay, and he did it anyway with a smile,
and he called out Drake and pedophilia in a halftime
show beautiful okay. So all I'm saying is just because
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you're told don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
So I don't know anything about Bad Bunny. I'm just
full transparency. Kendrick Lamar not adhering to that was very
Kendrick Lamar esque. Is it bad Bunny esque?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think so, if only because he has said enough
publicly prior to this moment where there's a degree of consciousness,
a degree which says to me, he's aware that people
are going to call him a hypocrite or a cellout
or whatever, and there's going to have to be something
when I say, redemptive in his eyes.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
So that would be for him to have the opportunity
to use his voice, use that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's the only yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
So he's going to have to in order to make
it make sense. It's going to have to be they
not like us moment and.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, and he'll probably get away with it because I
suspect most of his performance will be in Spanish or
if you look, if you use this music as a guy,
and all of his music in Spanish, but I know
we can speak English. So there's a function of how
much of the show is going to be in Spanish
and what he may try to slide by.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So we're just going to need to get those translation subtitles.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I expect all of that.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But the larger conversation is I don't understand, and this
is more rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't understand why this is even an issue.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It seems like, and you made mention of the NFL
and how the perception of the league is one which
is very supportive of the president the person specifically, not
the president the United States, but Donald Trump the person.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
It seems like because Donald Trump was elected, people wrongly
assume that all cultural choices have to be consistent with
the whole make America great again theme, And that's not
the case. I mean, you know, the culture people thought that, well,
this means that Disney's going to do this or ABC
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is going to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, gone with the days.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Of snow white and the race swapping and Jimmy Kimmel,
and that's not been the case where you elected a person,
but that doesn't mean you control the culture.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
True, however, and I've said this before, he is moving
to be as much of a dictator as he can
and if he is going to have a moment to
either say something.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Or oh you mean be at the gate, Yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I very much think he's going to take this opportunity
to because it's not about politics. It's about how he
is seen and everybody's great and his ideas, even though
though he can't say certain words you know, he's he
has lofted himself up as the most intelligent, the all knowing,
and so he's going to be not even if he
he's not there, he's going to be watching, and he's
going to say something that says, if you speak against me,
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you're speaking against America. He's done this before, he's going
to do it again.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
What I don't understand is, and I really don't understand
the fixation with the NFL specifically, not for not only
the president, but I'm saying wider culture cycle. I can't
believe they didn't And me personally, I'm surprised they didn't
go in the direction of country music of rock after
Kendrick Lamar. But that's just me personally. But the NFL
is going to do what it's going to do. I
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just don't understand the outrage, the concern. It's like, look,
it's thirty minutes of your life where for the most part,
you're going to be getting something to eat, You've got
to go to the bathroom. You're not even concerned with
the eleven minutes of performance. It's a thirty minute halftime,
but set up and take down, you know, it's thirty
minutes and people want to use this as some measuring
stick of America being woke or not. When it's a
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business decision for the sake of marketing the NFL to
the wider world.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I don't disagree with that as far as an intelligent perspective.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
However, the NFL is predominantly black.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It has been notoriously one of those things where we've
had push and pull. We've had the Rooney Rule, We've
had black people being declined jobs, We've had black men
take a knee. So like it or not, the NFL
is that symbol of are they going to push back.
They have slowed that down as of late for a
plethora of reasons. But that is the reputation of the NFL.
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And then Kendrick Lamar coming in in that moment to
your point, I definitely thought we was going to get
like a Kid Rock halftime show. You did counteract that.
So this is a nuanced performance in my opinion. But
that's why everybody is looking at it and to see
what's going to happen, because it has been leading the
charge as far as really taking a stance at some
of the issues that face our country. That has died down.
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But that reputation hasn't. So that's why everybody's paying attention
to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well paying attention.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But I'm thinking, like, after a certain point, how many
times can you play the boycott card? You wanted to
boycott the NFL on both sides of the issue regarding
Colin Kaepernick because you thought he was disrespecting the military,
or he didn't go far enough, or what the NFL
did not take him back, all that kind of stuff.
Then you want to to boycott the NFL because of
thee George Floyd protests and they had in racism in
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the in the end zone, and they had you know,
in racism on the helmets a right, how many times
can you say I'm boycott in the NFL before.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You're crying wolf at this point?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Right, because most of these people that are football fans,
their great great grandfather was a fan. It's ingrained in
their system. You're not boycotting, you're just mad. Be mad
in the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And even if you are boycotting, you're not impacting the
bottom line of their nine because they've already sold the
television rights for multi billions of dollars and this is
just up to the networks to recoup that money that
they paid for me.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The best you can do is burn the jersey you're
already paid for.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And the super Bowl commercials they're still going to sell out.
They're gonna be costs more than last season. So they're
two things. One, your boycott is stupid, is not going
to impact anything. But how can you keep boycotting when
you say that you were already boycotting four times ago.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, when you're going to boycott, you have to do
something like we saw in the Jimmy Kimmel situation. It
has to be quick, it has to be efficient, it
has to be immediate.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
A lot of people have to do it.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
But you're just saying to your buddy, like me and
my partner over here, ten of us are going to boycott.
Nobody cares. It doesn't mean anything. Respectfully, of course, I
mean disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I tell people all the time, your boy scouts, whatever,
will we come back? This intersection of sports and politics,
and I think the embodiment of that is Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Smith.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
He has not one but two new shows on Sirius XM,
and that's in addition to I think he's doing something
on YouTube, and he has obviously all this work for ESPN.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's like he's trying to stay out the house.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, look he's not, like he's married, so he doesn't
have to worry about going home with anyone. But there's
this intersection of sports and politics. There is no line anymore.
So let's right this disabuse ourselves of that notion. When
we come back, let's talk about what Stephen A. Smith
has tried to do and whether we collectively are okay
with it. That's next Beyond the Box with Jackie Ray.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stephen A.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Smith, he recently signed one hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
He's with ESPN. He's the face of ESPN.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
In addition to that, but part of his contract he
was allowed to do media work for companies outside of ESPN.
And so now he has not one, but two different
shows on SiriusXM. And that says nothing of his afternoon
sports show on Mad Dog Sports Radio. He's got a
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lot of shows. He does some he's talking sports. For
most of them, he's talking of sports and there is
at least one show where he's talking nothing but politics.
For the person who's not savvy, and you just see
a Steven A. Smith clip, like, for example, he was
on News Nation with Chris pomer last night talking about
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's just Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You don't make the mental partition like, well, he's only
talking politics here, right, and sports on this other show.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What do you make of the invariable blending, of.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
The blurring of the you know, the separation between sports
and politics that supposedly people want.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, it's you know, I've said this a thousand times.
It is not logical to expect there is a separation
between sports news politics because politics affect people.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
People play sports. It's really that simple.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
And as a person who started in news then just
did sports and now I'm doing both, I actually love
it because you talk to athletes, you talk to them
about different things, you learn different perspectives that they have,
and you're able to share that with the general community.
So I love it. The ESPN's point, I understand. I
understand them saying that's not our brand. We just want
to talk about sports. But Steve has brought up politics
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on ESPN before, he has talked about things that politically
affect players.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's talked about those things.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
So while they are trying to separate and say, Okay,
when he is with us, he's ESPN stephen A.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And when he's over there, he's just over there. That's
not logical.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's not logical.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, you see him when he's not even hosting, right,
you see him on Fox News talking about politics or
the intersection of sports in politics. In other words, I
don't think society. I'm not gonna blame the stephen A spith.
I don't think society can have it both ways, and
I think they're being in insincere. What I mean by
that is people don't and this is on regardless.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Of your political persuasion.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
People don't mind the politics in sports so long as
the sports figure.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Has their politics correct.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
If it's you know, if you're MAGA, you don't mind
Joey Bosa wearing a MAGA hat during a football game interview?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, you don't mind sports and politics like that.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, to be fair, I don't mind him doing that either,
do you. I but you bet and not get mad
at me when I talk about it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But that's what bothers me is like, you say you
don't want politics and sports, just shut up and dribble
with the exception of the folks who.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Mouths your politics.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, So let's just be fair. Let's just call a
spade a spade right now.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
If stephen A, if there was a snowballs chance that
Steven A would told the line that ESPN exects they
themselves told politically, this probably wouldn't be a separation that
they needed.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, I'm not gonna go get in too deep of
what I think ESPN's politics are because there's some people
I know who work over there who are in powerful positions,
and I would be willing to bet it runs counter
to what people believe about the network.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And I don't believe it's always just one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I know how ESPN has tried to present itself, and
I think part of it has to do with the
Disney matrix. Right it is still in that Disney corporate
conglomerate situation where they're not going to have as much
latitude as some of the other properties. We've seen what
has happened with ABC and Jimmy Kimmel. ESPN doesn't want
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any of that.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So the real question I think we really should be
asking is how far behind does this put the networks,
Because if you're saying we want our personalities to tow
the line, we have social media now there are places
that other people can go to get the information that
they want.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
No matter what side your opinion is on.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
There's somebody on social media right now talking about a
topic that you're passionate about. And so if that's because
like it or not, I mean, the addressed elephant in
the room, we're going to have to start talking about
politics through every facet of our life in about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I think it's shorter than that because we know
that the president is going to make a pronouncement about
the NFL and different sports every step of the way.
I was talking to Colin Cowherd, who's now on Fox WORT.
He did tell me part of the reason he left
ESPN because ESPN was so restrictive as far as the
types of subjects he wanted to talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Fox Sports is much more loose in that way.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
If you listen to him, he'll talk a little bit
about politics and society. So I get that as far
as the individuals wanted to have a broader.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Subject based to address.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But I think that we're being dishonest as a society
when we're not acknowledging that there's so much happening in
the world today which does not confine itself to just sports,
does not confine itself to just politics.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
When the President shows up at the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
While the President has something to say about the kickoff
rule in the.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
NFL, it's like we're still playing the national anthem at
sporting events.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That is a political statement, you know, like it or not.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There's a history in this country of the intersection of
sports and politics. We had Howard Cosell and Muhammad al Lei,
so we talked about that and listen, I mean, we
can go there's so many situation where politically and politics
and sports crossover.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I think you're right.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
People are only accepting of it if it's in their willhouse.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've incited chapter and verse.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
We can talk about Tommy Smith and John Carlos in
the Olympics, just the Olympics. Now we're coming up Olympics
in LA politics. When I say politics, let me just
say social issues. Social issues have always had a prominent
place within the sports landscape, if only because if you
use history as a guide, especially when you talk about
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African Americans, it was a place where African Americans not
only had power, but also had the media access to
have and articulate issues that were important to them which
were not afforded other African Americans. That's why Muhammad Ali,
for example, could talk about the ills of America during
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the nineteen sixties and the Vietnam War the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
That's why Malcolm X said, what other race all of
their leaders are in entertainers, in sports and athletes for that,
because that's all we could get. And anytime you're talking
about the first anything, whether you're talking about the first woman,
first black person, for his LGBTQ prous person, that is
a political statement because you've broken a barrier. So politics
is always going to be a thing because we are
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a nation like it or not. And I know this
might be a political statement. We are not accepting of
everyone here. No, I don't know if y'all knew this.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I am absolutely positive. I bet my last five dollars
on that one.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I'm not going to take that back. History too well,
Jack Ray is always good to see. Oh, very quickly,
in thirty seconds I have with you. We know that
there is an ongoing and burgeoning NBA investigation into Steve Baumer,
the owner of the LA Clippers, and what they did
to sign a Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It wasn't that media day yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, No, very quickly. The story is that Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There's a salary cap in the NBA and you can
only promise players so much amount of money. Allegation is
they tried to circumnavigate the salary cap by paying Kawhi
Leonard off the books with no show jobs like we're
gonna give you four million. You're supposedly doing this job
if you'll do a college athletes back in the day.
And Kawhi never had to show up, but he was
paid extra money also to us his family or something else.
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It's really sorted to complay with the Clippers. He signed
with the Clippers. Now it's all coming out.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Right, whatever doesn't come out in the wash come out.
And how's that saying? Go? It always comes out. And
I think the biggest reason why people are upset. Let's
just be real. If he had done all of this
and the Clippers that are on back to back championships.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Fans are not as mad.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh you mean like show hate never mind?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Ye?
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
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Speaker 4 (20:51):
Moke Kelly here KFI Live everywhere on YouTube and the
iHeartRadio app. The number one movie this week is One
Battle after Another. You may remember that Mark Ronner talked
about it in his Runner report. We had one of
the co stars on the show Chase Infinity. I didn't
get a chance to see it this weekend. I wanted to,
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but life gotten away. Let me just put it that way.
Life gotten away from me this weekend. But Twala Sharp
did get to see it. And I wonder if Tuala's
review matches up with Mark Ronner's review and to reset
And I'm not gonna speak for you, Mark, but to paraphrase,
you enjoyed it. It was you thought it was one
of the better movies of the year.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Is that fair?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Oh, It's easily gonna be in my top ten list.
I mean, I don't do lists, really, but but I
think it's one of the better ones of the year,
and if you love movies, you just pretty much have
to see it. Okay, Twala, what was your review? I
thought it was I thought it was cool. I thought
it was a cool film. I thought their their look
at this you know, made up revolutionary group.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I thought it was cute.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I thought a lot of the things that happened made
for a very cute, fun film.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I said, I said, oh wow, Yeah, that's kind
of like when I.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Talk to different conspiracy theorists who talk about this is
what the government is doing and this is other sabotage
in the mission.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I say that that's that's cool.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
But it's you know, I think, when when you know
so much about how so many different revolutionary groups and
then you come up with like this one that doesn't exist,
you can just do whatever you want with it, and
you can do whatever you want with history and America
and just go.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, sure, Twila, are you willing to share a little
bit more? I cannot. Okay, I cannot. This is all
rather cryptic, and look, look he speaks. Yeah. All all
I will say is that.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Is that I know a lot more about the various
revolutions that have happened here in the United States, especially
here in California, and various groups that were involved in
certain things. So when I watch this, and I watched
and you know, there's just things you can just look
them in gen On you look at the things that this.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Group was doing and you go, okay, all right.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I mean it's it's one of those movies where I
said to myself, well, this is clearly a movie. So
even though it's fiction, you think it's just too lightweight
a depiction of that. Yeah, I think it's way too lightweight.
And I think it relies too heavily on conspiracies about
what people think may happen in some of these groups
and what they think the government may be doing to
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sabotage or subvert plans and things like that, and so
they just really bleuw all that up to make this movie.
And then when you get to the end, I just
said to myself, Oh, well that's cute.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's all. I Oh, that's cute. That was a cute movie.
Cute cute. It sounds very dismissive. Mark.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
I thought, look, praise no, no, I thought it was
I thought it was really cute. I thought that all
the performances were great. I thought, Uh, Jean Pagne, I
thought like, man, this guy, this guy is going overboard
with this role. Like wow, he was great. Uh Leo,
you know, Leo was Leo. You know there there wasn't
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anything like, oh my god, like Leo was really doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
I don't know what you mean, but I thought that
it took a lot of nerve for him to play
such a Putts in the movie, because you know, he's
a movie star and he could easily be doing Tom
Cruise type of stuff and this is not a likable
character by any means. Yeah, but this, this is kind
of what he's been trying to do for a while now,
and I can see why he would do this. I
got to do something to break the mold because you know,
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I could be doing the Tom Cruise, I could be
doing the I'm a beautiful actor thing, So I got
to do something different. But he's played Putts is before.
I mean you know that this is not this is
not new. He was, you know, really down and out
kind of Putts. But he's been he's been Putsy before.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I see.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Okay, then, I mean, and I'm not saying he was
phoning it in but I'm just saying there was nothing
special about it to make me go wow, especially about
his performance. There was nothing riveting or great about it.
I mean it was like, okay, right, he was not impressed, Mark, Yeah,
clearly not.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I liked it much better than you did. No, you did.
And here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I did not listen to your review, so I'm like, wow,
Mark is putting it on this list, a list that
may never manifest.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But okay, do.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You intend to start listening to my reviews at some point? No? No, no, no,
here's the thing, Mark, I love your reviews. I think
you are literally one of the best reviewers since Sisko
and Ebert and anyone else. I mean, you are one
of the best film reviewers alive period. Okay, you're gonna
make me crying. No, I tell you this all the time.
I tell you this off there. This isn't just for
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right now. You know this. You know how I feel
about your reviews, and I think that they are bar
none the best reviews out there. I purposely didn't listen
to last week's because I wanted to go and see
the movie eyes wide open and not be jaded by
your saucy review. Well, paying me a massive compliment like
that definitely short circuits any argument I wanted to have
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with you.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm still going to see it regardless because you should.
You should. It's definitely worth the watch. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, okay, you know, definitely could have shaved at least
an hour off of that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Really, I think they could have shaved hour.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Okay, just taking out of the equation your own experiences
and any comparisons with reality, What did you just think
of the filmmaking? I mean, I thought it was some
pretty powerful stuff that nobody else would have done. And
I think they were relying on I think that they
were relying on people walking out of the theater saying man,
I can't believe that they were allowed to do that,
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And I said, I so yeah. To me, it's very
clear what it is clear what you're trying to elicit
from the audience. I wasn't fooled by what they were
trying to get from us, And I think that maybe
that made me feel kind of like, oh man, you guys,
you could have you could have hit your your tricks
a little better. Like I don't know, Okay, some tough love,
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I can take it.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I will be the deciding vote. Say yes, okay, I
will get to the side.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
The movie is as great as Mark has characterized it,
or as mediocre as Twala has felt about it, Well,
what's your baseline?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
If you liked him, I'm not listening to you.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'm not even going to watch him. I've heard bad
stuff about him. I'm not even gonna waste the time.
I'm being serious. I've heard nobody say anything good about
that movie.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Oh no to him is a code brown. Now wait,
what did the movie you make this weekend?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh? Him? No?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
No, no, God no, not him no one Battle after
another million.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Twenty two million domestically, forty eight million worldwide, it did
pretty well, did twenty six million internationally, did better internationally
than it did domestically.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
In his first week. That's not bad, I can say that, though.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
I can see that because of the audience that they
were really, really sympathetic towards you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Also, it had a huge budget.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
I think it was the biggest budget of any of
Paul Thomas Anderson's movies, and it may not even make
its money back. But his movies all have long shelf lives.
People still are watching Boogie Nights for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
That's true, that's true. This film is gonna make his
money back. There were like four people in the theater
when I saw Oh really okay, yeah, not a cello.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And for its budget, it's only in thirty six hundred theaters.
You know they needed more theaters for it. But I'll
be the deciding vote. I'll let you know in the
next couple of days or so, assuming life doesn't give
in a way.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Well, don't keep us in suspense. I won't, I won't.
I'll tell you just as soon as I get to
see it, all right. I want it to be an
artist review, okay, not just gonna make it up. I'm
gonna go see it. No, No, you wouldn't do that.
You have too much. What's the word integrity? Yes, integrity? Yes,
thank you, Yes, that's the word you're searching for.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
KFI Later with mo Kelly your horoscope when we come back.
We're Life Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Here's your horoscope for the week. Let's start off with aries.
Aries meet in the middle Monday Sunday excuse me. Monday's
sun mercury conjunction inspires you to negotiate between your preferences
and someone else's to reach a strong compromise. Wednesday's solar
eclipse in Libra transforms your relationship with relationships by helping
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you see opposites differently. Venus forms of a trend t
R I N E trying try mark.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Do you know that word? Sorry? I was working on
something else?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Is it trying trend t R I N E H
you're speaking or something. Venus forms a tryne Saturn on Friday,
strengthening trust in your connections. I have no idea what
any of that means. Taurus, your routines are vital. Monday's
sun mercury conjunction inspires you to see the relationship between
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your habits and your goals. Wednesday's solar eclips in Libra
strengthens your well being and motivates you to commit to
a small health Thank you. This weekend's Venus Saturn trine
helps you blend.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's an aspect of one hundred and twenty degrees, a
third of a circle.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, a try. We'll just say that it's just a
trine cycle.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Come on, no one wants to say as strategic No,
look it's a shield.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Helps you blend friendship and romance in beautiful ways. Yes, Gemini,
now I'm listening. Okay, express yourself, Gemini. Monday's sun mercury
conjunction as in Today, helps you share a big truth
about yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Wednesday's solar eclipse.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
In Libra gives you a confidence boost based on your
bravery earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's it, that's it, thic, Yeah, I don't know what, Yeah, cancer.
What is home?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction helps you see it as a
place with it, not outside of you. Wednesday solar eclipse
in Libra expands this idea and inspires you to view
home as self acceptance, self love, and living the truth
of who you are. Friday's vetan Venus Saturn trine encourages
a little adventure to broaden your horizons.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Leo soften your startup.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction reminds you that the beginning of
a tough talk determines its direction, So be gentle. Wednesday's
soular eclips in Libra strengthens your communication skills, from word
choice to active listening. Friday's Vinas Saturn trine is a
passionate one, so pursue pleasure with those you trust.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Virgo, practice what you preach.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Monday's sun mercury conjunction inspires you to pull to put
a value into practice, bringing you closer to financial success.
Wednesday soular eclipse in Libra helps you secure some belated
birthday cash and improve your financial literacy. Venus forms a
trine with Saturn on Friday, encouraging better communication in romantic connection.
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It's nice, I guess if you say so, Libra. Happy birthday, Libra.
Monday sun Mercury conjunction brings a breakthrough you'll want to
act on. Wednesday solar eclipse in your sign is a
chance to change the way you see, think, feel and act.
Have an honest conversation with yourself about where you want
to grow. Friday's Venus Saturn trine brings a sense of calm, routine,
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and embodiment.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
This weekend, Scorpio, here you go. Twalla, Yes, sir, that's
a wrap.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Monday sun Mercury conjunction concludes a chapter in your story.
Wednesday solar eclips and Libra helps you find acceptance and
what's ending so you can move forward with greater hope.
This weekend's Venus Saturn trying boost your self esteem, encouraging
you to take a creative risk and feel alive.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Nice if you say so. None of this make I
don't know what any of this means.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
You have to decipher between the words that you're reading.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Crimes, conjunction, junction. What's your function?
Speaker 7 (32:58):
I don't know whether it's again, it's the third of
a circle.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's like pie. I don't know now this is word salad. No,
it's pie.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Triplicate and it's increasing your power to the next level.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
We all like it pie. But this is.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
Slice, good circh each your slice. Sagittarius, community is everything.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Monday's sun Mercury conjunction reconnects you with your people for
mutual support. Wednesday solar eclips and Libra brings changes in
your friendship. Some dynamics may end, while others begin beautifully.
This weekend's Venus Saturn Trine highlights the connection between your
emotions and the values you need to implement to feel better.
I guess so if you say so, yes, Capricorn, You're
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a star. Monday sun Mercury brings a conversation that acknowledges
your talents.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Wednesday Solar eclips.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
In Libra changes your career through new relationships, helping you
fulfill dreams and find greater purpose. This Weekend's Trying helps
you connect with friends to celebrate each other's progress. Aquarius
Venture is calling. Monday's Sun Mercury Conjunction invites you to
explore new spaces and opportunities. Wednesday Solar eclips in Libra
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lifts you from the familiar and Monday, offering the chance
to explore the foreign and magical if you're willing to
follow your curiosities. Friday's Vitas Saturn Trine encourages a review
of your financial goals and how your career supports or
hinders them.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
If we had a drinking game for every time you've
said trin, I would be smashed.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, Trine out. It's every single look. I don't write them,
I just read them. This week is full of trime.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Pisces one more time? What's your Innerverse? Monday Sun Mercury
Conjunction helps you share your inner world. Wednesday Solar eclips
and Where Libra highlights the connection between intimacy and your
inner universe. The more you share your inner world, the
more intimacy you create.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Friday's venus Saturn, say it with me.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Trine helps you heal and regroup after a week of
profound self disclosure.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
And that is your horoscope for this week.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I have not a g damn idea what any of
that was talking about, but maybe you'll be able.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
To make sense of it. It was very trying.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Don't don't reward that, don't reward that, don't reach for anything.
No no, don't no, no no no, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
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Mart's face.
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