September 26, 2025 • 30 mins
Guest host Andy Riesmeyer takes the mic on Later with Mo’Kelly and kicks things off with a look at California’s latest slang obsession; what terms like “6-7,” “sybau,” and “clanker” actually mean, and how TikTok is driving the rapid evolution of language nationwide. Then, Andy breaks down the short-lived but viral San Francisco parking cop app, why the city shut it down, and what it says about enforcement in a cash-strapped S.F.
Later, Andy welcomes Jack Primavera, Supervising Producer of The Voice, for a deep dive into the state of the music industry. They discuss the lingering blind spots in mainstream music criticism, especially around Taylor Swift, and examine how the L.A. music scene is adapting in 2025.
Later, Andy welcomes Jack Primavera, Supervising Producer of The Voice, for a deep dive into the state of the music industry. They discuss the lingering blind spots in mainstream music criticism, especially around Taylor Swift, and examine how the L.A. music scene is adapting in 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
But this is Andy Reesmeyer. I'm in for mo tonight.
I'll be with you all the way until ten PM.
We got a great show for you this evening. So
much is happening. Dodgers clinching Fourth Street NL West title.
It's the twelfth in their last thirteen years that happened
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We'll talk a little about that.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Also, California slang, what kids are saying these days is
absolutely absurd. The words that they're using might as well
be in a different language. And I swear it's different
than when I was a kid. I think there was
some through line between young people content when I was
a teenager. At least my parents understood us, like the
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words we were saying. We'll get into that and a
lot of people googling those California the slang rather here
in California because they want to know what these things mean.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That's a chuzz What is.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What else have we got on here? We've got all
kinds of crazy ones. We've got bops sharking. We spoke
to an actual young person earlier today on the KTLA
Morning News. I'm going to play that and then we
will open up the phone lines here and have everybody
call in and let us know what you think about
these things. I think that we're slowly in a place
where the young people all of a sudden. This is
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not maybe going to happen overnight, but it'll be quick.
We'll just basically become a completely different society. I know
that that's always been the thing. Teenagers have always been different. Whatever,
But there you go. Also, the big news today, Comy,
James Comy has been indicted. This was something we expected
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to be coming, but it really came down at around
four o'clock this afternoon. Of course, he's a long time
adversary of President Trump. Now is the first senior governmental
official to face federal charges in one of Trump's largest grievances.
CNN says the federal grand jury indicted him today. Both
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charges relate to a testimony in September of twenty twenty
to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Comy said he did not
authorize someone at the FBI to be an anonymous source,
and later, of course, they're alleging that that was false.
The charges were presented by Lindsay Halligan, who is Trump's president,
Trump's former personal attorney now the top prosecutor in the
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Eastern District of Virginia, will of course keep you updated
on that if we'll get any information. I don't expect
them to have any information tonight on that, but that
is the big story in other news, at least as
far as the Internet and the president is confirmed. About
an hour ago, Reuters reporting that Trump assigned an order
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declaring TikTok is now partially at least an American company.
The executive order declares that the plan to sell TikTok
to a US based operator is basically to address national
security requirements that were part of a law from twenty
(03:15):
twenty four. The interesting thing about this is that the company,
at least the new US version of TikTok, is valued
at around fourteen billion. I know that sounds like a
lot of money. I would take fourteen billion dollars for
Gina Aantos. Would you do fourteen bill?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean, hello, Tony, what do we think about fourteen bill?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I can make that work. You can make it work.
But here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The company values itself at more than three hundred and thirty
billion dollars. I like that concept. You may think I'm
only worth fourteen, but I think I'm worth three hundred
and thirty billion, so that's kind of interesting. And another
independent analyst says that TikTok was somewhere worth between thirty
billion and forty billion dollars without the algorithm, So that
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of course an update in social media world. But what
I really want to talk about, which is what I
teased a little bit earlier, are these slang terms. Like
I said, people really just have a hard time knowing
what young people are saying. And we talk a lot
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about generational divides, things that are different between people who
are older and younger, and I swear with the Internet
it's getting more and more difficult, and maybe the social
media is like putting us into these boxes where we
have to feel like my age group really defines who
I am, even though as we know, as we've talked
about many times on the Weekend Show or on KTLA,
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generations are basically just made up, especially if you're an
old man with a young wife. But research by unscrambler
dot com analyzed slang related Google searches starting at the
beginning of this year. The number one top search slang
term is and if you have kids, you've probably heard
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them say this six seven. It originated from a rapper
who's from Philadelphia's name Scrilla. He has a song and
basically on on TikTok, they edited the song with a
clip about LaMelo Ball and it's a reference to his height.
If you don't understand this, I totally get it, And
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if you hate it, I also understand it. But basically
six to seven doesn't mean anything. It's like filler word.
It's like brain rot that the kids are just saying
and they try to like run around and get each
other to say it, and they think it's really funny.
The randomness of it is what's so funny. Other things
include chopped, ugly or undesirable? Did you know about this one?
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Forgina shaking her head, yes she's heard chopped. Oh yeah, okay,
so am I like an old man being Well, I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Old too, I'm an older millennial, So you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Know I don't hear chopped in common conversation. How about sigma?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, but only because TikTok keeps showing me the kids
that are like the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Mom's mind were talking, But no one in real life
has said these things.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Bop, Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
One bop to me meant like a good song like
that is a bop, Like you could say free Fallen
is a bop by Tom Petty that apparently is a
person with many sexual partners.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, it's like the girls that are on OnlyFans are bops.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They're bops. This is confusing because if you're like I,
it's so confusing.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I say it wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I discovered a great bop last night that sounds so bad,
and I'm referring to a song, a yacht rock tune
that's not what young people would think. Sharking apparently is
looking for casual hookups, Clanker is a derogatory slang for robots.
That's a joke, No one actually says that, and chuzz
apparently means an unattractive man. It's a blend of chopped
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and huzz, which is or for a husband. These people don't,
We're losing our humanity. Other things include glazing that means
excessive flattery, phantom tax, taking a friend's food, slop which
is low effort AI content, and are a farming doing
something online mostly just to look cool for cloud. Most slang,
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of course, now spreads through TikTok, Instagram, meme, culture, whatever,
and so it gets to kids faster than ever. That
I think is the major difference is that I think
if you looked across the country, maybe even the world,
they probably these kids maybe I said teenagers a little younger,
would probably all have the same frame of reference for slang,
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which I think is totally different from when we were kids.
And I tested this today because I asked some of
my coworkers about this. We talk about chopped as a
stand in for ugly. This is also sad, by the way,
But when we were young in Indiana, you would say, oh,
that person is hit terrible, but in California you would
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say that person is beat.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I I don't know what all this means. I don't
know where we're going as a people, but we'll get there.
Eight hundred five too one five three four. That's the
phone number. Give us a call, tell tell us about
these the slang terms if your kids are saying them.
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going to talk about a review of the fire response
from Los Angeles in both the Eton and the Palisades fire.
Plus a viral parking app in San Francisco was shut
(09:25):
down hours after it was launched. It was supposed to
help you find out where the meter maids were. Then
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we're taking calls right now, eight hundred and five two
zero one KFI. Always happy to hear from everybody. We
were talking a little bit about slaying that young people,
and we're talking about gen Z but also even younger
like Jen Alpha, people born between the years of twenty
(10:44):
ten and now so fifteen year old. I don't know
a lot of people in general, let alone I don't
have kids, so I have no interaction with children for
the most part. But a lot of interesting conversations came
from that. We talked to somebody earlier today who is
in that generation. We'll check on that a little bit later.
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I don't want to go up to San Francisco where
something wild has occurred.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Francisco, you've probably have gotten a parking ticket or two.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Maybe it's because your meter expired.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Now, the engineer Riley ol Weiss, he says he just
loves data, and he says his app was supposed to
be all part of a big data experiment.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, So what happened was there was an app that
went viral and it was tracking parking cops in the
city of San Francisco. It was up for about four
hours before the city pulled the plug. It was called
find My Parking Cops. And essentially what you were doing
is checking this map and you could see people writing tickets.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Ticket cops.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They're actually cops up in San Francisco who write the tickets,
not in Los Angeles. It's parking enforcement, but you could
see where they were, and I think insensibly so you
could see if they were heading your way when if
you had to move of your car, put some more
money in that meter.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Out to get the parking cops like, I respect their
work and stuff.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Software engineer Riley Waltz doesn't have a car and he's
never gotten a parking ticket, but his friends and roommate
have gotten plenty of them.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Open our mailbox, I just see those tickets. So that
was kind of what inspired it was just seeing those.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
He decided to create an app called Find My Parking Cops,
using SFMTA data already posted online for the public to see.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
I'm usually had a nerd like this is just really
cool data to look at.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Waltz says his app was supposed to be a tool
to help drivers in San Francisco.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
It's a riff off of Find My Friends. I was
able to reverse engineer the SF parking ticket system so
I can see kind of close to real time where
parking tickets were issued in the city.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then I was.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Making a map of like where the actual parking cops
were as they traversed the city and issue tickets.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I am a nerd I don't think that I make
any bones about that, but I am so jealous to
someone who could be as smart and so excited to
do so much.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
Math in theoryavy you could use that to avoid them
avoid a ticket.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
The app went viral, but within four hours SFMTA put
a stop to Waltz's project.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
They changed their site so I couldn't scrape the data
from their site anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And the city says we welcome creative uses of technology
to encourage legal parking, but we also want to make
sure our employees are able to do their job safely
and without disruption. They shut it down a lot of
comments saying we want transparency. Where is the transparency? Others saying, oh,
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now you care, Now you care about the officers. By
the way, parking enforcement in San Francisco is reportedly up.
They're writing more tickets to try to help with a
three hundred and twenty two million dollar deficit. We've been
checking back and forth for that app. Find my parking cops.
(13:56):
You could just google it. Rightley Wallace is the guy
who made it. Nothing still not up, so unfortunately, you'll
just have to keep feeding the meter.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Jack Primavera will join us talk about the state of
music in southern California. He works on the television show
The Voice. They are coming back for season I think
three hundred and seventy five, three hundred and seventy six.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Maybe you have to check my math on that one.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We're going to talk about the new season and also
just sort of what it's like to be a musician
now in twenty twenty five in the world of AI
and also streaming and consolidation.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's tough to get people to watch your stuff and
listen to it. But now we're checking in with Prgina Degastino.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
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He Mandy Reesmaer in four the aforementioned mo Kelly on
this Thursday, the twenty fifth of September, just past seven
point thirty here, nice day, still a little humid there,
temperatures coming down though, especially in the valley. I was
out working. I was working in the in the yard, sweating,
had to chain shirts before I got to rinsed off
before I came in out. That's how you know it's serious.
(15:14):
We have a collar online from coast to Mesa, California,
where the weather is always perfect, Scott. You're on later
with Mo Kelly with Andy Reesemeyer.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Well, hello there. Yeah, I wanted to comment on sort
of like the how kids are morphing words and stuff
like that. Yeah, it reminded me of growing up in
high school, junior high school. You know, back in those days,
we didn't have internet or anything like that, but there
was always a couple of kids who they actually made
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their own language, you know, they they made it like
klang on or whatever. That's the world. They knew what
they were talking about, right, It was pretty ingenious and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But do you remember any of the terms were you
Were you aware of that language? Did you speak it
or did you just know of it?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
No? I just kind of laughed them are they?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But now it seems like everybody is doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Well exactly, And I think that's technology that spreads it all.
And you know, I'm I'm okay with laugh out loud
or om g, you know, those abbreviations and stuff like that.
But I don't know when you get into those big
words as double double meaning and stuff like that. My
(16:34):
nephew does that to me, and oh it totally does.
But I just throw back. Oh, DC was like, what
does that mean? Don't care?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't care?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And he he's learned that, don't do that with me,
you know, speak normal. Yeah, and it worked, you know,
and it's you know, I don't want to like preuss
his soul or anything like that, but you know, it's
just these things that is so exhausting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, I would, I would agree with you. There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Well, thank you so much for Colin as always good
to hear from you, Scott. There in Coasta Mesa, California,
where it's exhausting, but at least you have a good
I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
In Coast to Mesa. How life is great.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Speaking of great life, I'm so happy to invite and
welcome one of my closest friends of all time, mister
Jack Primavera live here in studio.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hello, Hello, Andy, I'm so honored to be here. This
is so great because you and I have known each
other forever. We went to high school together. We've both
to miss Corpenning's class in sophomore year of high school,
and I think I failed it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm sure you did really well.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
In English class. I think I did. Think I did
do well. You probably did. But we've both been in
music in different ways. I was in a band.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You came out to LA to do music and work
in music and the music business. You now work on
the voice or you have worked on the voice for
the past many.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Season twenty nineteen, since season sixteen, and you're just about
to start season We just this week had our premiere
of season twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Amazing. Yes, so you're a vet.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You know there are people that have been on it,
including one of my editors, since season one. It's an
incredible show and it still keeps going.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And employs a lot of people in Southern California in
the entertainment business, which I feel like is a rare
thing these days.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yes, one hundredercent, and I shout out to the show
that we made it through the COVID era, the strikes,
and day just kept going. It's an amazing show.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
So we were talking about music in general and sort
of like what it is to be a musician these days,
and you know the.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
World that it used to be.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I feel like when we were first growing up or
first starting out in music.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
When we were growing up.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Music reviews, especially places like Pitchfork, The New Yorker, historically
they sort of did the indie and the alternative things,
and they kind of were taste makers, and that's how
you found a lot of your music if you were
really into music. They sort of sidestepped people like Taylor
Swift other pop artists, and in a lot of ways,
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I think they judged pop music differently and sort of
talked about rock or alternative or indie being more important
than something like Taylor Swift. The pendulum I think swung
way the other way. There's a term that they use
called poptimism, which is the idea that pop deserves the
same critical respect as rock. And some now though, think
that we've gone way too far into poptimism and you
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can't have critical thought about music, especially pop music, because
the people who are writing these stories about music musicians
are worried that if they say something negative about Taylor
Swift that her fans are going to show up at
her house.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I mean, I gotta tell you right off the bat,
Swifty right here so much respect for what she does.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Missed the aras to her. By the way, we're all
big Taylor Swift fans. To the Taylor Swift army out there,
don't come to our houses.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yes, please now. But it's a tale as old as time,
the pendulum swinging. You know, pop music has been around
in different forms forever. You know, beatles were pop, you know,
before that fifties it was all kind of Sinatra and
the pop music really pop, and then the sixties come along,
beatles evolve, then they become more heady. Then it's more
thoughtful in cite it, you know, insightful. Then when times
are tough, people just want to dance. They want to
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kind of forget about the times at hand. And like
what Andy was mentioning, when we kind of came up,
it was the hipster area where you needed to be
super cool. Yeah, and pop was not cool at that time.
But now it's coming back around where pop is it
is quote unquote cool and it's not cool to be
quote unquote mean to someone, right, I think because they
like yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Pop, yeah, And there's no negative reviews anymore, because everything
has a merit on its own, which is kind of
frustrating to you because then it seems like, you know,
I don't know that anybody really is reading any of
these reviews to get their music. I think they're getting
it through all these other places.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Like I think so too.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And I think the people that actually did read reviews
back in the day were music lovers, and you would
read it in a magazine because you went and searched
out Rolling Stone things like that. But now everyone is
a critic and wants to share their opinion and they
can with this great thing called the Internet and social media,
and with a show like The.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Voice, for instance, when people get to come on and
they get to really be seen as their actual selves,
not you know, as in a television show, not in
these sort of hyper little moments of virality chasing the
algorithm or whatever. I almost feel like it feels more
honest and kind of quaint. Well, yeah, it's and it's
(21:29):
really interesting, I think. And full disclosure, I actually work
on the show in the capacity of digital and social content,
so like a yes and to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And that's what I think is so cool about the show.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You have the show that's on NBC, and you watch
that and you see who they are, and you get
this big kind of like background package. You get to
know them a little bit, but then you also get
to see them on your phone and you get to
see the little bits of it. And then I think
that's also the reach now is incredible. It's reaching more
people than ever.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, And I think in some ways it's cool because
you can be your own promoter and you are your
own record label. But at the same time, it's like,
I know, a lot of the gripes that I see
for musicians right now is that they're not spending time
making music.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They have become social media.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Every marketer. They're doing everything. To quote Charles Dickens, it's
the best of times. It was the worst of times.
I mean, that's where we are. I think with me,
he brought the Dickens, you guys, I did. I had
to little cliche there, but no, I mean, I think
there's a lot of amazingness with the Internet and you know,
being able to be in your bedroom and make a
song that everyone hears. But then there's a lot of
you know, negatives to it too, where like we're not
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gathering outside the venue to buy tickets or get in
and having a ex sense of community and like, you know,
fostering a young act in Los Angeles anymore. The Sunset
Strip is dead. It's it's just a different kind of
pros and constant and fandom.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It feels like is only reserved for the Uber Huge,
the Taylor Swift, the Beyonce, et cetera. And I don't
think there's the sort of excitement and the craziness like
where you know, you and I maybe in high school
would have waited out for any old band for hours
to see them.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Oh yeah, And it's harder to you know, get any
information about them. We didn't know about their life. Maybe
we saw one thing in a magazine or something, but.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We'll continue this conversation and then we're gonna go way
back to the golden era of music in Los Angeles.
We'll talk about some of the LA music scene stories
from way back in the day. We're gonna hit on
some yacht rock, maybe some petty love it, love it
both for that's all coming up here. It's later with
Mo Kelly. I'm Andi Esmier.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I'm Andy Reesmire in fourbo on this Thursday evening
in studio here with Jack Primavera, who also, in addition
to being a good friend, works on the television show
The Voice.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hello Alone The Coaches.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
This season, we've got some good ones and what a
representation of music at the moment. But we have Snoop Dogg,
Reba McIntyre. Heck yeah, yeah, exactly, both both amazing. Michael
Boublay also amazing, and Nile Horn formerly of One Direction
fame and now an amazing solo artist in his own right.
That's a spread, right there.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Is Michael Boublay as in person as he appears.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes on camera, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And I will say I've had the privilege of being
able to you know, we always do like coach performances,
whether they're together or they they'll perform a song of
their own or even with their teams somethingaw. Michael is
a performer. I'm sure he puts on a show.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And to be that close to somebody that huge, and
to even listen to him to I'm sure have you
heard him sing like without a microphone even before or.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Just like being on one of our coaches from previous season.
He's coming back in twenty nine. John Legend do a
show with him called Trailer Talk. It's like a backstage
kind of thing, like our version of a tiny yes
if you will, just him and a keyboard and it's
just incredible and it's like pinch me, kind of like
sixteen year old Jack when we were in Miscorpending's class'd be.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like, Helloa, you brought me to see one of my
favorite bands of all time, Tears for Fears, And I
was fifteen feet away from Rolling and from Kurt watching
them do Everybody Wants to Rule the World? Yeah, like
seven times. It was like the one of the greatest
moments of my life. Yeah, because that, you know, the
set is relatively small compared to where you would normally
(25:04):
see these huge acts.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
There's not a bad seat in the house. No, yes,
and it's honestly, anyone wants to come to the taping
of the show. It's like a concert.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You just called Jack Primavera and then then he'll walk
you on the lot from Coachella or from Coaches rather
to Coachella. Like that, pop music taken over Coachella once again.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, to our conversation earlier about pop music, it's three
pop headliners. You know, you got some rock, you got
some hip hop, you got some kind of country in there.
I know their stage coach, but uh but yeah, three
powerhouse pop artists and of course Justin Bieber that people
are very excited about this Willy here or won't hear
you think?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I think he will? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
You know, he came back with two strong albums. Great
records are what you know. The critics, we can go
back to our conversation. But people are liking it, and
and yeah, I think he's going to And he's been
a guest a few times, so I wonder who he
brings out.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
But it sold out.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I mean both weekends sold out quicker than it has previously.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't even think it sold out last year. All
so this is different. And you know that pop thing
obviously does move the needle. It gets people excited into
the seats. Let's go back way before there ever was
a Coachella, to when it was just the Coachella Valley
and another valley was producing rock stars left and right.
We'll talk about the San Fernando Valley. Oh yes, up
(26:20):
in Sherman Oaks, you had the Boys of Toto. Over
in Woodland Hills, you had Tom Petty and his Heartbreakers.
When you look at even just a little bit further
south there to pank A Canyon, that was a scene.
Laurel Canyon obviously a huge scene. My heart breaks a
little bit for LA because I think that it's just
(26:42):
as similarly with television and movies.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It is not what it used to be.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yes, and I will admit I was not alive during
a good chunk of those scenes. However, I mean, it
is pretty incredible to think that Laurel Canyon I was
driving through it the other day, and it used to
be the cheap place to live. That's where all musicians
were able to, you know, get their start and live cheaply,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I know different.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
There's still a lot of people who live there who
are musicians. Yeah, but they're like very well off. They
have Grammys. Because of the history of it too. It's
a desirable place and it's not like a bunch of
starving artists are hanging out Laurel Canyon anymore. But they
are still making music and there's people who have little
studios in their homes. We've been to many of them,
and I just wonder, you know, when you think about
(27:27):
the scenes throughout history, like what would it take for
LA to have another scene?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Ooh.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I mean, it's kind of goes back to what we
were talking about with technology, is like scenes are tough
because now everything is at our tips the tips of
our fingers with our phones. Like you know, the scene
is your little community online in a lot of ways.
So I don't know, I can see to spin this
to the positive. I could see people wanting to make
a scene. And you know, when we were just out
(27:55):
there first out in LA, it was the kind of
Silver Lake lounge scene. Oh yes, you know, I thought
that was a pretty fun scene. And I'm sure there's
scenes that we just might not even know about, but
we don't get invited anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We're too old and out of the cool thing. Yeah,
let us know. I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I WoT.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I know there are a couple of scenes happening in
South LA. There's and especially like towards towards downtown Boyle Heights,
there was a really cool punk rock scene for a while, Yes, right,
and that was really neat. That was happening a few
years ago, maybe before the pandemic. I'm not sure what
that's like now, but I think about the days of
the old studio musicians like the guys from Toto specifically.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Oh yeah, yah, the Clive Brothers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, just up in Valley Village, went to high school
in the Valley. All of a sudden, seventies eighties come around.
They're unbelievable musicians. They know each other from the neighborhood,
and then they start making records and you know, obviously
the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And they still basically sell out the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, and before them, you know the Wrecking Crew. You
know LA of course, you know, after New York City
was the big music boom, it was LA starting in
the sixties, and everyone came out there. You either lived
there and stayed because you're a musician, or like Tom
Petting the Heartbreakers, you moved out here to be close
to music.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right, What do you think is the draw in a
non sort of people came out here because that was
where the industry, that was the scene. Yeah, why was
the scene the only place?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You couldn't do it back like where we're from in Indiana,
there just wasn't the scene to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
No, And I don't think that there's a lot of
compelling reasons for people to come here now.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what do you think could happen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What would happen that maybe could make people want to
create like an LA music scene Again, Well, to quote
one of our good buddies, Peter Dory, is it Charles Dickens.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No a good buddy.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Peter Dorty once said, what do you think punk rock
is going to be one day? Is the kind of
revolt against AI and all these algorithms and the online world.
I certainly hope so people like the most punk rock
thing is a mandolin, you know, like like an acoustic instrument.
So people like being together in a space. I'm optimistic
that'll come back.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think you see that.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And to take it back to Justin bieber Dejohn for instance,
who produced a lot of rot roll the songs on
that new record. Even the way that he put music
together was four or five dudes in a room and
you just dude, non gender. So don't don't tweet me
playing music. Yes, live filming it, and that's the music video.
That's the thing that goes on Spotify. H That's the
(30:13):
thing that we get shared over and over again. And
that's how you see real talent, because especially now, if
you see how easy it is to make anything with AI,
it's a way different world.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, and I think people are gonna want that human touch.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, said Jack rumervera thank you so much for coming here.
And The Voice Season twenty eight on NBC Now, KFI
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Speaker 1 (30:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Later with Moe Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
But this is Andy Reesmeyer. I'm in for mo tonight.
I'll be with you all the way until ten PM.
We got a great show for you this evening. So
much is happening. Dodgers clinching Fourth Street NL West title.
It's the twelfth in their last thirteen years that happened
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We'll talk a little about that.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Also, California slang, what kids are saying these days is
absolutely absurd. The words that they're using might as well
be in a different language. And I swear it's different
than when I was a kid. I think there was
some through line between young people content when I was
a teenager. At least my parents understood us, like the
(00:50):
words we were saying. We'll get into that and a
lot of people googling those California the slang rather here
in California because they want to know what these things mean.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That's a chuzz What is.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What else have we got on here? We've got all
kinds of crazy ones. We've got bops sharking. We spoke
to an actual young person earlier today on the KTLA
Morning News. I'm going to play that and then we
will open up the phone lines here and have everybody
call in and let us know what you think about
these things. I think that we're slowly in a place
where the young people all of a sudden. This is
(01:26):
not maybe going to happen overnight, but it'll be quick.
We'll just basically become a completely different society. I know
that that's always been the thing. Teenagers have always been different. Whatever,
But there you go. Also, the big news today, Comy,
James Comy has been indicted. This was something we expected
(01:49):
to be coming, but it really came down at around
four o'clock this afternoon. Of course, he's a long time
adversary of President Trump. Now is the first senior governmental
official to face federal charges in one of Trump's largest grievances.
CNN says the federal grand jury indicted him today. Both
(02:10):
charges relate to a testimony in September of twenty twenty
to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Comy said he did not
authorize someone at the FBI to be an anonymous source,
and later, of course, they're alleging that that was false.
The charges were presented by Lindsay Halligan, who is Trump's president,
Trump's former personal attorney now the top prosecutor in the
(02:32):
Eastern District of Virginia, will of course keep you updated
on that if we'll get any information. I don't expect
them to have any information tonight on that, but that
is the big story in other news, at least as
far as the Internet and the president is confirmed. About
an hour ago, Reuters reporting that Trump assigned an order
(02:52):
declaring TikTok is now partially at least an American company.
The executive order declares that the plan to sell TikTok
to a US based operator is basically to address national
security requirements that were part of a law from twenty
(03:15):
twenty four. The interesting thing about this is that the company,
at least the new US version of TikTok, is valued
at around fourteen billion. I know that sounds like a
lot of money. I would take fourteen billion dollars for
Gina Aantos. Would you do fourteen bill?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean, hello, Tony, what do we think about fourteen bill?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I can make that work. You can make it work.
But here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The company values itself at more than three hundred and thirty
billion dollars. I like that concept. You may think I'm
only worth fourteen, but I think I'm worth three hundred
and thirty billion, so that's kind of interesting. And another
independent analyst says that TikTok was somewhere worth between thirty
billion and forty billion dollars without the algorithm, So that
(03:59):
of course an update in social media world. But what
I really want to talk about, which is what I
teased a little bit earlier, are these slang terms. Like
I said, people really just have a hard time knowing
what young people are saying. And we talk a lot
(04:20):
about generational divides, things that are different between people who
are older and younger, and I swear with the Internet
it's getting more and more difficult, and maybe the social
media is like putting us into these boxes where we
have to feel like my age group really defines who
I am, even though as we know, as we've talked
about many times on the Weekend Show or on KTLA,
(04:44):
generations are basically just made up, especially if you're an
old man with a young wife. But research by unscrambler
dot com analyzed slang related Google searches starting at the
beginning of this year. The number one top search slang
term is and if you have kids, you've probably heard
(05:05):
them say this six seven. It originated from a rapper
who's from Philadelphia's name Scrilla. He has a song and
basically on on TikTok, they edited the song with a
clip about LaMelo Ball and it's a reference to his height.
If you don't understand this, I totally get it, And
(05:26):
if you hate it, I also understand it. But basically
six to seven doesn't mean anything. It's like filler word.
It's like brain rot that the kids are just saying
and they try to like run around and get each
other to say it, and they think it's really funny.
The randomness of it is what's so funny. Other things
include chopped, ugly or undesirable? Did you know about this one?
(05:50):
Forgina shaking her head, yes she's heard chopped. Oh yeah, okay,
so am I like an old man being Well, I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Old too, I'm an older millennial, So you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Know I don't hear chopped in common conversation. How about sigma?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, but only because TikTok keeps showing me the kids
that are like the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Mom's mind were talking, But no one in real life
has said these things.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Bop, Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
One bop to me meant like a good song like
that is a bop, Like you could say free Fallen
is a bop by Tom Petty that apparently is a
person with many sexual partners.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, it's like the girls that are on OnlyFans are bops.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They're bops. This is confusing because if you're like I,
it's so confusing.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I say it wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I discovered a great bop last night that sounds so bad,
and I'm referring to a song, a yacht rock tune
that's not what young people would think. Sharking apparently is
looking for casual hookups, Clanker is a derogatory slang for robots.
That's a joke, No one actually says that, and chuzz
apparently means an unattractive man. It's a blend of chopped
(06:59):
and huzz, which is or for a husband. These people don't,
We're losing our humanity. Other things include glazing that means
excessive flattery, phantom tax, taking a friend's food, slop which
is low effort AI content, and are a farming doing
something online mostly just to look cool for cloud. Most slang,
(07:23):
of course, now spreads through TikTok, Instagram, meme, culture, whatever,
and so it gets to kids faster than ever. That
I think is the major difference is that I think
if you looked across the country, maybe even the world,
they probably these kids maybe I said teenagers a little younger,
would probably all have the same frame of reference for slang,
(07:44):
which I think is totally different from when we were kids.
And I tested this today because I asked some of
my coworkers about this. We talk about chopped as a
stand in for ugly. This is also sad, by the way,
But when we were young in Indiana, you would say, oh,
that person is hit terrible, but in California you would
(08:06):
say that person is beat.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I I don't know what all this means. I don't
know where we're going as a people, but we'll get there.
Eight hundred five too one five three four. That's the
phone number. Give us a call, tell tell us about
these the slang terms if your kids are saying them.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
If you say them eight.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hundred five two zero one five three four, Matthew will
open up the phone lines there. We'll take your calls, put.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You on the air.
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But if you it's a little less pressure to do
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And if you want to call, like I said, eight
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five to zero one KFI Andy Reesmier in here for
mo Kelly Tonight. Lots of show tonight coming up. We're
going to talk about a review of the fire response
from Los Angeles in both the Eton and the Palisades fire.
Plus a viral parking app in San Francisco was shut
(09:25):
down hours after it was launched. It was supposed to
help you find out where the meter maids were. Then
the city said nope, We'll get into that coming up
in just a little bit. KFI AM six forty live
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Oh well, we haven't seen each other in a while
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to us, ladies.
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History, Brigida. No, ladies, I know, don't I know. I
shouldn't have done it.
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Well, it's more complicated enough, Brigita d Augustino. Everyone's like,
oh my gosh, what are you doing to us?
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I think it's got a lot of good continents, got
a lot of good vowels. Santos is good too. I'm
just Andy Reesmeyer.
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You can find me on the internet at andy ktla
if you'd like to, if you'd like to say hello,
we're taking calls right now, eight hundred and five two
zero one KFI. Always happy to hear from everybody. We
were talking a little bit about slaying that young people,
and we're talking about gen Z but also even younger
like Jen Alpha, people born between the years of twenty
(10:44):
ten and now so fifteen year old. I don't know
a lot of people in general, let alone I don't
have kids, so I have no interaction with children for
the most part. But a lot of interesting conversations came
from that. We talked to somebody earlier today who is
in that generation. We'll check on that a little bit later.
(11:05):
I don't want to go up to San Francisco where
something wild has occurred.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Francisco, you've probably have gotten a parking ticket or two.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Maybe it's because your meter expired.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Now, the engineer Riley ol Weiss, he says he just
loves data, and he says his app was supposed to
be all part of a big data experiment.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, So what happened was there was an app that
went viral and it was tracking parking cops in the
city of San Francisco. It was up for about four
hours before the city pulled the plug. It was called
find My Parking Cops. And essentially what you were doing
is checking this map and you could see people writing tickets.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Ticket cops.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They're actually cops up in San Francisco who write the tickets,
not in Los Angeles. It's parking enforcement, but you could
see where they were, and I think insensibly so you
could see if they were heading your way when if
you had to move of your car, put some more
money in that meter.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Out to get the parking cops like, I respect their
work and stuff.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Software engineer Riley Waltz doesn't have a car and he's
never gotten a parking ticket, but his friends and roommate
have gotten plenty of them.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Open our mailbox, I just see those tickets. So that
was kind of what inspired it was just seeing those.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
He decided to create an app called Find My Parking Cops,
using SFMTA data already posted online for the public to see.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
I'm usually had a nerd like this is just really
cool data to look at.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Waltz says his app was supposed to be a tool
to help drivers in San Francisco.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
It's a riff off of Find My Friends. I was
able to reverse engineer the SF parking ticket system so
I can see kind of close to real time where
parking tickets were issued in the city.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then I was.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
Making a map of like where the actual parking cops
were as they traversed the city and issue tickets.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I am a nerd I don't think that I make
any bones about that, but I am so jealous to
someone who could be as smart and so excited to
do so much.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
Math in theoryavy you could use that to avoid them
avoid a ticket.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
The app went viral, but within four hours SFMTA put
a stop to Waltz's project.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
They changed their site so I couldn't scrape the data
from their site anymore.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And the city says we welcome creative uses of technology
to encourage legal parking, but we also want to make
sure our employees are able to do their job safely
and without disruption. They shut it down a lot of
comments saying we want transparency. Where is the transparency? Others saying, oh,
(13:36):
now you care, Now you care about the officers. By
the way, parking enforcement in San Francisco is reportedly up.
They're writing more tickets to try to help with a
three hundred and twenty two million dollar deficit. We've been
checking back and forth for that app. Find my parking cops.
(13:56):
You could just google it. Rightley Wallace is the guy
who made it. Nothing still not up, so unfortunately, you'll
just have to keep feeding the meter.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Jack Primavera will join us talk about the state of
music in southern California. He works on the television show
The Voice. They are coming back for season I think
three hundred and seventy five, three hundred and seventy six.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Maybe you have to check my math on that one.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We're going to talk about the new season and also
just sort of what it's like to be a musician
now in twenty twenty five in the world of AI
and also streaming and consolidation.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's tough to get people to watch your stuff and
listen to it. But now we're checking in with Prgina Degastino.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
He Mandy Reesmaer in four the aforementioned mo Kelly on
this Thursday, the twenty fifth of September, just past seven
point thirty here, nice day, still a little humid there,
temperatures coming down though, especially in the valley. I was
out working. I was working in the in the yard, sweating,
had to chain shirts before I got to rinsed off
before I came in out. That's how you know it's serious.
(15:14):
We have a collar online from coast to Mesa, California,
where the weather is always perfect, Scott. You're on later
with Mo Kelly with Andy Reesemeyer.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Well, hello there. Yeah, I wanted to comment on sort
of like the how kids are morphing words and stuff
like that. Yeah, it reminded me of growing up in
high school, junior high school. You know, back in those days,
we didn't have internet or anything like that, but there
was always a couple of kids who they actually made
(15:47):
their own language, you know, they they made it like
klang on or whatever. That's the world. They knew what
they were talking about, right, It was pretty ingenious and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But do you remember any of the terms were you
Were you aware of that language? Did you speak it
or did you just know of it?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
No? I just kind of laughed them are they?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But now it seems like everybody is doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Well exactly, And I think that's technology that spreads it all.
And you know, I'm I'm okay with laugh out loud
or om g, you know, those abbreviations and stuff like that.
But I don't know when you get into those big
words as double double meaning and stuff like that. My
(16:34):
nephew does that to me, and oh it totally does.
But I just throw back. Oh, DC was like, what
does that mean? Don't care?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't care?
Speaker 6 (16:50):
And he he's learned that, don't do that with me,
you know, speak normal. Yeah, and it worked, you know,
and it's you know, I don't want to like preuss
his soul or anything like that, but you know, it's
just these things that is so exhausting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, I would, I would agree with you. There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Well, thank you so much for Colin as always good
to hear from you, Scott. There in Coasta Mesa, California,
where it's exhausting, but at least you have a good
I mean, you're.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
In Coast to Mesa. How life is great.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Speaking of great life, I'm so happy to invite and
welcome one of my closest friends of all time, mister
Jack Primavera live here in studio.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hello, Hello, Andy, I'm so honored to be here. This
is so great because you and I have known each
other forever. We went to high school together. We've both
to miss Corpenning's class in sophomore year of high school,
and I think I failed it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm sure you did really well.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
In English class. I think I did. Think I did
do well. You probably did. But we've both been in
music in different ways. I was in a band.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You came out to LA to do music and work
in music and the music business. You now work on
the voice or you have worked on the voice for
the past many.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Season twenty nineteen, since season sixteen, and you're just about
to start season We just this week had our premiere
of season twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Amazing. Yes, so you're a vet.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You know there are people that have been on it,
including one of my editors, since season one. It's an
incredible show and it still keeps going.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And employs a lot of people in Southern California in
the entertainment business, which I feel like is a rare
thing these days.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yes, one hundredercent, and I shout out to the show
that we made it through the COVID era, the strikes,
and day just kept going. It's an amazing show.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
So we were talking about music in general and sort
of like what it is to be a musician these days,
and you know the.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
World that it used to be.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I feel like when we were first growing up or
first starting out in music.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
When we were growing up.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Music reviews, especially places like Pitchfork, The New Yorker, historically
they sort of did the indie and the alternative things,
and they kind of were taste makers, and that's how
you found a lot of your music if you were
really into music. They sort of sidestepped people like Taylor
Swift other pop artists, and in a lot of ways,
(19:07):
I think they judged pop music differently and sort of
talked about rock or alternative or indie being more important
than something like Taylor Swift. The pendulum I think swung
way the other way. There's a term that they use
called poptimism, which is the idea that pop deserves the
same critical respect as rock. And some now though, think
that we've gone way too far into poptimism and you
(19:30):
can't have critical thought about music, especially pop music, because
the people who are writing these stories about music musicians
are worried that if they say something negative about Taylor
Swift that her fans are going to show up at
her house.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I mean, I gotta tell you right off the bat,
Swifty right here so much respect for what she does.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Missed the aras to her. By the way, we're all
big Taylor Swift fans. To the Taylor Swift army out there,
don't come to our houses.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yes, please now. But it's a tale as old as time,
the pendulum swinging. You know, pop music has been around
in different forms forever. You know, beatles were pop, you know,
before that fifties it was all kind of Sinatra and
the pop music really pop, and then the sixties come along,
beatles evolve, then they become more heady. Then it's more
thoughtful in cite it, you know, insightful. Then when times
are tough, people just want to dance. They want to
(20:18):
kind of forget about the times at hand. And like
what Andy was mentioning, when we kind of came up,
it was the hipster area where you needed to be
super cool. Yeah, and pop was not cool at that time.
But now it's coming back around where pop is it
is quote unquote cool and it's not cool to be
quote unquote mean to someone, right, I think because they
like yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Pop, yeah, And there's no negative reviews anymore, because everything
has a merit on its own, which is kind of
frustrating to you because then it seems like, you know,
I don't know that anybody really is reading any of
these reviews to get their music. I think they're getting
it through all these other places.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Like I think so too.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And I think the people that actually did read reviews
back in the day were music lovers, and you would
read it in a magazine because you went and searched
out Rolling Stone things like that. But now everyone is
a critic and wants to share their opinion and they
can with this great thing called the Internet and social media,
and with a show like The.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Voice, for instance, when people get to come on and
they get to really be seen as their actual selves,
not you know, as in a television show, not in
these sort of hyper little moments of virality chasing the
algorithm or whatever. I almost feel like it feels more
honest and kind of quaint. Well, yeah, it's and it's
(21:29):
really interesting, I think. And full disclosure, I actually work
on the show in the capacity of digital and social content,
so like a yes and to the show.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And that's what I think is so cool about the show.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
You have the show that's on NBC, and you watch
that and you see who they are, and you get
this big kind of like background package. You get to
know them a little bit, but then you also get
to see them on your phone and you get to
see the little bits of it. And then I think
that's also the reach now is incredible. It's reaching more
people than ever.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, And I think in some ways it's cool because
you can be your own promoter and you are your
own record label. But at the same time, it's like,
I know, a lot of the gripes that I see
for musicians right now is that they're not spending time
making music.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
They have become social media.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Every marketer. They're doing everything. To quote Charles Dickens, it's
the best of times. It was the worst of times.
I mean, that's where we are. I think with me,
he brought the Dickens, you guys, I did. I had
to little cliche there, but no, I mean, I think
there's a lot of amazingness with the Internet and you know,
being able to be in your bedroom and make a
song that everyone hears. But then there's a lot of
you know, negatives to it too, where like we're not
(22:30):
gathering outside the venue to buy tickets or get in
and having a ex sense of community and like, you know,
fostering a young act in Los Angeles anymore. The Sunset
Strip is dead. It's it's just a different kind of
pros and constant and fandom.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It feels like is only reserved for the Uber Huge,
the Taylor Swift, the Beyonce, et cetera. And I don't
think there's the sort of excitement and the craziness like
where you know, you and I maybe in high school
would have waited out for any old band for hours
to see them.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Oh yeah, And it's harder to you know, get any
information about them. We didn't know about their life. Maybe
we saw one thing in a magazine or something, but.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We'll continue this conversation and then we're gonna go way
back to the golden era of music in Los Angeles.
We'll talk about some of the LA music scene stories
from way back in the day. We're gonna hit on
some yacht rock, maybe some petty love it, love it
both for that's all coming up here. It's later with
Mo Kelly. I'm Andi Esmier.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, I'm Andy Reesmire in fourbo on this Thursday evening
in studio here with Jack Primavera, who also, in addition
to being a good friend, works on the television show
The Voice.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Hello Alone The Coaches.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
This season, we've got some good ones and what a
representation of music at the moment. But we have Snoop Dogg,
Reba McIntyre. Heck yeah, yeah, exactly, both both amazing. Michael
Boublay also amazing, and Nile Horn formerly of One Direction
fame and now an amazing solo artist in his own right.
That's a spread, right there.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Is Michael Boublay as in person as he appears.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes on camera, Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And I will say I've had the privilege of being
able to you know, we always do like coach performances,
whether they're together or they they'll perform a song of
their own or even with their teams somethingaw. Michael is
a performer. I'm sure he puts on a show.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And to be that close to somebody that huge, and
to even listen to him to I'm sure have you
heard him sing like without a microphone even before or.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Just like being on one of our coaches from previous season.
He's coming back in twenty nine. John Legend do a
show with him called Trailer Talk. It's like a backstage
kind of thing, like our version of a tiny yes
if you will, just him and a keyboard and it's
just incredible and it's like pinch me, kind of like
sixteen year old Jack when we were in Miscorpending's class'd be.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like, Helloa, you brought me to see one of my
favorite bands of all time, Tears for Fears, And I
was fifteen feet away from Rolling and from Kurt watching
them do Everybody Wants to Rule the World? Yeah, like
seven times. It was like the one of the greatest
moments of my life. Yeah, because that, you know, the
set is relatively small compared to where you would normally
(25:04):
see these huge acts.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
There's not a bad seat in the house. No, yes,
and it's honestly, anyone wants to come to the taping
of the show. It's like a concert.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You just called Jack Primavera and then then he'll walk
you on the lot from Coachella or from Coaches rather
to Coachella. Like that, pop music taken over Coachella once again.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, to our conversation earlier about pop music, it's three
pop headliners. You know, you got some rock, you got
some hip hop, you got some kind of country in there.
I know their stage coach, but uh but yeah, three
powerhouse pop artists and of course Justin Bieber that people
are very excited about this Willy here or won't hear
you think?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I think he will? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
You know, he came back with two strong albums. Great
records are what you know. The critics, we can go
back to our conversation. But people are liking it, and
and yeah, I think he's going to And he's been
a guest a few times, so I wonder who he
brings out.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
But it sold out.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I mean both weekends sold out quicker than it has previously.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I don't even think it sold out last year. All
so this is different. And you know that pop thing
obviously does move the needle. It gets people excited into
the seats. Let's go back way before there ever was
a Coachella, to when it was just the Coachella Valley
and another valley was producing rock stars left and right.
We'll talk about the San Fernando Valley. Oh yes, up
(26:20):
in Sherman Oaks, you had the Boys of Toto. Over
in Woodland Hills, you had Tom Petty and his Heartbreakers.
When you look at even just a little bit further
south there to pank A Canyon, that was a scene.
Laurel Canyon obviously a huge scene. My heart breaks a
little bit for LA because I think that it's just
(26:42):
as similarly with television and movies.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It is not what it used to be.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yes, and I will admit I was not alive during
a good chunk of those scenes. However, I mean, it
is pretty incredible to think that Laurel Canyon I was
driving through it the other day, and it used to
be the cheap place to live. That's where all musicians
were able to, you know, get their start and live cheaply,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And I know different.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
There's still a lot of people who live there who
are musicians. Yeah, but they're like very well off. They
have Grammys. Because of the history of it too. It's
a desirable place and it's not like a bunch of
starving artists are hanging out Laurel Canyon anymore. But they
are still making music and there's people who have little
studios in their homes. We've been to many of them,
and I just wonder, you know, when you think about
(27:27):
the scenes throughout history, like what would it take for
LA to have another scene?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Ooh.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I mean, it's kind of goes back to what we
were talking about with technology, is like scenes are tough
because now everything is at our tips the tips of
our fingers with our phones. Like you know, the scene
is your little community online in a lot of ways.
So I don't know, I can see to spin this
to the positive. I could see people wanting to make
a scene. And you know, when we were just out
(27:55):
there first out in LA, it was the kind of
Silver Lake lounge scene. Oh yes, you know, I thought
that was a pretty fun scene. And I'm sure there's
scenes that we just might not even know about, but
we don't get invited anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We're too old and out of the cool thing. Yeah,
let us know. I'm coming.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
I WoT.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I know there are a couple of scenes happening in
South LA. There's and especially like towards towards downtown Boyle Heights,
there was a really cool punk rock scene for a while, Yes, right,
and that was really neat. That was happening a few
years ago, maybe before the pandemic. I'm not sure what
that's like now, but I think about the days of
the old studio musicians like the guys from Toto specifically.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Oh yeah, yah, the Clive Brothers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, just up in Valley Village, went to high school
in the Valley. All of a sudden, seventies eighties come around.
They're unbelievable musicians. They know each other from the neighborhood,
and then they start making records and you know, obviously
the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And they still basically sell out the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, and before them, you know the Wrecking Crew. You
know LA of course, you know, after New York City
was the big music boom, it was LA starting in
the sixties, and everyone came out there. You either lived
there and stayed because you're a musician, or like Tom
Petting the Heartbreakers, you moved out here to be close
to music.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right, What do you think is the draw in a
non sort of people came out here because that was
where the industry, that was the scene. Yeah, why was
the scene the only place?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You couldn't do it back like where we're from in Indiana,
there just wasn't the scene to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
No, And I don't think that there's a lot of
compelling reasons for people to come here now.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what do you think could happen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What would happen that maybe could make people want to
create like an LA music scene Again, Well, to quote
one of our good buddies, Peter Dory, is it Charles Dickens.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No a good buddy.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Peter Dorty once said, what do you think punk rock
is going to be one day? Is the kind of
revolt against AI and all these algorithms and the online world.
I certainly hope so people like the most punk rock
thing is a mandolin, you know, like like an acoustic instrument.
So people like being together in a space. I'm optimistic
that'll come back.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think you see that.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And to take it back to Justin bieber Dejohn for instance,
who produced a lot of rot roll the songs on
that new record. Even the way that he put music
together was four or five dudes in a room and
you just dude, non gender. So don't don't tweet me
playing music. Yes, live filming it, and that's the music video.
That's the thing that goes on Spotify. H That's the
(30:13):
thing that we get shared over and over again. And
that's how you see real talent, because especially now, if
you see how easy it is to make anything with AI,
it's a way different world.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, and I think people are gonna want that human touch.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, said Jack rumervera thank you so much for coming here.
And The Voice Season twenty eight on NBC Now, KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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