August 26, 2025 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with thoughts on the serial 'butt sniffer' lurking in Burbank…PLUS – A look at the Democrat "who believes in capitalism" that could be California’s Governor AND the drama dragging along the release of the “Epstein Files” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Mark, I'm gonna call you out early.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was doing the Sunday Show yesterday and you and
I got called out by one of the listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't believe it. It's true, okay, true, and what
have we done?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well? He's asked you to bring your A game to
what exactly? Well, here it is. Here's what he said. Chris.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I can't wait to hear you in the mo Kelly
Show tomorrow. Mark, you guys are crazy. I want to
bet with my wife because I totally would take three
to five seconds for you and Mark to say something crazy.
You guys talked about Jimmy Carter and his uh blown.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
A dark urine.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Hey, while you're there, can you ask if why don't
mo Kelly take on a kareemabdul jabban as far. I'll
pay fifty bucks on that the old versus the bold.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That was a lot. Okay, that is a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And so what was the crazy thing that we were
alleged to have said?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
At some point we must have talked about Jimmy Carter
having glown the dark urine.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I don't know when we did that, but we must
have done that at some point.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I don't recall that, but I stand by it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean it made sense right, probably abducted that
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Are you sure that was us? I'll stand by it anyway, No,
I'm not. And even though I'm not sure it was us.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So we are more than three to five seconds in,
and as a courtesy to that man's wife, we have
not said anything too absurd quite yet.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Well, I believe in you.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thank you. Let's put our noses in some butts.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, the Cereal butt sniffer is at it again. This
is the guy that was just arrested not so long ago.
He's been picked up one more time, this time for
a mall in.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Burbank, and the registered sex offender that made headlines for
sniffing women's butts have been has been arrested again. Thirty
eight year old Chalice Crowder was re arrested Wednesday after
reports of yet another sniffing incident at a Walgreen store
in Burbank. This is video of prior incidents. Crowder was
already on parole.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You can't see video because it's.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Radio well and has a documented history of similar arrests
for lute conduct in both Glendale and Burbank dating back
to twenty twenty one. He's been charged with a felony
and is now being held without bail.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
All right, so keep your nose away from the techeese.
It feels like this would be a really easy topic
to take the low road, and normally I would so
to speak, but the load, thank you, the dirt road.
I love that when I'm in with Moe and you're here,
I actually have to play the straight man. Oh I
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love that, you think, yeah, okay, great, all right. I
absolutely love it. But we have actually an honor. The
most overqualified tech director we've ever had is Sam, who's
in here. And Sam is a therapist, and Sam also
does sex therapy, and Sam is studying this sort of
stuff as well, working at his PhD.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't know, Sam, what is the deal here? Is this?
You didn't want to drive uber or what's why are you?
I'm I'm not questioning it. I love it. This is
my goal lot.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
My sanity is at stake, and this is the only
place where I get my sanity. I wrote other people's
mental health, and this is the one place in the
universe where I feel like I'm sane.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You hear that, Twala, we are the normal people in
his world. I love it. Yeah, Okay, Sam, here's a dude.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Here's a dude that has already been picked up numerous
times for super creeping.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Is that fair to say super creeping?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The guy is following women at these different stories have
been caught on surveillance video, and he basically is sort
of crouching down like he's looking at something at a
bottom shelf. And then when the woman turns around that's
in the aisle ext I mean, he sort of sneaks
up behind her and just which Okay, I get that
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he has this odd fetish of some sort, right, And
I'm I'm not one to question somebody's fetishes. Everybody under themselves,
but this is criminal and he's been arrested for it before,
but he can't seem to stop himself. So let's without
examining the patient here, let's talk about what the possible
motivation could be. Why can he not control himself? What
(04:32):
is the compulsion? Why is it so strong that he
would do something like that. Again, you're not diagnosing, you're
just explaining how something like this could happen in the whild.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Well, I mean obviously there's impulse control issues and other
mental health factors going on there. I don't want to
go too deep into that stuff. But the fetish behind
it is, you know, he's pursuing the thing that he's
totally into. And usually I have no problem with people
and they're fetish fetishes, But the biggest issue here is
a matter of consent. The people who he has to
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engage in his personal fetish with are people who are
not consenting to what he's doing at all, and it's
a total invasion of their space, of their privacy, and
it is sexual harassment, sexual form of sexual assault.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Is it possible that part of his fetish is that
there's no consent.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Yeah, absolutely, And that's part of the problem here. And
you can if the way that we look at things
as far as mental health goes is that if it
doesn't cause you distress, then we can't make a diagnosis.
The problem is that he's violating other people's boundaries, and
that's what makes it criminal and diagnosable.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's because he's It may be.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Tied to some antisocial behavior, it may be tied to
some kind of other a few other things that we
can point at, but without you know, looking and interviewing
him and getting a full idea of what factors are
at play with him, you can look at just the
fact that he may have There's nothing wrong with having
a fetish at all. It's the fact that you're violating
other people's boundaries. If you're not harming yourself or harming
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others and it's not causing you distress, it's not a problem.
This is harming others and causing distress for others. It
may not bother him, obviously, he gets caught routinely in Burbank.
My biggest thing is like, how long anytime this guy
goes into a business, Why aren't the cops immediately there
just paying attention to him, Like there's cop cars everywhere
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in these shopping centers.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, and how many times are you going to get
arrested before we say, okay, we're not going to give
you the no cash bond or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The reason is that he's getting out so easily.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Like obviously a danger to the public here in Burbank.
He is the Burbank butt sniffer. His story has traveled,
it's gone viral across around the world. He is, he
is a well known figure here in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's kind of horrifying, isn't it funny though, that he's
gone viral around the world because we've turned him into
a two dimensional character. Like That's why I wanted to
talk to you about this, because, as you made mentioned,
there's so much more to it. There's other mental health issues,
there's other stuff happening with this guy.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And yet it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
To point at the goofy guy doing this really absurd
thing where while we talk about it being a form
of sexual assault, no, the women were super creeped out,
probably scared, But when we look at the video, we
don't see somebody being physically harmed. That's not to say
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there isn't some sort of mental harm that goes with it,
but we don't see the physical harm, So we almost
feel a license to laugh at the guy. But I
just feel like there's more to the story and I
don't know that we should necessarily dismiss it quite so easily.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, and the biggest part for me is the failing
of law enforcement. How can you let a guy who's
known as the serial Burbank butt sniffer find more opportunities
to sneak into a Walgreens or a Walmart or the
target an Empire Center and go and have his sniff about.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Low hanging fruit. He likes sniffing the low hanging fruit.
Oh oh man, I just how do you know?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I guess you kind of laid it out there a
little bit. When when the fetish is too much is
when it causes harm. That's sort of the harm principle.
Can't if it hurts you, if it hurts them, then
then all of a sudden we go, okay, this is
a problem. So how do you treat somebody that has
a compulsion that is harmful either to themselves or to others.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
That's you got to sit down and actually get to
the root of why that thing is there, why that
feeling is there. If there's ultimately like if this guy
has some severe mental health issues, then the thing you
have to do. No amount of talk therapy is gonna
get somebody who needs medication to be on medication. This
guy's got mental health issues and I can do talk
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therapy to get to the bottom of it, but I
won't necessarily be able to take his compulsion away. Yeah,
I can help him find ways to cope with it,
and if he notices that the compulsion is there, I
can help him find ways for him sol to avoid
getting himself into trouble. But I can't physically walk around
with him and keep him from engaging in his compulsion.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
No, of course not. And if you do walk around
with him, make him go first.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You see, Sam, This is why I have to I
mean my life was I ever the straight man, But
with Marner here, I got to be the guy that
that that maintains the balance on the ship.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
This is just what the Mark should know better.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's a really strange dynamic that I'm in. These are
valid observations.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And I'm wrong. I love that we just talked past
Mark favorite like he's not in the room.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I want to know when this is going to be
a Law and Order episode, because then I'm gonna watch Oh,
surely soon?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Hey, is this possible, Sam? Is it possible that our
serial Burbank butt sniffer. Is that this is like a
chemical thing or a physiological problem that he's having or Yeah,
as you made mentioned with the talk there. I mean
when you're in talk therapy, obviously you always say how
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
But we know what's gonna But they're gonna bring it
back to their childhood. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Ultimately, I'm going to dig around and find, you know,
in the past where this whole thing started, and helped
find ways to get to the bottom of all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
No pun intended, but the way. But you just said
and get to the bottom. I'm just saying, what's happening, Sam.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thanks for picking up up. I hate having to be
the mature one. This is really difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Guys. This is so challenging.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah, no, he's it could be something that's physiologically wrong
with the structure of his brain, it could.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Be something chemically off. That's why I was saying.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Medication may be the only way for him, but he
also needs to be consistent with it and have talk therapy,
so it's not just you know, covering up his issues
with medicine.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think he's gonna up doing a lot of time.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I don't know how much time he ends up doing, though,
because again, he didn't physically harm anyone, and our our
justice system isn't really set up for you know, you
scared the dickens out of somebody, or you gave this
woman PTSD. You know, he may get punished for that,
but I don't think they lock him up and throw
way the key for twenty years for that sort of thing,
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which means that people might potentially still be in danger
if he's not getting the help that he needs. I
don't know if the courts are gonna be able to mandate.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That or not.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
See, I tried to open the show with something very
immature and make it mature but unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You boys, boys are the worst unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If there is any advice I can offer you in life,
it is to think like a criminal, although you're gonna
have to think better than these did. What they're up
to is next time, Chris merriland from O Kelly to
Night KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Demand of the iHeartRadio app. We have another name in
the Governor Race. I'll tell you who that is coming
up here after marks seven thirty news. First you've heard
of being Rick rolled. How about rich rolled? That's the latest.
You heard ron A talking about this right at seven o'clock,
and that is the rich Roland bandits.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
We talked to alipdchief to Jim McDonald. He told us
that the ten person burglary crew are career criminals and
they're responsible for nearly one hundred home break ins across
the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's from ABC seven. So when you were a career criminal,
that's not the kind of thing that you just thinking.
You have careers going to your kids' school on career
Day and they ask you those questions like what kind
of training does one need to become this sort of career.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Nope, this crew, which had victimized families and businesses, is
no longer a threat to our neighborhoods.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
This morning, ALI leaders announcing the takedown of the rich
rule In burglary crew. The operation took place last Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
At five am on the twentieth.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Teams from West Los Angeles Area and Operations West Bureau,
along with detectives from North Hollywood, West Valley, Olympic, Hollywood,
Wiltshire and Central Areas Serve Warrens at eight residents across
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Take a look.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
This map shows you the neighborhoods across Los Angeles where
the break ins were happening.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I can see it. It's radio ninety.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Two took place in the city of Los Angeles, nearly
half in West la. An additional break in was reported
in Ellie County.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
Ten suspects, all adult career criminals with prior arrests for
violent and property crimes, had been identified.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Tenner confirmed gang members.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
The majority of the home break ins happened this year
and last year, but some date back to twenty twenty two.
Police officers recovered handguns, drugs at burglary tools, and stolen
property from designer purses to wallets and jewelry.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
These are not crimes of need, These are crimes of greed.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
I want the burglars and the robbers to know that
if we don't get you that day, we're going to
get you now, laped Chief Jim McDonnell, also telling us
that they do not believe that this specific burglary crew
is tied to the home break ins that we've seen
over the summer in the Encino area. But they want
the community to know they're working very hard behind the
scenes to make an arrest in those cases as well
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reporting in Los Angele.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So, how many crews do we have operating right now?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Didn't we put together a big task force to try
to take down organized crime? Wasn't that or organized theft rings?
Wasn't that supposed to happen? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah,
I guess this is evidence that they are. But how
many organized theft rings do we have if this one,
which was responsible for hundreds of crimes, is not related
to the other ones that are going on. And I
(14:31):
also didn't get the feeling that this is that South
American crime. Uh, I don't know what you call them, troubadours.
That's a different one all together too, right, Yes, that's
the problem. You take down one, another one pops up.
It's like hydra take down one to more pop up.
So I feel like we probably need the president to
(14:55):
militarize LA to make this stuff stop. Did you see
that all of the crime went away in DC?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, crime completely ceased to exist in DC. I mean
outside of the Capitol and the White House. But other
than that completely ceased to exist.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There is none. Well, we need some of that here,
that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, so more National Guard troops more just send in
the military joking of course they don't support sending in
the military to enforce domestic policy. However, I do want
to congratulate the LAPD and all the other partners who
got this done. And the chief Jim McDonalds, should take
(15:34):
a bow. That's great, he earned it. Happy to hear
about that. Would like to see more saw that this
really the big break in this case really came when
they made an arrest, as he said you heard in
the audio in February.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So they made this arrest in February, and.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He doesn't really connect the dots on how that arrest
turned into today's giant bust. So was it just solid
police work where we track the thing? You know, we
tracked down fingerprints and tire tracks?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What else? Mark?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You watch more crime shows on two B than I do,
so you probably know, uh what what?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Or was it that they got a snitch? Is that? What?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Did they get somebody to roll on everybody else? I
would only be guessing. Go on, I don't think. I
don't think I want to engage in conjecture. I think
the facts will come out pretty quick, especially it sounds
like they're promoting these arrests a great deal, so they
want us to know the details.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I want to know if they got if these guys snitched,
because you know what happens to snitches. I've heard yeah, yeah,
And I feel like like medical care in prison is
better than street medical care, but it's still not what
I would choose if I need stitches. Hey, oh, Sam's
(16:55):
a little he's not looking at the at the rim shot.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But no, he didn't even know where the roomshot button is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
OK, I just appreciate that the to Walla gave us
the courtesy left to make up for it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Thank you, You are welcome. Thank you, T Sharp, I
love you, buddy. Yeah, man, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
A new uh, We've got a new name in the
governor race. It's a name you may not have ever
heard of before, but I can't. I got a feeling
you're going to He may have some appeal, especially in
the Bay Area, but certainly leading some appeal here in
southern California as well.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's next.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Chris merril In from o Kelly KFI AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm Chris Merrill in for MO.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I just found myself going down the rabbit hole here
after I was listening to Mark's newscast.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
El Mio arrested, will die in prison, so's the prosecutor. Well,
he's seventy two and he's in poor health, so yeah,
that's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I didn't realize he was one of the founders of
the Sineloa cartel.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's uh. That's something which.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Means that if I go back and watch Narcos again,
I'm probably gonna see his character somewhere, aren't I.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh yeah, I gotta get caught up on that show too.
So good, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Having the name El Mile And then you end up
in an American prison. Everybody starts calling you Mayo, m
wontter how much influence he has in the American prisons,
Like do.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
These guys run the yard?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
He's gonna gang up right away, you think so, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You think they just instantly follow him or does he
have to does he have to you know, get jumped
or whatever to get into the gang.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Oh, this is where you're gonna start pulling out all
your prison terminology again.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, yeah, yeah, they have to jump him in or no, yeah, yeah,
jumped in.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I would assume that he is probably he earned some
status walking into the prison.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You realized he would.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He had never been arrested for anything until last year,
never been arrested for anything.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'm not sure if that's high fives or not. Do
we do we high five on that?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think it just shows.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You how corrupt things are in Mexico and how difficult
the the honest people in Mexico have had ridding themselves
of this scourge that is the drug cartels that you've read,
These kingpins who are just operating with Carte Blanche. You know,
(19:36):
there's nothing stopping him from doing anything. That's crazy to me. Crazy.
We're gonna send the army in to take care of that.
America is gonna invade Mexico to take care of the drugs.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Just watch, and they're gonna hold the Mayo, you got
that there's still no rim shots. He hes doesn't care.
Tabala are you here?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
All of a sudden, I just my headphones just went
dead and I missed whatever Mark said that.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Rough Man, Both of you, come on, that was rough
I walked down on that one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm kind of pissed all three of you, and the
guy's incarcerated, which means that America is going to hold
the mail, right, I mean that's I'm kind of upset
with myself, to be honest, I mean, good for you.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I'm a little disappointed in myself.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Rough crowd, you realize they should never ever ever have
us do a live show together on the PA, not
without a better warm up.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Can you just imagine how disastrous it would be?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like the whole audience be like what these guys are
just trying to entertain themselves, that's all they do.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It'd be like a Nancy Mace crowd, like eight people there.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That would be it. You're exactly right. It would be
the guy going, you guys got any free T shirts?
I got something for free. Yeah, that would be exactly
what happens.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
There is another Democrat throwing his hat in the ring
for California governor, and I had not heard of the dude,
but he also acknowledges that's part of his appeal Ethan Agerwall,
I believe is that how you say his name, Agerwall.
He's joining the crowded race for governor as a Democrat
and in his words, who believes in capitalism. According to Axios,
(21:32):
Agerwall already lining up fundraising events. He's got some other
big time tech people lining up, so the technocracy is
getting behind him, I guess, including some venture capitalists and
things like that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He has founded two startups.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
He's raised over one hundred million dollars from venture capitalists
as well. You have a newsom of course, term limited,
so now this guy may be getting.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Into the race.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
He said his pet issue is ending SEQUA, that is
the environmental regulation. Of course, he said, we're losing people
to other states because our housing and energy are too expensive.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Those are infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Problems that have been allowed to get out of control
because SEQUA gets used maliciously. What is the term on this.
It's not blue dog democrat, which is what we used
to hear before. It's uh, there's another there's another political
term that where that people are starting to use right
now where it's it's kind of like a I don't know,
(22:32):
some sort of a capitalist. What do they call that now,
like a democratic capitalist or something of the sort.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Do you remember what the dem what is that? A
corporate dem kind of along those lines. Yeah, it's it's
similar to that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
God, I saw this in another story and I'm trying
to remember because I think it it really fits exactly
what it is. Expect him, they say, to target young
voters as well as Indian American voters and tech workers.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
He is ah Indian American in his heritage.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He says he fiercely supports capitalism and meritography, meritocracy, excuse me,
believes California could use some business and tech acumen to
fix things in a way that other candidates in the
race won't. He draws a bright line between his politics
and those are fellow Democrats like Elizabeth Warren and Zorn
ma'am donnie, I can't say the guy's name, and that's
(23:24):
the guy who's running uh Fort mayor in New York
that can't bench press. Uh if you missed that news
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And uh yeah he uh. He basically just wants to
ease regulations so abundance.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That's that's what it is. Uh, it's the new abundance
movement there. It is abundance, which is like, you're you're
you're socially liberal, but you also want just you want
to do business promotions, right, you want to push for that. Yeah, okay,
So is he gonna have the kind of the kind
(23:59):
of oomph that it takes. I've often described myself as
being socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but as I've read
a number of different analysis of the country, I'm kind
of in the minority. So I find out that the
country is more socially conservative, which is why the trans
rights issues were such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Of the last election.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're very concerned about trans individuals having too many rights
and LGBTQ and and everything else that freaks people out.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And now, I mean, we see what that's done.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
This put a president in who's who's cracking down a
DEI and these sorts of things, which I'm actually okay
with a lot of those things.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But the country is actually more fiscally liberal.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So we're more socially conservative, but more fiscally liberal. In
other words, we're willing to spend more money on a
number of different services and such if we believe that
it helps people in general. But as far as helping
individuals who are a little different than we say, no, no, no,
I'm not comfortable with that. I tend to be the
other way around, where I say, look, you be you,
you do what you want. We'll try to accommodate as
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best we possibly can as long as it doesn't become
an undue burden on the rest of society. But as
far as businesses go, we're gonna keep an eye on
you and make sure you're not taking the advantage of things.
We're not gonna let greed run the day. But for
the most part, yeah, do what it takes to make money.
And I don't like the idea of using environmental quality
to try to stifle businesses.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So that's kind of where I am.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But I again, in reading a number of different analysis
of the country, I'm actually in the minority.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I thought I was cool. The rest of the country
says not so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Meanwhile, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is also running for governor.
He's running as a Republican pen aim on the show
before He's Next Guy New Report, Though taking aims at
a number of his claims, identifying him as the sheriff
of California's worst crime solving record.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice in San Francisco
pointed out that the Riverside County Sheriff's Department solved less
than ten percent of violent and property crimes between twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty four, the only county in the
state that failed to reach double digits. Is that even
possible that you're not solving even ten percent of violent
(26:14):
and property crimes?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
But property crimes? I understand if we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Talk about tagging, if we're talking about you know, B
and e, somebody breaking into a car and stealing I
was gonna say stealing your CDs.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But I guess that hasn't happened in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But you know what, Like I understand that, but violent crimes,
there's usually a high priority on that, rape, murder, assault, that.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You would think that there would be an emphasis in
not solving even ten percent. Seems really odd to me.
In fact, I was surprised when I heard a crime
stat Hold on, let me bring this real quick.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Uh, let me just see how many murders go unsolved?
Good lord, there are almost three hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Thousand homicide and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Non negligent manslaughter cases over the last fifty sixty years.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Clearance rate in most states on murder cases. Let me see.
I've got the actual stats in front of me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Most states are going to be in that sixty to
eighty percent range. Let me see in California where at
sixty two percent? So I mean I see dragging down
our stats. I don't know that I believe these the
report from the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, because
it just seems seems really difficult to buy into fewer
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than ten percent of crimes get solved. Biaco pushing back
against what he calls a political hit piece from a
disingenuous source and contributors, claiming the state data is fatally
flawed as officials were intentionally trying to obtain data in
a way that would paint a negative picture, saying Riverside
County Sheriff's Office is one of the most efficient and
successful agency in the country at protecting our communities and
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Riverside County residents know it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know that, I would say the most
efficient in the country.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Look, just because I doubt the numbers on one side
doesn't mean I'm gonna believe whatever crap you throw at
me on the other side. But he more than ten
percent of the violent and property crime cases being solved
seems odd to me. It just doesn't seem doesn't seem
like reliable numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Maybe it is. Maybe it's just really terrible and we've
all been hoodweight. Hell of I know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh did you happen to see uh? Mark taala Sam?
Did you guys see if we solve the Epstein case yet?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Did you happen to catch that?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because I know that I know that the committee was
getting the Epstein files, so you figure out where the
list is.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yet my understanding is that the files released last week,
only three percent of the information in them was new.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Wait, no, Mark, what Mark? You're wrong?
Speaker 10 (28:59):
Which you've got to understand is that the UFO files
that were leased last year sometime actually supersede the files
and that's where the blockage is.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The full Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, Pam Bondies Epstein files are buried under Pam Bondi's
UFO files.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes, well, I misunderstood. I I can't apologize enough.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
You should the UFO that that they're researching in the
files they put the Epstein files on right.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
There you go, Sam, there you go. Yeah, I'm gonna
talk to Nori about that later.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
They asked Lane Maxwell about that, and she said she
never set foot on the Epstein's spacecraft.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It never happen.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Everybody seems to wrestle with that name, don't they.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
No, not me.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I know exactly what I'm not saying, right, Okay, all right,
but that's her name.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I love you the latest because there is actually a
little bit of news that the crack this afternoon about Epstein,
because by God, we're going to find that list.
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I am having some great difficulty with the Epstein saga,
and let me explain the notion that there is no
list is ridiculous. It is, as Wallace Shawn would say,
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inconceivable because we know that jis Lane Maxwell is doing
time for trafficking, which means that there were victims of trafficking,
which means there is a list of victims who were trafficked, which.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Means, wa, there is a list.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now the victims have said, who are some of these
others that we're being and they've identified individuals.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
There is most.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Certainly a list. Is it a completely damning list? Is
it admissible in court? Blah blah blah, all these other questions. No,
no one else has been arrested for this, to the
best of my knowledge, and correct me if I'm wrong.
I would love to be wrong on this, but I
no one else has been arrested for any of the
shenanigans around Epstein or Epstein Island. Right, So all of
(31:28):
these rumors about people that may have been their big
name celebrities, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, that one
always threw me. Obviously, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Bill and Hillary had their own little.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Villa with the never ending stream of messuse whatever it is.
Nobody else has ever been wrung up on this. Nobody
And and then we keep saying there's obviously more to
the story.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Now, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
All of that information is not being provided, other than
to say that there is a reason the information is
not being provided. There is a reason we're not finding out.
There is a reason that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General,
said that, oh, yes, we've got it. It's on my desk.
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But now suddenly there is no list. That's belooney. There
is a reason that one she said she had it,
and two now she says there is no list. I
never had anything. These are not the droids are looking for.
I just don't know what that reason is. And I
know a lot of you are speculating, well, it's because
Trump is on the list. But the reasonable question on
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the other side of that is, if Trump is on
that list, why didn't the Biden administration leak that information?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It would have been very beneficial in a campaign for
the president. See why didn't Kamala Harris leak that information?
Sure would have helped her chances. Okay, so that makes
good sense that either Trump is not on the list
or there was something so compromising that even revealing Trump
on the list in.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Order to try to win the presidency is still is
still hang on let me go back.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Revealing him on the list is still more dangerous than
just denying that there is a list at all. In
other words, somebody would either he's not on the list
or the Democrats would have rather lost the presidency than
for that list to become public.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's got to be one or the other. Right, I
just don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Now, you've got Congress that says we want to see
the list, we want to see all of the Epstein information.
And as you heard Mark and Tula and Sam discussing earlier,
it seems that any information that went to Congres risks,
what is it?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Three percent of it is new? Is that what she said?
That's what I read today. I did see that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the Democrats are saying that it's already mostly all
the public stuff. Anyway, Well, now the House Oversight has
subpoenaed the Epstein estate and they are looking for any
quote unquote client list or anything that could be construed
is a client list. In fact, according to James Comer,
(34:27):
this is his quote. Oh he used the word construed too,
smart guys, Any document or record that could be reasonably
construed to be a potential list of clients involved in sex,
sex acts or sex trafficking facilitated by Epstein. That's what
they want. Do you guys want to make a bet
right now? I'm going to bet that they just can't
find anything. Just gonna throw it out there. I'm betting
(34:52):
that for some reason, we you know, we searched it all,
couldn't find anything.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I had no idea what was going on. This was
Jake Tapper, CNN TA about it quote.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
But reviewing the possible mismanagement of the federal government's investigation
of Jeffrey Epstein and Galene Maxwell, the House Oversight Committee
today announced that they will be interviewing former US Attorney
Alex Acosta on September nineteenth. The Costa, as you might remember,
is the former Trump Labor secretary who way back in
two thousand and seven two thousand and eight negotiated that
(35:22):
sweetheart plea deal with Jeffrey Epstein. The committee is also
issuing a subpoena for the Epstein estates, demanding to see
NDA's non disclosure agreements and Epstein's last one testament and
then alleged birthday book, and any potential list of clients
involved in sex sex acts or sex trafficking. All of
this follows the Friday afternoon release by the Justice Department
(35:47):
of a transcript and audio of its interview with Ghlene Maxwell,
the convicted sex trafficker and Epstein associate, in her interview
with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, this is the interview where she said, no, Trump's
down that list. No, I never did Trump. I don't
know the guy mar Lago. First, I've heard of it.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
He denied there being any sort of Epstein client list,
and she said she never heard allegations the president Trump
acted inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Now, how is there no list? Gis Lane was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Young girls. She was trafficking young girls for sex with whom.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's your list doesn't mean that there's a spreadsheet somewhere,
doesn't mean that there's a little black book. There's definitely
a list of people involved. It's not a question of
if there is. The crime has already been uncovered. We
know that they were trafficking for whom. Right, It's like
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catching a drug dealer and being like, hey, who you
dealing to and they're like, oh me, no, but I'm
there's no there's nobody's using drugs. Well, then how are
you arrested for a drug dealer. If you can't deal
it to anyone, do you see Otherwise you're just an
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illegal pharmacist. I just want to know who's on that list,
and I want more than anything, when people stop lying
to me.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
That's the big one. Stop treating me like I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
If you're gonna tell me that we're not gonna release
it in a matter of national security, I'm not gonna
be happy, But at least you stop lying to me.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Kay.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Mark, I'm gonna call you out early.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I was doing the Sunday Show yesterday and you and
I got called out by one of the listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't believe it. It's true, okay, true, and what
have we done?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well? He's asked you to bring your A game to
what exactly? Well, here it is. Here's what he said. Chris.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I can't wait to hear you in the mo Kelly
Show tomorrow. Mark, you guys are crazy. I want to
bet with my wife because I totally would take three
to five seconds for you and Mark to say something crazy.
You guys talked about Jimmy Carter and his uh blown.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
A dark urine.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Hey, while you're there, can you ask if why don't
mo Kelly take on a kareemabdul jabban as far. I'll
pay fifty bucks on that the old versus the bold.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That was a lot. Okay, that is a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And so what was the crazy thing that we were
alleged to have said?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
At some point we must have talked about Jimmy Carter
having glown the dark urine.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I don't know when we did that, but we must
have done that at some point.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I don't recall that, but I stand by it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean it made sense right, probably abducted that
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Are you sure that was us? I'll stand by it anyway, No,
I'm not. And even though I'm not sure it was us.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So we are more than three to five seconds in,
and as a courtesy to that man's wife, we have
not said anything too absurd quite yet.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Well, I believe in you.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thank you. Let's put our noses in some butts.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, the Cereal butt sniffer is at it again. This
is the guy that was just arrested not so long ago.
He's been picked up one more time, this time for
a mall in.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Burbank, and the registered sex offender that made headlines for
sniffing women's butts have been has been arrested again. Thirty
eight year old Chalice Crowder was re arrested Wednesday after
reports of yet another sniffing incident at a Walgreen store
in Burbank. This is video of prior incidents. Crowder was
already on parole.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You can't see video because it's.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Radio well and has a documented history of similar arrests
for lute conduct in both Glendale and Burbank dating back
to twenty twenty one. He's been charged with a felony
and is now being held without bail.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
All right, so keep your nose away from the techeese.
It feels like this would be a really easy topic
to take the low road, and normally I would so
to speak, but the load, thank you, the dirt road.
I love that when I'm in with Moe and you're here,
I actually have to play the straight man. Oh I
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love that, you think, yeah, okay, great, all right. I
absolutely love it. But we have actually an honor. The
most overqualified tech director we've ever had is Sam, who's
in here. And Sam is a therapist, and Sam also
does sex therapy, and Sam is studying this sort of
stuff as well, working at his PhD.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't know, Sam, what is the deal here? Is this?
You didn't want to drive uber or what's why are you?
I'm I'm not questioning it. I love it. This is
my goal lot.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
My sanity is at stake, and this is the only
place where I get my sanity. I wrote other people's
mental health, and this is the one place in the
universe where I feel like I'm sane.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You hear that, Twala, we are the normal people in
his world. I love it. Yeah, Okay, Sam, here's a dude.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Here's a dude that has already been picked up numerous
times for super creeping.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Is that fair to say super creeping?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The guy is following women at these different stories have
been caught on surveillance video, and he basically is sort
of crouching down like he's looking at something at a
bottom shelf. And then when the woman turns around that's
in the aisle ext I mean, he sort of sneaks
up behind her and just which Okay, I get that
(04:11):
he has this odd fetish of some sort, right, And
I'm I'm not one to question somebody's fetishes. Everybody under themselves,
but this is criminal and he's been arrested for it before,
but he can't seem to stop himself. So let's without
examining the patient here, let's talk about what the possible
motivation could be. Why can he not control himself? What
(04:32):
is the compulsion? Why is it so strong that he
would do something like that. Again, you're not diagnosing, you're
just explaining how something like this could happen in the whild.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Well, I mean obviously there's impulse control issues and other
mental health factors going on there. I don't want to
go too deep into that stuff. But the fetish behind
it is, you know, he's pursuing the thing that he's
totally into. And usually I have no problem with people
and they're fetish fetishes, But the biggest issue here is
a matter of consent. The people who he has to
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engage in his personal fetish with are people who are
not consenting to what he's doing at all, and it's
a total invasion of their space, of their privacy, and
it is sexual harassment, sexual form of sexual assault.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Is it possible that part of his fetish is that
there's no consent.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Yeah, absolutely, And that's part of the problem here. And
you can if the way that we look at things
as far as mental health goes is that if it
doesn't cause you distress, then we can't make a diagnosis.
The problem is that he's violating other people's boundaries, and
that's what makes it criminal and diagnosable.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's because he's It may be.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Tied to some antisocial behavior, it may be tied to
some kind of other a few other things that we
can point at, but without you know, looking and interviewing
him and getting a full idea of what factors are
at play with him, you can look at just the
fact that he may have There's nothing wrong with having
a fetish at all. It's the fact that you're violating
other people's boundaries. If you're not harming yourself or harming
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others and it's not causing you distress, it's not a problem.
This is harming others and causing distress for others. It
may not bother him, obviously, he gets caught routinely in Burbank.
My biggest thing is like, how long anytime this guy
goes into a business, Why aren't the cops immediately there
just paying attention to him, Like there's cop cars everywhere
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in these shopping centers.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, and how many times are you going to get
arrested before we say, okay, we're not going to give
you the no cash bond or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The reason is that he's getting out so easily.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Like obviously a danger to the public here in Burbank.
He is the Burbank butt sniffer. His story has traveled,
it's gone viral across around the world. He is, he
is a well known figure here in Burbank.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's kind of horrifying, isn't it funny though, that he's
gone viral around the world because we've turned him into
a two dimensional character. Like That's why I wanted to
talk to you about this, because, as you made mentioned,
there's so much more to it. There's other mental health issues,
there's other stuff happening with this guy.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And yet it's really easy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
To point at the goofy guy doing this really absurd
thing where while we talk about it being a form
of sexual assault, no, the women were super creeped out,
probably scared, But when we look at the video, we
don't see somebody being physically harmed. That's not to say
(07:28):
there isn't some sort of mental harm that goes with it,
but we don't see the physical harm, So we almost
feel a license to laugh at the guy. But I
just feel like there's more to the story and I
don't know that we should necessarily dismiss it quite so easily.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Well, and the biggest part for me is the failing
of law enforcement. How can you let a guy who's
known as the serial Burbank butt sniffer find more opportunities
to sneak into a Walgreens or a Walmart or the
target an Empire Center and go and have his sniff about.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Low hanging fruit. He likes sniffing the low hanging fruit.
Oh oh man, I just how do you know?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I guess you kind of laid it out there a
little bit. When when the fetish is too much is
when it causes harm. That's sort of the harm principle.
Can't if it hurts you, if it hurts them, then
then all of a sudden we go, okay, this is
a problem. So how do you treat somebody that has
a compulsion that is harmful either to themselves or to others.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
That's you got to sit down and actually get to
the root of why that thing is there, why that
feeling is there. If there's ultimately like if this guy
has some severe mental health issues, then the thing you
have to do. No amount of talk therapy is gonna
get somebody who needs medication to be on medication. This
guy's got mental health issues and I can do talk
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therapy to get to the bottom of it, but I
won't necessarily be able to take his compulsion away. Yeah,
I can help him find ways to cope with it,
and if he notices that the compulsion is there, I
can help him find ways for him sol to avoid
getting himself into trouble. But I can't physically walk around
with him and keep him from engaging in his compulsion.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
No, of course not. And if you do walk around
with him, make him go first.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You see, Sam, This is why I have to I
mean my life was I ever the straight man, But
with Marner here, I got to be the guy that
that that maintains the balance on the ship.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
This is just what the Mark should know better.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's a really strange dynamic that I'm in. These are
valid observations.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And I'm wrong. I love that we just talked past
Mark favorite like he's not in the room.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I want to know when this is going to be
a Law and Order episode, because then I'm gonna watch Oh,
surely soon?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Hey, is this possible, Sam? Is it possible that our
serial Burbank butt sniffer. Is that this is like a
chemical thing or a physiological problem that he's having or Yeah,
as you made mentioned with the talk there. I mean
when you're in talk therapy, obviously you always say how
are you feeling?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
But we know what's gonna But they're gonna bring it
back to their childhood. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Ultimately, I'm going to dig around and find, you know,
in the past where this whole thing started, and helped
find ways to get to the bottom of all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
No pun intended, but the way. But you just said
and get to the bottom. I'm just saying, what's happening, Sam.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thanks for picking up up. I hate having to be
the mature one. This is really difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Guys. This is so challenging.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yeah, no, he's it could be something that's physiologically wrong
with the structure of his brain, it could.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Be something chemically off. That's why I was saying.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Medication may be the only way for him, but he
also needs to be consistent with it and have talk therapy,
so it's not just you know, covering up his issues
with medicine.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think he's gonna up doing a lot of time.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I don't know how much time he ends up doing, though,
because again, he didn't physically harm anyone, and our our
justice system isn't really set up for you know, you
scared the dickens out of somebody, or you gave this
woman PTSD. You know, he may get punished for that,
but I don't think they lock him up and throw
way the key for twenty years for that sort of thing,
(11:02):
which means that people might potentially still be in danger
if he's not getting the help that he needs. I
don't know if the courts are gonna be able to mandate.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That or not.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
See, I tried to open the show with something very
immature and make it mature but unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You boys, boys are the worst unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
If there is any advice I can offer you in life,
it is to think like a criminal, although you're gonna
have to think better than these did. What they're up
to is next time, Chris merriland from O Kelly to
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the Governor Race. I'll tell you who that is coming
up here after marks seven thirty news. First you've heard
of being Rick rolled. How about rich rolled? That's the latest.
You heard ron A talking about this right at seven o'clock,
and that is the rich Roland bandits.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
We talked to alipdchief to Jim McDonald. He told us
that the ten person burglary crew are career criminals and
they're responsible for nearly one hundred home break ins across
the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's from ABC seven. So when you were a career criminal,
that's not the kind of thing that you just thinking.
You have careers going to your kids' school on career
Day and they ask you those questions like what kind
of training does one need to become this sort of career.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Nope, this crew, which had victimized families and businesses, is
no longer a threat to our neighborhoods.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
This morning, ALI leaders announcing the takedown of the rich
rule In burglary crew. The operation took place last Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
At five am on the twentieth.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Teams from West Los Angeles Area and Operations West Bureau,
along with detectives from North Hollywood, West Valley, Olympic, Hollywood,
Wiltshire and Central Areas Serve Warrens at eight residents across
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Take a look.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
This map shows you the neighborhoods across Los Angeles where
the break ins were happening.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I can see it. It's radio ninety.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Two took place in the city of Los Angeles, nearly
half in West la. An additional break in was reported
in Ellie County.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
Ten suspects, all adult career criminals with prior arrests for
violent and property crimes, had been identified.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Tenner confirmed gang members.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
The majority of the home break ins happened this year
and last year, but some date back to twenty twenty two.
Police officers recovered handguns, drugs at burglary tools, and stolen
property from designer purses to wallets and jewelry.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
These are not crimes of need, These are crimes of greed.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
I want the burglars and the robbers to know that
if we don't get you that day, we're going to
get you now, laped Chief Jim McDonnell, also telling us
that they do not believe that this specific burglary crew
is tied to the home break ins that we've seen
over the summer in the Encino area. But they want
the community to know they're working very hard behind the
scenes to make an arrest in those cases as well
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reporting in Los Angele.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So, how many crews do we have operating right now?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Didn't we put together a big task force to try
to take down organized crime? Wasn't that or organized theft rings?
Wasn't that supposed to happen? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah,
I guess this is evidence that they are. But how
many organized theft rings do we have if this one,
which was responsible for hundreds of crimes, is not related
to the other ones that are going on. And I
(14:31):
also didn't get the feeling that this is that South
American crime. Uh, I don't know what you call them, troubadours.
That's a different one all together too, right, Yes, that's
the problem. You take down one, another one pops up.
It's like hydra take down one to more pop up.
So I feel like we probably need the president to
(14:55):
militarize LA to make this stuff stop. Did you see
that all of the crime went away in DC?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, crime completely ceased to exist in DC. I mean
outside of the Capitol and the White House. But other
than that completely ceased to exist.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There is none. Well, we need some of that here,
that's what we need.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, so more National Guard troops more just send in
the military joking of course they don't support sending in
the military to enforce domestic policy. However, I do want
to congratulate the LAPD and all the other partners who
got this done. And the chief Jim McDonalds, should take
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a bow. That's great, he earned it. Happy to hear
about that. Would like to see more saw that this
really the big break in this case really came when
they made an arrest, as he said you heard in
the audio in February.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So they made this arrest in February, and.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
He doesn't really connect the dots on how that arrest
turned into today's giant bust. So was it just solid
police work where we track the thing? You know, we
tracked down fingerprints and tire tracks?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What else? Mark?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You watch more crime shows on two B than I do,
so you probably know, uh what what?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Or was it that they got a snitch? Is that? What?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Did they get somebody to roll on everybody else? I
would only be guessing. Go on, I don't think. I
don't think I want to engage in conjecture. I think
the facts will come out pretty quick, especially it sounds
like they're promoting these arrests a great deal, so they
want us to know the details.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I want to know if they got if these guys snitched,
because you know what happens to snitches. I've heard yeah, yeah,
And I feel like like medical care in prison is
better than street medical care, but it's still not what
I would choose if I need stitches. Hey, oh, Sam's
(16:55):
a little he's not looking at the at the rim shot.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But no, he didn't even know where the roomshot button is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
OK, I just appreciate that the to Walla gave us
the courtesy left to make up for it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Thank you, You are welcome. Thank you, T Sharp, I
love you, buddy. Yeah, man, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
A new uh, We've got a new name in the
governor race. It's a name you may not have ever
heard of before, but I can't. I got a feeling
you're going to He may have some appeal, especially in
the Bay Area, but certainly leading some appeal here in
southern California as well.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's next.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
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I'm Chris Merrill in for MO.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I just found myself going down the rabbit hole here
after I was listening to Mark's newscast.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
There.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
El Mio arrested, will die in prison, so's the prosecutor. Well,
he's seventy two and he's in poor health, so yeah,
that's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I didn't realize he was one of the founders of
the Sineloa cartel.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's uh. That's something which.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Means that if I go back and watch Narcos again,
I'm probably gonna see his character somewhere, aren't I.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh yeah, I gotta get caught up on that show too.
So good, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Having the name El Mile And then you end up
in an American prison. Everybody starts calling you Mayo, m
wontter how much influence he has in the American prisons,
Like do.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
These guys run the yard?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
He's gonna gang up right away, you think so, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You think they just instantly follow him or does he
have to does he have to you know, get jumped
or whatever to get into the gang.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Oh, this is where you're gonna start pulling out all
your prison terminology again.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, yeah, yeah, they have to jump him in or no, yeah, yeah,
jumped in.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I would assume that he is probably he earned some
status walking into the prison.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You realized he would.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He had never been arrested for anything until last year,
never been arrested for anything.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I'm not sure if that's high fives or not. Do
we do we high five on that?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think it just shows.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You how corrupt things are in Mexico and how difficult
the the honest people in Mexico have had ridding themselves
of this scourge that is the drug cartels that you've read,
These kingpins who are just operating with Carte Blanche. You know,
(19:36):
there's nothing stopping him from doing anything. That's crazy to me. Crazy.
We're gonna send the army in to take care of that.
America is gonna invade Mexico to take care of the drugs.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Just watch, and they're gonna hold the Mayo, you got
that there's still no rim shots. He hes doesn't care.
Tabala are you here?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
All of a sudden, I just my headphones just went
dead and I missed whatever Mark said that.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Rough Man, Both of you, come on, that was rough
I walked down on that one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm kind of pissed all three of you, and the
guy's incarcerated, which means that America is going to hold
the mail, right, I mean that's I'm kind of upset
with myself, to be honest, I mean, good for you.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I'm a little disappointed in myself.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Rough crowd, you realize they should never ever ever have
us do a live show together on the PA, not
without a better warm up.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Can you just imagine how disastrous it would be?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like the whole audience be like what these guys are
just trying to entertain themselves, that's all they do.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It'd be like a Nancy Mace crowd, like eight people there.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That would be it. You're exactly right. It would be
the guy going, you guys got any free T shirts?
I got something for free. Yeah, that would be exactly
what happens.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
There is another Democrat throwing his hat in the ring
for California governor, and I had not heard of the dude,
but he also acknowledges that's part of his appeal Ethan Agerwall,
I believe is that how you say his name, Agerwall.
He's joining the crowded race for governor as a Democrat
and in his words, who believes in capitalism. According to Axios,
(21:32):
Agerwall already lining up fundraising events. He's got some other
big time tech people lining up, so the technocracy is
getting behind him, I guess, including some venture capitalists and
things like that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He has founded two startups.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
He's raised over one hundred million dollars from venture capitalists
as well. You have a newsom of course, term limited,
so now this guy may be getting.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Into the race.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
He said his pet issue is ending SEQUA, that is
the environmental regulation. Of course, he said, we're losing people
to other states because our housing and energy are too expensive.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Those are infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Problems that have been allowed to get out of control
because SEQUA gets used maliciously. What is the term on this.
It's not blue dog democrat, which is what we used
to hear before. It's uh, there's another there's another political
term that where that people are starting to use right
now where it's it's kind of like a I don't know,
(22:32):
some sort of a capitalist. What do they call that now,
like a democratic capitalist or something of the sort.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Do you remember what the dem what is that? A
corporate dem kind of along those lines. Yeah, it's it's
similar to that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
God, I saw this in another story and I'm trying
to remember because I think it it really fits exactly
what it is. Expect him, they say, to target young
voters as well as Indian American voters and tech workers.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
He is ah Indian American in his heritage.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He says he fiercely supports capitalism and meritography, meritocracy, excuse me,
believes California could use some business and tech acumen to
fix things in a way that other candidates in the
race won't. He draws a bright line between his politics
and those are fellow Democrats like Elizabeth Warren and Zorn
ma'am donnie, I can't say the guy's name, and that's
(23:24):
the guy who's running uh Fort mayor in New York
that can't bench press. Uh if you missed that news
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And uh yeah he uh. He basically just wants to
ease regulations so abundance.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
That's that's what it is. Uh, it's the new abundance
movement there. It is abundance, which is like, you're you're
you're socially liberal, but you also want just you want
to do business promotions, right, you want to push for that. Yeah, okay,
So is he gonna have the kind of the kind
(23:59):
of oomph that it takes. I've often described myself as
being socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but as I've read
a number of different analysis of the country, I'm kind
of in the minority. So I find out that the
country is more socially conservative, which is why the trans
rights issues were such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Of the last election.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We're very concerned about trans individuals having too many rights
and LGBTQ and and everything else that freaks people out.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And now, I mean, we see what that's done.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
This put a president in who's who's cracking down a
DEI and these sorts of things, which I'm actually okay
with a lot of those things.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But the country is actually more fiscally liberal.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So we're more socially conservative, but more fiscally liberal. In
other words, we're willing to spend more money on a
number of different services and such if we believe that
it helps people in general. But as far as helping
individuals who are a little different than we say, no, no, no,
I'm not comfortable with that. I tend to be the
other way around, where I say, look, you be you,
you do what you want. We'll try to accommodate as
(25:02):
best we possibly can as long as it doesn't become
an undue burden on the rest of society. But as
far as businesses go, we're gonna keep an eye on
you and make sure you're not taking the advantage of things.
We're not gonna let greed run the day. But for
the most part, yeah, do what it takes to make money.
And I don't like the idea of using environmental quality
to try to stifle businesses.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So that's kind of where I am.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But I again, in reading a number of different analysis
of the country, I'm actually in the minority.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I thought I was cool. The rest of the country
says not so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Meanwhile, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is also running for governor.
He's running as a Republican pen aim on the show
before He's Next Guy New Report, Though taking aims at
a number of his claims, identifying him as the sheriff
of California's worst crime solving record.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice in San Francisco
pointed out that the Riverside County Sheriff's Department solved less
than ten percent of violent and property crimes between twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty four, the only county in the
state that failed to reach double digits. Is that even
possible that you're not solving even ten percent of violent
(26:14):
and property crimes?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
But property crimes? I understand if we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Talk about tagging, if we're talking about you know, B
and e, somebody breaking into a car and stealing I
was gonna say stealing your CDs.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But I guess that hasn't happened in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But you know what, Like I understand that, but violent crimes,
there's usually a high priority on that, rape, murder, assault, that.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You would think that there would be an emphasis in
not solving even ten percent. Seems really odd to me.
In fact, I was surprised when I heard a crime
stat Hold on, let me bring this real quick.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Uh, let me just see how many murders go unsolved?
Good lord, there are almost three hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Thousand homicide and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Non negligent manslaughter cases over the last fifty sixty years.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Clearance rate in most states on murder cases. Let me see.
I've got the actual stats in front of me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Most states are going to be in that sixty to
eighty percent range. Let me see in California where at
sixty two percent? So I mean I see dragging down
our stats. I don't know that I believe these the
report from the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, because
it just seems seems really difficult to buy into fewer
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than ten percent of crimes get solved. Biaco pushing back
against what he calls a political hit piece from a
disingenuous source and contributors, claiming the state data is fatally
flawed as officials were intentionally trying to obtain data in
a way that would paint a negative picture, saying Riverside
County Sheriff's Office is one of the most efficient and
successful agency in the country at protecting our communities and
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Riverside County residents know it.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know that, I would say the most
efficient in the country.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Look, just because I doubt the numbers on one side
doesn't mean I'm gonna believe whatever crap you throw at
me on the other side. But he more than ten
percent of the violent and property crime cases being solved
seems odd to me. It just doesn't seem doesn't seem
like reliable numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Maybe it is. Maybe it's just really terrible and we've
all been hoodweight. Hell of I know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh did you happen to see uh? Mark taala Sam?
Did you guys see if we solve the Epstein case yet?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Did you happen to catch that?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because I know that I know that the committee was
getting the Epstein files, so you figure out where the
list is.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yet my understanding is that the files released last week,
only three percent of the information in them was new.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Wait, no, Mark, what Mark? You're wrong?
Speaker 10 (28:59):
Which you've got to understand is that the UFO files
that were leased last year sometime actually supersede the files
and that's where the blockage is.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
The full Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, Pam Bondies Epstein files are buried under Pam Bondi's
UFO files.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yes, well, I misunderstood. I I can't apologize enough.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
You should the UFO that that they're researching in the
files they put the Epstein files on right.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
There you go, Sam, there you go. Yeah, I'm gonna
talk to Nori about that later.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
They asked Lane Maxwell about that, and she said she
never set foot on the Epstein's spacecraft.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It never happen.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Everybody seems to wrestle with that name, don't they.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
No, not me.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I know exactly what I'm not saying, right, Okay, all right,
but that's her name.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I love you the latest because there is actually a
little bit of news that the crack this afternoon about Epstein,
because by God, we're going to find that list.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
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I am having some great difficulty with the Epstein saga,
and let me explain the notion that there is no
list is ridiculous. It is, as Wallace Shawn would say,
(30:40):
inconceivable because we know that jis Lane Maxwell is doing
time for trafficking, which means that there were victims of trafficking,
which means there is a list of victims who were trafficked, which.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Means, wa, there is a list.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now the victims have said, who are some of these
others that we're being and they've identified individuals.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
There is most.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Certainly a list. Is it a completely damning list? Is
it admissible in court? Blah blah blah, all these other questions. No,
no one else has been arrested for this, to the
best of my knowledge, and correct me if I'm wrong.
I would love to be wrong on this, but I
no one else has been arrested for any of the
shenanigans around Epstein or Epstein Island. Right, So all of
(31:28):
these rumors about people that may have been their big
name celebrities, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, that one
always threw me. Obviously, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Bill and Hillary had their own little.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Villa with the never ending stream of messuse whatever it is.
Nobody else has ever been wrung up on this. Nobody
And and then we keep saying there's obviously more to
the story.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Now, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
All of that information is not being provided, other than
to say that there is a reason the information is
not being provided. There is a reason we're not finding out.
There is a reason that Pam Bondi, the Attorney General,
said that, oh, yes, we've got it. It's on my desk.
(32:25):
But now suddenly there is no list. That's belooney. There
is a reason that one she said she had it,
and two now she says there is no list. I
never had anything. These are not the droids are looking for.
I just don't know what that reason is. And I
know a lot of you are speculating, well, it's because
Trump is on the list. But the reasonable question on
(32:47):
the other side of that is, if Trump is on
that list, why didn't the Biden administration leak that information?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It would have been very beneficial in a campaign for
the president. See why didn't Kamala Harris leak that information?
Sure would have helped her chances. Okay, so that makes
good sense that either Trump is not on the list
or there was something so compromising that even revealing Trump
on the list in.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Order to try to win the presidency is still is
still hang on let me go back.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Revealing him on the list is still more dangerous than
just denying that there is a list at all. In
other words, somebody would either he's not on the list
or the Democrats would have rather lost the presidency than
for that list to become public.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's got to be one or the other. Right, I
just don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Now, you've got Congress that says we want to see
the list, we want to see all of the Epstein information.
And as you heard Mark and Tula and Sam discussing earlier,
it seems that any information that went to Congres risks,
what is it?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Three percent of it is new? Is that what she said?
That's what I read today. I did see that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, the Democrats are saying that it's already mostly all
the public stuff. Anyway, Well, now the House Oversight has
subpoenaed the Epstein estate and they are looking for any
quote unquote client list or anything that could be construed
is a client list. In fact, according to James Comer,
(34:27):
this is his quote. Oh he used the word construed too,
smart guys, Any document or record that could be reasonably
construed to be a potential list of clients involved in sex,
sex acts or sex trafficking facilitated by Epstein. That's what
they want. Do you guys want to make a bet
right now? I'm going to bet that they just can't
find anything. Just gonna throw it out there. I'm betting
(34:52):
that for some reason, we you know, we searched it all,
couldn't find anything.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I had no idea what was going on. This was
Jake Tapper, CNN TA about it quote.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
But reviewing the possible mismanagement of the federal government's investigation
of Jeffrey Epstein and Galene Maxwell, the House Oversight Committee
today announced that they will be interviewing former US Attorney
Alex Acosta on September nineteenth. The Costa, as you might remember,
is the former Trump Labor secretary who way back in
two thousand and seven two thousand and eight negotiated that
(35:22):
sweetheart plea deal with Jeffrey Epstein. The committee is also
issuing a subpoena for the Epstein estates, demanding to see
NDA's non disclosure agreements and Epstein's last one testament and
then alleged birthday book, and any potential list of clients
involved in sex sex acts or sex trafficking. All of
this follows the Friday afternoon release by the Justice Department
(35:47):
of a transcript and audio of its interview with Ghlene Maxwell,
the convicted sex trafficker and Epstein associate, in her interview
with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, this is the interview where she said, no, Trump's
down that list. No, I never did Trump. I don't
know the guy mar Lago. First, I've heard of it.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
He denied there being any sort of Epstein client list,
and she said she never heard allegations the president Trump
acted inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Now, how is there no list? Gis Lane was recruiting.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Young girls. She was trafficking young girls for sex with whom.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's your list doesn't mean that there's a spreadsheet somewhere,
doesn't mean that there's a little black book. There's definitely
a list of people involved. It's not a question of
if there is. The crime has already been uncovered. We
know that they were trafficking for whom. Right, It's like
(36:54):
catching a drug dealer and being like, hey, who you
dealing to and they're like, oh me, no, but I'm
there's no there's nobody's using drugs. Well, then how are
you arrested for a drug dealer. If you can't deal
it to anyone, do you see Otherwise you're just an
(37:14):
illegal pharmacist. I just want to know who's on that list,
and I want more than anything, when people stop lying
to me.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
That's the big one. Stop treating me like I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
If you're gonna tell me that we're not gonna release
it in a matter of national security, I'm not gonna
be happy, But at least you stop lying to me.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Kay.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
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