August 27, 2025 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with thoughts on the rapid return of COVID in California with the ‘Stratus’ variant AND efforts to establish a cohesive mental health crisis response team in Los Angeles County, to divert calls away from law enforcement…PLUS – A look at the rise and fall of Irvine’s drive-thru 'Lion Country Safari' - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Good to see boys got your back today. See boys, Yes,
(00:27):
thank you, appreciate that. Appreciate that. Let's start with lawsuits abroad,
lawsuits nearby, lawsuits happening all over the place. It was
not really a question because this is what we do.
We do something the politicians do and then the other
politicians sue them for it. President Trump wants to make
a move on the Federal Reserve, he gets sued for it.
Gavin Newsom wants to redistrict, he gets sued for it.
(00:49):
That's exactly what's happening in Sacramento is the Republicans are
saying lawsuits a hooy fight is from Katy like to
try to preserve democracy in California.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's what GOP State Senator Tony Strickland argued, is at
state as he and fellow Republicans and the Dylan Law
Group announced they filed this emergency petition asking the California
Supreme Court to block Governor Gavin Newsom's redistricting measure, known
as Prop fifty, from appearing on the special election ballot
this November fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oooh, that's a tough ye. It's kind of the Hail
Mary by the Republicans. I don't think the judge is
going to block the petition to the to the people
to overturn the people's verdict. I mean, how do you
change how do you change one of those voter initiatives.
You ask the voters to vote on it. So I
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don't know that it's going to be successful, but yeah,
I mean, if you're GOP, it's worth a shot. You
throw everything you got at it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Plan asks voters to pause through twenty thirty the state's
Independent citizens Through Districting Commission in charge of drawing congressional maps. Instead,
the proposal asked voters to approve this Jerrymander congressional district
map to shift five red districts into blue districts, all
with the goal to help Democrats pick up more US
health seats statewide. Maintains his plan is in response to
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Republicans in Texas and potentially other red states as they
move forward with their own redistricting plans backed by President
Donald Trump aimed at picking up GOP house seats.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They fired the first shot Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Open your eyes to what is going on in the
United States of America in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Side note, Does it sound like Gavin Newsom is up
to like four packs a day? You hearing that little
lake Suzanne Plaschette. He's got that really gravelly. I don't
know if I love it or hate it. I really
can't tell, to be honest. I mean, I always wish
I had that great big I mean, you just heard
Mark Thompson in with Tim. I always wish I had
(02:53):
that voice. And I feel like Newsom is trying to
get that voice. He's really trying to go all in.
It is kind of the Christian Bale Batman voices. Yes,
which is why I've always called him Governor Batman. He
looks like Bruce Wayne and he sounds like Christian Bale.
On a scale of one to RFK Junior, he's about
a six. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Really, okay, all right, all right, RFK June. He sounds
like he's talking to the little hole in his throat.
Yeah he's got.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, well he's got he's got like a like a
throat thing going on. Ye Oh, come off, thank you. Unbelievable,
really good. Okay, So back to the story from Governor Batman.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Open your eyes to what is going on in the
United States of America in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You'll mess with the wrong bath.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
A Batman.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Okay, that's what this is about. We're going to challenge
him in court.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Strickland and others here are your news. Was plan violates
the state constitution, noting the plan was rush through the
legislature in less than a week's time instead of following
a constitutionally required thirty day period allowing for public review.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh that might be their their their way in. I
mean that sounds like that sounds like they violated the
constitution to try to change the constitution.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They also, are you democratic politicians and consultants were directly
involved in making the newly proposed gerry mendered map that
they say violates the state constitution Because as of today,
only the California Independent Citizens or Districting Commission is constitutionally
allowed to be involved in the map making process.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That one seems a little more specious. I'm not so sure.
You know, if you wanted to, you could say that
lobbyists can't write laws, but neither party is going to
approve that. No, because lobbyists like to come to them
and they go, hey, you know, they got that big
cigar with about an inch and a half worth of ash.
In the end, they go, hey, have I got a
law for you? And if you can get this on
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the ballot, boy, if I got some campaign dollars, you're
just gonna.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Love this entire process we are going through right now,
where the legislature and others have drawn maps, is already
them exercising a power that they don't have.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think I'm going to be filing a lawsuit. Oh
there we go. What did I tell you? Everybody's going
to file a lawsuit pretty soon, and I think we're
going to be very successful in it. I don't And
as for a time, I don't think that the Trump
lawsuit will be as successful. I think the GOP lawsuit
has a better chance because the US Constitution's pretty clear
that the way elections are executed is up to the states.
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So I don't think that the federal government is going
to have much room on this. I don't think the
dj is going to be able to step in and
change it. But that that part about how they rushed
it through without having the thirty days for public comment
and feedback. That may be their way in.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And as for a timeline here, the California Supreme Court
could decide as soon as this week whether they'll take
up the Republican's latest emergency petition.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, they kind of have to. They have to decide
quickly because they got to print ballots.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
At the state capital, a Ton Wallace.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, I know you can print ballots within like a
month or whatever, but there's a reason that there was
a deadline. The deadline was last Friday. There's a reason
that there's a deadline to get things pushed through to
get on the ballot. And honestly, part of that is
so that you can have lawsuits along the way, so
that you can have opposition that jumps out. Now. I
did see something I thought was really interesting. Cal Matters
was reporting on this, and cal Matters kind of pointed
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out that the California Republicans something that we've talked about
the California Republicans were mum about the Texas Republicans changing
their map. They weren't condemning what was going on in Texas,
and the California Democrats were all upset about what was
going on in Texas. Meanwhile, the Texas Democrats aren't condemning
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what the California Democrats are doing. Now, that's obviously because
they support the retribution campaign's happening on the West coast.
But I thought this was interesting. Yeah, here we go
from cal Matters. In Texas, Trump has said that he's
entitled to five additional GOP House seats. The maneuver sparking
California's retaliatory efforts. Democratic lawmakers expected to put the the
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put it on the ballot. California maps backed by Governor
Newsom would offset the Texas map, tilting the things this way.
You heard that from the KTLA report. Let me see
Assemblymen Carl Demayo, who you've heard on KFI numerous times,
says I haven't heard a single Republican in the state
of California who's in office in the state legislature defend Texas. Now.
One thing about Carl, Carl's no dummy, I know Carl.
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Carl's not a dumb man, which is why he puts
out there and he says, I haven't heard a single
Republican in the state of California who's in office in
the state legislature defend Texas, because there are many Republicans
in the state of California that have defended Texas. Now,
maybe he hasn't heard anybody in the state legislature that's
done it, so he puts that qualifier on there. He's
very clever when it comes to being able to state
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his position in a bit of a superlative way. Demio
is an unabashed Trump supporter. According to cal Matters, jerrymandering
is wrong no matter who is doing it, says Tomio,
whether it's done by a red state or a blue
state politicians manipulating the lines of their districts, it's wrong.
So I'd love to hear that. I love that you're
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saying it's wrong for them, it's wrong for us. However,
it rings a bit hollow right now when and I
appreciate the viewpoint, but it rings hollow when Texas is
going to do that anyway. So it's really easy to
go I don't have to worry about appeasing Texas voters.
I don't have to worry about upsetting Texas Republicans. All
I have to do is take the high road in California,
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which is exactly what he's doing. I wonder how, I
wonder how the GOP feels in the state legislature about
Trump saying that he's entitled to five additional GOP House seats.
I would love to hear one of them say Trump
needs to knock this crap off, but I don't think
he's going to. Tony Strickland is a hunting to beach Republican,
and he says, I love this. When does it stop?
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He says that the gerrymandering race to the bottom would
result in a destructive country and chaos by encouraging redistricting
every two years. Instead, he said that all states should
adopt California's model, where maps are drawn every ten years
by an independent citizen redistricting commission. I could not agree more.
(09:29):
Could not agree more from a democratic standpoint, though, you say, look,
we're doing it right, and we're being taken advantage of
What is President Trump say? When it comes to the tariffs,
He's like many countries are taking advantage of us. We're
very nice, and other countries are taking advantage of us. Well,
the California Democrats are saying, when it comes to the redistricting,
we're doing it right, but other countries are taking advantage
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of us or other state excuse me. So it's this
screwy balance. And I agreed completely with what he's saying.
Other states should not be doing this, We should not
be doing this, And I know the GOP is saying
we need a lead by example. Agreed, But politicians also
know that anytime they change the way things are done,
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they run the risk of setting precedent for the next party.
It's like, it's like when Obama changed the rules. I
should say, the Democrats change the rules to try to
get Obama judges confirmed. Now, this is back fifteen years ago,
So the GOP was kind of stalling on the judges,
and the Senate went they used the nuclear option they
(10:37):
call it, which basically removed the filibuster from placing judges. Well,
what happens when Trump is in charge and he's trying
to get a Supreme Court justice put in there, and
they don't have sixty votes in the Senate. The Republicans
went we're just going to adopt the Democratic model. We'll
go nuclear, and they did. And what could the Democrats
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do except cry foul? And the only the only back
stuff they had was, well, when we did it, it
wasn't for the Supreme Court, which is a hollow argument.
So the Democrats did that, and then the next party
uses the same tactic and it burns them, and all
of them know that this is exactly how it works,
which I think is why you've got California Republicans going Texas.
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What are you doing? You're making it very difficult for
us to keep our jobs. However, if this does go
and become a nationwide what did you say? Destructive country
and chaos, as Tony Strickland put it, it will benefit
the Republicans. The Republicans have more state house seats, legislature
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legislative seats. The Republicans would win the redistricting map wars
if that were the case, especially since we've got some
migration out of New York and California and into the
red states. That's how it would happen. Oh huh, I
don't think do we have any more? Is that that's it
for politics today, isn't it? Twala. I think I think
you've front loaded us so we can get through and
be done with that.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, but you have a couple more segments, I think,
don't you little more? I don't think political segments though,
right the government politics crap ish politic ish political leaning.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'll try to, I'll try to. I'll try to stay
away from the left right divisiveness of any future political issues.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Tonight has more and is more middle of the road,
just things we should all be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How about that we shall be good people? Yeah, okay,
go with that. I love this. Also, Uh, nature is
trying to kill you. You're gonna find out what Nature's
up to next. Chris Merrill k if I AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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F I AM six forty dot com. Chris Merrill Infomo
more Stimulating Talk Listen anytime on demand on the iHeart
Radio App. You, guys, ever hurt yourself by doing something
really stupid, specify please yeah, so, yes, thank you, thank you. So.
(13:05):
I'm sitting at my real job today, you know, toiling
away just waiting for retirement, and all of a sudden,
I get the breaking news alert that Travis Kelce and
Taylor Swift are engaged. So I got giddy and I
(13:26):
jumped up and I made like the the Jonah Hill meme,
and I started going. And then I started running through
my office going trailers engaged, trailers engaged, and and I
pulled a muscle in my leg while I was prancing
through the office. And so I'm sitting at the KFI
East studios right now with a giant ice pack on
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my calf muscle because I can't walk well. At least
it was h for something worthwhile.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've I've sprained and ankle just standing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Up getting out of bed. Get horrible, man, the worst.
At least I can call mine a football injury, which
is what I'm doing. I'm saying, this is a football
injury for you. I don't even know what you're saying yours.
There's just gravity release. Yeah, just you know, old age,
(14:23):
bad deal. Sorry to hear about that. I also see
that we've got another strain of COVID. This one's moving fast.
I got stuck with that last one, and that was
my second bout of COVID. I've been fortunate. I've only
had it twice here in the last five years, and
it's still no fun. But now there's another one that
is on the move in California.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Coronavirus cases are rising fast here in California. Public health
officials from Los Angeles to the Bay Area are reporting
higher numbers in recent weeks. Cases are up about twelve
and a half percent in Los Angeles County. They're up
about fourteen and a half percent in Orange County. One
doctor says state wide rates are among the highest in
the country. The cases are tied to an omicron subvariant
(15:07):
called stratus. The Department of Health and Human Services has
delayed the rollout of this falls coronavirus booster shot for
healthy Kids and adults. HHS is led by vaccines Skeptic
Secretary Robert F.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Kennedy Junior. Okay, so the coronavirus is back, got a
new strain, and no vaccines are going to be made
available for anybody who's not high risk or elderly or whatever.
That doesn't make me feel great. They are saying that
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most of the cases that are increasing our outpatient cases,
which is great. We do like to hear that. I
don't know about you, but I when I had it,
I said, do I need to get one of those
what's the what's the drug? Pax loavied packs Loavid, that's
what it is. I like to think it was rim dizevir.
Is that the I can't remember a fat pack slothan twice? Yeah? Yeah?
(16:02):
How hard was it for you to get it? Because
when I had my positive result, I hold my doctor's
office and I said, can I get a perscription for pexilavany? Well,
the doctor would want to see you, and he doesn't
have any openings this week, but we can get you
in early next week. Oh come on. No, For me,
it was easy.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm a transplant patient, so it was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
whatever you need. Yeah, They're like, come get it immediately.
You are not throwing this two million dollar surgery away, sir.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I would think your insurance company would be like, whatever
he needs. Yeah, yeah, you got to find a new doctor, Chris.
Mine was one phone calling and it was a done deal. Yeah.
I don't know who you're working with. Man. Well, I
was in a real rural I was. I was back
in my uh at the Michigan house where my wife
is for the summer, and uh, it's a real small
town and not a lot of doctors there. Beautiful. I
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call it the I call it the San Diego, the Midwest.
It's just a beautiful place. It's a it's a wonder
for you know, five months out of the year and
then winter and it's not as much fun. But it's
a beautiful place. But they really lacking doctors. So yeah,
that's what I ran into. But I thought, you know what,
I'm uh, I'm young and healthy comparatively speaking, and uh,
(17:13):
I'll just I'll just fight this tough enough. Well, yeah,
plus my wife was there and I turned into a
giant baby when I get sick. So I was like,
em have some water, make me some soup. But she
quarantined my butt. She didn't get sick. She just said,
you are gonna go to You're gonna go to the
room and you're just gonna be there and that's gonna
(17:34):
be it, which was nice. She let me have the bed.
I thought she was gonna stick me in like a
guest bedroom or something, but she let me have the
bed and she slept in the I don't even know
where she slept. I was kind of out of it.
We do wives sleep if you're sick, you know, according
to wives, they sleep standing up watching you. Yeah, in
the dark, right, I'm always watching. Yeah, that's what they do.
(17:55):
My wife one time I was snoring real bad before
I had the seapap with it again. But she loves
it because I don't store anymore. But I was snoring
real bad, and she went and slept in the dog's bed.
She kicked the dog out of the dog bed and
then slept in the dog bed. I was just impression fit.
I go, you are just a peteit thing, aren't you?
She says, we have a big dog. Okay, that's all
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I got. I don't know if you've ever had to
call the nine eight eight service, which is the suicide
and mental health crisis lifeline. I'm so glad it exists.
I so wish it were better. We'll talk about that
here in just a few moments, in what La County
is trying to do to make things better. Next. Chris
Merrill AM six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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use it, but if you have, I'm glad it was there.
The suicide hotline in California is nine to eight eight
as the National Suicide and Mental Health Crisis Hotline. If
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you have if you are having thoughts of harming yourself,
please call nine eight eight. Evidently la County is expanding
that program that would divert some of the non violent
nine one one calls to that nine eight eight service.
If the call is related to mental health crises, you
might not know nine eight eight, so you call nine
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one one, which makes sense. Evidently, calls related to mental
health crises made to the Sheriff's Century station are going
to be diverted to counselors trained in de escalation at D. D. Hirsch,
which is the nonprofit running the nine eight eight call
centers in the region. That's from LAist. I don't know
if you've had experience with this before. Sam, you're a therapist. Yeah,
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I actually interviewed with DEDE. Hirsch once. You did. Yeah,
back in the day, you didn't get the job. No, no,
and that was on me.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I know what, I what I where My downfall with
that one was I was young and inexperienced and I
just needed more seasoning.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I got you. Yeah. So one of the things that
I had a family member and I have to be
a little careful here because I want to protect their privacy,
but they were having a crisis and they called and
they got they got sent to like I don't know.
I think it was like an out of state operator
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that was answering the call at the time, and there
was it just whatever the circumstances were, they didn't make
it worse, right, I'm going to say that they didn't
make it worse, they didn't make it better. And there
was a lot of like confusion over who's talking to who.
Granted I'm getting this from the family member who was
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going through an episode at the time, so I don't know,
you know exactly what the what the full story is,
but I just know that when they got done, I
thought that is subpar, that is not cool. And as
a family member, I was terrified. I was trying to
figure out what was going you know this, you know
it's it's after all of this happens that the other
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family members find out that somebody is going through this
this episode, and it was a it was a terrifying
moment and it it really got my hackles up, and
it got me frustrated. It got me wanting to say,
what do we need to do to make this program
as effective as possible so that when somebody is having
a crisis, they need de escalation. But in the case
of my family member, I think they also need an intervention.
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And so they called nine to one one to start with,
and then they got they got pushed to the nine
eight eight. I think they really needed to have somebody
on hand. In the future. There was a situation where
the same family member had to have had to have
nine one call in a wellness check and eventually what's
the what's the term when they kind of a weekend
in the in the facility of fifty one fifty that's
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what I thought it was. Yeah, so that was it
turned out. It turned into one of those situations. And honestly,
I have to give credit to the LAPD. I will
rip on them numerous times in the future, but they
do when they do things right. I got to give
them credit for doing things right, And this was a
situation where they did help and they got my family
member to the place that they needed to go. They
got them the help that they needed, got them to
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the hospital. The hospital got them to the to the center.
The trouble that I see is that the police in
this case are not trained in the escalation, not trained
in mental health. They're trained in handling the situation in
the moment to get them to the right place, which
is exactly what they did, and I have to give
them full credit for it. However, it was also a
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bit impersonal And I don't know, Sam, how personal how
personal do you get as you're talking with somebody who
is going through a crisis, because I feel like you
have to earn trust while you're having a conversation. I mean,
they're coming to you in the most vulnerable moment in
their lives. If you're too sterile, that feels like that
could be a bit of a concern for the person
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who's who's having trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Well, and it's for a lot of people who are
doing the especially crisis work, they're not necessarily there to
build a sense of like trust and rapport with somebody
like a therapist, would over, you know, over a period
of time. They need to get the essentials and get
the care that they need, the essential stuff for them
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as fast as possible, so that I do. That's one
of the issues that I have is that they don't
have enough time to really sit down and talking. They're
not necessarily trained to build that sense of trust and rapport.
They just need to get the information that they need
to get so that they can get the person to
where they need to be.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, So it's almost like an it is like a
nine to one to one operator for a mental health crisis. Yeah,
but gather information and getting them to getting them to
a safe space. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
And I personally love the idea of having a plain clothed,
trained professional going in to help someone with a mental
health crisis, because if you see, if a person who's
going through a mental health crisis sees a person in
blue with guns on their hips, with a badge on
their chest, that alone can exacerbate a situation just because
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of the fear some people have of law law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Is it just intimidating because it's law enforcement? Does I
have to do with authority? Does it have to do
with it has to do with a lot of it. It
could be anything.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
It could be stereotypes that people have of law enforcement when,
especially for people who are going through mental health crises,
you don't want to see someone with a gun when
someone needs someone to talk to.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, And I also know that sometimes when you're having
an episode, and I experiences in my family member that
like they didn't know really where they were, what was
even going on. They were just in kind of a
psychosis where they didn't even remember the next day what happened.
It's almost like they blacked out in that moment. And
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I don't know how they I don't know how you
come out of that. But that's that's where the mental
health Frankly, I'd never dealt with anything like that before.
It scared the hell out of me. It's terrifying. It
is terrifying, absure, it was terrifying for them, and it
was terrifying for all of us that wanted to help too.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
And that's why I'd rather instead of seeing a cop
have to show up there who's trained to who's not
necessarily trained to de escalate mental health crises. I'd rather
see someone who has the mental health training to be
able to sit down with someone and bring them to
a place where they can at least voice what the
concern is, what their problem is, and be able to
get them the help that they need.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So what is the solution that I get that La
County is expanding this system where they're able to take
the non violent nine one one calls for mental health
and kind of diverted to the nine eight eight. But
also when you're dealing with somebody who's in a crisis,
they can be a bit unpredictable. Is I guess maybe
I'm playing in a stereotype, but it's sort of my
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assumption they can be a bit unpredictable. I mean, do
you need to pair that person up with a law
enforcement officer, a uniformed officer who's maybe nearby.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Not necessarily, okay, I mean people, It's just like with
a police officer showing up to a scene of a
violent crime. They take that responsibility in their hands. They
know that their training will get them through it, just
like a mental health professional knows how to handle situations
when people are unstable. On that level, Now, if it's
somebody who like if they make clear when they make
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the call into law enforcement to nine to one one
that this person has a weapon or this person has
access to something that can be harmful. That's something that
you're going to more likely see an armed officer go.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Along with that's different situation altogether. Yeah, okay, all right,
that's fascinating. How do we increase the the army of
mental health professionals?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Then, well, and this is what they were saying, ways
to increase funding for the police out here is by
making it so that you start actually paying for more
mental health professionals to take the responsibility off of the
police themselves so that they can actually police the people
who need policing. And so that's the way you do
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it is just by having making it so it's a
better place to work for mental health professionals, make it
so that they have, you know, a little bit higher
pay because they are working with people who, you know,
it is a little more high risk.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, it's stressful, as I'll get out. I don't know
how they do with the Saints. LAPD diverted about fourteen
hundred calls for service in twenty twenty four. Along counselors
were able to handle ninety seven percent of those calls
with out law enforcement involvement. So that's great. So it
sounds like when when it's operating correctly, it really works.
But again, my experience with it, at least my family
(27:38):
members experience with it, was less than sellar. I certainly
hope that we can figure out ways to make that better.
If that has to do with funding, and so be it.
And if it if it means that we're able to
let the cops go catch the burglars, right, go catch
the murderers, go catch the rapists, all the people who
are terrorizing us, and let somebody else deal with the
people who are in crisis. It seems like that's the
right solution, but it cost. Last thing we ever want
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to do is see our taxes go up. Right, then
we get mad when there are enough cops in the
street weird. I was surprised when I saw that somebody
was trying to take on a mountain lion. It feels
like a bad way to spend your camping trip. We'll
tell you what they were up to next.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Good Evening, Chris Merrill in four Move Tonight KFI AM
six forty more stimulating talk all right. Imagine you go camping,
what a fine, fine time you're having, and while you're there,
you hear something in the woods. What could it be?
Could it be the call of the wild? Indeed it is.
Unfortunately this wild wants to kill you and eat you,
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but it's not personal.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
New video, this one he shows a close encounter with
a mountain lion. You can see that mountain lion walking
past this man right here.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Who whiskey?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You can't see it because radio.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Camping and Malibu. Oh my goodness, would you do the
same thing?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That man had.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Quite the story to share with other campers. Afterwards, Let's
go to NBC for's Brittany Hope why they live Correo
State Park in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Brittany, tell us what's going on? Tell us the same story.
I just told you that there was a guy who
was camping and there was a mountain lining there. Ready,
go ahead and tell.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Us tell us the thing again where that sighting happened. Brittany,
good morning, My goodness. That guy looks so calm and collected.
Did he say what it was going through his mind
at that moment?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's continuing the conversation. Have you ever noticed. I know
TV reports have one, two, three, four stages. So it's
the anchor tells you the story and then tosses it
to the reporter. The reporter tells you the story again,
and then tosses it to the pre recorded package, which
then tells you the story again, and then it comes
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back to the reporter, who will say, and back here
live and yeah, the lightest I hear is blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. Now back to you in
the studio. It's all the next time you watch, it's
always the same four things. So it's anchor, toss to report,
anchor tells the story, toss the reporter tells the story,
reporter says, uh, gives it an intro. That intro, then
(30:15):
it will start with some sort of a sound or
a live shot of somebody giving a quote or I
don't know, water running. If it's a story about radio,
it's always a picture of the the needles moving on
the you know, and then uh, and then it and
then they tell the whole story, and then they come
and we're back live now. Always I'm really impressed at
NBC was like, she tells the story and then she
(30:37):
actually continues the story. She talks to the reporter. That's
how it should be done, very conversational.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
I like it, man, I will have what he's having.
He said he wasn't nervous only because the mountain lion
wasn't aggressive, and you saw it right in the video.
He completely keeps it cool.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would not have.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
He's kind of just on his phone right when all
of a sudden, that mountain lion comes up.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You see they notice each other.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
He's definitely alarmed with the mountain lion honestly looks more
scared of the human and then runs away. Now, he
said he was at the ranger station trying to get
cell service because sell service out here is really not great.
And that is when this encounter happened.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It seems like some pretty awful camping. Do you hear
all the cars, the traffic doesn't feel like you're getting
out to nature, doesn't.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
So here and back to the campsite to tell everyone, like, hey,
there's a mountain line and it just ran in the
direction of the campsite where there's kids.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Nobody really believed me at Bert see there you go.
So she tells the story and then goes to the package.
See how that goes all right, which.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Was really vindicating to get that footage from the ranger,
and once they gave it to me, everybody was a
little more surprised.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, initially, that's pretty great. So he runs into the
mountain line. He's like, hey, get out here. Lion's like, okay, cool,
what is that? Oh is this? Uh there's another one.
We've got another We've got a uh all right, there's
a there's also been a cougar sighted in thousand.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oaks, rare, rare?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well was she knowing that she was at the holiday
inn bar? Oh? There we god one of them, a
thousand oaks. Once a cougar and thousand oaks. Oh yeah,
very good. You gotta watch out for them. Ll you
chill live and make half of your stuff? Uh? Universal
City that was where I'd find the cougar. That's the
good one here. I was just trying to find someplace
(32:37):
that I could. I want to go with Beverly Hills,
but it felt a bit too on the nose. Red
Onion Cougarville. Uh used to go to Yeah, I used
to go to o c for uh for for cougars.
I didn't realize that there was a lion Safari. Oc
Register was talking about the the old Lion Country Safarian Irvine.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Do you ever go to that?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, I didn't know existed. I didn't either. I didn't either.
I didn't live here in the in the seventies or eighties,
so I mean I'm see. It was a drive through
safari conceptualized by Harry Schuster, who was a developer from
South Africa evidently had experience with lions and maybe even
The idea was to provide Orange County residents and tourists
a chance to experience the exotic sites and sounds of
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an African safari. It started off as a success, uh oh,
bringing in more than one million visitors during the first
year of operation. What could possibly go wrong? You drove
down the trail, you saw various animals roaming around, including giraffes, rhinos, elephants,
and of course lions. Fraser, the lion was the star attraction.
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The elderly father fathered more than thirty cubs out a
boy creating you know, he found cougars Nords County nice,
creating a population boom of lions in the park. He
died of pneumonia in seventy two, that'll get you. He
was buried on the Safari grounds. It seems like an
unnecessary detail, so be it. The following year, a movie
inspired by Fraser was released titled Fraser the Lovable Lion. Okay, fun,
(34:09):
one hundred and forty acre attraction. You drove through it.
There was a train, hippo, pedal boat, pedal boats, it says,
a river ride, which gave the nearby animatronic Jungle Cruise
Ride at Disneyland to run for its money. That's fun.
And then what happened? Yeah, yeah, well according to the
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Orange County Registered Great Report. By the way, by the
Orange count of Registered loved this. Carolyn Burt wrote the story.
The park made its fair share of headlines for having
multiple animal breakouts and attacks Bubbles. The hippo managed to
escape in nineteen seventy eight. For nineteen days, many tried
and failed to capture her until a tranquilizer Allegedly, the
(34:55):
tranquilizer shot allegedly caused an awkward fall and led to
her death. I loved to say allegedly, as in, this
is our story and we're sticking to it. Misty the
elephant broke three, It broke free and eighty three after
a nearby concert at the Irvine Meadows Amphitheater, so maintenance
yard workers were moving the animals because they thought that
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they might be spooked by the loud music. In an
attempt to read chain Misty, the park warden Lee Heaton
was killed when an elephant stepped on him and crushed
his head. That was murder. That wasn't an accident, do
you think so? Yeah? I mean it's a great way
to cover up your crime. You can just get an
elephant to sit on somebody. No, no, it was just
wasn't a human crime. That was the elephant. Oh you
think the elephant.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Oh, the elephant was like, oh you want to put
the chain back on me? Oh God, crush.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Them because I don't know if you've ever done that
whole how would I get away with murder? Exercise? But
if you could, you know, somehow cover up your crime
by making it look like an animal stuffed on their face,
that would be one way to do it. Yeah. Yeah,
that wasn't the only accident. Oh, good lord. A chimpanzee
attacked its handler, and a two year old was mulled
by a tiger. Okay, well you know tiger's gonna tiger
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bad publicity from the attacks escaped animals in a mix
of challenging economy and arise in insurance claims. You don't
say the Lion Country. Safari Intervine closed its gates for
good the following year in nineteen eighty four, but for
fourteen years you could drive through and really challenge your
own existence.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
In your own car too. That's what I mean. Like,
who what if you're like say, and it's eighty fours.
What if you're in like a dots in B two
ten and it overheated?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Great point. Yeah, that was right after the gas crisis
when all the cars got really small too. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you imagine? No, get a rental and pay for
the insurance. That's what you do anytime you have to
a drive through Safari. Don't take your own Kia through there.
That's Ridiculous'll do that or Turo Probably do a Turo
(36:51):
car at least go through in style. Chris Maryland from
O'Kelly night, k IF I AM six forty live everywhere
in the iHeart Radio app.
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Good to see boys got your back today. See boys, Yes,
(00:27):
thank you, appreciate that. Appreciate that. Let's start with lawsuits abroad,
lawsuits nearby, lawsuits happening all over the place. It was
not really a question because this is what we do.
We do something the politicians do and then the other
politicians sue them for it. President Trump wants to make
a move on the Federal Reserve, he gets sued for it.
Gavin Newsom wants to redistrict, he gets sued for it.
(00:49):
That's exactly what's happening in Sacramento is the Republicans are
saying lawsuits a hooy fight is from Katy like to
try to preserve democracy in California.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's what GOP State Senator Tony Strickland argued, is at
state as he and fellow Republicans and the Dylan Law
Group announced they filed this emergency petition asking the California
Supreme Court to block Governor Gavin Newsom's redistricting measure, known
as Prop fifty, from appearing on the special election ballot
this November fourth.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oooh, that's a tough ye. It's kind of the Hail
Mary by the Republicans. I don't think the judge is
going to block the petition to the to the people
to overturn the people's verdict. I mean, how do you
change how do you change one of those voter initiatives.
You ask the voters to vote on it. So I
(01:41):
don't know that it's going to be successful, but yeah,
I mean, if you're GOP, it's worth a shot. You
throw everything you got at it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Plan asks voters to pause through twenty thirty the state's
Independent citizens Through Districting Commission in charge of drawing congressional maps. Instead,
the proposal asked voters to approve this Jerrymander congressional district
map to shift five red districts into blue districts, all
with the goal to help Democrats pick up more US
health seats statewide. Maintains his plan is in response to
(02:12):
Republicans in Texas and potentially other red states as they
move forward with their own redistricting plans backed by President
Donald Trump aimed at picking up GOP house seats.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They fired the first shot Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Open your eyes to what is going on in the
United States of America in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Side note, Does it sound like Gavin Newsom is up
to like four packs a day? You hearing that little
lake Suzanne Plaschette. He's got that really gravelly. I don't
know if I love it or hate it. I really
can't tell, to be honest. I mean, I always wish
I had that great big I mean, you just heard
Mark Thompson in with Tim. I always wish I had
(02:53):
that voice. And I feel like Newsom is trying to
get that voice. He's really trying to go all in.
It is kind of the Christian Bale Batman voices. Yes,
which is why I've always called him Governor Batman. He
looks like Bruce Wayne and he sounds like Christian Bale.
On a scale of one to RFK Junior, he's about
a six. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Really, okay, all right, all right, RFK June. He sounds
like he's talking to the little hole in his throat.
Yeah he's got.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, well he's got he's got like a like a
throat thing going on. Ye Oh, come off, thank you. Unbelievable,
really good. Okay, So back to the story from Governor Batman.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Open your eyes to what is going on in the
United States of America in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You'll mess with the wrong bath.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
A Batman.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Okay, that's what this is about. We're going to challenge
him in court.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Strickland and others here are your news. Was plan violates
the state constitution, noting the plan was rush through the
legislature in less than a week's time instead of following
a constitutionally required thirty day period allowing for public review.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh that might be their their their way in. I
mean that sounds like that sounds like they violated the
constitution to try to change the constitution.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They also, are you democratic politicians and consultants were directly
involved in making the newly proposed gerry mendered map that
they say violates the state constitution Because as of today,
only the California Independent Citizens or Districting Commission is constitutionally
allowed to be involved in the map making process.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That one seems a little more specious. I'm not so sure.
You know, if you wanted to, you could say that
lobbyists can't write laws, but neither party is going to
approve that. No, because lobbyists like to come to them
and they go, hey, you know, they got that big
cigar with about an inch and a half worth of ash.
In the end, they go, hey, have I got a
law for you? And if you can get this on
(04:54):
the ballot, boy, if I got some campaign dollars, you're
just gonna.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Love this entire process we are going through right now,
where the legislature and others have drawn maps, is already
them exercising a power that they don't have.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think I'm going to be filing a lawsuit. Oh
there we go. What did I tell you? Everybody's going
to file a lawsuit pretty soon, and I think we're
going to be very successful in it. I don't And
as for a time, I don't think that the Trump
lawsuit will be as successful. I think the GOP lawsuit
has a better chance because the US Constitution's pretty clear
that the way elections are executed is up to the states.
(05:39):
So I don't think that the federal government is going
to have much room on this. I don't think the
dj is going to be able to step in and
change it. But that that part about how they rushed
it through without having the thirty days for public comment
and feedback. That may be their way in.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And as for a timeline here, the California Supreme Court
could decide as soon as this week whether they'll take
up the Republican's latest emergency petition.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, they kind of have to. They have to decide
quickly because they got to print ballots.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
At the state capital, a Ton Wallace.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, I know you can print ballots within like a
month or whatever, but there's a reason that there was
a deadline. The deadline was last Friday. There's a reason
that there's a deadline to get things pushed through to
get on the ballot. And honestly, part of that is
so that you can have lawsuits along the way, so
that you can have opposition that jumps out. Now. I
did see something I thought was really interesting. Cal Matters
was reporting on this, and cal Matters kind of pointed
(06:33):
out that the California Republicans something that we've talked about
the California Republicans were mum about the Texas Republicans changing
their map. They weren't condemning what was going on in Texas,
and the California Democrats were all upset about what was
going on in Texas. Meanwhile, the Texas Democrats aren't condemning
(06:54):
what the California Democrats are doing. Now, that's obviously because
they support the retribution campaign's happening on the West coast.
But I thought this was interesting. Yeah, here we go
from cal Matters. In Texas, Trump has said that he's
entitled to five additional GOP House seats. The maneuver sparking
California's retaliatory efforts. Democratic lawmakers expected to put the the
(07:17):
put it on the ballot. California maps backed by Governor
Newsom would offset the Texas map, tilting the things this way.
You heard that from the KTLA report. Let me see
Assemblymen Carl Demayo, who you've heard on KFI numerous times,
says I haven't heard a single Republican in the state
of California who's in office in the state legislature defend Texas. Now.
One thing about Carl, Carl's no dummy, I know Carl.
(07:39):
Carl's not a dumb man, which is why he puts
out there and he says, I haven't heard a single
Republican in the state of California who's in office in
the state legislature defend Texas, because there are many Republicans
in the state of California that have defended Texas. Now,
maybe he hasn't heard anybody in the state legislature that's
done it, so he puts that qualifier on there. He's
very clever when it comes to being able to state
(08:02):
his position in a bit of a superlative way. Demio
is an unabashed Trump supporter. According to cal Matters, jerrymandering
is wrong no matter who is doing it, says Tomio,
whether it's done by a red state or a blue
state politicians manipulating the lines of their districts, it's wrong.
So I'd love to hear that. I love that you're
(08:23):
saying it's wrong for them, it's wrong for us. However,
it rings a bit hollow right now when and I
appreciate the viewpoint, but it rings hollow when Texas is
going to do that anyway. So it's really easy to
go I don't have to worry about appeasing Texas voters.
I don't have to worry about upsetting Texas Republicans. All
I have to do is take the high road in California,
(08:46):
which is exactly what he's doing. I wonder how, I
wonder how the GOP feels in the state legislature about
Trump saying that he's entitled to five additional GOP House seats.
I would love to hear one of them say Trump
needs to knock this crap off, but I don't think
he's going to. Tony Strickland is a hunting to beach Republican,
and he says, I love this. When does it stop?
(09:08):
He says that the gerrymandering race to the bottom would
result in a destructive country and chaos by encouraging redistricting
every two years. Instead, he said that all states should
adopt California's model, where maps are drawn every ten years
by an independent citizen redistricting commission. I could not agree more.
(09:29):
Could not agree more from a democratic standpoint, though, you say, look,
we're doing it right, and we're being taken advantage of
What is President Trump say? When it comes to the tariffs,
He's like many countries are taking advantage of us. We're
very nice, and other countries are taking advantage of us. Well,
the California Democrats are saying, when it comes to the redistricting,
we're doing it right, but other countries are taking advantage
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of us or other state excuse me. So it's this
screwy balance. And I agreed completely with what he's saying.
Other states should not be doing this, We should not
be doing this, And I know the GOP is saying
we need a lead by example. Agreed, But politicians also
know that anytime they change the way things are done,
(10:12):
they run the risk of setting precedent for the next party.
It's like, it's like when Obama changed the rules. I
should say, the Democrats change the rules to try to
get Obama judges confirmed. Now, this is back fifteen years ago,
So the GOP was kind of stalling on the judges,
and the Senate went they used the nuclear option they
(10:37):
call it, which basically removed the filibuster from placing judges. Well,
what happens when Trump is in charge and he's trying
to get a Supreme Court justice put in there, and
they don't have sixty votes in the Senate. The Republicans
went we're just going to adopt the Democratic model. We'll
go nuclear, and they did. And what could the Democrats
(10:58):
do except cry foul? And the only the only back
stuff they had was, well, when we did it, it
wasn't for the Supreme Court, which is a hollow argument.
So the Democrats did that, and then the next party
uses the same tactic and it burns them, and all
of them know that this is exactly how it works,
which I think is why you've got California Republicans going Texas.
(11:19):
What are you doing? You're making it very difficult for
us to keep our jobs. However, if this does go
and become a nationwide what did you say? Destructive country
and chaos, as Tony Strickland put it, it will benefit
the Republicans. The Republicans have more state house seats, legislature
(11:40):
legislative seats. The Republicans would win the redistricting map wars
if that were the case, especially since we've got some
migration out of New York and California and into the
red states. That's how it would happen. Oh huh, I
don't think do we have any more? Is that that's it
for politics today, isn't it? Twala. I think I think
you've front loaded us so we can get through and
be done with that.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, but you have a couple more segments, I think,
don't you little more? I don't think political segments though,
right the government politics crap ish politic ish political leaning.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'll try to, I'll try to. I'll try to stay
away from the left right divisiveness of any future political issues.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Tonight has more and is more middle of the road,
just things we should all be thinking about.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How about that we shall be good people? Yeah, okay,
go with that. I love this. Also, Uh, nature is
trying to kill you. You're gonna find out what Nature's
up to next. Chris Merrill k if I AM six
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more Stimulating Talk Listen anytime on demand on the iHeart
Radio App. You, guys, ever hurt yourself by doing something
really stupid, specify please yeah, so, yes, thank you, thank you. So.
(13:05):
I'm sitting at my real job today, you know, toiling
away just waiting for retirement, and all of a sudden,
I get the breaking news alert that Travis Kelce and
Taylor Swift are engaged. So I got giddy and I
(13:26):
jumped up and I made like the the Jonah Hill meme,
and I started going. And then I started running through
my office going trailers engaged, trailers engaged, and and I
pulled a muscle in my leg while I was prancing
through the office. And so I'm sitting at the KFI
East studios right now with a giant ice pack on
(13:49):
my calf muscle because I can't walk well. At least
it was h for something worthwhile.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've I've sprained and ankle just standing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Up getting out of bed. Get horrible, man, the worst.
At least I can call mine a football injury, which
is what I'm doing. I'm saying, this is a football
injury for you. I don't even know what you're saying yours.
There's just gravity release. Yeah, just you know, old age,
(14:23):
bad deal. Sorry to hear about that. I also see
that we've got another strain of COVID. This one's moving fast.
I got stuck with that last one, and that was
my second bout of COVID. I've been fortunate. I've only
had it twice here in the last five years, and
it's still no fun. But now there's another one that
is on the move in California.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Coronavirus cases are rising fast here in California. Public health
officials from Los Angeles to the Bay Area are reporting
higher numbers in recent weeks. Cases are up about twelve
and a half percent in Los Angeles County. They're up
about fourteen and a half percent in Orange County. One
doctor says state wide rates are among the highest in
the country. The cases are tied to an omicron subvariant
(15:07):
called stratus. The Department of Health and Human Services has
delayed the rollout of this falls coronavirus booster shot for
healthy Kids and adults. HHS is led by vaccines Skeptic
Secretary Robert F.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Kennedy Junior. Okay, so the coronavirus is back, got a
new strain, and no vaccines are going to be made
available for anybody who's not high risk or elderly or whatever.
That doesn't make me feel great. They are saying that
(15:41):
most of the cases that are increasing our outpatient cases,
which is great. We do like to hear that. I
don't know about you, but I when I had it,
I said, do I need to get one of those
what's the what's the drug? Pax loavied packs Loavid, that's
what it is. I like to think it was rim dizevir.
Is that the I can't remember a fat pack slothan twice? Yeah? Yeah?
(16:02):
How hard was it for you to get it? Because
when I had my positive result, I hold my doctor's
office and I said, can I get a perscription for pexilavany? Well,
the doctor would want to see you, and he doesn't
have any openings this week, but we can get you
in early next week. Oh come on. No, For me,
it was easy.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm a transplant patient, so it was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
whatever you need. Yeah, They're like, come get it immediately.
You are not throwing this two million dollar surgery away, sir.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I would think your insurance company would be like, whatever
he needs. Yeah, yeah, you got to find a new doctor, Chris.
Mine was one phone calling and it was a done deal. Yeah.
I don't know who you're working with. Man. Well, I
was in a real rural I was. I was back
in my uh at the Michigan house where my wife
is for the summer, and uh, it's a real small
town and not a lot of doctors there. Beautiful. I
(16:51):
call it the I call it the San Diego, the Midwest.
It's just a beautiful place. It's a it's a wonder
for you know, five months out of the year and
then winter and it's not as much fun. But it's
a beautiful place. But they really lacking doctors. So yeah,
that's what I ran into. But I thought, you know what,
I'm uh, I'm young and healthy comparatively speaking, and uh,
(17:13):
I'll just I'll just fight this tough enough. Well, yeah,
plus my wife was there and I turned into a
giant baby when I get sick. So I was like,
em have some water, make me some soup. But she
quarantined my butt. She didn't get sick. She just said,
you are gonna go to You're gonna go to the
room and you're just gonna be there and that's gonna
(17:34):
be it, which was nice. She let me have the bed.
I thought she was gonna stick me in like a
guest bedroom or something, but she let me have the
bed and she slept in the I don't even know
where she slept. I was kind of out of it.
We do wives sleep if you're sick, you know, according
to wives, they sleep standing up watching you. Yeah, in
the dark, right, I'm always watching. Yeah, that's what they do.
(17:55):
My wife one time I was snoring real bad before
I had the seapap with it again. But she loves
it because I don't store anymore. But I was snoring
real bad, and she went and slept in the dog's bed.
She kicked the dog out of the dog bed and
then slept in the dog bed. I was just impression fit.
I go, you are just a peteit thing, aren't you?
She says, we have a big dog. Okay, that's all
(18:18):
I got. I don't know if you've ever had to
call the nine eight eight service, which is the suicide
and mental health crisis lifeline. I'm so glad it exists.
I so wish it were better. We'll talk about that
here in just a few moments, in what La County
is trying to do to make things better. Next. Chris
Merrill AM six forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (18:46):
Moe Kelly Show. Chris Maryland from oKFI AM six forty
more stimulating talk and listen anytime on demand on the
iHeart Radio app. I hope that you've never had to
use it, but if you have, I'm glad it was there.
The suicide hotline in California is nine to eight eight
as the National Suicide and Mental Health Crisis Hotline. If
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you have if you are having thoughts of harming yourself,
please call nine eight eight. Evidently la County is expanding
that program that would divert some of the non violent
nine one one calls to that nine eight eight service.
If the call is related to mental health crises, you
might not know nine eight eight, so you call nine
(19:30):
one one, which makes sense. Evidently, calls related to mental
health crises made to the Sheriff's Century station are going
to be diverted to counselors trained in de escalation at D. D. Hirsch,
which is the nonprofit running the nine eight eight call
centers in the region. That's from LAist. I don't know
if you've had experience with this before. Sam, you're a therapist. Yeah,
(19:52):
I actually interviewed with DEDE. Hirsch once. You did. Yeah,
back in the day, you didn't get the job. No, no,
and that was on me.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I know what, I what I where My downfall with
that one was I was young and inexperienced and I
just needed more seasoning.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I got you. Yeah. So one of the things that
I had a family member and I have to be
a little careful here because I want to protect their privacy,
but they were having a crisis and they called and
they got they got sent to like I don't know.
I think it was like an out of state operator
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that was answering the call at the time, and there
was it just whatever the circumstances were, they didn't make
it worse, right, I'm going to say that they didn't
make it worse, they didn't make it better. And there
was a lot of like confusion over who's talking to who.
Granted I'm getting this from the family member who was
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going through an episode at the time, so I don't know,
you know exactly what the what the full story is,
but I just know that when they got done, I
thought that is subpar, that is not cool. And as
a family member, I was terrified. I was trying to
figure out what was going you know this, you know
it's it's after all of this happens that the other
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family members find out that somebody is going through this
this episode, and it was a it was a terrifying
moment and it it really got my hackles up, and
it got me frustrated. It got me wanting to say,
what do we need to do to make this program
as effective as possible so that when somebody is having
a crisis, they need de escalation. But in the case
of my family member, I think they also need an intervention.
(21:31):
And so they called nine to one one to start with,
and then they got they got pushed to the nine
eight eight. I think they really needed to have somebody
on hand. In the future. There was a situation where
the same family member had to have had to have
nine one call in a wellness check and eventually what's
the what's the term when they kind of a weekend
in the in the facility of fifty one fifty that's
(21:55):
what I thought it was. Yeah, so that was it
turned out. It turned into one of those situations. And honestly,
I have to give credit to the LAPD. I will
rip on them numerous times in the future, but they
do when they do things right. I got to give
them credit for doing things right, And this was a
situation where they did help and they got my family
member to the place that they needed to go. They
got them the help that they needed, got them to
(22:16):
the hospital. The hospital got them to the to the center.
The trouble that I see is that the police in
this case are not trained in the escalation, not trained
in mental health. They're trained in handling the situation in
the moment to get them to the right place, which
is exactly what they did, and I have to give
them full credit for it. However, it was also a
(22:39):
bit impersonal And I don't know, Sam, how personal how
personal do you get as you're talking with somebody who
is going through a crisis, because I feel like you
have to earn trust while you're having a conversation. I mean,
they're coming to you in the most vulnerable moment in
their lives. If you're too sterile, that feels like that
could be a bit of a concern for the person
(23:00):
who's who's having trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Well, and it's for a lot of people who are
doing the especially crisis work, they're not necessarily there to
build a sense of like trust and rapport with somebody
like a therapist, would over, you know, over a period
of time. They need to get the essentials and get
the care that they need, the essential stuff for them
(23:22):
as fast as possible, so that I do. That's one
of the issues that I have is that they don't
have enough time to really sit down and talking. They're
not necessarily trained to build that sense of trust and rapport.
They just need to get the information that they need
to get so that they can get the person to
where they need to be.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, So it's almost like an it is like a
nine to one to one operator for a mental health crisis. Yeah,
but gather information and getting them to getting them to
a safe space. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
And I personally love the idea of having a plain clothed,
trained professional going in to help someone with a mental
health crisis, because if you see, if a person who's
going through a mental health crisis sees a person in
blue with guns on their hips, with a badge on
their chest, that alone can exacerbate a situation just because
(24:12):
of the fear some people have of law law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Is it just intimidating because it's law enforcement? Does I
have to do with authority? Does it have to do
with it has to do with a lot of it. It
could be anything.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
It could be stereotypes that people have of law enforcement when,
especially for people who are going through mental health crises,
you don't want to see someone with a gun when
someone needs someone to talk to.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, And I also know that sometimes when you're having
an episode, and I experiences in my family member that
like they didn't know really where they were, what was
even going on. They were just in kind of a
psychosis where they didn't even remember the next day what happened.
It's almost like they blacked out in that moment. And
(24:53):
I don't know how they I don't know how you
come out of that. But that's that's where the mental
health Frankly, I'd never dealt with anything like that before.
It scared the hell out of me. It's terrifying. It
is terrifying, absure, it was terrifying for them, and it
was terrifying for all of us that wanted to help too.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
And that's why I'd rather instead of seeing a cop
have to show up there who's trained to who's not
necessarily trained to de escalate mental health crises. I'd rather
see someone who has the mental health training to be
able to sit down with someone and bring them to
a place where they can at least voice what the
concern is, what their problem is, and be able to
get them the help that they need.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So what is the solution that I get that La
County is expanding this system where they're able to take
the non violent nine one one calls for mental health
and kind of diverted to the nine eight eight. But
also when you're dealing with somebody who's in a crisis,
they can be a bit unpredictable. Is I guess maybe
I'm playing in a stereotype, but it's sort of my
(25:50):
assumption they can be a bit unpredictable. I mean, do
you need to pair that person up with a law
enforcement officer, a uniformed officer who's maybe nearby.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Not necessarily, okay, I mean people, It's just like with
a police officer showing up to a scene of a
violent crime. They take that responsibility in their hands. They
know that their training will get them through it, just
like a mental health professional knows how to handle situations
when people are unstable. On that level, Now, if it's
somebody who like if they make clear when they make
(26:21):
the call into law enforcement to nine to one one
that this person has a weapon or this person has
access to something that can be harmful. That's something that
you're going to more likely see an armed officer go.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Along with that's different situation altogether. Yeah, okay, all right,
that's fascinating. How do we increase the the army of
mental health professionals?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Then, well, and this is what they were saying, ways
to increase funding for the police out here is by
making it so that you start actually paying for more
mental health professionals to take the responsibility off of the
police themselves so that they can actually police the people
who need policing. And so that's the way you do
(27:03):
it is just by having making it so it's a
better place to work for mental health professionals, make it
so that they have, you know, a little bit higher
pay because they are working with people who, you know,
it is a little more high risk.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, it's stressful, as I'll get out. I don't know
how they do with the Saints. LAPD diverted about fourteen
hundred calls for service in twenty twenty four. Along counselors
were able to handle ninety seven percent of those calls
with out law enforcement involvement. So that's great. So it
sounds like when when it's operating correctly, it really works.
But again, my experience with it, at least my family
(27:38):
members experience with it, was less than sellar. I certainly
hope that we can figure out ways to make that better.
If that has to do with funding, and so be it.
And if it if it means that we're able to
let the cops go catch the burglars, right, go catch
the murderers, go catch the rapists, all the people who
are terrorizing us, and let somebody else deal with the
people who are in crisis. It seems like that's the
right solution, but it cost. Last thing we ever want
(28:01):
to do is see our taxes go up. Right, then
we get mad when there are enough cops in the
street weird. I was surprised when I saw that somebody
was trying to take on a mountain lion. It feels
like a bad way to spend your camping trip. We'll
tell you what they were up to next.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Good Evening, Chris Merrill in four Move Tonight KFI AM
six forty more stimulating talk all right. Imagine you go camping,
what a fine, fine time you're having, and while you're there,
you hear something in the woods. What could it be?
Could it be the call of the wild? Indeed it is.
Unfortunately this wild wants to kill you and eat you,
(28:51):
but it's not personal.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
New video, this one he shows a close encounter with
a mountain lion. You can see that mountain lion walking
past this man right here.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Who whiskey?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You can't see it because radio.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Camping and Malibu. Oh my goodness, would you do the
same thing?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That man had.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Quite the story to share with other campers. Afterwards, Let's
go to NBC for's Brittany Hope why they live Correo
State Park in Malibu.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Brittany, tell us what's going on? Tell us the same story.
I just told you that there was a guy who
was camping and there was a mountain lining there. Ready,
go ahead and tell.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Us tell us the thing again where that sighting happened. Brittany,
good morning, My goodness. That guy looks so calm and collected.
Did he say what it was going through his mind
at that moment?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's continuing the conversation. Have you ever noticed. I know
TV reports have one, two, three, four stages. So it's
the anchor tells you the story and then tosses it
to the reporter. The reporter tells you the story again,
and then tosses it to the pre recorded package, which
then tells you the story again, and then it comes
(29:54):
back to the reporter, who will say, and back here
live and yeah, the lightest I hear is blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. Now back to you in
the studio. It's all the next time you watch, it's
always the same four things. So it's anchor, toss to report,
anchor tells the story, toss the reporter tells the story,
reporter says, uh, gives it an intro. That intro, then
(30:15):
it will start with some sort of a sound or
a live shot of somebody giving a quote or I
don't know, water running. If it's a story about radio,
it's always a picture of the the needles moving on
the you know, and then uh, and then it and
then they tell the whole story, and then they come
and we're back live now. Always I'm really impressed at
NBC was like, she tells the story and then she
(30:37):
actually continues the story. She talks to the reporter. That's
how it should be done, very conversational.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
I like it, man, I will have what he's having.
He said he wasn't nervous only because the mountain lion
wasn't aggressive, and you saw it right in the video.
He completely keeps it cool.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I would not have.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
He's kind of just on his phone right when all
of a sudden, that mountain lion comes up.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You see they notice each other.
Speaker 10 (31:02):
He's definitely alarmed with the mountain lion honestly looks more
scared of the human and then runs away. Now, he
said he was at the ranger station trying to get
cell service because sell service out here is really not great.
And that is when this encounter happened.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It seems like some pretty awful camping. Do you hear
all the cars, the traffic doesn't feel like you're getting
out to nature, doesn't.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
So here and back to the campsite to tell everyone, like, hey,
there's a mountain line and it just ran in the
direction of the campsite where there's kids.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Nobody really believed me at Bert see there you go.
So she tells the story and then goes to the package.
See how that goes all right, which.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Was really vindicating to get that footage from the ranger,
and once they gave it to me, everybody was a
little more surprised.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, initially, that's pretty great. So he runs into the
mountain line. He's like, hey, get out here. Lion's like, okay, cool,
what is that? Oh is this? Uh there's another one.
We've got another We've got a uh all right, there's
a there's also been a cougar sighted in thousand.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oaks, rare, rare?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well was she knowing that she was at the holiday
inn bar? Oh? There we god one of them, a
thousand oaks. Once a cougar and thousand oaks. Oh yeah,
very good. You gotta watch out for them. Ll you
chill live and make half of your stuff? Uh? Universal
City that was where I'd find the cougar. That's the
good one here. I was just trying to find someplace
(32:37):
that I could. I want to go with Beverly Hills,
but it felt a bit too on the nose. Red
Onion Cougarville. Uh used to go to Yeah, I used
to go to o c for uh for for cougars.
I didn't realize that there was a lion Safari. Oc
Register was talking about the the old Lion Country Safarian Irvine.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Do you ever go to that?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, I didn't know existed. I didn't either. I didn't either.
I didn't live here in the in the seventies or eighties,
so I mean I'm see. It was a drive through
safari conceptualized by Harry Schuster, who was a developer from
South Africa evidently had experience with lions and maybe even
The idea was to provide Orange County residents and tourists
a chance to experience the exotic sites and sounds of
(33:25):
an African safari. It started off as a success, uh oh,
bringing in more than one million visitors during the first
year of operation. What could possibly go wrong? You drove
down the trail, you saw various animals roaming around, including giraffes, rhinos, elephants,
and of course lions. Fraser, the lion was the star attraction.
(33:48):
The elderly father fathered more than thirty cubs out a
boy creating you know, he found cougars Nords County nice,
creating a population boom of lions in the park. He
died of pneumonia in seventy two, that'll get you. He
was buried on the Safari grounds. It seems like an
unnecessary detail, so be it. The following year, a movie
inspired by Fraser was released titled Fraser the Lovable Lion. Okay, fun,
(34:09):
one hundred and forty acre attraction. You drove through it.
There was a train, hippo, pedal boat, pedal boats, it says,
a river ride, which gave the nearby animatronic Jungle Cruise
Ride at Disneyland to run for its money. That's fun.
And then what happened? Yeah, yeah, well according to the
(34:32):
Orange County Registered Great Report. By the way, by the
Orange count of Registered loved this. Carolyn Burt wrote the story.
The park made its fair share of headlines for having
multiple animal breakouts and attacks Bubbles. The hippo managed to
escape in nineteen seventy eight. For nineteen days, many tried
and failed to capture her until a tranquilizer Allegedly, the
(34:55):
tranquilizer shot allegedly caused an awkward fall and led to
her death. I loved to say allegedly, as in, this
is our story and we're sticking to it. Misty the
elephant broke three, It broke free and eighty three after
a nearby concert at the Irvine Meadows Amphitheater, so maintenance
yard workers were moving the animals because they thought that
(35:16):
they might be spooked by the loud music. In an
attempt to read chain Misty, the park warden Lee Heaton
was killed when an elephant stepped on him and crushed
his head. That was murder. That wasn't an accident, do
you think so? Yeah? I mean it's a great way
to cover up your crime. You can just get an
elephant to sit on somebody. No, no, it was just
wasn't a human crime. That was the elephant. Oh you
think the elephant.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Oh, the elephant was like, oh you want to put
the chain back on me? Oh God, crush.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Them because I don't know if you've ever done that
whole how would I get away with murder? Exercise? But
if you could, you know, somehow cover up your crime
by making it look like an animal stuffed on their face,
that would be one way to do it. Yeah. Yeah,
that wasn't the only accident. Oh, good lord. A chimpanzee
attacked its handler, and a two year old was mulled
by a tiger. Okay, well you know tiger's gonna tiger
(36:03):
bad publicity from the attacks escaped animals in a mix
of challenging economy and arise in insurance claims. You don't
say the Lion Country. Safari Intervine closed its gates for
good the following year in nineteen eighty four, but for
fourteen years you could drive through and really challenge your
own existence.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
In your own car too. That's what I mean. Like,
who what if you're like say, and it's eighty fours.
What if you're in like a dots in B two
ten and it overheated?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Great point. Yeah, that was right after the gas crisis
when all the cars got really small too. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you imagine? No, get a rental and pay for
the insurance. That's what you do anytime you have to
a drive through Safari. Don't take your own Kia through there.
That's Ridiculous'll do that or Turo Probably do a Turo
(36:51):
car at least go through in style. Chris Maryland from
O'Kelly night, k IF I AM six forty live everywhere
in the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
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