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August 28, 2025 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with a look at the way news outlets scrambled to cover the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce engagement AND what makes Dodger Stadium the most Instagrammable MLB stadium in America…PLUS – Thoughts on the Burning Man Orgy Dome being destroyed by a wrathful storm AND religious groups delving into psychedelics - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty May There.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I hope you had just a swell day today. I
mean it. You're special to me, all right.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm sending a little to mister Rogers like Chris merrill
in from O Kelly, KFI AM six forty more stimulating
talk listen anytime on demand and the iHeartRadio app. I
have a bit of an update on my football injury. Gentlemen,
I did. I did use the rice technique yesterday and
I pulled muscle that I had from again my football injury.

(00:38):
And I would say that the pain is beginning to subside.
I still have a slight limp, a bit of a gimp,
as they would say. Stairs are still a challenge.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
But I am. I am mending.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Let's just say I'm on the fifteen day disabled list.
I know many of you are concerned about me and
my football injury, but I am. I'm mom the men,
So thank you for all of your your kind words,
your thoughts, and everyone that wanted to share with me
just how much of a boob you thought I was.

(01:10):
If you missed it, I did have a nasty football injury.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It occurred when I found out that Travis kelcey football player.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Was engaged to Taylor Swift, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Leapt out of my chair and I pranced around my
office screaming, Oh my God. And then I pulled a
muscle in my calf. And then I went to the
rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
And I have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
It is very inconvenient. My partner at work he sent
me a message last night and he said, how's the leg?
And I said, it hurts, But honestly, every time I
think about it, I just start laughing and how stupid
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I brought that one on myself.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And fortunately I am surrounded by so many people who
are so kind as to offer lots of condemnation over
my level of intelligence. That you, dummy, you jumped up
and down because Taylor got engaged and you're hurt. Well,
they're calling it trailer Travis Taylor sup Portmanteau trailer.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yay, are you on the trailer?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I loved the Internet today because I saw a number
of people who were just mercilessly mocking the different reactions
of people who found out that Travis Kelston Taylor Swift
were engaged from women who were imagining what they wanted
it to be like. When they told their boyfriends or
husbands of this relationship. Of course, the significant others were spellbound.

(02:46):
They were Oh my goodness, they were as excited as enthralled.
They would spend the rest of the afternoon speculating as
to what the wedding colors would be, where it might be,
how many people might come to the wedding, and exactly
what that dream day might look like. But then they
were met by the stark reality of saying they got
engaged in the boyfriend or the husband saying okay. I

(03:09):
saw another one where they were going around the office,
and I can't remember. I don't know if this was
I don't think it was barstool Sports, but it was.
It was similar to that where they were just going
around the office and they were breaking the news to everyone.
They were saying, Hey, Gravis Kelsey, Taylor Swift got engaged,
and people were going, okay, good for them. The response
was a bit underwhelming, and I it's what I think
the Internet was created for, was to give us that

(03:31):
sort of that sort of look at the other side
of what we're supposed to believe. Is undeniable news. I
did happen to see that it was a big topic,
There's no doubt about it. I mean, they are as
close to American royalty as we're gonna get. We have
two different, two different gentry classes here in the United States. One,

(03:55):
I would say is the political class where some look
at the politicians is king's, Queen's lords and lepers.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
And then you've also got the the you know, the.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Hollywood class, the celebrities, and I would I would throw
famous sports figures in there as well. That's American royalty, right,
that's who's in our tabloids as opposed to the monarchy
like they have in England. So I saw something unique,
and that is we we have this going on in
media all the time where we'll have conversations and it's

(04:26):
usually with a program director or with a marketer, and
they always want us to make sure that we're we're.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hitting the big topic.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right. How many times have you guys had that meeting
twala you you probably have sat in on those before.
We got to make sure we're hitting the big topic
and not so much.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Okay, okay, if I do, I'm usually disgruntled.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Hard to picture that's fair, that's fair. What I find
is that good programmers have always said, we want to
talk about what the audience is tak talking about, but
we want you to talk about it in your own way, right,
So we want your spin on it be authentic.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
About whatever it is that the audience is talking about.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
For instance, if we were listening earlier, when we opened
the show, we talked about the shooting in Minneapolis, and
rather than discuss we have to change the gun laws
or discuss the shooter was trans and this is a
mental illness thing, we talked about the fecklessness of the
politicians who like to just point fingers at the problems
rather than trying anything and actually working actively against some

(05:33):
of those efforts. So that was our take on the
big topic of the day. Okay, the big topic yesterday.
The thing that was trending online was Travis Kels and
Taylor Swift. So everyone was trying to do they were
trying to get onto it somehow, And the reason they
did this is they wanted to not only engage the
audience that they had, but they wanted to climb up
in the seos. It's the search engine optimization. In other words,

(05:55):
when somebody went on the internet because they heard something
about Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift and they googled it.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
They wanted to make sure that their.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Website popped up, that there was some sort of a
unique take that they could provide that others would not
because they didn't want to miss out on this. Think
of it like hashtagging your social media post with whatever
is trending. So this is trending. They want to make
sure that they are getting eyes in their stuff. They
want SEOS search engine optimization. So I thought it was

(06:25):
interesting to see the different ways that people were trying
to do this.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Let me see.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
New York Times Ralph Lauren look of Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey's engagement photos. They took the fashion angle, at
least one of their authors did. Krispy Kreme didn't take
very long. They jumped all over it. Chrispy Kreme celebrates
Taylor Swift's engagement with free donuts. That was from KTLA
and they posted that yesterday at four point forty one PM,

(06:57):
and I believe the engagement was at about eleven so
we create at least that's when I first heard about it.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Ten thirty eleven o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
So Krispy Kreme's marketing got together instantly and said, how
do we take advantage of this, you know, massive.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
American royalty news story.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
The other thing about this that's really great for brands
is that, for the most part, now you're always gonna
have those You're always gonna have those people and they're obnoxious.
But for the most part, this is one of those
stories that either you don't care about or you're interested
in it, but it's not necessarily divisive. There are going
to be the NFL fans that are mad because Taylor

(07:36):
Swift is interrupting their game for nine second I think
it was twelve seconds a game, is what it averaged.
When they would show Taylor Swift in the in the
press box or in the suites, whatever, they got all
worked up about it. I thought there was one Washington
Post had one I thought was really interesting. As they
were trying to make sure that they jumped on this
fad and got their search engines optimized, they took the

(07:59):
etiquette angle.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now, are we going to.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Talk about prenuptials, Are we going to talk about value?
We're going to talk about power couples? Are we going
to talk about plans for Nope. Instead, let's talk about
how Travis Kelcey proposed wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Taylor Swift and I both got engaged this year, but
apparently both of our fiances got down on the wrong knee.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like who knew this was even a thing. When Travis
Kelcey popped the question, some people on my nitpicked about
what knee he got down on? So I ex proposal experts.
Are there really any rules?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Isn't it funny how people just hate football players who
take a knee God long.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Long ago, like we're talking medieval time, So the tradition
was on the left knee.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They said it was about devotion.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Today it absolutely does not matter.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
True.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, So did you know that when you propose, you're
supposed to get down on your left knee?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Is that how that works? Did you do that?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I'm trying to think, I hold on because I'm sure
I just got down on whatever was natural. Now I'm
trying to think which one would I get down on
if I take a knee.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I know I got on my left.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Did you know that ahead of time?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, I just I.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Think I did get on my left because that's the
one I would not that's the one I naturally get
down on.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I had to try. I had to get up try.
What is that what you did? Robin?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Now?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I got to get down on my knees? Which one?
I was like, wait, hold on, it's just the one
I always use if I take a knee. Oh, I
guess Travis Kelsey got down in his right knee. I
think I'm right need, Mark? Did you want to get
in out of this?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I have no experience in this territory. It's all yours.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Mark. Do you want to practice so you don't screw
it up?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Absolutely not, Mark, Try and knee, Try and knee, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I wonder if there's been a study on that, Like
you've got left handed, right handed people, left footed, right
footed people. I wonder if there's been a study on
like a preference of kneeling. I didn't realize that you
were supposed to go on your left knee for an engagement.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I didn't. I didn't know that was a thing. I
just know you got down on one knee. Waitola, are
you left handed?

Speaker 4 (10:10):
No, I'm I'm right handed. But it's like, but you're
right need, but I'm right kneed as well. Like I
just did right now, I just got there naturally. My
right knee went down first. Yeah, and I don't know.
I'm even trying to think of even when I was
in taekwondo, like which knee I would get down on

(10:30):
the I'm trying to think, like, is there like a
knee purpose wife before getting up quick and kicking.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think I'm right need.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Your right need. You're right handed and right need, and
I'm right handed and left need. I'm I'm ambnistrious. Oh
it was. It was close, but I feel like I missed.
No no, no no, But I know where you're going, and I.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Mean I was we'll work shout that way. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Would you say the two of you spend a good
deal of time down there on your knees.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh more time than my father ever wanted me to.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I sing, Yeah, you always thought I should stand up,
but no, I just dropped in my knees.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Absolutely well, you got to be your own man.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
My favorite search engine optimization was this one, and it
came from uh Awful Announcing.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Here's their headline. This is so great.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
This is how they announced the Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey engagement.
Here it is NFL podcast host announces engagement to recent
guest Outstanding.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Outstanding.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
If you'll recall, she went on Travis Kelcey's podcast to
announce the release of her new album and it broke
records for the most simultaneous podcast listens or whatever it was.
And awful announcing just took that angle. That is so great, nice,
that is my favorite. I'm so stoked about that, that honest,
awful announcing. You win, you win the internet, You win

(11:55):
the Internet.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
There there is like a level of DAF that is
just it's just speaky out of that headline.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
All right, I do I have I have one more
sports story. I want to get to here in just
a few moments. Mark is turning cold and clammy as
I talk about sports. So good nerwors Mark for you.
After nine o'clock we'll talk about Orgi's again. I know
that was very exciting for you earlier this week. We'll
do it again.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Well, who doesn't love that? Honestly?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Honestly, who doesn't.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
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I would say that Bill handle doing hall is what
would the kids say?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Cringe? Is that right?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
No comment?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Opens Hell? I'm sorry, Dave.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I'm afraid I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm sorry, Bill, I'm afraid your impersonation sucks.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay, here's some quick trivia for you. I have an
interview with ker delay once. That's the voice you just
heard who played the astronaut David Bowman. He was late
for the interview and kind of apologetic, and I made him.
I blackmailed him into saying open the pod bay doors,
please Hell into my tape recorder so I could use
it as a voice message.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
He was very kind about it.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
He could have told me to go straight to hell. Now.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's I would not have asked him to open the
pod bay doors, but I would have probably asked him
something and tried to make it clever, like open hell.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Leave a message at the beep, friend, That's that's what
I got. That's what you got, Yeah, leave a message
at the tone one of.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
My all time favorite movies. You've seen this, right, I'd
like to call you back, friend. I'm afraid I can't
do that.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
I'm sorry, Dave.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Very good, Very good,
my friend, very good.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Uh, Mark, I promised you I talk about orgies. Will
do that after your your nine thirty news. Here, Dodger
Stadium is now America's most instant grammable Major League Baseball stadium.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
How do we know that?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Because you took more photos and tagged it on Instagram than.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Any other stadium. I guess. Flash Picks.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Says that Dodger Stadium has been named the most memorable
Instagramable Major League Baseball stadium in America, measured by photos
per seat.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
How do they guarder that?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Basically, they take the number of seats and then the
number of people that have tagged the stadium in the
divine and they go, look, there it is. You got
the fifty six thousand seats. You've got whatever. Fifty six
thousand is times the eighty one games times twelve point
three to two, and that's how many photos have been

(14:47):
tagged with Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So they go, there it is. It's the best.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they said also that it offers the best backdrop too. Yeah,
in large part because the location.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, it does. It's pretty great.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I've been to a few different baseball stadiums just you know,
just traveling around and there's a lot of them that
are really run down. They look like they did when
baseball first started.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Hey, I grew up. I grew up and my dad
used to take me once a year.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
We would we would make this four or five hour
drive to Detroit and we would go to Tiger Stadium,
the original not the original it was Tiger Stadium, but
had been there for you know, since they replaced the
one I think it was.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Neville Field or something in the twenties.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And it was the same design as the old Yankee Stadium,
you know, giant posts that would block your view and
right and left field and that looking back on it now,
that was a dump. And I just remember that as
a traditionalist. I was like, I was like, oh, that's
the stadium I went to when I was a kid.
I don't want to see it get replaced. And then
they built Comerica and I went, Okay, this is great,

(15:50):
it is beautiful. I never got to the Murph in
San Diego, which became CaAl Combs. Now, well they tore
it down right, and then they rebuilt the the College
Stadium there. I never got to that, but I've been
to Petco. Petco is such a beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous but
you don't have the view from the seats like you do,

(16:11):
you know, which.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Is surprising because it's where it's positioned. I would have
thought they would have done more to show off downtown
San Diego at least maybe angle it so you could
see the water some.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Of the water right there.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
The only thing I can figure out, and it doesn't
really make a lot of sund I don't think it
makes a look of difference, is that when the marine
layer comes in at night, maybe they wanted they wanted
the you know, the stadium kind of blocks some of that.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
From coming in, but doesn't do anything that marine layer
comes in. It's in. It's in. Yeah, it's in.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
You can't just stop fog from going over a you know,
a ten acre area.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's not gonna happen. So uh.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Anyway, that's a beautiful stadium, but I would agree that
the view is better here.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
And then trying to think there there are a few
others that did a nice job. Well Oakland, you know,
Oakland lost the A's. The proposals that they had for
their new stadium would have been really nice yeah, really nice.
I saw those proposals. I was doing some work in
San Francisco and I saw the proposals for what they're

(17:12):
gonna do in Oakland, and it would have been absolutely gorgeous,
but they couldn't get it done.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
And was so curious as to why Angel Stadium wasn't better.
I thought, with all the money out there, it's like so,
you know, a Hopskin being a jump to Disneyland parking lot. Yeah,
I was like, there should be more. And when I went,
I was like, this is very much like this is
just real. Okay, it's just an average baseball stadium, right,

(17:38):
basic baseball.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's not bad, but it's no.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, it's clean. You know, you don't think the
food is dirty there, but you just you I just
expected more. I agree, I agree with you on that one. Yeah,
that's a great point.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Anyway. Congratulations to the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You got the You have a highly instagrammable field, which
comes as a surprise to nobody that's been there. But
I guess it's nice to get some validation. Okay, Mark,
you're gonna want to move up for this one. Orgy
Dome is next.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
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Speaker 3 (18:15):
Hither Chris Merrily in for mo Kelly k if I
AM six forty more stimulating talk. I got a note
from a listener here, gentlemen, that did not make me
go home and cry.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
So thank you. Please share.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh, they were just talking about, you know, yesterday we
were discussing the Lion Safari and Irvine and how it
lasted a short amount of time and it started out well.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And they didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And they said that they had pictures on there on
their Instagram if I wanted to see them on their story.
And I thought that was pretty cool. So I'll go
see if I can check out that. Oh yeah, look
at the sure enough, there's like a deer in an
antelope roaming on that.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's pretty cool. Actually, I love this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
For some reason, the Lion Country Safari has been in
the news lately. It was an open field in south
Orange County between where Lake Forest and Bake Parkway are now.
It was to drive through Safari Park. This is from
I never wanted to be painted on Instagram. I only
vaguely remember it. I was five or six when it closed.
All these are from before I was born. Top left,
you can see personal cars and then her grandmother's standing

(19:32):
next to an elephant.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That is so cool. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
They've got at a little pond oasis where all of
the animals started to gather like they were on the Serengetti.
I of wish I had seen that, although considering there
were a number of lion, elephant and chimpanzee attacks, probably
just as well that we have waited it. It went
downhill fast. It's a that's a tragedy of it. Yeah,

(20:01):
the road to hell is paid with good intentions. Speaking
of which, imagine you go to Burning Man and you
have every intention of taking in all there is, the sites,
the sounds, the festival, the music, the smell.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Of the orgy dome tent. Hmm.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Indeed, we were discussing this, I believe on Monday, if
I'm not mistaken a little. Did we know as we
brought it up, because I was just amazed that they
had an orgy dome.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I thought it was really interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
And they talked about how there are certain rules to
going into the orgy dome and you can't come alone.
You have to have somebody with you, and you don't
have to participate in certain things. You can go to
one area of the tent, but you certainly have to
have purel all kinds of different things.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We learned. Little did I know that as we were
discussing it, orgy Dome.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Was no more.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
What Yeah, because evidently on Sunday they had those high winds.
We were talking about the storm that rolled through black
Rock City and Nevada.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I guess that those high.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Winds wiped out the orgy Dome, which I have to
tell you this is where I'm really disappointed in journalism nowadays,
because while we had a number of journalists, and I'm
guessing it's just that they never had the training. You know,
we've got people that don't They don't get to cut
their teeth in the small markets anymore. So they're just
immediately thrown into major newspapers, radio stations and television stations,
well really getting the experience and how to do great journalism.

(21:23):
And so they're covering the storm, but they leave out
the most important detail that the orgy Dome was wiped out,
And so we didn't really find out about it until
it was announced on the GRAM by the organizers, which
came after we had already prepped the show on Monday,
so they said, Unfortunately, the winds yesterday undid all the
labor that wrecked our structure. We are still here and

(21:43):
thankfully safe. We hope a gift of the apply us
some workshops and we'll keep you updated.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
When you're covering the Orgy Dome as a journalist, you
want to ask the most probing questions, the most penetrating questions.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Indeed, Yeah, and you don't stop until you get what
you came for.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
No, you don't, no, not until you're satisfied.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I had no idea that this existed.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Uh. Which is they say, one of the most infamous
fixtures run by a sex positive collective. It offers festival
goers a climate controlled space outfitted Oh excuse me, I
read that wrong. It's all of a sudden. It sounded
like I was trying to get Hell to open the
pod bay doors, right.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Open the back doors. That's not funny.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get a talking to.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
No, I I was I read it wrong. It offers
festival goers a climate controlled space.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
No, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
No not I no, not a space, climate controlled space
outfitted with mattresses, couches, and pillows, where participants are expected
to enter with a consenting partner. Organized describe the dove
as a place to promote education about consent and the
importance of its practice beyond intimate space. Oh, I see,
So we're going to practice what consent looks like and

(23:04):
your reward will be randosich.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, So last year the attraction reportedly welcome.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
How many people do you think went into the orgy
dome last year?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I think almost half of the people in attendance. I
don't know how many go to Burning Man. It's it's
hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Okay, no way its people go into the orgy Dome.
I don't know how big this dome is.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Before I know people that go, and they go specifically
for the orgy dome. But also I've been told you
don't have to be in the dome to experience this.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You can have a tent and have your own you can.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, but you will not have organizers who are promoting
education about consent and the importance of its practice beyond
intimate space.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Instead, you'll just have a degenerate orgy. Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Evidently, the official orgy Dome, much to the chagrin of
all of Twalla's friends, witch, we may have to have
a talk. Only five thousand visitors last year, which I
thought was an astonishingly high number. But I guess your
friends are like no everyone.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean, look, COVID be damned, they're into it.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Mask up, okays, glove up. Yeah, they had workshops. Hang on,
let me see if I can zoom in on this picture.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I'm glad we're not live on video tonight.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, no, that's that's smart. What I'm trying to read.
They've got like a bulletin board here the law. Trying
to see what else is in the workshops. Oh, like
the do's and don'ts. Maybe, yeah, well I think they
actually are holding like classes. Oh they've got a group massages.
Well we know how that ends, appink.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Sex for amateurs. All right, Well, if you're at burning man,
I'm guessing you're not.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Oh they have a workshop called Choke Me Daddy about No, hey,
they do, and it is about safety and understanding safe
words and how to choke but not asphyxiate someone. How
to do it, but give them that that just near
I forget. There's a word there you go, how to

(25:19):
properly bring someone to that point. Yes, I'm not necessarily experienced.
I just know.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, the erotic is when you're by yourself, by yourself, right,
this is the David Carroding style.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
But there's there's one where someone is supposed to be
choking and it's supposed to be fun, but you have
to know how to do it to properly. I don't
want them to die proper amount of true.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I mean, nobody wants a weak choker, but nobody really
wants to get hurt either.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And that's kind of a Goldilocks zone, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Finase is the key. There's another one called hookups with integrity.
Mm hmmm hm, that's what's that mean? I don't know
because it feels like, hey, moronic to me.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, it's not. It's not. It's not.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
You want to defend that. I do because I believe
that you're not supposed to just hook up and then
treat the person kind of like a leave a dollar
on the night's dad. You're supposed to kind of wake up, Hey,
how you doing, How are you good?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm good?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
You know, you talk afterwards. It's it's polite conversations. Not
that was good and you're out and you're just like, no,
guess what I just did?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
No? You know you have to you're talking about like
respectful hookups.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yes, And I think it was like integrity, like I'm
not compromising who I am as a person, but I
am having sex with randoms.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
And okay yeah, but but you do it respectfully. You
don't treat each other like pieces of hookup you. Hey,
how you doing? You know you talk about things first,
I have.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
More than a meat bag? Honey, do you have to?
It's part of what hookup? That's a that's prostitution. And
is this time that tipping talk we had earlier? Yes?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Okay, yeah, they do turn around the screen. Yeah that's awkward.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, that they look at you when they say putting
your card in the slot, and you're confused.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I'm looking at the picture on Instagram and it's got
a guy standing in front of the sign that says orgy. No,
there's a sign that's been posted on it says from
this point in line, the wait is at least thirty minutes.
And I'm not going to take the low road here
and say thirty minutes. Who lasts that long? But isn't
it freaking hot? Noir.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Then it can also be extremely cold, like really freezing
cold because you are in the desert, so the extreme
temperatures of the day get even worse at night.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah yeah, okay, Well what makes sense?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
So you need that warmth, the bodily warmth.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, you're you're standing in line.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
You're literally out in the dirt, like there's no hotels,
there's doing nothing. You're just in the middle of nowhere
with porta potties and little temporary you know, curtain showers
all over the place. Yeah, wasp basins.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I would not want to stand in line for thirty
minutes before going into a smelly orgy tint. I mean,
I'm not really orgy curious to start with, but I
definitely am not. Look, I won't stand in line for
a roller coaster, definitely stand in line for that ride.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Different kind of ride. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is there anything worse than psycho churches? No?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
But what if the church's psycho is fun? All right,
all right, I'm curious. Now I'm psycho church curious. We'll
tell you why.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Next.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
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Speaker 2 (28:38):
Six forty.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Religious groups are leading the charge in psychedelics.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I would not have guessed this. Now.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I know that there have been therapists and medical professionals
that have been pushing for certain treatments using psychedelics, like
PTSD or things like that, right, but now we're finding
where they're calling a holy trinity of supporters scientists, politician
and clergy.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
You may have heard that in.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Texas they okayed some psychedelics for therapeutic use, in large
part because former Governor Rick Perry tried some in Tijuana
and loved it, and so all of a sudden he's
been a big advocate for psychedelic use. What's that old adage,
don't knock it till you try it. But now it

(29:24):
is interesting to find out that a number of religious practitioners,
from Episcopal ministers to Catholic priests, rabbis, and zen monks
twenty four to the twenty nine participants made the case
that psychedelics can lead to profound spiritual experiences.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Open your mind, man.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Several clergy who participated in the NYU John Hopkins study
went on to become vocal advocates of psychedelics. Similar to
Rick Perry, you found himself sleeping on a dirty mattress
outsied of a god knows where in Tijuana, but he
enjoyed his ride. They do say, however, that in their study,
the semple size was small and heavily composed of Christian
religious leaders. The findings, they also note, are in fact impactful,

(30:07):
so ninety six percent of study participants describing the use
of psychedelics as one of the top five most spiritually
significant experiences of their lives.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
They called it a chairlift to God.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I hate to kind of state the obvious, but duh,
I mean, isn't that The whole idea is that you
sort of open your mind and you have this outer worldly,
out of body type experience.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
To me, this is almost like churches doing what gen
Z does with words.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's almost like, ya, hey, we get it. That's what
it does.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, except the churches have always been very conservative and
drug use has always been considered a very liberal thing.
And so now you've got churches going, hey, wait a minute,
maybe there's some use in this stuff. Maybe this whole
I dropped accid and I talked to God thing isn't
as far off is what we thought.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Or maybe now they don't have to do it in
private and then get on a pulpit and bastardize it.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
There you go, that might be the case, you know.
Twally make a good point. Yeah, it's what happens behind
closed doors versus what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, so maybe now the congregations more willing to hear
the message than what they have been in the past.
Now that's a good point. This is why you are
the best producer in the business. I absolutely love it.
Ta Walla sharp every night making this show absolute fire.
Mark Ronner bringing us the news that we have to
know and the news that we want to know. That's

(31:34):
what makes them special. He combines the two and Robin.
She makes sure the trains run on time, and we
couldn't do it without her.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You guys are the best.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I look forward to catching up with all of you
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