January 17, 2025 • 42 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Special Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with a look at the latest updates on the SoCal wildfires from the investigations into the origins of the Palisades/Eaton fires and the hard stance being taken against scammers, looters and price gougers taking advantage of wildfire victims; to FEMA’s stance on fire victims setting up GoFundMe campaigns and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Chris merrill In from mo Kelly Listened Anytime on Demand
of the iHeartRadio app. I think that's all the stuff
I'm supposed to say, right, We got it all out.
Good to be with you. Thank you so much for
allowing me into your evening. I keep watching as we
all do, all the different devastation. I didn't, and I
was listening to Dean Sharpairs. He was talking with Tim,
and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that there were
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emberproof events. I know it's gonna sound a little bit
ignorant in here, but I didn't realize that there were
emberproof vents.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I just looked it up. Home depots sells those things.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They're not all that expensive, and I know that obviously,
if you want a contractor to install, it's gonna cost
you a little bit more of it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man, I guess I didn't even think about the herd
immunity value of the ember proof vents. So if I
was listening correctly, and I think I was, Tim was
talking about if you don't have houses catching on fire,
then basically you're limiting the amount of fuel that can
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burn in one of these massive fires, right right, And
if that's the case, and you can limit these fires,
then for every house that has the ember proof vents
on that are able to, you know, to remove fuel
as a possibility, all of a sudden, every house helps
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the next house, and the whole neighborhood kind of works together.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
As a fire block.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Basically. That is fascinating. I thought that was really interesting stuff.
Good content, man, good content. Meanwhile, look, we've all been
thinking it, and that is every time there's a massive fire,
and I'm not just talking about residential areas. Every time
we have a big fire and it wipes out the vegetation,
that means that we don't have the roots holding things on,
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and then we worry about what happens when rain comes.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We know what happens, right. We know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Some places that the fire itself are now running into
some other issues with the ground already beginning to shift.
ABC seven was talking about that because there's a house
in I believe it's one of the Palisa's houses that
survived the fire didn't survive after This is.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
One of the stranger situations where a home that wasn't
burned to the ground, is literally broken in half. And
again Lacity Fire with their damage assessment teams are still
trying to figure out what happened here.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
What caused that is still under investigation by our damage
assessment team.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
House just split in half, you know, like when the
Titanic started going down and then it's cracked in half.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's what this house did.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now, if you look right above it, you're going to
see a lot of smoldering debris and things that have burned.
It's apparent the infrastructures absolutely compromised. Some smell of gas
up there.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, well, smell of gas in here. Okay, stop.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The water is still flowing from the area. The foundation
is comp there's no power. It's damaged so significantly that
it has been red tag deeming it unsafe for people
to go in that area.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It split like a KitKat bar right in the middle,
just crack of course, it's unsafe to go in there.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So what happens when we get a significant amount of rain?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I think we all know the answer.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
If there's a heavy rain, we're told, then there's the
thread of debris flow and MUDs lines. Yeah, because of
all of the vegetation that's been burned away. LA City
and County Fire is preparing for that as well. And
again for those of you who want to come back
in here, as you heard Sheriff Louona on our ear
our last.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Segment, you didn't hear that because radio, you need to
be patient.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The earliest maybe a week from now, but experience tells
us it'll probably be longer than that. And again still
under investigation, what caused this house to literally be snapped
in half.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
When he says next week or whatever, to try to
get in, probably longer than that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's just to get in to see if you have
a house standing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's not to get in, and you know, bring the
wife and kids and dog and cat and everything you
grabbed back. That's just to see if you have anything left.
There are some areas where people will not be returning
for a year and a half, two years. It blows
my mind. And here's the sad truth with every natural disaster.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And look, we do it too. You gotta admit we
do it too.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
A hurricane hits in Houston, there's flooding in Asheville, North Carolina,
we go, oh my goodness, that's terrible. And then all right, well,
the rains have stopped. Okay, well they're cleaning it up,
and then cameras leave. Ashville, North Carolina is not to
what it was back in October. It's still an absolute
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mess and will be for a very long time, as
will so many of our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Just just a wreck. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
What what I think is somewhat infuriating is with the
finger pointing that goes on everybody's well, why didn't the
news rake the forest? Which silly argument, and why didn't
so and so do this? And why didn't so and
so do that? And I have this conversation with my
father and I go round and round on these things.
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I talk about some of the devastating fires, and we
talked extensively back when the campfire happened and wiped out
the town of Paradise, and I said it was you know,
it was power lines and that was a bad deal
and horrible situation. And he says, well, you know, I
always love when I get Dad explained, you know, fires
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are normal, they're very good for the they're very good
for the forest.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The forest need the fires.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And I said, I would agree with you, certainly, not
at the frequency that we're seeing certainly not at the
magnitude that we're seeing, and Pop says, well, I don't
know about that. You realize that if you take a
look at at the wildfires, what causes the wildfires, it's
something like ninety plus percent are human caused, maybe even
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more than ninety percent human caused, which means that we
it's not nature's natural cleansing of an area. This is
us contributing to it, which is why so many people
are wondering what started these fires. It wasn't lightning, it
wasn't a volcanic eruption that started the fires. I think
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it's safe to say it is human cause in some way,
shape or form. As I mentioned the campfire, that was
PG and E power lines. And now you've probably heard
about what's going on with the Eaton fire, and I
know that the oh I think it was. The CEO
of Edison was talking with ABC seven and they asked
him about was it your power lines? And then he
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got he sort of started ceo'splaining things, and I.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Said, Dan with Pedro Pizarro, President and CEO Edison International,
the parent company of Southern California Edison, we covered a
wide range of topics, but I want to focus on
concern and questions over the pie.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Skip ahead here. What does he say?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
There were two sets of lines along Eaton Canyon. On
the west side, there's a distribution, a lower voltage line.
Distribution are the lines that typically go into homes. That
line had covered conductor, but it had already been deenergized.
Power had been turned off something like two hours before
the report had started the fire.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Now, when he says lower voltage, what he's talking about
is what's coming into your house is going into your service,
all right, So you're talking two twenty that's going into
your service. Maybe maybe a little bit more than that,
all right, You're That's when he says low volt He's
not talking about speaker wire, all right, So let's not
He says low voltage to power companies is different than
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low voltage to you and I.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
We also have transmission lines on the east side of
the canyon, and those were energized. But the criteria for
when we shut off also depends on the type of line.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Bedrim Pizzato is referring to the power line in this
photo taken during very early stages of the Eaton fire.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You can't see it because TV but it's a photo.
You've probably seen it. It's a photo. It's a house,
and you can see the fire behind the house, up
the hill and under the power.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Lines along the Eaton Canyon hiking trail. He explains why
those lines were still energized.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And think about it this way.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
The smaller lines distribution lines, they're lighter. If you have
strong winds, you know, they can get buffeted around more
than a heavy, more robust transmission tower transmission line, and
so we typically have higher wind speeds that are the
thresholds for transmission versus distribution. So that's why those transmission
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lines were not the energized.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So okay, how'd that work out?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, there's going to be an investigation, right, gonna
be an investigation. We'll see. But look, if you're like me,
I'm not breaking anything here. This is not any sort
of like shocking information. When the fire started breaking out,
we all wanted, first of all, we want everybody to
be safe, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But what caused this?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And in my head, I thought I'd put fifty bucks
on at least one of these things was caused by power.
At least one of them was caused by the power
lines at least one, and we don't know about the
Palisades fire. Sounds like maybe that one is a different cause.
But also it's because of the bipedal wildlife, meaning you
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and me humans in the area.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
What did we do wrong in that? I'm gonna tell
you about that here in just Semitic.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
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Speaker 9 (09:46):
It is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It is an honor being with you.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I am as frustrated as most anybody who is watching
from afar, and by a far, I mean I don't
have any property that is in immediate danger anything like that,
so and I think most most Southern Californians don't. But boy,
we are watching very carefully because we don't know when
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the next spark might happen. We don't know when the
next the next fire might pop up, or who it
might threaten. So and we've already seen other smaller fires
that fortunately the firefighters have done a magnificent job of
tamping those out very quickly. We've seen some crazy people
with flamethrowers deciding they're going to go out and see
if they can start fires. I don't know what's wrong
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with people, but the majority of us are worried, not necessarily.
I mean, we're worried about the wins, obviously, but we're
not necessarily worried about nature starting a fire. We're worried
about nature fanning any fire that might be there. And
it sounds like when it comes to the Palisades fire,
it is all on humans. This is human caused. Now,
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maybe not the actual Palisades fire, but the fire itself
may have come from a previous fire that was human cause.
For the third day in a row, investigators with the
eighth this is a couple days old, but is good audio.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Tf's National Response team zeroed in on mountainous terrain behind
homes in the Palisades Highland section of Pacific Palisades. This
is where they believe the January seventh fire that's burned
over twenty three thousand acres started right but how did
it start? But investigators wouldn't confirm whether that fire was
a reignition of an eight acre brush fire.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Six days prior.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There you go, it's a reignition they're not confirming it,
and that's fine. They shouldn't whatever they're doing their investigation.
I get it, but it sure seems like a pretty
reasonable avenue to explore. It is deserving of great scrutiny
and investigation.
Speaker 11 (11:43):
We've heard those reports, but I cannot get into a
specifics of what we have found or located up there
as far as a way of evidence.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, was there any lightning in the area on January seventh, No,
there wasn't. Okay, any other acts of God that might
have started the fire, No, all right, and it probably
started in that burnscar area from the previous brush fire.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Reignitions can happen a week, maybe even two weeks after
a previous fire.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We know that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right, So this seems like got pretty plausible, if
not probable, the cause of the Palisades fire a reignition
from a previous fire.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
But we are looking into everything. We will leave no
stone unturned.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
The ETF tells Eyewitness Snooze they've received over one hundred
and fifty leads and tips from residents so far, and
that this investigation will take time because of the size
and scope of the fire. Obviously, this side by side
satellite image. You can't see it because radio shows the
burn scar from that January first fire and the beginning
of the Massive Palisades fire on January seventh.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh, they just happen to be the same place.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
It's near the Skull Rock trailhead. Residents say the smoke
from both fires was in the same location.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
They're experts in this field.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
We have certified fire and instigators up there, certified explosives
to experts up there.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
By the way, What a cool job. I know there's
got to be a school for certified fire investigators. But
where was my high school guidance conselor in that one,
because I definitely would have explored that avenue.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That just seems like a cool job.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Accelerate detection canines with us trying to narrow down the
origin of the fire. Yes, they are up in the
Skull Rock area working, but that's where the evidence has
led us right now.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You mean back to where the burn scar was from
the brush fire.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
Yeah, and then the other half of the team are
going door to door asking for that video surveillance or
what people saw or what they didn't see in certain
dates of time.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Eric Robertson was one of the first nine one one
callers on January seventh, out taking a walk with his
wife when he spotted flames. Robertson says he didn't see
anyone in the area when the fire started. Residents heard
that the New Year's Day fire may have been caused
by fireworks.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
And I asked the ATF whether they've found any fragments
of fireworks. All I was told is that their team
is trained in fireworks and that is one of the
many theories they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Live in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Josh Haskell, ABC seven eyewitness.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
ND, all right, thank you very much. So fireworks on
New Year's what that's crazy? Who would have thought such
a thing. I can't stand fireworks. Just ban them all
over the place. Ban them on the fourth of July
everywhere fireworks are so there's no upside to fireworks. My
wife hates when I start talking about fireworks because she
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loves the fireworks. I can't stand fireworks. Do you do
you have like a lot of people around your house
that do it?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, all illegal, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, but
they love they just love the fireworks.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean it sounds like it sounds like you're in
a war zone.
Speaker 12 (14:43):
No, yeah, that's not even an exaggeration because me and
Moe kind of live in close proximity to each other. Yeah,
and in the area that we live, it's like the
one like whatever square mile you want to call it.
Oh my god, it's still legal. And you know when
he does his show from chatte chatte mo, you know
you can hear it. It sounds like it's out like
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behind his window were gym, but it's crazy and it's like, no,
that was that was blocked down.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Look, I was doing shows and I had closed the
window and I thought, oh, people are going to hear this.
I mean, it sounds like cannon's going off outside my window.
I can't stand it. My wife gets so angry with
me because I just don't. I'm not a fireworks guy
in general. What is the upside? Oh, but it's it's
we love to blow things up in America. We have
we have veterans that have PTSD where it's it's difficult.
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How many households don't have pets nowadays. I mean we're
at the point where I what is it. It's got
to be more than fifty percent of households have pets.
Pets don't do well with boom booms, right, not at all?
So what is what is the advantage?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what I like?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I like the new drone shows. I like drone shows
a lot. Took the words right in my mouth. They're great.
Those are cool.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, I love that they're great. In the meantime, somebody
wanted to set off fireworks. Sounds like fireworks or maybe
a campfire. Could have been a campfire too. I don't
want to just assume it's fireworks. But look again, that
fire started New Year's Day or New Year's Eve, late
New Year's Eve, I mean firework time. And now we've
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got thirteen thousand structures that are burned. Good job, guys,
I mean this is us. We are going to be
the cause of our own destruction on this planet. There's
no doubt about it. I mean, whether it's slowly we
try to destroy our planet or rapidly we try to
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destroy the planet. We're very bad at taking care of
where we live. We're very bad at it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I am just on a grumpy little roll tonight, don't I.
But I always want to offer solutions, solution bat all fireworks,
stop the sale of fireworks. If you've got to get
the president elect on board, then you just say, fireworks
are there. It's a Chinese invention and we don't need it,
that's what you say. You just bring his brand, his
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xenophobia into it. Just fireworks is the Chinese. They're trying
to destroy America by inventing fireworks seven hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Whatever fan the fireworks fill done on its head, flip it. Yeah,
just be done with it. Just be done with it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Meanwhile, if we aren't destroying the world in which we live,
we're trying to destroy one another. But fortunately we have
elected officials to protect us. I don't feel safe about that.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 1 (17:42):
Okay, uh fires, where were we? Oh?
Speaker 13 (17:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Here? It is horrible, horrible people. So look, as a species,
we're terrible. Right. We do not take care of the
planet that we have. We just assume it'll be around.
We very much take it for granted. Whether that's because
we set off fireworks during a dry, windy season, or
we just decide smog is fun. Whatever it is, we're
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terrible stewards of the environment. But that said, maybe the
worst are the people who take advantage during a disaster.
Scam artists taking advantage of people in the area that
are losing homes. And I don't know if you're getting
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phone calls, I don't know. I don't know if you're
getting bid well, we're here to help, you can reach out.
I mean, these are as bad as the whole your
car could be at the end of a warranty, blah
blah blah. Those people right, your cars extended warranty. I
hate those scammers. It's even worse when scammers prey on
people in an emotional state, and of course they do
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because we're more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Right, It's kind of like, uh.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like crooked funeral homes. Right, you know, I know that
your I know that your beloved mother had a plan.
But now that she's gone, don't you think she'd want
this upgraded casket. Don't you think she'd want the extra
plush pillows. Don't you think she would want this?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Would she?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't know, Because she's dead. I don't think she's
gonna notice how soft the pillow is. But you know
how they just like the crooked people, just they prey
on people when they're the most vulnerable. So now we've
got Laeda. Nathan Hoffman says, oh no, he's going. After
he talked with the people at ABC seven. He was
talking about the looters and the scammers and all these
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tool bags. It's the nicest thing I can say.
Speaker 14 (19:50):
You know, the level of criminal activity is quite candidly despicable.
We have firefighters literally putting their lives on the line
every day to save lives in our homes. We have
law enforcement work in twenty four hours a day to
keep us safe and secure. I'm one of over two
hundred thousand people who've cooperated in this evacuation. People like
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my sister have lost their home in Pacific Palisades, and
thousands of people.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
All right, hakmen, we don't need to be tragedy poaching
this one have lost their homes.
Speaker 14 (20:20):
Yet there are criminals who look at this as an
opportunity to exploit the most vulnerable people in their lowest moments.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I kind of said that I agree with him.
Speaker 14 (20:29):
We have set an unmistakably clear message at these people.
It's a question of just when, not if, they will
get arrested, they will get prosecuted, and they will be
punished to the full extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I just I don't believe not. Look, he's new, maybe
he will. I don't think that you're going to get everybody.
You're not going to convince me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh, it's not a question of if, but when. Nah,
I don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't believe that you are going to be able
to arrest and secure prosecutions that everyone that's trying to
pull a scam.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It just doesn't work that way. Yes, I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 14 (21:07):
Yesterday we announced the charges on nine looters and one
person who did an arson and Azusa.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So that's ten people. That's it.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Only ten people have tried scamming anything or looting. Well, good,
you've got them.
Speaker 15 (21:19):
All.
Speaker 14 (21:19):
These looters were involved in the Pacific Palisades and they
eaten fires. They basically were people who went into these
these residences when the residents whereas residences were evacuated, Yet
the police were able to.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Catch the good are you telling me those are the
only ones?
Speaker 14 (21:36):
Two of these people are looking at life in prison
because there are three strikers. Another person's looking at twenty
two years in prison as a second striker, the arsonist
is looking up into nine years in prison, and the
other people who went in illegally into these houses they're
looking at six years in prison.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The looters are horrible. I don't know, like the scammers
are worse. No, who's work on a scale of horrible criminals?
Are the looters worse than the scammers?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Ronner? Would you rather be looted or scammed?
Speaker 13 (22:12):
I think you need to factor in the landlords who
are jacking up rents as well. We haven't seen a
ton of dodge at that, but I've seen lots of
reports in assorted mainly independent news, about landlords doubling rents
and doubling house prices.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
All that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's just supplying demand, Mark, It's look, the supply has
gone down, demand has.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Gone up, well, just supplying demand. It's like when the
gas prices go way up.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's not profit taking by the oil company, that's just
supplying demand.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Well.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
Oddly enough, the state of California has a law against
that kind of crap, and some people don't seem to care. Wait,
you need to tell me when someone is trying to
charge damn near two thousand dollars for a single, that's
price gouging. That's what's happening in Pasadena right now than
soft spaces. Oh that can't be true.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh come on listen.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If you came from the Bay Area, that would be
a deal, that would be a real deal. This isn't guy,
It's just supply and demand. How could that be any different?
People are living paycheck at paycheck anyway. Imagine if you're
somebody who's living paycheck to paycheck and then you are
you're evacuate. You know that the fire ripped through at
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least near your neighborhood. You don't know if your house
is still standing. You can't get back in. You don't
have any idea, and now you've got to find someplace
to stay, and you're supposed to come up with the
extra money.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's not there. It's not there.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Attorney General or Ra Bunta saying that he's gonna drop
the hammer on people who attempt to take advantage of victims.
So he was talking with Katy La and he said
he's gonna put more resources toward investigating criminal complaint. It's
made in the area of the wildfires. He said, we're
not bluffing. If you think we're bluffing and you call it,
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you will regret it. So as of Wednesday, as many
as fifty looting arrests have been made, so that's even
more than what the DA was saying. The concern is
so large that some residents are defying evacuation orders and
arming themselves to protect their homes from looters. This is
something I heard John Coobal talking about too, where he
says he was talking about do I evacuate or do
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I stay? You know, I'm in an area where you
know we're in the warning area, and do I take off?
But if I leave, my house might get looted. Do
I stay and try to protect my house or do
I take off because the looters don't they don't follow
the evacuation orders. I feel like maybe this is something
Look look, if you're an assembly person, maybe take a
(24:51):
look at this. Is there an enhancement for people who
commit crimes during states of emergency?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Like there should be an enhancement in the same way.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That we have, uh like racial enhancements. If there's a
prejudicial crime, you know, what's a hate crime?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Excuse me? A hate crime.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
We've got hate crime enhancements. Can we do something that's
specific to uh when we're in a state of emergency
people committing crimes. I feel like there ought to be
an enhancement on that, and then put the word out
there's going to be an enhancement.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And scammers are just the worst. Scammers prey on your emotions.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Looters, at least, it's just the old fashioned just stealing
from people, which again, put an enhancement on that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Give them more time. No, no, no, no, not more time. Looters.
Speaker 16 (25:40):
Looters need some something a little harsh or a little
more old school life.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 16 (25:45):
But when you are caught looting, they just bring a
chopping block up to the spot where they catch you
and they remove your hands and cameras. How about we
just remove their tongues upon catching them. When they're caught,
you remove their tongues right then and there no prosecution.
You've scammed someone, You've you've conned someone out of their
their finances. In this time, let's remove those tongues.
Speaker 13 (26:07):
You might enjoy life in the theocratic Republic of Iran
far more than here.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, listen, at time like this, hands must go, hands
must go. Cut them up.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
No justice there, Uh huh, that's right. We don't even
worry about due process anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
We just right.
Speaker 16 (26:26):
Look, I promise you, if you're caught coming out of
one of these houses with stuff in your hands that's
not yours, they need to just have the chopping block
with the blood still on it, right there. Have the
person come around with the rusty machete, nothing sharp, to
make it easy on you and chop your hands off,
all right.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
And making examples out of them, because now that everyone
has cameras to film that and broadcast it all the rock.
Speaker 16 (26:48):
Catch a live you want, you want to go live,
Let's go insta, Let's let's do it for the gram wow,
all right, or the TikTok or the TikTok. Well until Sunday,
talk until someday.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Listen to you. So I mean, is this like I
have a dull machete?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, super sharp machetes aren't real effective and cutting
tall grass or anything like that, you actually have to
have a little bit of an adult dullness on them.
I mean, yeah, is that rusty? Rusty too? Well, forget
about all these half measures. Just get a wood chipper
and be done with it. Well, that's I'm a full fargo.
I'm okay with that. Yeah, the full fargo.
Speaker 13 (27:26):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Would this be like a special task force that would
go door to door yeah, with a Is it a
flatbed truck that has the hand chopping yes mechanism on it?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well?
Speaker 13 (27:39):
Would they have the wood shippers on wheels? So it's
very convenient? Oh yeah, put them either way.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Either way.
Speaker 16 (27:44):
I just want to make sure the blood trails behind
the wood chipper truck. It needs to send a message.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And then we amplify their screams too, so that people
who aren't in you know, don't don't have sight lines
can hear what's going on.
Speaker 16 (27:56):
Oh yeah, you mic them, You mike them so as
they're going through you here their terror.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Okay, all right, Yeah, this is why I freaking love
you guys, nutbags.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I need some counseling. I love this, I love it.
I love it. Let that raw emotion flow, yes, let
the evil out to walla, Yes, let it flow through you.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Meanwhile, some people are taking other measures after losing their places.
While Twala is dulling his machete and pouring salt water
on it, just to make sure it's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Others have taken the legal route. We'll tell you what
they're doing. That's next.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
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people are taking their frustrations out elsewhere, like on the DWP.
And you knew this wasn't gonna take very long before
the lawsuit started dropping. DWP. People said, we can't be
running out of water during a fire. That is no bueno.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Whose fault is this? Somebody has to pay.
Speaker 23 (33:19):
Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and Southernlifornia Edison
are the ones named in that lawsuit. Now we've seen
it all with heartbreaking images of houses reduced to rubble
like that one out here on Sunset. The people who
are filing these claims say that this shouldn't have happened
and they want someone to take accountability. Now, this latest
(33:40):
lawsuit has been filed against the LADWP by a group
of survivors of the Palisades Fire who claim the utilities
inadequate water delivery hampered firefighters in battling the deadly fire,
which has destroyed thousands of structures and killed at least
nine people. Now, a key part of the lawsuit is
that Santa Ynez Reservoir, one hundred and seventy million gallon
(34:02):
water storage complex that had been empty for nearly a year.
Here you see that reservoir as the Palisades Fire roared
around it. The LAEDWP put out a statement before this
filing saying, in part, the utility quote was required to
take the Santienez Reservoir out of service to meet safe
drinking water regulations. Just days ago, Governor Knwson called for
(34:22):
an investigation into LEDWP and the loss of water pressure
at local fire hydrants and lack of water supplies amid
the fire fight. The LEDWP lawsuit comes after several lawsuits
were filed against so Cal Edison by people who lost
their homes in the Eton fire.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
At least man, it's just like the lawyers are just
lined right up there right just can't wait to drop
these lawsuits. Whoever's got the biggest pockets, that's who they're
going to hit fast.
Speaker 23 (34:48):
Five lawsuits have been hot filed by homeowners and renters.
They allege so Cal Edison failed to de energize all
of its electrical equipment despite red flag warnings issued by
the National Weather Serve.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, now here's where things get a little bit tricky,
because when they do deenergize means you lose power. And
when you lose power, then people get angry because they
don't have any power. And then when they don't de energize,
we have a fire. People are angry because they didn't deenergize.
So I have a lot of sympathy for the power
companies because I think they should always err on the
(35:21):
side of caution.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But listen, it's pr nightmare whichever way you slice it,
and believe the fire was sparked by down power lines.
Speaker 23 (35:31):
The wind driven fire destroyed and estimated seven thousand structures
and has killed at least sixteen people.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Now back down here live. All of these lawsuits are.
Speaker 23 (35:39):
Seeking including this latest one against the LEDWP, are seeking
puns compensatory excuse me, compensatory damages for the plaintiffs as
well as punitive damages.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, of course they are.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean those the two ways you get money, right,
You need to you need to compensate me for my losses,
and then you need to be taught a lesson. So
you got the compensatory and then the punative punishment. So
that's the that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
There is.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
In fact, Mark, I think you had the story about FEMA.
I was surprised by I guess, I guess I understand it,
but a little bit surprised. So if somebody has a
go fundme set up, oh yeah, right.
Speaker 13 (36:18):
That was at the top at seven o'clock apparently they
will deduct whatever you make through other means. If I
understood the story correctly, Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So donations from a go Fundme page could impact how
much money people receive from FEMA. They may be able
to offer you offer funds to replace a vehicle, but
if your Go Fundme page clearly states that you're raising
funds to replace a vehicle, then that will impact the eligibility. FEMA,
by law, cannot duplicate benefits, so we can't pay for
things that have already been paid for by other sources.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So what can you do?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Then this sounds like it's just about phrasing on your
GoFundMe page. So you can set up a Go Fundme
page and say or set it up for somebody else
and say, please help them get through this difficult time,
and that might be okay. But if you say, my
brother in law lost his work truck and he needs
(37:15):
to have that replaced so that he can make some
money and start rebuilding their lives, then all of a
sudden it becomes a problem and FEMA basically is going
to deduct that from anything that would give you.
Speaker 13 (37:23):
It seems like a tough needle to threat and I
can't imagine a lot of people who want to risk
losing any benefits.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, But at the same time, you got people like
me who want to help out. And I see the
GoFundMe pages and I go, wow, I can spare a
little bit for this person. I can spare a little
bit for that person. I can spare I feel like
I'm just throwing my money away because if it's going
to be deducted then then it's like, well, let's like
I want it to help out now. And on top
of whatever FEMA's offering.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that you'd be throwing your money away,
but people are going to have to do some calculations
on what they need urgently, and you know where they're
going to get it. They are all sorts of ways
besides money to help out, though. I mean, you can
donate food to animal shelters, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
spare bedroom to Rando's. Yeah, invite people to come live
(38:11):
with you personally.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's a good idea. Yes. Yeah. I told Twala he
could sleep on my couch.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
He's not moved in yet, which careful what you offer
hurts a little bit yeah, yeah, it hurts a little,
but you might want to give that some thought.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Random people sleeping on my couch or other ways to
help out.
Speaker 13 (38:31):
No tawalla specifically, Oh no, you'd be great, Okay, fantastic,
all right.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Meanwhile, GoFundMe is one of the opportunities. There are other
places too. You can always help with the California Fire Foundation,
LA Fire Department Foundation, Salvation Army, obviously Red Cross, right,
we know that, the regional food banks, that sort of thing,
the different groups that we've been working with as well,
and everybody's trying.
Speaker 15 (38:56):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Am I a cynic though?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
When I see some places that are like, oh, just
go to our website and you can you can make
a donation to help people with the wildfires and h
And by the way, that's one of the things I
checked when when we were working with the Dream Center
and what happens with our website. If you go to
the KFIAM six forty dot com slash donate, then that
connects you with the Dream Center and the donations go
(39:19):
through the Dream Center.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But some of these other places say, you know, you
can make your donation here, and what.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Ends up happening is you're making a donation to, say
the widget company, I'm just making one up. You're making
your donation to widget company, who is in fact turning
around and taking all of the money that you donated
and then giving it to the Red Cross. Right, But
in the process, what they're doing is they're going to
take a tax deduction. So they're gonna say we donated
one and a half million dollars to the Red Cross.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Well, no, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
What you did is you facilitated other people making that
donation and then you took a tax deduction out of it.
This is I'm such a cynic. This is why I
don't round up at the grocery store. Do you want
to round up to help kids?
Speaker 9 (40:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
They always look at me like what They really.
Speaker 13 (40:04):
Make you feel like a Nazi if you say no,
you don't help children.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Know because I, oh, boy, if if a cashier gives
me that look, then I always give them that. I go, oh,
do you know if your company is taking a tax
deduction with the money that I'm making a donation on?
And uh, I don't know. No, I know what the
I know what the game is. It doesn't cost them
anything because they're they're donating they're redonating your money, but
then they're taking a tax deduction out of it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
So just be careful, is all I'm saying. Not everybody
is doing that, but there are some that are gonna go, look,
this is a win win.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We're gonna make that donation and we're gonna get a
tax deduction out of it. Yeah, and I don't like that.
South Park has a great bit on it because you
know how sometimes you have to push no, like two.
Speaker 12 (40:45):
Or three times, Oh my god, go back the sale
and then they got the last one was just like okay,
so try to pull this sandwich out of this children's mouth.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And then once you do that, then you don't have
to donate. Right. It's ridiculous. Yeah, makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
And I know what, I know what. It's not a scam,
but they're not exactly being forthright. Would you like to
make a donation that also helps us get a tax deduction? No,
So anyway, just be careful with that because if there's
a tax that if you're making a donation, you deserve
the tax deduction and you don't need to be helping
some other uh, some other group make a tax deduction
with money that isn't theirs in the first place. Now,
(41:21):
if they're donating their own money, then great, take the
tax deduction. That's what it's there for.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm all for it. I just don't like it when
they funnel it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (41:28):
If I could just add one more thing before we
go the when they put pressure on you, it's your time.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
We're cutting into market, So you take as much as
you want. Oh the hell with the news.
Speaker 13 (41:35):
Then when they put pressure on you at the point
of sale, you don't have time to research anything. And
it's always always good advice to tell people to do
your homework before you donate to anybody. Really click click through,
read the fine print, find out where things go. Because
we've had ample news stories in the last several years
of charities that wound out being fraudulent.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, that's a great point too, really great point. And
look are those the people that the AG is gonna
go after? Are they gonna Are they gonna hit those scammers?
Are they more worried about the the guys that are
looting on the streets, because Uh, last I checked, Taala's
got them covered. He's gonna take care of anybody that's
looting on the streets with his dull machete rst.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You don't know.
Speaker 13 (42:15):
Nobody should have ever given him punish your comics when
he was growing up.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
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Chris merrill In from mo Kelly Listened Anytime on Demand
of the iHeartRadio app. I think that's all the stuff
I'm supposed to say, right, We got it all out.
Good to be with you. Thank you so much for
allowing me into your evening. I keep watching as we
all do, all the different devastation. I didn't, and I
was listening to Dean Sharpairs. He was talking with Tim,
and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that there were
(00:27):
emberproof events. I know it's gonna sound a little bit
ignorant in here, but I didn't realize that there were
emberproof vents.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I just looked it up. Home depots sells those things.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
They're not all that expensive, and I know that obviously,
if you want a contractor to install, it's gonna cost
you a little bit more of it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man, I guess I didn't even think about the herd
immunity value of the ember proof vents. So if I
was listening correctly, and I think I was, Tim was
talking about if you don't have houses catching on fire,
then basically you're limiting the amount of fuel that can
(01:02):
burn in one of these massive fires, right right, And
if that's the case, and you can limit these fires,
then for every house that has the ember proof vents
on that are able to, you know, to remove fuel
as a possibility, all of a sudden, every house helps
(01:24):
the next house, and the whole neighborhood kind of works together.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
As a fire block.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Basically. That is fascinating. I thought that was really interesting stuff.
Good content, man, good content. Meanwhile, look, we've all been
thinking it, and that is every time there's a massive fire,
and I'm not just talking about residential areas. Every time
we have a big fire and it wipes out the vegetation,
that means that we don't have the roots holding things on,
(01:50):
and then we worry about what happens when rain comes.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We know what happens, right. We know.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Some places that the fire itself are now running into
some other issues with the ground already beginning to shift.
ABC seven was talking about that because there's a house
in I believe it's one of the Palisa's houses that
survived the fire didn't survive after This is.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
One of the stranger situations where a home that wasn't
burned to the ground, is literally broken in half. And
again Lacity Fire with their damage assessment teams are still
trying to figure out what happened here.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
What caused that is still under investigation by our damage
assessment team.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
House just split in half, you know, like when the
Titanic started going down and then it's cracked in half.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's what this house did.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Now, if you look right above it, you're going to
see a lot of smoldering debris and things that have burned.
It's apparent the infrastructures absolutely compromised. Some smell of gas
up there.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, well, smell of gas in here. Okay, stop.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The water is still flowing from the area. The foundation
is comp there's no power. It's damaged so significantly that
it has been red tag deeming it unsafe for people
to go in that area.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It split like a KitKat bar right in the middle,
just crack of course, it's unsafe to go in there.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So what happens when we get a significant amount of rain?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I think we all know the answer.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
If there's a heavy rain, we're told, then there's the
thread of debris flow and MUDs lines. Yeah, because of
all of the vegetation that's been burned away. LA City
and County Fire is preparing for that as well. And
again for those of you who want to come back
in here, as you heard Sheriff Louona on our ear
our last.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Segment, you didn't hear that because radio, you need to
be patient.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The earliest maybe a week from now, but experience tells
us it'll probably be longer than that. And again still
under investigation, what caused this house to literally be snapped
in half.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
When he says next week or whatever, to try to
get in, probably longer than that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's just to get in to see if you have
a house standing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's not to get in, and you know, bring the
wife and kids and dog and cat and everything you
grabbed back. That's just to see if you have anything left.
There are some areas where people will not be returning
for a year and a half, two years. It blows
my mind. And here's the sad truth with every natural disaster.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And look, we do it too. You gotta admit we
do it too.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
A hurricane hits in Houston, there's flooding in Asheville, North Carolina,
we go, oh my goodness, that's terrible. And then all right, well,
the rains have stopped. Okay, well they're cleaning it up,
and then cameras leave. Ashville, North Carolina is not to
what it was back in October. It's still an absolute
(04:51):
mess and will be for a very long time, as
will so many of our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Just just a wreck. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
What what I think is somewhat infuriating is with the
finger pointing that goes on everybody's well, why didn't the
news rake the forest? Which silly argument, and why didn't
so and so do this? And why didn't so and
so do that? And I have this conversation with my
father and I go round and round on these things.
(05:20):
I talk about some of the devastating fires, and we
talked extensively back when the campfire happened and wiped out
the town of Paradise, and I said it was you know,
it was power lines and that was a bad deal
and horrible situation. And he says, well, you know, I
always love when I get Dad explained, you know, fires
(05:41):
are normal, they're very good for the they're very good
for the forest.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The forest need the fires.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And I said, I would agree with you, certainly, not
at the frequency that we're seeing certainly not at the
magnitude that we're seeing, and Pop says, well, I don't
know about that. You realize that if you take a
look at at the wildfires, what causes the wildfires, it's
something like ninety plus percent are human caused, maybe even
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more than ninety percent human caused, which means that we
it's not nature's natural cleansing of an area. This is
us contributing to it, which is why so many people
are wondering what started these fires. It wasn't lightning, it
wasn't a volcanic eruption that started the fires. I think
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it's safe to say it is human cause in some way,
shape or form. As I mentioned the campfire, that was
PG and E power lines. And now you've probably heard
about what's going on with the Eaton fire, and I
know that the oh I think it was. The CEO
of Edison was talking with ABC seven and they asked
him about was it your power lines? And then he
(06:47):
got he sort of started ceo'splaining things, and I.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Said, Dan with Pedro Pizarro, President and CEO Edison International,
the parent company of Southern California Edison, we covered a
wide range of topics, but I want to focus on
concern and questions over the pie.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Skip ahead here. What does he say?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
There were two sets of lines along Eaton Canyon. On
the west side, there's a distribution, a lower voltage line.
Distribution are the lines that typically go into homes. That
line had covered conductor, but it had already been deenergized.
Power had been turned off something like two hours before
the report had started the fire.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Now, when he says lower voltage, what he's talking about
is what's coming into your house is going into your service,
all right, So you're talking two twenty that's going into
your service. Maybe maybe a little bit more than that,
all right, You're That's when he says low volt He's
not talking about speaker wire, all right, So let's not
He says low voltage to power companies is different than
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low voltage to you and I.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
We also have transmission lines on the east side of
the canyon, and those were energized. But the criteria for
when we shut off also depends on the type of line.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Bedrim Pizzato is referring to the power line in this
photo taken during very early stages of the Eaton fire.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You can't see it because TV but it's a photo.
You've probably seen it. It's a photo. It's a house,
and you can see the fire behind the house, up
the hill and under the power.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Lines along the Eaton Canyon hiking trail. He explains why
those lines were still energized.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And think about it this way.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
The smaller lines distribution lines, they're lighter. If you have
strong winds, you know, they can get buffeted around more
than a heavy, more robust transmission tower transmission line, and
so we typically have higher wind speeds that are the
thresholds for transmission versus distribution. So that's why those transmission
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lines were not the energized.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So okay, how'd that work out?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, there's going to be an investigation, right, gonna
be an investigation. We'll see. But look, if you're like me,
I'm not breaking anything here. This is not any sort
of like shocking information. When the fire started breaking out,
we all wanted, first of all, we want everybody to
be safe, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But what caused this?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And in my head, I thought I'd put fifty bucks
on at least one of these things was caused by power.
At least one of them was caused by the power
lines at least one, and we don't know about the
Palisades fire. Sounds like maybe that one is a different cause.
But also it's because of the bipedal wildlife, meaning you
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and me humans in the area.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
What did we do wrong in that? I'm gonna tell
you about that here in just Semitic.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
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Speaker 3 (09:40):
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Speaker 9 (09:46):
It is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It is an honor being with you.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I am as frustrated as most anybody who is watching
from afar, and by a far, I mean I don't
have any property that is in immediate danger anything like that,
so and I think most most Southern Californians don't. But boy,
we are watching very carefully because we don't know when
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the next spark might happen. We don't know when the
next the next fire might pop up, or who it
might threaten. So and we've already seen other smaller fires
that fortunately the firefighters have done a magnificent job of
tamping those out very quickly. We've seen some crazy people
with flamethrowers deciding they're going to go out and see
if they can start fires. I don't know what's wrong
(10:29):
with people, but the majority of us are worried, not necessarily.
I mean, we're worried about the wins, obviously, but we're
not necessarily worried about nature starting a fire. We're worried
about nature fanning any fire that might be there. And
it sounds like when it comes to the Palisades fire,
it is all on humans. This is human caused. Now,
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maybe not the actual Palisades fire, but the fire itself
may have come from a previous fire that was human cause.
For the third day in a row, investigators with the
eighth this is a couple days old, but is good audio.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Tf's National Response team zeroed in on mountainous terrain behind
homes in the Palisades Highland section of Pacific Palisades. This
is where they believe the January seventh fire that's burned
over twenty three thousand acres started right but how did
it start? But investigators wouldn't confirm whether that fire was
a reignition of an eight acre brush fire.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Six days prior.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There you go, it's a reignition they're not confirming it,
and that's fine. They shouldn't whatever they're doing their investigation.
I get it, but it sure seems like a pretty
reasonable avenue to explore. It is deserving of great scrutiny
and investigation.
Speaker 11 (11:43):
We've heard those reports, but I cannot get into a
specifics of what we have found or located up there
as far as a way of evidence.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, was there any lightning in the area on January seventh, No,
there wasn't. Okay, any other acts of God that might
have started the fire, No, all right, and it probably
started in that burnscar area from the previous brush fire.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Reignitions can happen a week, maybe even two weeks after
a previous fire.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We know that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right, So this seems like got pretty plausible, if
not probable, the cause of the Palisades fire a reignition
from a previous fire.
Speaker 11 (12:23):
But we are looking into everything. We will leave no
stone unturned.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
The ETF tells Eyewitness Snooze they've received over one hundred
and fifty leads and tips from residents so far, and
that this investigation will take time because of the size
and scope of the fire. Obviously, this side by side
satellite image. You can't see it because radio shows the
burn scar from that January first fire and the beginning
of the Massive Palisades fire on January seventh.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh, they just happen to be the same place.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
It's near the Skull Rock trailhead. Residents say the smoke
from both fires was in the same location.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
They're experts in this field.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
We have certified fire and instigators up there, certified explosives
to experts up there.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
By the way, What a cool job. I know there's
got to be a school for certified fire investigators. But
where was my high school guidance conselor in that one,
because I definitely would have explored that avenue.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That just seems like a cool job.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Accelerate detection canines with us trying to narrow down the
origin of the fire. Yes, they are up in the
Skull Rock area working, but that's where the evidence has
led us right now.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You mean back to where the burn scar was from
the brush fire.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
Yeah, and then the other half of the team are
going door to door asking for that video surveillance or
what people saw or what they didn't see in certain
dates of time.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Eric Robertson was one of the first nine one one
callers on January seventh, out taking a walk with his
wife when he spotted flames. Robertson says he didn't see
anyone in the area when the fire started. Residents heard
that the New Year's Day fire may have been caused
by fireworks.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Ah, there you go.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
And I asked the ATF whether they've found any fragments
of fireworks. All I was told is that their team
is trained in fireworks and that is one of the
many theories they're looking at.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Live in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Josh Haskell, ABC seven eyewitness.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
ND, all right, thank you very much. So fireworks on
New Year's what that's crazy? Who would have thought such
a thing. I can't stand fireworks. Just ban them all
over the place. Ban them on the fourth of July
everywhere fireworks are so there's no upside to fireworks. My
wife hates when I start talking about fireworks because she
(14:30):
loves the fireworks. I can't stand fireworks. Do you do
you have like a lot of people around your house
that do it?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, all illegal, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, but
they love they just love the fireworks.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean it sounds like it sounds like you're in
a war zone.
Speaker 12 (14:43):
No, yeah, that's not even an exaggeration because me and
Moe kind of live in close proximity to each other. Yeah,
and in the area that we live, it's like the
one like whatever square mile you want to call it.
Oh my god, it's still legal. And you know when
he does his show from chatte chatte mo, you know
you can hear it. It sounds like it's out like
(15:04):
behind his window were gym, but it's crazy and it's like, no,
that was that was blocked down.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Look, I was doing shows and I had closed the
window and I thought, oh, people are going to hear this.
I mean, it sounds like cannon's going off outside my window.
I can't stand it. My wife gets so angry with
me because I just don't. I'm not a fireworks guy
in general. What is the upside? Oh, but it's it's
we love to blow things up in America. We have
we have veterans that have PTSD where it's it's difficult.
(15:34):
How many households don't have pets nowadays. I mean we're
at the point where I what is it. It's got
to be more than fifty percent of households have pets.
Pets don't do well with boom booms, right, not at all?
So what is what is the advantage?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what I like?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I like the new drone shows. I like drone shows
a lot. Took the words right in my mouth. They're great.
Those are cool.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, I love that they're great. In the meantime, somebody
wanted to set off fireworks. Sounds like fireworks or maybe
a campfire. Could have been a campfire too. I don't
want to just assume it's fireworks. But look again, that
fire started New Year's Day or New Year's Eve, late
New Year's Eve, I mean firework time. And now we've
(16:14):
got thirteen thousand structures that are burned. Good job, guys,
I mean this is us. We are going to be
the cause of our own destruction on this planet. There's
no doubt about it. I mean, whether it's slowly we
try to destroy our planet or rapidly we try to
(16:34):
destroy the planet. We're very bad at taking care of
where we live. We're very bad at it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I am just on a grumpy little roll tonight, don't I.
But I always want to offer solutions, solution bat all fireworks,
stop the sale of fireworks. If you've got to get
the president elect on board, then you just say, fireworks
are there. It's a Chinese invention and we don't need it,
that's what you say. You just bring his brand, his
(17:03):
xenophobia into it. Just fireworks is the Chinese. They're trying
to destroy America by inventing fireworks seven hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Whatever fan the fireworks fill done on its head, flip it. Yeah,
just be done with it. Just be done with it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Meanwhile, if we aren't destroying the world in which we live,
we're trying to destroy one another. But fortunately we have
elected officials to protect us. I don't feel safe about that.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:37):
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Speaker 1 (17:42):
Okay, uh fires, where were we? Oh?
Speaker 13 (17:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Here? It is horrible, horrible people. So look, as a species,
we're terrible. Right. We do not take care of the
planet that we have. We just assume it'll be around.
We very much take it for granted. Whether that's because
we set off fireworks during a dry, windy season, or
we just decide smog is fun. Whatever it is, we're
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terrible stewards of the environment. But that said, maybe the
worst are the people who take advantage during a disaster.
Scam artists taking advantage of people in the area that
are losing homes. And I don't know if you're getting
(18:31):
phone calls, I don't know. I don't know if you're
getting bid well, we're here to help, you can reach out.
I mean, these are as bad as the whole your
car could be at the end of a warranty, blah
blah blah. Those people right, your cars extended warranty. I
hate those scammers. It's even worse when scammers prey on
people in an emotional state, and of course they do
(18:53):
because we're more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Right, It's kind of like, uh.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like crooked funeral homes. Right, you know, I know that
your I know that your beloved mother had a plan.
But now that she's gone, don't you think she'd want
this upgraded casket. Don't you think she'd want the extra
plush pillows. Don't you think she would want this?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Would she?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I don't know, Because she's dead. I don't think she's
gonna notice how soft the pillow is. But you know
how they just like the crooked people, just they prey
on people when they're the most vulnerable. So now we've
got Laeda. Nathan Hoffman says, oh no, he's going. After
he talked with the people at ABC seven. He was
talking about the looters and the scammers and all these
(19:47):
tool bags. It's the nicest thing I can say.
Speaker 14 (19:50):
You know, the level of criminal activity is quite candidly despicable.
We have firefighters literally putting their lives on the line
every day to save lives in our homes. We have
law enforcement work in twenty four hours a day to
keep us safe and secure. I'm one of over two
hundred thousand people who've cooperated in this evacuation. People like
(20:11):
my sister have lost their home in Pacific Palisades, and
thousands of people.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
All right, hakmen, we don't need to be tragedy poaching
this one have lost their homes.
Speaker 14 (20:20):
Yet there are criminals who look at this as an
opportunity to exploit the most vulnerable people in their lowest moments.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I kind of said that I agree with him.
Speaker 14 (20:29):
We have set an unmistakably clear message at these people.
It's a question of just when, not if, they will
get arrested, they will get prosecuted, and they will be
punished to the full extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I just I don't believe not. Look, he's new, maybe
he will. I don't think that you're going to get everybody.
You're not going to convince me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh, it's not a question of if, but when. Nah,
I don't believe that.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't believe that you are going to be able
to arrest and secure prosecutions that everyone that's trying to
pull a scam.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It just doesn't work that way. Yes, I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 14 (21:07):
Yesterday we announced the charges on nine looters and one
person who did an arson and Azusa.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So that's ten people. That's it.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Only ten people have tried scamming anything or looting. Well, good,
you've got them.
Speaker 15 (21:19):
All.
Speaker 14 (21:19):
These looters were involved in the Pacific Palisades and they
eaten fires. They basically were people who went into these
these residences when the residents whereas residences were evacuated, Yet
the police were able to.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Catch the good are you telling me those are the
only ones?
Speaker 14 (21:36):
Two of these people are looking at life in prison
because there are three strikers. Another person's looking at twenty
two years in prison as a second striker, the arsonist
is looking up into nine years in prison, and the
other people who went in illegally into these houses they're
looking at six years in prison.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
The looters are horrible. I don't know, like the scammers
are worse. No, who's work on a scale of horrible criminals?
Are the looters worse than the scammers?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Ronner? Would you rather be looted or scammed?
Speaker 13 (22:12):
I think you need to factor in the landlords who
are jacking up rents as well. We haven't seen a
ton of dodge at that, but I've seen lots of
reports in assorted mainly independent news, about landlords doubling rents
and doubling house prices.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
All that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's just supplying demand, Mark, It's look, the supply has
gone down, demand has.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Gone up, well, just supplying demand. It's like when the
gas prices go way up.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's not profit taking by the oil company, that's just
supplying demand.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Well.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
Oddly enough, the state of California has a law against
that kind of crap, and some people don't seem to care. Wait,
you need to tell me when someone is trying to
charge damn near two thousand dollars for a single, that's
price gouging. That's what's happening in Pasadena right now than
soft spaces. Oh that can't be true.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh come on listen.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If you came from the Bay Area, that would be
a deal, that would be a real deal. This isn't guy,
It's just supply and demand. How could that be any different?
People are living paycheck at paycheck anyway. Imagine if you're
somebody who's living paycheck to paycheck and then you are
you're evacuate. You know that the fire ripped through at
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least near your neighborhood. You don't know if your house
is still standing. You can't get back in. You don't
have any idea, and now you've got to find someplace
to stay, and you're supposed to come up with the
extra money.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's not there. It's not there.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Attorney General or Ra Bunta saying that he's gonna drop
the hammer on people who attempt to take advantage of victims.
So he was talking with Katy La and he said
he's gonna put more resources toward investigating criminal complaint. It's
made in the area of the wildfires. He said, we're
not bluffing. If you think we're bluffing and you call it,
(24:06):
you will regret it. So as of Wednesday, as many
as fifty looting arrests have been made, so that's even
more than what the DA was saying. The concern is
so large that some residents are defying evacuation orders and
arming themselves to protect their homes from looters. This is
something I heard John Coobal talking about too, where he
says he was talking about do I evacuate or do
(24:28):
I stay? You know, I'm in an area where you
know we're in the warning area, and do I take off?
But if I leave, my house might get looted. Do
I stay and try to protect my house or do
I take off because the looters don't they don't follow
the evacuation orders. I feel like maybe this is something
Look look, if you're an assembly person, maybe take a
(24:51):
look at this. Is there an enhancement for people who
commit crimes during states of emergency?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Like there should be an enhancement in the same way.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That we have, uh like racial enhancements. If there's a
prejudicial crime, you know, what's a hate crime?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Excuse me? A hate crime.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
We've got hate crime enhancements. Can we do something that's
specific to uh when we're in a state of emergency
people committing crimes. I feel like there ought to be
an enhancement on that, and then put the word out
there's going to be an enhancement.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And scammers are just the worst. Scammers prey on your emotions.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Looters, at least, it's just the old fashioned just stealing
from people, which again, put an enhancement on that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Give them more time. No, no, no, no, not more time. Looters.
Speaker 16 (25:40):
Looters need some something a little harsh or a little
more old school life.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 16 (25:45):
But when you are caught looting, they just bring a
chopping block up to the spot where they catch you
and they remove your hands and cameras. How about we
just remove their tongues upon catching them. When they're caught,
you remove their tongues right then and there no prosecution.
You've scammed someone, You've you've conned someone out of their
their finances. In this time, let's remove those tongues.
Speaker 13 (26:07):
You might enjoy life in the theocratic Republic of Iran
far more than here.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, listen, at time like this, hands must go, hands
must go. Cut them up.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
No justice there, Uh huh, that's right. We don't even
worry about due process anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
We just right.
Speaker 16 (26:26):
Look, I promise you, if you're caught coming out of
one of these houses with stuff in your hands that's
not yours, they need to just have the chopping block
with the blood still on it, right there. Have the
person come around with the rusty machete, nothing sharp, to
make it easy on you and chop your hands off,
all right.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
And making examples out of them, because now that everyone
has cameras to film that and broadcast it all the rock.
Speaker 16 (26:48):
Catch a live you want, you want to go live,
Let's go insta, Let's let's do it for the gram wow,
all right, or the TikTok or the TikTok. Well until Sunday,
talk until someday.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Listen to you. So I mean, is this like I
have a dull machete?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, super sharp machetes aren't real effective and cutting
tall grass or anything like that, you actually have to
have a little bit of an adult dullness on them.
I mean, yeah, is that rusty? Rusty too? Well, forget
about all these half measures. Just get a wood chipper
and be done with it. Well, that's I'm a full fargo.
I'm okay with that. Yeah, the full fargo.
Speaker 13 (27:26):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Would this be like a special task force that would
go door to door yeah, with a Is it a
flatbed truck that has the hand chopping yes mechanism on it?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well?
Speaker 13 (27:39):
Would they have the wood shippers on wheels? So it's
very convenient? Oh yeah, put them either way.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Either way.
Speaker 16 (27:44):
I just want to make sure the blood trails behind
the wood chipper truck. It needs to send a message.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And then we amplify their screams too, so that people
who aren't in you know, don't don't have sight lines
can hear what's going on.
Speaker 16 (27:56):
Oh yeah, you mic them, You mike them so as
they're going through you here their terror.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Okay, all right, Yeah, this is why I freaking love
you guys, nutbags.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I need some counseling. I love this, I love it.
I love it. Let that raw emotion flow, yes, let
the evil out to walla, Yes, let it flow through you.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Meanwhile, some people are taking other measures after losing their places.
While Twala is dulling his machete and pouring salt water
on it, just to make sure it's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Others have taken the legal route. We'll tell you what
they're doing. That's next.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
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back to evacuated areas that have been deemed safe.
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people are taking their frustrations out elsewhere, like on the DWP.
And you knew this wasn't gonna take very long before
the lawsuit started dropping. DWP. People said, we can't be
running out of water during a fire. That is no bueno.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Whose fault is this? Somebody has to pay.
Speaker 23 (33:19):
Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and Southernlifornia Edison
are the ones named in that lawsuit. Now we've seen
it all with heartbreaking images of houses reduced to rubble
like that one out here on Sunset. The people who
are filing these claims say that this shouldn't have happened
and they want someone to take accountability. Now, this latest
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lawsuit has been filed against the LADWP by a group
of survivors of the Palisades Fire who claim the utilities
inadequate water delivery hampered firefighters in battling the deadly fire,
which has destroyed thousands of structures and killed at least
nine people. Now, a key part of the lawsuit is
that Santa Ynez Reservoir, one hundred and seventy million gallon
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water storage complex that had been empty for nearly a year.
Here you see that reservoir as the Palisades Fire roared
around it. The LAEDWP put out a statement before this
filing saying, in part, the utility quote was required to
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drinking water regulations. Just days ago, Governor Knwson called for
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an investigation into LEDWP and the loss of water pressure
at local fire hydrants and lack of water supplies amid
the fire fight. The LEDWP lawsuit comes after several lawsuits
were filed against so Cal Edison by people who lost
their homes in the Eton fire.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
At least man, it's just like the lawyers are just
lined right up there right just can't wait to drop
these lawsuits. Whoever's got the biggest pockets, that's who they're
going to hit fast.
Speaker 23 (34:48):
Five lawsuits have been hot filed by homeowners and renters.
They allege so Cal Edison failed to de energize all
of its electrical equipment despite red flag warnings issued by
the National Weather Serve.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, now here's where things get a little bit tricky,
because when they do deenergize means you lose power. And
when you lose power, then people get angry because they
don't have any power. And then when they don't de energize,
we have a fire. People are angry because they didn't deenergize.
So I have a lot of sympathy for the power
companies because I think they should always err on the
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side of caution.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But listen, it's pr nightmare whichever way you slice it,
and believe the fire was sparked by down power lines.
Speaker 23 (35:31):
The wind driven fire destroyed and estimated seven thousand structures
and has killed at least sixteen people.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Now back down here live. All of these lawsuits are.
Speaker 23 (35:39):
Seeking including this latest one against the LEDWP, are seeking
puns compensatory excuse me, compensatory damages for the plaintiffs as
well as punitive damages.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, of course they are.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean those the two ways you get money, right,
You need to you need to compensate me for my losses,
and then you need to be taught a lesson. So
you got the compensatory and then the punative punishment. So
that's the that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
There is.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
In fact, Mark, I think you had the story about FEMA.
I was surprised by I guess, I guess I understand it,
but a little bit surprised. So if somebody has a
go fundme set up, oh yeah, right.
Speaker 13 (36:18):
That was at the top at seven o'clock apparently they
will deduct whatever you make through other means. If I
understood the story correctly, Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So donations from a go Fundme page could impact how
much money people receive from FEMA. They may be able
to offer you offer funds to replace a vehicle, but
if your Go Fundme page clearly states that you're raising
funds to replace a vehicle, then that will impact the eligibility. FEMA,
by law, cannot duplicate benefits, so we can't pay for
things that have already been paid for by other sources.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
So what can you do?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Then this sounds like it's just about phrasing on your
GoFundMe page. So you can set up a Go Fundme
page and say or set it up for somebody else
and say, please help them get through this difficult time,
and that might be okay. But if you say, my
brother in law lost his work truck and he needs
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to have that replaced so that he can make some
money and start rebuilding their lives, then all of a
sudden it becomes a problem and FEMA basically is going
to deduct that from anything that would give you.
Speaker 13 (37:23):
It seems like a tough needle to threat and I
can't imagine a lot of people who want to risk
losing any benefits.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, But at the same time, you got people like
me who want to help out. And I see the
GoFundMe pages and I go, wow, I can spare a
little bit for this person. I can spare a little
bit for that person. I can spare I feel like
I'm just throwing my money away because if it's going
to be deducted then then it's like, well, let's like
I want it to help out now. And on top
of whatever FEMA's offering.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that you'd be throwing your money away,
but people are going to have to do some calculations
on what they need urgently, and you know where they're
going to get it. They are all sorts of ways
besides money to help out, though. I mean, you can
donate food to animal shelters, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
spare bedroom to Rando's. Yeah, invite people to come live
(38:11):
with you personally.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's a good idea. Yes. Yeah. I told Twala he
could sleep on my couch.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
He's not moved in yet, which careful what you offer
hurts a little bit yeah, yeah, it hurts a little,
but you might want to give that some thought.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Random people sleeping on my couch or other ways to
help out.
Speaker 13 (38:31):
No tawalla specifically, Oh no, you'd be great, Okay, fantastic,
all right.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Meanwhile, GoFundMe is one of the opportunities. There are other
places too. You can always help with the California Fire Foundation,
LA Fire Department Foundation, Salvation Army, obviously Red Cross, right,
we know that, the regional food banks, that sort of thing,
the different groups that we've been working with as well,
and everybody's trying.
Speaker 15 (38:56):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Am I a cynic though?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
When I see some places that are like, oh, just
go to our website and you can you can make
a donation to help people with the wildfires and h
And by the way, that's one of the things I
checked when when we were working with the Dream Center
and what happens with our website. If you go to
the KFIAM six forty dot com slash donate, then that
connects you with the Dream Center and the donations go
(39:19):
through the Dream Center.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But some of these other places say, you know, you
can make your donation here, and what.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Ends up happening is you're making a donation to, say
the widget company, I'm just making one up. You're making
your donation to widget company, who is in fact turning
around and taking all of the money that you donated
and then giving it to the Red Cross. Right, But
in the process, what they're doing is they're going to
take a tax deduction. So they're gonna say we donated
one and a half million dollars to the Red Cross.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Well, no, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
What you did is you facilitated other people making that
donation and then you took a tax deduction out of it.
This is I'm such a cynic. This is why I
don't round up at the grocery store. Do you want
to round up to help kids?
Speaker 9 (40:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
They always look at me like what They really.
Speaker 13 (40:04):
Make you feel like a Nazi if you say no,
you don't help children.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Know because I, oh, boy, if if a cashier gives
me that look, then I always give them that. I go, oh,
do you know if your company is taking a tax
deduction with the money that I'm making a donation on?
And uh, I don't know. No, I know what the
I know what the game is. It doesn't cost them
anything because they're they're donating they're redonating your money, but
then they're taking a tax deduction out of it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
So just be careful, is all I'm saying. Not everybody
is doing that, but there are some that are gonna go, look,
this is a win win.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We're gonna make that donation and we're gonna get a
tax deduction out of it. Yeah, and I don't like that.
South Park has a great bit on it because you
know how sometimes you have to push no, like two.
Speaker 12 (40:45):
Or three times, Oh my god, go back the sale
and then they got the last one was just like okay,
so try to pull this sandwich out of this children's mouth.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And then once you do that, then you don't have
to donate. Right. It's ridiculous. Yeah, makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
And I know what, I know what. It's not a scam,
but they're not exactly being forthright. Would you like to
make a donation that also helps us get a tax deduction? No,
So anyway, just be careful with that because if there's
a tax that if you're making a donation, you deserve
the tax deduction and you don't need to be helping
some other uh, some other group make a tax deduction
with money that isn't theirs in the first place. Now,
(41:21):
if they're donating their own money, then great, take the
tax deduction. That's what it's there for.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm all for it. I just don't like it when
they funnel it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (41:28):
If I could just add one more thing before we
go the when they put pressure on you, it's your time.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
We're cutting into market, So you take as much as
you want. Oh the hell with the news.
Speaker 13 (41:35):
Then when they put pressure on you at the point
of sale, you don't have time to research anything. And
it's always always good advice to tell people to do
your homework before you donate to anybody. Really click click through,
read the fine print, find out where things go. Because
we've had ample news stories in the last several years
of charities that wound out being fraudulent.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, that's a great point too, really great point. And
look are those the people that the AG is gonna
go after? Are they gonna Are they gonna hit those scammers?
Are they more worried about the the guys that are
looting on the streets, because Uh, last I checked, Taala's
got them covered. He's gonna take care of anybody that's
looting on the streets with his dull machete rst.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You don't know.
Speaker 13 (42:15):
Nobody should have ever given him punish your comics when
he was growing up.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
I love it to death, all right, Uh, Chris Marriland
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