July 30, 2024 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A recap of the major announcements announced at Comic-Con in San Diego over the weekend…PLUS – Deadpool and Wolverine dominate the box office during its opening weekend AND Mo and Mark give their SPOILER FREE reviews - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It exceeded every single expectation. In fact, the reported numbers
for Deadpool and Wolverine on Sunday night were two hundred
and five million domestically and four hundred and thirty eight
million worldwide. By Monday morning, they had to be readjusted
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to two hundred and eleven million dollars domestically and four
hundred and forty four million worldwide. KFI AM six forty
years later with mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
I saw Deadpool and Wolverine Thursday night, and I can
say without a doubt, and I've been accused of recency bias,
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but I'm going to couch my comments in this way,
Deadpool and Wolverine, without hyperbole or exaggeration, probably the best MCU,
That's Marvel Cinematic Universe movie ever. And the reason I
say that is because the expectations in advance of it
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what it needed to do to I will say, resuscitate
the Marvel brand. Because people were talking about superhero fatigue.
The expectations were otherworldly for this movie, and not only
did it meet those expectations, but it shattered them. The
number of jokes about life, news, culture, Disney, Fox, the cameos.
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This is a spoiler free review. It was unmatched. I
don't know how they got so much into a movie.
It required you to follow current events having nothing to
do with superhero movies. It required you to have knowledge
of the previous movies which were on the Fox side
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of things. If you saw like the X Men movies
going back to two thousand, you were in a better
position to appreciate this movie. I cannot say enough about it.
And yes, I saw we have a Christian theme going tonight.
I saw the story about how conservative Christians are protesting
this blasphemous Deadpool and Wolverine movie.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Now this was in the trailer, so I'm not telling
you anything. Deadpool.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ryan Reynolds character refers to himself as Marvel Jesus. He's
the one who's been sent to save the MCU and
make everything right. And in the previous versions of Deadpool,
there were some posts movie clips where he's going around
changing up the timeline, trying to fix some things that
fanboys like me have been complaining about. That sets up
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this movie, and he does more of that in this movie,
and since he's referred to himself as Marvel Jesus, some
people have gotten their ass on their shoulders and said.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That they walked out.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now, if you actually went to the third iteration of
Deadpool and did not know it was either vulgar, there
was blasphemous, that it was borderline X rated with the
amount of violence, and only because of the utterance of
the phrase Marvel Jesus that you were offended and decided
to walk out, I can't take you seriously. I cannot
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take you seriously because there's no way you would have
gone through this movie if any of that other stuff
bothered you. There's no way in the world. But I
loved the movie. It was funny as all get out.
There were some cameos which were completely unforeseen, and it
was it's I can understand why some people may not
have gotten all the movie because it's so meta, an
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inside nerd, the nerdology of it all, and I don't
want to say more. If you want to know more
with all the spoilers, assuming you've seen the movie, you
can go to our podcast section and at a CAFI
AM six forty dot com or wherever you download the
later with Mo Kelly podcast, we uploaded what we call
our Nerds of the round Table night, So the nerd
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a round table, our roundtable discussion. We go through all
the Easter eggs and all the cameos and the backstory
and what each thing meant. And you can listen to
that all there with complete with profanity and spoilers.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But we're not doing that tonight. But I know Mark
Runner also saw pity. I'm ready with the profanity. Let's
let it fly, come with it. No, that's okay, No,
that's all right. Really, I'm gonna stay on the radio tonight.
Oh okay, just tonight. Foosh doesn't need to get on
the dump button.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know, No, not yet. Stephan, did you get
a seat? Did you get to see it yet? Yeah?
I did? All right, Well, let's hear it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I thought it was you kind of nailed the nail
the head because it was just like you said, there's
so much hype, there's so much expectation. It matched it
and just went even beyond that. The soundtrack was a
lot of fun, the little reveals. If you know enough
about the characters, there's a lot of fun twists in
a way I guess you could say, and those are
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some of the best moments, and of course everyone in
the theater loses their minds, and it was just a
lot of fun. Like if you just like these characters,
and if you even know just a little, because I'm
not like a huge fan like you guys, but like
I know enough that I was able to get the references. You'll, you'll,
I mean, you'll have the best time. It's awesome. Mark,
you saw it with Tuala.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I was sorry that you weren't there, But Tuala
and I were just elbowing each other and pointing at
the screen and squealing like little piglets through the whole movie.
We had so much fun. It was so satisfying. It
was just absolutely no holds barred with anything, just a
giant middle finger to everybody's notions of propriety. I wouldn't
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just single out any particular group. It's just like everybody's
fair game. And that's the kind of movie those are.
If if you want to make it your avocation or
your hobby to be offended by stuff, there's gonna be
plenty in there for you. But doesn't everybody have better
things to do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Sean Lee, the writing partner of Ryan Reynolds, Sean Levy
combined with Ryan Reynolds, I would say, and at the
risk of hyperbole, but I know how this movie's going
to be received as as we go down the road
in history. There's a very mel Brooks esque feeling to this.
It's a commentary on culture. It's a commentary on America.
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It makes fun of all of our political and social
issues of the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's all I'll say. Yeah, what if mel Brooks was
a nerd into ultra violence.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, yes, that's the only way I can describe it,
because there's so many layers to them. Move Yes, there's
just the base superhero layer of Deadpool, wo Wolverine, and.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Then you get deeper and deeper.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
As far as every reddit board chat and complain about
problems with the Marvel Cinematic universe, it's in the movie,
every single one their pop culture references, having nothing to
do with nerd culture, I'll say, with the real lives
of people.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
In the movie, I kind of think of Deadpool as
a sort of bugs bunny who also kills people with
his break in the fourth wall and his inside jokes
and his pop culture equips. If you grew up having
your personality largely formed by bugs, Bunny, this will be
very familiar to you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And also Stephan said it. The soundtrack was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
How often do you find Madonna as an earworm in
your head in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Fun?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It is that disonance because the music was so incongruous
to the.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Vulgarity and also the violence on screen.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah. I think that at this point it can be
kind of stale to ironically use a happy fun song
during violent carnage. But the way they use Madonna's like
a prayer during a real key action scene was just
a master work. I loved it and I want to
see it again.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's not a spoiler because I've used it before and
that's kind like it. Call it card yeah yeah uh.
And Keana you saw it as well.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yes, I did your thoughts. I I loved it. I'm
the same way with Steph, Like, I'm not super into it.
I'm not like knowledgeable on everything, but I went in
knowing the general idea of you know, the certain cameos
and the certain Easter eggs that were placed throughout the movie,
and so the entire time I'm sitting there pointing at
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the screen like.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh, do you see that?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
We'll look at that, and it's just like now I
want to go see it for a second time and
truly appreciate the whole movie again because it is so
worth seeing a second and third time, fourth time whatever.
And the music amazing. Who knew you could put pop
songs to gore like It's great.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's part reason why we said a lot of
the movies made today we're not going to have They
didn't have to stay in power, they weren't going to
stay in theaters longer than thirty days, and they didn't
inspire you to see it two and three times. This
movie you have to see multiple times because either people
we're laughing over certain lines or you miss certain references.
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There's visual humor and their visual easter eggs that if
you're not looking in that direction of the screen at
that time, you will miss it. There are plenty of
reasons to see it multiple times. I've only seen it once.
I plan to see it at least two more times
and then go scour the internet for all the easter eggs.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It's so satisfying, especially, I mean, we have to admit,
Marvel's had a spotty recent few years. And I've talked
not long ago about going back and watching endgames, say
is comfort viewing whatever phase they were in this last one.
This is the answer to all that. It's completely, completely satisfying.
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There's not going to be any moment where you're like, oh, really,
no love in this movie, none at all.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
It makes me excited for what's to come next, especially
after seeing this movie and how like Disney is willing
to go with this kind of content now so well,
and it's I don't know, I'm excited for the future.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That is really important. People don't know this is a
hard R movie, not for kids borderline NC seventeen. If
they if they slapped an X on her, I would say, yeah,
I can see that. I could see that given the
violence in the vulgarity. It is a hard R and
it is an actual Disney movie. Disney put their name
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on it. And that was the question about Deadpool moving
over from Fox with the acquisition, whether it was going
to be a genuine Deadpool movie like we had seen
in one and two, or whether it was going to
be neutered in some way because they did have a
PG thirteen version of Deadpool, which was released for the
first movie, a.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Lot was depending on this and the fact that this
was such a massive success means that they're going to
loosen up in the future with content like this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
They made almost a half a billion dollars in four days.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Money will convince a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Days, and producer Canna talked about it made her excited
for things to come. Well, when we come back, we're
going to talk about the Marvel Comic Con presentation where
they gave us a little glimpse of what was to come,
and it's actually controversial about whether people are going to
buy into it or not. And also some of the
other revelations from Comic Con.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and beyond.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just the success of Deadpool and Wolverine, which was shown
at Comic Con to the captive audience there people who
are sleeping out at Hall H and if you haven't
been to Comic Con, Hall H is where they have
the big presentations. The big studios will bring out the
cast of movies which we're going to be coming out
in the near future or they'll make big surprises. They
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will show you portions of an upcoming movie, highly anticipated movie,
or they'll show you they'll debut a trailer. Everything happens
in hall H. Like if you saw the movie The
Fall Guy and Mark Runner. I finally got to see
it last night.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh oh. And in the Fall Guide they talk.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
About Comic Con and hall H throughout it, So it's
become meta in many ways.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, would you believe I have never endured hall Ah
because I knew how miserable it was going to be,
and I just decided there's no reason to because one
thing that I don't think a lot of people understand
is you can get all that stuff on YouTube. I
watched the whole Marvel presentation from hall H on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well that's been a change.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It used to be where people had to sneak in
phones and cameras and they wouldn't let you. And then
they finally realized, wait a minute, okay, let.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It premiere at hall Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But then they legally, officially and intentionally put up a
good copy of it online.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
That redounced to everybody benefit that they do that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, and you know what, And we were talking to
David Glands or who runs Comic Con, and they had
been especially because of the pandemic, but they've always wanted
to incorporate some sort of streaming option because it's impossible
to get tickets by and large to actually get there,
and you don't want to leave everyone out who wants
to participate in some way.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh no, and you have to understand it's a nightmare
waiting for hours or staying overnight. Whatever do you want
to do that? I wouldn't know of doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I've been in hall h two or three times.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
One of the times I had a pass because we
were going to be I'm sorry, Mark, we were getting
ready to interview William Shatner, and so they let us in.
He had a hall Ah presentation for his graphic novel
and then he took us to an anti room to
interview him. So we got to see his hall Ah presentation.
And the other time I think I just walked in there.
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I can't remember what it was. It was one of
the more minor ones, not for the big I will
say Saturday type show hall age things.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I am happy for you more than I'm jealous of you.
With Shatner, well, it's not too late. That was a lie.
Did you not see right through that line? He's a
complete line.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're insincere just about with everything you say. Okay, good,
I'm gonna lead run. On the same page on that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mentioned Hallh because there was another major announcement in
the world of film and Marvel movies. There was a
discussion of where Marvel was going because they had just
shown Deadpool and Wolverine and the let me put it
this way, we knew that there was going to be
the inclusion of a character by the name of doctor Doom.
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And you've seen them in various iterations of the Fantastic
Four movies and it's never gone Overwhell. They've never gotten
it right. They've never gotten it right, they've never had
the right actor, they've never had the right script. And
so with the new version of the Fantastic Four coming
out next year, it was unclear who was going to
be playing Doctor Doom. And this is the announcement which
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was made at Comic Con regarding who was going to
be playing Doctor Doom.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Ladies and gentlemen, as proof of the unimaginable possibilities in
the Marvel multi universe, we give you the one person
who could play Victor von Doom.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
New mask, same task, and it's revealed to be Robert
Downey Jr. And it's been had a mixed response, mixed
response among nerds.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And if you don't know very quickly, Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Obviously played Iron Man and his character Tony Stark was
killed off in Avengers End Game in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, if Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Is gonna be playing Victor von Doom Doctor Doom in
the Fantastic four portion of the Marvel Cinematic universe, won't
that be confusing? Well, not to go too deep, there
is a version of Tony Stark who ends up turning
into doctor Doom, a variant. But I don't want to
get too deep. It could work, But people wonder who
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weren't supportive of this thought it might have been a
little lazy to recycle RDJ for a role like this
where they should have gotten or could have gotten, someone
like Killian Murphy, for example.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I actually spent quite a bit of time over the
weekend looking at the responses to this combing through Twitter.
To call it an ambivalent response overall would be rather kind.
What would you played? The big audience reaction what was
your reaction in the moment. I was surprised. I knew
in my heart of hearts that Robert Downey Jr. Meant
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too much to the Marvel brand to not reinsert him,
and this is going to be real, real inside baseball.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They also announced two movies.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's going to be Avengers five, which is Doomsday, which
will obviously have Robert Downey Jr. But there's also they're
going to have Avenger six, which is Secret Wars.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Real quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Secret Wars is basically everybody fighting everybody, which means there
was an opportunity to bring back Robert Downey Junior in
the form of Tony Stark later on.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I thought they would have done that at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This doesn't preclude it, and I don't want to get
into how it would work out, but there's a lot
of nerd levels to go down. I just thought, I
trust the Russell brothers who did Avengers Endgame and Infinity War.
They're also directing these Avengers movies. I trust them, and
I trust Marvel to know more than me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I guess I trust them because those other movies are
so well done. But I have to admit that I
was just sitting there going uh okay. When our DJ
took off the mask and that was the big reveal,
I was like, well, I'm sure they know what they're doing,
but doesn't this kind of cheapen Iron Man's death, which
was a really well done thing an endgame.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It does, but also Marvel has been known to lie
and deceive at these hall h presentations. I don't and
Doctor Doom is more effective when you don't know who
it is. For him to take off the mask at
that point says to me, there might be some sleight
of hand going on. Yeah, you could be right, because
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we never see Doctor Doom's face. He's running around since
what Fantastic four number five in the early sixties, and
they showed him in the movies, which kind of killed
it for everybody. You're not supposed to know who he
is in advance.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, that's his whole deal.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Doctor Doomb doesn't show his face. It's like Judge Dread
not showing his face, and we all know how that
Sylvester Stalloon Mo movie turned out when he did. Right,
you don't want that. That's why I think there might
be some misdirection to this. But we'll talk about it
more because we have a bunch of other non Marvel
revelations which came out of Comic Con. So if you're
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just a movie fan, you should get excited. A lot
of great news. We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (18:55):
Some of the other big reveals coming out of Comic Con,
we told you about Rob Downey Junior, who's returning to
the Marvel Cinematic universe, not as Tony Stark, but as
Doctor Doom. They also announced the Fantastic Four movie in
its title First Steps, which will premiere July twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And if you saw the movie The.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Batman which came out in twenty twenty two, the Matt
Reeves movie with what's his name Robert Pattins Robert Pattinson,
right that movie The Batman, there is going to be
a spin off series which is called The Penguin. And
if you remember the movie, Colin Ferrell played the Penguin
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with all that makeup, he was unrecognizable. Well, the series
is going to be coming to HBO on September nineteenth,
and they premiered the trailer at Comic Con.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And if you're a fan of the Boys. We are
a fan of the Boys. Here there's going to be
a prequel to The Boys called Vaught Rising talking about
the company which started creating these superheroes which have gone bad,
and that is going to be I don't know if
they set a date for that, but it is in production,
and it's going to go back to the nineteen fifties,
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to the early days of the corporation and how it
came to be.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm not a big fan of prequels because I like
to see where a story is going, not how we
got here.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But I will tune into it because I like the
Boy's story writing.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Did you like gen V?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I did, And part of the reason why I liked
it is because everything which happened there was consequential.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It tied directly into The Boys, and then the.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Story happenings of gen V was tied back into the
Boys for This Boy season four.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, I found it pretty watchable.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I didn't think it was the kind of masterpiece that
the main The Boys series has become.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
No, not at all, definitely worth watching now.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It didn't because they were all brand new characters, didn't
have any type of history with any of them, and
you didn't know where it was going or whether it
was going to be meaningful. It turned out it was meaningful,
and what happened during that show mattered for what happened
during The Boys.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You also can't overstate the impact of Carl Urban and
Anthony Starr. They're so terrific in that show.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
They've grown into their roles.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I think Anthony Starr has embodied Homelander hopefully won't get
typecast because of it, and Carl Urban seems like he's
having more fun as an actor than ever before.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think The Boys is leading people to discover Starr's
previous show, Bansheet, which is terrific all except for the
final season, but the first what three maybe unbelievably good show.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I wonder what awaits them in the future. You think.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know that the series is supposed to come to
an end next year, but it is so popular. I
don't know if they can get away with not doing
a movie at this point.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
It's not the American way. It's always you squeeze every
last dime you can out of everything. You don't just
let something go when there's enough. Americans don't understand the
word enough. That's not American greatness.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So you're saying, I'm gonna get my Boys movie.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You're gonna get the Boys until they're all soaking their teeth,
and so are we? Well, we know we're gonna get
a gen V movie. Probably so and we're probably both
gonna watch it together too. Oh, yes we are, Yes
we are. And if you're a fan of Dexter, that
wasn't a show. I never really got into Dexter. Really,
I never missed an episode. You're a horror guy, I
remember that. But I will say this the final one
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that they had in which spoiler Dexter is killed at
the end of the series. It's the worst character death
since Captain Kirk's in that awful Star Trek film.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's interesting that you said that they killed him at
the end of that series, because there's a new sequels
series which is going to a premiere next summer in
twenty twenty five, called Dexter Resurrection.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right, I won't be watching it.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I think, honestly, though, you would like Dexter because it's
not horror. It's actually really smart. The way it goes
down and the way he you know, has to like
navigate being a serial killer but has to you know,
put his urges in the right spot. I thought it
was really well done. It's a serial.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Killer who goes after bad guys, so he's found a
direction to channel his impulses. And what is it not
like I get Michael Seahall, I keep on getting mixed
up with Anthony Michael.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Hall right like that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That'd be a great breakfast club iteration. But if the
nerd kid starts taking people out but he's uh, he's
that is like his signature role. He's terrific in that role.
His narration is wonderful, and he's going to be narrating
the prequel show of Young Dexter as well.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So, you know, a lot of good stuff came out
of Comic Con. Some of the stuff I'm looking forward to.
Other I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Saw, on an unrelated note, saw a really good movie
on Max today called Knox Goes Away.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh, I didn't know that was streaming yet.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes, Michael Michael Keaton, Yeah, I've been looking forward.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
To starring and directing it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's about a contract killer who was dealing with a
form of dementia, and there was a similar themed movie
with what's his name Liam Neeson not too long ago
about another contract killer who was going through dementia. But
this is much better, and it's it's it's it's story
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and also its exposition.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And it's streaming on Max.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And I don't have to shell out a bunch of
extra dough for it that you buried the lead.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, no you don't. You don't have to spend a
dollar if you already have Max. And it's it's it's
not real complicated. It's just I think it's maybe an
hour and a half. It's not that long. Yeah, it
was really good. And Michael Michael Keaton, he stars and directs,
so you can tell this is his baby, his vision,
and he does dark so well, this is not brooding dark,
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but it's dark enough.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He's a contract killer. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Okay, I will see that on yours say so. Also
I wanted to see it anyway. Oh well, so I
get none of that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I get nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I'm not going to get any of this credit just
for the heads up that it's on Max.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Now A plus on that. Yeah, and I stumbled across it.
I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's just like I opened up Max once every three
months or something.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
There are a few films that looked like they didn't
absolutely kill it in the theaters that just kind of
slipped quietly onto cable or onto streaming in the last
couple of weeks, including that one that we just wanted
out of our misery because we saw the previews for
it for months and months and months.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That tennis movie with Challengers.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's finally streaming now too. But
I didn't know that Knock Schools. What was even in theaters?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't. I don't even remember it on either.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
And until you describe the thing, I actually just watched
the trailer this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It does look really good. Yeah, recommend spending a little
time with it. And is Michael Keaton?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I man, look, can you really go wrong with Michael Keaton?
If if you don't love Michael Keaton, you must move
to Russia.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, that's law. I don't make the rules.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He's just one of those quality actors where if he's
doing something, most likely I'm going to watch it. And
you know what, I think an undervalued movie that he
did back in the day, Pacific Heights, No White Noise.
Oh yeah, yeah, I like that. It didn't do anything
in theaters. They had a BS sequel which had nothing
to do with.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
The original, and uh huh, I saw White Noise at
a drive in I remember it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A great premise and it just didn't connect with audiences unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm a big fan of going back and watching movies
that didn't wind up being hits in their time, but
they're still worth watching. And there's your advertisement for to
be right there. It's full of stuff like that. I
like discovering and rediscovering those movies. Well, what does that
teach us about movies?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
A lot of times it has to do with timing
and marketing, not necessarily how good or bad a movie is.
If it lands on the wrong weekend, if it's not
marketing the right way, not enough people are going to
see it, and it's largely forgotten.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And there's tons of fantastic movies that weren't hits right
when they came out, Like William Friedkin's Sorcerer was a
big bomb when it came out because it came out
the same summer as Star Wars and people didn't want
to deal with a big, heavy downer of a movie
like that. Citizen Kane didn't even win the oscar? How
green was my Valley?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
On it?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
And if you can name me five friends of yours
who have seen how Green was My Valley?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
While you're a.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Liar, I can only name one, and that's you. No,
I've never seen it? Okay zero? Then yeah, zero zero.
So there's a lot of things that are worth discovering
like that. And if you only watch the big hits,
what's what's that say about you?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Uh, I'm very judicious with my time. No, it says
you're you and Mo Kelly are boring. Well, okay, I'll
accept that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
If that were the case, theoretically you'd think you would
be theoretically boring.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I am very very stingy with my time, so I
need hits. I need to be entertained.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, the world knows.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from A six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Before we get out of here, I want to let
you know that there are two meteor showers that you
will probably hear about. Not so sure you'll be able
to view them unaided, but if you're into astronomy and
you're into these types of events, this is something to
look out for. Maybe online YouTube and what have you.
The Delta Aquarids occur every year here in North America
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late summer, and the peak activity this is a meteor
shower will be happening early tomorrow morning with an expected
fifteen to twenty meteors visible per hour in the northern
hemisphere under dark skies, which means that you would have
to be away from the city most likely to have
the clearest view. And the viewing they say is even
(28:48):
better in the southern hemisphere, and the shower will last
through August twenty first. And also there will have the
Alpha excuse me, Alpha Capricornid meteor shower, which should produce
about five mete years per hour and last through August fifteenth,
And if my information is correct, both of them will
be starting very early tomorrow morning. Something I did not
(29:11):
know and did not think about. And I am a
you know, just an amateur astronomer of someone who really
gets into this stuff. Did you know, like Mark Ronald,
did you know if you want to see the meteors,
they recommend not looking at your phone prior to because
looking at your phone ruins your night vision short term.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
What about staring directly into an eclipse? There's the jury
in on that yef that ruins all of your vision,
not just your night vision. Sure, okay, yeah, I'm sure.
I think we've had differing input on that. I don't
think there's anything to discuss. I think that's settled at
this point as far as settled science. If you should
look into the sun for whatever reason it it, there's
(29:54):
a great propensity and possibility of it permanently ruining your eyesight.
I'm not going to to speak on what would possess
someone to look into the sun. No, no, thank god
you were here tonight now I know I'm just going
to say that you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Okay, all right, thank you. Have you ever looked into
the sun for a solar eclipse? Not so far.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No, it has not seemed like a judicious thing to do.
But you know, we have role models and we follow
them sometimes. I've looked at the moon at a lunar
eclipse with no real problem. I got your lunary eclips right, No, no, no, no,
please don't up your pants. Okay, all right, let me
ask you what's next on your your movie list? Because
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I said, like last night, I finally got around to
the Fall Guy. It took me a while, I'm so
glad that I got to stream it and not actually
go to the theater theater to.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
See it, meaning that you thought it sucked just like
I did.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, it had this obligatory reference to Lee Majors and
a six million dollar man, which really pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
You you don't like the streams crossed like.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
That, Well, you got to think, Okay, I know it's
an homage to Lee Majors, but it had nothing to
do with Lee Majors.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, and they had Lee Majors and Heather Thomas in
a really really tiny, almost insultingly tiny cameo. Right, And
I was never a viewer of the original Fall Guy
TV show, but in the recent months I've really become
a big fan of Heather Thomas on Twitter. I think
she's terrific and I wish they'd given her just one line.
Don't just make her stand there, give her a line.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I didn't understand this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Like, why didn't you lean into the cameo. The whole
movie is about Lee Majors, Fall Guy and you. It
was just such a passing reference, not even reference, just
you know, shot these things.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
These remakes, reboots, whatever you want to call them, of
nostalgia's stuff are all over the map like it. I
think at the time I reviewed it, it reminded me
in a bad way of the bad Starsky and Hutch
movie with Ben Stiller and whoever whatever. Yeah, it looked
like it was like the Bad I Spy remake it. Oh,
the I Spy was a war crime. It was so terrible. Yeah,
(32:05):
it's I mean, we're getting into wild wild West territory here.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, it's almost like, did you want us to take
the movie seriously or not? Because The Fall Guy presented
itself as if it wanted to be a serious movie,
and then it just it just I don't want to
give it away, but the reveal is so ridiculous that
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it ruined the whole movie.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And I didn't care about any of the characters. I
found it ridiculous. Yeah, you're exactly right. Throughout the movie,
I was thinking, Eh, just loosen up, try to have
fun with it. But no, it's insulting the stupid you.
You're not required to have fun with something that's bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I didn't believe any of it, and I believed that
more in the beginning, that this was a more serious
telling of being a stuntman. And there was going to
be a quasi love story between Ryan Gosling's character and
Emma Blunt, which is it just got to be insipid
by the time the movie was done.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh yeah, because you knew exactly what had to happen
exactly and you were it was. It's like what they
say with video games that you're like on a rail
throughout the whole thing. There's not that much likelihood of
anything off of the main plan happening. It's like you're
you're on the rail for that at the end, and
you just have to endure everything that you know is
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going to happen, and it's tedious as hell for me.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And I hope he's not listening, because I don't mean
this disrespectfully. I've never seen and I'm wrong because he's
had a fabulous career. I've never seen Ryan Gosling as
a leading man. Well, then you need to watch a
movie called Drive. I've seen it. I've seen it. I'm saying,
I think that's his best work. Okay, here we go, here,
are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Here?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It comes?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Oh gosh, another Okay, I'll give it to him. He
actually did really good in the movie. But again, droning
on and on, and they sold this as it's like
eighty synth wave fun, well not fun, but darker kind
of action movie, and then you get to it and
it's just a borfest. Even he couldn't really do that
(34:10):
well on it.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I thought it was a terrific movie, and I want
you to get the help you need so that you
can appreciate it. It's it's really good. And it's before
Nicholas Whining refin he's the director of that, it's before
he went fully insane. So I think it's awfully well done.
I just don't think of Ryan Gosling as a leading man.
I think he's great in an ensemble capacity, or would
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there other people around him.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Like in The Good Guys. Yeah, with Russell Crowe.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I mean that was so good that I'm really disappointed
that there was never any sequel to that.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I just or The Nice Guys. I'm sorry, I
know what you meant.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's just one of those things where I've never like
run to the theater to see a movie because he
was in it. He's not bad, it just he's not
compelling to make.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's all. No.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
No, I mean when when you and I were kids,
it'd be like, Hey, the new Charles Bronson movies out,
we got to go see it, no matter what it is.
I've never once felt that way about a Ryan Gosling movie.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, I'm more impressed that he ended up marrying
Eva Mendez than anything.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, points for that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that scores many more points with me than anything
he's done on screen. That was his greatest achievement. And
if I ever interview him, I want to say, what
did you say to her? What did you what did
you do a Mendez?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah? How'd you? How'd you pull that?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Be sure to highlight his inadequacies, because that makes for
the best interviews.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
That's why I love that scene. And I think you
were mentioning it with Oh no, with Will Ferrell? Was
it the New Guys? I can't remember. Yeah, good guys,
good guys.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Will Ferrell just talked about in that one scene about
how plain she is and she dresses like a hobo,
and she's like all nice and dread and she's like,
this is a meeting. You can't come in here looking
like a slob and this and that. I thought that
was like the funniest thing. That was good, But everyone
else around him is funny. It's not him being funny.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
No, no, no him. Sometimes you mentioned this because you mentioned them, Amendez. Yeah,
that's why she's so fine.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
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It exceeded every single expectation. In fact, the reported numbers
for Deadpool and Wolverine on Sunday night were two hundred
and five million domestically and four hundred and thirty eight
million worldwide. By Monday morning, they had to be readjusted
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I saw Deadpool and Wolverine Thursday night, and I can
say without a doubt, and I've been accused of recency bias,
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but I'm going to couch my comments in this way,
Deadpool and Wolverine, without hyperbole or exaggeration, probably the best MCU,
That's Marvel Cinematic Universe movie ever. And the reason I
say that is because the expectations in advance of it
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what it needed to do to I will say, resuscitate
the Marvel brand. Because people were talking about superhero fatigue.
The expectations were otherworldly for this movie, and not only
did it meet those expectations, but it shattered them. The
number of jokes about life, news, culture, Disney, Fox, the cameos.
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This is a spoiler free review. It was unmatched. I
don't know how they got so much into a movie.
It required you to follow current events having nothing to
do with superhero movies. It required you to have knowledge
of the previous movies which were on the Fox side
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of things. If you saw like the X Men movies
going back to two thousand, you were in a better
position to appreciate this movie. I cannot say enough about it.
And yes, I saw we have a Christian theme going tonight.
I saw the story about how conservative Christians are protesting
this blasphemous Deadpool and Wolverine movie.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Now this was in the trailer, so I'm not telling
you anything. Deadpool.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Ryan Reynolds character refers to himself as Marvel Jesus. He's
the one who's been sent to save the MCU and
make everything right. And in the previous versions of Deadpool,
there were some posts movie clips where he's going around
changing up the timeline, trying to fix some things that
fanboys like me have been complaining about. That sets up
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this movie, and he does more of that in this movie,
and since he's referred to himself as Marvel Jesus, some
people have gotten their ass on their shoulders and said.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That they walked out.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Now, if you actually went to the third iteration of
Deadpool and did not know it was either vulgar, there
was blasphemous, that it was borderline X rated with the
amount of violence, and only because of the utterance of
the phrase Marvel Jesus that you were offended and decided
to walk out, I can't take you seriously. I cannot
(03:22):
take you seriously because there's no way you would have
gone through this movie if any of that other stuff
bothered you. There's no way in the world. But I
loved the movie. It was funny as all get out.
There were some cameos which were completely unforeseen, and it
was it's I can understand why some people may not
have gotten all the movie because it's so meta, an
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inside nerd, the nerdology of it all, and I don't
want to say more. If you want to know more
with all the spoilers, assuming you've seen the movie, you
can go to our podcast section and at a CAFI
AM six forty dot com or wherever you download the
later with Mo Kelly podcast, we uploaded what we call
our Nerds of the round Table night, So the nerd
(04:07):
a round table, our roundtable discussion. We go through all
the Easter eggs and all the cameos and the backstory
and what each thing meant. And you can listen to
that all there with complete with profanity and spoilers.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But we're not doing that tonight. But I know Mark
Runner also saw pity. I'm ready with the profanity. Let's
let it fly, come with it. No, that's okay, No,
that's all right. Really, I'm gonna stay on the radio tonight.
Oh okay, just tonight. Foosh doesn't need to get on
the dump button.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I don't know, No, not yet. Stephan, did you get
a seat? Did you get to see it yet? Yeah?
I did? All right, Well, let's hear it.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I thought it was you kind of nailed the nail
the head because it was just like you said, there's
so much hype, there's so much expectation. It matched it
and just went even beyond that. The soundtrack was a
lot of fun, the little reveals. If you know enough
about the characters, there's a lot of fun twists in
a way I guess you could say, and those are
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some of the best moments, and of course everyone in
the theater loses their minds, and it was just a
lot of fun. Like if you just like these characters,
and if you even know just a little, because I'm
not like a huge fan like you guys, but like
I know enough that I was able to get the references. You'll, you'll,
I mean, you'll have the best time. It's awesome. Mark,
you saw it with Tuala.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I was sorry that you weren't there, But Tuala
and I were just elbowing each other and pointing at
the screen and squealing like little piglets through the whole movie.
We had so much fun. It was so satisfying. It
was just absolutely no holds barred with anything, just a
giant middle finger to everybody's notions of propriety. I wouldn't
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just single out any particular group. It's just like everybody's
fair game. And that's the kind of movie those are.
If if you want to make it your avocation or
your hobby to be offended by stuff, there's gonna be
plenty in there for you. But doesn't everybody have better
things to do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Sean Lee, the writing partner of Ryan Reynolds, Sean Levy
combined with Ryan Reynolds, I would say, and at the
risk of hyperbole, but I know how this movie's going
to be received as as we go down the road
in history. There's a very mel Brooks esque feeling to this.
It's a commentary on culture. It's a commentary on America.
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It makes fun of all of our political and social
issues of the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's all I'll say. Yeah, what if mel Brooks was
a nerd into ultra violence.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, yes, that's the only way I can describe it,
because there's so many layers to them. Move Yes, there's
just the base superhero layer of Deadpool, wo Wolverine, and.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Then you get deeper and deeper.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
As far as every reddit board chat and complain about
problems with the Marvel Cinematic universe, it's in the movie,
every single one their pop culture references, having nothing to
do with nerd culture, I'll say, with the real lives
of people.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
In the movie, I kind of think of Deadpool as
a sort of bugs bunny who also kills people with
his break in the fourth wall and his inside jokes
and his pop culture equips. If you grew up having
your personality largely formed by bugs, Bunny, this will be
very familiar to you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And also Stephan said it. The soundtrack was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
How often do you find Madonna as an earworm in
your head in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Fun?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It is that disonance because the music was so incongruous
to the.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Vulgarity and also the violence on screen.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah. I think that at this point it can be
kind of stale to ironically use a happy fun song
during violent carnage. But the way they use Madonna's like
a prayer during a real key action scene was just
a master work. I loved it and I want to
see it again.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's not a spoiler because I've used it before and
that's kind like it. Call it card yeah yeah uh.
And Keana you saw it as well.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yes, I did your thoughts. I I loved it. I'm
the same way with Steph, Like, I'm not super into it.
I'm not like knowledgeable on everything, but I went in
knowing the general idea of you know, the certain cameos
and the certain Easter eggs that were placed throughout the movie,
and so the entire time I'm sitting there pointing at
(08:24):
the screen like.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh, do you see that?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
We'll look at that, and it's just like now I
want to go see it for a second time and
truly appreciate the whole movie again because it is so
worth seeing a second and third time, fourth time whatever.
And the music amazing. Who knew you could put pop
songs to gore like It's great.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's part reason why we said a lot of
the movies made today we're not going to have They
didn't have to stay in power, they weren't going to
stay in theaters longer than thirty days, and they didn't
inspire you to see it two and three times. This
movie you have to see multiple times because either people
we're laughing over certain lines or you miss certain references.
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There's visual humor and their visual easter eggs that if
you're not looking in that direction of the screen at
that time, you will miss it. There are plenty of
reasons to see it multiple times. I've only seen it once.
I plan to see it at least two more times
and then go scour the internet for all the easter eggs.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It's so satisfying, especially, I mean, we have to admit,
Marvel's had a spotty recent few years. And I've talked
not long ago about going back and watching endgames, say
is comfort viewing whatever phase they were in this last one.
This is the answer to all that. It's completely, completely satisfying.
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There's not going to be any moment where you're like, oh, really,
no love in this movie, none at all.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
It makes me excited for what's to come next, especially
after seeing this movie and how like Disney is willing
to go with this kind of content now so well,
and it's I don't know, I'm excited for the future.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That is really important. People don't know this is a
hard R movie, not for kids borderline NC seventeen. If
they if they slapped an X on her, I would say, yeah,
I can see that. I could see that given the
violence in the vulgarity. It is a hard R and
it is an actual Disney movie. Disney put their name
(10:23):
on it. And that was the question about Deadpool moving
over from Fox with the acquisition, whether it was going
to be a genuine Deadpool movie like we had seen
in one and two, or whether it was going to
be neutered in some way because they did have a
PG thirteen version of Deadpool, which was released for the
first movie, a.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Lot was depending on this and the fact that this
was such a massive success means that they're going to
loosen up in the future with content like this.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
They made almost a half a billion dollars in four days.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Money will convince a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Days, and producer Canna talked about it made her excited
for things to come. Well, when we come back, we're
going to talk about the Marvel Comic Con presentation where
they gave us a little glimpse of what was to come,
and it's actually controversial about whether people are going to
buy into it or not. And also some of the
other revelations from Comic Con.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
When we come back, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and beyond.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Just the success of Deadpool and Wolverine, which was shown
at Comic Con to the captive audience there people who
are sleeping out at Hall H and if you haven't
been to Comic Con, Hall H is where they have
the big presentations. The big studios will bring out the
cast of movies which we're going to be coming out
in the near future or they'll make big surprises. They
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will show you portions of an upcoming movie, highly anticipated movie,
or they'll show you they'll debut a trailer. Everything happens
in hall H. Like if you saw the movie The
Fall Guy and Mark Runner. I finally got to see
it last night.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh oh. And in the Fall Guide they talk.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
About Comic Con and hall H throughout it, So it's
become meta in many ways.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, would you believe I have never endured hall Ah
because I knew how miserable it was going to be,
and I just decided there's no reason to because one
thing that I don't think a lot of people understand
is you can get all that stuff on YouTube. I
watched the whole Marvel presentation from hall H on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well that's been a change.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It used to be where people had to sneak in
phones and cameras and they wouldn't let you. And then
they finally realized, wait a minute, okay, let.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It premiere at hall Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But then they legally, officially and intentionally put up a
good copy of it online.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
That redounced to everybody benefit that they do that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, and you know what, And we were talking to
David Glands or who runs Comic Con, and they had
been especially because of the pandemic, but they've always wanted
to incorporate some sort of streaming option because it's impossible
to get tickets by and large to actually get there,
and you don't want to leave everyone out who wants
to participate in some way.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh no, and you have to understand it's a nightmare
waiting for hours or staying overnight. Whatever do you want
to do that? I wouldn't know of doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I've been in hall h two or three times.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
One of the times I had a pass because we
were going to be I'm sorry, Mark, we were getting
ready to interview William Shatner, and so they let us in.
He had a hall Ah presentation for his graphic novel
and then he took us to an anti room to
interview him. So we got to see his hall Ah presentation.
And the other time I think I just walked in there.
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I can't remember what it was. It was one of
the more minor ones, not for the big I will
say Saturday type show hall age things.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I am happy for you more than I'm jealous of you.
With Shatner, well, it's not too late. That was a lie.
Did you not see right through that line? He's a
complete line.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're insincere just about with everything you say. Okay, good,
I'm gonna lead run. On the same page on that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mentioned Hallh because there was another major announcement in
the world of film and Marvel movies. There was a
discussion of where Marvel was going because they had just
shown Deadpool and Wolverine and the let me put it
this way, we knew that there was going to be
the inclusion of a character by the name of doctor Doom.
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And you've seen them in various iterations of the Fantastic
Four movies and it's never gone Overwhell. They've never gotten
it right. They've never gotten it right, they've never had
the right actor, they've never had the right script. And
so with the new version of the Fantastic Four coming
out next year, it was unclear who was going to
be playing Doctor Doom. And this is the announcement which
(14:39):
was made at Comic Con regarding who was going to
be playing Doctor Doom.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Ladies and gentlemen, as proof of the unimaginable possibilities in
the Marvel multi universe, we give you the one person
who could play Victor von Doom.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
New mask, same task, and it's revealed to be Robert
Downey Jr. And it's been had a mixed response, mixed
response among nerds.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And if you don't know very quickly, Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Obviously played Iron Man and his character Tony Stark was
killed off in Avengers End Game in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, if Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Is gonna be playing Victor von Doom Doctor Doom in
the Fantastic four portion of the Marvel Cinematic universe, won't
that be confusing? Well, not to go too deep, there
is a version of Tony Stark who ends up turning
into doctor Doom, a variant. But I don't want to
get too deep. It could work, But people wonder who
(16:03):
weren't supportive of this thought it might have been a
little lazy to recycle RDJ for a role like this
where they should have gotten or could have gotten, someone
like Killian Murphy, for example.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I actually spent quite a bit of time over the
weekend looking at the responses to this combing through Twitter.
To call it an ambivalent response overall would be rather kind.
What would you played? The big audience reaction what was
your reaction in the moment. I was surprised. I knew
in my heart of hearts that Robert Downey Jr. Meant
(16:36):
too much to the Marvel brand to not reinsert him,
and this is going to be real, real inside baseball.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They also announced two movies.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's going to be Avengers five, which is Doomsday, which
will obviously have Robert Downey Jr. But there's also they're
going to have Avenger six, which is Secret Wars.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Real quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Secret Wars is basically everybody fighting everybody, which means there
was an opportunity to bring back Robert Downey Junior in
the form of Tony Stark later on.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I thought they would have done that at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
This doesn't preclude it, and I don't want to get
into how it would work out, but there's a lot
of nerd levels to go down. I just thought, I
trust the Russell brothers who did Avengers Endgame and Infinity War.
They're also directing these Avengers movies. I trust them, and
I trust Marvel to know more than me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I guess I trust them because those other movies are
so well done. But I have to admit that I
was just sitting there going uh okay. When our DJ
took off the mask and that was the big reveal,
I was like, well, I'm sure they know what they're doing,
but doesn't this kind of cheapen Iron Man's death, which
was a really well done thing an endgame.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It does, but also Marvel has been known to lie
and deceive at these hall h presentations. I don't and
Doctor Doom is more effective when you don't know who
it is. For him to take off the mask at
that point says to me, there might be some sleight
of hand going on. Yeah, you could be right, because
(18:12):
we never see Doctor Doom's face. He's running around since
what Fantastic four number five in the early sixties, and
they showed him in the movies, which kind of killed
it for everybody. You're not supposed to know who he
is in advance.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, that's his whole deal.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Doctor Doomb doesn't show his face. It's like Judge Dread
not showing his face, and we all know how that
Sylvester Stalloon Mo movie turned out when he did. Right,
you don't want that. That's why I think there might
be some misdirection to this. But we'll talk about it
more because we have a bunch of other non Marvel
revelations which came out of Comic Con. So if you're
(18:45):
just a movie fan, you should get excited. A lot
of great news. We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Some of the other big reveals coming out of Comic Con,
we told you about Rob Downey Junior, who's returning to
the Marvel Cinematic universe, not as Tony Stark, but as
Doctor Doom. They also announced the Fantastic Four movie in
its title First Steps, which will premiere July twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And if you saw the movie The.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Batman which came out in twenty twenty two, the Matt
Reeves movie with what's his name Robert Pattins Robert Pattinson,
right that movie The Batman, there is going to be
a spin off series which is called The Penguin. And
if you remember the movie, Colin Ferrell played the Penguin
(19:39):
with all that makeup, he was unrecognizable. Well, the series
is going to be coming to HBO on September nineteenth,
and they premiered the trailer at Comic Con.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And if you're a fan of the Boys. We are
a fan of the Boys. Here there's going to be
a prequel to The Boys called Vaught Rising talking about
the company which started creating these superheroes which have gone bad,
and that is going to be I don't know if
they set a date for that, but it is in production,
and it's going to go back to the nineteen fifties,
(20:11):
to the early days of the corporation and how it
came to be.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I'm not a big fan of prequels because I like
to see where a story is going, not how we
got here.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
But I will tune into it because I like the
Boy's story writing.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Did you like gen V?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I did, And part of the reason why I liked
it is because everything which happened there was consequential.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It tied directly into The Boys, and then the.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Story happenings of gen V was tied back into the
Boys for This Boy season four.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, I found it pretty watchable.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I didn't think it was the kind of masterpiece that
the main The Boys series has become.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
No, not at all, definitely worth watching now.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It didn't because they were all brand new characters, didn't
have any type of history with any of them, and
you didn't know where it was going or whether it
was going to be meaningful. It turned out it was meaningful,
and what happened during that show mattered for what happened
during The Boys.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You also can't overstate the impact of Carl Urban and
Anthony Starr. They're so terrific in that show.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
They've grown into their roles.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I think Anthony Starr has embodied Homelander hopefully won't get
typecast because of it, and Carl Urban seems like he's
having more fun as an actor than ever before.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think The Boys is leading people to discover Starr's
previous show, Bansheet, which is terrific all except for the
final season, but the first what three maybe unbelievably good show.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I wonder what awaits them in the future. You think.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know that the series is supposed to come to
an end next year, but it is so popular. I
don't know if they can get away with not doing
a movie at this point.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
It's not the American way. It's always you squeeze every
last dime you can out of everything. You don't just
let something go when there's enough. Americans don't understand the
word enough. That's not American greatness.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So you're saying, I'm gonna get my Boys movie.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You're gonna get the Boys until they're all soaking their teeth,
and so are we? Well, we know we're gonna get
a gen V movie. Probably so and we're probably both
gonna watch it together too. Oh, yes we are, Yes
we are. And if you're a fan of Dexter, that
wasn't a show. I never really got into Dexter. Really,
I never missed an episode. You're a horror guy, I
remember that. But I will say this the final one
(22:33):
that they had in which spoiler Dexter is killed at
the end of the series. It's the worst character death
since Captain Kirk's in that awful Star Trek film.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's interesting that you said that they killed him at
the end of that series, because there's a new sequels
series which is going to a premiere next summer in
twenty twenty five, called Dexter Resurrection.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right, I won't be watching it.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I think, honestly, though, you would like Dexter because it's
not horror. It's actually really smart. The way it goes
down and the way he you know, has to like
navigate being a serial killer but has to you know,
put his urges in the right spot. I thought it
was really well done. It's a serial.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Killer who goes after bad guys, so he's found a
direction to channel his impulses. And what is it not
like I get Michael Seahall, I keep on getting mixed
up with Anthony Michael.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Hall right like that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That'd be a great breakfast club iteration. But if the
nerd kid starts taking people out but he's uh, he's
that is like his signature role. He's terrific in that role.
His narration is wonderful, and he's going to be narrating
the prequel show of Young Dexter as well.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
So, you know, a lot of good stuff came out
of Comic Con. Some of the stuff I'm looking forward to.
Other I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Saw, on an unrelated note, saw a really good movie
on Max today called Knox Goes Away.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh, I didn't know that was streaming yet.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes, Michael Michael Keaton, Yeah, I've been looking forward.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
To starring and directing it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's about a contract killer who was dealing with a
form of dementia, and there was a similar themed movie
with what's his name Liam Neeson not too long ago
about another contract killer who was going through dementia. But
this is much better, and it's it's it's it's story
(24:26):
and also its exposition.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And it's streaming on Max.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And I don't have to shell out a bunch of
extra dough for it that you buried the lead.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, no you don't. You don't have to spend a
dollar if you already have Max. And it's it's it's
not real complicated. It's just I think it's maybe an
hour and a half. It's not that long. Yeah, it
was really good. And Michael Michael Keaton, he stars and directs,
so you can tell this is his baby, his vision,
and he does dark so well, this is not brooding dark,
(24:57):
but it's dark enough.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He's a contract killer. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Okay, I will see that on yours say so. Also
I wanted to see it anyway. Oh well, so I
get none of that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I get nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I'm not going to get any of this credit just
for the heads up that it's on Max.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Now A plus on that. Yeah, and I stumbled across it.
I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's just like I opened up Max once every three
months or something.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
There are a few films that looked like they didn't
absolutely kill it in the theaters that just kind of
slipped quietly onto cable or onto streaming in the last
couple of weeks, including that one that we just wanted
out of our misery because we saw the previews for
it for months and months and months.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That tennis movie with Challengers.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's finally streaming now too. But
I didn't know that Knock Schools. What was even in theaters?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't. I don't even remember it on either.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
And until you describe the thing, I actually just watched
the trailer this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It does look really good. Yeah, recommend spending a little
time with it. And is Michael Keaton?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I man, look, can you really go wrong with Michael Keaton?
If if you don't love Michael Keaton, you must move
to Russia.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, that's law. I don't make the rules.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He's just one of those quality actors where if he's
doing something, most likely I'm going to watch it. And
you know what, I think an undervalued movie that he
did back in the day, Pacific Heights, No White Noise.
Oh yeah, yeah, I like that. It didn't do anything
in theaters. They had a BS sequel which had nothing
to do with.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
The original, and uh huh, I saw White Noise at
a drive in I remember it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A great premise and it just didn't connect with audiences unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I'm a big fan of going back and watching movies
that didn't wind up being hits in their time, but
they're still worth watching. And there's your advertisement for to
be right there. It's full of stuff like that. I
like discovering and rediscovering those movies. Well, what does that
teach us about movies?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
A lot of times it has to do with timing
and marketing, not necessarily how good or bad a movie is.
If it lands on the wrong weekend, if it's not
marketing the right way, not enough people are going to
see it, and it's largely forgotten.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And there's tons of fantastic movies that weren't hits right
when they came out, Like William Friedkin's Sorcerer was a
big bomb when it came out because it came out
the same summer as Star Wars and people didn't want
to deal with a big, heavy downer of a movie
like that. Citizen Kane didn't even win the oscar? How
green was my Valley?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
On it?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
And if you can name me five friends of yours
who have seen how Green was My Valley?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
While you're a.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Liar, I can only name one, and that's you. No,
I've never seen it? Okay zero? Then yeah, zero zero.
So there's a lot of things that are worth discovering
like that. And if you only watch the big hits,
what's what's that say about you?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Uh, I'm very judicious with my time. No, it says
you're you and Mo Kelly are boring. Well, okay, I'll
accept that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
If that were the case, theoretically you'd think you would
be theoretically boring.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I am very very stingy with my time, so I
need hits. I need to be entertained.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, the world knows.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from A six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Before we get out of here, I want to let
you know that there are two meteor showers that you
will probably hear about. Not so sure you'll be able
to view them unaided, but if you're into astronomy and
you're into these types of events, this is something to
look out for. Maybe online YouTube and what have you.
The Delta Aquarids occur every year here in North America
(28:25):
late summer, and the peak activity this is a meteor
shower will be happening early tomorrow morning with an expected
fifteen to twenty meteors visible per hour in the northern
hemisphere under dark skies, which means that you would have
to be away from the city most likely to have
the clearest view. And the viewing they say is even
(28:48):
better in the southern hemisphere, and the shower will last
through August twenty first. And also there will have the
Alpha excuse me, Alpha Capricornid meteor shower, which should produce
about five mete years per hour and last through August fifteenth,
And if my information is correct, both of them will
be starting very early tomorrow morning. Something I did not
(29:11):
know and did not think about. And I am a
you know, just an amateur astronomer of someone who really
gets into this stuff. Did you know, like Mark Ronald,
did you know if you want to see the meteors,
they recommend not looking at your phone prior to because
looking at your phone ruins your night vision short term.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
What about staring directly into an eclipse? There's the jury
in on that yef that ruins all of your vision,
not just your night vision. Sure, okay, yeah, I'm sure.
I think we've had differing input on that. I don't
think there's anything to discuss. I think that's settled at
this point as far as settled science. If you should
look into the sun for whatever reason it it, there's
(29:54):
a great propensity and possibility of it permanently ruining your eyesight.
I'm not going to to speak on what would possess
someone to look into the sun. No, no, thank god
you were here tonight now I know I'm just going
to say that you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Okay, all right, thank you. Have you ever looked into
the sun for a solar eclipse? Not so far.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No, it has not seemed like a judicious thing to do.
But you know, we have role models and we follow
them sometimes. I've looked at the moon at a lunar
eclipse with no real problem. I got your lunary eclips right, No, no, no, no,
please don't up your pants. Okay, all right, let me
ask you what's next on your your movie list? Because
(30:34):
I said, like last night, I finally got around to
the Fall Guy. It took me a while, I'm so
glad that I got to stream it and not actually
go to the theater theater to.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
See it, meaning that you thought it sucked just like
I did.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, it had this obligatory reference to Lee Majors and
a six million dollar man, which really pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
You you don't like the streams crossed like.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
That, Well, you got to think, Okay, I know it's
an homage to Lee Majors, but it had nothing to
do with Lee Majors.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, and they had Lee Majors and Heather Thomas in
a really really tiny, almost insultingly tiny cameo. Right, And
I was never a viewer of the original Fall Guy
TV show, but in the recent months I've really become
a big fan of Heather Thomas on Twitter. I think
she's terrific and I wish they'd given her just one line.
Don't just make her stand there, give her a line.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I didn't understand this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Like, why didn't you lean into the cameo. The whole
movie is about Lee Majors, Fall Guy and you. It
was just such a passing reference, not even reference, just
you know, shot these things.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
These remakes, reboots, whatever you want to call them, of
nostalgia's stuff are all over the map like it. I
think at the time I reviewed it, it reminded me
in a bad way of the bad Starsky and Hutch
movie with Ben Stiller and whoever whatever. Yeah, it looked
like it was like the Bad I Spy remake it. Oh,
the I Spy was a war crime. It was so terrible. Yeah,
(32:05):
it's I mean, we're getting into wild wild West territory here.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, it's almost like, did you want us to take
the movie seriously or not? Because The Fall Guy presented
itself as if it wanted to be a serious movie,
and then it just it just I don't want to
give it away, but the reveal is so ridiculous that
(32:29):
it ruined the whole movie.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And I didn't care about any of the characters. I
found it ridiculous. Yeah, you're exactly right. Throughout the movie,
I was thinking, Eh, just loosen up, try to have
fun with it. But no, it's insulting the stupid you.
You're not required to have fun with something that's bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I didn't believe any of it, and I believed that
more in the beginning, that this was a more serious
telling of being a stuntman. And there was going to
be a quasi love story between Ryan Gosling's character and
Emma Blunt, which is it just got to be insipid
by the time the movie was done.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh yeah, because you knew exactly what had to happen
exactly and you were it was. It's like what they
say with video games that you're like on a rail
throughout the whole thing. There's not that much likelihood of
anything off of the main plan happening. It's like you're
you're on the rail for that at the end, and
you just have to endure everything that you know is
(33:24):
going to happen, and it's tedious as hell for me.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And I hope he's not listening, because I don't mean
this disrespectfully. I've never seen and I'm wrong because he's
had a fabulous career. I've never seen Ryan Gosling as
a leading man. Well, then you need to watch a
movie called Drive. I've seen it. I've seen it. I'm saying,
I think that's his best work. Okay, here we go, here,
are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Here?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It comes?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Oh gosh, another Okay, I'll give it to him. He
actually did really good in the movie. But again, droning
on and on, and they sold this as it's like
eighty synth wave fun, well not fun, but darker kind
of action movie, and then you get to it and
it's just a borfest. Even he couldn't really do that
(34:10):
well on it.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I thought it was a terrific movie, and I want
you to get the help you need so that you
can appreciate it. It's it's really good. And it's before
Nicholas Whining refin he's the director of that, it's before
he went fully insane. So I think it's awfully well done.
I just don't think of Ryan Gosling as a leading man.
I think he's great in an ensemble capacity, or would
(34:31):
there other people around him.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Like in The Good Guys. Yeah, with Russell Crowe.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I mean that was so good that I'm really disappointed
that there was never any sequel to that.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I just or The Nice Guys. I'm sorry, I
know what you meant.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's just one of those things where I've never like
run to the theater to see a movie because he
was in it. He's not bad, it just he's not
compelling to make.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's all. No.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
No, I mean when when you and I were kids,
it'd be like, Hey, the new Charles Bronson movies out,
we got to go see it, no matter what it is.
I've never once felt that way about a Ryan Gosling movie.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, I'm more impressed that he ended up marrying
Eva Mendez than anything.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, points for that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that scores many more points with me than anything
he's done on screen. That was his greatest achievement. And
if I ever interview him, I want to say, what
did you say to her? What did you what did
you do a Mendez?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah? How'd you? How'd you pull that?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Be sure to highlight his inadequacies, because that makes for
the best interviews.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
That's why I love that scene. And I think you
were mentioning it with Oh no, with Will Ferrell? Was
it the New Guys? I can't remember. Yeah, good guys,
good guys.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Will Ferrell just talked about in that one scene about
how plain she is and she dresses like a hobo,
and she's like all nice and dread and she's like,
this is a meeting. You can't come in here looking
like a slob and this and that. I thought that
was like the funniest thing. That was good, But everyone
else around him is funny. It's not him being funny.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
No, no, no him. Sometimes you mentioned this because you mentioned them, Amendez. Yeah,
that's why she's so fine.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
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