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July 18, 2024 53 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on Rep. Adam Schiff joining 21 other Democratic members of Congress calling for President Biden to step down, and abandon his 2024 Presidential Bid…PLUS – An in-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in “The Viral Load” with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs AND Thoughts on a new study that reveals “two in five Americans say they’re open to a random hook-up this summer vacation season — even if they in a relationship” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI Am six forty and
the end of the r n CNight three. Just happened. Jd Vance,
Ohio senator now vice presidential nominee.He gave his first speech. The

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reviews they're coming in. I'll letyou guys decide whether he did very well
or very poorly. And I willsaying last segment, A lot of that
will be predicated on the donor,the fundraising, the polling. If either
of those should shift considerably, thenyou'll have a good sense of the impact

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of jd Vance's speech. But therewas a counter narrative, a counter i
should say, a counter story towhat was happening in Milwaukee. If you
know by now, you should knowby now that President Joe Biden has been
diagnosed with COVID and he had tocancel his engagement today. You probably heard
that in the KFI newsroom. WithJoe Biden having to cancel his speaking engagement,

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it puts a different face on therace right now. If anything,
you have to wonder whether Joe Bidenwill be able to continue, if only
because he's eighty one and a coldis never just a cold. And COVID
is never just COVID. That's wherethe math is inarguable, and it may

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take him longer to recover. Andwhen you're talking about being on the campaign
trail, every day does matter.But if it were just COVID and we
didn't have that disastrous debate, ifit was just COVID and we didn't have
the events of Saturday, then youcould look at it just in a vacuum.

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But you can't. You have tolook at it as part of a
larger continuum, this larger pattern ofmomentum, if you will, for the
Republican Party and Donald Trump. Andthere's also the negative momentum which is being
generated within the Democratic Party. I'mtalking about Congressman Adam Schiff. Today he
became the twenty first Democrat and twentyfirst member of Congress to publicly call for

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President Joe Biden to step aside.And you'll read some reports and you'll say
he's calling from the step down.No, no, no, there is
a distinction with the difference step aside, not step down. Step aside means
have someone else be the Democratic nominee, not step down as in step down
from the presidency. So Adam Schiffis asking Joe Biden to step aside.

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Quote, and this is in awritten statement. Quote. Joe Biden has
been one of the most consequential presidentsin our nation's history, and his lifetime
of service as a senator, avice president, and now as president has
made our country better. But ournation is at a crossroads. A second
Trump presidency will undermine the very foundationof our democracy, and I, Adam

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Schiff, have serious concerns about whetherthe president can defeat Donald Trump in November.
Close quote Did you catch that lastpart? That's very important. He
says, I have serious concerns aboutwhether the president can defeat Donald Trump in
November. He didn't say that JoeBiden couldn't do the job. He didn't

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say that Joe Biden was unable todo the job for the next four years.
He only explicitly said, I haveserious concerns about whether the president can
defeat Donald Trump in November. Andthat's really important. And that's why the
Democrats are all beside themselves. Thisis what I mean if you vow to

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public pressure, if Joe Biden shouldvow to public pressure, because twenty one
Democrats, that's not a majority.That's a handful in the grand scheme of
things. If you have twenty oneindividuals who can and leverage out, force
out encourage the presumptive Democratic nominee tostep aside, then you would be undermining

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the will of the Democratic voters whovoted in Joe Biden as the presumptive nominee.
We had all those primaries, andyou would be telling those voters,
you know what, no, no, no, no no. Because people
like Adam Schiff said, I haveserious concerns about whether the president can defeat
Donald Trump in November. That's somethingcompletely different. And if Joe Biden were

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to step aside, not step down, but step aside, and Democratic voters
felt that, wait a minute,the Democratic Party, they're doing some shenanigans.
I voted for Joe and the primaries, we had all these presidential primary
contests. I voted for Joe.You guys wanted Dean Phillips or someone else,

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but he didn't win. Joe Bidenwon those primaries. And if Democratic
voters feel some kind of way abouttheir vote being negated, then you have
an intra party riot literally on thefloor of the convention next month in August.
That's a problem. And if youwere, let's say, hypothetically,

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were to push Joe Biden aside andthen put Governor Gavin Newsom at the top
of the ticket, then you'd haveanother problem because people who do support Vice
President Kamala Harris, and a lotof people do, despite what some will
tell you, you'd have another reasonfor Democratic voters to feel disaffected, because

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the whole point of having a vicepresident and a vice presidential candidate is to
succeed or supplant the president or presidentialcandidate. And if you were to have
someone leapfrog her, you'd have anotherissue on the floor of the convention.
So the Democrats really don't know whatto do. They're not in love with

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Joe Biden, I get it.They don't know what to do to have
him be the person to step aside. It has to be Joe's idea.
You ever see that movie Inception,Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
It has to be Joe's idea.It has to at least seem as
if Joe decided on his own,without public prodding, without political prodding,

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to step aside. Because if itseems like feels like that, the Democrats
be it. Former Speaker in NancyPelosi, Adam Schiff, or other influential
Democrats. We're ganging up on Joe, or conspiring against Joe, or somehow
undermining the will of Democratic voters.Then you just have an all out free

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for all, and either voters revoltagainst the Democratic Party or they stay home.
That's why I was talking about thereare no good options for the Democrats.
They have to choose the best ofthe bad options available. Now.
I know there's someone out there whowants to say that this is some conspiracy
to give Joe Biden an off ramp. I don't know about that. There

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were plenty off ramps. He cantake any of them. He doesn't need
to create a reason to say,you know what, I don't think I'm
up to this. He doesn't needHe doesn't need to create the specter of
COVID or some other medical issue oremergency to say I've come to the decision
that I would rather spend the restof my life as a private citizen.

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He doesn't need to create a reason. Okay, one doesn't have to be
created for him, but the ideahas to be from him. Voters have
to believe that he's choosing to stepaside, because anything else equals chaos.
That's what's quietly going on behind thescenes. And I always say, if

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someone like Adam Schiff is saying thispublicly, they're probably saying ten times worse
things privately. You're listening to Laterwith Moe Kelly on demand from KFI A
sixty, and it's happened again.You shouldn't be surprised. I mean,
I'm not surprised, and if you'velistened to this show, you damn sure

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should not be surprised. When youhear the Berlin song Metro, you know
somebody got their ass whooped on Metro. Maybe they got stabbed, maybe they
got shot. Maybe they got theass whooped then stabbed, then shot got
a three for I don't know.I just know when I hear that music,
something bad happened on the Metro.We never play that for good news,

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and we're not going to break formright now. I think Berlin might
have a case against you for buildingup a Pavlovian response to their song fair
use, fair use, Okay,I'm not selling anything with it. Metro
bus driver was assaulted in downtown LAearly this morning. LAPD confirmed that officers

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responded to reports of an assault inthe area of Broadway and Seventh Street just
before one five am, and letme stop there. I haven't ridden a
metro bus in forever. I usuallyride would ride the trains or subway,
but I didn't know the bus wouldrun that late. I'm really surprised.
I thought, you know, itwas like by midnight or you're just sol

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as they say, out of luck. But well on in the morning.
It's one thing to ride the busat one forty five in the morning.
It's another thing to be driving abus at one forty five in the morning,
because for the most part, whoevergets on the bus is suspect.
For the most part, they're notgoing to work or coming from work.

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For the most part, I knowthere are people who do work a night
shift or an overnight and they maytake public transit. But for the most
part, I don't have any datato support this. I'm just spitballing,
but I'm inclined to believe that thereare a lot of n'er dwells and questionable
individuals who are trying to get ona bus at one forty five in the

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morning. When officers arrived, theylocated the bus driver who was assaulted.
The extent of the injuries is notcurrently known, and video posted to the
citizen app shows that someone was receivingmedical treatment on the sidewalk. But this
goes back to what I said before. And I've said it before, and
maybe you didn't believe me before,but I think you should believe me now

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because this has proven me right.I said. If you are going to
work as a metro bus operator,if you were going to work as a
metro train operator, you have tohave the affirmative discussion with yourself when you
open your eyes in the morning andyou roll over and kiss your spouse and
you think about what your day isgoing to have for you, what is

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waiting for you? You have tohave that affirmative discussion. Am I going
to have to whoop somebody's ass todayat work? Am I am going to
Am I going to have to fightfor my life today or again today?
We're making the assumption that is onlygoing to happen to to one employee on
one occasion. I'm quite sure there'ssome repeat offenders and there's some repeat victims.

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I don't know how I would processthat if each and every day I
have to actively prepare myself for theprospect of violence at my job when violence
is not even supposed to be partof my job. It's one thing.
If you're working as a waiter orwaitress, you know that you're going to

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have customers who are a holes.You're going to have people who are rude
to you. You're gonna have peoplewho are disrespectful, You're gonna have people
who are dismissive and condescending. Whythat kind of comes with the job.
But if you're driving a bus,if you are operating a train, I
don't think anywhere in the manual itsays, well, let's deal with someone
who should brandish a knife, orlet's deal with someone who refuses to get

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off and wants to start a fightwith you. Let's deal with someone who's
trying to take your glasses and getinto a full on street ball brawl with
you. I don't know if thatis actually part of the training. Maybe
it is now, maybe they areanticipating that. Hey, you know,
if you're gonna work at seven eleven, you gotta know you're probably gonna get

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robbed. And if you are workingas a bus operator, you have to
know that you have to keep youreyes on the road, and keep your
eyes on the passengers, and keepyour eyes on the street, because every
time you open up that door,someone may come on with that intentions and
mean you and or passengers harm.I don't know in the training they go

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did they go over the possible almostlikely scenario that someone may start shooting on
the bus. I don't know.Maybe they have those special seminars. You
know, where you're at work andyou have someone coming from out of town,
and they sit all of you downand they have the specialists come in
and they teach you one skill forthe day, and you spend six hours
learning how to tie your shoes,learning how to send your email, learning

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how to de escalate a problem withyour superior. You learn one thing.
Maybe it's like that at Metro wherethey'll bring in some sort of psychologists and
say, Okay, this is whatyou need to do when someone's trying to
whoop your ass in hell ex hell, do not try to aggravate or antagonize
the homeless would be attacker. Idon't know what they tell them, but

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I know after the first or secondtime that I have to fight the customers.
I'm quitting because that means either thatperson eventually is going to die or
I'm going to die because I can'tdo my job and worry about if someone
is going to maim me, stabme, hurt me, hurt someone who's

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on the bus who can't defend himor herself. I can't do that job.
Don't tell me that they pay themenough. Don't tell me that there
is enough money to put up withthat. Every single day, I've been
talking about Metro for the past yearand a half, and not a week
goes by without a story of someonegetting stabs, shot, or killed.
Not a week goes by, andusually it's the Metro employee. I'm not

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making it up. The facts arethe facts, The stats are the stats.
The reality is the reality. Itis a dangerous job in the middle
of a dangerous city. And Ifeel sorry for anyone who's driving the bus
at one forty five in the morningbecause nothing good happens after midnight. Didn't
your mother ever tell you that?I know. My mother always told me,
told me that why are you goingout now? Nothing good happens after

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midnight? And I always had tocorrect my mother. If you knew where
I was going, something good isgonna happen, and it's gonna be after
midnight. You damn skippy. Haveyou seen a booty on her? No?
If you did, you would understandfive son, I five? Yeah.
My dad was like, yeah,do what you need to do,
you know, make sure you doit well. For the family name.

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That was my dad. No,no, no, he wasn't joking.
He was serious. Represent okay becauseI had the same first name as my
father, and it's like, no, no, no, no, I
don't want no BDR coming back.Uh, you know what a BDR is?
Mark, don't you? I donot? Elmard. Do you know
what a BDR is? Okay,tivity hobbs. The viral load is coming

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up in just minutes. Do youknow what a BDR is? Yes?
I do. I've given a few. Okay. If a man does not
perform well, she will give abad D report. Oh review, okay,
okay. So the expectations were highin my family. You know,

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if you're gonna leave the house andyou're gonna do something after midnight. Oh
I told the story out of order. When I was still living in my
family's house, I had a curfew. Even after I graduated college. My
mother was very strict. She madeit very clear, as long as you
live in this house, you're notgonna be coming in the house at two
in the am or something like that, because her feeling was she always needed

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to know one she could lock upthe house and not expect anyone coming in
her front door at some ungodly hour. So I always had a curfew.
And the understanding was if I wasgoing to leave at twelve o'clock at night,
oh I was not coming back,and she was not gonna let me
back in the house. Don't tryto, you know, disarm the alarm

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and come in the house, becausethe assumption is you're an intruder at that
point, because anyone who's supposed tobe in the house is already in the
house. And so my father wouldpat me on the back, Siddeen,
you know, make the family nameproud. Nobody wants a BDR now,
you know. See you're half black. You need to at least know half
of these things. I'm working onit. I need your help. Tiffany

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Hobbs and a viral load coming upnext. Kf I Am six forty were
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app CanKiddy, She'll talk about the Imus six

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forties later with mo Kelly Live Everywherein the iHeartRadio app. Now it's Talk
for the Viral Load with Tiffany Hobbs. Well, I know everyone around the
country has been keyeded and paying attentionto what's going on at the Republican National
Convention, and because of that,I have some breaking no viral node,
viral load news about what happened atthe convention. Would you like to hear

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it? Absolutely? I was wonderinghow social media was responding. Social media
is definitely divided. It's polarizing,as we can imagine. But what everyone
on social media, or what manypeople have been talking about, is what
they've been noticing visually, and whatthey're noticing is a number of delegates and
attendees at the Republican National Convention thelast couple of days have been wearing patches

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over their ears in solidarity with theformer president. In solidarity with former President
Trump and what happened to him onSaturday and the injury that we all now
have talked about at nauseum. Peopleare wearing patches, band aids, anything
that's indicative of some sort of earinjury in solidarity with what happened. I

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didn't even pick up on that well, because I think I was looking more
at the speeches, not the crowdand the attendees. I don't know if
you know this, but I alsosaw a lot of yellow hats. Do
you know what that was about.I don't. I don't know if that
has something to do with the specificstate or anything like that. I haven't
seen that, but I did noticeonce I started seeing on social media kind

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of the pictures roll through. Ifyou look very closely, you will see
a few people with bright white bandageson their ears. So just wanted to
start off the viral lover. Sothat is a thing. Now, it's
a thing, and it will bea thing, I imagine for a while
to come. I wonder, becausethe attempted assassination was on Saturday, and
not to diminish the wound, I'mjust saying it happened on Saturday. I

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wonder if former President Trump will stillhave the bandish Well. I know he
will, but I'm saying I don'tknow about the necessity of it five days
later when he does speak tomorrow.Optics necessity. Oh okay, let's get
to our first official story. Thefirst story comes from all over social media.
I saw it on Facebook, I'veseen it on x slash, Twitter

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and threads. What happened is there'sa story about nepotism. Summer is a
time characteristically when teenagers get temporary employment, they get seized no employment. Whether
it's at a fast food restaurant ora mall, you're overrun with teenage employees.
Well, in this particular case,there's a mother who has a few

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sons and her son's friends and theywere in need of something to do over
the summer break that was productive.This family comes out of Mississippi. They're
just outside of Jackson, Mississippi,the capital, and the mother is a
manager at Burger King. She's beena manager there for a while. She's
been doing fine, well respected employee, and she decided to hire her sons

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and their friends for a total offive teenagers at this Burger King. Oh,
I see where this is going.Well, everything was going pretty well
until the mom posted on social media, and that's where you don't live it.
Loose lips sink ships stay off ofsocial media. She was happy,

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she's kind of bragging that her sonand his friends were having something to do
over the summer they weren't just inthe streets, you know, getting into
nefarious activity as we know teenagers cando. Mo I'm sure you has your
share. I know I did whenI was a teenager. Yeah, but
it wasn't in summer because I wasworking. You can't be out of trouble.
I did as well, and that'sa that's a big impetus for holding
down a summer job. So thismom engaged in some fair nepotism. She

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hired them. Posted on social media. It went around the world because it
was a feel good story. Shewas just saying that her sons again,
that they were working. She wasjust happy. Nick Cannon, the multi
hyphen it entertainer host all of thesethings, shared it on social media.
So now this post took on awhole new angle and went extremely viral.

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Let me guess, just just getto the park where she loses her job.
It got back to her boss.I got back to upper upper management,
and they said, you are abusingyour position, you are exploiting your
connections. Therefore, we are notonly going to reprimand you, we are
going to fire all of the kidsand you. I'm not mad, but

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from a corporate standpoint, it's notwrong what they did. It's not because
it's wrong because most corporate establishments frownon hiring relatives. Yeah, especially as
direct reports. You know, therewe have people here who work together who
are related, who are husband andwife, but they're not direct reports.

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And if you are determining who getsa job and you're giving a job to
your children, that's problematic. AndI know that's probably grounds for a lawsuit
somewhere. I'm not a lawyer,but I'm sure there's some legal exposure in
there for sure. And one ofthe allegations is that the mom overpaid per
ah hell minor regulations for pay thekids. So that also just blew up

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the spot, so to speak.And again, like you said, don't
put it on social media. Thingswere going well until they got picked up
and went viral. You know,there's a way that you can share your
life without sharing your life. There'sa way you can celebrate all the things
you're doing without telling everything that you'redoing. Yeah, and we're now in
a period of society will we feelwe have to share everything from the food

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we eat, the places we go. And I could even be guilty of
it on occasion, but there's norestraint anymore, there's no line, and
there's another story that's going to takeus from this to the next. Is
a perfect segue thinking about a line, thinking about boundaries. When you think
of sharing, people share the goodand they also share the bad. And
one of the things that's been happeningand that has now gone viral, is

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that people are lying about the deathsor injuries illnesses of their dogs, specifically
online in these specialized groups dog centeredgroups or pet centered groups. Why in
the hell would they do that,well, experts say, because, of

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course, this story has gone viral, and psychologists and therapists have begun to
weigh in that this is a formof canine Munchhausen by proxy syndrome or factition
disorder. Essentially, so they justwant someone to show them some sympathy or
something they do so they're looking togarner sympathy, they're looking for attention.

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It's completely attention seeking. But what'shappened is where these things were in smaller
circles, they've now become viral asothers have shared that this person is a
fraud, this person is scamming.This person has said that they've lost their
dog, multiple times, multiple dogs, So you have a lot of interest

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and why people would do this,and also the attacking of people rightfully.
So some may say, I thinkit's warranted for wanting to exploit the kindness
and sympathies of others. Yeah,that's what the block button is for us.
I don't have any energy for peoplewho are fraud like that. Does
it offend me? Yeah? Asa dog lover and two dog furry family

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members, you know, it's like, look, I know that they're not
going to be here forever, andI rule the day in which they leave,
if they should leave, right,if they leave before I should leave.
It's the worst. But to thinksomeone is trying to prey upon,
or I should say, exploit thatfor personal emotional game. You're you're sick.

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There's something wrong with you. Youare you are that? And again,
psychologists and therapists are weighing and allonline, all over the all over
the internet. And that's again what'scaused this story to go viral because everyone
has an opinion as to why they'redoing it, but the consensus is these
people are sick. Part two ofthe viral load is coming up in just
a moment with Tiffany Hobbs. It'sLater with Mo Kelly k if I A
six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadioapp. You're listening to Later with Moe

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Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. And here's Tiffany Hobbs. Raccoons
are trying to break into cyber trucks. Oh, I believe it. That's
the headline. We could probably stopthere, but I'm gonna tell you why.
So there's a man he went camping. It's in minnes Soda. He
parked in a clearing, woke upthe next morning to all these cute little

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prints all over the trunk bed.They call it a vault in Tesla language,
a vault of the cyber truck,the rear end of the cyber truck.
Okay, do you like those?By the way, what do you
think pesthetically? No, they're notmy thing. They seem like they're not
practical. They don't serve any realutility. Like if I needed to actually

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haul something, pull something, liftsomething, I wouldn't envision a cyber truck.
But go ahead. You were saying, it's they were strange looking.
And here's where the story takes onthe viral twist. So this man takes
pictures of the vault and there's allthese little prints on him. He decides
it's probably a raccoon. He's anoutdoors man, he can identify the prince.
He uploads it to Reddit, toTwitter, everywhere you can think,

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and people start stmizing, why wouldraccoons do this to the cyber truck,
because it didn't stop at just cutelittle prints in the morning, do know
the presumably raccoons had gnawed through thetrim around the back end of the cyber
truck, causing what now probably willbe thousands of dollars and months of repairs.

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Of course, it's Tesla we howthese things happen. But what happened
was people said on Reddit, allthese cyber truck owners and aficionado said,
well, this has somewhat happened tome. I've seen animals kind of lurking
around my cyber truck when it's parkednear or possibly could be mistaken for a

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dumpster. The back end of acyber truck. When you put all the
sure of a cyber truck next toa picture of a dumpster, is uncanny.
The resemblance is uncanny. Therefore,people are saying that raccoons are mistaking
cyber trucks or dumpster? Are theymistaking? Not asked one say it kind

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of looks trashy, you know,personal opinion, I wouldn't wow something else
you'd have to worry about. Look, you're going to pay one hundred thousand
dollars for a truck that can't truckfrom what I know and have read,
and then you have to worry aboutraccoons eating it. I'm seeing all these
trucks driving around LA and they justlook so uncomfortable in traffic. They just

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don't fit. I think about thecyber truck the same idead about the hummer
when it first came on the scene. It's like, that doesn't seem like
it's practical, It doesn't seem likeit serves any purpose in a person's life.
But if you like it, knockyourself out. It's just not something
that I could ever use or whateverwant. And I feel the same way
about the cyber truck. If ifsomeone came up to me and say,

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hey, Mo, it's great atthis, or it's great at that I
can do this, you know ithelps me in my job, all right,
then but I've not heard that fromanyone. No, it's just a
visual thing. It's just that.Well, the next story has to do
with something else that I don't thinkeither one of us would engage in.
Pretty short's safe to say, andthat's because there is an unhealthy affection toward

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serial killers and other sorts of highprofile criminals that has long been in our
history. We've seen it with Dahmer, We've seen it with all of these
other people, Richard Ramirez, andall of these fan clubs and letters that
go to these people. Just recently, and Mama asked you this, do
you remember a few years ago wherethere was a man, young African American

(29:33):
man who had some tattoos on hisneck. He got into some low level
I think white collar crimes and sometheft. I don't remember what it was,
but he went to jail and womenwent nuts. Oh Jeremy Meeks.
Jeremy Meeks, you remember his name. He became a model upon his release.
Right, The newest object of affectionof many women happens to be named

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Wade Wilson. It's also the nameof Pool exactly. He's attractive. It's
a nice looking guy, save forthe numerous facial tattoos, including kind of
a zippered smile tattoo around his faceand the swastikas on his face. You
took all those things away, it'dbe a nice looking guy. Well,

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not only does he have all thesetattoos, but he has a very long
rap sheet that includes the heinous murderof two women just a few years ago.
But doesn't stop there. Wade Wilsonwent to jail for these murders,
went to prison and has been inprison awaiting kind of the finalization of his
sentence. Is it going to belife? Is it going to be death?

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And in the interim while he's beenwaiting, and this is in the
state of and I do no,No, it's okay, I say,
Lee County, but I don't knowexactly where this is. I think it's
on the East coast. So allof that to say, and and stupid
knows no bounds. Because these womenare coming from everywhere. Women have been

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flocking to Wade Wilson's letter receptacle,sending letters, sending all sorts of digital
anything they can to Wade Wilson,proposing marriage, saying that they'll be there
for him, extolling their affections.They love me so attractive. Many are
even going to the actual courthouse,the judges, the lawyers and trying to

(31:25):
appeal to them, saying, pleasedon't give him life, please don't kill
him, all of these things becauseWade Wilson is the newest kind of poster
boy for an attractive criminal, andit's all over social media. We've seen
that going back to Charles Manson.It's not new, but I'll never be

(31:45):
able to understand it how they becomethese worldwide celebrities, and with the Internet
it's even easier. Before he usedto be depended upon TV put in their
video out there. Now they putthe muck shot up in Women go Crazy,
but it doesn't usually work. Idon't know if it works like that
in reverse. I don't know ifsay Casey Anthony was receiving the same type

(32:08):
of adoration that male counterpararts were.I mean, to an extent, there's
always going to be that kind ofniche market there. She did Casey Anthony,
and women do get that sort ofattention. But I think what goes
virals are the men because there's justkind of this bad boy type of aesthetic,

(32:30):
and unfortunately, too many women areattracted to that, and again Wade
Wilson is the newest recipient of allthis attention, and they're again begging for
leniency, asking for a new trial. There are also lots of different social
media accounts dedicated to Wade Wilson himself, kind of parody accounts or pretending to

(32:53):
be Wade Wilson, or in supportof Wade Wilson, women who love Wade
Wilson. You can pretty much typein anything in the search and you'll find
social media accounts about this man.Yeah. I don't know if it's worth,
you know, committing murder to justbecome popular, but there are people
out there who do make that decision. It's just it's a weird world that

(33:14):
we live in, and when youcombine social media with it, it just
it just exacerbates. It makes usmore of what we already are. Like
money, money does that too.They say money makes you who you are.
It reveals who you are, Itreveals and those one hundred thousand dollars
cyber trucks are revealing who people are. You know. The car that I
drive, right, I do,okay, it's a little two seat Honda.

(33:37):
It's very modesty. My ego isnot in my car at all.
I need something that's functional, practical, and I like not having a car.
Note, well, your ego isin that ginormous house you have.
It is not that big houses.That's late cases. I would go to

(34:00):
market ask him, but he justrefuses to come out and play with us.
He refuses to come to the house. Don't you bring me into this.
I like how my house is verymodest as well by millionaire standards.
It's all. I've said this before. It's a villa. It's not a
regular picture. There are pictures onmy Instagram. It's not that big.

(34:22):
It's a state, a state.No. No, When I say Chateau
le Mo, I am making funof Bill Handle with his Persian palace.
Oh, it is absolutely not Persianper se. But it is an African
American pasace. It's not a palacepalace. It's not Wakanda it is.
It's not no anyhow, don't wehave to go to break We got plenty

(34:45):
of time to talk about that gianthouse of years now, and we got
all the time in the world.My point is, you know you're not
going to see me rolling around insome hundred thousand dollars car. Ever,
somebody just got one of those wanktanks on my block. My name?
What? What? I'm sorry,I'm sorry. The cyber truck. Yes,

(35:07):
and everybody's mocking it. I can. It's hilarious because the things are
bigger up close than they look inthe photos. They're really big cars,
so they're closer than how they appearin America. Yeah, they they're giant,
and they definitely do look like agiant waste basket or a dumpster.

(35:29):
There's no question. I've seen afew out in the wild, as they
say, And for me, there'sjust I don't get it. It doesn't
seem like it's aesthetically pleasing. Itdoesn't seem like it's has a lot of
horsepower. It may I don't know. It doesn't seem like you can do
all these great jobs like a FOURDto one fifty truck could do, or
a ram Dons ram. But you'resending a message, yes, and you've

(35:52):
seen all these, you think,so you're trying to tell people what you
think about elon musk. You thinkit kind of this a statement that encompasses
a number of different areas, andyou don't buy one of those because if
it's ruggedness as a truck. ForGod's sakes, you've seen all sorts of
videos comparing the cyber truck to normaltraditional trucks that kick its ass in performance.

(36:14):
It's not about having a truck.Okay, I've never had a truck,
so I'm not I'm not trying tobe disingenuous. I'm trying to say,
look, I don't understand it.There are things that I think I
do understand, Like if you askme how politics, I understand that.
But you asked me about a cybertruck. I don't get. I don't
get the appeal. And if Iwere in the marketing meeting, it's like,
I don't know if we should makethis truck. I don't know if

(36:36):
there are enough people out there tobuy this. I think it would be
great as a limited edition, youknow, make a thousand of them,
make it a collector's item, scarceunavailable, but not like full production.
Yet there's a wait list. Well, I mean, i'd be interested to
see how many they actually shipped thisyear. You know this is there's a

(36:57):
weight list because they you know,made seventy thousd or they made thirty thousand.
You can't even take it through thedrive through. You know. No,
there are a lot of places youcan't drive it and you can't park
it, and you know. Andthe thing that stood out to me the
most when they first hit the scenewas how filthy they looked after like a

(37:17):
week and when they're dirty, theylook very very unseemly in a way that
the Degloorians in just case you're notold enough, the Back to the Future
car, which is also stainless steel, so this is not new. The
Deloreans didn't look like that when theygot dirty. And I don't know why
or what's different, but I likethe stainless steel look on a car,

(37:38):
but I didn't like it on thecyber truck because it was it always looked
like it was dirty and dingy.So you know. But that's that's the
viral lover. That's it. That'sTippy Howes. You're gonna hang around for
a minute, I'll hang out.It's Later with mo Kelly. It's the
summer of love, we're told andhow it might be destroying relationships as well.

(37:58):
We'll tell you about it in justto second. You're listening to Later
with Moe Kelly on demand from KFIAM six forty and this is being termed
the Summer of Love. In twentytwenty four, forty one percent of people
are seeking a random hookup that alsoincludes people in relationships. A survey of

(38:22):
two thousand sexually active adults found thatwhile seventy four percent of single respondents are
dreaming of a meet cute ahead ofvacation, I'll tell you what. A
meet cute is, just a moment. They're not the only ones looking for
excitement. A meet cute meet hyphencute is when two strangers meet under humorous

(38:45):
or charming circumstances and end up ina romantic relationship. Now, however you
want to define romantic, that's upto you. Despite ninety five percent of
respondents in relationships saying they're planning tostay with their current partner this summer,
one quarter twenty six percent are alsointerested in taking a little break for a

(39:07):
summer fleet. Americans are also lookingto get frisky while traveling out of town,
with another twenty six percent saying theywill try to have a romantic encounter
with someone while on vacation, includingseventeen percent of those in a relationship.
Well, let me just say this, that is true that much is true.

(39:30):
I remember when I was a singleman, long time ago, many
many minim moons ago. The firsttrip I had to Europe. I went
by myself to Barcelona, Barcelona,Spain. It's one of the best cities
on the face of the earth bya lot. If I were to ever
leave the United States and become anexpat, Barcelona would be the place.

(39:52):
It'd be Barcelona or Rome. Butanyhow, when I was in Barcelona,
I was there for about two weeks, and I was just about fluent in
Spainanish because Barcelona. Let me dothis digression, Barcelona. Let me just
say, Spain has co national languages. It's Spanish in Coto lan doctor Lan
sounds like a mixture of Spanish,French and Latin. And I didn't even

(40:15):
realize it until I was there.I thought I could speak a little Spanish
and people were speaking cot to Lana'slike. I couldn't figure out what the
hell was going on. And thensomeone told me it's got the lan.
No, it's thing oh, andthen I understood it was a co national
language. And then I started hearingit and understanding it. And whenever you're
in an environment like Spain, thesecond language And here's the point, it's
not English. It's not like you'regoing to hear English. I heard more

(40:38):
English and South Korea than I didin Spain because English is only spoken in
Spain, or at least when Iwas in Barcelona, it was only in
the high tourist areas, like ahotel, restaurant. You're just out in
the city, you're not going tohear English. In fact, it's almost
it's almost like a disrespectful you shouldtry to speak Spanish before you just assume

(41:00):
that someone's going to accommodate your English. I say all that to say,
one of the best vacations I everhad relative to this story about traveling in
the summer, especially traveling by myself, and how you might happen upon someone
who was also traveling who would liketo have maybe a semi dangerous laizone,

(41:22):
some sort of romantic interlude, sometwenty minutes of bumping uglies. Yes,
when you're on vacation, that's whenyou're most likely to have it. There
was another time in which I wastraveling. I took my first cruise.
I was like maybe thirty years old, so it was like more than twenty
four years ago. It's Carnival Cruz. It was Bahamas, traveling by myself

(41:45):
on a cruise ship. What allthe single women on a cruise ship.
I've been trying to get like Twallato come on a cruise with me.
It's like it's just plentiful. It'severywhere. So this they say that this
is the summer of love. Gettingback to the story, No, every
summer is the summer of love whenit comes to people and travel. And

(42:07):
yes, you know, just becausesomeone may be in a relationship or dare
I say it, even married,that doesn't necessarily present itself as a deterrent,
especially if if you're somehow traveling onlike a cruise not with your spouse.
That's a problem. That's an issue. Now that's kind of strange,
almost like asking for it. Butyeah, of course people were traveling during

(42:29):
the summer and they're trying to expandtheir horizons. I can't speak for you
single people. And I when you'rethirty, how much you're thirty nine two?
That's what I said. So you'rethirty two, and I'm quite sure,
and you're from the Dominican Republic.My family is I'm from the Bronx,
but I'm saying you've traveled though,right, yeah, okay, that's

(42:51):
my point. So when you're travelingas a guy who was in his late
twenties or thirties, I'm quite sureoptions presented themselves to you, right,
Okay, I don't know what youlike. I'm not even asking what you
like. I'm just saying opportunities availedthemselves. Yes, man, in a
few words, Mark Ronner, youhave a history as well. Nope.

(43:19):
No, you have traveled all aroundthis country at the minmum, probably around
the world the world the end.But still the answer remains Nope, No,
Mark, whatever you're gonna ask,Okay, I'll let you off the
hook. Tiffany Hobbs, I knowyou've traveled. Oh you're extending this question
to me. Well, you saidyou're going to hang around, so that

(43:42):
means I'm going to ask you sure, And you are traveled presently in a
relationship I am, but not married. So I think it's a fair question
to ask you someone who has traveled. Sure, have you traveled with not
necessarily the express intention, but theexpress openness to shenanigans if it presented it?

(44:04):
Yes, I have. In mytwenties, I did some traveling I've
traveled since, but in my twenties, specifically after college, I traveled to
the Bahamas. I don't know whythe Bahamas seems to be of I'll tell
you why, because it's usually affordableenough for people in their twenties and early
thirties to reach. Yeah, thereyou go. It was exotic, but
it's affordable. I was with mymom, so I'm go to sleep at

(44:29):
some point. They do, andyou know I did have dates when I
was there. You know, youfeel freer. I think when you're on
vacation as well, there's that there'sthat sense of adventurism and exhibitionism. Perhaps,
let me put it in another way. You don't have to worry about
the walk of shame when you're outof the country. You're on the beach.

(44:49):
That's your walk of shame. It'sa nice one. I don't know.
I don't know shame. No,I'm just saying, there's no one
to recognize you walking back or inyour house at fom morning or not at
all, not at all. Andagain I did enjoy myself safely, for
sure, but again, wanting tospend my time on vacation kind of doing

(45:09):
everything I could, not everyone perse. But everything I could involved also
hanging out, meeting, doing thingslike that. Yeah, and look,
I know in my travels it waskind of unstated and understood. You know,
this is going to be the bestthirty five minutes of our lives.

(45:30):
That was it. Don't get aBDR. Well no, but the point
is that this was this is kindof pre social media, So you weren't
going to write letters, you weren'tgoing to stay in touch that way.
Yeah, you could exchange phone numbers, but the type of communication wasn't the
same. You know, you're fromthis country, I'm from that country.

(45:51):
And again the two shall never meet, Yeah, most likely. Yeah,
And it's interesting and you may haveencountered this too, that when you are
traveling out of the country and youdo have a hookup, there is sometimes
a one for that other person tomaintain contact because perhaps they're wanting a visa
or some sort of you know,entry, and all time, see,
I've never even thought about that.I never even went that route. It's

(46:14):
just more like I'm traveling. You'realso traveling, and you might be open
in the way that I'm open becauseI'm on vacation. Yeah, you know,
let hey, you've had two drinks. I've had twelve. Let's get
the party started. Yeah. Sothe whole point is when they say this

(46:35):
is the summer of love and peopleseeking a random hookup, that's every damn
summer. There is nothing. Youcan have this same article every single year,
and I can show you a cruiseship and thirty five people under the
age of forty who are out tryingto do their thing. And I think
studies have shown recently that cruise shipsare kind of harbingers. No std no,

(46:59):
yes, no, Oh, it'sa good thing. I'm a married
man because you know, no,yeah, no, Seriously, there's a
lot of stuff that goes on ona cruise ship. A lot never been
on one. Oh, don't go. If you're trying to get married to
your husband, Okay, don't doit. Don't do it because you end
up like broken up. Oh no, because either he's gonna do something or

(47:20):
you're gonna do something and bumping up. Apparently you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on Demand from KFI AM sixforty before we do get out here,
we were talking about this supposed summerof love where forty one percent of people
are seeking a random hook up,and I was making the argument that every
summer is the summer of love.This is the season in which people are

(47:43):
wearing fewer clothes, it's it's it'sthe season which people are going on vacation
and they try to escape from theirlives. And sometimes it has to do
with their own relationships and trying toescape that reality and do things that they
wouldn't normally do. Be and theycan't normally be had experiences and explore places

(48:05):
and themselves in ways that they justcan't in their normal day to day lives.
Look, next year, it's goingto be the summer of love.
And I'll tell you two years fromnow it'll be the summer of love.
And if you are over the ageof let's say thirty five, you already
know, living through your twenties andinto your thirties, you've probably had fifteen
sixteen different summers of love. That'sa part of you know, that's a

(48:28):
part of just growing up and gettingolder. Now, I will say this,
since we are now in the timewhich people generally wait to get married
until later, it may feel asif there's more of a summer of love.
I think about my parents, theygot married to twenty two and twenty

(48:49):
three, I saidsane by today's standards, and I know someone's listen to.
Well, I got married to myhigh school sweetheart at nineteen. Good for
you, but you're the exception,You're not the rule. I got married
as forty six Mark Ronner, unmarriedTiffany Hobbs. You're not gonna tell your
age, but it's more than twentyfive. It's a little more than twenty

(49:09):
five. I'm north of forty andunmarried but engaged. I'm divorced. You're
divorced. Yeah, really, I'msorry. Yeah, Well, how old
were you when you got married?Twenty three? Was she the love of
your life at the time? Lookingback? She was? Yeah? How

(49:31):
how long did you date prior togetting married? One of the guests,
Okay, you start off on aone night stand, you had this squirlwind
romance, and you got married sixmonths later. I'm born eight months see
worn. Yeah, and you thoughtthat she was just the perfect whatever?

(49:53):
And how long were you married?H four years? It's not bad,
it's not bad, but I knowthis. The twenty three year old me
is divorced at twenty seven. Nomatter who I would have married, absolutely
because I know the twenty three yearold me was a knucklehead, and the

(50:13):
idea of happily ever after or growingas a couple with twenty three year old
me was not a possibility. Iam self aware in that regard, and
I could not have been anybody's husbandat that age. I don't think I
could have been at thirty three.I couldn't agree more because if I'm anything

(50:35):
like you, or you or anythinglike me, I was chasing the industry.
I was working in entertainment. Ihad personal goals. I didn't have
any children. I wasn't married.I was intentionally selfish because I knew that
I was not going to devote myselfcompletely to one person with respect to marriage

(50:57):
and also children. So like that'swhy I didn't have children. It's like
you always look at like, whyis that person have children? You know
they're too immature. I was notgoing to be that guy. I was
not going to be that guy.And I was intentional. And I don't
think this is an insult. Ithink Mark Runner has been intentional. These
are active decisions that we make.You just don't end up unmarried past the

(51:20):
age of forty. It's for everybody'sgood. Well, no, but and
I don't think that's even a dissor even an insult. It really was.
It was the best thing not todo. Yes, absolutely, there's
nothing wrong with not getting married becauseI know I would have been divorced three
four years later. The women thatI thought that I wanted to marry,
that I was so in love with, Thank you Jesus, it didn't happen.

(51:45):
But you raised an interesting point earlierabout how young people used to be,
Like the model couple of my childhood, they got married when they were
like sixteen seventeen years old, andthey stayed married. But you don't hear
a lot of that anymore. Ithink there's so many competing and interfering variables
with social media, with just lifein general. You don't work at just

(52:08):
one job for the rest of yourlife. You need two salaries to buy
a house. The idea of marriage, beyond the institution, the nature of
the relationship has changed fundamentally over thepast thirty forty years. Well, it
reminds me of like when people firstgot television, and how then you know,

(52:30):
we consumer cultures spread from that,Like this is we would see people
I mean this way before our timepeople would see like I love Lucy and
like, oh well, there's whatan apartment in New York City. It
looks like people were getting married whenthey didn't have a lot of other options,
and they weren't exposed to a lotof other people or other situations.
And we had a lot more agrariancountry as well, like a significant portion

(52:52):
of the country had farm families andall that's changed. So now it's a
little bit more of a smorgas boardthat what I'm saying. Yeah, And
also the concept of marriage has changed. Divorce used to be unthinkable. Now
it's Tuesday people get married. It'slike, I don't like this one.
You know what, I'll get divorcedand I'll marry someone else, and they'll

(53:15):
get divorced and marry someone else.It used to be Elizabeth Taylor was like,
oh my gosh, she got marriedseven times. Now it's like Jay
Love was gonna get there before she'sall said and done, She's gonna beat
Elizabeth Taylor. I think she gaveRichard Burton some BDRs. Go ahead,
I'll let him have it. That'sa callback. Can if I am six

(53:36):
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