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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Laid with mood. Methods and tactics matter because it's never
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just about the law. It always includes methods and tactics.
The ongoing deportation and immigration enforcement debate, it's not just
about finding and removing those who are not in this
country legally. It includes the methods and tactics employed. The question,
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and I think the principal question, is whether we are
concerned about illegal immigration generally or just Latinos illegally in
America specifically. There are thousands of things which are illegal
in America. There are thousands of things that you can
can't do, places you can't go, activities you can't participate in, etc.
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But how we enforce the law always matters. Which laws
we choose to enforce and the ones we choose to overlook.
Let's say that also matters. The Fourth Amendment still matters,
even if you don't like who it may protect. If
you're only looking for undocumented immigrants at places like farms
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or home depots, you aren't really looking for undocumented immigrants.
There's a difference. You're just looking for Latinos who fit
the description. Can we tell the truth? And that's not
the same if you're only scooping up the Latino undocumented
immigrants on a farm for breaking the law air quote,
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but not the farmers who employ them, who are also
breaking the law. Then you're not really concerned with the law.
There's no moral or legal high ground to stand on
if you're worried about illegal immigration and this being a
law and order country. Here's something you may not know.
According to the Public Policy Institute of California, forty nine
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percent of immigrants are from Latin America, but forty one
percent are from Asia, forty nine percent Latin America, forty
one percent Asia. Drilled down even more, and among immigrants
who arrived here in California between twenty fourteen and twenty
twenty three, forty six percent were born in Asia, while
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thirty eight percent were born in Latin America. But if
you just watched TV or follow the news in chronicle
the methods and tactics employed, you'd wrongly and missed the
point that ninety nine percent of undocumented or Latino you'd
wrongly believe that. Since California's on the national stage in
this ice debate, I think those numbers bear mentioning since
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the raids are largely not happening anywhere else. It set
Latino communities. Those numbers bear mentioning. Talking about immigrants who
arrived here between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty three, forty
six percent were born in Asia, thirty eight percent were
born in Latin America. It's like only looking for illegal
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drugs in the inner city but not on college campuses,
when we all know there is extensive use in both places.
I've lived at inner city, I've lived on a college campus,
and I'm here to tell you there's an equal amount
of drug use. Let me tell you, but there's not
equal focus. And that only says you're not really targeting
the problem. You're targeting people. The state with the largest
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undocumented population in America is California. That can't be argued.
But you know who's number two and three, Texas and Florida.
It's fair to point out that no similar effort is
underway in Texas or Florida. But hey, I'm sure it's
just a coincidence, and the National Guard will show up
in both states eventually. I mean, the National Guard didn't
show up to a in the floods in Texas and
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save actual lives. But who's nitpicking illegal immigration in California
is more important than floods in Texas, right, right, because
never mind, I think you understand what I mean. Methods
and tactics matter. If you're not actually following the law
all the time and trying to get all the people
breaking the law, that you're not really interested in the law.
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You're just targeting people. Okay. If I am six forty,
I am mo Kelly. A little more than six years
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ago to the day, July ninth, twenty nineteen, Jeffrey Epstein
was arrested in charge with sex trafficking of miners and
conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of miners. Those were federal charges.
On July twelfth, twenty nineteen. Just three days later, then
Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta stepped down due to scrutiny of
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his role in a previous non prosecution deal with Epstein
in Florida while Acosta was a federal prosecutor in Florida.
Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell a little
more than a month later, on August tenth, twenty nineteen.
Donald Trump was president at the time. Bill Barr was
the Attorney General. November twelfth, twenty twenty, the Justice Department's
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Office of Professional Responsibility, under the purview of Bill Barr,
issued a report criticizing alex Acosta in handling the Jeffrey
Epstein investigation that led to Epstein being cut a sweetheart
deal that protected him and others from federal prosecution in
the Florida case. That deal was made in two thousand
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and eight, which allowed Epstein to plead guilty to state
charges of procuring a person under eighteen for prostitution and
solicitation of prostitution instead of the more serious federal charges
of child sex trafficking. In other words, Alexa Coosta declined
to prosecute on a federal level. Epstein was sentenced to
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one and a half years in the Palm Beach County
jail system, followed by a year of house arrest. He
was required to register as a sex offender. The deal
also gave immunity to quote any potential co conspirators of
Epstein close quote. That is a quote that's important. Epstein
dodge federal charges, his co conspirators were granted protection against prosecution,
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and Epstein had to only face minor state charges. That
was two thousand and eight, and that's also important to
know because the Florida Attorney General from twenty eleven to
twenty nineteen was no other than Pam Bondy. Yes, that
Pam Bondy, meaning BONDI had access to all of these
original Epstein files as long as fourteen years ago. And
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I'm recounting all this because this was all out in
the open. Maybe I just paid closer attention to this stuff,
closer than most people. But releasing the Epstein files as
they're called, be they the Florida or the federal ones,
have never been predicated on electing Donald Trump president in
twenty twenty four. Now, I know it made for good
conspiracy fadder and campaign promises, but it was never dependent
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on Donald Trump returning to the White House. Would I
like to know who is linked to the reasons why
Gilaine Maxwell is serving twenty years in federal prison. Of course?
Would I like to know who are the protected co
conspirators in the two thousand and eight deal. Of course.
Do I believe that the Johns and those complicit should
see justice, Absolutely, But if you're mad now about Jeffrey
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Epstein and not back in two thousand and eight for
getting over in Florida, I can't take your concern seriously.
He was a known child rapist even back then. With
the stroke of a pen by the then governor Rick Scott,
who was governor twenty eleven to twenty nineteen and who's
now Florida's junior senator, everything connected to the Florida state case,
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which originally was a federal case, could have been released instantly.
Remember it was just a state case. Scott's successor, Governor
Ron DeSantis, did release one hundred and fifty pages of
grand jury testimony, but chose not to release more than that.
Chose chose to quote the movie when a stranger calls,
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the call is coming from inside the house. If you
really wanted the Epstein files, you could have and should
have had them more than a decade ago. You didn't
ask the right people. Don't act surprise now that there's
no appetite to release them. Ron de Santis right now
can release the Florida portion of the files all by himself.
And if you know anything about civics, you know I'm right.
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There's no debate here. But most people who want to
talk about Jeffrey Epstein don't want to have that conversation.
The guy who agreed to release one hundred and fifty
pages of grand jury testimony. Is the guy who can
release the rest today. But this is what happens when
the dog chasing the car finally catches it. This is
what happens when Ahab finally slays the white whale. When
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Charlie Brown finally kicks the football and Lucy doesn't pull
it away. The conspiracy is not all that complicated, But
the allure of conspiracy theories is that they remain abstract,
with a non specific boogeyman to blame. The sad truth
is the real driving force behind the desire to release
the Epstein files is the wish casting as to who
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is supposedly on the client list. That's it. Because Jeffrey Epstein,
pardon my vernacular, he was raping children in the early
two thousands and nobody said anything. It was a relatively
open secret in Florida. But now it's a thing. If
you're connected to child sex trafficking, you should be under
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the jail. But here's an uncomfortable truth. Nobody is ever
going to be held accountable ever, and here's why. Because
there is no statute of limitations for federal child sex
trafficking charges. No statute of limitations. You released that list tomorrow.
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Anybody on that list is eligible for prosecution. Put another way,
that list will never come out never. But you can
always ask Governor Ron DeSantis. See if you help you
out for k if. I am six forty, I'm Moe Kelly.
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The Late Show with Stephen Colbert will be no more
as of May twenty twenty six. Just in case you
hadn't heard the news, it came as a shock too.
I would say all the entertainment world nobody saw it coming,
or maybe some did. Colbert announced the impending into his
show during taping earlier today, to which CBS released the
following statement quote, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert will
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end its historic run in May twenty twenty six at
the end of the broadcast season. We consider Stephen Colbert
irreplaceable and we'll retire the Late Show franchise at that time.
We are proud that Stephen called CBS home. He and
the broadcast will be remembered in the pantheon of greats
that graced late night television. Close quote and CBS also said,
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and this is something I really want you to key
in on. Quote purely a financial decision against a challenging
backdrop in Late Night. It is not related in any
way to the show's performance, content, or other matters happening
at Paramount. Close quote referring obviously to the recent sixteen
million dollars CBS settlement to help grease the wheels for
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the FCC to hold a full commission vote on the
Paramount merger waiting in the wings. And that's notwithstanding Colbert's
on air torching of parent company Paramount on his show.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Just on Monday, while I was on vacation, my parent corporation,
Paramount paid Donald Trump a sixteen million dollar settlement over.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
His sixty Minutes lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
As someone who has always been a proud employee of
this network, I'm offended and I don't know if anything
will ever repair my trust in this company, But just
taking a stab at it, I'd say sixteen million dollars
would help the settlement.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
This settlement.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump filed claiming
that sixteen Minutes deceptively edited their interview with then candidate
Kamala Harris last fall. Paramount knows they could have easily
fought it because in their own words, the lawsuit was
completely without merit, and keep in mind Paramount produced Transformers
Rise of the Beast, they know completely without merits now online.
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Unlike unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount settlement
did not include an apology instead, that's good. Instead, the
corporation released a statement where they said, you may take
our money, but you will never take our dignity. You may, however,
purchase our dignity for the low low price of sixteen
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million dollars. We need the cash now. I believe.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
What can I say? What can I say?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Mister Stephen loves to Dan.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with
a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles.
It's big Fat Bride. Because this all comes as Paramount's
owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve
the sale of our network to a new owner. Sky
Dance not the music I was expecting. Okay, that was
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me dancing in the sky. And some of the TV
typers out there are blogging that once sky Dance gets CBS,
the new owner's desire to please Trump could put pressure
on late night host and frequent Trump critic Stephen Colbert. Okay, okay,
but how are they going to put pressure on Stephen
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Colbert if they can't find him?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And just in case you were wondering, in the most
recent quarterly ratings released earlier this week, Colbert sat at
number one for his hour, seven hundred thousand, more viewers
than Jimmy Kimmel Alive and more than double the viewers
of the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. The higher the ratings,
the higher the ad revenue. So I'm not so sure
about the difficulty in producing his show. Maybe the separation
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was inevitable. But when he put all of this with
the previous resignation nations of sixty Minutes executive producer Bill
Owens and Winnie McMahon, president of CBS News, over the
question of editorial independence, it has to make you wonder. No,
it's not a matter of free speech, as these are
private companies. Nobody has a constitutional right to any particular
job or the privilege to have a television show. But
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it is very much a matter of whether the government
is exerting its will leaning on companies via stick or
carrot to stifle voices which may be in opposition to it.
Meaning it is very much an issue regarding freedom of
the press, same First Amendment with different parts of it.
Assuming you know it, Stephen Colbert will be fine. In fact,
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I wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised if
he ended up on some other network with a new venture.
If you think he might go back to the Daily Show, No,
that too is a paramount property. That's not going to happen.
I'm more curious to see if any of this fallout
hits John Stewart too, But honestly, that's not my concern.
My concern is as a fellow member of the media,
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as I watched the announced future exit of one of
the biggest names in entertainment while he's still number one
in the same news cycle as NPR and PBS are defunded. Because,
as I said before, whereas this may not be a
free speech issue, it is definitely one of freedom of
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the press. Since when is America built upon the idea
that media should not be allowed to offer ideas in
opposition to a presidential administration? Since when? Well, I guess
since this week is the answer for KF I am
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