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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh lad with six fun. Last week, I told you
about how I believe in experts. I believe in education,
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I believe in training and expertise. And I believe that
those who have education, training, and expertise are superior to
those who lack all three within their respective disciplines. I'm
talking about professionally, I'm not talking about as people. But
call me crazy. I believe doctors are more knowledgeable on
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issues of medicine than people who only watch YouTube videos.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Call me crazy, but I actually believe that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I believe actual pilots are more knowledgeable than I don't know,
those who simply play Microsoft Flight Simulator and other video games.
And I believe economists know more about what's going on
in the economy than people who only have a checking account.
Call me elitist if you want, but that's how I roll.
I prefer actual contractors and plumbers to guys who watch
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YouTube videos as well expertise. Batters, Your one DIY video
is not equal to years in a trade school or
decades in a profession.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Can we agree on the simple stuff? I think that's
pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So when I tell you that RFK Junior is only
trained as a lawyer and author. I'm telling you that
his feelings, opinions, and proclamations on medical issues hold no
water and less than a grain of salt. Presently he's
Secretary of Health and Human Services. He has zero experience
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as a physician, a health scientist, a virologist, immunologists, epidemiologists, podiatrist, dentist, chiropractor, veterinarian, apothecary, midwife,
or even dental hygienist.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
He and I are exactly the same in that regard.
But here's the difference, and it's a big one. Never,
in my wildest nightmare is what I want me as
the head of any such agency, Nor would I try
to imprint my socio political health beliefs on the agency.
I mention this because RFK Junior pledged an answer to
what he calls the autism epidemic quote unquote, and he
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will have that answer by September, not pledge a treatment
for any specific portion of this quote unquote epidemic. Remember autism,
there's a spectrum here. It's just not one particular condition.
But his word epidemic just an answer to this. But
to promise an answer is to presuppose we all agree
on the same question again, substitute me for RFK Junior,
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and you should have an equal amount of faith as
in none. More recently, Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Junior,
in a new interview, set autism was an epidemic with
an impact that surpasses the COVID nineteen believe that.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Here are his words. Quote, this is an epidemic.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It dwarfs the COVID epidemic and the impacts on our
country because COVID killed old people. Autism affects children and
affects them at the beginning of their lives, the beginning
of their productivity, and it's absolutely debilitating for them, their families,
their communities close quote that's what Kennedy had to say
on WABC seven to seventy am. I don't argue with
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unseerious people. I don't need to deconstruct his theories. I'm
just telling you what he had to say. Tawalla Sharp,
the producer of this show, works with children with autism
every single day, every single day. He has more experience
on this subject than RFK Junior, and that's not open
to debate among many people. Peter Marks, the former head
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of the FDA, stepped down last month because he didn't
see eye to eye with Kennedy. The FDA, like the CDC, Medicare, Medicaid,
all under HHS. There's a reason it's a crime to
impersonate a physician or practice medicine without a license, because
it is just that serious people could die. And no,
Kennedy isn't seeing patients or prescribing medicine, but he's literally
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responsible for the totality of the health and human services
in this country, the whole country. Like I said last week,
we've devalued competence like it is some sort of insult.
And now the government apparatus of Health and Human Services
is chasing the conspiracy theory of vaccines and autism. This
is like putting a flat earther in charge of NASA,
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a government agency, and that flat earther announcing he's going
to get an answer to the shape of the planet.
I know, I know, you really like RFK Junior because
he says stuff you also believe. But neither of you
is a physician, a virologists, immunologists, epandemionologists, scientists, all those
real complicated jobs. Neither you nor RFK Junior has conducted
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any peer review studies Kennedy's starting with a conclusion and
hoping to work his way b backwards. I'm here to
tell you I'm not a scientist, but I do know
that's not how the scientific method works. You mean you
couldn't get at least a physician to run AHHS, not
even a dentist, not even a pedietrist. Would you want
a secretary of Defense with zero military experience? No, say
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that out loud, because this is what that is like.
Do we really think that little of Health and Human
Services to CDC, the FDA, the VA, etc. That any
old person who believes the same conspiracy theories that you
do can do the job.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Question? Mark, I'm Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
As long as he believes vaccines cause autism, sign him up.
That's where we are in America. I like my pilots
highly trained. I like my air traffic controllers highly trained.
Why because people might die? Why we don't apply that
same type of leadership to a top agency like AHHS?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Let me remind you as I close, two children have
died in America thus far from measles and twenty seven states.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I heard Mark Runner say this.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Twenty seven states have recorded measles infections. In this latest outbreak,
twenty seven states why measles or bird flu is not
at the top of the list of priorities and providing
an answer for.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Those issues I can't tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Tomorrow, class, we're going to talk about the benefits of
hiring a secretary of labor who has never had a
job or work today in his or her life, and
a secretary of the VA who is anti military because
experience need not apply for KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm Moe Kelly, and if you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Heard the opening of the show, you know I was
talking about my trip to the movies.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This morning.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I went to see Sinners, the new Michael B. Jordan
movie directed by Ryan Coogler. My schedule has been so
very hectic I couldn't get the time to see it
the first few days that it came out. In fact,
I was supposed to go with the Fellas to see
it Friday, early afternoon, but I didn't get a chance
to do it because of other family commitments. But I
wanted to see it and see it immediately, that's the point.
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So I saw it today. I chose the very first
show eleven AM. And this is not a movie review.
So I'm not gonna get caught up in what I
thought about the movie. But long story short, in that
eleven AM movie, the first show of the day at
to Neapolis Englewood, two other guests were loudly talking through
the movie. Came in late, loudly talking, order food, loudly talking,
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being disruptive and smelling like weed.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And you know how I feel about the weed part.
And I waited a while.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You try to put up with stuff for a while
and until you can't put up with it anymore. And
then I called them out. And it did become a
huge thing, thank goodness. But it still became a thing.
And nobody wants to go to a movie and have
to worry about getting into some sort of fight, some
sort of conflict and ruin the movie. But it got thinking, how,
how and why did we get here? Everyone has these
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stories here as in the place where manner is decency
and acting like a responsible adult fell out of favor.
I think it has to do with the pandemic. We
lost a lot during the pandemic, I think. And that's
inclusive of basic socialization skills, basic common courtesy. I'm talking
about the bare minimum, mind you, We didn't have a
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lot before COVID, and we sure as hell barely had
any after COVID. And this is kind of still connected
to my thoughts earlier in the week about physical discipline
and corporal punishment.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
There is just zero respect anymore. That's when it comes
down to zero.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And that's not I'm an old man, get off my
grass talking that. There are just some things which are
or should be timeless and not relegated to some by
gone era.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I kid you not, I really.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Considered whether going to the movies physically going to the
movies was worth it anymore. Today I shouldn't have to
pay money and miss out on parts of a movie
I paid for, or have to worry about some sort
of confrontation from some knuckleheads who are smoked out, or
they won't stop kicking the back of my chair, or
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they won't stop texting or talking in the theater. I
shouldn't have to worry about that. But this is something
that movie theaters will have to address more forcefully if
they hope to survive as an industry. But it's not
just limited to movie theaters. The complete lack of respect
and home training that's rampant, and I got all your messages.
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You're complaining and moaning about me supporting spanking of children. Yes,
I am fully in support of spanking slash physical discipline.
I get it. You can't differentiate between correction and child abuse.
You don't see any difference. Well, I'm here to tell
you that's a you problem. And because you don't see
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any difference, this society, which is inclusive of me and
you have it, has become ridiculously permissive.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But you, at the same.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Time complain like I do, that people in general are
out of control. You complain that kids are out of control.
But here's the thing about adults. They were kids once
upon a time, and bad ass kids turn into pain
in the ass adults. They had eighteen years of no discipline,
and then they become adults with no discipline or respect.
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And then we want to argue about getting tougher on
crime instead of getting tougher on discipline and stopping the
pre criminal behavior while we could have no I've never
supported giving Timmy a time out, bump that no discipline,
having kids turn into no respect adults. It's weird how
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these two are always connected. We can't have it both ways.
I would like to go to the movies and not
have to worry about getting into a fight. But now
I have to because this is a society in which
we live. It's a shame that I might be asking
way too much. Spank your badass kids for k If
I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly. We often talk
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about slippery slopes, the unintended consequences of decisions, ordinances, legislations.
The slippery slope of the Patriot Act is that's a
great example. The pushback is usually connected to what it
could open, the door to the mission creep of rights infringement. Yes,
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we want to stop terrorists, but at what expense? What
happens when actual American citizens are surveilled or treated in
a way inconsistent with or in opposition to the Constitution.
Does the Fourth Amendment mean something all the time or
just some of the time? And you know what I say,
it's an all or nothing proposition. Here's the Amendment for
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those who need a refresher or never knew it in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
The right of the People to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated.
And no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported
by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to
be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
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If you're paying attention, you realize how specific the Fourth
Amendment is. And the Fourth Amendment, just for an example,
is both big and small. The implications could be broad
or narrow. Is it okay to violate the rights of
just some people if the greater good arguably outweighs it
will not according to the Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's the ongoing debate in this country.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And I was thinking about that regarding the story we
discussed earlier in the evening with the license plate reading
technology that led to the recovery of multiple stolen cars.
Recovery of stolen cars, that's a good thing, right, We
probably would all agree that's a good thing. But then
you think about the possible unintended consequences and slippery slope
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slash Patriot Act implications of such technology combined with let's say,
drones looking in the backyards or having your license plate
run at any time for any reason, and I wonder
where we're headed. It's about looking beyond where we are
right now, and where we might be going. Combining that
with facial recognition technology, we already have buses ticketing cars,
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you know, reading your license plate, all of your information.
You may be not even i legally parked. You just
might be near a car which is illegally parked. On
every corner. Immigration raids which are sweeping up actual Americans.
I'm not making this up who are being detained, And
we are indeed slipping on this slippery slope. As Mark
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Runner said earlier, we may already be at the bottom
of the hill. I'm not sure what a reasonable expectation
of privacy is any more.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You're looking at YouTube right now.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Look at the first sentence, The right of the people
to be secure in their persons houses, papers, and effects
against unreasonable searches and seizures. What does being secure in
our person's houses, et cetera? And what is now considered
an unreasonable search or seizure? The forefathers could not have
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foreseen such technology or the implications which come along with it.
The Steven Spielberg movie Minority Report, based.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
On the nineteen fifty six Philip K.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Dick's short story The Minority Report, is more prescient than
if you haven't seen a movie. I don't have time
to tell you all about it, but go see it.
I think it's one of Tom Cruise's best. All we're
missing right now are some precogs or a precog see
the movie. But as far as the monitoring of society
in every way imaginable, we are there. It was scary
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when I first saw the movie. Now it's just Tuesday
because just about all the technology you see in the movie,
with the exception of being able to predict crime, we
presently have right now.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And that scares the Bejesus out of me.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
The question for this country is, and will continue to
be the question of the day, is whether we realize
that having the rights of others disregarded will inevitably, inexorably
lead to us.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It never only harms someone else.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You can't take someone else's rights away and then not
think that they won't eventually circle back around to you.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
If you think that they can kick people and disappear them.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Out of this country to a prison, that it's only
going to be the people you don't like.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Do you really think that, then you're deluding yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
History is clear that what is done to those you
don't care about will eventually get around to those you do,
which will include you. If it hasn't happened yet. As
my old pastor used to say, just keep on living.
For k I am six forty, I'm o Kelly. If
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you've been following the show, I said in the first
segment that I was going to use Shannon Sharp as
part of my final thought in this last segment, and
I want to take my time with this one because
there is a lesson in here for somebody, even though
you may not be as wealthy as Shannon Sharp, or
even as old as Shape and Sharp for that matter,
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there's a lesson in here as far as how decisions
seemingly insignificant can have an outsized impact on your life.
And we told you about some of the allegations and
accusations facing prominent sports personality and podcaster Shannon Shark, and
they range from sexual assault to forcible rape. And to
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be clear, this is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal
one or criminal charges, so this will be an issue
of liability, not a criminal judgment. But also that means
the standards of proof are remarkably different. In a criminal proceeding.
The standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. We're
all familiar with that. But in a civil proceeding, the
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standard of proof required is a preponderance of evidence. It's
much much lower threshold, meaning it's just about who has
a little bit more evidence than the other. The preponderance
of evidence on which side does it fall that determines
whether someone is found liable or not liable. Put another way,
it's much more likely that this will not go the
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way that Shannon Sharp would want it to go, as
opposed to if there were charges. But speaking of charges,
depending on what happens in discovery for this lawsuit, there's
nothing to say that there won't be enough evidence for
the DA to decide to step in and file charges,
because the lawsuit is very, very exact and explicit regarding
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detailed alleged rape.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So that's also a possibility.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
In other words, it can get much worse before it
gets better for Shannon Sharp. And I mentioned all this
because Shannon Sharp announced today via a written statement on
social media that he is stepping back and taking a
leave from ESPN, one of his streams of income.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't need to read it. It's a boilerplate.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He denies all the allegations, says he'll be vindicated thanks
his supporters.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
YadA YadA, YadA, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But this final thought is for young people now, I
think of young people in their teens or twenties.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You need to hear this more than anyone else.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You need to know that just because you do something
off the clock or not at your job, you can
still ruin your life. You can still ruin your professional life.
You can still make it difficult for you for the
rest of your life. You can still get your contract voided,
you can still destroy everything.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You worked for.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You may not know this, but Shannon Sharp was eyeing
a one hundred million dollar deal connected to his club
Shayshay podcast, one hundred million dollars that was just reported
earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
In fact, one day before this lawsuit was filed.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Don't get me wrong, Shannon Sharp was already a multi millionaire.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's not about whether he's going to be destitute.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But one hundred million dollar deals don't come around twice
if you fumble away. The first one, asked Jonathan Majors.
A refrain by of Sharp is that, well, what's wrong
with what he did? It was two consenting adults. Well,
that's actually up for debate and the whole point of
the lawsuit. But let's put that aside for a second.
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Let's just say Shannon Sharp did not engage in any
level of sexual assault. And again this is specifically for
young people. Just because something is legal, i e. Consenting
adults engaging insects, it does not mean that it is defensible.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Did y'all get that?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Just because something is legal young people, it does not
mean it is defensible, And it does not mean that
there aren't consequences to the person who happens to be
a public figure. Most entertainment personalities, and this includes me.
I don't like to think of myself as a public figure,
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but it does include me. Most entertainment personalities have contracts
with infamy clauses, some call them morals clauses, meaning you
don't even have to get arrested. You don't have to
even get charged with a crime or convicted of one.
You can just do something which embarrasses your employer. You know,
end up in a TikTok video, harassing someone, be a
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Karen be part of a protest at the capitol on
January sixth. It could be big, or it could be
really really small, but if it is embarrassing to your
employer or brings infa me to your employer, you can
be gone immediately, immediately. So don't think, well, whatever I
do on social media is my business.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's private now. Uh no, no, no, don't make that mistake.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Far too many people seem to think that what you
do on your quote unquote own time has no bearing
on your job.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No, you are always an ambassador for your job. Hear me,
young folks.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
You are always an ambassador for your job, regardless of
being at will or under contract. And here's the takeaway.
The lesson of Shannon Sharp is that this was of
his own doing. Regardless of how this lawsuit turns out,
he is not a victim. Whereas there is nothing inherently
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illegal about a fifty six year old band dating a
nineteen year old OnlyFans model, there's still some discussion of
when they actually met, when they actually started quote unquote dating,
and whether there was actual an exchange of money in
this relationship while they were dating. Lawsuit notwithstanding. But when
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you exhibit horrendous judgment, you're Shannon Sharp, You're a multimillionnaire.
You're looking at one hundred million dollar deal. Why you
think someone who's nineteen years old at the time you
allegedly started dating has as much to lose as you,
the fifty six year old with the public figure, public personality,
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and the one hundred million dollar deal on the table.
Why you would think that dating her is in any
way keeping your life and livelihood safe just means that
you don't deserve that hundred million dollar deal at all,
because you fumbled the bag, because you are thinking with
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the wrong head.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Young people, it can happen to you. For KF.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly