Final Thoughts to End July * Malcolm-Jamal Warner * USA is Unserious * NYC Mass Shooting * Diddy Pardon?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lad with fighting. I said at the beginning of the show,
be sure to check on your gen X friends.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We may not be doing alright.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The sudden and untimely passing of actor Malcolm Jamal Warner
is probably hitting harder than most. And there are a
number of reasons why The Cosby Show was only on
for eight years eight seasons, but it dominated all of
television for those eight years. And let me give you
some perspective. TV Guide listed The Cosby Show as quote
TV's biggest hit in the nineteen eighties close quote, adding
(00:48):
it quote almost single handedly revived the sitcom genre and
NBC's ratings fortunes close quote. You may not be old
enough to remember how big a deal the Cosby Show was.
The Cosby Show also spent five consecutive seasons as the
number one rated show on television, and, along with All
in the Family, if you remember that show, is the
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only sitcom in the history of the Nielsen ratings as
the number one show for five seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This in a world largely pre cable dominance.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
In definitely decades before the word streaming passed anyone's lips,
the Cosby Show touched virtually everyone in America in a
TV sense during that era. Chen X may not be
alright tonight. That's because we collectively grew up with The
Cosby Show. Depending on your exact age, you felt some
affinity to one or some of the Cosby kids. Maybe
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you found yourself in similar straits as those fictitious kids did,
or you had a similar relationship with your parents as
they did. But the Cosby Show changed television, and Malcolm
Jamal Warner was right at the center of it. It
defied stereotypes, and it raised the caliber of television sitcoms. Yet,
in the sordid circle of life, gen X, which includes me,
(02:06):
now has somewhat gotten used to losing the TV dads
and moms of that era in the way most of
us have lost our real mothers and fathers, from the
departure of All the Golden Girls to Alan Thick and
Growing Pains, Alice's Lynda Lavin to George and Weezy Jefferson,
(02:27):
Tom and Helen Willis, Archie and Edith bunker Nell, Carter, Missus,
Garrett and Romano, mister Drummond, Uncle Phil all gone. But
they were our TV parents. But now we're in the
age of the kids of those parents. Leaving us our
generation from Luke Perry, Adam Rich, Gary Coleman. It's a
(02:50):
long list, and now we add Malcolm Jamal Warner to
that list. But my point is that life is catching
up to gen X in a real and undenied eyable way.
TV was supposed to be our escape as children, and
now it seemingly is coming down and just crashing all
around us.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It wasn't like Malcolm Jamal Warner was sick.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It wasn't like he had a drug problem and was
in general declining health. We just woke up this morning
and he was gone. Just another reminder that death plays
no favorites. He was younger than me, think about that.
Not by much, but he was younger than me. I
saw more life on this planet Earth than he did.
(03:31):
I grew up seeing myself in the character Theo Huxtable.
There was nobody like him on TV that I could
personally identify with that matters to a kid. I couldn't
identify with either JJ or Michael Evans of Good Times
because I didn't grow up destitute in the projects. I
couldn't identify with Arnold or Willis Jackson because I didn't
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grow up in a penthouse on Park Avenue with a
guy who adopted me and was president of a transatlantic company.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
A's different strokes if you didn't And.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
By extension, I didn't grow up with any silver spoon
in my mouth, So no, Ricky Schroeder was a definite
no for me. The Cosby Show told a story that
most mirrored my upbringing and was a staple in my house.
And to have had the opportunity to hang out a
few times with Malcolm Jamal Warner as an adult was
oftentimes surreal, like I'm kicking it with THEO.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It was weird.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
He was always in and around the music industry, long
before he eventually won his Grammy in twenty fifteen. I
remember the first time I met him, and this is
just off the kuff. We spent like most of the
day together, Me and some other friends from the music
industry were at the standard Hotel rooftop party and he
was just as nice as he could be. But those
first impressions are the ones that will last forever for me.
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He was a spoken word in music, artist in his
own right, having nothing to do with his television notoriety,
and as quiet as it's kept, he has worked the
most of the original Cosby cast since the Cosby Show
Bill Cosby included. He was always much more than theo
Huxtable or anything Cosby Show related. An extremely private man
(05:11):
who kept his wife and child out of the public
eye because he knew the perils of his celebrity and
social media. We could all take a page out of
his book, but be sure to check on your gen
X friends and relatives. Real life is life and right now,
and we may not be okay for kay. If I
am six forty, I'm Moe Kelly, and I often talk
(05:48):
about how, at least in my view, America, which I
love dearly, but I can also be honest about it.
It's presently an unserious COUNTRYUS because we are unable to
pass meaningful legislation, unseerious because the biggest news stories usually
have to do with what new congressional or DOJ investigation
(06:12):
has been started, or documents have been released, or something
more than eight years old to accomplish a whole lot
of nothing. For example, Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on
Monday that the DOJ has released documents related to the
FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email
(06:34):
server as if it were twenty fifteen, and some openly mused,
I'm being serious that maybe the investigation should be reopened.
That was Monday, And just in case you weren't sure
whether there was enough Hillary Clinton in your news diet,
the House Overside Panel voted to subpoena both Bill and
Hillary Clinton over possible links to Geley Maxwell. Just in
(06:59):
case you didn't. The House Oversight Committee is to ensure
the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the federal government and
all of its agencies and serve as a check to
the president and his actions. President as in sitting president,
not the one from twenty four years ago, as in
sitting president who also has direct ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
(07:23):
Let me say it again. We are an unseerious nation.
We want the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, right, right, but
we just don't want to address the elephant in the
middle of the room or the truth scaring us in
the face.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You can subpoena both Bill and Donald, right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But I wasn't kidding more Hillary, please, because that'll get
to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein and improve the economy
or not. But I wasn't kidding on Wednesday, d and
I Tulca Gabbert offered this headline, quote, Russia sat on
documents which detailed heavy tranquilize use by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Close quote.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And I really don't understand this, because is the contention
that Russia was not actually trying to intervene in the
twenty sixteen election because Russia sat on information that was
embarrassing or damaging to Hillary Clinton? Or is it just
another way of mentioning the phrase Hillary Clinton in twenty
twenty five because politics is like music radio, the rule
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is to play the hits.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We are an un serious nation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And all of this is simultaneous to sending Congress home
early to avoid having a vote on releasing Jeffrey Epstein files,
because again, we are an un serious nation with no
serious designs on releasing anything meaningful regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Oh yeah,
I know, we release the MLK files because everyone was
asking for that. But then again I told you about
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those files as Jeffrey Epstein files, they will never see
the light of day. Just semi chasing new and old
conspiracies to nowhere. In particular, Oh, in that new conspiracy
that former President Obama somehow was the architect of a
coup to get people to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Know that that is another conspiracy bridge to nowhere. Barack
(09:11):
Obama is not getting subpoena, he's not getting indicted, he's
not getting arrested or in prison.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
How do I know? Because Senator Ted Cruz said, so that's.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
A hard heard look that there would be an argument
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's not going to be prosecuted for treason.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's not going to be prosecuted in all likelihood for treason.
But where the criminal liability will start is with members
of the Obama administration who went under oath before Congress
and lied.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Flat out lied.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We know Jim Clapper has lied repeatedly, and and that
that will be the beginning of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Okay, so we have another new investigation there. But that's
the party in power. That's what they're doing with their power.
But Democrats don't think you're going to get off easy.
You didn't care about the content of the Epstein files ever,
not now, not then. Maybe a member here or there
in Congress, like Jamie Raskin, but by and large y'all
(10:06):
Democrats had absolutely zero to say about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You could have.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Pursued Donald Trump in regard to Epstein during the Biden administration,
whether the case was sealed or not, and I know
it was sealed until twenty twenty four. I mean, you
pursued Trump in New York regarding the Stormy Daniel's payments.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That is the same state as Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You pursued Donald Trump with the classified documents in Florida
and DC. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein did live in Florida,
so there's some connection there. I mean, it wasn't like
it would have been beneath you, Democrats, because something tells
me you just are as afraid of the Epstein files
as the Republicans. Something as in more than just Bill Clinton.
(10:49):
It may not be just Bill Clinton. It could be
Bill Clinton and a few other Democrats, but clearly you're
afraid of something. But that goes back to what I said,
those files are never ever coming out, keilaid Maxwell speaking
of Jeffrey Epstein, is getting ready to trade a pardon
for keeping Trump out of her mouth. Yes, I said it,
I meant it, So that's another nail. In that coffin,
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and some Democrats are calling for an investigation, like Mark
Runner into the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
You let this a congressiatile investigation.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You know how stupid that is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
That's almost as stupid and unseerious as calling for two
sports franchises to change their names back to racial slurs
and racially insulting iconography.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So no dims.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You don't get to claim the moral high ground on Epstein.
We had the White House releasing an official statement today
getting into a Twitter fight with a freaking cartoon on
Comedy Central. That was just earlier today. But altogether, all
that happened just this week. We are in unseerious country
with an unseerious dysfunctional government. This is what happens when
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you destroy the lines between reality TV and governance. But
we chose this, we elected this, and we continue to
ask for more and wonder why nothing ever gets done
for k if I am six forty, I'm o Kelly.
(12:23):
We've had another mass shooting, this time in the heart
of Manhattan broad Daylight. It was brazen, it was pre planned,
and what amazed me was that there wasn't a higher
death toll.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thank goodness for that. It could have been much worse.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
The shooter communicated that he thought he was suffering from
CTE from his football playing days. Why he was supposedly
self aware enough to know he was suffering from a
degenerative brain disease and clearly in control of his faculties,
yet decided, what forethought malice to drive across the country
and randomly murder people.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He could have just stayed home and offed himself. I
know that sounds heartless, but that would have been preferential.
I know I shouldn't try to make sense out of nonsense.
Although the specifics of this mass shooting are different, the
results are largely the same. Innocent people are killed. Elected
officials offer thoughts in prayers, elected officials call for quote
unquote sensible gun legislation, and others will call for further
(13:21):
relaxation of gun laws and nationwide open carry. Nothing ever changes,
nothing will ever change. Here's why hashtag not all lives matter.
We as a country are emotionally comfortable with people needlessly dying,
dying violently dying needlessly broad daylight. Even a friend told
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me a long time ago about bad relationships. Have you
ever been in a bad relationship? I have, you know,
arguing all the time, fighting all the time. A friend
told me, MO, when you've honestly had enough, you will
end the real relationship. You will not put up with
the same old, same old, over and over again. You
will get tired of the fighting and arguing. When you
have had enough, you will change things. America has not
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had enough of watching innocent people, children in school worshipers
and church people in movie theaters, law enforcement at all
dying due to gun violence. We have a gun culture
that we just can't get enough of in America. And
we love that gun culture more than we love life itself,
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more than our children, more than our mothers, more than
our police officers. It's an abusive relationship on the level
of Icantina or oj and Nicole. And I'm not being
funny in the least because it is that abusive, that violent,
and that deadly. It's an abusive relationship we can't get
out of or get enough of. The political arguments never change.
(15:00):
Have you been paying attention? The platitudes never change, the
prayers never change. The gun violence hasn't changed. Why is
that because we haven't changed. Gun violence hasn't changed, and
it hasn't changed us.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
We are numb to it.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We are okay with it. And that's the more serious point.
We have had more than one generation grow up in
a country which is comfortable with watching people walk into
public places and try to kill people indiscriminately. Columbine was
twenty six years ago. There is something wrong with us
as a nation. Every country on the face of the
earth has to deal with mentally unstable people, suicidal people,
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homicidal people, but we're the only ones dealing with this
level of gun violence. There's no single law which will
solve this problem. And honestly, I don't think we want
to solve the problem, but we damn sure could do
more than what we're doing. We're not doing more because
say it with me. We are okay with mass shootings
and innocent people, including children, dying. We are comfortable watching
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police officers being carried out in body bags like officer
Islam was today. We politically talk about rapists and murderers
or terrorists crossing the southern border, but Americans are far
more efficient at killing Americans than anyone else. And it's
not even close. Because hashtag not all lives matter. In fact,
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hashtag nobody's lives really matter, as evidence by our collective
response to mass shootings. And I can't care about America
more than America does itself. I can't care about police
officers being outgunned and gunned down in cold blood than
America does because today, and this is just anecdotal, I
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saw way too many arguments about whether this shooter was
carrying at AR fifteen or an M four, as if
that freaking mattered. We as a country, we've lost the plot.
The point of at all should have been always protection
of life. For all the political commentary about being life
or right to life, we're way too cavalier watching people
die in gun violence or lack of health care for
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that matter. Here's another and lasting, uncomfortable truth about those
who died in New York City. We as in America
do not care beyond the symbolic, because if we actually
substantively cared, we would do something to help prevent or
lessen the likelihood of these mass shootings ever happening again.
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Only with gun violence do we throw our hands up
and act like we are just powerless to protect one another.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We don't do this for airplane crashes.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You notice that we didn't do it for the opioid
crisis or even natural disasters. We change laws, guidelines in
federal oversight immediately, and we are ever attempting to improve
safety and mitigate loss of life, except with guns. So honestly,
save your thoughts, you can keep your prayers. Just leave
me out of your political discussions. Just say that their
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lives don't matter. And the ones who will die the
next mass shooting, which is tomorrow or next week, or
next month or all three, they don't matter either, because
that is way more believable than saying they do.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay't by a six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm Mo Kelly, conservative podcaster and all around irritating individual.
To me, Magan Kelly, no relation is against a pardon
for music mogul Sean Didty Combs.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Now we can agree on that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I am not for any pardon a Sean Didty Combs,
but we don't agree on the reasons why President Trump
should not pardon Diddy. Here's what Megan Kelly wrote on
social media. Quote Trump should not pardon Diddy. He doesn't
deserve it. He's a Trump hater, he's a woman abuser.
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Maga is already upset over elite seeming to cover for
each other. This would not help GOP struggling with young
female voters, most of whom will hate A ditty pardon
she could have, and I would say she should have
edited her post after typing Trump should not pardon Diddy
should have just left it at that. But to frame
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someone as either deserving or not deserving of a pardon
and have it based on insufficient fealty or subservience to
a political ideology, it's not only dishonest in regard to
the purpose of a pardon in the first place, but.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It gives away the game.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
When she followed up with how it wouldn't help Trump
politically with young female voters. That's why, in large part,
why presidents historically have pardoned people on the way out
the door. So it's not a thing about an upcoming election,
because it shouldn't be about a future vote. But I know,
I know it's twenty twenty five and those days.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Are long gone.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And yes, I read President Biden the right act on
this very show when he pardoned his son. I am consistent.
Already know what you're thinking before you even try to
think it or say it. There's a podcast, you'd be
able to find it, save your notes. It's not necessary.
But I do remember once upon a time, and Twala,
I think you remember too, because we've been doing this
a long time. Not so sure about Mark, but probably Stefan.
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We remember once upon a time when partons used to
be about, at least the pretense of writing some injustice
or commuting the sentence of someone who had shown either
remorse it had shown rehabilitation while incarcerated. That's what it
used to be like. Now they're just political tools of
quit pro quote. But back to Ditty, we as in
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Macon Kelly and me the relation again. We agree that
Ditty is a woman abuser. That's what Megan Kelly said.
He is a woman abuser, and I quote. But here's
the thing about that. He's not the only woman abuser.
So is Donald Trump, who was found officially liable of
sexual assault of journalists e. G. And Carroll adjudicated in
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a court of law, just like Ditty. If being an
abuser of women is a bad thing, then that should
be a rather easy standard to uphold, and we should
be able to hold more than just rap moguls to
that standard.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
As for whether Ditty will eventually get his pardon. We
know that Trump is wholly transactional. He has to get
something out of it to extend the pardon, and a
pardon of Ditty or even Glayden Maxwell in connection to
the Jeffrey Epstein scandal will be a political calculation because
there is nothing on principle which suggests that a pardon
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of either or both is honorable or balancing the scales
of justice. Both of them were tried and convicted of
their various crimes. Yes, Ditty was acquitted of some, but
he was convicted of others. But here's the biggest and
most important point I want to make tonight. Victims of
sexual assault should be the only consideration, not voters.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's easy enough to understand, right, Can I leave it right?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Is that easy enough? Good for k? If I am
six forty, I'm mo killing
Lad with fighting. I said at the beginning of the show,
be sure to check on your gen X friends.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We may not be doing alright.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The sudden and untimely passing of actor Malcolm Jamal Warner
is probably hitting harder than most. And there are a
number of reasons why The Cosby Show was only on
for eight years eight seasons, but it dominated all of
television for those eight years. And let me give you
some perspective. TV Guide listed The Cosby Show as quote
TV's biggest hit in the nineteen eighties close quote, adding
(00:48):
it quote almost single handedly revived the sitcom genre and
NBC's ratings fortunes close quote. You may not be old
enough to remember how big a deal the Cosby Show was.
The Cosby Show also spent five consecutive seasons as the
number one rated show on television, and, along with All
in the Family, if you remember that show, is the
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only sitcom in the history of the Nielsen ratings as
the number one show for five seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This in a world largely pre cable dominance.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
In definitely decades before the word streaming passed anyone's lips,
the Cosby Show touched virtually everyone in America in a
TV sense during that era. Chen X may not be
alright tonight. That's because we collectively grew up with The
Cosby Show. Depending on your exact age, you felt some
affinity to one or some of the Cosby kids. Maybe
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you found yourself in similar straits as those fictitious kids did,
or you had a similar relationship with your parents as
they did. But the Cosby Show changed television, and Malcolm
Jamal Warner was right at the center of it. It
defied stereotypes, and it raised the caliber of television sitcoms. Yet,
in the sordid circle of life, gen X, which includes me,
(02:06):
now has somewhat gotten used to losing the TV dads
and moms of that era in the way most of
us have lost our real mothers and fathers, from the
departure of All the Golden Girls to Alan Thick and
Growing Pains, Alice's Lynda Lavin to George and Weezy Jefferson,
(02:27):
Tom and Helen Willis, Archie and Edith bunker Nell, Carter, Missus,
Garrett and Romano, mister Drummond, Uncle Phil all gone. But
they were our TV parents. But now we're in the
age of the kids of those parents. Leaving us our
generation from Luke Perry, Adam Rich, Gary Coleman. It's a
(02:50):
long list, and now we add Malcolm Jamal Warner to
that list. But my point is that life is catching
up to gen X in a real and undenied eyable way.
TV was supposed to be our escape as children, and
now it seemingly is coming down and just crashing all
around us.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It wasn't like Malcolm Jamal Warner was sick.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It wasn't like he had a drug problem and was
in general declining health. We just woke up this morning
and he was gone. Just another reminder that death plays
no favorites. He was younger than me, think about that.
Not by much, but he was younger than me. I
saw more life on this planet Earth than he did.
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I grew up seeing myself in the character Theo Huxtable.
There was nobody like him on TV that I could
personally identify with that matters to a kid. I couldn't
identify with either JJ or Michael Evans of Good Times
because I didn't grow up destitute in the projects. I
couldn't identify with Arnold or Willis Jackson because I didn't
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grow up in a penthouse on Park Avenue with a
guy who adopted me and was president of a transatlantic company.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
A's different strokes if you didn't And.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
By extension, I didn't grow up with any silver spoon
in my mouth, So no, Ricky Schroeder was a definite
no for me. The Cosby Show told a story that
most mirrored my upbringing and was a staple in my house.
And to have had the opportunity to hang out a
few times with Malcolm Jamal Warner as an adult was
oftentimes surreal, like I'm kicking it with THEO.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It was weird.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
He was always in and around the music industry, long
before he eventually won his Grammy in twenty fifteen. I
remember the first time I met him, and this is
just off the kuff. We spent like most of the
day together, Me and some other friends from the music
industry were at the standard Hotel rooftop party and he
was just as nice as he could be. But those
first impressions are the ones that will last forever for me.
(04:48):
He was a spoken word in music, artist in his
own right, having nothing to do with his television notoriety,
and as quiet as it's kept, he has worked the
most of the original Cosby cast since the Cosby Show
Bill Cosby included. He was always much more than theo
Huxtable or anything Cosby Show related. An extremely private man
(05:11):
who kept his wife and child out of the public
eye because he knew the perils of his celebrity and
social media. We could all take a page out of
his book, but be sure to check on your gen
X friends and relatives. Real life is life and right now,
and we may not be okay for kay. If I
am six forty, I'm Moe Kelly, and I often talk
(05:48):
about how, at least in my view, America, which I
love dearly, but I can also be honest about it.
It's presently an unserious COUNTRYUS because we are unable to
pass meaningful legislation, unseerious because the biggest news stories usually
have to do with what new congressional or DOJ investigation
(06:12):
has been started, or documents have been released, or something
more than eight years old to accomplish a whole lot
of nothing. For example, Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on
Monday that the DOJ has released documents related to the
FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email
(06:34):
server as if it were twenty fifteen, and some openly mused,
I'm being serious that maybe the investigation should be reopened.
That was Monday, And just in case you weren't sure
whether there was enough Hillary Clinton in your news diet,
the House Overside Panel voted to subpoena both Bill and
Hillary Clinton over possible links to Geley Maxwell. Just in
(06:59):
case you didn't. The House Oversight Committee is to ensure
the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the federal government and
all of its agencies and serve as a check to
the president and his actions. President as in sitting president,
not the one from twenty four years ago, as in
sitting president who also has direct ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
(07:23):
Let me say it again. We are an unseerious nation.
We want the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, right, right, but
we just don't want to address the elephant in the
middle of the room or the truth scaring us in
the face.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You can subpoena both Bill and Donald, right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But I wasn't kidding more Hillary, please, because that'll get
to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein and improve the economy
or not. But I wasn't kidding on Wednesday, d and
I Tulca Gabbert offered this headline, quote, Russia sat on
documents which detailed heavy tranquilize use by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Close quote.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And I really don't understand this, because is the contention
that Russia was not actually trying to intervene in the
twenty sixteen election because Russia sat on information that was
embarrassing or damaging to Hillary Clinton? Or is it just
another way of mentioning the phrase Hillary Clinton in twenty
twenty five because politics is like music radio, the rule
(08:23):
is to play the hits.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We are an un serious nation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And all of this is simultaneous to sending Congress home
early to avoid having a vote on releasing Jeffrey Epstein files,
because again, we are an un serious nation with no
serious designs on releasing anything meaningful regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Oh yeah,
I know, we release the MLK files because everyone was
asking for that. But then again I told you about
(08:50):
those files as Jeffrey Epstein files, they will never see
the light of day. Just semi chasing new and old
conspiracies to nowhere. In particular, Oh, in that new conspiracy
that former President Obama somehow was the architect of a
coup to get people to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Know that that is another conspiracy bridge to nowhere. Barack
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Obama is not getting subpoena, he's not getting indicted, he's
not getting arrested or in prison.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
How do I know? Because Senator Ted Cruz said, so that's.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
A hard heard look that there would be an argument
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's not going to be prosecuted for treason.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's not going to be prosecuted in all likelihood for treason.
But where the criminal liability will start is with members
of the Obama administration who went under oath before Congress
and lied.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Flat out lied.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We know Jim Clapper has lied repeatedly, and and that
that will be the beginning of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Okay, so we have another new investigation there. But that's
the party in power. That's what they're doing with their power.
But Democrats don't think you're going to get off easy.
You didn't care about the content of the Epstein files ever,
not now, not then. Maybe a member here or there
in Congress, like Jamie Raskin, but by and large y'all
(10:06):
Democrats had absolutely zero to say about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You could have.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Pursued Donald Trump in regard to Epstein during the Biden administration,
whether the case was sealed or not, and I know
it was sealed until twenty twenty four. I mean, you
pursued Trump in New York regarding the Stormy Daniel's payments.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That is the same state as Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You pursued Donald Trump with the classified documents in Florida
and DC. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein did live in Florida,
so there's some connection there. I mean, it wasn't like
it would have been beneath you, Democrats, because something tells
me you just are as afraid of the Epstein files
as the Republicans. Something as in more than just Bill Clinton.
(10:49):
It may not be just Bill Clinton. It could be
Bill Clinton and a few other Democrats, but clearly you're
afraid of something. But that goes back to what I said,
those files are never ever coming out, keilaid Maxwell speaking
of Jeffrey Epstein, is getting ready to trade a pardon
for keeping Trump out of her mouth. Yes, I said it,
I meant it, So that's another nail. In that coffin,
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and some Democrats are calling for an investigation, like Mark
Runner into the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
You let this a congressiatile investigation.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You know how stupid that is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
That's almost as stupid and unseerious as calling for two
sports franchises to change their names back to racial slurs
and racially insulting iconography.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So no dims.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You don't get to claim the moral high ground on Epstein.
We had the White House releasing an official statement today
getting into a Twitter fight with a freaking cartoon on
Comedy Central. That was just earlier today. But altogether, all
that happened just this week. We are in unseerious country
with an unseerious dysfunctional government. This is what happens when
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you destroy the lines between reality TV and governance. But
we chose this, we elected this, and we continue to
ask for more and wonder why nothing ever gets done
for k if I am six forty, I'm o Kelly.
(12:23):
We've had another mass shooting, this time in the heart
of Manhattan broad Daylight. It was brazen, it was pre planned,
and what amazed me was that there wasn't a higher
death toll.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Thank goodness for that. It could have been much worse.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
The shooter communicated that he thought he was suffering from
CTE from his football playing days. Why he was supposedly
self aware enough to know he was suffering from a
degenerative brain disease and clearly in control of his faculties,
yet decided, what forethought malice to drive across the country
and randomly murder people.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He could have just stayed home and offed himself. I
know that sounds heartless, but that would have been preferential.
I know I shouldn't try to make sense out of nonsense.
Although the specifics of this mass shooting are different, the
results are largely the same. Innocent people are killed. Elected
officials offer thoughts in prayers, elected officials call for quote
unquote sensible gun legislation, and others will call for further
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relaxation of gun laws and nationwide open carry. Nothing ever changes,
nothing will ever change. Here's why hashtag not all lives matter.
We as a country are emotionally comfortable with people needlessly dying,
dying violently dying needlessly broad daylight. Even a friend told
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me a long time ago about bad relationships. Have you
ever been in a bad relationship? I have, you know,
arguing all the time, fighting all the time. A friend
told me, MO, when you've honestly had enough, you will
end the real relationship. You will not put up with
the same old, same old, over and over again. You
will get tired of the fighting and arguing. When you
have had enough, you will change things. America has not
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had enough of watching innocent people, children in school worshipers
and church people in movie theaters, law enforcement at all
dying due to gun violence. We have a gun culture
that we just can't get enough of in America. And
we love that gun culture more than we love life itself,
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more than our children, more than our mothers, more than
our police officers. It's an abusive relationship on the level
of Icantina or oj and Nicole. And I'm not being
funny in the least because it is that abusive, that violent,
and that deadly. It's an abusive relationship we can't get
out of or get enough of. The political arguments never change.
(15:00):
Have you been paying attention? The platitudes never change, the
prayers never change. The gun violence hasn't changed. Why is
that because we haven't changed. Gun violence hasn't changed, and
it hasn't changed us.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
We are numb to it.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We are okay with it. And that's the more serious point.
We have had more than one generation grow up in
a country which is comfortable with watching people walk into
public places and try to kill people indiscriminately. Columbine was
twenty six years ago. There is something wrong with us
as a nation. Every country on the face of the
earth has to deal with mentally unstable people, suicidal people,
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homicidal people, but we're the only ones dealing with this
level of gun violence. There's no single law which will
solve this problem. And honestly, I don't think we want
to solve the problem, but we damn sure could do
more than what we're doing. We're not doing more because
say it with me. We are okay with mass shootings
and innocent people, including children, dying. We are comfortable watching
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police officers being carried out in body bags like officer
Islam was today. We politically talk about rapists and murderers
or terrorists crossing the southern border, but Americans are far
more efficient at killing Americans than anyone else. And it's
not even close. Because hashtag not all lives matter. In fact,
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hashtag nobody's lives really matter, as evidence by our collective
response to mass shootings. And I can't care about America
more than America does itself. I can't care about police
officers being outgunned and gunned down in cold blood than
America does because today, and this is just anecdotal, I
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saw way too many arguments about whether this shooter was
carrying at AR fifteen or an M four, as if
that freaking mattered. We as a country, we've lost the plot.
The point of at all should have been always protection
of life. For all the political commentary about being life
or right to life, we're way too cavalier watching people
die in gun violence or lack of health care for
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that matter. Here's another and lasting, uncomfortable truth about those
who died in New York City. We as in America
do not care beyond the symbolic, because if we actually
substantively cared, we would do something to help prevent or
lessen the likelihood of these mass shootings ever happening again.
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Only with gun violence do we throw our hands up
and act like we are just powerless to protect one another.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We don't do this for airplane crashes.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You notice that we didn't do it for the opioid
crisis or even natural disasters. We change laws, guidelines in
federal oversight immediately, and we are ever attempting to improve
safety and mitigate loss of life, except with guns. So honestly,
save your thoughts, you can keep your prayers. Just leave
me out of your political discussions. Just say that their
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lives don't matter. And the ones who will die the
next mass shooting, which is tomorrow or next week, or
next month or all three, they don't matter either, because
that is way more believable than saying they do.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay't by a six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm Mo Kelly, conservative podcaster and all around irritating individual.
To me, Magan Kelly, no relation is against a pardon
for music mogul Sean Didty Combs.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Now we can agree on that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I am not for any pardon a Sean Didty Combs,
but we don't agree on the reasons why President Trump
should not pardon Diddy. Here's what Megan Kelly wrote on
social media. Quote Trump should not pardon Diddy. He doesn't
deserve it. He's a Trump hater, he's a woman abuser.
(18:57):
Maga is already upset over elite seeming to cover for
each other. This would not help GOP struggling with young
female voters, most of whom will hate A ditty pardon
she could have, and I would say she should have
edited her post after typing Trump should not pardon Diddy
should have just left it at that. But to frame
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someone as either deserving or not deserving of a pardon
and have it based on insufficient fealty or subservience to
a political ideology, it's not only dishonest in regard to
the purpose of a pardon in the first place, but.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It gives away the game.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
When she followed up with how it wouldn't help Trump
politically with young female voters. That's why, in large part,
why presidents historically have pardoned people on the way out
the door. So it's not a thing about an upcoming election,
because it shouldn't be about a future vote. But I know,
I know it's twenty twenty five and those days.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Are long gone.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And yes, I read President Biden the right act on
this very show when he pardoned his son. I am consistent.
Already know what you're thinking before you even try to
think it or say it. There's a podcast, you'd be
able to find it, save your notes. It's not necessary.
But I do remember once upon a time, and Twala,
I think you remember too, because we've been doing this
a long time. Not so sure about Mark, but probably Stefan.
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We remember once upon a time when partons used to
be about, at least the pretense of writing some injustice
or commuting the sentence of someone who had shown either
remorse it had shown rehabilitation while incarcerated. That's what it
used to be like. Now they're just political tools of
quit pro quote. But back to Ditty, we as in
(20:38):
Macon Kelly and me the relation again. We agree that
Ditty is a woman abuser. That's what Megan Kelly said.
He is a woman abuser, and I quote. But here's
the thing about that. He's not the only woman abuser.
So is Donald Trump, who was found officially liable of
sexual assault of journalists e. G. And Carroll adjudicated in
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a court of law, just like Ditty. If being an
abuser of women is a bad thing, then that should
be a rather easy standard to uphold, and we should
be able to hold more than just rap moguls to
that standard.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
As for whether Ditty will eventually get his pardon. We
know that Trump is wholly transactional. He has to get
something out of it to extend the pardon, and a
pardon of Ditty or even Glayden Maxwell in connection to
the Jeffrey Epstein scandal will be a political calculation because
there is nothing on principle which suggests that a pardon
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of either or both is honorable or balancing the scales
of justice. Both of them were tried and convicted of
their various crimes. Yes, Ditty was acquitted of some, but
he was convicted of others. But here's the biggest and
most important point I want to make tonight. Victims of
sexual assault should be the only consideration, not voters.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's easy enough to understand, right, Can I leave it right?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Is that easy enough? Good for k? If I am
six forty, I'm mo killing
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