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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well there's lame.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Kelly one K.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Sixth F. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, but
we're on YouTube and also Instagram Live. Harry Potter and
the Cursed Child is a completely new story telling of Harry,
now grown and with kids of his own, taking some
maybe nineteen years after the seventh book, Now on stage
at the Hollywood Pantagious Theater through June twenty second.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
People always look.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
When you three together, popwooks will be the making of you. Albus.
I promise you there is nothing to be frightened of.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
There four Albus Potter and I'm Scorpio.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Smilefoy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Our parents didn't get on.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You do not want to do this?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Yes I do.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm nothing like my dad.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You're better.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You're my best friend, Albus. A mistake been made.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
We're going to use a time term to save Cedric
dig our journey has only just begun.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
In fact, we'll be giving away not one, not two,
but three different pairs of tickets tonight and right now.
Ebony Blake, who plays Hermiah Ni Granger, joins me on
the show. Ebeny, A pleasure to have you on. How
are you this evening?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I'm just signed thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm pleased that you're here. Ebny.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You've done TV, I'm talking about Blue Blood's Bull, The Equalizer.
You've toured with some of the biggest stage productions in
the country, The Book of Mormon and Aida. Whereas Stage
seems and correct me if I'm wrong, Stage would seem
like it's eminently more demanding and rigorous, it also seems
like it's personally more rewarding.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Am I right?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You just hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I mean the thing about stage, I sort of liken
it as like a train trip, and as soon as
the train leaves the station, for better or for worse,
you know, you're kind of on the ride until you
get to the end. But the thing about it is,
you know, even though it's only a couple of hours
at night, there's preparation that you have to sort of
go through physically, mentally. You got to do your vocal
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warm ups. So I'm sort of getting ready to go
to work. If I'm due at six o'clock, then I'm
getting ready to go to work around three three point thirty,
and then I'm not done un till about eleven o'clock midnight,
when you come home and you kind of buzzing from
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, wow, that is a schedule.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
And you are an avowed Harry Potter fan of both
the books and movies, you understand the popularity of both.
Does that ever weigh on you as far as living
up to the expectations and fame of all things Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You know what it depends on.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
How it's sort of a glass half full, glass half empty.
It is such a wonderful responsibility. It feels like an
honor and a privilege to sort of assume the mantle
of these characters that everybody knows, everybody loves. And then
you know, with live theater, we have such license. It's
like once you come into this and everybody is kind
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of agreeing to have this sort of shared you know,
new idea and fresh take on it. You know, once
the story starts, I feel like the audience is with you,
and that's an exciting thing. Like you don't have to
live up to the movie because it's not a movie.
And as far as the books, you know, you can
come in with that knowledge, but that sort of enriches
what you see when you see the play.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Let's talk about that audience because I know that there
is a magical element to this. In other words, they
are actual magicians and illusions which are being performed, and
audiences may react differently from night to night to different
sets in different tricks. How does that impact your performance
or anyone else's performance. I will see the spontaneity of
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an audience.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
You know, I've cut my teeth, I've done so many
different kinds of performing jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
One thing that I've learned.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Is I try to treat each audience as if it's
the first time they've ever seen a story, as if
it's the first time that I'm getting to perform it
for them. So no matter how we get, you know,
because we're like hundreds of performances in But if I
know you've given your time, you've given your money, you
know you're bringing your family. You guys have gone out
to eat, you're dressed up. This could be your first
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time coming to see live theater. So no matter for
me if it's three hundred people, if it's twenty seven
hundred people. The amount of precision, the amount of care,
the amount of love and face that I want to
hold for the audience and for my my company members
and my crew members. I try to give it one
hundred percent every single time because you just you never
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know what somebody is bringing when they come into the theater,
and that care that they are giving to you to say,
I'm going to put my body in this space and
you know we're going to go on this trip together.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You made mention of the hundreds of shows that this
is a two part question. One, how long have you
been on tour prior to coming to the Hollywood Pantagous
Theater And what was the preparation like when you were
rehearsing for three weeks, four weeks, five weeks before you
act we went on tour?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Good question.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So we actually started rehearsals. We're coming up on a
year that this whole thing began. I've been with the
company since twenty nineteen, so I pretty much every adult
woman role in the play I have done it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
But now I'm only you know Hermione, which is lovely.
It's a dream.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And so we began rehearsals. What was that, I guess
July of last year. It took about six weeks because
you know, you got to learn all the choreography, you
have to learn the movement, you know, the illusions are
something in and of itself, of course, and then it's
the lines and the layering and figuring out what these
scenes are because you know, as much magic as there
is in the show, it really is a story about family,
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about friends, love, fathers, sons, these connections. You know, what
it is to be somebody that is in this magical
world but also have these really human connections with other people.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And so then when you left New York.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And then we got to Chicago, and then there's a
process called the tech process. So that's when they put
everything in the theater. And now you've added the lights,
and now you've outed the stage and the sound and
you know, more of the things that help us to
make this show what it is, because we couldn't do
it without our crew, you know, without our front of house,
and all these things sort of come together to make
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a touring company sort of complete. And we opened officially
in September in Chicago. We were there for about five months,
and I can't even believe I'm saying it. We will
have been here for four months by the time we leave,
which is wild because it seems like we just started.
But also, you know, we're about ready to sort of
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pick up six here and get to DC.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I have to wonder, because no two audiences are the same,
no two houses are the same. Is there a i
would say, an acclamation process going from let's say Chicago
to LA.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You're now in the Hollywood Pantagious theater.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Does it feel the same when you're on stage in
a different space or is there a period for you
as well?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You're so right.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I feel like these questions are so intuitive. You already
know the answer when you said it. It's exactly right.
It's different from space to space because as much as
we now know the show, we get to meet a
whole new, wonderful wardrobe crew, a whole new local house crew.
So that's the flyman, that's the electrics, that's the carpenter's
so then the whole symphony of everything that you don't
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see backstage, which makes everything go. We have to sort
of redo that every time we come into a new space.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's like that getting to know you period.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
But we've been so blessed because every team that we
have had is so communicative, they're so sharp, they're so
on it. They're all vets and pros at what they do.
So this very specific thing that we bring to them.
They kind of look at what we got and they go, okay,
we're good, and so you know, and then it's just
like you run around and you're switching clothes and doing
this and that and the other, and then you go,
wait a minute, I'm not at Chicago. I'm oh, this
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is different stairwell. Oh my gosh, I turned left, but
now I got to go right. So you sort of
got to get used to everything as you go.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Us right now is Ebony Blake, who plays Hermione Granger
in the news show Harry Potter and the Curse Child,
which is now on stage at the Hollywood Pantage's Theater.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'll have more with Ebony Blake, but also we'll be
giving away not one, not two, but three pairs of
tickets to shows of your choice.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (08:35):
KIM six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live
right now on YouTube. You can go to YouTube at
mister mokelly. We're live on Instagram at mister m'kelly, and
we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we're talking
Harry Potter and The Curse Child, which is now on
stage at the Hollywood Pantage's Theater. I'm speaking with Ebanie Blake,
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who plays Hermione Granger. And let's pick up right there, Ebane.
For those who are going to be seeing the show,
whether they win tickets from us or they purchase tickets
on their own, how would you set the stage pun
intended for what they will see?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I would say, well, you did such a fabulous job
at the beginning. It is the end of the very
last book in the series, and the family is all
on the platform nine and three quarters and now we're grown,
you know, where parents ourselves. We're sending our children to
Hogwarts for the first time. And so it sort of
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goes from there. We see Harry is this he's a dad,
he's a husband, and he's dealing with what it is
to have a career and feel like, you know, can
you really sort of juggle all of these things and
do everything successfully while he is still sort of processing
all of the emotional things that he went through in
the series as a child. Because of course, we know,
you know, these things don't go away, They just kind
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of met there.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
How does Harry not have PTSD?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
How does he turn into a responsible adult who's raising
kids on his own?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
This is the question I say every day to the
people backstage. I was like, the job we need in
the Wizarding world is a therapist. Why there's no therapist
in these books? I have no idea, but as hermione,
you know now I'm a mom, I'm a wife. I'm
minister from Magic, which is essentially the prime minister for
the wizarding community of England. And it is so crazy
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because it's, you know, that age old.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Thing like can she have it all?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Can she be professional and be the perfect mom, the
perfect wife, the perfect minister.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you just see that she's trying her best.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
And now Harry works for her and he's not dealing
with his stuff, and I'm like, listen, they're saying that
this is nepotism.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I need you to step it up.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I need you to get it together, like I pulled
you into this job because I know you can do it.
And then our kids, you know, as they sort of
pulled the story along and we see how our old
stuff and our relationships and the sort of easter eggs
that people love how that informs what these new kids
are going through, and it's just a really fun story
to tell every night.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I'm curious because we know Harry Potter, being set in England,
you will have these British accents. Are you performing with
a British accent or they moved that aside.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
No, we are definitely performing with British accents. And that's,
you know, part of the preparation that comes into getting
ready for the show every night, sort of like making.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Your mouth do all these vowels.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
And you know, I'm from Ohio, so sometimes I have
to check in because it can get real country.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But I've been doing.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It for so long now, it's it literally is muscle
muscle memory.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But it is such a fun thing to do every night.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Is there anything that you specifically look forward to? Is
it a scene? Is it a song? Is it a
dance movement? Is it an audience reaction of a certain
age group.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I tend to love when we get bus groups of
kids in school.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They get so excited and I am thrown with.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
How emotionally intelligent these children are.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
They come, they don't miss a trip.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You know, Harry, when he's arguing with his son Albus
or you know, when Ron and Hermione are having these
moments of connection or miss connection, you know, depending upon
where they are in the story.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
These kids are so sharp.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I said, I don't know that I was that emotionally
smart when I was that age, and I love their reactions.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Honestly, it's selfish to me.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I love it when I come out afterwards and they go,
You're exactly what I thought Hermione was gonna be like
when I read the books. You know, you just I
loved it, and I it's such an honor to me
because Emma Watson, who played the part so beautifully in
the films.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You know, people might have an idea of what they.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Think Hermione is and then by the time the show
is done, they're like, oh, no, it was you.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It was you the whole time. And I'm like, that
is That's so cool to me.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So I love that you kind of took my next
question because I'm always curious if the younger generation is
being exposed to stage and theater presentations, musicals, anything that's
a theatrical performance, and you answered that for me. I know,
as a kid who grew up going to performances, stage
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and theater performances and seeing musicals.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It completely changed my life.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
My question here is were you exposed to that as
a child?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
And you know what the funny thing was, I you know,
my grandma raised me. I was raised in the church,
So there is a little bit of theatricality that and
that's exactly what it is. And so from that then
I thought I wanted to be a doctor. And I
went to an autopsy and I said that's not for me.
And then I got introduced to theater and I discovered like, oh,
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this is how I can connect with people, this is
how I'm supposed to do it.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And then from there it just it kind of took off.
But I definitely think that it is so important.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
And after the past you know, decade that we have
come through as a globe really and with the advent
of social media and like phones and everything being so removed,
there is a certain kind of magic and power that
comes into live connection. And why we drew on walls
as cave people, and you know, the the rise of theater,
like the Greco Roman theater and Shakespeare, why it's been
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an art form that has lasted for so long. I
think we need it. There's a catharsist that comes with it,
you know, and it's just one of those things. I
think that it is so powerful and important for young
people to be able to express themselves in that way
and to see it happen on stage.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Ebany Blake, my time with you has run short, but
still I.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Still have one more one more question of you, and
is that Can you help me give away these three
pairs of tickets to see Harry Potter and the Cursed
Child at the Hollywood Pantagious Theater.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It would be my pleasure. Listen, I want to give
fifty tickets away. Don't quote me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
There's what you want and there's what you can do,
and that's it. So what I need from you is
three different numbers between one and ten.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh okay, let's go with three mm. We'll do seven
and let's do five. So three five.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Seven, three five seven, callers number three five seven, You
and a guest will be attending Harry Potter and the
Curse Child at the Hollywood Pantagious Theater. Caller number three,
five and seven. I like to thank my guest, Ms.
Ebede Blake, who plays Formione Granger and Harry Potter and
the Curse Child. I hope to be able to come
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out and see you perform sometime. Miss Blake, thank you
for coming on this evening.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Thank you so much for having me, and looking forward
to whoever gets to come see the show.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Thank you for being there.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
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We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app. Just
is there a time limit on sequels and prequels?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Can you wait too long?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Or is there no expiration on a sequel or a prequel?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
To tell a story which turns into a sequel.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
As long as somebody can squeeze a dime out of it,
it's still good.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We know that movie studios are open to it if
it still makes money. But I'm just saying as a
theater goer, as a fan of movies, like, for example,
if I told you that there was going to be
a Rambo, not excuse me, not going to be. There
is a Rambo prequel which is just premiered at the
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Camp Film Festival in France. Would you be interested me?
I don't know if I want to see Rambo in
I don't know, basic training or when he's in, you know,
his formative years as a soldier before he goes to
Vietnam War. I don't That doesn't really interest me. You're
not going to have stallone, You're not going to have
Richard Krenna. The actors kind of do make the character
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and the story in this sense.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I don't know if I want to see that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And I would like to consider myself to be a
Rambo fan, as cheesy and corny as it got to be,
you know, a Rambo three, four, five, or however many
they had. I actually liked the most recent Rambo movie.
I really did. I've lost track. What was the most
recent one, The one where he had to I guess
going to Mexico to save someone's daughter.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Oh yeah, the last couple were just insanely brutal. No,
they were brutal, and that's why I liked it.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm just saying I don't know what story there is
to tell, because we know in today's world, Rambo has PTSD.
He's not a functioning member of society. He's psychotic. He's
had a psychotic break which led to the events of
the first Rambo.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
That first movie in nineteen eighty two was really good,
and he was supposed to die at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
He was supposed to And this is something that I
think Sylvester Stallone does not get enough credit for.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He is actually a good actor in that one.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, well, I'm just saying I think he hasn't taken
the roles which show off his acting range. But if
you watch Tulsa King, he's really good. If you saw
him in Creed, he's really good. It's just that a
lot of the vehicles that he's used over the years
have been more just for generating money, not Academy awards.
As far as an actor. I heard Tulsa King's really good.
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I heard he does a really good so it's very funny,
and he is good. He's glib, he's deadpan. It's just
a good show, good show. But I don't know if
I want to see a Rambo movie that has nothing
to do with Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I saw the headline. I don't know. I don't know, guys,
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
One thing we know is that this is a character
that Sylvester Stallone cares more about than any other, even
more so than Rocky. This is a character that he
always wants to get right because of his respect for
the military, his respect for what vets go through. And
he is like, I never want to get Rambo when
he said, and he said this in an interview. When
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I got control of Rambo, I wanted to do Ramble.
That's why you saw the later films really focus on
me acting and the character I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But he was Rambo talking about a movie He's not.
I know.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
But do you think that he's gonna slip and let
someone come in to actually replace him and it be bad?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, no, I think you're missing my point.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's not about whether it's an accurate portrayal of someone
in the military who served during the Vietnam War. That's
not my concern. I'm talking about a very specific character
of John Rambo. Yes, and what we know about that
character is John Rambo inhabited by Sylvester Stallone. Not all
prequels are attractive to me, this is one of them.
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I would rather see John Rambo get older and older
and get more adept at killing than going back to
when he was eighteen, nineteen twenty and fighting in Vietnam.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So you want to see a continuation to the last,
which for me was my favorite Rambo.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Look, no disagreement, I'm just saying I would rather see
more stallone I got.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Kind of like Creed
like you might maybe pass the baton.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Maybe I don't know if you could pass the baton
in a in a psychotic way.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
But if you can't, you can't pass this baton. You
can't bring up a young Rambo to god a kids.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
There's no happy ending for the real quote unquote John
Rambo in real life. That story never ends. Well, how
many people was he killed? Countless?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, literally can't count them. But what's the premise of
the prequel? Is this how he became an unstoppable killing machine?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Or what? This is him?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
This is this is Rambo in Vietnam, This is him
in Vietnam, right, and it's supposed to take place right
before uh he gets out of the military and finds
himself in a town going up against Brian Dennehy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I have to I have to interject.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Now, this is according to Deadline, Hollywood Solvester Stallone is
aware of the project, but he's not currently involved.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Ah no, no, no, no hell no.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Answer.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
No no, this is a no. There's no way you
do this. A pots on this film. He don't do it.
I'm just saying, hey, story says don't. Hey, whoever's evolved,
don't you do it? Don't you do it.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
They're obviously going to do it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They're getting ready to start principal photography in October in Thailand.
So the movie is moving forward. It was announced it
can so it's an actual thing. It has some sort
of budget. I'm quite sure they'll be open to more funding.
But if you have a Rambo movie which is obviously
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not going to have Sylvester Sloane starring or producing, I
can't in good conscience.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Look we saw what happened, and look I'm look. I
appreciate Michael B. Jordan for taking on directing and for
him wanting to take the Creed name and BAM under
his own wing, but create three, which had nothing to it.
Literally acted as if Rocky didn't exist, if Rocky was
a figment of everyone's imagination.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
And had no.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Role in taking him to where he is, which was
highly disrespectful. Every One who was a fan of Rocky
walked out of that film saying, hell not, I don't
care if the movie was good for me. I walked
out thinking of myself the disrespect that they broke off
of this film.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I couldn't even enjoy it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I can appreciate Michael B. Jordan's slash Ryan Coogler slash
Creed franchise moving in a different direction, but to act
like Rocky and all of that history did not exist
in Rocky three. And I tell people all the time,
if you happen to like Create three, it's because you're
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a Michael B. Jordan fan, not a Rocky fan. There
it was nothing in that movie for Rocky fans. I
am a Rocky fan, I am a sly fan. I
knew at some point Rocky was going to have to
die air quotes in the storyline, and you have to
move beyond the Rocky franchise, but you don't have to
dismiss it and disown it as if it never happened
and it didn't exist.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Yeah, that was highly disrespectful. This film here is another
level of distortion. It takes you to a whole another
level because Sylvester Stone isn't even involved at all.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Re Rey on the YouTube chap says, it's fiction, Tula
lighting up.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
No, hell no, re Read, you're not a fan of films.
I don't even know why you entered the chat. Exit
the chat because you don't know what we're talking about.
You've never seen a Rocky film or a Rambow film.
You all know that it's fiction. It's not about whether
it is a documentary.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's the fact that if you have a franchise, there
is an established expectation what that franchise is supposed to contain.
And if you don't have anything related to Sylvester stallone,
then you don't have anything to the original Rambo story. Sorry, no,
I'm not interested. And if they're asking for my money,
they're asking for your money. And if they're not going
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to give anything which I think is worth our money,
then no, I don't have to support that.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
It's not about lightning up. It's just you're lucky. I
like the name re Re. I'm a fan of the
name re Re. Otherwise I would block you from the chat.
That's how wow.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You a blocker? From Motown. That's how serious I am
about this.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
She's no longer one of the mofoss laughing out. So
you know, look, you're gonna get a runner in a second. No, No,
I wouldn't dream of it.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm kind of curious about this now, just on a
pure trash level, because the original level. Yeah, the original
Rambo was one of those movies that came out less
than twenty years after Vietnam ended about soldiers coming home.
Like you remember Rolling Thunder, one of my.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
All time favorite movie, Rolling Thunder, the Deer Hunter.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There was a cottage industry of post Vietnam War movies
and they all not's at all, but many of them hit.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, and so Rambo was kind of a ridiculous superhero movie,
but not as ridiculous as they got right after that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I don't know if even the Vietnam War tracks or
has any real connection to movie goers by and large
in today's world that you're trying to market this movie too.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Oh no, it was fifty years ago right now.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
That's why they moved the story of Iron Man up
to the wars in the Middle East versus its original story.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Look, and that's where they had to update or they
will have to update Magneto and he's not going to
be set.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
In World War II. He'd be ninety years old. Yeah,
so it can't be Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, relive in the Vietnam War and understanding how the
Vietnam War impacted society as well as soldiers, how America
had pushed back on the Vietnam War and had my word,
shunned soldiers who would come home from Vietnam they were
spat on. Yes, that's not going to have the same
type of emotional impact or it's not you're going to
(25:54):
you're not gonna be able to connec because people don't
remember that didn't live through that as far as moviegoers go.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
But that original Rambo was such a perfect, essentially a
drive in movie premise, although it had an A list
star at the time. Uh, traumatized Vet comes home to
a redneck town and is unfairly bullied and fights back
and then has to go on a revenge spree.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
What it's an exploitation, Drew Firth, They did.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, I kind of do a cooker day, Drew perf
I don't know about that. As his crooked mouth. Yes,
when we come back, we're gonna stay right at Camp
Film Festival. Did you see the story about Denzel Washington
and how he went at at a photographer. I'm sorry
it's a visual, but we'll have it on our YouTube channel.
Denzel Washington got into a spat with a photographer who
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put his hands on Denzel not once, but twice.
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Let me very quickly talk about Denzel Washington. There's a
video floating around regarding an incident that Denzel Washington had
with a can Film Festival photographer. And it's not as
(27:19):
it's originally being reported. It's being reported as some tense
red carpet moment.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's actually more than that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It actually was an assault by the definition of the term.
We're playing the video right now on the YouTube video Cybalcast,
and you have a photographer he seems French from just
reading his lips, it seems like he's speaking French, and
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he pulls on Denzel not once but twice, grabs his
whole arm. Denzel points to him after the first time,
point to his face and saying very clearly stop.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Stop.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Denzel turns to walk away, and the photographer again grabs
him by his bicep to pull him in, either for
some sort of shot or question. I guess it's a
shot because he's only holding a camera. I don't understand
how anyone thought that was gonna be okay now with me.
(28:23):
And this is something I've kind of talked about, but
I haven't really talked about it. I don't like just
people touching me, especially if I don't know you. He
just come up and, you know, put your hand on
my shoulder back and there. I just don't like that.
You can judge me however you want back to the
sorry real quick Halloween horror nights. I can never saying yes,
same thing right there. And in this video you see,
(28:44):
there's an E News video that we've been showing on
our YouTube channel. This guy without any type of permission
or acknowledgment that he's getting ready, like he's gonna say
like he's not reaching out to get Denzel's attention, He's
reaching out to pull Denzel to him physically pull him
on two different occasions. How Denzel managed to not knock
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this guy out. I don't know because me I'm swinging,
especially when you do it the second time after I
told you to your face to stop.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Yeah, the first time that you grabbed me unawares, I'm
going to react instinctively. If you grab me unawares, I'm
going to react as if I'm being assaulted. And that's
not my fault. It's just been drilled into me. As
soon as someone puts your hand their hands on you
that you don't know out of nowhere, expect something bad
(29:37):
to be happening. I don't care if you're out in
the middle of a crowd of people. I don't know you,
you don't know me, don't put your hands on me.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Period.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Credit to Denzel obviously, he's been doing this for decades
and he understands he's on the red carpet, so they're
literally hundreds of cameras on him, trained on him. He's
on the red carpet. He has far more discipline than
I would in that situation. He's not traveling with bodyguards,
a body person who's standing over his shoulder keeping people back.
(30:09):
He's just there by himself. To his credit, but it's
been misreported as far as what actually transpired. First, it
was like there was some sort of a misunderstanding or something.
It's like, no, the guy grabbed Denzel not once, but
twice and forcibly pulled him to the to the photographer,
I would have punched him.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I mean it, not sayings like trying to be tough.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I'm just saying that is a reasonable response to someone
who is grabbing you and pulling you. And Daniel, our
video technical director, made a great point.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Imagine if it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Wasn't Denzel but an actress, would you would you have
had the same type of response if they had pulled
on a woman in that way, regardless of being post
me too. It's like he is manhandled. Yeah, the photographer
would have been roasted. And then after the camera uh
the photographer did it the first time, Denzel put his
finger in the camera's face, telling him stop, stop, and
(31:04):
the photographer just laughed in Denzel's face and then grabbed
him again, which means it's intentional and you are trying
to start something. And I would have obliged him. Yeah,
at least he would have been shoved back. I mean,
I look, I get it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Denzel's a consummate professional and in the public guy. He
knows all eyes are watching him in that red carpet moment.
He is there with Spike Lee, and I believe asav
Rocket they're promoting the new Spike Lee film.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, was it not upside down?
Speaker 7 (31:37):
I can't remember the name, so I get it they're
there for that, and and all the cameras are on you.
But that in no way will ever excuse this type
of behavior. This is a very aggressive paparazzi and he
should he should at least have his press pass revoked.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And clearly this guy did not feel that there would
be any type of repercussions, which says to me this
probably has happened to more than one person. It just
so happened that we saw it and it was video
trained on Denzel at that moment. Yeah, pretty damn, pretty
damn comfortable to think you can grab Denzel Washington not once,
but twice. Do you think he did it so that
(32:17):
maybe he could get some kind of like TMZ style
gorilla you know, fight going. Oh No, I don't know.
I don't know about the motivation for anything, because I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
It was just blatant. I don't definitely try to go
these stars into a reaction. They do that constantly. And
just once when you liked them to see turn around
and like have a little risk control and put the
guy on his knees.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yes, I would look. I would have loved if he
did like a wrist lock on him. It's liked because
once you grabbed me, it's like the fight is on
at that point. Yeah, that's what I would want to see.
And I was like, please grab me, please, because then
I could tork your wrists and make you bend to
my will.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
At that point, let's see a nice spiral fracture, right,
And I'm quite sure Denzil's like, I'm seventy years old.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I don't need this. I don't want the negative publicity.
I don't want the lawsuit. I get all that, But
a part of me wish she would have knocked that
mother father out hit him one good time. And I'm
not saying that I'm a proponent of violence, but I'm
a proponent of violence in this instance.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Hmmm, see bofos. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, act
Bill Belichick is getting freaking engaged. Oh yeah, we just
had that.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
He's seventy three and his fiance you don't girlfriend anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Twenty four The stripper has to take away, Damn, you
date the stripper, you don't marry the stripper.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Wow, I don't think she was a stripper?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Was she?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I don't she is?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Now?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I mean, well, no, he's just saying you're speaking metaphorically
to avoid a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
No, no, no, no, she's not a stripper. She's just a
gold digger. Yeah.
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