June 4, 2024 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A conversation with filmmakers Kat Jayme and Asia Youngman regarding their new ESPN ‘30 for 30’ documentary, “I’m Just Here for the Riot” which profiles the shocking riot that took place after the Boston Bruins beat the Vancouver Canucks in Game 7 of the 2011 Stanley Cup…PLUS - Disney+ has officially started password sharing crackdown AND a major data breach at Ticketmaster has exposed the personal information of 560 million customers - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty This
city of Vancouver, this has theedge of seat. How did it happen?
The Boston Bruins. I want toStanley coup what so it's definitely regret.
All was the firelight? You know, I got swept up in it.
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These folks are not hockey fans.They will not be able to hide.
These Vulgarians defecated on the reputation ofone of Canada's first cities. All
of this has been tweeted or fedlive on you name it. It is
out there for police to use forthe future. Rioters are now being hunted
on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr.And I had friends blowing up my phone
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and saying, have you seen thenews? Have you seen the Internet?
You should check your Facebook. KFIAM six forty years later with mo Kelly,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. On June fifteenth, eleven,
the Vancouver Cannects Game seven Stanley CupFinals loss to the Boston Bruins sparked a
massive riot in downtown Vancouver. Policecars were overturned and burned, windows shattered,
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stores looted, thousands were part ofthe Mayhem. The new ESPN thirty
for thirty documentary film I'm Just Herefor The Riot chronicles the Riot, its
aftermath and continuing legacy, premiering tomorrow, June fourth on ESPN and streaming on
ESPN Plus. I'm Just Here forThe Riot, as directed by Vancouver based
filmmakers Kat Jamie and Asia young Men, who both join me now on the
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line. Kat Asia, how areyou ladies doing this evening? Good?
Thank you, thanks for having us. Kat. Let me start with you.
The US is not unfamiliar with riots, or even sports riots, but
I'm not sure the same can besaid about Canada. You don't often hear
about sports riots, and you almostnever hear about sports riots in the city
of the losing team. What wasit about this game which led the city
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of Vancouver down this path? Well, actually, you know what's so interesting
is that you kind of think thatlosing teams would riot just because of the
frustration after a losing but it's actuallythe opposite. So through our research,
we found that there was a studyconducted over hundreds of sports rights in North
America and Vancouver is actually the onlycity that riots after a loss it's actually
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jubilation that turns into riotous behavior that'smore common, and so in Vancouver.
What's interesting about this though, isthat this is the second time it's happened
in Vancouver. So Vancouver we lostin nineteen ninety four for the exact same
reason and we rioted, and thenit happened again in twenty eleven. Asia,
you both watched the game and riotfrom inside the city. At what
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point did either of you, youAsia or you Cat? At what point
did you know that the anger wasgoing to spill over into the streets.
Yeah, so I was actually downtownwatching the game outside of CBC on West
Georgia Street, where kind of themain riots started, and I remember the
energy that was in the air whenwe realized that there was no coming back,
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you know, I think it wasabout three zero at that time.
We realized that we weren't going towin Game seven, and that disappointment just
really spread throughout the crowd of thousandsof people, and people started chanting.
At one point, someone threw abottle at the screen, and it was
scary for me because I was nineteenat the time. I felt like something
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was going to happen, and somy friends that I decided to leave,
and probably a couple of minutes afterI left the West Georgia Street, I
saw you know, dark smoke billowingup over a high rise and I had
heard that a car had been flippedand lit on fire. And luckily I
left the city pretty quickly. ButI remember getting home and looking you know,
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on TV and seeing the destruction thatwas happening, and it was very
shocking as someone who is from Vancouverand just seeing that, you know,
this has happening for a second timein Vancouver as well. Kat As I
listened to Asia, she reminds meof something which makes this very personal.
It's one thing to see a riotunfold on TV. It's another thing to
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experience it on the ground level,where your own personal safety has to be
taken into account. What is itthat you may gain from watching I'm just
here for the riot because we're watchingit from a distance, not experience it
as you did firsthand. What's what'sdifferent about experiencing it on the ground firsthand?
Of course, it's a I'm moreheartbreaking for Asian I as well,
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because we are from Vancouver and justto see your own like your your neighbors,
kind of destroying the place that yougo hang out with your friends or
you know, you know, thestreets that you that you walk and the
stores that you visit and frequent forno like, there is no righteous cause
that we were you know, thatthe city was fighting for. So it
was just it's very puzzling, verydisturbing, very heartbreaking. One of the
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goals of the film though, isto really play audiences like we want to
make audiences feel like they were therethat night. So, you know,
we had a great editing team,and you know that the riot sequence is
pretty it's quite intense, and youknow, we wanted to make it that
way because we really wanted to makeyou feel like you were there, and
so we kind of chose some ofthe most outrageous, infuriating footage from the
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riots that we had access to toinclude in the film. Asia. As
I talk about experiencing the riot firsthand, ground level, there's probably something that
you might have learned in doing thisdocumentary. I'm just here for the riot.
You may have learned something or experiencedit from a different vantage point.
Was there anything new for you inthis process that you might have learned or
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realized in this compilation of these momentswithin the riot. Yeah, I think
for Kat and myself, we bothlearned so much by chatting with folks who,
you know, maybe participated in theriot, what led up to that
decision to participate in the riot.A lot of them were quite young at
the time, had maybe gone downtownwith no intention of getting involved, but
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were just curious, or you know, they had heard of the nineteen ninety
four ride and wanted maybe their ownphotos and videos from that night. So
I think for us, I thinkjust learning about why people decided to participate,
looking at mob mentality as a factorof maybe why someone might get caught
up in that type of behavior ormaybe make a decision to leave. There's
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a lot of conversations about was themedia to blame before showing footage from nineteen
ninety four and putting that idea intopeople's heads. But at the same time,
the police department didn't want to haveany conversations about the potential of a
riot, right. So I thinkeven though it had happened in nineteen eighty
four, we were still very unpreparedfor twenty eleven. And I think because
smartphones were so prevalent and kind ofchanged the outcome of that event, And
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of course seeing what happened on socialmedia of an online witch hunt was what
really separated those two particular riots.And I think when we talk to a
lot of people who were targeted onlinewere canceled online, everyone said that the
repercussions of social media were a lotworse than what they faced in terms of
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a sentence in court. So Ithink just seeing the dangers of what happens
when we take things into our ownhands online and how people can essentially separate
someone by being behind like a keyboardand writing hurtful comments. They don't really
think about people being humans in away. So there was so much that
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we learned. It's hard to pinpointexactly one thing, but I certainly took
away a lot from making the filmand also just thinking more about my own
relationship with social media and how Iinteract with it as well. I know,
as a hockey fan, I knowas a sports historian, the importance
of hockey as the national winter sportfor the country of Canada. How much,
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if all, did that figure intothe feeling that Vancouver should have won.
I know there was controversy about howthe series was officiated. I remember
this firsthand. How much of itwas actually connected to the game and sport
and how much of it was justconnected to mob mentality? Do you think?
I mean my opinion, it wasa bit of both. Like it
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was like the utter disappointment and itwas the fashion that that connects how how
we lost, you know, thefact that we were up in that series.
We were we were such a greatteam. We were you know,
we won the President's Trophy that year. And the way I think at each
game just you could you could youcould sense the tension, and you could
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feel it in the air, likeas soon as we lost one game and
then we lost the next, andnow we have to go we were going
to game seven, and then youknow, as soon as the Boston scored,
I think there was like a statlike the first the first team that
scores in a you know, agame seven finals usually the team that wins,
so like that, then that's upagainst us now, and and so
I think it was just a veryvery nerve wracking time for the city.
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And then of course at the backof everyone's mind is that last time we
lost, we rioted, So isthat can happen again? So again,
a lot of factors that went intothis riot. I'm just here for the
Riot chronicles the aftermath of the twentyeleven Game seven Stanley Cup Finals Riot.
It premieres tomorrow, June fourth,on ESPN and streams on ESPN Plus.
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It's directors Kat Jamie and Asia Youngman. Thank you for what you've done and
congratulations on your wonderful documentary. Thanksmuch. Bo you're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. And I've made it very
clear I love the movies. Ilove the idea of going to the movies
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less so in recent years because Ican get everything that I want at home,
even the movie that I want,if I'm willing to be patient.
If you look at the box officethis week, there were no major new
releases. The box office is offto a hideous start for this summer,
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just in terms of box office receipts. When you have Garfield is out for
a second week, the Garfield movie. Week one, it came in second
place. Week two. This weekit came in in first place with only
fourteen million for a domestic total offifty one million. That's not a good
start to the summer movie season atall, and it's not a movie that's
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for me. I get that,but there's really nothing that's offered as an
alternative for moviegoers like me. Garfieldhas gross one hundred and fifty two million.
The movie itself is doing well,but not good enough to prop up
the whole movie theater industry. Andit's not the responsibility of one movie to
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do that, but some movie hasto do that. Because it's the summer
movie season. Kids are out ofschool, depending on the school so there
needs to be an emphasis for peopleto go to the movies seventies a week,
not just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, to keep these movie theaters opens.
Wallace Sharp, you actually went tosee Garfield? Yes? I did.
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Did you go to see it ordid you take your kids to see
it? I took my daughter togo see it, and conversely, interestingly
enough, my son, who Idropped off at the mall to hang out
with his friends, him and hisfriends, they also decide to go see
it. They're a bunch of seventeenalmost eighteen year olds. Eighteen year olds,
right, so they all wanted togo see you know, hey,
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they like Garfield, they like cats, and cat movies and things like that,
and of course yes, I tookmy daughter. Theater was packed.
It was to the point where what'sthe city. We went to the Tapanga
the Tapanga mall okay, yeah,And I was at the Tapanga diaing in
and actually, no, my sonwent to the Depended Dying ind though that
was sold out, the regular nonthree D show, and I don't like
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three D movies, so we actuallyand my daughter actually went over to Northridge,
so we split up to see itmy theater where me and my daughter
packed. My son said his theaterwas packed. It was all packed.
Conversely, Furiosa was not packed.And I asked the people at the theater,
it's like, hey, so FiOSto do for the same show at
this time, Like oh, there'sno one in there. I'm like,
okay, got it. I didnot like it as much as when I
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saw the test screening of the film. Both me and my daughter agreed because
the test screening was a lot moreentertaining. They took out a whole lot
of story and they simplified it anddumbed it down, and I was like,
wow, this is actually not ascompelling a story. Seeing it in
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its final final iteration. Would therebe a director's cut? Do you think
they could stuff some of that back? They might be able to, and
they should, because there's a lotof humor and there's a lot of heart
that they cut out to sacrifice andjust go with a really run of the
mill story. They the way theyedited it. I did not enjoy it
like I did, but the kidsthat did, literally in my theater,
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they started clapping and cheering in theend. I don't know what presence Garfield
has these days. Is there aTV show, a cartooning, No,
there's nothing, And I'm thinking thismight be like the lead into like a
new series. Maybe this is howthey're going to try to reintroduce them,
because, uh, the theater waspacked with parents, primarily with younger kids.
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I'd say, like a lot ofparents with tin and under was the
main audience that we saw. Butyou know a lot of the adults in
there, they liked it. Alot of the adults. I mean you
could see they were visibly enjoying it. They were awake. I took a
quick, quick nap, quick quicknap and even record you no, no,
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no no. My daughter was likedaddy, I still wanted to take
a nap to but the kid nextto me kept bumping my seats. I
couldn't sleep. How did Chris Prattdo? It's great? Chris Pratt as
the voice of Garfield, Great,Sam Jackson as Garfield's father. Great,
everyone was great. A couple ofweird cameos that actually weren't in the original,
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Like there was some voice work fromSnoop. Then I was like,
when did they add Snoop? Andwhy did they add Snoop? Not that
I just like Snoop, but itwas just so like, like we know
that you Snoop? It was itdidn't he didn't try to mask. He's
got a great agent. He didn'tknow. Hey, so it's got the
best agent. So yeah, soyou could definitely hear Snoop's voice in there.
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But yeah, I can see whyGarfield's number one. Is it because
that it's a decent movie or isit because there's just no competition? It
is because there is nothing else forparents to take their kids to see.
Now that it's getting closer to summer, And these were the earlier shows.
I don't know about maybe the showsthat you know, seven Pass, they
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were probably going to be a littleemptier, but all the daytime shows they
were all packed, and you couldsee the theaters were packed with parents with
kids outside. There were kids playingin the little garden that they have outside
of the North Rist Theater. Itwas a lot of kids in the building
at this point. If you haven'tseen Furiosa, you're probably not going to
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go to the movie theater by andlarge to see it. You're going to
either not see it at all,or you wait till it appears on some
streaming service that took a serious hit. Yeah, yeah it did. If
it's not doing particularly well either inits third week. There's just really no
big box office blockbusters that are eithercoming very soon. I mean Bad Boys
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four, that's not a big blockbustermovie. It's not primed to do a
half a billion dollars. But youknow what's interesting about Bad Boys for and
also Furiosa, Each one of thesemovies that has come out has claimed that
the summer begins now, because thatwas that was the tagline for Fiosa.
The summer begins now with Firiosa,which arguably for Memorial Day weekend it should
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have. But now Bad Boys fouris like the summer actually begins with Bad
Boys for and it's coming out whennothing else is out, so it's gonna
do really good first weekend. Well, we'll see. And this is why
I would recaution here. Will Smithis fifty five, Martin Lawrence is maybe
fifty six fifty seven. I don'tknow how much appeal they have to the
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twenty five in under crowd, andyou need them to really propel a movie.
Am I gonna see it? Yes? Absolutely, But I saw the
first three when they came out,and their contemporaries of us. You know,
we're in the same age group,So yeah, I would actually see
that. But I don't know ifthat goes the way of furiosa, where
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you're really speaking to a segment ofthe movie going population, not the wide
variety of moviegoers. What say you, Mark, I say, make Will
Smith eat a hole lasagna and shoveod off a table. And I'm in
nothing, really nothing nothing. Giveme some crickets for that. Yeah,
yeah, Robin, you gotta getready with the crickets. At least we've
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definitely not gott to get a rimshot. Yeah, crickets are a rim
shot. You gotta have your fingerson those two buttons constantly aren't we going
to Bad Boys on Friday? Yeah? Yeah, no, y'all are going.
I'm not going. How are yougetting out of this? I gotta
go, And you're not going becauseI'll be in a different state getting ready
to deliver a eulogy for a funeral. So you'll go to those lengths to
get out of seeing that movie.That is a logical progression of thought.
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Yes, okay, Yeah, that'sgreat. Thanks for the loyalty. Appreciate
it. Sorry, you know hecalls or death whichever. Well, if
that's what you got to do toget out of it. Yeah, look,
I will get on a plane andfly to get away from you,
spend the night with no hair.Maybe this is going to be a direct
flight to Maryland. Okay, allright, Well, appreciate it. So
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I guess it's just me and Tawalaand Foush doggy dog. I think he's
back. I'm coming down with something. Actually, I'm not feeling very well,
right we are you afraid that he'sgoing to get back at you?
Yeah? Why would he do that? We don't. We don't do that
here, we don't. We don'tdo revenge. That's that's very vindictive.
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Yeah, listen, I recorded himsnoring out of love as a friend.
That's how you're going to tell thatstory is an intervention because I because I
care about him. Oh, therewas no malice involved in recording him while
he was snoring louder than most peoplecan yell in the middle of furiosa.
It's still there was nothing funnier thanwhen he started himself with his popcorn on
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this stomach and the popcorn went everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. I wish I
had filmed it. Now. WhereI went wrong was only recording the audio
and not just filming the whole thing. Well, you guys are gonna have
to have some fun without me.But it's a dismal box office season as
of yet, and we're just,for the most part waiting for Deadpool Wolverine.
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Yeah, got the tickets for that, you know, Mark. Actually,
I'm looking at the tickets and Ijust remembered I need to get my
break serviced on Friday. I thoughtI got tickets for bad Boy at two,
but this says twelve, so thathe'll still be asleep. Yeah,
what are you trying to do tome? Yeah, no, no,
no, I don't think we cango if I can find a later show,
I will well, things are lookingup. Nah, okay, then
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please keep me posted. Speaking ofthings looking up, Disney Plus is now
officially started passwords sharing crackdown. Iknow that's not looking up, that's actually
looking down. We'll talk about thatwhen we come back. If I AIM
six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadioapp, you're listening too later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. We have talked about streaming and
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the growth of the streaming market,the evolution of the streaming market. Some
things I was right about, somethings I was very wrong about. One
of the things I was very wrongabout, and I have no problem admitting
it. About a year ago,Netflix had announced that they were going to
be cracked down on password sharing,and I thought it was a bad idea.
I thought that they would lose subscribers. I thought they were going to
push their own subscriber base to otherplatforms. It didn't work out that way,
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and it's a copycat, copycat game. It worked out wonderfully for Netflix,
and then the rest of the streamingplatforms have been falling in line.
I didn't think it would go thisdirection, but it has. Disney Plus.
It hasn't started here in America asof yet. That won't be until
September, but get ready for it. They've started in other countries around the
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world. Disney Plus has started blockingpasswords sharing between friends and family. The
decision to force each household to havetheir own account was here. It is
specifically inspired by Netflix, and themove will prevent customers from sharing their login
details with people outside of their household. If it's anything structurally like Netflix,
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it probably will require you if you'renot on the home Wi Fi where the
account is registered, you'll probably haveto log in your account on that home
Wi Fi every so often, maybeevery thirty or sixty days, to prove
that you're a part of the household, and then you'll be able to use
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it elsewhere. But like, forexample, I share it. I have
no problem saying this. I sharemy Disney Plus account with my mother.
I pay for it. She comesover to my house every now and then,
but for the most part she's ather house. I may have to
get her an account because I'm notgonna make her come over to my house
just so she could log in herlaptop or something to have the Disney Plus
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coverage. And it's going to forcepeople to make this decision. I still
think in the long run, Idon't know if they're endearing customers to folks,
but it is coming. The bandwill start in a few countries first,
according to Bob Iger, including theUK and the US will deal with
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this in September. It will preventcustomers from sharing the log in details with
people outside of their household. Subscriberswill be charged an additional fee to watch
Disney Plus on multiple devices outside theirhome, just like Netflix. As I
said, it's because of Netflix Netflix'ssuccess, Disney is doing this. Disney
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Plus will track its users' IP addresses, as well as device IDs and account
activity to determine whether viewers are inthe same household or not. In Disney
Plus's UK help center, its statesquote you may not share your subscription outside
of your household, and the definitionof a household is the primary personal residence
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of the account that pays the billsand the devices under that roof. Like
I said the home Wi Fi,only people who live in the primary personal
residence will be able to watch fromthe Disney Plus linked to that address.
Subscribers will be able to watch itoutside of their home, but only for
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a limited amount of time. InDisney's new subscriber agreements to states, quote,
unless otherwise permitted by your service plan, you may not share your subscription
outside of your household. Mark,do you have Disney Plus? I have
a friend's Disney Plus. And Idon't like this totalitarian routine here. No,
I don't like it all After Netflixis a crackdown a Netflix. Their
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profits went up in the first quarterto climb to more than one point to
No. Two point three billion andincrease total subscribers to two hundred and seventy
million. It worked, and itworked like gangbusters. Well, I'm sure
they were struggling. They needed themoney. Well, you know, here
we go. Mark is capitalism.They're in the business of making money,
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not altruism. No, no,nobody could ever mistake this for that,
right, right, right, Sopeople gonna have to make some decisions.
I don't know right now. Ihave a year subscription and I probably won't
renew it. But if I do, it will be with the new bundle.
And I don't know how I'm goingto handle my mother and other folks.
You know, just gonna see you'reon your own, mom. Sorry,
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Well it depends. I don't thinkshe uses it as much as I
know. She doesn't use it asmuch as I do. It's just a
point of I want it available whenevershe wants to use it. Mom's not
a big Mandalorian fan, No,but she would watch the Disney movies like
Soul or the Pixar movies things likethat. She definitely watch those. Okay,
so she would. She has utilityfor it, but she's not using
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it for all the series like youand I are. Twala Wood. Well,
then you won't feel bad about cuttingher off. No, I would
feel bad because I'd like to haveit wherever she wants something or needs something.
She need not ask, It's alreadythere. I pay for most of
her streaming stuff. It's just easier, Yeah, because it's just easier for
me to set up on her device, download the apps, that kind of
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thing, and just go. It'sjust easier. I think it's time to
get a little bit more ruthless withmoms since things are going up in cost.
No, I'll tell you this,and she probably won't like me telling
you this, or telling the world. My mother came from a different time.
In fact, my father was verydifferent. He was he was going
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to handle all the bills. He'sgoing to do everything. In fact,
he gas up all the cars.My mother does not put gas in her
car. I put gas in hercar. She lets me know when she's
low on gas, and I driveover and I take her car and I
fill it up. Does she livefar from you? About ten miles from
me? Could you put gas inmy car? Yeah? If you were
my mother, But you're not.Well, you're not my daddy in any
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literal sense of either. Hear ofthose. No, No, I cannot
ask twallet. He's closer to you, all right, whichever works, that's
fine. No, No, Imean he is literally closer to you right
now, and closer to you asfar as where you live. Also,
i'd like a Disney subscription when Iget cut off on my friend's thing.
That's fine, that's fine. Ican't help you with that either, But
yeah, you're welcome to ass up. Well, anything else that you would
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like that you won't get. It. Hasn't been the most productive conversation we've
ever had, has been. No. We saw us so well, we
were agreeing on everything, and nowwe have nothing in common. Yeah,
thanks for nothing. Okay, movingon, yes, okay, at least
you didn't get a rim shot.That's all the matter. Someone's catching on.
It's Later with mo Kelly. Whenwe come back, we'll check in
with George North Coast to Coast amin just a moment. And also,
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do not forget. Before the weekis out, we will be giving away
tickets to Disney's The Little Mermaid atLa Marada Theater. Do not think that
we've forgotten about that. And tomorrowwe'll give away another pair of tickets to
super Freak, the Rick James Story. So much good stuff coming your way.
Just keep on listening. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand
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from KFI AM six boarding. Beforewe get out of here, Mark,
Yes, I'm waiting on your apology. Okay, you hurt my feelings for
what exactly, just what you justYou never apologize, So I just want
a blanket apology, Just a blanketapology. It's coming. It's on the
way. Just stand by for that, all right, open one, I'll
keep you fuck all right. Let'stalk about Ticketmaster before we get out of
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here. Ticketmaster's parent company says it'sinvestigating a possible data breach after a group
of hackers claimed to have stolen thepersonal information of five hundred and sixty million
Ticketmaster customers. Five hundred and sixtymillion. It doesn't say how far back
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this data may go, but Iassume if you've purchased tickets in the past
twenty years, your information probably probablynot definitely, but probably was contained in
the five hundred and sixty million.And what do I always say, I
say it just about every month atsome point. The whole idea of privacy
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is an illusion. If you thinkthat you haven't had your data exposed at
some point, you're probably deluding yourself, be it medical information, private information.
It's out there and it may notbe something that you personally chose to
do. It may not be anyfault of your own. But because we
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live in this digital age, andfor the most part, we're forced to
give out our information here and there, it's going to get out there eventually.
In a securities filing, Ticketmaster ownerLive Nation said it identified unauthorized activity
within a third party cloud database environmentcontaining company data. Back on May twentieth,
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the hacking group Shiny Hunters claimed ithad obtained one point three terabytes of
Ticketmaster user data, including names,addresses, phone numbers, as well as
order details and credit card information.The hackers were selling the debt the data
on the dark web for five hundredthousand dollars. Ticketmaster's parent company says it
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is in investigating a possible data breachand they're trying to see where it will
lead. A week later, thehacking group shining Hunters as a fright excuse
me Live Nation said there was noevidence that the data breach had a material
impact on its business operations. Whatabout a material impact on our lives?
They just take their word for it. Another reason to love them, right,
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Well, but I think of itthis way. It's nice to know
that it didn't bother you ticket Masteredanyway. No, no, no,
didn't have a material impact on ouroperations. Well that's fine, But I
don't care whether it impacted you.I care whether it impacted me. Can
you tell me of my data isout there? The only thing they're saying
is no, you know, we'rejust moving ahead, business as usual.
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The company added that it is workingto mitigate risk to its users and has
notified law enforcement. Oh great,so they called the police. What does
that do for me? Well,listen, the important thing is that Ticketmaster
is okay, And and you wouldthink Ticketmaster would be a little bit more
delicate with giving customers more bad newsgiven all the bad press that it's been
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receiving for the past year or so, or at least break it a little
nicer like the old cats on theroof story, you know. According to
the DOJ, Shiny Hunters as marketedstolen data from over sixty companies in the
US and globally since early twenty twenty. They are busy. Quote. The
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victims range from tech companies to aninternational stock trading company, to an apparel
company and a nutrition and fitness company. Millions of customer records were included in
the stolen data. Yeah, andthis cyber attack comes as Ticketmaster faces legal
battles. We handed at that backon May twenty third, the DOJ and
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thirty state and district attorneys general fileda federal lawsuit against Live Nation allegend it
was a monopoly. We talked aboutthat, and if the suit doesn't reshape
Ticketmaster, then probably this data breach. Well, there's nothing positive for Live
Nation or Ticketmaster this point. Thiscompany is not going to survive as it's
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presently constructed if there was a listof the most hated companies in the United
States, where do you think Ticketmasterwould fall on that. I don't know
if everyone understands that Ticketmaster is thedevil. Yeah, yeah, I think
they have gone under the radar,if only because not everyone buys concert tickets,
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but if you have bought a concertticket in the last what, I
don't know, thirty years, Yeah, they're on your radar. They may
be on their radar, but Ithink they've been on people's radar more for
the past two to three years becauseof their dynamic pricing, because people have
been more vocal about their complaints.But that's just more recently. I don't
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know if that's always been the case, but yeah, they are moving up
the lists quickly. Ticketmaster completely separatefrom Live Nation. I'm not really clear
on how Live Nation is the parentcompany for Ticketmasters. Okay, thank you?
So I hate them both, Well, yeah, they're basically one in
the same. Got you know.I don't know if it's Ticketmaster live Nation
a Live Nation Ticketmaster, but they'reinseparable, a pox on their one house.
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Yeah, they are basically Siamese twins. Can I say that anymore?
Yeah? Conjoined twins is so boring. Okay, Siamese is much more interesting.
It's more yucks with Siamese. Allright. I just want to make
sure because my goal is to bepolitically correct at all times. A plus,
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did I fall short? No?No, you're doing great. Okay,
it's it's been good to be withyou on your final show. I
can joined whatever they might have beenfrom Siam. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I like those Siamese cats.What's what's wrong with the twins? What's
what's funny? What's funny that evolved? No? Seriously, when you think
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of evil companies, does Ticketmaster evenrise to that level? You know,
I haven't bought a concert ticket inthe longest way. Like the last time
I bought concert tickets, I boughtthem directly from the Hollywood Bowl from their
website, so it didn't go throughTicketmaster and I, and they were very
upfront with the costs, like likeeven after the final tally, it wasn't
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like the tickets were fifty dollars facevalue, and all of a sudden I
get hit with one hundred and fiftydollars bill. No Hollywood Bowl face value
tickets. Perfect. I would notthough I would not be against putting a
pox on the house of Live NationTicketmaster, because I know how much they
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have reamed. Can you say thatFox Fox? Yeah? Oh, my
co pair would buy tickets to liketell Us with or Beyonce or whatever,
take in our daughter to these showsand she's always like, oh my god,
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these fees on the back end whenthey get you. I usually try
to buy directly from the house,not go through a Ticketmaster or a ticket
broker. I'm saying calling someone overthere. I'm not trying to get tickets
online. Just can't do it,can't do it. Tell me, though,
do you not think of Ticketmaster andI guess Live Nation in the same
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way that you think of an insurancecompany, in that they're just parasites who
contribute nothing. Yeah, but it'smore abstract for me, if only because
working in the music industry, therewas a good fifteen years where I paid
for not one concert ticket, notone, so there was no animosity to
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be had. My connection to Ticketmasteris only through news articles. Now.
I don't have any personal animus becauseI haven't been subjected to that. Every
concept that I've been to since Idon't know when has been because of passes
or press showings or or whatever.So as long as they've been fleecing everybody
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else but you, No, no, no, I've talked about it that
no no, no, I said, I talked about it. I have
no problem talking about the stories.I just don't have a first person point
of reference of paying these large feesbecause I never would ever. It's just
what those things were. I justwon't go. I'm not going to pay
four times the face value of theticket or whatever it is because of all
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these fees which are added on togo see a performer. I've seen everyone
I want to see, and anyonethat I do want to see, I
will call in a favor, achit or something. Well, I think
I need to exploit our friendship morethan I have been. But is there
a way to get around those fees, like if you if you actually physically
go to the box office of theplace, or is it just unavoidable?
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Is it fate they still charge youa service fee. There's a service fee,
but you don't pay all the ticketmasterfees. If I'm not mistaken,
if you go to the box office. A part of that is that convenience
fear of whatever it is of purchasingthem online. Yeah, the hell with
them, just download stuff. Imean, can't doubt that's the life.
Yeah, how are you gonna dothat? Never mind, look at the
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time. We will see you tomorrow. We'll be joined on the show by
Stokely, who is the star ofSuper Freak, The Rick James Story.
We will be giving away a pairof tickets, and maybe we'll give away
some Disney The Little Mermaid tickets aswell for Lamarade Theater. All I know
is we're gonna be giving away somethingtomorrow because that's how we do it.
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Here on later with Mo Kelly canif. I am six forty. We're
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty This
city of Vancouver, this has theedge of seat. How did it happen?
The Boston Bruins. I want toStanley coup what so it's definitely regret.
All was the firelight? You know, I got swept up in it.
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These folks are not hockey fans.They will not be able to hide.
These Vulgarians defecated on the reputation ofone of Canada's first cities. All
of this has been tweeted or fedlive on you name it. It is
out there for police to use forthe future. Rioters are now being hunted
on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr.And I had friends blowing up my phone
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and saying, have you seen thenews? Have you seen the Internet?
You should check your Facebook. KFIAM six forty years later with mo Kelly,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. On June fifteenth, eleven,
the Vancouver Cannects Game seven Stanley CupFinals loss to the Boston Bruins sparked a
massive riot in downtown Vancouver. Policecars were overturned and burned, windows shattered,
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stores looted, thousands were part ofthe Mayhem. The new ESPN thirty
for thirty documentary film I'm Just Herefor The Riot chronicles the Riot, its
aftermath and continuing legacy, premiering tomorrow, June fourth on ESPN and streaming on
ESPN Plus. I'm Just Here forThe Riot, as directed by Vancouver based
filmmakers Kat Jamie and Asia young Men, who both join me now on the
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line. Kat Asia, how areyou ladies doing this evening? Good?
Thank you, thanks for having us. Kat. Let me start with you.
The US is not unfamiliar with riots, or even sports riots, but
I'm not sure the same can besaid about Canada. You don't often hear
about sports riots, and you almostnever hear about sports riots in the city
of the losing team. What wasit about this game which led the city
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of Vancouver down this path? Well, actually, you know what's so interesting
is that you kind of think thatlosing teams would riot just because of the
frustration after a losing but it's actuallythe opposite. So through our research,
we found that there was a studyconducted over hundreds of sports rights in North
America and Vancouver is actually the onlycity that riots after a loss it's actually
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jubilation that turns into riotous behavior that'smore common, and so in Vancouver.
What's interesting about this though, isthat this is the second time it's happened
in Vancouver. So Vancouver we lostin nineteen ninety four for the exact same
reason and we rioted, and thenit happened again in twenty eleven. Asia,
you both watched the game and riotfrom inside the city. At what
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point did either of you, youAsia or you Cat? At what point
did you know that the anger wasgoing to spill over into the streets.
Yeah, so I was actually downtownwatching the game outside of CBC on West
Georgia Street, where kind of themain riots started, and I remember the
energy that was in the air whenwe realized that there was no coming back,
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you know, I think it wasabout three zero at that time.
We realized that we weren't going towin Game seven, and that disappointment just
really spread throughout the crowd of thousandsof people, and people started chanting.
At one point, someone threw abottle at the screen, and it was
scary for me because I was nineteenat the time. I felt like something
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was going to happen, and somy friends that I decided to leave,
and probably a couple of minutes afterI left the West Georgia Street, I
saw you know, dark smoke billowingup over a high rise and I had
heard that a car had been flippedand lit on fire. And luckily I
left the city pretty quickly. ButI remember getting home and looking you know,
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on TV and seeing the destruction thatwas happening, and it was very
shocking as someone who is from Vancouverand just seeing that, you know,
this has happening for a second timein Vancouver as well. Kat As I
listened to Asia, she reminds meof something which makes this very personal.
It's one thing to see a riotunfold on TV. It's another thing to
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experience it on the ground level,where your own personal safety has to be
taken into account. What is itthat you may gain from watching I'm just
here for the riot because we're watchingit from a distance, not experience it
as you did firsthand. What's what'sdifferent about experiencing it on the ground firsthand?
Of course, it's a I'm moreheartbreaking for Asian I as well,
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because we are from Vancouver and justto see your own like your your neighbors,
kind of destroying the place that yougo hang out with your friends or
you know, you know, thestreets that you that you walk and the
stores that you visit and frequent forno like, there is no righteous cause
that we were you know, thatthe city was fighting for. So it
was just it's very puzzling, verydisturbing, very heartbreaking. One of the
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goals of the film though, isto really play audiences like we want to
make audiences feel like they were therethat night. So, you know,
we had a great editing team,and you know that the riot sequence is
pretty it's quite intense, and youknow, we wanted to make it that
way because we really wanted to makeyou feel like you were there, and
so we kind of chose some ofthe most outrageous, infuriating footage from the
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riots that we had access to toinclude in the film. Asia. As
I talk about experiencing the riot firsthand, ground level, there's probably something that
you might have learned in doing thisdocumentary. I'm just here for the riot.
You may have learned something or experiencedit from a different vantage point.
Was there anything new for you inthis process that you might have learned or
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realized in this compilation of these momentswithin the riot. Yeah, I think
for Kat and myself, we bothlearned so much by chatting with folks who,
you know, maybe participated in theriot, what led up to that
decision to participate in the riot.A lot of them were quite young at
the time, had maybe gone downtownwith no intention of getting involved, but
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were just curious, or you know, they had heard of the nineteen ninety
four ride and wanted maybe their ownphotos and videos from that night. So
I think for us, I thinkjust learning about why people decided to participate,
looking at mob mentality as a factorof maybe why someone might get caught
up in that type of behavior ormaybe make a decision to leave. There's
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a lot of conversations about was themedia to blame before showing footage from nineteen
ninety four and putting that idea intopeople's heads. But at the same time,
the police department didn't want to haveany conversations about the potential of a
riot, right. So I thinkeven though it had happened in nineteen eighty
four, we were still very unpreparedfor twenty eleven. And I think because
smartphones were so prevalent and kind ofchanged the outcome of that event, And
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of course seeing what happened on socialmedia of an online witch hunt was what
really separated those two particular riots.And I think when we talk to a
lot of people who were targeted onlinewere canceled online, everyone said that the
repercussions of social media were a lotworse than what they faced in terms of
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a sentence in court. So Ithink just seeing the dangers of what happens
when we take things into our ownhands online and how people can essentially separate
someone by being behind like a keyboardand writing hurtful comments. They don't really
think about people being humans in away. So there was so much that
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we learned. It's hard to pinpointexactly one thing, but I certainly took
away a lot from making the filmand also just thinking more about my own
relationship with social media and how Iinteract with it as well. I know,
as a hockey fan, I knowas a sports historian, the importance
of hockey as the national winter sportfor the country of Canada. How much,
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if all, did that figure intothe feeling that Vancouver should have won.
I know there was controversy about howthe series was officiated. I remember
this firsthand. How much of itwas actually connected to the game and sport
and how much of it was justconnected to mob mentality? Do you think?
I mean my opinion, it wasa bit of both. Like it
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was like the utter disappointment and itwas the fashion that that connects how how
we lost, you know, thefact that we were up in that series.
We were we were such a greatteam. We were you know,
we won the President's Trophy that year. And the way I think at each
game just you could you could youcould sense the tension, and you could
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feel it in the air, likeas soon as we lost one game and
then we lost the next, andnow we have to go we were going
to game seven, and then youknow, as soon as the Boston scored,
I think there was like a statlike the first the first team that
scores in a you know, agame seven finals usually the team that wins,
so like that, then that's upagainst us now, and and so
I think it was just a veryvery nerve wracking time for the city.
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And then of course at the backof everyone's mind is that last time we
lost, we rioted, So isthat can happen again? So again,
a lot of factors that went intothis riot. I'm just here for the
Riot chronicles the aftermath of the twentyeleven Game seven Stanley Cup Finals Riot.
It premieres tomorrow, June fourth,on ESPN and streams on ESPN Plus.
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It's directors Kat Jamie and Asia Youngman. Thank you for what you've done and
congratulations on your wonderful documentary. Thanksmuch. Bo you're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. And I've made it very
clear I love the movies. Ilove the idea of going to the movies
(09:48):
less so in recent years because Ican get everything that I want at home,
even the movie that I want,if I'm willing to be patient.
If you look at the box officethis week, there were no major new
releases. The box office is offto a hideous start for this summer,
(10:11):
just in terms of box office receipts. When you have Garfield is out for
a second week, the Garfield movie. Week one, it came in second
place. Week two. This weekit came in in first place with only
fourteen million for a domestic total offifty one million. That's not a good
start to the summer movie season atall, and it's not a movie that's
(10:35):
for me. I get that,but there's really nothing that's offered as an
alternative for moviegoers like me. Garfieldhas gross one hundred and fifty two million.
The movie itself is doing well,but not good enough to prop up
the whole movie theater industry. Andit's not the responsibility of one movie to
(10:56):
do that, but some movie hasto do that. Because it's the summer
movie season. Kids are out ofschool, depending on the school so there
needs to be an emphasis for peopleto go to the movies seventies a week,
not just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, to keep these movie theaters opens.
Wallace Sharp, you actually went tosee Garfield? Yes? I did.
(11:20):
Did you go to see it ordid you take your kids to see
it? I took my daughter togo see it, and conversely, interestingly
enough, my son, who Idropped off at the mall to hang out
with his friends, him and hisfriends, they also decide to go see
it. They're a bunch of seventeenalmost eighteen year olds. Eighteen year olds,
right, so they all wanted togo see you know, hey,
(11:41):
they like Garfield, they like cats, and cat movies and things like that,
and of course yes, I tookmy daughter. Theater was packed.
It was to the point where what'sthe city. We went to the Tapanga
the Tapanga mall okay, yeah,And I was at the Tapanga diaing in
and actually, no, my sonwent to the Depended Dying ind though that
was sold out, the regular nonthree D show, and I don't like
(12:05):
three D movies, so we actuallyand my daughter actually went over to Northridge,
so we split up to see itmy theater where me and my daughter
packed. My son said his theaterwas packed. It was all packed.
Conversely, Furiosa was not packed.And I asked the people at the theater,
it's like, hey, so FiOSto do for the same show at
this time, Like oh, there'sno one in there. I'm like,
okay, got it. I didnot like it as much as when I
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saw the test screening of the film. Both me and my daughter agreed because
the test screening was a lot moreentertaining. They took out a whole lot
of story and they simplified it anddumbed it down, and I was like,
wow, this is actually not ascompelling a story. Seeing it in
(12:50):
its final final iteration. Would therebe a director's cut? Do you think
they could stuff some of that back? They might be able to, and
they should, because there's a lotof humor and there's a lot of heart
that they cut out to sacrifice andjust go with a really run of the
mill story. They the way theyedited it. I did not enjoy it
like I did, but the kidsthat did, literally in my theater,
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they started clapping and cheering in theend. I don't know what presence Garfield
has these days. Is there aTV show, a cartooning, No,
there's nothing, And I'm thinking thismight be like the lead into like a
new series. Maybe this is howthey're going to try to reintroduce them,
because, uh, the theater waspacked with parents, primarily with younger kids.
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I'd say, like a lot ofparents with tin and under was the
main audience that we saw. Butyou know a lot of the adults in
there, they liked it. Alot of the adults. I mean you
could see they were visibly enjoying it. They were awake. I took a
quick, quick nap, quick quicknap and even record you no, no,
(13:58):
no no. My daughter was likedaddy, I still wanted to take
a nap to but the kid nextto me kept bumping my seats. I
couldn't sleep. How did Chris Prattdo? It's great? Chris Pratt as
the voice of Garfield, Great,Sam Jackson as Garfield's father. Great,
everyone was great. A couple ofweird cameos that actually weren't in the original,
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Like there was some voice work fromSnoop. Then I was like,
when did they add Snoop? Andwhy did they add Snoop? Not that
I just like Snoop, but itwas just so like, like we know
that you Snoop? It was itdidn't he didn't try to mask. He's
got a great agent. He didn'tknow. Hey, so it's got the
best agent. So yeah, soyou could definitely hear Snoop's voice in there.
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But yeah, I can see whyGarfield's number one. Is it because
that it's a decent movie or isit because there's just no competition? It
is because there is nothing else forparents to take their kids to see.
Now that it's getting closer to summer, And these were the earlier shows.
I don't know about maybe the showsthat you know, seven Pass, they
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were probably going to be a littleemptier, but all the daytime shows they
were all packed, and you couldsee the theaters were packed with parents with
kids outside. There were kids playingin the little garden that they have outside
of the North Rist Theater. Itwas a lot of kids in the building
at this point. If you haven'tseen Furiosa, you're probably not going to
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go to the movie theater by andlarge to see it. You're going to
either not see it at all,or you wait till it appears on some
streaming service that took a serious hit. Yeah, yeah it did. If
it's not doing particularly well either inits third week. There's just really no
big box office blockbusters that are eithercoming very soon. I mean Bad Boys
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four, that's not a big blockbustermovie. It's not primed to do a
half a billion dollars. But youknow what's interesting about Bad Boys for and
also Furiosa, Each one of thesemovies that has come out has claimed that
the summer begins now, because thatwas that was the tagline for Fiosa.
The summer begins now with Firiosa,which arguably for Memorial Day weekend it should
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have. But now Bad Boys fouris like the summer actually begins with Bad
Boys for and it's coming out whennothing else is out, so it's gonna
do really good first weekend. Well, we'll see. And this is why
I would recaution here. Will Smithis fifty five, Martin Lawrence is maybe
fifty six fifty seven. I don'tknow how much appeal they have to the
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twenty five in under crowd, andyou need them to really propel a movie.
Am I gonna see it? Yes? Absolutely, But I saw the
first three when they came out,and their contemporaries of us. You know,
we're in the same age group,So yeah, I would actually see
that. But I don't know ifthat goes the way of furiosa, where
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you're really speaking to a segment ofthe movie going population, not the wide
variety of moviegoers. What say you, Mark, I say, make Will
Smith eat a hole lasagna and shoveod off a table. And I'm in
nothing, really nothing nothing. Giveme some crickets for that. Yeah,
yeah, Robin, you gotta getready with the crickets. At least we've
(17:29):
definitely not gott to get a rimshot. Yeah, crickets are a rim
shot. You gotta have your fingerson those two buttons constantly aren't we going
to Bad Boys on Friday? Yeah? Yeah, no, y'all are going.
I'm not going. How are yougetting out of this? I gotta
go, And you're not going becauseI'll be in a different state getting ready
to deliver a eulogy for a funeral. So you'll go to those lengths to
get out of seeing that movie.That is a logical progression of thought.
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Yes, okay, Yeah, that'sgreat. Thanks for the loyalty. Appreciate
it. Sorry, you know hecalls or death whichever. Well, if
that's what you got to do toget out of it. Yeah, look,
I will get on a plane andfly to get away from you,
spend the night with no hair.Maybe this is going to be a direct
flight to Maryland. Okay, allright, Well, appreciate it. So
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I guess it's just me and Tawalaand Foush doggy dog. I think he's
back. I'm coming down with something. Actually, I'm not feeling very well,
right we are you afraid that he'sgoing to get back at you?
Yeah? Why would he do that? We don't. We don't do that
here, we don't. We don'tdo revenge. That's that's very vindictive.
(18:36):
Yeah, listen, I recorded himsnoring out of love as a friend.
That's how you're going to tell thatstory is an intervention because I because I
care about him. Oh, therewas no malice involved in recording him while
he was snoring louder than most peoplecan yell in the middle of furiosa.
It's still there was nothing funnier thanwhen he started himself with his popcorn on
(19:00):
this stomach and the popcorn went everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. I wish I
had filmed it. Now. WhereI went wrong was only recording the audio
and not just filming the whole thing. Well, you guys are gonna have
to have some fun without me.But it's a dismal box office season as
of yet, and we're just,for the most part waiting for Deadpool Wolverine.
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Yeah, got the tickets for that, you know, Mark. Actually,
I'm looking at the tickets and Ijust remembered I need to get my
break serviced on Friday. I thoughtI got tickets for bad Boy at two,
but this says twelve, so thathe'll still be asleep. Yeah,
what are you trying to do tome? Yeah, no, no,
no, I don't think we cango if I can find a later show,
I will well, things are lookingup. Nah, okay, then
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please keep me posted. Speaking ofthings looking up, Disney Plus is now
officially started passwords sharing crackdown. Iknow that's not looking up, that's actually
looking down. We'll talk about thatwhen we come back. If I AIM
six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadioapp, you're listening too later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. We have talked about streaming and
(20:11):
the growth of the streaming market,the evolution of the streaming market. Some
things I was right about, somethings I was very wrong about. One
of the things I was very wrongabout, and I have no problem admitting
it. About a year ago,Netflix had announced that they were going to
be cracked down on password sharing,and I thought it was a bad idea.
I thought that they would lose subscribers. I thought they were going to
push their own subscriber base to otherplatforms. It didn't work out that way,
(20:37):
and it's a copycat, copycat game. It worked out wonderfully for Netflix,
and then the rest of the streamingplatforms have been falling in line.
I didn't think it would go thisdirection, but it has. Disney Plus.
It hasn't started here in America asof yet. That won't be until
September, but get ready for it. They've started in other countries around the
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world. Disney Plus has started blockingpasswords sharing between friends and family. The
decision to force each household to havetheir own account was here. It is
specifically inspired by Netflix, and themove will prevent customers from sharing their login
details with people outside of their household. If it's anything structurally like Netflix,
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it probably will require you if you'renot on the home Wi Fi where the
account is registered, you'll probably haveto log in your account on that home
Wi Fi every so often, maybeevery thirty or sixty days, to prove
that you're a part of the household, and then you'll be able to use
(21:53):
it elsewhere. But like, forexample, I share it. I have
no problem saying this. I sharemy Disney Plus account with my mother.
I pay for it. She comesover to my house every now and then,
but for the most part she's ather house. I may have to
get her an account because I'm notgonna make her come over to my house
just so she could log in herlaptop or something to have the Disney Plus
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coverage. And it's going to forcepeople to make this decision. I still
think in the long run, Idon't know if they're endearing customers to folks,
but it is coming. The bandwill start in a few countries first,
according to Bob Iger, including theUK and the US will deal with
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this in September. It will preventcustomers from sharing the log in details with
people outside of their household. Subscriberswill be charged an additional fee to watch
Disney Plus on multiple devices outside theirhome, just like Netflix. As I
said, it's because of Netflix Netflix'ssuccess, Disney is doing this. Disney
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Plus will track its users' IP addresses, as well as device IDs and account
activity to determine whether viewers are inthe same household or not. In Disney
Plus's UK help center, its statesquote you may not share your subscription outside
of your household, and the definitionof a household is the primary personal residence
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of the account that pays the billsand the devices under that roof. Like
I said the home Wi Fi,only people who live in the primary personal
residence will be able to watch fromthe Disney Plus linked to that address.
Subscribers will be able to watch itoutside of their home, but only for
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a limited amount of time. InDisney's new subscriber agreements to states, quote,
unless otherwise permitted by your service plan, you may not share your subscription
outside of your household. Mark,do you have Disney Plus? I have
a friend's Disney Plus. And Idon't like this totalitarian routine here. No,
I don't like it all After Netflixis a crackdown a Netflix. Their
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profits went up in the first quarterto climb to more than one point to
No. Two point three billion andincrease total subscribers to two hundred and seventy
million. It worked, and itworked like gangbusters. Well, I'm sure
they were struggling. They needed themoney. Well, you know, here
we go. Mark is capitalism.They're in the business of making money,
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not altruism. No, no,nobody could ever mistake this for that,
right, right, right, Sopeople gonna have to make some decisions.
I don't know right now. Ihave a year subscription and I probably won't
renew it. But if I do, it will be with the new bundle.
And I don't know how I'm goingto handle my mother and other folks.
You know, just gonna see you'reon your own, mom. Sorry,
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Well it depends. I don't thinkshe uses it as much as I
know. She doesn't use it asmuch as I do. It's just a
point of I want it available whenevershe wants to use it. Mom's not
a big Mandalorian fan, No,but she would watch the Disney movies like
Soul or the Pixar movies things likethat. She definitely watch those. Okay,
so she would. She has utilityfor it, but she's not using
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it for all the series like youand I are. Twala Wood. Well,
then you won't feel bad about cuttingher off. No, I would
feel bad because I'd like to haveit wherever she wants something or needs something.
She need not ask, It's alreadythere. I pay for most of
her streaming stuff. It's just easier, Yeah, because it's just easier for
me to set up on her device, download the apps, that kind of
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thing, and just go. It'sjust easier. I think it's time to
get a little bit more ruthless withmoms since things are going up in cost.
No, I'll tell you this,and she probably won't like me telling
you this, or telling the world. My mother came from a different time.
In fact, my father was verydifferent. He was he was going
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to handle all the bills. He'sgoing to do everything. In fact,
he gas up all the cars.My mother does not put gas in her
car. I put gas in hercar. She lets me know when she's
low on gas, and I driveover and I take her car and I
fill it up. Does she livefar from you? About ten miles from
me? Could you put gas inmy car? Yeah? If you were
my mother, But you're not.Well, you're not my daddy in any
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literal sense of either. Hear ofthose. No, No, I cannot
ask twallet. He's closer to you, all right, whichever works, that's
fine. No, No, Imean he is literally closer to you right
now, and closer to you asfar as where you live. Also,
i'd like a Disney subscription when Iget cut off on my friend's thing.
That's fine, that's fine. Ican't help you with that either, But
yeah, you're welcome to ass up. Well, anything else that you would
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like that you won't get. It. Hasn't been the most productive conversation we've
ever had, has been. No. We saw us so well, we
were agreeing on everything, and nowwe have nothing in common. Yeah,
thanks for nothing. Okay, movingon, yes, okay, at least
you didn't get a rim shot.That's all the matter. Someone's catching on.
It's Later with mo Kelly. Whenwe come back, we'll check in
with George North Coast to Coast amin just a moment. And also,
(27:18):
do not forget. Before the weekis out, we will be giving away
tickets to Disney's The Little Mermaid atLa Marada Theater. Do not think that
we've forgotten about that. And tomorrowwe'll give away another pair of tickets to
super Freak, the Rick James Story. So much good stuff coming your way.
Just keep on listening. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand
(27:41):
from KFI AM six boarding. Beforewe get out of here, Mark,
Yes, I'm waiting on your apology. Okay, you hurt my feelings for
what exactly, just what you justYou never apologize, So I just want
a blanket apology, Just a blanketapology. It's coming. It's on the
way. Just stand by for that, all right, open one, I'll
keep you fuck all right. Let'stalk about Ticketmaster before we get out of
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here. Ticketmaster's parent company says it'sinvestigating a possible data breach after a group
of hackers claimed to have stolen thepersonal information of five hundred and sixty million
Ticketmaster customers. Five hundred and sixtymillion. It doesn't say how far back
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this data may go, but Iassume if you've purchased tickets in the past
twenty years, your information probably probablynot definitely, but probably was contained in
the five hundred and sixty million.And what do I always say, I
say it just about every month atsome point. The whole idea of privacy
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is an illusion. If you thinkthat you haven't had your data exposed at
some point, you're probably deluding yourself, be it medical information, private information.
It's out there and it may notbe something that you personally chose to
do. It may not be anyfault of your own. But because we
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live in this digital age, andfor the most part, we're forced to
give out our information here and there, it's going to get out there eventually.
In a securities filing, Ticketmaster ownerLive Nation said it identified unauthorized activity
within a third party cloud database environmentcontaining company data. Back on May twentieth,
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the hacking group Shiny Hunters claimed ithad obtained one point three terabytes of
Ticketmaster user data, including names,addresses, phone numbers, as well as
order details and credit card information.The hackers were selling the debt the data
on the dark web for five hundredthousand dollars. Ticketmaster's parent company says it
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is in investigating a possible data breachand they're trying to see where it will
lead. A week later, thehacking group shining Hunters as a fright excuse
me Live Nation said there was noevidence that the data breach had a material
impact on its business operations. Whatabout a material impact on our lives?
They just take their word for it. Another reason to love them, right,
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Well, but I think of itthis way. It's nice to know
that it didn't bother you ticket Masteredanyway. No, no, no,
didn't have a material impact on ouroperations. Well that's fine, But I
don't care whether it impacted you.I care whether it impacted me. Can
you tell me of my data isout there? The only thing they're saying
is no, you know, we'rejust moving ahead, business as usual.
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The company added that it is workingto mitigate risk to its users and has
notified law enforcement. Oh great,so they called the police. What does
that do for me? Well,listen, the important thing is that Ticketmaster
is okay, And and you wouldthink Ticketmaster would be a little bit more
delicate with giving customers more bad newsgiven all the bad press that it's been
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receiving for the past year or so, or at least break it a little
nicer like the old cats on theroof story, you know. According to
the DOJ, Shiny Hunters as marketedstolen data from over sixty companies in the
US and globally since early twenty twenty. They are busy. Quote. The
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victims range from tech companies to aninternational stock trading company, to an apparel
company and a nutrition and fitness company. Millions of customer records were included in
the stolen data. Yeah, andthis cyber attack comes as Ticketmaster faces legal
battles. We handed at that backon May twenty third, the DOJ and
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thirty state and district attorneys general fileda federal lawsuit against Live Nation allegend it
was a monopoly. We talked aboutthat, and if the suit doesn't reshape
Ticketmaster, then probably this data breach. Well, there's nothing positive for Live
Nation or Ticketmaster this point. Thiscompany is not going to survive as it's
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presently constructed if there was a listof the most hated companies in the United
States, where do you think Ticketmasterwould fall on that. I don't know
if everyone understands that Ticketmaster is thedevil. Yeah, yeah, I think
they have gone under the radar,if only because not everyone buys concert tickets,
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but if you have bought a concertticket in the last what, I
don't know, thirty years, Yeah, they're on your radar. They may
be on their radar, but Ithink they've been on people's radar more for
the past two to three years becauseof their dynamic pricing, because people have
been more vocal about their complaints.But that's just more recently. I don't
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know if that's always been the case, but yeah, they are moving up
the lists quickly. Ticketmaster completely separatefrom Live Nation. I'm not really clear
on how Live Nation is the parentcompany for Ticketmasters. Okay, thank you?
So I hate them both, Well, yeah, they're basically one in
the same. Got you know.I don't know if it's Ticketmaster live Nation
a Live Nation Ticketmaster, but they'reinseparable, a pox on their one house.
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Yeah, they are basically Siamese twins. Can I say that anymore?
Yeah? Conjoined twins is so boring. Okay, Siamese is much more interesting.
It's more yucks with Siamese. Allright. I just want to make
sure because my goal is to bepolitically correct at all times. A plus,
(33:37):
did I fall short? No?No, you're doing great. Okay,
it's it's been good to be withyou on your final show. I
can joined whatever they might have beenfrom Siam. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I like those Siamese cats.What's what's wrong with the twins? What's
what's funny? What's funny that evolved? No? Seriously, when you think
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of evil companies, does Ticketmaster evenrise to that level? You know,
I haven't bought a concert ticket inthe longest way. Like the last time
I bought concert tickets, I boughtthem directly from the Hollywood Bowl from their
website, so it didn't go throughTicketmaster and I, and they were very
upfront with the costs, like likeeven after the final tally, it wasn't
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like the tickets were fifty dollars facevalue, and all of a sudden I
get hit with one hundred and fiftydollars bill. No Hollywood Bowl face value
tickets. Perfect. I would notthough I would not be against putting a
pox on the house of Live NationTicketmaster, because I know how much they
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have reamed. Can you say thatFox Fox? Yeah? Oh, my
co pair would buy tickets to liketell Us with or Beyonce or whatever,
take in our daughter to these showsand she's always like, oh my god,
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these fees on the back end whenthey get you. I usually try
to buy directly from the house,not go through a Ticketmaster or a ticket
broker. I'm saying calling someone overthere. I'm not trying to get tickets
online. Just can't do it,can't do it. Tell me, though,
do you not think of Ticketmaster andI guess Live Nation in the same
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way that you think of an insurancecompany, in that they're just parasites who
contribute nothing. Yeah, but it'smore abstract for me, if only because
working in the music industry, therewas a good fifteen years where I paid
for not one concert ticket, notone, so there was no animosity to
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be had. My connection to Ticketmasteris only through news articles. Now.
I don't have any personal animus becauseI haven't been subjected to that. Every
concept that I've been to since Idon't know when has been because of passes
or press showings or or whatever.So as long as they've been fleecing everybody
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else but you, No, no, no, I've talked about it that
no no, no, I said, I talked about it. I have
no problem talking about the stories.I just don't have a first person point
of reference of paying these large feesbecause I never would ever. It's just
what those things were. I justwon't go. I'm not going to pay
four times the face value of theticket or whatever it is because of all
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these fees which are added on togo see a performer. I've seen everyone
I want to see, and anyonethat I do want to see, I
will call in a favor, achit or something. Well, I think
I need to exploit our friendship morethan I have been. But is there
a way to get around those fees, like if you if you actually physically
go to the box office of theplace, or is it just unavoidable?
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Is it fate they still charge youa service fee. There's a service fee,
but you don't pay all the ticketmasterfees. If I'm not mistaken,
if you go to the box office. A part of that is that convenience
fear of whatever it is of purchasingthem online. Yeah, the hell with
them, just download stuff. Imean, can't doubt that's the life.
Yeah, how are you gonna dothat? Never mind, look at the
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time. We will see you tomorrow. We'll be joined on the show by
Stokely, who is the star ofSuper Freak, The Rick James Story.
We will be giving away a pairof tickets, and maybe we'll give away
some Disney The Little Mermaid tickets aswell for Lamarade Theater. All I know
is we're gonna be giving away somethingtomorrow because that's how we do it.
(37:40):
Here on later with Mo Kelly canif. I am six forty. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.Will help you figure it out. It's
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